You have guts young lady, respect to you for being straight up. When we see the white neck collar on a person we should be able to think that person could be trusted not to take advantage of the vulnerable . A pal a little while back now had counseling sessions & advised me to try the service with this priest guy when I was in my late teens. Keen to deal with my well being although still a bit green I went for a session. Soon after arriving though, just as I started to open up a little more , he began touching my knee & then knelt on the floor in front of my chair looking into my eyes urging me to 'let it all out' , only he had a frantic kind of look in his eyes like he was getting excited as he fondled and started up my leg! how bizarre I never realized knee frottage was part of church counseling therapy haha I remember coming away feeling angry at myself for trusting this person i'd only just met!
I tried suicide twice I’m bipolar and I have anxiety panic attacks and I’ve been kicked out literally out of church they said I was to broken it’s weird as an atheist I was people like that make me gross what the heck
My mom got mad at me and said that I’m not a real Christian because I’m struggling with my mental health and I have to stop being weak that broke me heart.. thanks for this video
Everything she said about you is totally false. If anything, you are a real Christian and satan is attacking you because of your faith in God. satan sometimes uses the people closest to us to get to us. Stay strong.
According to the following promises that Jesus left with the church, how can Christians have any issues? How can one reconcile the problems that are suffered to the heavenly solutions that are given? Are these promises really genuine? John 15:7 7 If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you. Matthew 7:7-8 7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you: 8 For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened. Matthew 18:19-20 19 Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven. 20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them. John 14:12-14 12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father. 13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it. Mark 16:17-18 17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; 18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover. Mark 11:22-24 22 And Jesus answering saith unto them, Have faith in God. 23 For verily I say unto you, That whosoever shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; and shall not doubt in his heart, but shall believe that those things which he saith shall come to pass; he shall have whatsoever he saith. 24 Therefore I say unto you, What things soever ye desire, when ye pray, believe that ye receive them, and ye shall have them. James 5:14-15 14 Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord: 15 And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.
sometimes you need christians friends filled with the power of the holy ghost of Christ and with gifts to shatter the darkness that strongholds most people in the world to not to say a vast majority held in a demonic power and only GOD's power can break it with his strength
I'm a Christian and a veteran. I've been dealing with crippling panic disorder for a long time. Both my side of the family and my wife's are devout Christians. They don't believe Christians should have mental illness. I have a hard time keeping jobs because of it. I talk to the VA counselors and my wife (she is an absolute Godsend). I'm doing my best. I'm having an episode as I'm typing this. Thank you so much
🙏im a vet too and a christian living with crippling anxiety, panick attacks and cant leave my house. the va has me on meds but sometimes it aint enough. im suspecting demonic attacks cause im in a prayer team. keep the faith brother and keep praying, the lord knows our trouble. video bible and worship songs help me alot. god bless you brother.
Best wishes fellow veterans. Fortunately my service didn't cause many problems (I was depressive before I went in). We were in harm's way but the harm never quite came to me directly, so I emerged mostly unscathed. I feel divided about the VA. They do what they can, but have their limitations .
Try the Mediterranean diet as an anti anxiety diet and also look into carnivore keto or whole food vegan vegetarian according to your blood type. Probiotics are anxieties killer as well
@@Luke-EmmanuelAccording to the following promises that Jesus left with the church, how can Christians have any issues? How can one reconcile the problems that are suffered to the heavenly solutions that are given? Are these promises really genuine? John 15:7 7 If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you. Matthew 7:7-8 7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you: 8 For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened. Matthew 18:19-20 19 Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven. 20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them. John 14:12-14 12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father. 13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it. Mark 16:17-18 17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; 18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover. Mark 11:22-24 22 And Jesus answering saith unto them, Have faith in God. 23 For verily I say unto you, That whosoever shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; and shall not doubt in his heart, but shall believe that those things which he saith shall come to pass; he shall have whatsoever he saith. 24 Therefore I say unto you, What things soever ye desire, when ye pray, believe that ye receive them, and ye shall have them. James 5:14-15 14 Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord: 15 And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.
I also see where some Christians will claim you aren't even saved or a "real" Christian if you have anxiety. Which DOESN'T help at all especially if you already are questioning your faith .
Chapter 21 16 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, 17 Speak unto Aaron, saying, Whosoever he be of thy seed in their generations that hath any blemish, let him not approach to offer the bread of his God. 18 For whatsoever man he be that hath a blemish, he shall not approach: a blind man, or a lame, or he that hath a flat nose, or any thing superfluous, 19 Or a man that is brokenfooted, or brokenhanded, 20 Or crookbackt, or a dwarf, or that hath a blemish in his eye, or be scurvy, or scabbed, or hath his stones broken; 21 No man that hath a blemish of the seed of Aaron the priest shall come nigh to offer the offerings of the LORD made by fire: he hath a blemish; he shall not come nigh to offer the bread of his God. Doesn't sound like a loving, accepting god to me. Doesn't sound like someone I would like to hang out with.
@@jameswest8280 You're obviously not seeing the context or purposely hoping someone doesn't see the context and make it relatable to them. This is talking about the High Priests who symbolically represent Jesus Christ and who offer the sacrifices of sins for the people. Therefore, God saw the importance of keeping the High Priest pure and without blemish because he was a foreshadow of Christ who was to come. I can already tell you only pick and choose versus and don't understand what they actually mean. You're the type of person who calls people ignorant, but you yourself are ignorant in not knowing any facts on the matter. You're even worse than ignorant actually. You're purposefully lazy and you love to try and lead people away from what they believe because you yourself can't fathom of something bigger than you existing. You don't want to admit you're small and insignificant. You want to be your own God and do whatever you feel like doing without consequences. You don't want a parent figure probably because you grew up with terrible parents. I feel sorry for you but I also don't. You had excuses when you were young, but now that you're an adult, there is no excuse to still act like a child. Grow up and don't talk about things you don't know about.
You can be saved, but you are probably in the place of disobedience and that makes you stressed out & anxious. Just sit down before the Lord quietly ask him what needs to go from your life. Friends, romanti relationship, too demanding a job ?
That statement is disgusting. The bible says be anxious for nothing cuz God knew as Christians we would face anxiety. Anxiety has nothing to do with salvation. I Will openly rebuke Christians who say that! It is such a stumbling block
All those lines about faith. Heard them all...Probably one of the reasons I stopped going to church. People would tell me just to pray about it. And then it didn't work. I would just be like. "Maybe I did something to make God very angry". But then I learned the being Christian is not about being crazy religious. But to have a relationship with Jesus. Most people end up using God's name to state their opinion, and that's what hurts people. But awesome video. As always.
Sorry but I'm curious so I have to ask. What is a "relationship with Jesus"? Does he talk back to you in your mind or is Jesus somehow a metaphor for something else?
Christopher Hendricks Faith is believing in that which we cannot see. God answers through his word(bible). Honestly I won't lie and say he speaks to me, literally. Christianity is journey I'm taking cause I believe there is a God out there. I'm basically a social outcast, so I won't say I grew up in a church or anything cause I always get very anxious in crowded places and my bad experiences with "church" people is what withdrew me from that setting. I respect a person's choice and won't force them into anything. 1 I've had so many fucked up things happen to me, I'm sure I would've been dead if it wasn't for some external force. 2 I don't have many people to talk to, so I usually spend most of my time in thought. 3 I'm hoping there is something in all this suffering and me not committing suicide is one cause I believe God brought me here for a reason. Two There is only one person on this earth keeping me here and that's my mother, rest of the people I know lost patience with me and just left. So that's all I have to cling onto. That's why I won't go around parading about being a "Christian" cause we all have our person relationships with God. I'm just trying to find solace in all this darkness. So, hey man it's just something personal. I'm sure you have things that also keep you going. Trust me suffering from depression in an African community sucks. People either think you're cursed or possessed by demons or lack faith. I've been fighting this for 10 years and 80% of those battles were alone. I'm sure you can get the picture. I don't have much left, no support to pick me up when I fall. I had to learn to endure this all on my own.
Ray Amukwaya sounds like to me ur mother is ur savior and not Jesus or god, if that offends u I'm dearly sorry. From what you said it does seem that there is some external force that has kept u alive, ik from my experience with depression and the one case of almost attempting suicide my family was the reason y I couldn't do it, also I wish I knew u in real life to give u some support like ur mother does
Azc Lal no offense taken...Get what you mean...But hey, this channel is, where I meet most of y'all. So its not a complete loss :) . Respect your opinion.
Ray Amukwaya you stopped going to church because they made rules that no one can handle and cope but Jesus Christ dont give those rules he wants you free from burden and yoke..men only deforms the gosplel our Lord guide us to the truth
The amount of times I’ve been shamed for sharing about my anxiety disorder is upsetting. No one ever talks about it either. I just want to feel validated.
You are validated honey! God specifically loves spending more time with the mentally ill , especially if you want to be close with him! Don’t be ashamed to also seek art or threapy to also help along with faith as your main tool for you’re mental health you’re not alone and I’m on medication yet I know God isn’t mad at me for “not trusting that he’ll cure me” I know he will and are giving me these things IN ORDER to help me and others. Your gonna be on the right track
As a Christian that has struggled with mental illness and as someone passionate about merging the church and mental health help, thank you guys for making this video! Instead of being a accusatory or negative space the church should be a place for the hurting. God is so big and He can and does use all resources for healing, providence, and chain breaking.
I could not agree more..the chuch should be a space for the hurting, not one that damages them more. God is huge...in my opinion, if we beleive in a God who is as big as most Christian profess, why do we put him in such a tiny box when it comes to mental health? The resources are extensive, and I believe he walks with us as we find and utilize those resources and find help.
Trauma Talk when the christians has more time and its mature enough that person must have intimacy and a better personal relationship with the lord the church wont sufice..the meeting with the lord must be in our homes
James West I feel like the “church” doesn’t represent Jesus at all...so I would say the jail where he could connect with and help people who need it and are real.
Same with my Church. They do a lot for the community and homeless people, as well. They’re very kind people and I’m really thankful to have found a Church like that. I’m sorry for anyone who has had people be unkind to them in Church.
You are very lucky! Many people are fed abhorrent lines about it being their fault in one way or another, and it is not! You deserve health and wellbeing just like the rest of us and there is no shame in having a mental disorder. All the best to you!
Wimsem - Tekenen & Knutselen so why not give up the faith thing alltogether .don't you think that's what you need to do to get better? sure sounds like it to me.
Severe OCD here, feels like I have alarm bells going off 24/7. Depression, guilt, anger at God for allowing me to continue to suffer so greatly. Tiny amounts of Cannabis are the only thing that give me relief. Unfortunately, "the Church" believes all the government propaganda and does not acknowledge the uses of Cannabis or mental health disorders. I 100% believe OCD is a physical disorder, very similar to Tourettes or epilepsy and co-occurs with some of the most damning depression ever known to man. My entire life has been miserable, I have struggled with repeated relapses into alcoholism and any other vices that bring temporary relief from the symptoms I have tried so hard to hide. I wouldn't wish this on my worst enemy. I sincerely hope and pray I'm counted worthy to go in the rapture and escape this hellish existence that is my mind.
Jesus was not happy with the things that were going on inside of the church, the older I get the more I am starting to see that little has changed, the Pharisees and the Saducees are still running the church businesses, they still have secular beliefs, this confuses so many of us who grew up in these types of church families.
Ok you are right. But about Jesus: He had no problem with slavery and he told his followers to let others bully them. This is one reason my faith is broken.
@@jaxthewolf4572 First of all I'm not an athiest. What your asking is easily found on the internet. But Jesus told slaves to obey their master and be content with their position.
@@blackandgoldstorytelling3552yes! I was always dressed in Sunday best with polished dress shoes. Later on I understood that boasting in yourself is wrong and I felt like by dressing up was almost a contest. If I was dressed up and someone had a football team shirt on I felt superior. I realized and later was old enough to see characteristics in my mom I didn't agree with and now just wear a nice dress Tshirts (not button up exept for Religious holidays) and cargo shorts that don't have holes in them. I feel way less high and mighty and can see who I want to associate with by how they retreat me dressed as that.
My severe depression was due to gut bacteria. It was cured by antibiotics meant for a sinus infection. I was told it was a spiritual attack but I knew it was not.
I really relate to this. I'm glad this is brought up. I grew up Christian but also with a lot of physical and emotional abuse from my dad for as long as I could remember. I never understood why I wanted to committ suicide even as young as 10 years old. That thought was always there and it only got worse when I graduated high school, and I could NOT imagine myself living the rest of my life like this, wanting to constantly die and waking up every single day with so much misery, wondering why God hasn't killed me yet. I read a lot about Christianity and depression, and even read blogs about how there are Christians living with deep depression but cope every single day, taking the joy of the Lord with them..and honestly, that sh** made no sense to me.. I started questioning God's nature. I thought, So it's God's will that I am depressed? God literally wants me to be this miserable all my life?" I prayed countless times to God to just help me be normal for once in my life...and it didn't happen... but once it got so bad and I start doing self harm to cope, it was only then I was taken to a counselor, who happened to be Christian, and she really changed my life.. Speaking with her helped me realize a lot about my mental patterns, the root of where all these fears and suicidal thoughts were coming from and we would end with a prayer. Later she moved and we had to part ways, but after that I continued to seek therapy. I had a meeting with psychiatrist once and I was crying in her office, telling her how I truly feel every day. she never forced me. She said, give antidepressant a try, and if you want to stop, it's ok... and wow. after a week in that, i have NEVER FELT SO NORMAL in my life. I stopped praying to God in tears every single day, hoping that a car would run me over and kill me. I stopped praying to God to kill me before i reach 25.. depression no longer clouded my judgement and everything I saw.. I started seeing so much beauty in the small things, i started thanking God much more, noticing the beauties in His creation.. I was able to get back into school again and I no longer slept to escape that miserable feeling.. it's been two years since and I really glad I took that SSRI.. I moved forward so much in life and through these years, my relationship with God has flourished.. Sure, medication isn't a cure all but I learned that sometimes depression and these mental illness isn't purely spiritual. Some people really have this chemical imbalance, like for my case, I have grown up in such chaotic, hurtful, environment for so long as a child that my brain has put this "sad mode" in default.. My relationship with God now, compared to how I was before medication is extremely different. It's so much better now..
I'm keeping strong Scott. Although been having terrible anxiety attacks, I can't even concentrate to study for my exams. Sometimes I can't even get out of bed. But I'm trying my best. It would suck to fail though. As graduating is one of my goals I set.
I have been told that it’s a lack of faith to be bipolar and if I’m depressed it’s just because I’m not living in my calling and nowadays I just kinda hate being around other Christians
John 3:16 New International Version 16 For God so loved(A) the world that he gave(B) his one and only Son,(C) that whoever believes(D) in him shall not perish but have eternal life.(E) 🙏
"God is bigger than that" love it! I know that talking about faith and religion is very delicate because all the different perspectives about the topic, so, I'm not going to jump in those unruly waters giving my personal opinion 😅😅😅 but with all respect, that frase is beautiful and I'm going to keep it for myself: "God is bigger than that." 💖🙏
I was a hardcore IFB and got shunned after having a nervous breakdown and being suicidal at that time. They even had me convinced I was demonic for being depressed and wasn't a true Christian, resulting in doubting my salvation and making multiple professions of faith to get reassurance.
@@mshill2406 Independent Fundamental Baptist churches. To be fair though, not all IFBs are like that. Some are non-cultic. Just beware of the Hyles branch of IFB.
Absolutely. And the great thing about being raised in most IFB churches…your parents were just as codependent or narcissistic as the church leadership. When I hear people ask how Trump won the evangelical vote…my hand is the first one up. 🤣
I am a Vedic practioner and respect every religion and knows that JESUS MOHAMMED OR ANY DEVOTEES OF GOD LOVES EVERYONE ALWAYS 🙏 I feel very sad seeing RELIGIOUS TRAUMA SYNDROME SUFFERERS because I was also USED TO SUFFER this to the extent I had to give physical pain to distract myself FROM THIS BY cutting my hand with knives and burn my thumb in geyser hot water . Thus , I COMPLETLY REALISE THE PAIN OF RTS SUFFERERS AND COMPLEXITIES OF RTS .😣🙏 AND I ALSO pray for every RTS sufferers always and in my fasting also . 😣🙏🙏🙏 I pray everyone get SYMPATHETIC AND TRULEY CARING SPIRIRTUAL ASSOCIATION. 😣🙏🙏🙏
I recently got baptised and since then I’ve felt this huge pressure to ignore my mental illness and be closer to god... I think part of me thought getting baptised would miraculously take all of that away but that’s not how it works clearly... I’m starting to realise that my mental illness is part of me and that like my faith I have to work on it... it’s hard though because whenever I try to reach out to someone it’s just a case of read the bible more but my faith is so strong atm and I know now that that’s not necessarily the solution... I shouldn’t be to blame and I’m realising that💛
I am in the space of being a Christian with strong faith and learning the Bible for myself. Im not baptized, i will be one day but i have alot of healing to do first ( i was almost drowned by an adult who was paid to teach me to swim). I have experienced alot of social isolation from the church i used to go to before being diagnosed with bipolar spectrum disorder (manic depression) as well as from family and friends. Their reactions ranged from treating me like id caught a horrific disease that could be passed on, to some saying that I was trying to get out of working, to others who prayed over me only to then avoid me because I wasnt healed straight away. I found out who were the people who really cared because they refuse to walk away, refuse to allow me to stay sad. I pray that everyone has a couple of people in their life who do everything to help. Sending Blessings, Dot
As a Christian, suffering from bipolar disorder. What amaze me, I would like to see the church telling people suffering from cancer or any other severe illness, its all about your faith.
Thank you for addressing this!!!! I dealt with that alone (Catholic Church) and it was awful... My parents told me that all the time: “Maybe you are just far from God” or “Go talk to a priest” or even “God is all the medicine you need” 😬 So besides all the mental health struggling I felt guilty or like I was away from my faith and God... I couldn’t hear or feel Him in my soul but at the same time I know that my faith is the only thing that kept me from attempting suicide!!! 🙏🏼 God DOES listen. 💙✨ we just need to speak up & look for the tools He provides through other humans & science.
I'm so sorry for all of those same lines that you heard, seriously....that "God is all the medicine you need one" really gets me, I heard that one too, and it just astounds me that people really still believe that. You weren't far away from God - and I honestly do believe He does listen. But in that, I believe he has given us soooo many tools to use to deal with mental illness, and it is *not* a lack of faith to look to those. God walks with us when we are hurting, not away from us.
Trauma Talk Thank you so much for sharing and for your inspiring words!!! 💜✨...Sadly there’s more people who go through things like this, but thank God we’re not alone in this journey 💙✨ #StayStrong
Yes. I told my father about my emotional instability(like not normal mood swings and reactions),anxiety and panic attacks(I am a teen) and ue told me”Pray more”
I think that a lot of christians are codependent on their religion, especially the bible. I used to say, "think outside the box," and now I say, "think outside the bible." I grew up in this confined belief system, where my family members were the main members of the church I was eventually baptized in. People would speak in tongues, prophecy, and give testimonials, in addition to preaching. Only men could speak the 'word of God.' Singing was my favorite part, even though the songs were often times filled with constant sorrow. We'd focus so much on suffering. I became depressed and suicidal at age 15. I always had to go to church. After I left that mess, at age 18, I began to realize how dysfunctional it all had been. When I was told that I was compatible with a male cousin of mine who was almost 10 years older than me, I was disturbed. My grandparents are distant cousins who had married within the church. Often times, this church didn't believe in medical intervention. My aunt and uncle lost their daughter (in her early 20s) because her daughter gave birth in their home and died of gangrene poisoning while in labor. She also lost her baby. They didn't believe in doctors or hospitals or clinics. To this day, my cousin (her sister) still struggles to understand why her sister was 'taken.' It's absurd. (Then, too, if you're not baptized in a christian church that goes by a different name, they often want you to get baptized in their church's name. I've had this experience countless times.) I left that crazy church when I was 18 and began uncovering reality. Ever since, I've looked at so many things in a completely different way. People used to tell me to pray more. I'd get down on my knees and pray so hard I'd be crying like you wouldn't believe. The fear and grief and guilt had become a part of my internal messaging and I became susceptible to controlling people. I was a people-pleaser, unable to think/act for myself. I was a real mess. It has taken so much therapy for me to get to where I am, now. I steer clear from Christianity, now, because it has traumatized me so severely. I have PTSD from it. I've tried going to other christian practices and even the better ones have triggered me. I have, honestly, come to realize that religion in itself is a problem. I prefer being a spiritual person who is not bound to any form of practice. Getting sucked in and feeling the pressure to conform is what has really messed me up, as an individual.
This. is worth. to share. I struggle a lot about mental health that I even made an open letter on my blog about it. I was really hurt by the church to the point that I don't attend services, bible studies, or small groups anymore. I faced a lot of discrimination as well. Everything that was stated in this video is just on point. It also all happened to me. I questioned God a lot. But, indeed what adventure it was for Jesus and I. I have learned to just trust and rely in Him and really not base my faith on these people. I also still have to remember that these people are not perfect and that awareness of Mental Health should be raised especially at church. Thanks for this video. God bless you!
Hey I found your channel a while ago and I couldn't be happier. I've had depression for many years but I never did anything to somehow help me deal with it. I've been so scared to go to talk to someone cause I've always thought they can't really help me. But today I booked a time to go see someone to talk to and that's thanks to you and your videos. ❤
This is gooooood!!!!!!! I hit rock Bottom depression in 2018 and struggled to take an antidepressant because I was told it was "not godly." Well, thank God I am now at a Church where my Pastor doesnt over spiritualize everything and told me to take medicine as prescribed by my doctor. I combined medical interventions with spiritual and it is the best thing that worked. I also did deliverance and inner healing at my Church and I did have some demonic opression but that was a very small fraction of what I was dealing with. Alot of it was chemical And hormonal ! As women if our hormones and menstrual cycles are off it can cause depression. This is soooooo needed in our Faith community. Keep doing God's work!
Thank you for this... such a beautiful video❤️ hurts my heart that mental illness is still so misunderstood. Depression does not correlate to lack of faith, it’s just part of the journey! Your testimony astounds me
Jessica, thank you so much for your incredibly kind and uplifting words! And I agree so much - it hurts my heart how mental illness is understood in certain communities...I think tiny steps forward are being made, but they're slow. Thank you again!
Trauma Talk aww most definitely!! You’re so kind! Yes my church is super accommodating and understanding of mental illness (thank goodness!) but there are definitely those old timers who need to recognize there’s more to the world🤷♀️ all the best!!
For me, having been diagnosed with schizophrenia two years ago.......I found out that, I needed both the spiritual and the medical attention. I once got prayed for and the symptoms stopped at one point, and at another, it only got worse....so I'd say do both, get prayers and medical attention. Also that most people dont understand mental diseases.....and can be easily treated just as spiritual attacks.....like I once did.....later discovered I just needed to see the right doctor who could treat me.
I needed to here this. Everyone in my life has always told me mental health is a scam or a weakness or a testament to my faith not being real or not being strong enough. I just want the people in my life to understand that even if I get better even if I my depression and anxiety and stuff like that gets better than it will always be a battle I have to face and fight against. I wish they could see it the way I do
@@neriahjohnson7875 Okay, that's great to hear and I'm really glad to hear that. Indeed mental health is important and mental health challenges are real even for a Christian. Please if you feel the need to talk and pray together, I can give you my social media handle and we can be doing so. May God continue strengthening and comforting you ❤️🤗.
Guys, as a parent who got saved in the 80s and raised kids through the all the years as a Christian, please understand that we did the best we could. Remember, we come from a totally different generation where we were like you... stepping out trying to do things differently, especially in the faith. But you are right... God’s Word is always the place to go. He designs us to need each other too, be it what ever tools we need. No one is perfect. So I just want to remind your generation that we parents are just people who have done the best we could do with what we had at the time. I’m grateful for anyone that has contributed to faith in my life. I am praying for your generation and mine. God bless you all. Oh! And I saw a video today from a young preacher and depression. Look for Ben Courson. Awesome!
This isn’t so much a religious issue than an education issue. My family’s rather secular, but my mother would say, “You’re doing it to yourself, you need to make yourself stop” or jumping to extremes that any medication is going to kill you, etc. It’s the lack of education + the taboo of being medicated.
Thankyou so much for this video. I dont know how i missed this video but i needed to hear it, saving this in a playlist i listen to when i am lost and sad. Scott You are a blessing to me, your videos have been part of my journey of healing and rebuilding my life. I hope you will continue to post videos for as long as possible. Sending you a tiny bit of peace, joy and love as well as fun and blessings from my heart to yours, Dot
God delivered me from heavy mood swings, suicidal thoughts, deep depression, OCD. And my FAITH wasn't strong enough.....I was not in the word and these were familiar spirits that my family struggles with. He delivered me from something I didn't even know I could be delivered from. I tell you what, when I got on my knees crying I was DESPERATE and there was no doubt. It was do or die. Just putting it out there...Be careful not to lean on worldly knowledge. Lean on God. He will direct you and guide your path. I am SO GLAD I didn't listen to what the doctor's said I was. It's three years later and God told me who I really am in him.
Ok, riddle me this. Why is it that when I was at the lowest point of my life, depressed and constant suicidal thoughts, panic attacks weekly, a grossly homophobic family who I had to walk on eggshells around because of me being bisexual, and undiagnosed ADHD fucking me up daily, I didn’t have any sort of help when I got on my knees and prayed? I got better because I went to therapy and went to a doctor and get any mental disorder diagnosed. Was my suffering just not enough for god? If he is there to pick people up in their darkest hour, why is it that I didn’t get that and you did? Maybe your god is not as loving as you think. Or maybe god is wishful thinking by millions of humans throughout history, maybe he was imagined because humanity wanted an all-powerful guardian who would swoop down and rescue us. But he certainly doesn’t rescue everyone. So perhaps he is nothing but imagination in the minds of desperate humans.
@@elliefuller3667 I cried out to God and I meant it. These are great questions- you should ask God about them. There's no way someone like me could have an answer for you- if that's what you truly seek...
@@LizaLavolta You say "in the way" as if healing is something gifted to you if you do the right thing and work for it. That's ridiculous. A miracle is a miracle and doesn't come with conditions.
Many of our Bible heroes struggled with mental or emotional issues . I really believe that if we could truly believe who we are in Christ much healing would come, but the first order of business is to surrender to God, the second is to forgive, great video
Spot On... in my profession I have had the unfortunate experience of witnessing women who suffered withPost Partum Depression, and the families response being one of Praying more, or stating that mom was under demonic attack, some of these sadly came from the clergy some from “professionals”. Many churches have fallen into this heresy. Many lives have been lost, keep speaking about this. Too few have the courage to do so.
Hello there, my view can be perceived as quite controversial, but I am one of those that believe that ALL of the mental issues are spiritual issues in disguise. I have been recently diagnosed ADHD and it has been such a tremendous relief. All of sudden, everything makes perfect sense. Having intense and overwhelming emotions is very big part of ADHDers. As you can imagine, being emotionally unstable is looked down upon in the world BUT so in the church. I have been told by some Christians that I rely too much on my feelings and emotions and that faith is above how I feel. However, people with mental illness don't get to chose how they feel on the particular day. The Christian that is emotionally healthy might press forward on the day that he feels '' down " and than claim I will NOT feel this way in Jesus name and then claim the victory in that area. But this is NOT the case for a Christian that suffers of a diagnosed condition. My emotions can be all over the place one day and then I am perfectly fine next. I have been asking the Lord to remove all the symptoms of ADHD along with frequent mood swings and emotion disregulation and He hasn't so far. I have repented of every single sin there was, unforgiveness, you name it. I will be going medication road and will be starting the meds next week for the first time. I still have faith that the Lord can heal completely if it is HIS will, but in a meantime I need meds to function normally just like other people. The bottom line is, being a Christian and suffering a mental illness can be a lonely journey and I have a first hand experience. If you need to go medication road to lead a fairly normal life and / or improve the quality of your life, then you should go for it. However, I am not solely relying on medications. My prayer to the Lord is, Father, I don't understand why I need to take meds when you can heal instantly, but I will be trusting you regardless. I ask that you cause the medications to work in my body they should and that no side effects will take place. Amen.
It says in the bible some demons dont come out that easy only with fasting and constant prayer . Honestly im one of those people to that think mental illness has something to do with demons and the spirit world. Alot of people might not know but fasting for the Lord is good and it liberates you from alot of temptations, sickness and other things ! When u fast start at 6 in the morning and u can do it for how much long u like until 3 until 4 until 6 until the next day let the Holy Spirit guide u and you will see !! In that time while fasting read the bible sing worship songs to the Lord and pray that whole day ! Dedicate that whole day to the Lord. God doesnt turn His back on the one who is constantly seeking Him and His presence ! Remember the woman that begged Jesus at the table to heal her daughter but He said He cant give what is for His people to the dogs but she persisted and He indeed Healed her daughter. Im not disagreeing either with the woman in the video i just think that sometimes God lets things happen so we can seek Him ! Sometimes He lets things happen so u can have faith and trust that He is Lord ! Depression i have learned is a demon ! It says so in isaiah 61:3 . It is the spirit of heaviness! What i have learned u have to recognize that it is a demon and call on the name of Jesus to be delivered. It may take time but trust in the Lord and He will show !
@Night Demon So what about people that are so disabled that they act like babies their entire lives and they can't think normally? Are they that way because of spiritual problems?
AMEN. I'm teary reading this because I'm reading about someone else going through my experience. I keep hearing*keep your past in the past*. Yes,I'm not dwelling in the past. I can't just function and I've never been diagnosed,so I don't even know what is wrong with me. I just can't speak to my brethren again because I complain about how much I wanna die and I'll be told that I'm not done with my assignment;and I don't even know what that is. When I complain that others are preferred and not me; I hear die to self. When I say I'm depressed;I hear *whom the Son sets free is free indeed*. And lately I feel so invisible that it feels like God don't even see me. And I keep asking for forgiveness for envying a sister who is so dearly beloved and played with.
"I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me."(Philippians 4:13)With Jesus Christ in the heart you will find peace, nothing is impossible for God. "But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible."(Matthew 19:26) Go to Jesus Christ, pray to Him and you will find rest, God bless!😊
Prayed for more than 20 years, was a good Christian, did all I knew and believed. And when I hit absolute rock bottom after a suicide attempt, I realized that the biblical God doesn't exist and I became an atheist. Ever since, I've been happy. And some imaginary character had nothing to do with it. If there is a higher power it most definitely is not an ancient bronze age fable bullshit story.
@@sammysam2615 Why do you have to be so hateful and rude just because you choose not to believe? Nobody is harming you personally or attacking you for your beliefs why do it to others'?
I have PTSD and lots of anxiety and chronic depression thanks to bad situations while younger, while also having ADHD. I don't think praying will do anything, nor will antidepressants, ADHD medicine or more. NOTHING WORKS DAMNIT!!
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You seriously made me teared😞of your struggle and how some Christians try to teared us down for having emotional or mental problems and by making us feel less than how a so called"perfect Christian should be?!"Jesus Christ loves us for who we really truly are, God bless you for sharing. Be at peace always!❤🍷
The church is not always so good at dealing with mental health or assault issues, Rick and Kay Warren at Saddleback Church are one of the ONLY churches I know who are really good at addressing mental health and the church, they are soo good! I hear you girl i hear you!! I can relate to you
Wow Rick W and his saddlebacj church are some of the most unchristian preachers an churches. It has a sweet and wonderful veneer but it’s a whitewashed grave. Take care.
My pastor and a lot of my christian friends do not know my trauma physical assault story or the other traumas, i told one university pastor and he went silent didnt respond on facebook or talk to me face to face about it... hes a great guy godly and loving but he did not come up to me to discuss it... i feel like he is struggling to deal with my trauma story and is hurting for me but cant seem to face me... its hurting me more cos i feel rejected!! Pastors dont know how to deal with assault or domestic violence well at all... they need training
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Green Eyes Racy Fox theres a couple things i have empathy for one hes only 36 years old so a relatively young pastor and two i have feelings for him and he knows this but doesnt return them... its basically unrequited love/feelings and while we have both been mature about it and honest, hes not a very good facebook or text message/digital responder more the face to face kind of person although it still hurts he didnt reply. He has spoken to me since but not about the trauma topic and more hi etc, i know its awkward for him but he has no idea how hard it was for me to be vulnerable with him and tell him.. i feel he doesn’t yet realise his silence or not dealing with it, it causing me a great deal of pain. In hindsight though I did tell him i had saught trauma therapy and im all ok and managing etc and have friends, so maybe he thinks its not his place to help me because of the unrequited feelings etc. so complicated:-! I see him every sunday and at all weddings and social events... getting harder for us to avoid each other lol!
The least he could have done was say im so sorry for what you went through and pray for you. You dont have to be a pastor to know how to sympathize with others What a coward.
I probably have/had depression. I wasn't diagnosed and when I tried to talk about the possibility I heard that "I don't have reasons to be depressed". I had problems with falling asleep and waking up, when someone was pointing out my faults I was having unbearable self-destructing thoughts and was thinking about harming myself. For a few years I couldn't even pray. Someday I decided to pray with my own words, because I had problems with my relationship with my fiance and I wanted to understand him better. I prayed a few days. God gave me possible solution and I accepted which was very difficult and changed my life. I said that I don't know everything and I trust Him. And than I was born again. He delievered me and gave me more than I imagined. I sleep better and wake up easier. I am happier, calmer and have much more energy. Maybe my problem was spiritual but I'm going to test if I could still be depressed and seek help with professionals. So I will advice people to pray, but I won't for sure also advice to try other possibilities. We have doctors and psychologists for a reason. But try out also prayer. With your own words, tell Him everything what's on your mind and in your heart. Why are you hurt your questions somewhere where you will be alone and in silence. Maybe you'll get help and answers you seek. If not, do everything you can to find help somewhere else or do this simultaneously. Good luck ❤
Depression and anxiety are common and they are symptoms. Symptoms of complicated issues that many people don't have insight into. The pills don't fix it. It's too bad that depression and anxiety are so ubiquitous that people often don't take it seriously enough.
I talked about my depression with a Christian group, and a girl there said she was on medication for anxiety, like I am...and she was prayed for and healed. I agreed to being prayed over and repeated the words and I ended up feeling worse. I was irritated and in my head it was comical. The second time being prayed over, I felt more calm, but their was a feeling of a “hole” in my heart/chest. I’ve dealt with mental health for awhile. It’s not that I don’t want to be healed...I agreed that “if it’s Gods’ will.” They said I have to “want it” to leave and that God wouldn’t want me to have the anxiety and depression.
U can pray to God yourself for healing. Every sickness is not healed. It's the way it is. I get blamed for my Illness!! I highly doubt Jesus is mad w us!
You can’t pray away a chemical imbalance in the brain. Those people should’ve referred you to a medical professional who was well equipped with knowledge and experience needed in combating mental illnesses. Sorry you had to go through what you went through.
I served as an assistant pastor until I got PTSD. I can tell you it's difficult for anyone without PTSD to understand what its like and that's unfortunate because they can come across harsh. Some Christians have experienced miracles and the power of God and were healed. Some needed medication and healed through a combination of things. So that is their stance and belief. My experience has been much like Jobs in that people just didn't understand but whatever we are going through I knew God is in control and there is a reason. It's been a year and what I can say is that I'm much more humble, compassionate, gentle and I'm not afraid of death anymore. I read the bible as if my life depended on it and I'm overcoming the condition. The word of God does heal you. I have used medication to cope and I didn't feel bad about it. It's a journey.
Wow. Thank you for this. I'm a Christian that had condemned myself over the years for recurring depression and finally went to a Christian therapist. When I confessed that I was struggling over needing to see a therapist, he responded, "As your brother in Christ, I'm simply discipling you." Wow. I had never equated discipling on that level! And the healing that God has brought about because of it is phenomenal!!!! ☺️
First of all let me say that I am sorry for what you went through. I am a christian minister and I suffer from depression. There is absolutely nothing sinful or wrong about suffering from this illness. And let me say that there is nothing wrong about needing medication in order to control it. I have been on antidepressants for many many years. I pray your faith is still strong after all of that.
I HAVE TRUST ISSUES, but I still depend and lean on God still. My real mother did drugs when she had me I’m literally messed up in the head, but I understand God has changed my heart and uses my mind to speak to me in all kinds of ways. There’s beauty in pain to all my people who have mental illnesses and physical problems. God uses the things we are insecure and hate about ourselves
I had severe childhood trauma. By 17 I was using drugs and by 21 I was a blackout drunk and drug addict. At 25 I got sober and am now 2 years sober. At 8 months sober God answered me and my entire life changed. He completely freed me from the drugs and alcohol. Im still heavy addict to masterbating even tho the porn is gone. Im miserable like 90% of the time and I cannot stop losing my mind about my relationship with God. I believe fully in Christ but I’m so mentally ill and messed up it’s basically a living nightmare. Life is way better now even tho the constant suffering. I just want Him to come back so this can be over.
Oh my God me too. And they say it's my fault. I let demons in. Which I did but I had very severe abuse as a kid. I'm in a group home. Oh it's so hard. And really, I've went to 5 ministries... Help God! God did heal me from alcohol on a barstool but I back slid and now im king saul or something. Horrible
I want to preference my main comment with this; I'm writing this as both a professional counselor and a pastor. She's absolutely right about finding help outside of the church. I would only add, that her understanding is a little incomplete because God gives us gifts to help us. For instance, he said every good and perfect gift comes down from heaven above. Luke who wrote the Gospel of Luke was a physician, And in terms of mental health, there are therapeutic modalities that absolutely fit the scripture. For instance, Romans 12:2 tells us to be transformed by the renewing of our minds. That is exactly what takes place in mental health counseling especially with CBT, DBT, and EMDR. So while the scripture does not specifically name these methods of counseling, these methods are already in scripture they're just worded a little differently and don't have as much detail. Another example is 1st or 2nd Corinthians chapter 11 which states, "you are not by us but you are hindered in your own bowels." Now that's old King James language which are modern way of thinking would interpret that as our GI tract but the original Greek New testament says that bowels means emotions or the seat of our emotions. I believe that the seat of our emotions is referring to the amygdala as well as the hippocampus, or possibly the limbic system as a whole. And anyone that's experienced trauma, as this young lady has, eventually comes to an understanding through counseling that certain things can trigger old memories which will in turn trigger the amygdala to produce fear and or anger about the abuse bekins often feel as though you are really experiencing the trauma all over. A friend recently asked me to counsel young lady that had been raped, but she just wasn't ready she was terrified at the thought of reliving the event. So when it says we're hindered in our spiritual growth because of our emotions or seat of the emotions or the amygdala it's absolutely right on the money. Then going back to Romans 12:2 the way to grow and be healed is through transformation by the renewing of our mind i.e. through CBT DBT EMDR or through some other counseling modality. Now combining that with scripture and the understanding that God is love and he wants to heal people, creates an environment of safety and security which is absolutely necessary for healing. I hope this does not come across as criticizing anything she said because she's right on the money. However her understanding about not finding helping scripture is incomplete but that's understandable given the fact that most people don't know the original Greek or Hebrew language of scripture. Psalms 147:3 states that God heals the brokenhearted the word broken hearted means again those who are emotionally depressed have anxiety and who have been crushed etc. If you know how to read the scripture and incorporate counseling modalities into scripture then you have the best of both. God gives counselors as a gift to humanity effectuate his healing for humanity.
LaMarge I’m so glad I could help in any way. I’m sorry that all your family says is that...that hurts my heart to hear. You are so much more that “just a lost teenager”. Hang in there, you are not alone!
It’s both. Mental health resources are critical and medication can help. However there is a spiritual element at the core of mental illness which is ignored by clinicians and modern medicine which is what bridges the gap between treatment / strategies to manage and finding true healing. Sadly we are living in a time of strict materialism concerning medical treatment so it’s important to seek both physical and spiritual treatment independently. These things are not mutually exclusive
When I was a Jehovah's Witness the members told me and others the same things you were told. Prayer, scriptures, have more faith! and... you must have demons and done something wrong to invoke them. When I left that Religion to become a follower of Christ, same thing is happening all over again in the Christian community. Thank you for this video . I really agree with these thoughts.
Better to get away from religion, I did last year. You are just repeating the past JW and transferring that into Christians. I did the same thing, when you are abused you tend to repeat the past until you figure it out. I'm 54. It is hard but you can do it. Find hobbies, friends, and outlets that are not religious.
You are not [insert diagnosis]...you ARE fearfully and wonderfully made and in the image of God you were created. We all may have different challenges in this life but God is not mad at you, God is not punishing you and God has not forgotten you! Our condition in this physical life is for God’s glory and it is nothing in comparison with life in His kingdom. God bless you. Keep growing in Jesus Christ. Keep seeking him asking him and relying on him. Keep praying to discern the will of God. Medication may help.
I'm so sorry that happened to you. That is nasty and not okay. Especially from a trusted person who's supposed to be safe. Complete breach of trust and worse. i want to give you a big hug.
Thanks both of you for such a wonderful vid. It is the same problem in all faiths. Christianity is not alone handling depression in such a horrendous way. I grew up a Muslim, and I had been suffering from depression for many years before I plucked up the courage to see the shrink. That time, I was still at home & seeing a psychotherapist was something close to be entitled “CRAZY” and stigmatize the whole family’s reputation. I still remember when I would talk to my friends, most of them weren’t even good Muslims, about my problem, all used to say the same crap “Faith, Faith, Faith”. Now ten years later, out of home for good, still recovering from depression, seeing the shrink regularly, and living my own life .... & guess what!?! Never felt better like noawadays❣️
John 3:16 New International Version 16 For God so loved(A) the world that he gave(B) his one and only Son,(C) that whoever believes(D) in him shall not perish but have eternal life.(E) 🙏
I experience anxiety from certain foods and preservatives, when my ferritin levels were super low, and malnourished. Diet plays a role so much. I thought i had demons because of the rage and anxiety for the longest time. I was mad at God for not fixing me. But He led me on a journey of learning how to heal which was better than the instant fix. It was hard but so valuable.
When I was young my parents made me take a summer long course where you would learn to cast out your “demons”. I had been trying to get them to get me help for years now, and to them this was this answer. When it didn’t work I was accused of not doing everything right, some other people didn’t understand why I wouldn’t just choose to not feel these “demons.” I found out years later that I have borderline personality disorder. My parents don’t believe me but it doesn’t matter, I’ve gotten better and they keep pretending that their faith is getting them through. It isn’t. Every time I talk to my mom she tells me how bad she’s doing and when I have to see my step dad it’s just the same old abusive, narcissistic behavior. To this day when people say they’ll pray for me I take it as an insult. If only cause they don’t even know if I’m Christian, it’s not appreciated.
Sorry to hear that. May be better for you to detach from them. Mental illness does run in families. My mom is really bad narc, I have had no contact for 10 years. She is manipulative, controlling, and horrible. Educate yourself on narcissism if you haven't already. But is sounds like you know some about it already.
I have dealt with depression since I was 12 (in 1975) and when I see videos like this I am grateful that my parents were moderate Catholics (partly, my mother was quite a skeptic). The never threw religion at me, and were very supportive.
I have had anxiety and cptsd since childhood. Fortunately I figured out at a young age how to read through the Bible yearly (12), and had a concordance and reading commentaries and theology books in high school. Also started studying bible and theology in college and even audited seminary courses. After that my husband and I went to the mission field after he finished seminary. Because being deeply rooted in scripture, I was able to take the “Christians shouldn’t struggle with mental health” with a grain of salt. I was sexually abused by 2 people in my family at a young age (one for years) and then sexually assaulted by a family member when I was older. The anxiety is now a physical problem in my neurochemistry. I see it as my thorn in the flesh. I do medicate. Talking to people who think it’s demons or lack of faith can be frustrating. Deep study in the word can be your saving grace
It's in going to a therapist and psychiatrist that, not only have I received meds, great advice and support, but I've been able to share my faith and joy.
I fought with sin and depression came all the time. I was immersed in sin. Constant non-stop entertainment consumption and pornography where my masters and I would be constantly depressed. I needed freedom and I found it in Jesus and believing fully His Word. She might think she found the answers but it is a fact that she is worse off now without God than with her imagined faith. Her god was a figment of imagination, when God according to His love and mercy is able to do great things for those who earnestly seek Him with their whole heart. The fear of the Lord, is the beginning of wisdom, and knowledge of the Holy One is understanding. If she desired to seek God and fear and love Him. You would ask how this depression would come to pass. Sin can definitely lead us into deep depression. Please dont think bad of this, I'm being open and gut level honest. I was steeped in sin for decades, I didnt look for an answer the ways I should have. I found the first step for the path I need to take so I can find a way out of this pit. I started looking for wisdom in His Word. I as I searched I found out about "the fear of the Lord" I dismissed it for most of my life but I was desperate enough to try and believe it whole heartedly. Only through the fear of the Lord did I have victory in Jesus Christ and immeasurable JOY! FREE OF MY PERSONAL SLAVERY! SELF HATE, SUICIDAL THOUGHTS since I was a 13. I cannot tell you how I never thought I would overcome. My attachments to entertainment and pornography were a whole life to itself. I would go to church and pray for forgiveness every week every day. Nothing happened. Just self hate, and suicidal thoughts. Back then, way back in the day, folks had a fear of God, some took it to an unhealthy level because they did not read the Word of God and understand how, or who God is and were confused and did wrong to themselves and to others. But those who feared the Lord kept themselves from commiting atrocities. Pedophile priests or pastors for example. Priests have a twisted view of God's Word and think it is wrong to be married because they think you cant be faithful to God. For pastors living in sexual sin, it ONLY GETS WORSE. As it is written: James 1:14-16 14but each person is tempted when they are dragged away by their own evil desire and enticed. 15Then, after desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and sin, when it is full-grown, gives birth to death. [Then we hear about cases that happen. Like what happened to Joe. I'm very sorry that she experienced that.] And regarding sexually immoral priests As it is written: For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done. Romans 1:21-22, 26, 28 NIV To keep us and the Church of Christ pure and healthy mentally and spiritually that is proven in the Bible and in me. I have absolutely no desire to go back and since then, my thoughts have been cleaner and rid of the amount of self hate I had throughout 10 years consistently. This is a lifetime BREAK THROUGH. Proverbs 16:6 By mercy and truth iniquity is purged: and by the fear of the LORD men depart from evil. Seek community. People who you know Love and obey Him in thoughts Word and deeds. God gave us His Kingdom, His church. If there are others who aren't living in accordance to God's will or at least, are showing desire for it and humble in seeking it. Look for those who are and do. Lovers of Christ and His righteousness. You want those people in your life to help you get through those dark times. As it is written: Matthew 6:33 But seek first his kingdom and his righteousness, and all these things will be given to you as well. God does not leave us without any resources. I have sought therapy all of my life. I was with an empty joy trying meditation, and art, (which I love) music and excersize but it was never enough to fill me. Trust,Healthy Fear, and Love for the Lord by Obeying Him, and trusting in His promises confirms He is a truth teller and that the GOOD WORK He started in YOU HE WILL! CARRY IT OUT UNTIL COMPLETION! AMEN!!!
Thank you so much! I've been badly depressed since age 13, was 15 for my first suicide attempt. Thank you for helping me know what to listen for and ignore.
John 3:16 New International Version 16 For God so loved(A) the world that he gave(B) his one and only Son,(C) that whoever believes(D) in him shall not perish but have eternal life.(E) 🙏
Im a christian that suffers with depression and anxiety. I can defiantly relate. I will try to seek medical help again beacuse i feel like it really works for me. I pray that God can guide me to mental healing. I still haven't found why im this way i honestly have no reason to be depressed or anxious. But we live in a fallen world and we have to keep on living till God calls us.
Alex Santiago best of luck on your journey to find help my friend. I’ve been there, and am there. You don’t need a “reason” to be depressed or anxious - sometimes our brains just don’t work quite the same as others. It absolutely gets better. I hope that your faith and counselors will help you along the way to a better life. Hang in there, you are you alone. 💜
John 3:16 New International Version 16 For God so loved(A) the world that he gave(B) his one and only Son,(C) that whoever believes(D) in him shall not perish but have eternal life.(E) 🙏
I bumped into this video because I purposely came searching exactly for this. Couldn't explain better. I have generalized anxiety and my aunts and mom are christian even me but I stoped going because of my mental health. They say it's my faith or when I tell them I worry they automatically say that I'm not putting everything in God's hands. They have said it sooooo much that I finally opened up to them its a chemical imbalance. Even explaining to them they question it. Told them I had to take meds but when I finally decided to get them I had to cancel them after like a month or so because of my insurance but hope to get back on them ❤❤❤❤❤..
John 3:16 New International Version 16 For God so loved(A) the world that he gave(B) his one and only Son,(C) that whoever believes(D) in him shall not perish but have eternal life.(E) 🙏
Scrupulosity is characterized by pathological guilt about moral or religious issues. It is personally distressing, objectively dysfunctional, and often accompanied by significant impairment in social functioning.
have the symptoms of BPD is the worst when you are a Christian. You wonder everyday if God will forgive your failings that are caused by your illness. Sometimes i really want to do good and i do good but then a trigger happens and it can derail me for hours, days or even weeks or months if its bad enough. I'm afraid i will not be with Jesus for eternity because of these. I dont make it a crutch to do evil believe me, im just talking about the times i want to do good and my will isnt strong enough not when i willingly do sin.
I know we spoke in the comment section of one of my videos but I'm really sorry for all the lines you've heard and that this is your life right now it sure sounds like it from what you said...please know that it is NOT a lack of faith to seek help, and it is not a lack of faith to be struggling, be depressed, or be suicidal. If you are struggling like that, it is so important to look for tools and find help, because it is out there for you, and I truly, 100% believe that God walks with us as we walk through such struggles!
Im Muslim and if you have idea you know how our religion works. Im so depressed that when I feel like doing something for me I remember this " this life is temporary, real life begins in the here after" and I lose motivation to do anything in present. I think a lot before shaking hands with strangers, wishing them on their festivals, feeling awkward that im muslim so I have to show my religious image more than who really I am. I was so so low and indeed prayers help but not the help I wanted, it is peaceful till im in prayer mat contemplating on god but I should get up and face my reality it shrinks me again. I thought im not a good believer I need to work hard so I tired to understand my scripture in easy language and trust me most of the phrase didn't get into my mind and it increased more questions in my head why how so and so. I also came across a quote by a scholar " If it is said, dont question it" and that hit me hard made me feel so worthless that im not agreeing on god and im being possessed by demon or something. Im glad my mind made me think that this might be more than demon n god and more mental illness coz of not being worth enough for god and landed to your video. Thank you so much guys ❤️
oh no... it's not being demon possessed or being lack of faith. Sometimes it really just a physical sickness in the brain. God bless you and I pray that God leads you to the help and support you need with your mental health.
I've had pastors say that if you have Jesus in your life then you shouldn't be afraid of anything or have any sadness. As someone with generalized anxiety disorder AND Major depressive disorder, this was extremely painful and conflicting for me. I had never felt so much shame in my life.
Well, we should only fear God. As far as sadness is concerned, what your pastor said is a heresy. Jesus wept. Listen to the sermon „Do Not Surpress Your God Given Emotions“ by Derek Prince
I have schizophrenia,and heard all the suggestions that the reason is not enough faith... And,yes,that may feel discouraging,but i believe either that God IS the only answer.all other tools may work to stabilize the health,but true healing comes from the ONE who created us and who paid the price for our healing. In HIS wounds we are healed.He took all our sufferings.if we can't believe that as strong as we want He is gracious ...but still HE is the source of my life and healing Nothing is bigger than HIS love and we can respond to that by our trust in Him,whatever we face...
Great video, she explained faith and mental health perfectly. There's a great testimony of a pastor named tommy Nelson from Denton bible church who got hammered by anxiety and depression. His story is on you tube
I suffered PTSD servere depression had 21 shock treatments {ECT} faith wasnt strong strong enough I didnt really believe,and so was rejected by the church and alienated most of my life.i stuck with God on and off more off than on but God never left me I am now 60 and its taken so long lots of things helped no immediate miracles took discipline no psychiatrist or psychologist was ever any help.. Pastors and leaders gave up but not God
I was convinced if I went to anything except Jesus (I.e. pray, read the Bible, be with other Christians), then it was idolatry. Turns out most of my “sin” issues were bc I was allergic to grains, needed to do yoga, mediate and get outside more. Oh, and stop believing in anything supernatural. 👍🏻 I’m a whole human these days. ❤️
John 3:16 New International Version 16 For God so loved(A) the world that he gave(B) his one and only Son,(C) that whoever believes(D) in him shall not perish but have eternal life.(E) 🙏
Yes! So many Christians are so out of touch with, or in denial of, their own trauma that they don't realise how it affects those who are either going through it, or have been through it when they give trite platitudes. I think this is one of the main reasons so many people have left the faith, which is sad since God is the God of compassion and the Psalms were written by someone who clearly wrote about the whole gamut of human experience and emotion due to experiencing it all himself. Sadly, there is much repression in the Church. I love the Church, but there is much that is very out of order and toxic. But I believe that even that, God can heal.
I’m not here to be antagonistic in any way, but sometimes hard questions are necessary to get to the root of the problem. Is there the slightest possibility that what we’re believing in is the source of our anxiety and depression?
Yes, in fact, I wholeheartedly believe there is enough evidence that depression and anxiety is linked to our thoughts and personal feelings. There's this popular belief among the Christian community that we are worthless by ourselves and must only have faith in God/Jesus alone. This right here can lead to emotional problems as we doubt ourselves and continue to rely on someone to save us than learning it may never happen.
John 3:16 New International Version 16 For God so loved(A) the world that he gave(B) his one and only Son,(C) that whoever believes(D) in him shall not perish but have eternal life.(E) 🙏
I was saved at age 12. but dealt with depression all my life and wondered what I was supposed to do because the Bible and Jesus was supposed to be the answer for everything. In 2012 I read a book call "Happy for No Reason" by Marci Shimoff (not a Christian book) and for the first time ever I woke up not depressed.
Thank you so much Jo for speaking about this honestly with fearless expression
Thank you Scott for allowing me to do so! :-)
This video here should have WAAY'' more views than in does a.t.t.
Thank you for sharing this.
You have guts young lady, respect to you for being straight up.
When we see the white neck collar on a person we should be
able to think that person could be trusted not to take advantage
of the vulnerable .
A pal a little while back now had counseling sessions & advised me
to try the service with this priest guy when I was in my late teens.
Keen to deal with my well being although still a bit green I went for a
session.
Soon after arriving though, just as I started to open up a little more ,
he began touching my knee & then knelt on the floor in front of my chair
looking into my eyes urging me to 'let it all out' , only he had a frantic
kind of look in his eyes like he was getting excited as he fondled and
started up my leg! how bizarre I never realized knee frottage
was part of church counseling therapy haha
I remember coming away feeling angry at myself for trusting this
person i'd only just met!
I tried suicide twice I’m bipolar and I have anxiety panic attacks and I’ve been kicked out literally out of church they said I was to broken it’s weird as an atheist I was people like that make me gross what the heck
My mom got mad at me and said that I’m not a real Christian because I’m struggling with my mental health and I have to stop being weak that broke me heart.. thanks for this video
Everything she said about you is totally false. If anything, you are a real Christian and satan is attacking you because of your faith in God. satan sometimes uses the people closest to us to get to us. Stay strong.
i am so sorry..i can relate
So sorry! Same here.. It shoves you deeper into the pit.
That's horrible. I'm so sorry!
According to the following promises that Jesus left with the church, how can Christians have any issues? How can one reconcile the problems that are suffered to the heavenly solutions that are given? Are these promises really genuine?
John 15:7
7 If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you.
Matthew 7:7-8
7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:
8 For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.
Matthew 18:19-20
19 Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven.
20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.
John 14:12-14
12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.
13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.
14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.
Mark 16:17-18
17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.
Mark 11:22-24
22 And Jesus answering saith unto them, Have faith in God.
23 For verily I say unto you, That whosoever shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; and shall not doubt in his heart, but shall believe that those things which he saith shall come to pass; he shall have whatsoever he saith.
24 Therefore I say unto you, What things soever ye desire, when ye pray, believe that ye receive them, and ye shall have them.
James 5:14-15
14 Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:
15 And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.
People who say 'you just gotta pray about it' are like the so-called 'friends' of Job who would accuse Job of sin as being the cause of his suffering.
sometimes you need christians friends filled with the power of the holy ghost of Christ and with gifts to shatter the darkness that strongholds most people in the world to not to say a vast majority held in a demonic power and only GOD's power can break it with his strength
Exactly
@@lorddiosliving Yeah...
YES...
Job did not curse God, but he was self righteous. God dealt with it.
I'm a Christian and a veteran. I've been dealing with crippling panic disorder for a long time. Both my side of the family and my wife's are devout Christians. They don't believe Christians should have mental illness. I have a hard time keeping jobs because of it. I talk to the VA counselors and my wife (she is an absolute Godsend). I'm doing my best. I'm having an episode as I'm typing this. Thank you so much
🙏im a vet too and a christian living with crippling anxiety, panick attacks and cant leave my house. the va has me on meds but sometimes it aint enough. im suspecting demonic attacks cause im in a prayer team. keep the faith brother and keep praying, the lord knows our trouble. video bible and worship songs help me alot. god bless you brother.
Best wishes fellow veterans. Fortunately my service didn't cause many problems (I was depressive before I went in). We were in harm's way but the harm never quite came to me directly, so I emerged mostly unscathed. I feel divided about the VA. They do what they can, but have their limitations .
Try the Mediterranean diet as an anti anxiety diet and also look into carnivore keto or whole food vegan vegetarian according to your blood type. Probiotics are anxieties killer as well
@@Luke-EmmanuelAccording to the following promises that Jesus left with the church, how can Christians have any issues? How can one reconcile the problems that are suffered to the heavenly solutions that are given? Are these promises really genuine?
John 15:7
7 If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you.
Matthew 7:7-8
7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:
8 For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.
Matthew 18:19-20
19 Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven.
20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.
John 14:12-14
12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.
13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.
14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.
Mark 16:17-18
17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.
Mark 11:22-24
22 And Jesus answering saith unto them, Have faith in God.
23 For verily I say unto you, That whosoever shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; and shall not doubt in his heart, but shall believe that those things which he saith shall come to pass; he shall have whatsoever he saith.
24 Therefore I say unto you, What things soever ye desire, when ye pray, believe that ye receive them, and ye shall have them.
James 5:14-15
14 Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:
15 And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.
Praying you're maintaining better these days 🙏🏽🙏🏽
I also see where some Christians will claim you aren't even saved or a "real" Christian if you have anxiety.
Which DOESN'T help at all especially if you already are questioning your faith .
Chapter 21
16 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
17 Speak unto Aaron, saying, Whosoever he be of thy seed in their generations that hath any blemish, let him not approach to offer the bread of his God.
18 For whatsoever man he be that hath a blemish, he shall not approach: a blind man, or a lame, or he that hath a flat nose, or any thing superfluous,
19 Or a man that is brokenfooted, or brokenhanded,
20 Or crookbackt, or a dwarf, or that hath a blemish in his eye, or be scurvy, or scabbed, or hath his stones broken;
21 No man that hath a blemish of the seed of Aaron the priest shall come nigh to offer the offerings of the LORD made by fire: he hath a blemish; he shall not come nigh to offer the bread of his God.
Doesn't sound like a loving, accepting god to me. Doesn't sound like someone I would like to hang out with.
@@jameswest8280 You're obviously not seeing the context or purposely hoping someone doesn't see the context and make it relatable to them. This is talking about the High Priests who symbolically represent Jesus Christ and who offer the sacrifices of sins for the people. Therefore, God saw the importance of keeping the High Priest pure and without blemish because he was a foreshadow of Christ who was to come. I can already tell you only pick and choose versus and don't understand what they actually mean. You're the type of person who calls people ignorant, but you yourself are ignorant in not knowing any facts on the matter. You're even worse than ignorant actually. You're purposefully lazy and you love to try and lead people away from what they believe because you yourself can't fathom of something bigger than you existing. You don't want to admit you're small and insignificant. You want to be your own God and do whatever you feel like doing without consequences. You don't want a parent figure probably because you grew up with terrible parents. I feel sorry for you but I also don't. You had excuses when you were young, but now that you're an adult, there is no excuse to still act like a child. Grow up and don't talk about things you don't know about.
@@jameswest8280 Mathew 14:14, Mathew 19:2, Mathew 21:14.
You can be saved, but you are probably in the place of disobedience and that makes you stressed out & anxious. Just sit down before the Lord quietly ask him what needs to go from your life. Friends, romanti relationship, too demanding a job ?
That statement is disgusting. The bible says be anxious for nothing cuz God knew as Christians we would face anxiety. Anxiety has nothing to do with salvation. I Will openly rebuke Christians who say that! It is such a stumbling block
All those lines about faith. Heard them all...Probably one of the reasons I stopped going to church. People would tell me just to pray about it. And then it didn't work. I would just be like. "Maybe I did something to make God very angry". But then I learned the being Christian is not about being crazy religious. But to have a relationship with Jesus. Most people end up using God's name to state their opinion, and that's what hurts people. But awesome video. As always.
Sorry but I'm curious so I have to ask. What is a "relationship with Jesus"? Does he talk back to you in your mind or is Jesus somehow a metaphor for something else?
Christopher Hendricks Faith is believing in that which we cannot see. God answers through his word(bible). Honestly I won't lie and say he speaks to me, literally. Christianity is journey I'm taking cause I believe there is a God out there. I'm basically a social outcast, so I won't say I grew up in a church or anything cause I always get very anxious in crowded places and my bad experiences with "church" people is what withdrew me from that setting. I respect a person's choice and won't force them into anything. 1 I've had so many fucked up things happen to me, I'm sure I would've been dead if it wasn't for some external force. 2 I don't have many people to talk to, so I usually spend most of my time in thought. 3 I'm hoping there is something in all this suffering and me not committing suicide is one cause I believe God brought me here for a reason. Two There is only one person on this earth keeping me here and that's my mother, rest of the people I know lost patience with me and just left. So that's all I have to cling onto. That's why I won't go around parading about being a "Christian" cause we all have our person relationships with God. I'm just trying to find solace in all this darkness. So, hey man it's just something personal. I'm sure you have things that also keep you going. Trust me suffering from depression in an African community sucks. People either think you're cursed or possessed by demons or lack faith. I've been fighting this for 10 years and 80% of those battles were alone. I'm sure you can get the picture. I don't have much left, no support to pick me up when I fall. I had to learn to endure this all on my own.
Ray Amukwaya sounds like to me ur mother is ur savior and not Jesus or god, if that offends u I'm dearly sorry. From what you said it does seem that there is some external force that has kept u alive, ik from my experience with depression and the one case of almost attempting suicide my family was the reason y I couldn't do it, also I wish I knew u in real life to give u some support like ur mother does
Azc Lal no offense taken...Get what you mean...But hey, this channel is, where I meet most of y'all. So its not a complete loss :) . Respect your opinion.
Ray Amukwaya you stopped going to church because they made rules that no one can handle and cope but Jesus Christ dont give those rules he wants you free from burden and yoke..men only deforms the gosplel our Lord guide us to the truth
The amount of times I’ve been shamed for sharing about my anxiety disorder is upsetting. No one ever talks about it either. I just want to feel validated.
You are validated honey! God specifically loves spending more time with the mentally ill , especially if you want to be close with him! Don’t be ashamed to also seek art or threapy to also help along with faith as your main tool for you’re mental health you’re not alone and I’m on medication yet I know God isn’t mad at me for “not trusting that he’ll cure me” I know he will and are giving me these things IN ORDER to help me and others. Your gonna be on the right track
As a Christian that has struggled with mental illness and as someone passionate about merging the church and mental health help, thank you guys for making this video! Instead of being a accusatory or negative space the church should be a place for the hurting. God is so big and He can and does use all resources for healing, providence, and chain breaking.
I could not agree more..the chuch should be a space for the hurting, not one that damages them more. God is huge...in my opinion, if we beleive in a God who is as big as most Christian profess, why do we put him in such a tiny box when it comes to mental health? The resources are extensive, and I believe he walks with us as we find and utilize those resources and find help.
Trauma Talk when the christians has more time and its mature enough that person must have intimacy and a better personal relationship with the lord the church wont sufice..the meeting with the lord must be in our homes
Socrates Jones well said
If jesus was walking down the street, and there was a church on one side of the street, and a jail on the other, where would he go teach?
James West I feel like the “church” doesn’t represent Jesus at all...so I would say the jail where he could connect with and help people who need it and are real.
My church has always been accepting of my mental health and have encouraged me to seek proper help.
My church also. Very supportive ❤️🙏
Same with my Church. They do a lot for the community and homeless people, as well. They’re very kind people and I’m really thankful to have found a Church like that. I’m sorry for anyone who has had people be unkind to them in Church.
You are very lucky! Many people are fed abhorrent lines about it being their fault in one way or another, and it is not! You deserve health and wellbeing just like the rest of us and there is no shame in having a mental disorder. All the best to you!
Same! Amen ❤❤❤
'My faith' is always the trigger for becoming depressed
Wimsem - Tekenen & Knutselen so why not give up the faith thing alltogether .don't you think that's what you need to do to get better? sure sounds like it to me.
@@PastorPeggy She said her faith is her trigger and you post another trigger. SMH
Me too you’re not alone. I think of the good things not the scary. I block out whatever triggers me and I remind myself of the good he does.
@@kingpenny1793 that’s helpful. Are there any resources u use that u can share to help me? I am battling this
Faith is all good and all, but action is more important.
As a Christian who lives with Anxiety, I'm so grateful you shared Jo's story! I love the message of your chanel! Subbing to both of you!
Severe OCD here, feels like I have alarm bells going off 24/7. Depression, guilt, anger at God for allowing me to continue to suffer so greatly. Tiny amounts of Cannabis are the only thing that give me relief. Unfortunately, "the Church" believes all the government propaganda and does not acknowledge the uses of Cannabis or mental health disorders. I 100% believe OCD is a physical disorder, very similar to Tourettes or epilepsy and co-occurs with some of the most damning depression ever known to man. My entire life has been miserable, I have struggled with repeated relapses into alcoholism and any other vices that bring temporary relief from the symptoms I have tried so hard to hide. I wouldn't wish this on my worst enemy. I sincerely hope and pray I'm counted worthy to go in the rapture and escape this hellish existence that is my mind.
Wow......somewhat having this same issue
Alcoholic and want to be in rapture
@conversion and confusion: yes alcoholic and he will be in the rapture, once Jesus saves you, you’re saved forever !
@@Balloutronny and do what spend time with mental god
@@conversion721 i highly suggest you STUDY mental illness before you throw more self-righteous baggage on a sufferer.
Jesus was not happy with the things that were going on inside of the church, the older I get the more I am starting to see that little has changed, the Pharisees and the Saducees are still running the church businesses, they still have secular beliefs, this confuses so many of us who grew up in these types of church families.
You're not the only one. The churches and "fellow believers" in my area are more concerned about controlling everything and looking perfect.
Ok you are right. But about Jesus: He had no problem with slavery and he told his followers to let others bully them. This is one reason my faith is broken.
@@12StringHWY Where did Jesus say he was okay with slavery?
@@jaxthewolf4572 First of all I'm not an athiest. What your asking is easily found on the internet.
But Jesus told slaves to obey their master and be content with their position.
@@blackandgoldstorytelling3552yes! I was always dressed in Sunday best with polished dress shoes. Later on I understood that boasting in yourself is wrong and I felt like by dressing up was almost a contest. If I was dressed up and someone had a football team shirt on I felt superior.
I realized and later was old enough to see characteristics in my mom I didn't agree with and now just wear a nice dress Tshirts (not button up exept for Religious holidays) and cargo shorts that don't have holes in them.
I feel way less high and mighty and can see who I want to associate with by how they retreat me dressed as that.
My severe depression was due to gut bacteria. It was cured by antibiotics meant for a sinus infection. I was told it was a spiritual attack but I knew it was not.
Can you tell something more about it?
@@theuknown99 I did, but the messages are gone.
@DJ Surferdude I don't remember. It was years ago.
I really relate to this. I'm glad this is brought up. I grew up Christian but also with a lot of physical and emotional abuse from my dad for as long as I could remember. I never understood why I wanted to committ suicide even as young as 10 years old. That thought was always there and it only got worse when I graduated high school, and I could NOT imagine myself living the rest of my life like this, wanting to constantly die and waking up every single day with so much misery, wondering why God hasn't killed me yet. I read a lot about Christianity and depression, and even read blogs about how there are Christians living with deep depression but cope every single day, taking the joy of the Lord with them..and honestly, that sh** made no sense to me.. I started questioning God's nature. I thought, So it's God's will that I am depressed? God literally wants me to be this miserable all my life?" I prayed countless times to God to just help me be normal for once in my life...and it didn't happen... but once it got so bad and I start doing self harm to cope, it was only then I was taken to a counselor, who happened to be Christian, and she really changed my life.. Speaking with her helped me realize a lot about my mental patterns, the root of where all these fears and suicidal thoughts were coming from and we would end with a prayer. Later she moved and we had to part ways, but after that I continued to seek therapy. I had a meeting with psychiatrist once and I was crying in her office, telling her how I truly feel every day. she never forced me. She said, give antidepressant a try, and if you want to stop, it's ok... and wow. after a week in that, i have NEVER FELT SO NORMAL in my life. I stopped praying to God in tears every single day, hoping that a car would run me over and kill me. I stopped praying to God to kill me before i reach 25.. depression no longer clouded my judgement and everything I saw.. I started seeing so much beauty in the small things, i started thanking God much more, noticing the beauties in His creation.. I was able to get back into school again and I no longer slept to escape that miserable feeling.. it's been two years since and I really glad I took that SSRI.. I moved forward so much in life and through these years, my relationship with God has flourished.. Sure, medication isn't a cure all but I learned that sometimes depression and these mental illness isn't purely spiritual. Some people really have this chemical imbalance, like for my case, I have grown up in such chaotic, hurtful, environment for so long as a child that my brain has put this "sad mode" in default.. My relationship with God now, compared to how I was before medication is extremely different. It's so much better now..
I'm keeping strong Scott. Although been having terrible anxiety attacks, I can't even concentrate to study for my exams. Sometimes I can't even get out of bed. But I'm trying my best. It would suck to fail though. As graduating is one of my goals I set.
U will graduate I did
God is no respecter of persons dont give up
I have been told that it’s a lack of faith to be bipolar and if I’m depressed it’s just because I’m not living in my calling and nowadays I just kinda hate being around other Christians
Just let go...
John 3:16
New International Version
16 For God so loved(A) the world that he gave(B) his one and only Son,(C) that whoever believes(D) in him shall not perish but have eternal life.(E) 🙏
@@reclusiarchgrimaldus1269 Yeah, that ain't helping....
"God is bigger than that" love it!
I know that talking about faith and religion is very delicate because all the different perspectives about the topic, so, I'm not going to jump in those unruly waters giving my personal opinion 😅😅😅 but with all respect, that frase is beautiful and I'm going to keep it for myself: "God is bigger than that." 💖🙏
Hey, it all starts with faith in Jesus, things get better from there for the soul.
I was a hardcore IFB and got shunned after having a nervous breakdown and being suicidal at that time. They even had me convinced I was demonic for being depressed and wasn't a true Christian, resulting in doubting my salvation and making multiple professions of faith to get reassurance.
im not sure what IFB is but I have a similar story to yours
@@mshill2406 Independent Fundamental Baptist churches.
To be fair though, not all IFBs are like that. Some are non-cultic. Just beware of the Hyles branch of IFB.
that was bullsh*ť
Absolutely. And the great thing about being raised in most IFB churches…your parents were just as codependent or narcissistic as the church leadership. When I hear people ask how Trump won the evangelical vote…my hand is the first one up. 🤣
I am a Vedic practioner and respect every religion and knows that JESUS MOHAMMED OR ANY DEVOTEES OF GOD LOVES EVERYONE ALWAYS 🙏
I feel very sad seeing RELIGIOUS TRAUMA SYNDROME SUFFERERS because I was also USED TO SUFFER this to the extent I had to give physical pain to distract myself FROM THIS BY cutting my hand with knives and burn my thumb in geyser hot water .
Thus , I COMPLETLY REALISE THE PAIN OF RTS SUFFERERS AND COMPLEXITIES OF RTS .😣🙏
AND I ALSO pray for every
RTS sufferers always and in my fasting also .
😣🙏🙏🙏
I pray everyone get SYMPATHETIC AND TRULEY CARING SPIRIRTUAL ASSOCIATION.
😣🙏🙏🙏
I recently got baptised and since then I’ve felt this huge pressure to ignore my mental illness and be closer to god... I think part of me thought getting baptised would miraculously take all of that away but that’s not how it works clearly... I’m starting to realise that my mental illness is part of me and that like my faith I have to work on it... it’s hard though because whenever I try to reach out to someone it’s just a case of read the bible more but my faith is so strong atm and I know now that that’s not necessarily the solution... I shouldn’t be to blame and I’m realising that💛
Layers of healing, strongholds come down brick by brick.
I am in the space of being a Christian with strong faith and learning the Bible for myself. Im not baptized, i will be one day but i have alot of healing to do first ( i was almost drowned by an adult who was paid to teach me to swim). I have experienced alot of social isolation from the church i used to go to before being diagnosed with bipolar spectrum disorder (manic depression) as well as from family and friends. Their reactions ranged from treating me like id caught a horrific disease that could be passed on, to some saying that I was trying to get out of working, to others who prayed over me only to then avoid me because I wasnt healed straight away. I found out who were the people who really cared because they refuse to walk away, refuse to allow me to stay sad. I pray that everyone has a couple of people in their life who do everything to help. Sending Blessings, Dot
What the enemy uses for evil (mentally included) God will use that exact same thing for good.
and much infinitely more
As a Christian, suffering from bipolar disorder. What amaze me, I would like to see the church telling people suffering from cancer or any other severe illness, its all about your faith.
Thank you for addressing this!!!! I dealt with that alone (Catholic Church) and it was awful... My parents told me that all the time: “Maybe you are just far from God” or “Go talk to a priest” or even “God is all the medicine you need” 😬 So besides all the mental health struggling I felt guilty or like I was away from my faith and God... I couldn’t hear or feel Him in my soul but at the same time I know that my faith is the only thing that kept me from attempting suicide!!! 🙏🏼 God DOES listen. 💙✨ we just need to speak up & look for the tools He provides through other humans & science.
I'm so sorry for all of those same lines that you heard, seriously....that "God is all the medicine you need one" really gets me, I heard that one too, and it just astounds me that people really still believe that. You weren't far away from God - and I honestly do believe He does listen. But in that, I believe he has given us soooo many tools to use to deal with mental illness, and it is *not* a lack of faith to look to those. God walks with us when we are hurting, not away from us.
Trauma Talk Thank you so much for sharing and for your inspiring words!!! 💜✨...Sadly there’s more people who go through things like this, but thank God we’re not alone in this journey 💙✨ #StayStrong
Amen!!
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Talking to a priest is the leading cause of child molestation. AVOID AT ALL COSTS!!!
Yes. I told my father about my emotional instability(like not normal mood swings and reactions),anxiety and panic attacks(I am a teen) and ue told me”Pray more”
I think that a lot of christians are codependent on their religion, especially the bible. I used to say, "think outside the box," and now I say, "think outside the bible." I grew up in this confined belief system, where my family members were the main members of the church I was eventually baptized in. People would speak in tongues, prophecy, and give testimonials, in addition to preaching. Only men could speak the 'word of God.' Singing was my favorite part, even though the songs were often times filled with constant sorrow. We'd focus so much on suffering. I became depressed and suicidal at age 15. I always had to go to church. After I left that mess, at age 18, I began to realize how dysfunctional it all had been. When I was told that I was compatible with a male cousin of mine who was almost 10 years older than me, I was disturbed. My grandparents are distant cousins who had married within the church. Often times, this church didn't believe in medical intervention. My aunt and uncle lost their daughter (in her early 20s) because her daughter gave birth in their home and died of gangrene poisoning while in labor. She also lost her baby. They didn't believe in doctors or hospitals or clinics. To this day, my cousin (her sister) still struggles to understand why her sister was 'taken.' It's absurd. (Then, too, if you're not baptized in a christian church that goes by a different name, they often want you to get baptized in their church's name. I've had this experience countless times.) I left that crazy church when I was 18 and began uncovering reality. Ever since, I've looked at so many things in a completely different way. People used to tell me to pray more. I'd get down on my knees and pray so hard I'd be crying like you wouldn't believe. The fear and grief and guilt had become a part of my internal messaging and I became susceptible to controlling people. I was a people-pleaser, unable to think/act for myself. I was a real mess. It has taken so much therapy for me to get to where I am, now. I steer clear from Christianity, now, because it has traumatized me so severely. I have PTSD from it. I've tried going to other christian practices and even the better ones have triggered me. I have, honestly, come to realize that religion in itself is a problem. I prefer being a spiritual person who is not bound to any form of practice. Getting sucked in and feeling the pressure to conform is what has really messed me up, as an individual.
This. is worth. to share. I struggle a lot about mental health that I even made an open letter on my blog about it. I was really hurt by the church to the point that I don't attend services, bible studies, or small groups anymore. I faced a lot of discrimination as well. Everything that was stated in this video is just on point. It also all happened to me. I questioned God a lot. But, indeed what adventure it was for Jesus and I. I have learned to just trust and rely in Him and really not base my faith on these people. I also still have to remember that these people are not perfect and that awareness of Mental Health should be raised especially at church. Thanks for this video. God bless you!
Hey I found your channel a while ago and I couldn't be happier. I've had depression for many years but I never did anything to somehow help me deal with it. I've been so scared to go to talk to someone cause I've always thought they can't really help me. But today I booked a time to go see someone to talk to and that's thanks to you and your videos. ❤
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Thank you! Keep the conversation alive.
Thank you! :-)
This is gooooood!!!!!!! I hit rock Bottom depression in 2018 and struggled to take an antidepressant because I was told it was "not godly." Well, thank God I am now at a Church where my Pastor doesnt over spiritualize everything and told me to take medicine as prescribed by my doctor. I combined medical interventions with spiritual and it is the best thing that worked. I also did deliverance and inner healing at my Church and I did have some demonic opression but that was a very small fraction of what I was dealing with. Alot of it was chemical And hormonal ! As women if our hormones and menstrual cycles are off it can cause depression.
This is soooooo needed in our Faith community. Keep doing God's work!
that "isn't God bigger than that?" line bro....whew
Why are you practicing Christianity when our continent had different beliefs? You're following the white God! You should be ashamed of yourself!
@@capenape913 Explain who the "white god" is.
I agree innapropriate comment
@@capenape913 Jesus wasn’t white dimwit
@@cfalcon0754 idk, maybe by being white even though he isn’t
Thank you for this... such a beautiful video❤️ hurts my heart that mental illness is still so misunderstood. Depression does not correlate to lack of faith, it’s just part of the journey! Your testimony astounds me
Jessica, thank you so much for your incredibly kind and uplifting words! And I agree so much - it hurts my heart how mental illness is understood in certain communities...I think tiny steps forward are being made, but they're slow. Thank you again!
Trauma Talk aww most definitely!! You’re so kind! Yes my church is super accommodating and understanding of mental illness (thank goodness!) but there are definitely those old timers who need to recognize there’s more to the world🤷♀️ all the best!!
For me, having been diagnosed with schizophrenia two years ago.......I found out that, I needed both the spiritual and the medical attention. I once got prayed for and the symptoms stopped at one point, and at another, it only got worse....so I'd say do both, get prayers and medical attention. Also that most people dont understand mental diseases.....and can be easily treated just as spiritual attacks.....like I once did.....later discovered I just needed to see the right doctor who could treat me.
You have to take pills for schizophrenia? Can you manage without them?
@@CrazyUncleMike right now, I am on 2mg risperidone per day, and I am alright and working too.
I needed to here this. Everyone in my life has always told me mental health is a scam or a weakness or a testament to my faith not being real or not being strong enough. I just want the people in my life to understand that even if I get better even if I my depression and anxiety and stuff like that gets better than it will always be a battle I have to face and fight against. I wish they could see it the way I do
How are you holding up?
@@stevenchanda4039 taking everything day by day
@@neriahjohnson7875 Okay, that's great to hear and I'm really glad to hear that. Indeed mental health is important and mental health challenges are real even for a Christian.
Please if you feel the need to talk and pray together, I can give you my social media handle and we can be doing so.
May God continue strengthening and comforting you ❤️🤗.
@@neriahjohnson7875 Hello.
Guys, as a parent who got saved in the 80s and raised kids through the all the years as a Christian, please understand that we did the best we could. Remember, we come from a totally different generation where we were like you... stepping out trying to do things differently, especially in the faith. But you are right... God’s Word is always the place to go. He designs us to need each other too, be it what ever tools we need. No one is perfect.
So I just want to remind your generation that we parents are just people who have done the best we could do with what we had at the time. I’m grateful for anyone that has contributed to faith in my life.
I am praying for your generation and mine.
God bless you all.
Oh! And I saw a video today from a young preacher and depression. Look for Ben Courson. Awesome!
He’s so much greater than our trauma, depression, anxiety, sadness, illness.. hes so great.. he loves us so much. Amen ❤️
Then why convert people of other faith who has same issues telling jesus will heal
I'm so happy that you allow other's on your channel that are much smaller than you.without this video i may of never found her
Isn't he awesome to do this!? Seriously though, I'm so grateful, too. And thank you so much for checking out my channel I sincerely appreciate it!
This isn’t so much a religious issue than an education issue. My family’s rather secular, but my mother would say, “You’re doing it to yourself, you need to make yourself stop” or jumping to extremes that any medication is going to kill you, etc. It’s the lack of education + the taboo of being medicated.
Thankyou so much for this video. I dont know how i missed this video but i needed to hear it, saving this in a playlist i listen to when i am lost and sad.
Scott You are a blessing to me, your videos have been part of my journey of healing and rebuilding my life. I hope you will continue to post videos for as long as possible. Sending you a tiny bit of peace, joy and love as well as fun and blessings from my heart to yours, Dot
God delivered me from heavy mood swings, suicidal thoughts, deep depression, OCD. And my FAITH wasn't strong enough.....I was not in the word and these were familiar spirits that my family struggles with. He delivered me from something I didn't even know I could be delivered from. I tell you what, when I got on my knees crying I was DESPERATE and there was no doubt. It was do or die. Just putting it out there...Be careful not to lean on worldly knowledge. Lean on God. He will direct you and guide your path. I am SO GLAD I didn't listen to what the doctor's said I was. It's three years later and God told me who I really am in him.
Ok, riddle me this. Why is it that when I was at the lowest point of my life, depressed and constant suicidal thoughts, panic attacks weekly, a grossly homophobic family who I had to walk on eggshells around because of me being bisexual, and undiagnosed ADHD fucking me up daily, I didn’t have any sort of help when I got on my knees and prayed? I got better because I went to therapy and went to a doctor and get any mental disorder diagnosed. Was my suffering just not enough for god? If he is there to pick people up in their darkest hour, why is it that I didn’t get that and you did? Maybe your god is not as loving as you think. Or maybe god is wishful thinking by millions of humans throughout history, maybe he was imagined because humanity wanted an all-powerful guardian who would swoop down and rescue us. But he certainly doesn’t rescue everyone. So perhaps he is nothing but imagination in the minds of desperate humans.
So why doesn't this work for everyone? Sounds to me as if God picks and chooses who He wants to set free.
@@StoneyOfficialTV We are in the way a lot of times. I was for many years. My pride separated me from hearing his will.
@@elliefuller3667 I cried out to God and I meant it. These are great questions- you should ask God about them. There's no way someone like me could have an answer for you- if that's what you truly seek...
@@LizaLavolta You say "in the way" as if healing is something gifted to you if you do the right thing and work for it. That's ridiculous. A miracle is a miracle and doesn't come with conditions.
Many of our Bible heroes struggled with mental or emotional issues . I really believe that if we could truly believe who we are in Christ much healing would come, but the first order of business is to surrender to God, the second is to forgive, great video
Spot On... in my profession I have had the unfortunate experience of witnessing women who suffered withPost Partum Depression, and the families response being one of Praying more, or stating that mom was under demonic attack, some of these sadly came from the clergy some from “professionals”. Many churches have fallen into this heresy. Many lives have been lost, keep speaking about this. Too few have the courage to do so.
Hello there, my view can be perceived as quite controversial, but I am one of those that believe that ALL of the mental issues are spiritual issues in disguise. I have been recently diagnosed ADHD and it has been such a tremendous relief. All of sudden, everything makes perfect sense. Having intense and overwhelming emotions is very big part of ADHDers. As you can imagine, being emotionally unstable is looked down upon in the world BUT so in the church. I have been told by some Christians that I rely too much on my feelings and emotions and that faith is above how I feel.
However, people with mental illness don't get to chose how they feel on the particular day.
The Christian that is emotionally healthy might press forward on the day that he feels '' down " and than claim
I will NOT feel this way in Jesus name and then claim the victory in that area. But this is NOT the case for a Christian that suffers of a diagnosed condition. My emotions can be all over the place one day and then I am perfectly fine next.
I have been asking the Lord to remove all the symptoms of ADHD along with frequent mood swings and emotion disregulation and He hasn't so far. I have repented of every single sin there was, unforgiveness, you name it.
I will be going medication road and will be starting the meds next week for the first time.
I still have faith that the Lord can heal completely if it is HIS will, but in a meantime I need meds to function normally just like other people.
The bottom line is, being a Christian and suffering a mental illness can be a lonely journey and I have a first hand experience. If you need to go medication road to lead a fairly normal life and / or improve the quality of your life, then you should go for it. However, I am not solely relying on medications. My prayer to the Lord is, Father, I don't understand why I need to take meds when you can heal instantly, but I will be trusting you regardless. I ask that you cause the medications to work in my body they should and that no side effects will take place. Amen.
It says in the bible some demons dont come out that easy only with fasting and constant prayer . Honestly im one of those people to that think mental illness has something to do with demons and the spirit world. Alot of people might not know but fasting for the Lord is good and it liberates you from alot of temptations, sickness and other things ! When u fast start at 6 in the morning and u can do it for how much long u like until 3 until 4 until 6 until the next day let the Holy Spirit guide u and you will see !! In that time while fasting read the bible sing worship songs to the Lord and pray that whole day ! Dedicate that whole day to the Lord. God doesnt turn His back on the one who is constantly seeking Him and His presence ! Remember the woman that begged Jesus at the table to heal her daughter but He said He cant give what is for His people to the dogs but she persisted and He indeed Healed her daughter. Im not disagreeing either with the woman in the video i just think that sometimes God lets things happen so we can seek Him ! Sometimes He lets things happen so u can have faith and trust that He is Lord ! Depression i have learned is a demon ! It says so in isaiah 61:3 . It is the spirit of heaviness! What i have learned u have to recognize that it is a demon and call on the name of Jesus to be delivered. It may take time but trust in the Lord and He will show !
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@Night Demon So what about people that are so disabled that they act like babies their entire lives and they can't think normally? Are they that way because of spiritual problems?
Recommend checking out an inner-healing ministry.
AMEN. I'm teary reading this because I'm reading about someone else going through my experience. I keep hearing*keep your past in the past*. Yes,I'm not dwelling in the past. I can't just function and I've never been diagnosed,so I don't even know what is wrong with me. I just can't speak to my brethren again because I complain about how much I wanna die and I'll be told that I'm not done with my assignment;and I don't even know what that is. When I complain that others are preferred and not me; I hear die to self. When I say I'm depressed;I hear *whom the Son sets free is free indeed*. And lately I feel so invisible that it feels like God don't even see me. And I keep asking for forgiveness for envying a sister who is so dearly beloved and played with.
"I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me."(Philippians 4:13)With Jesus Christ in the heart you will find peace, nothing is impossible for God. "But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible."(Matthew 19:26) Go to Jesus Christ, pray to Him and you will find rest, God bless!😊
Prayed for more than 20 years, was a good Christian, did all I knew and believed. And when I hit absolute rock bottom after a suicide attempt, I realized that the biblical God doesn't exist and I became an atheist. Ever since, I've been happy. And some imaginary character had nothing to do with it. If there is a higher power it most definitely is not an ancient bronze age fable bullshit story.
@@sammysam2615 Why do you have to be so hateful and rude just because you choose not to believe?
Nobody is harming you personally or attacking you for your beliefs why do it to others'?
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@@gingerberry1472 I am glad you are not our counselor. ROFL.
@@gingerberry1472 He didn't talk to YOU personally, so why are YOU angry at HIM?
Oh my gosh Scott thanks for bringing her on, helping me!:) I subscribed to her channel!:) hugs
Thank you so much for this video!! God is love & God is glorious in our good & bad situations!! 😊💃🏝
I have PTSD and lots of anxiety and chronic depression thanks to bad situations while younger, while also having ADHD.
I don't think praying will do anything, nor will antidepressants, ADHD medicine or more. NOTHING WORKS DAMNIT!!
I have found that Euphoria Mushrooms Ashwagandha and Brahmi help with bad anxiety. I have also found that bach flower remedies have help me a lot with emotional problems. Hope this information help you in some way.
You seriously made me teared😞of your struggle and how some Christians try to teared us down for having emotional or mental problems and by making us feel less than how a so called"perfect Christian should be?!"Jesus Christ loves us for who we really truly are, God bless you for sharing. Be at peace always!❤🍷
Beautiful message. Thanks Scott for having Jo on! You're both beautiful people.
The church is not always so good at dealing with mental health or assault issues, Rick and Kay Warren at Saddleback Church are one of the ONLY churches I know who are really good at addressing mental health and the church, they are soo good! I hear you girl i hear you!! I can relate to you
For the good rick does he also has some weird doctrines.
Warren is a false teacher, stay away!
@@louiseleite3866 his son committed suicide and he's an advocate for raise awareness about this topic in the church.
Wow Rick W and his saddlebacj church are some of the most unchristian preachers an churches. It has a sweet and wonderful veneer but it’s a whitewashed grave. Take care.
My pastor and a lot of my christian friends do not know my trauma physical assault story or the other traumas, i told one university pastor and he went silent didnt respond on facebook or talk to me face to face about it... hes a great guy godly and loving but he did not come up to me to discuss it... i feel like he is struggling to deal with my trauma story and is hurting for me but cant seem to face me... its hurting me more cos i feel rejected!! Pastors dont know how to deal with assault or domestic violence well at all... they need training
Angel Flower
Wow.Not a prepared pastor at all.
Tell the Lord only and let Him heal you NO ONE HAS THE ABILITY TO HEAL SUCH A DEEP WOUND ONLY OUR LORD.Deuteronomy 22: 25,26
It's about rape and how God responds.Try this if you like or not up to you my dear...www.ChurchofGodMinistryofJesusChristInternational.com😊😗❤
Green Eyes Racy Fox theres a couple things i have empathy for one hes only 36 years old so a relatively young pastor and two i have feelings for him and he knows this but doesnt return them... its basically unrequited love/feelings and while we have both been mature about it and honest, hes not a very good facebook or text message/digital responder more the face to face kind of person although it still hurts he didnt reply. He has spoken to me since but not about the trauma topic and more hi etc, i know its awkward for him but he has no idea how hard it was for me to be vulnerable with him and tell him.. i feel he doesn’t yet realise his silence or not dealing with it, it causing me a great deal of pain. In hindsight though I did tell him i had saught trauma therapy and im all ok and managing etc and have friends, so maybe he thinks its not his place to help me because of the unrequited feelings etc. so complicated:-! I see him every sunday and at all weddings and social events... getting harder for us to avoid each other lol!
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The least he could have done was say im so sorry for what you went through and pray for you. You dont have to be a pastor to know how to sympathize with others What a coward.
I probably have/had depression. I wasn't diagnosed and when I tried to talk about the possibility I heard that "I don't have reasons to be depressed". I had problems with falling asleep and waking up, when someone was pointing out my faults I was having unbearable self-destructing thoughts and was thinking about harming myself. For a few years I couldn't even pray. Someday I decided to pray with my own words, because I had problems with my relationship with my fiance and I wanted to understand him better. I prayed a few days. God gave me possible solution and I accepted which was very difficult and changed my life. I said that I don't know everything and I trust Him. And than I was born again. He delievered me and gave me more than I imagined. I sleep better and wake up easier. I am happier, calmer and have much more energy. Maybe my problem was spiritual but I'm going to test if I could still be depressed and seek help with professionals. So I will advice people to pray, but I won't for sure also advice to try other possibilities. We have doctors and psychologists for a reason. But try out also prayer. With your own words, tell Him everything what's on your mind and in your heart. Why are you hurt your questions somewhere where you will be alone and in silence. Maybe you'll get help and answers you seek. If not, do everything you can to find help somewhere else or do this simultaneously. Good luck ❤
Depression and anxiety are common and they are symptoms. Symptoms of complicated issues that many people don't have insight into. The pills don't fix it. It's too bad that depression and anxiety are so ubiquitous that people often don't take it seriously enough.
Wow! Jo God continue to bless you. You explained this area so well.
I talked about my depression with a Christian group, and a girl there said she was on medication for anxiety, like I am...and she was prayed for and healed. I agreed to being prayed over and repeated the words and I ended up feeling worse. I was irritated and in my head it was comical. The second time being prayed over, I felt more calm, but their was a feeling of a “hole” in my heart/chest. I’ve dealt with mental health for awhile. It’s not that I don’t want to be healed...I agreed that “if it’s Gods’ will.” They said I have to “want it” to leave and that God wouldn’t want me to have the anxiety and depression.
Run from them
It's spiritual abuse!
U can pray to God yourself for healing. Every sickness is not healed. It's the way it is. I get blamed for my Illness!! I highly doubt Jesus is mad w us!
You can’t pray away a chemical imbalance in the brain. Those people should’ve referred you to a medical professional who was well equipped with knowledge and experience needed in combating mental illnesses. Sorry you had to go through what you went through.
I served as an assistant pastor until I got PTSD. I can tell you it's difficult for anyone without PTSD to understand what its like and that's unfortunate because they can come across harsh. Some Christians have experienced miracles and the power of God and were healed. Some needed medication and healed through a combination of things. So that is their stance and belief. My experience has been much like Jobs in that people just didn't understand but whatever we are going through I knew God is in control and there is a reason. It's been a year and what I can say is that I'm much more humble, compassionate, gentle and I'm not afraid of death anymore. I read the bible as if my life depended on it and I'm overcoming the condition. The word of God does heal you. I have used medication to cope and I didn't feel bad about it. It's a journey.
Wow. Thank you for this. I'm a Christian that had condemned myself over the years for recurring depression and finally went to a Christian therapist. When I confessed that I was struggling over needing to see a therapist, he responded, "As your brother in Christ, I'm simply discipling you." Wow. I had never equated discipling on that level! And the healing that God has brought about because of it is phenomenal!!!! ☺️
First of all let me say that I am sorry for what you went through. I am a christian minister and I suffer from depression. There is absolutely nothing sinful or wrong about suffering from this illness. And let me say that there is nothing wrong about needing medication in order to control it. I have been on antidepressants for many many years. I pray your faith is still strong after all of that.
I HAVE TRUST ISSUES, but I still depend and lean on God still. My real mother did drugs when she had me I’m literally messed up in the head, but I understand God has changed my heart and uses my mind to speak to me in all kinds of ways. There’s beauty in pain to all my people who have mental illnesses and physical problems. God uses the things we are insecure and hate about ourselves
I had severe childhood trauma. By 17 I was using drugs and by 21 I was a blackout drunk and drug addict. At 25 I got sober and am now 2 years sober. At 8 months sober God answered me and my entire life changed. He completely freed me from the drugs and alcohol. Im still heavy addict to masterbating even tho the porn is gone. Im miserable like 90% of the time and I cannot stop losing my mind about my relationship with God. I believe fully in Christ but I’m so mentally ill and messed up it’s basically a living nightmare. Life is way better now even tho the constant suffering. I just want Him to come back so this can be over.
That's exactly how I feel. Just come for me already and end this nightmare. 😭
Oh my God me too. And they say it's my fault. I let demons in. Which I did but I had very severe abuse as a kid. I'm in a group home. Oh it's so hard. And really, I've went to 5 ministries...
Help God! God did heal me from alcohol on a barstool but I back slid and now im king saul or something. Horrible
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I want to preference my main comment with this; I'm writing this as both a professional counselor and a pastor.
She's absolutely right about finding help outside of the church. I would only add, that her understanding is a little incomplete because God gives us gifts to help us. For instance, he said every good and perfect gift comes down from heaven above. Luke who wrote the Gospel of Luke was a physician,
And in terms of mental health, there are therapeutic modalities that absolutely fit the scripture. For instance, Romans 12:2 tells us to be transformed by the renewing of our minds. That is exactly what takes place in mental health counseling especially with CBT, DBT, and EMDR.
So while the scripture does not specifically name these methods of counseling, these methods are already in scripture they're just worded a little differently and don't have as much detail.
Another example is 1st or 2nd Corinthians chapter 11 which states, "you are not by us but you are hindered in your own bowels." Now that's old King James language which are modern way of thinking would interpret that as our GI tract but the original Greek New testament says that bowels means emotions or the seat of our emotions. I believe that the seat of our emotions is referring to the amygdala as well as the hippocampus, or possibly the limbic system as a whole. And anyone that's experienced trauma, as this young lady has, eventually comes to an understanding through counseling that certain things can trigger old memories which will in turn trigger the amygdala to produce fear and or anger about the abuse bekins often feel as though you are really experiencing the trauma all over. A friend recently asked me to counsel young lady that had been raped, but she just wasn't ready she was terrified at the thought of reliving the event.
So when it says we're hindered in our spiritual growth because of our emotions or seat of the emotions or the amygdala it's absolutely right on the money. Then going back to Romans 12:2 the way to grow and be healed is through transformation by the renewing of our mind i.e. through CBT DBT EMDR or through some other counseling modality.
Now combining that with scripture and the understanding that God is love and he wants to heal people, creates an environment of safety and security which is absolutely necessary for healing.
I hope this does not come across as criticizing anything she said because she's right on the money. However her understanding about not finding helping scripture is incomplete but that's understandable given the fact that most people don't know the original Greek or Hebrew language of scripture. Psalms 147:3 states that God heals the brokenhearted the word broken hearted means again those who are emotionally depressed have anxiety and who have been crushed etc.
If you know how to read the scripture and incorporate counseling modalities into scripture then you have the best of both. God gives counselors as a gift to humanity effectuate his healing for humanity.
Thank you this really helped me other than hearing my family say im a lost teenager that needs God
LaMarge I’m so glad I could help in any way. I’m sorry that all your family says is that...that hurts my heart to hear. You are so much more that “just a lost teenager”. Hang in there, you are not alone!
It’s both. Mental health resources are critical and medication can help. However there is a spiritual element at the core of mental illness which is ignored by clinicians and modern medicine which is what bridges the gap between treatment / strategies to manage and finding true healing. Sadly we are living in a time of strict materialism concerning medical treatment so it’s important to seek both physical and spiritual treatment independently. These things are not mutually exclusive
Truly amazing collab, thank you to both Scott and Jo
Of course, thank you Honor!
When I was a Jehovah's Witness the members told me and others the same things you were told. Prayer, scriptures, have more faith! and... you must have demons and done something wrong to invoke them. When I left that Religion to become a follower of Christ, same thing is happening all over again in the Christian community. Thank you for this video . I really agree with these thoughts.
Better to get away from religion, I did last year. You are just repeating the past JW and transferring that into Christians. I did the same thing, when you are abused you tend to repeat the past until you figure it out. I'm 54. It is hard but you can do it. Find hobbies, friends, and outlets that are not religious.
Yeah all Christians are basically softer version of Jehovah Witness
You are not [insert diagnosis]...you ARE fearfully and wonderfully made and in the image of God you were created. We all may have different challenges in this life but God is not mad at you, God is not punishing you and God has not forgotten you! Our condition in this physical life is for God’s glory and it is nothing in comparison with life in His kingdom.
God bless you. Keep growing in Jesus Christ. Keep seeking him asking him and relying on him. Keep praying to discern the will of God. Medication may help.
I'm so sorry that happened to you. That is nasty and not okay. Especially from a trusted person who's supposed to be safe. Complete breach of trust and worse. i want to give you a big hug.
YES!!! THIS IS SO AMAZING!!!! YES YES YES YES YES!!!! THANK YOU SO SO SO SO MUCH!
Thanks both of you for such a wonderful vid. It is the same problem in all faiths. Christianity is not alone handling depression in such a horrendous way. I grew up a Muslim, and I had been suffering from depression for many years before I plucked up the courage to see the shrink. That time, I was still at home & seeing a psychotherapist was something close to be entitled “CRAZY” and stigmatize the whole family’s reputation. I still remember when I would talk to my friends, most of them weren’t even good Muslims, about my problem, all used to say the same crap “Faith, Faith, Faith”. Now ten years later, out of home for good, still recovering from depression, seeing the shrink regularly, and living my own life .... & guess what!?! Never felt better like noawadays❣️
John 3:16
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16 For God so loved(A) the world that he gave(B) his one and only Son,(C) that whoever believes(D) in him shall not perish but have eternal life.(E) 🙏
❤❤❤ happy for You! :)
I experience anxiety from certain foods and preservatives, when my ferritin levels were super low, and malnourished. Diet plays a role so much. I thought i had demons because of the rage and anxiety for the longest time. I was mad at God for not fixing me. But He led me on a journey of learning how to heal which was better than the instant fix. It was hard but so valuable.
When I was young my parents made me take a summer long course where you would learn to cast out your “demons”. I had been trying to get them to get me help for years now, and to them this was this answer. When it didn’t work I was accused of not doing everything right, some other people didn’t understand why I wouldn’t just choose to not feel these “demons.” I found out years later that I have borderline personality disorder. My parents don’t believe me but it doesn’t matter, I’ve gotten better and they keep pretending that their faith is getting them through. It isn’t. Every time I talk to my mom she tells me how bad she’s doing and when I have to see my step dad it’s just the same old abusive, narcissistic behavior. To this day when people say they’ll pray for me I take it as an insult. If only cause they don’t even know if I’m Christian, it’s not appreciated.
Sorry to hear that. May be better for you to detach from them. Mental illness does run in families. My mom is really bad narc, I have had no contact for 10 years. She is manipulative, controlling, and horrible. Educate yourself on narcissism if you haven't already. But is sounds like you know some about it already.
Thank you for having her on as a guest. Her perspective was wonderful! Blessings to both of you! 🙏❤️✌️
She brought a lot of insight into this topic, one I don't know much about :)
I have dealt with depression since I was 12 (in 1975) and when I see videos like this I am grateful that my parents were moderate Catholics (partly, my mother was quite a skeptic). The never threw religion at me, and were very supportive.
I have had anxiety and cptsd since childhood. Fortunately I figured out at a young age how to read through the Bible yearly (12), and had a concordance and reading commentaries and theology books in high school. Also started studying bible and theology in college and even audited seminary courses. After that my husband and I went to the mission field after he finished seminary. Because being deeply rooted in scripture, I was able to take the “Christians shouldn’t struggle with mental health” with a grain of salt. I was sexually abused by 2 people in my family at a young age (one for years) and then sexually assaulted by a family member when I was older. The anxiety is now a physical problem in my neurochemistry. I see it as my thorn in the flesh. I do medicate.
Talking to people who think it’s demons or lack of faith can be frustrating. Deep study in the word can be your saving grace
I absolutely agree some issues are so deep seated,so profound inside, that faith works little by little especially when so wounded.FAITH WORKS.
It's in going to a therapist and psychiatrist that, not only have I received meds, great advice and support, but I've been able to share my faith and joy.
I fought with sin and depression came all the time. I was immersed in sin. Constant non-stop entertainment consumption and pornography where my masters and I would be constantly depressed. I needed freedom and I found it in Jesus and believing fully His Word. She might think she found the answers but it is a fact that she is worse off now without God than with her imagined faith. Her god was a figment of imagination, when God according to His love and mercy is able to do great things for those who earnestly seek Him with their whole heart. The fear of the Lord, is the beginning of wisdom, and knowledge of the Holy One is understanding. If she desired to seek God and fear and love Him. You would ask how this depression would come to pass. Sin can definitely lead us into deep depression. Please dont think bad of this, I'm being open and gut level honest. I was steeped in sin for decades, I didnt look for an answer the ways I should have. I found the first step for the path I need to take so I can find a way out of this pit. I started looking for wisdom in His Word. I as I searched I found out about "the fear of the Lord" I dismissed it for most of my life but I was desperate enough to try and believe it whole heartedly.
Only through the fear of the Lord did I have victory in Jesus Christ and immeasurable JOY!
FREE OF MY PERSONAL SLAVERY! SELF HATE, SUICIDAL THOUGHTS since I was a 13. I cannot tell you how I never thought I would overcome. My attachments to entertainment and pornography were a whole life to itself. I would go to church and pray for forgiveness every week every day. Nothing happened. Just self hate, and suicidal thoughts. Back then, way back in the day, folks had a fear of God, some took it to an unhealthy level because they did not read the Word of God and understand how, or who God is and were confused and did wrong to themselves and to others. But those who feared the Lord kept themselves from commiting atrocities. Pedophile priests or pastors for example. Priests have a twisted view of God's Word and think it is wrong to be married because they think you cant be faithful to God. For pastors living in sexual sin, it ONLY GETS WORSE.
As it is written:
James 1:14-16
14but each person is tempted when they are dragged away by their own evil desire and enticed. 15Then, after desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and sin, when it is full-grown, gives birth to death.
[Then we hear about cases that happen.
Like what happened to Joe. I'm very sorry that she experienced that.]
And regarding sexually immoral priests
As it is written:
For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done.
Romans 1:21-22, 26, 28 NIV
To keep us and the Church of Christ pure and healthy mentally and spiritually that is proven in the Bible and in me. I have absolutely no desire to go back and since then, my thoughts have been cleaner and rid of the amount of self hate I had throughout 10 years consistently. This is a lifetime BREAK THROUGH.
Proverbs 16:6
By mercy and truth iniquity is purged: and by the fear of the LORD men depart from evil.
Seek community. People who you know Love and obey Him in thoughts Word and deeds.
God gave us His Kingdom, His church. If there are others who aren't living in accordance to God's will or at least, are showing desire for it and humble in seeking it. Look for those who are and do. Lovers of Christ and His righteousness. You want those people in your life to help you get through those dark times.
As it is written:
Matthew 6:33
But seek first his kingdom and his righteousness, and all these things will be given to you as well.
God does not leave us without any resources. I have sought therapy all of my life. I was with an empty joy trying meditation, and art, (which I love) music and excersize but it was never enough to fill me.
Trust,Healthy Fear, and Love for the Lord by Obeying Him, and trusting in His promises confirms He is a truth teller and that the GOOD WORK He started in YOU HE WILL! CARRY IT OUT UNTIL COMPLETION! AMEN!!!
Thank you so much! I've been badly depressed since age 13, was 15 for my first suicide attempt. Thank you for helping me know what to listen for and ignore.
John 3:16
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16 For God so loved(A) the world that he gave(B) his one and only Son,(C) that whoever believes(D) in him shall not perish but have eternal life.(E) 🙏
i needed this today. thank you
I'm really glad :-)
Needed this after the shit that I had to deal with today.
Im a christian that suffers with depression and anxiety. I can defiantly relate. I will try to seek medical help again beacuse i feel like it really works for me. I pray that God can guide me to mental healing. I still haven't found why im this way i honestly have no reason to be depressed or anxious. But we live in a fallen world and we have to keep on living till God calls us.
Alex Santiago best of luck on your journey to find help my friend. I’ve been there, and am there. You don’t need a “reason” to be depressed or anxious - sometimes our brains just don’t work quite the same as others. It absolutely gets better. I hope that your faith and counselors will help you along the way to a better life. Hang in there, you are you alone. 💜
John 3:16
New International Version
16 For God so loved(A) the world that he gave(B) his one and only Son,(C) that whoever believes(D) in him shall not perish but have eternal life.(E) 🙏
Glad to see I wasn’t alone. I can’t reconcile my faith because I learned that if something didn’t help me then that is simple enough truth.
I bumped into this video because I purposely came searching exactly for this. Couldn't explain better. I have generalized anxiety and my aunts and mom are christian even me but I stoped going because of my mental health. They say it's my faith or when I tell them I worry they automatically say that I'm not putting everything in God's hands. They have said it sooooo much that I finally opened up to them its a chemical imbalance. Even explaining to them they question it. Told them I had to take meds but when I finally decided to get them I had to cancel them after like a month or so because of my insurance but hope to get back on them ❤❤❤❤❤..
I also keep getting the lines of " I think you stopped going to church because of so and so people. No one is perfect"
John 3:16
New International Version
16 For God so loved(A) the world that he gave(B) his one and only Son,(C) that whoever believes(D) in him shall not perish but have eternal life.(E) 🙏
Scrupulosity is characterized by pathological guilt about moral or religious issues. It is personally distressing, objectively dysfunctional, and often accompanied by significant impairment in social functioning.
have the symptoms of BPD is the worst when you are a Christian. You wonder everyday if God will forgive your failings that are caused by your illness. Sometimes i really want to do good and i do good but then a trigger happens and it can derail me for hours, days or even weeks or months if its bad enough. I'm afraid i will not be with Jesus for eternity because of these. I dont make it a crutch to do evil believe me, im just talking about the times i want to do good and my will isnt strong enough not when i willingly do sin.
This is my life right now!!!!
I know we spoke in the comment section of one of my videos but I'm really sorry for all the lines you've heard and that this is your life right now it sure sounds like it from what you said...please know that it is NOT a lack of faith to seek help, and it is not a lack of faith to be struggling, be depressed, or be suicidal. If you are struggling like that, it is so important to look for tools and find help, because it is out there for you, and I truly, 100% believe that God walks with us as we walk through such struggles!
Im Muslim and if you have idea you know how our religion works. Im so depressed that when I feel like doing something for me I remember this " this life is temporary, real life begins in the here after" and I lose motivation to do anything in present. I think a lot before shaking hands with strangers, wishing them on their festivals, feeling awkward that im muslim so I have to show my religious image more than who really I am. I was so so low and indeed prayers help but not the help I wanted, it is peaceful till im in prayer mat contemplating on god but I should get up and face my reality it shrinks me again. I thought im not a good believer I need to work hard so I tired to understand my scripture in easy language and trust me most of the phrase didn't get into my mind and it increased more questions in my head why how so and so. I also came across a quote by a scholar " If it is said, dont question it" and that hit me hard made me feel so worthless that im not agreeing on god and im being possessed by demon or something. Im glad my mind made me think that this might be more than demon n god and more mental illness coz of not being worth enough for god and landed to your video.
Thank you so much guys ❤️
oh no... it's not being demon possessed or being lack of faith. Sometimes it really just a physical sickness in the brain. God bless you and I pray that God leads you to the help and support you need with your mental health.
I've had pastors say that if you have Jesus in your life then you shouldn't be afraid of anything or have any sadness. As someone with generalized anxiety disorder AND Major depressive disorder, this was extremely painful and conflicting for me. I had never felt so much shame in my life.
Well, we should only fear God. As far as sadness is concerned, what your pastor said is a heresy. Jesus wept. Listen to the sermon „Do Not Surpress Your God Given Emotions“ by Derek Prince
This👌🏼wow I needed to hear this.
I have schizophrenia,and heard all the suggestions that the reason is not enough faith...
And,yes,that may feel discouraging,but i believe either that God IS the only answer.all other tools may work to stabilize the health,but true healing comes from the ONE who created us and who paid the price for our healing.
In HIS wounds we are healed.He took all our sufferings.if we can't believe that as strong as we want He is gracious ...but still HE is the source of my life and healing
Nothing is bigger than HIS love
and we can respond to that by our trust in Him,whatever we face...
Great video, she explained faith and mental health perfectly. There's a great testimony of a pastor named tommy Nelson from Denton bible church who got hammered by anxiety and depression. His story is on you tube
Thank you so much for this... This is where I’ve been for quite sometime.
Excellent ❤👍🙏 Fits me to a tee. Thank you!
I suffered PTSD servere depression had 21 shock treatments {ECT} faith wasnt strong strong enough I didnt really believe,and so was rejected by the church and alienated most of my life.i stuck with God on and off more off than on but God never left me I am now 60 and its taken so long lots of things helped no immediate miracles took discipline no psychiatrist or psychologist was ever any help.. Pastors and leaders gave up but not God
I was convinced if I went to anything except Jesus (I.e. pray, read the Bible, be with other Christians), then it was idolatry.
Turns out most of my “sin” issues were bc I was allergic to grains, needed to do yoga, mediate and get outside more. Oh, and stop believing in anything supernatural. 👍🏻
I’m a whole human these days. ❤️
John 3:16
New International Version
16 For God so loved(A) the world that he gave(B) his one and only Son,(C) that whoever believes(D) in him shall not perish but have eternal life.(E) 🙏
Thank you for sharing your experiences.
Yes! So many Christians are so out of touch with, or in denial of, their own trauma that they don't realise how it affects those who are either going through it, or have been through it when they give trite platitudes. I think this is one of the main reasons so many people have left the faith, which is sad since God is the God of compassion and the Psalms were written by someone who clearly wrote about the whole gamut of human experience and emotion due to experiencing it all himself. Sadly, there is much repression in the Church. I love the Church, but there is much that is very out of order and toxic. But I believe that even that, God can heal.
I’m not here to be antagonistic in any way, but sometimes hard questions are necessary to get to the root of the problem. Is there the slightest possibility that what we’re believing in is the source of our anxiety and depression?
Yes, in fact, I wholeheartedly believe there is enough evidence that depression and anxiety is linked to our thoughts and personal feelings. There's this popular belief among the Christian community that we are worthless by ourselves and must only have faith in God/Jesus alone. This right here can lead to emotional problems as we doubt ourselves and continue to rely on someone to save us than learning it may never happen.
John 3:16
New International Version
16 For God so loved(A) the world that he gave(B) his one and only Son,(C) that whoever believes(D) in him shall not perish but have eternal life.(E) 🙏
I was saved at age 12. but dealt with depression all my life and wondered what I was supposed to do because the Bible and Jesus was supposed to be the answer for everything. In 2012 I read a book call "Happy for No Reason" by Marci Shimoff (not a Christian book) and for the first time ever I woke up not depressed.
I agree! Thank you for this video!
This has blessed me so much! Thank you!! 🙏🏿