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Just met someone who in indeed in a relationship and lives across the country, but we are both so intrigued by the other. Thank you for helping explain this ❤️ amazing content
I think your interpretation is very spot on. But additionally, wouldn't you agree that there is a strongly "fated" sense to this aspect? Saturn and the N. Node both are tied to karma, so tied together, the two people may have agreed to have this relationship with a soul mate, and precisely in order to deal with the obstacles. Obstacles are character building if you face them and do your best, even if you can't overcome them. Your thoughts would be most appreciated.
Hi, thank you :) Hmm if you are talking about that concept of "soul contract", I really would not know what to say. I would tend to see South Node contacts as more "karmic" as in people meant to meet in this life. Saturn is linked to karma according to some, but I do not really like to think of it that way. I guess that idea originated from the fact that when Saturn is contacted in a chart, by another person's planets or points, the Saturn person feels "bound" , "responsible" and like they should work for/invest in the other person-which I think tends to be true, but I would not link this to karma necessarily. It can simply be pragmatism. Saturn aspects are actually one of the reason why I encourage people to learn astrology-because I have seen many who get stuck into bad Saturnian relationships for years, even decades, because of that proverbial "bonding" that Saturn creates. Saturn just locks people in, does not necessarily imply a high quality relationship, or even a good lesson learned. And North Node contacts are again not really karmic since the North Node shows what you are just learning about in this lifetime. Or in other words, your spiritual lessons in this life.
@@AstroMartine Spiritual lessons in this life would be the essence of karma, although I don't believe in a mechanistic form of this, but rather lessons chosen to be worked on by the soul in the state between lives, usually worked out with soul group members. If you've never read "Journey of Souls" by Michael Newton, he deals with these ideas in depth and was the pioneer in between-lives hypnotism and reporting.
My ex has his ascendant and saturn conjunct my NN and POF, and trine my own saturn and Pluto. My venus trines his NN. I feel we were definitely fated, I knew as soon as I met him. We were together for a long time and have remained strongly connected even after splitting up. We had a strong sense of duty and connection to one another which ended up being a massive obstacle when we needed to break up and distance our lives, as is often healthy to do when this happens. My experience is, yes, he MOST DEFINITELY had saturn and ascendant based lessons to teach me, and they were pivital lessons I needed to learn. We may have not been meant to remain together but I feel we were certainly meant to find each other.
Awesome video. I've listened to two other astrologer's interpretations of this and one is more in alignment with your views. I know that several of the signs of this aspect passed in relationships that I know about so I think you're right on. I am also quite familiar with Vivian Lee and Lawrence Olivier's stormy relationship. It did get progressively worse. And I think the same happened with Pitt and Jolie. But like you said, no aspect is a deal breaker and the rest of the chart must be accounted. I also think it has a lot to do with how each person is in relationship to their own Saturn and how Saturn is aspected. Thanks, great video.
I have this placement with my ex. My Saturn was conjunct her NN by exact degree. We just broke up a few weeks ago. We met because she was an astrology client of mine. We had one session, and continued to talk ever since and instantly felt a connection to one another. but We met a year ago when she was married and separated from her wife, and I was on a break with my partner. I ended my relationship a couple months after meeting her, and she supposedly initiated her divorce like 6 months later. But throughout the relationship we kept fighting about her marriage and her ex which ultimately led to our last breakup. Her divorce process kept prolonging and I started feeling like it was a sin to be together while she was still married. And our mental health and physical health were both declining. We were very on and off over the last year. And we were also long distance, and lived in different states. I HATE this aspect lol I’m praying maybe things can improve and we can get back together next year after my Saturn Return in February 2022. But we’ll see...
Your Saturn return will inspire you to shed this relationship entirely. It teaches you to let go of the things that don’t work. And if it doesn’t work out now, it won’t later.
I have this natally and had it as a double whammy (in Capricorn) in synastry with my high school sweetheart. He had it natally, too. We certainly faced a lot of obstacles, but it's not true that obstacles "increase" over time. The nature of this aspect by itself is there will always be obstacles in the relationship, but they get easier to deal with over time. It can also show a partner who will help the other build/achieve the things of their North Node purpose. My ex and I were so close breaking through. We had gone to Hell together, and it bonded us like nothing else. I've never loved anyone so much, and probably never will again. That was a once in a lifetime connection. This aspect definitely will depend on how each individual responds to Saturn energy natally. Ultimately my ex was too much of a lying, womanizing piece of shit though, and that's why I left him. I had forgiven him many times for cheating in the past.. I just didn't want to end up with AIDS. It took me a long time to leave him for good, though. The pull is soooooooo strong with this aspect.
Lmao mind blowing I have this aspect along with a bunch of his planets aspecting my 8th house,and yes affair did happen some weird square unrequited love situation and money/distance /lifestyle differences has been a big reason on both our parts for being hesitant. I'm saturn so I do push for stability with him and he's sees it as suffocating i can tell yet deep down I think he finds it reassuring knowing I want to stick around
Thank you for that video. I have a similar constellation with a man. We have never been together, even though we have both been single almost consistently for 11 years. I can only confirm that the problems are increasing. He now lives in a neighboring country, we've been trying to meet since 2013, either it fails because of me or him, or something global comes up, like the pandemic most recently. In addition, his Rahu enters into a conjunction with my Saturn / Pluto conjunction. For me, this aspect embodies "it shouldn't be" unfortunately there is also an extreme bond connected with Pluto through the conjunction.
His Rahu is conjunct my combust Saturn and Mercury (Sun+Saturn+Mer) within 4 degrees orb and His Moon is conjunct my Ketu within 2 degrees orb :) I don't know where I stand and what to expect 😐 As long as he's passionately conquering all the challenges my Saturn is bringing... I guess if the Saturn is combust...a lot of issues get dissolved as the Sun takes over...so there's a work around there and yes it works out with minimum difficulties... Also my Pisces Jupiter is tightly conjunct his Pisces Sun ☺
Jupiter aspecting Rahu is said to neutralize its negative effects, so I would say yes. Jupiter conjunct Rahu also means that positive energy, joy, spiritual growth and wealth increase between the two people over time.
@@AstroMartineWhat if there’s no Jupiter Rahu aspects, but we have Jupiter trine Jupiter, my Jupiter sextiles his Saturn, and his Jupiter trines my Saturn? Would this somehow make the Saturn- Rahu conjunction smoother?
I have this, im rahu he's saturn as well as his mars conjunt his Saturn which exactly conjunct my venus rahu conjunction. His Jupiter sextile all of these conjunctions and my saturn conjunct his ketu. We have many pleasant exact aspects. I saw his photo and had instant attraction. We had intense connection and chemistry. Then all the obstacles are there, age difference, ethnicity difference and the physical distance isn't all that much but feels monumental. It's been on and off a year, more off the past 6 mos. But he keeps coming back even though i say im done. Ive never experienced such an awkward, frustrating situation. He says he doesn't have anyone but i feel he still does in his heart.
How about Saturn conjunct South Node (Ketu) both ways? is it better to have this one than Saturn conjunct north node or is just as difficult with a lot of hardship etc..?
I will make a video on the South Node conjunct Saturn at some point, but short answer is that technically it is better to have than the Saturn-North Node conjunction, at least according to traditional vedic interpretations.
Another famous former couple with this aspect was Jessica Simpson and John Mayer. I think she even said she went back to him around 9 times after repeated break ups. I am battling with an infatuation from a person with our Saturn and Nodes mutually conjunct. It was a destructive experience. Thank you for your knowledge. I would love to see you do a video on Node reversal conjunction and give your thoughts on that.
I actually have been thinking about the differences between composite and synastry for this aspect. To be honest I think it is slightly better in the composite chart because it shows more unity between two people, and an increased sense of purpose within the relationship, but obstacles are likely to appear as well.
Sounds scary tho.. Despite that my intention to find ways to understand it and make it more workable is there. I have a double whammy of this synatry in sag and cap. His moon, saturn with my rahu in sag. His rahu and my saturn in cap aspected by his and my jup+jup exalted in cancer. His south node is conjunct with my jup in cancer as well. His Mars and my venus in taurus. Im gemini moon, mars and south node His sag moon, saturn. My sun in aries.. Mercury retro in pisces. His sun in virgo with venus, mercury in leo. His a libra im an aries. His not spiritual im.overly spiritual
@@AstroMartine we met in a work situation, i went to his workplace for my interntionship, to complete my studies, he was my mentor who guided me with the work, among the others. Im not sure if this will work out, or has a better prospective of future in it.
You probably have the nn-saturn in composite chart. I would say the energy of this aspect is felt strongly. It is up to you to make it work, and also depends on the overall synastry.
Lol, no, I did mention people have free will, but this aspect will show obstacles, that is for sure. So it helps to be aware that you will be in for a bumpy ride together.
@@AstroMartine I know we will, it is already very bumpy. I heard that this is a glue aspect, that it means never really letting go. It doesn't mean no breakups, but just undying emotional attachment.
My saturn is in my 7th house virgo conjunct my boyfriends NN...is there couple ending up a happy ending with this aspect?i hope we can get through these
Hi, as usual, I try not to be fatalistic, and your attitude in the relationship maters most, do not fall prey to fatalism. Even if it ends, there could be a lot to learn/gain from the connection.
can you give me insight on this placement his saturn is in 24°taurus conjuncting my mercury (23°), venus(27°) and also northnode (29°) but he also has jupiter in 2° gemini which conjuncts closely to my northnode obv but it's in different sign so which conjunction is going to affect me more? this conjunction is happening in my mc (taurus/gemini cusp)
I would have to see the full charts because it really depends on everything. Just Saturn conjunct aspects in general shows stability and responsibility/commitment on his part.
Seperative tendencies! Had my south node conjunct Saturn where saturn was his 7th house ruler! This relationship lasted a fee years but ultimately ended v painfully for the saturn person
@@thatnomad1758 maybe it depends on lesson which saturn person and ketu person should learn. I have question: Who more wanted to be together saturn or ketu person?
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Just met someone who in indeed in a relationship and lives across the country, but we are both so intrigued by the other. Thank you for helping explain this ❤️ amazing content
You’re welcome 😊 Hope it works out for you.
I think your interpretation is very spot on. But additionally, wouldn't you agree that there is a strongly "fated" sense to this aspect? Saturn and the N. Node both are tied to karma, so tied together, the two people may have agreed to have this relationship with a soul mate, and precisely in order to deal with the obstacles. Obstacles are character building if you face them and do your best, even if you can't overcome them.
Your thoughts would be most appreciated.
Hi, thank you :) Hmm if you are talking about that concept of "soul contract", I really would not know what to say. I would tend to see South Node contacts as more "karmic" as in people meant to meet in this life. Saturn is linked to karma according to some, but I do not really like to think of it that way. I guess that idea originated from the fact that when Saturn is contacted in a chart, by another person's planets or points, the Saturn person feels "bound" , "responsible" and like they should work for/invest in the other person-which I think tends to be true, but I would not link this to karma necessarily. It can simply be pragmatism. Saturn aspects are actually one of the reason why I encourage people to learn astrology-because I have seen many who get stuck into bad Saturnian relationships for years, even decades, because of that proverbial "bonding" that Saturn creates. Saturn just locks people in, does not necessarily imply a high quality relationship, or even a good lesson learned. And North Node contacts are again not really karmic since the North Node shows what you are just learning about in this lifetime. Or in other words, your spiritual lessons in this life.
@@AstroMartine Spiritual lessons in this life would be the essence of karma, although I don't believe in a mechanistic form of this, but rather lessons chosen to be worked on by the soul in the state between lives, usually worked out with soul group members. If you've never read "Journey of Souls" by Michael Newton, he deals with these ideas in depth and was the pioneer in between-lives hypnotism and reporting.
@@h-l8407 heard of him, but have not read his work. Will look into that.
My ex has his ascendant and saturn conjunct my NN and POF, and trine my own saturn and Pluto. My venus trines his NN. I feel we were definitely fated, I knew as soon as I met him. We were together for a long time and have remained strongly connected even after splitting up. We had a strong sense of duty and connection to one another which ended up being a massive obstacle when we needed to break up and distance our lives, as is often healthy to do when this happens. My experience is, yes, he MOST DEFINITELY had saturn and ascendant based lessons to teach me, and they were pivital lessons I needed to learn. We may have not been meant to remain together but I feel we were certainly meant to find each other.
Awesome video. I've listened to two other astrologer's interpretations of this and one is more in alignment with your views. I know that several of the signs of this aspect passed in relationships that I know about so I think you're right on. I am also quite familiar with Vivian Lee and Lawrence Olivier's stormy relationship. It did get progressively worse. And I think the same happened with Pitt and Jolie. But like you said, no aspect is a deal breaker and the rest of the chart must be accounted. I also think it has a lot to do with how each person is in relationship to their own Saturn and how Saturn is aspected. Thanks, great video.
glad you liked it :)
I have this placement with my ex. My Saturn was conjunct her NN by exact degree. We just broke up a few weeks ago. We met because she was an astrology client of mine. We had one session, and continued to talk ever since and instantly felt a connection to one another. but We met a year ago when she was married and separated from her wife, and I was on a break with my partner. I ended my relationship a couple months after meeting her, and she supposedly initiated her divorce like 6 months later. But throughout the relationship we kept fighting about her marriage and her ex which ultimately led to our last breakup. Her divorce process kept prolonging and I started feeling like it was a sin to be together while she was still married. And our mental health and physical health were both declining. We were very on and off over the last year. And we were also long distance, and lived in different states. I HATE this aspect lol I’m praying maybe things can improve and we can get back together next year after my Saturn Return in February 2022. But we’ll see...
Your Saturn return will inspire you to shed this relationship entirely. It teaches you to let go of the things that don’t work. And if it doesn’t work out now, it won’t later.
What happened??
Please update us on the relationship. Have you try to get her back ? Any success?
Please update!!!
Hope you continue to make more videos, yours are good!
Thanks :)
I have this natally and had it as a double whammy (in Capricorn) in synastry with my high school sweetheart. He had it natally, too. We certainly faced a lot of obstacles, but it's not true that obstacles "increase" over time. The nature of this aspect by itself is there will always be obstacles in the relationship, but they get easier to deal with over time. It can also show a partner who will help the other build/achieve the things of their North Node purpose. My ex and I were so close breaking through. We had gone to Hell together, and it bonded us like nothing else. I've never loved anyone so much, and probably never will again. That was a once in a lifetime connection. This aspect definitely will depend on how each individual responds to Saturn energy natally. Ultimately my ex was too much of a lying, womanizing piece of shit though, and that's why I left him. I had forgiven him many times for cheating in the past.. I just didn't want to end up with AIDS. It took me a long time to leave him for good, though. The pull is soooooooo strong with this aspect.
ouch. Were you the Saturn or the North Node person?
@@AstroMartine I was both. We had this as a double whammy. My Saturn conjunct his NN and his Saturn conjunct my NN.
@@erinmorgan9863 oh, right, missed that part. Hmm ok.
This is sooooo accurate!
I'm glad you found it useful :)
great explanation..love from India
Thank you :)
@@AstroMartine Hare Krishna 🙏🕉️
Lmao mind blowing I have this aspect along with a bunch of his planets aspecting my 8th house,and yes affair did happen some weird square unrequited love situation and money/distance /lifestyle differences has been a big reason on both our parts for being hesitant. I'm saturn so I do push for stability with him and he's sees it as suffocating i can tell yet deep down I think he finds it reassuring knowing I want to stick around
Thank you for sharing that :)
Josephine von Brunsvik and Ludwig van Beethoven had this conjunction. Your view on this conjunction fits to a T!
Nice example
Thank you for that video. I have a similar constellation with a man. We have never been together, even though we have both been single almost consistently for 11 years. I can only confirm that the problems are increasing. He now lives in a neighboring country, we've been trying to meet since 2013, either it fails because of me or him, or something global comes up, like the pandemic most recently. In addition, his Rahu enters into a conjunction with my Saturn / Pluto conjunction. For me, this aspect embodies "it shouldn't be" unfortunately there is also an extreme bond connected with Pluto through the conjunction.
Forgot to add:his Ketu conjuncts also my moon
His Rahu is conjunct my combust Saturn and Mercury (Sun+Saturn+Mer) within 4 degrees orb and His Moon is conjunct my Ketu within 2 degrees orb :)
I don't know where I stand and what to expect 😐
As long as he's passionately conquering all the challenges my Saturn is bringing...
I guess if the Saturn is combust...a lot of issues get dissolved as the Sun takes over...so there's a work around there and yes it works out with minimum difficulties...
Also my Pisces Jupiter is tightly conjunct his Pisces Sun ☺
Thank you for sharing that
Would you do a video on all the aspects for attraction between two charts? If you felt so inclined 😉
Thank you. Do you know what positive aspects could help this Saturn+Rahu scenario? Like a Venus+jupiter or a Saturn+jupiter contact?
Jupiter aspecting Rahu is said to neutralize its negative effects, so I would say yes. Jupiter conjunct Rahu also means that positive energy, joy, spiritual growth and wealth increase between the two people over time.
@@AstroMartineWhat if there’s no Jupiter Rahu aspects, but we have Jupiter trine Jupiter, my Jupiter sextiles his Saturn, and his Jupiter trines my Saturn? Would this somehow make the Saturn- Rahu conjunction smoother?
Would Rahu-Venus help?
I have this, im rahu he's saturn as well as his mars conjunt his Saturn which exactly conjunct my venus rahu conjunction. His Jupiter sextile all of these conjunctions and my saturn conjunct his ketu. We have many pleasant exact aspects. I saw his photo and had instant attraction. We had intense connection and chemistry. Then all the obstacles are there, age difference, ethnicity difference and the physical distance isn't all that much but feels monumental. It's been on and off a year, more off the past 6 mos. But he keeps coming back even though i say im done. Ive never experienced such an awkward, frustrating situation. He says he doesn't have anyone but i feel he still does in his heart.
I've met someone with Saturn conjunct North Node on both sides. I am super curious about it. I don't want to loose another soulmate
You still with them?
@@nin5739 i checked synastry wrong xd it was too wide orb 🤣 not conjunct at all. I had to learn more about astrology first.
@@joannapaw4040 even if it’s wide it’s felt. Probably not a strong but it’s still felt I think
@@nin5739 but I felt nothing 😄
What’s your email? How does someone get a reading?
Hi, I wrote it in the video description, it's caput.draconys@outlook.com
This is sooooo true
Thank you :)
How about Saturn conjunct South Node (Ketu) both ways? is it better to have this one than Saturn conjunct north node or is just as difficult with a lot of hardship etc..?
I will make a video on the South Node conjunct Saturn at some point, but short answer is that technically it is better to have than the Saturn-North Node conjunction, at least according to traditional vedic interpretations.
Sounds like a lilith themed relationship when you mention lady and cooper
Not sure how you mean.
Another famous former couple with this aspect was Jessica Simpson and John Mayer. I think she even said she went back to him around 9 times after repeated break ups. I am battling with an infatuation from a person with our Saturn and Nodes mutually conjunct. It was a destructive experience. Thank you for your knowledge. I would love to see you do a video on Node reversal conjunction and give your thoughts on that.
Thank you, I'm glad you liked it. By node reversal do you mean one person's North Node conjunct the other's South Node?
@@AstroMartine No problem and yes! That is exactly what I mean.
What about this aspect in a composite chart in the 7th house? Do you think it will be the same result? They don’t have it in their synastry
I actually have been thinking about the differences between composite and synastry for this aspect. To be honest I think it is slightly better in the composite chart because it shows more unity between two people, and an increased sense of purpose within the relationship, but obstacles are likely to appear as well.
So basically we’re not meant to be together w/ this aspect 😢
well no, but it does bring challenges and you should be aware of that.
Sounds scary tho.. Despite that my intention to find ways to understand it and make it more workable is there.
I have a double whammy of this synatry in sag and cap.
His moon, saturn with my rahu in sag. His rahu and my saturn in cap aspected by his and my jup+jup exalted in cancer. His south node is conjunct with my jup in cancer as well.
His Mars and my venus in taurus.
Im gemini moon, mars and south node
His sag moon, saturn.
My sun in aries.. Mercury retro in pisces.
His sun in virgo with venus, mercury in leo.
His a libra im an aries. His not spiritual im.overly spiritual
south node conjunct your jupiter could mean you were his guru in a past life. Or there was some student-teacher relationship between you.
@@AstroMartine we met in a work situation, i went to his workplace for my interntionship, to complete my studies, he was my mentor who guided me with the work, among the others.
Im not sure if this will work out, or has a better prospective of future in it.
My Saturn conjuct his rahu and my rahu conjuct his sun, can this work ??
it is hard to say from just a couple of aspects.
What if they have Venus conjunct Saturn natal? Does that make this aspect less? We have Saturn conjunct/trine NN double whammy
Hi, I suggest you watch my video on "Rahu in relationships", it will give you more insight into NN connections.
Hello, in the synastry chart, my NN conjunct his saturn in capricorn and his NN conjunt my saturn in aquarius,.. what do you think?
You probably have the nn-saturn in composite chart. I would say the energy of this aspect is felt strongly. It is up to you to make it work, and also depends on the overall synastry.
Would this work for composite charts as well?
Hi, it's a bit different for composite
@@AstroMartineis it doomed aspect in composite 🤔
Are you basically saying it's doomed before it even started and it just can never work...?
Lol, no, I did mention people have free will, but this aspect will show obstacles, that is for sure. So it helps to be aware that you will be in for a bumpy ride together.
@@AstroMartine I know we will, it is already very bumpy. I heard that this is a glue aspect, that it means never really letting go. It doesn't mean no breakups, but just undying emotional attachment.
@@missk8715 yes, it tends to be-any Saturn aspects are like a glue, particularly the conjunction.
@@AstroMartinewhat if its happening in a good sign and house. Like saturn conjunct North Node in 11th house in Taurus ♉️
Can age gap be an obstacle too?
if it's significant, I would say yes
How would this be affected if Venus is Conjunct Saturn of one persons, Conjunct Rahu/north node of another's?
you mean Venus of person A conjunct Rahu-Saturn conjunction in person B's chart?
@@AstroMartine females rahu Conjunct Saturn / Venus of Male ( Venus carriers higher degree)
Thank you for your response!
what if u have this in the composite in 7 house
What if one's rahu is conjuct my moon and saturn?
it depends on the full synastry interactions
My Rahu+ his venus, my saturn to his sun+rahu, my Mars to his Jupiter conjuct. Could u briefly interpret? 🙏🌷🌷
well, just based on those aspects, it is predominantly positive.
My saturn is in my 7th house virgo conjunct my boyfriends NN...is there couple ending up a happy ending with this aspect?i hope we can get through these
Hi, as usual, I try not to be fatalistic, and your attitude in the relationship maters most, do not fall prey to fatalism. Even if it ends, there could be a lot to learn/gain from the connection.
can you give me insight on this placement
his saturn is in 24°taurus conjuncting my mercury (23°), venus(27°) and also northnode (29°) but he also has jupiter in 2° gemini which conjuncts closely to my northnode obv but it's in different sign so which conjunction is going to affect me more? this conjunction is happening in my mc (taurus/gemini cusp)
I would have to see the full charts because it really depends on everything. Just Saturn conjunct aspects in general shows stability and responsibility/commitment on his part.
@@AstroMartine yeah you're right but im confused about the jupiter part
What about ketu conjunct Saturn? Similar?
Hi, I did a separate video on Saturn-Ketu
Seperative tendencies! Had my south node conjunct Saturn where saturn was his 7th house ruler! This relationship lasted a fee years but ultimately ended v painfully for the saturn person
@@thatnomad1758 maybe it depends on lesson which saturn person and ketu person should learn. I have question: Who more wanted to be together saturn or ketu person?