This. It's better to print an anime adaptation with a different name (if you can get away with it) than yo have to reprint Arsenal Summoner with another line of text. The fact that it's such an easy fix and a much less popular version of the card also helps.
Arsenal Summoner has a bunch of stupid restrictions because it ROTAs "Guardian" monsters, but it's not supposed to ROTA a bunch of incidental cards that were translated into "Guardian"s. Calling it "Guard" prevents it from being added to the stupid list. Now is that the definitive reason for the localization? idk edit: missed the answer above
MBT forgot that Evening Twilight Knight and Beginning Knight have effects to search any ritual monster and any ritual spell respectfully when banished from the graveyard.
It's really sad that Konami doesn't print more respectful cards nowadays. Now it's all just disrespectful searches, slur negates, passive aggressive board wipes, etc
Thank god Konami wisely balanced celtic guard of noble arms to immediately turn itself off. If it didn’t, your army of unstoppable celtic guardians would run away with the meta to this day.
It wouldn't be banned either, because in the AU I'm from where that did happen, in the effect text it says "Konomi can't ban this card" and as such Yugioh has been functioning with gentlemens Celtic bans to this day. Amazing how the community came together this way.
Interestingly enough from deck explanation there was a later Celtic guardian control list that won a tournament a couple years ago that was running the barrier statues along with every legal floodgate of course.
The worst part about super soldier is that u can only search it with gateway, some people argued that it’s better to play the very first literal Black Luster Soldier. U can search it and the ritual spell with pre-preparation of rites, and u just give it good effects with beginning knight and evening. I tested it back in the day and it was still jank, but slightly more consistant jank.
Since we’ve hit Breakers of Shadow, I hope that means we’re gonna see Dinomist in Jank soon. I’m very curious to see what pre-Howling lists looked like.
the first banish face down? have you forgotten format super threat lightforce sword all the way back from dark beginning in 2004. banish face down was with us from the beginning
Wow, Cimooo's deck was the closest thing we've had so far to a generically bad stun deck that just shoved in a couple of fun ofs to make the deck more interesting. There is a part of me that really wants to see Celtic Guard of the Noble Arms backed up by Noble Knight support
I really love how we are drawing paralels between duel links and jank, i've noticed this since the battlin boxer episode when the battlin boxer guy was released in duel links and now BLS is a meta deck and we have this episode
Ya. The back and forth was nice for this episode. Especially people putting cards like Imperial. And nice to see the mirror forces putting in their work.
Just in time, BLS is a tier 2 deck in Duellinks right now. Of course it is thanks to a busted skill that gives you Super Soldier ritual along with enough light and dark monsters in the graveyard to make your plays.
There mustve been something bugged with the deck shuffler in game 3 cuz i swear he used two duality, showed 2 mirror force both times, then drew into a mirror force, then demised and drew two more mirror forces
Correction, Begining and Twilight effects arent 1 or, are both, also, Begining is not destroy, is banish a monster on field and 2nd attack on destruction by battle So a BLS Ritual Summoned with them can banish 2 monsters from the field, banish a card in hand and if it destroys by battle, attack again in a row The last part, in a row, is rather restrictive, cause if you attack with another monster, it no longer can attack again Edit: also begining and twilight have aditional effects when banished, those guys are the swizz army knife of BLS rituals
master duel had a somewhat recent tryout duel mini-event where the BLS support seen here was by far the best deck in the format. i mean, it also had dragon link stuff in the deck, but it was still good on its own!
It was in RATE, not after (was only printed there and in the TCG only tins reprinting it thus far) which were 10 to 15 months (Feb '17) after the period he mentions, yes
Cimo: instantly uses card if Demise for one card at a time with full back row and discards maxx c. 2 of the most prolific draw cards ever printed, wasted. Cimo just turns later: I need cards! Hmm
“A card that actually does something” does cimo realise that Celtic guardian gives an insane amount of style points whilst simultaneously destroying your opponent psychologically?
I'm a bit confused about the celt'c guard deck's trap line up. Those are very cloggy by nature on a deck that depends on no hands. I feel like there might be better options. I know it's jank, or even meme but it's weird even by that standard.
So this is the Yami Yugi / Yugi Muto themed episode? 0:54 MBT's Deck: Black Luster Soldier - Super Soldier 5:14 actually you don't "reborn" it. You summon it from hand 5:45 Cimoooo's Deck: Celtic Guardian Control 10:35 Game 1 15:56 Game 2 24:14 MBT will never live this down 25:15 Game 3 26:45 Living up to his "Obnoxious" title
What sucks most is some of the really cool nostalgia bait lesser monsters I would gladly take more support for. Celtic Guardian would be really fun to make a whole deck around it and it's one of those cards all yugi-boomers know. It doesn't need to be top tier just playable at least. Some cards would be really fun to see full decks around.
I believe you cannot strike a summon from card effect such as a ritual spell. You can only strike special summons through game mechanic such as a synchro. Warning would have worked though.
"you cannot conduct your battle phase the turn you activate this effect" Envoy of the evening Twilight sure is a good card :) also obligatory reading comment
The Celtic Guardian deck actually has some synergy with some other warrior cards, like T.G. Striker, Claw of Hermos, and Goyo Guardian, giving them synchro playability and piercing. I had some fun mixing those together, but the problem playing them now is that they're too slow, lack protection, and so many dead draws.
I use Marauding Captain as my normal summon, then special Noble Arms, then special the OG Celtic Guardian. Or I just a say “screw it” and summon the earth barrier statue
@@Hurricane1990 Yup, have the barrier statue in there as well, as unless Earth is meta at that point, it has potential. Commander Knight and Blue Flame Swordsman also have some synergy as well.
We love our Dimension of Chaos to Shining Victories decks playing cards from the movie pack, Raging Tempest, and the Dark Illusion. There’s a ton of fun jank during this era I hope we see next week, but this felt like they just wanted to play goofy stuff
Ah, so THIS is the meta slaying monstrocity that gave birth to one of the most legendary formats of all time. That explains everything. Amd somehow also explains nothing, it's just that omnipotent.
Shorter video makes me think Celtic guardian is gonna trounce with a quick 2-0 victory. Fingers crossed 🤞 (Crying inside, lying to myself. Im just always too hopeful)
I like to think the BLS support is inspired by Superman. OG BLS is Earth-1. Super Soldier is Earth-2 BLS. (Colors!) Chibi BLS, Evening and Twilight, are Superman Red and Blue. Synthesis is baby BLS leaving Krypton. Envoy of Chaos is Superboy. Sacred Soldier could be revived supes after Doomsday.
Neither, Iron Wall just takes precedent. Nothing can be banished while it is up. The same applies to any effect that would otherwise require something to be banished. If something is special summoned and requires being banished when it leaves the field or at the end of the turn then it will just go to the graveyard or stay on the field instead since the banish cannot happen. Same applies to a card like Bottomless which destroys and then banishes. The summoned monster will be destroyed but will go to the graveyard on resolution because it can't be banished.
I think my favorite part of this episode is that he skipped a draw off noble arms, which was 100% game determinative because he was 1 card away from obnoxious. Very funny
Bro all of the super soldier effects stack lol you can banish 2 monsters a card from the hand and attack twice. This deck was so fun in true Draco format gamecieling a master peace and otking easy! If only it was consistent
The real issue with the the Black Luster Soldier archetype has very little to do with lack of recursion, as MBT didn't really utilize a lot of its recursive effects, and the protection it had at the time was not above average but not terrible either. The main issue is that it's linear since the archetype is all focused on beating down monsters and doesn't punish backrow. If the cards could banish any card it would've probably fixed most of its issues.
agree also the rituals BLS should get destruction and targeting protection from using the chibi BLS. Not to mention their negating trap should be a searchable judement omni negate, its an old style ritual deck, at least give them something!
Can't believe Cimo is making such rookie mistakes. Siding in Feral imp games two and three is a key play when using a Celtic guardian deck.
You can’t do that, that’s against the rules
@@Poppipowerno it’s definitely allowed
How was your comment made 1 day ago?
@@absolutionveil8632patreon!
@@absolutionveil8632😂wow I didn’t notice til I read that
finding out it’s obnoxious celtic guard and not guardian is my first experience of mandela effect in my life
I think they call him "Obnoxious Celtic Guardian" in the anime... that, or I'm also experiencing it.
@@WhoIsSirChasmit is indeed called Obnoxious Celtic Guardian in the anime, why they changed it for print I'll never know
@dannyharrell4818 it's because of the flip monster who searches guardian monsters
This. It's better to print an anime adaptation with a different name (if you can get away with it) than yo have to reprint Arsenal Summoner with another line of text. The fact that it's such an easy fix and a much less popular version of the card also helps.
Arsenal Summoner has a bunch of stupid restrictions because it ROTAs "Guardian" monsters, but it's not supposed to ROTA a bunch of incidental cards that were translated into "Guardian"s. Calling it "Guard" prevents it from being added to the stupid list. Now is that the definitive reason for the localization? idk
edit: missed the answer above
Celtic Guardian Format. Never in all of my years did I think I would see the man himself have his moment to shine.
MBT forgot that Evening Twilight Knight and Beginning Knight have effects to search any ritual monster and any ritual spell respectfully when banished from the graveyard.
I think he also forgot that their inherited banishes stack. If you use both, you can banish TWO monsters from the field
They don't read what do you expect
It's really sad that Konami doesn't print more respectful cards nowadays. Now it's all just disrespectful searches, slur negates, passive aggressive board wipes, etc
Thank god Konami wisely balanced celtic guard of noble arms to immediately turn itself off. If it didn’t, your army of unstoppable celtic guardians would run away with the meta to this day.
And people say Konami doesn't balance this card game.
It wouldn't be banned either, because in the AU I'm from where that did happen, in the effect text it says "Konomi can't ban this card" and as such Yugioh has been functioning with gentlemens Celtic bans to this day.
Amazing how the community came together this way.
IF HE IS A SUPER DOOPER SOLDIER, I SHALL FIND A WAY TO BECOME A SUPER D-TOOPER SOLDIER!
Team three star?
Vegetaaaaa I’m haunting you
How did you know about the parts you weren’t there for?
Really hoping this brings some much deserved exposure to Celtic Guardian format
There’s a format!?!?!! He’s my favorite card of all time.
@@JohnnyVasquez8it's a joke format where only Celtic guardian is legal. 40 Celtics vs 40 Celtics.
sounds like great fun @@renownerd.276
@@renownerd.276lol it’s actually only feral imps allowed
Interestingly enough from deck explanation there was a later Celtic guardian control list that won a tournament a couple years ago that was running the barrier statues along with every legal floodgate of course.
The worst part about super soldier is that u can only search it with gateway, some people argued that it’s better to play the very first literal Black Luster Soldier. U can search it and the ritual spell with pre-preparation of rites, and u just give it good effects with beginning knight and evening. I tested it back in the day and it was still jank, but slightly more consistant jank.
Senju / Manju are still a thing.
Certified LukeVonKarma moment
10:28 this episode is brought to you by skyrim loading screens
thank god MBT realized that synthesis can summon from grave
Cimo finally playing the culmination of his favorite archetype: A bunch of monsters which might as well not matter + a boatload of floodgates.
Since we’ve hit Breakers of Shadow, I hope that means we’re gonna see Dinomist in Jank soon. I’m very curious to see what pre-Howling lists looked like.
CImo's deck is 39 Feral Imps short of being legal in Celtic Guardian Format.
the first banish face down? have you forgotten format super threat lightforce sword all the way back from dark beginning in 2004. banish face down was with us from the beginning
Lightforce Sword was from PSV.
Dark Beginnings was a reprint set which covered the first 5 sets. PSV was the fourth set.
Can't wait for the Feral Imp of the Celtic Guard card released this winter!
1:04 Thanks for mentioning the time period. As someone who didn't play back then it's sometimes very confusing when Jank episodes happened.
Wow, Cimooo's deck was the closest thing we've had so far to a generically bad stun deck that just shoved in a couple of fun ofs to make the deck more interesting. There is a part of me that really wants to see Celtic Guard of the Noble Arms backed up by Noble Knight support
Its the 1 of feral imp in the sideboard that really pulls the Celtic Guardian deck together
We needed Danny and Peeps for this episode with a Celtic Guardian vs Feral Imp deck
00:55 Deck List / Breakdown
11:25 Duels
I really love how we are drawing paralels between duel links and jank, i've noticed this since the battlin boxer episode when the battlin boxer guy was released in duel links and now BLS is a meta deck and we have this episode
A few formats ago I built a Celtic Guardian deck with the earth Barrier Statue as a payoff.
Celtic Guardian? Now we're playing with REAL jank!
My favorite generation of Jank!
I love finding new ways to make these decks work!
Ya. The back and forth was nice for this episode. Especially people putting cards like Imperial. And nice to see the mirror forces putting in their work.
In the words of the great philosopher Ruggles, “what do you do? ……”
Me: Looks at decklist.
Me: Where is feral imp?
Me: Look at side deck.
Me: There you are.
I am actually so hype that a Celtic Guardian deck is being played. Celtic Guardian is my favourite monster of all time
10:29 Alex invites you to duel as the void slowly comes to take you
(That actually spooked me lol)
Just in time, BLS is a tier 2 deck in Duellinks right now. Of course it is thanks to a busted skill that gives you Super Soldier ritual along with enough light and dark monsters in the graveyard to make your plays.
2016 and we got vanilla Celtic Guard at 3, Gaia the Fierce Knight, and OG BLS.
😅 I love history of jank.
It is very simple actually; I see any version of Celtic Guardian on the thumbnail, I click the video.
It’s funny that this BLS deck is all over ladder in duel links right now
It's always funny to watch stun decks struggle to apply any pressure and eventually lose.
There mustve been something bugged with the deck shuffler in game 3 cuz i swear he used two duality, showed 2 mirror force both times, then drew into a mirror force, then demised and drew two more mirror forces
Correction, Begining and Twilight effects arent 1 or, are both, also, Begining is not destroy, is banish a monster on field and 2nd attack on destruction by battle
So a BLS Ritual Summoned with them can banish 2 monsters from the field, banish a card in hand and if it destroys by battle, attack again in a row
The last part, in a row, is rather restrictive, cause if you attack with another monster, it no longer can attack again
Edit: also begining and twilight have aditional effects when banished, those guys are the swizz army knife of BLS rituals
master duel had a somewhat recent tryout duel mini-event where the BLS support seen here was by far the best deck in the format. i mean, it also had dragon link stuff in the deck, but it was still good on its own!
The Super Soldier deck looks like fun jank with the additional Gaia support from Rise of the Duelist.
its light and day how much fun they have in this and how little they have in history right now lmao
Didn't Synthesis come out after Raging Tempest, which took place like way after the sets and banlists Joseph described?
Like that was Zoo format
It did I think they didn't realize it unless this deck was ocg but then again rt didn't come out during that time eithed
It was in RATE, not after (was only printed there and in the TCG only tins reprinting it thus far) which were 10 to 15 months (Feb '17) after the period he mentions, yes
Cimo: instantly uses card if Demise for one card at a time with full back row and discards maxx c. 2 of the most prolific draw cards ever printed, wasted.
Cimo just turns later: I need cards!
Hmm
"You can play barrier and fossil dyna just a thought"
True but the disrespect and based strat is better
I do hope Graydles make an appearance. First deck I ever built when I started playing
“A card that actually does something” does cimo realise that Celtic guardian gives an insane amount of style points whilst simultaneously destroying your opponent psychologically?
Game 1 10:36
Game 2 15:55
Game 3 25:15
Featuring Dave (Celtic Guardian)
Alex: How are you doing this under anti spell?
also Alex: Oh so your monster isn't the atk I thought it was in that case let's go back 4 moves
If Alex would won the episode, this would be a legendary duel.
I still really enjoy it, very fun episode.
Macro and imperial iron wall in the same stun list. Amazing.
Cimo should put some celtic guardian cards in his mirror force deck
I'm a bit confused about the celt'c guard deck's trap line up. Those are very cloggy by nature on a deck that depends on no hands. I feel like there might be better options. I know it's jank, or even meme but it's weird even by that standard.
So this is the Yami Yugi / Yugi Muto themed episode?
0:54 MBT's Deck: Black Luster Soldier - Super Soldier 5:14 actually you don't "reborn" it. You summon it from hand
5:45 Cimoooo's Deck: Celtic Guardian Control
10:35 Game 1
15:56 Game 2 24:14 MBT will never live this down
25:15 Game 3 26:45 Living up to his "Obnoxious" title
Fun fact: Did you know BLS is currently a top tier deck in Duel Links thanks to a Skill that recycles Super Soldier Ritual every turn?
I remember this having a barrier statue in it
“This is Yugioh as Kazuki Takahashi intended”
- MonoBlueTron
Fun fact: We banished cards face down way before 5D’s, but I’m not sure if we started it in DM or GX
D.D Capsule baybay!
@@Caradin316Lightforce Sword 3 sets earlier, you mean.
No if i meant lightforce sword i would have said it. I meant D.D Capsule.@@RunicSigils
Every once in a while, you should consider doing an episode in master duel now that you're advancing to current erratas/rules
Why?
@@ryleynadhir4685 Variety, just for viewer entertainment if a format works the same there.
Banlist?
Nah, save that for another series.
This episode was a lot of fun. Thanks for the episode, guys.
What sucks most is some of the really cool nostalgia bait lesser monsters I would gladly take more support for. Celtic Guardian would be really fun to make a whole deck around it and it's one of those cards all yugi-boomers know. It doesn't need to be top tier just playable at least. Some cards would be really fun to see full decks around.
Theres a really good Celtic Guard list I have saved that uses Barrier Statue of the Drought. Idt its that powerful but it was really cool
We need to have someone edit in captain America’s theme from marvel 3 to make this slightly more bearable
at 34:00 couldnt Cimo Solemn Strike the special summon of Super Soldier?
I believe you cannot strike a summon from card effect such as a ritual spell. You can only strike special summons through game mechanic such as a synchro. Warning would have worked though.
This is why Cimoooo is the protagonist
10:28 Minor editing mistake. I WIN.
MBT plays around mirror force challenge: IMPOSSIBLE
"you cannot conduct your battle phase the turn you activate this effect"
Envoy of the evening Twilight sure is a good card :) also obligatory reading comment
I’m traditionally team MBT, but man I was pulling for Cimo hard in this one.
Joseph literally read twilight and evening night half way through NOT READING the graveyard effect and said fuck It we ball
29:17 Does Joseph not get to banish two monsters since Super Soldier was made with both knights.
We have now reached the point where HoJ is overlapping with early Table 500 decks, and I am absolutely here for it
The Celtic Guardian deck actually has some synergy with some other warrior cards, like T.G. Striker, Claw of Hermos, and Goyo Guardian, giving them synchro playability and piercing. I had some fun mixing those together, but the problem playing them now is that they're too slow, lack protection, and so many dead draws.
I use Marauding Captain as my normal summon, then special Noble Arms, then special the OG Celtic Guardian.
Or I just a say “screw it” and summon the earth barrier statue
@@Hurricane1990 Yup, have the barrier statue in there as well, as unless Earth is meta at that point, it has potential. Commander Knight and Blue Flame Swordsman also have some synergy as well.
We love our Dimension of Chaos to Shining Victories decks playing cards from the movie pack, Raging Tempest, and the Dark Illusion. There’s a ton of fun jank during this era I hope we see next week, but this felt like they just wanted to play goofy stuff
Ah, so THIS is the meta slaying monstrocity that gave birth to one of the most legendary formats of all time. That explains everything. Amd somehow also explains nothing, it's just that omnipotent.
Shorter video makes me think Celtic guardian is gonna trounce with a quick 2-0 victory. Fingers crossed 🤞
(Crying inside, lying to myself. Im just always too hopeful)
I like to think the BLS support is inspired by Superman.
OG BLS is Earth-1.
Super Soldier is Earth-2 BLS. (Colors!)
Chibi BLS, Evening and Twilight, are Superman Red and Blue.
Synthesis is baby BLS leaving Krypton.
Envoy of Chaos is Superboy.
Sacred Soldier could be revived supes after Doomsday.
Gaia is Clark Kent
I think Noble Arms is meant to synergize with Swift Gaia as well.
Did Cimooooo really pick Maxx C with both Macro and Demise in hand? xD
I'm surprised Cimo passed up the chance to play BLS again
one of the ritual djinn monsters protects from traps. I usually teched it in and it helped a lot.
the kirito deck might be jank but its soo fun to play
Now i get way Konami allows all flodgates nowadays: Even Celtic Guardian can win a set when playing then. : )
So, fresh me up: what happens if both Macro and Iron Wall are activated? Which one will blow up?
Neither, Iron Wall just takes precedent. Nothing can be banished while it is up.
The same applies to any effect that would otherwise require something to be banished.
If something is special summoned and requires being banished when it leaves the field or at the end of the turn then it will just go to the graveyard or stay on the field instead since the banish cannot happen.
Same applies to a card like Bottomless which destroys and then banishes.
The summoned monster will be destroyed but will go to the graveyard on resolution because it can't be banished.
Is it really a real Celtic guardian deck if it isn't maxed out on Feral imp?
Is this Celtic Guardian playable with phantom hand?
I think my favorite part of this episode is that he skipped a draw off noble arms, which was 100% game determinative because he was 1 card away from obnoxious. Very funny
Cimo should have played terrortop, the terrortop engine is sick in that deck. :3
Shame on Cimo not knowing why Feral Imp is in the extra deck. It is the lynchpin of the deck
Do they not know you can just use more warrior r4nk 4 main deck cards instead of the clogs and anti synergy cards? Cimoooo i mean obvs
Bro all of the super soldier effects stack lol you can banish 2 monsters a card from the hand and attack twice. This deck was so fun in true Draco format gamecieling a master peace and otking easy! If only it was consistent
Sometimes cimo has a thumbnail that demands your attention. Like what is celtic guard of noble arms gonna do?
I'm just starting the games, but if Cimo doesn't side into Feral Imp I'll lose it
This somehow felt like more of an affront to God than the last episode.
I keep hearing rata going super soldier soldier soldier
Happy 2 years of jank bois!
The real issue with the the Black Luster Soldier archetype has very little to do with lack of recursion, as MBT didn't really utilize a lot of its recursive effects, and the protection it had at the time was not above average but not terrible either. The main issue is that it's linear since the archetype is all focused on beating down monsters and doesn't punish backrow. If the cards could banish any card it would've probably fixed most of its issues.
agree also the rituals BLS should get destruction and targeting protection from using the chibi BLS.
Not to mention their negating trap should be a searchable judement omni negate, its an old style ritual deck, at least give them something!
Ah yes Soldier Luster Soldier - Soldier Soldier Soldier vs Feral Imp
Really enjoyed this episode! Thanks guys
10:04 caught me off-guard xD
Steve Rogers Super Soldier sleeves.
Sounds like MBT is going to be Captain America on this episode.
the most master duel hand of all time, maxx c draws another maxx c