Most civilisation is based on cowardice. It's so easy to civilize by teaching cowardice. You water down the standards which would lead to bravery. You restrain the will.
@@oddish2253 I'd argue that cowardice is the intended result of habitually shaming people, both in society and in private or work or really any relations. It's how authoritarian rule becomes unquestioned.
This Legal system is a total joke, and is inhumane to the extreme. I was released from Japanese custody last week (Charges were dropped by Japanese court.). The Japanese Justice system is not justice at all, it is all based around confessions, intimidation,cultural shaming and perceived remorse. People from where I live (U.K) and across the western world take a look at Japan’s crime stats on a piece of paper and say yep the Japanese are doing it right And we should implement their system. Not knowing how many holes there are in their system and what a disaster it would be. confessions are judged as the king of all evidence within Japan... which is reflected through all of the draconian practises the Police, prosecutor’s, Courts and the system in general use relentlessly to obtain it. They start from the second you are within their custody there is No access to an attorney during interview. The interview is not recorded. Up to 36 hour long police interrogations which are conducted with you tied up to the chair with no food or sleep. You will be screamed at, insulted, threatened, humiliated and physically abused. After this stage people are then put into a detention centre within the police station. This is 4 walls a floor and a hole in the ground for shitting. Welcome to your new home that is big enough to fit 4 people but has 6 in. You have no furniture or bed. The temperature will be so cold that you go into survival mode. You are unable to speak to anyone within your cell. English is not allowed to be spoken. You are fed on 1300Cals a day. You don’t see sunlight or go outside. You are unable to see, hear or have communication with your family. Access to BASIC medication, such as treatment for Severe diarrhoea or severe vomiting will be purposefully restricted unless you are actually dying. This period lasts 23 days at least, all the while to police and prosecutors are ‘working’ on a case to bring forward to a judge. In reality, they are doing all they can to psychologically and physically break you into confession. Once they have this it is looked at as the grandest piece of evidence and you will be behind bars and become one of the 99% of other people.
Anti Dote thank you so much! I didn’t want to go into too much detail about all of the brutalities so I just tried to give a clear summary of the way things unfortunately work. It saddens me that the culture I loved so much from the outside, can be so badly broken from the inside.
uegvdczuVF uegvdczuVF I had 4 Pain killers in rucksack for a sustained injury. I was told that they can detain me in case it was something such as Meth tablets (?!?) Once the lab test showed it was clearly not an illegal narcotic, they then tried to make me sign a written statement in Japanese confessing to an Importation charge. I admire the Japanese lady who represented me. without her, I would not of been able to gather all the evidence needed to have all charges dropped. Even though I knew inside I didn’t do anything to warrant the treatment I got, I was near a point of signing the confession statement to just at least get certainty, and to write to my family (which can only be done once you are found guilty and moved to the “Proper” prisons if that makes sense...)
@@rr212 technically you did do something illegal. Under Japanese law bringing in even one aspirin counts as importing controlled drugs. I just wanted to point that out for anyone traveling to Japan. While they will probably let you off with a warning, as the OP found even without technically being found guilty, and he may not have even been formally charged, they can do a lot to you. As far as implementing the Japanese legal system, you really can't do it without the Japanese culture. As the Japanese culture dies the legal system will become a much worse problem and I don't know if they will adapt in time.
@@arfnore And you are proving him that by writing comment on website that is banned in Iran and freely accessible in US. I would say that US is less free since all that “mah national security” policies put in action after 9/11, but for someone saying unironically “no, not Iran, it’s totally USA” and publishing it without hindrance for American audience to see, is kind of hypocritical.
@@stafer3 if I could understand what you are saying I would reply in detail. Anyway, I would point out that the only people who are truly free in the USA is wealthy people (about 10% of the population). Poor and middle income people are seen as a threat to the rich and, therefore have to be controlled. This is done mainly through social and cultural manipulation. For example, poor white people in, say, West Virginia consistently vote in politicians who advocate policies detrimental to them for no other reason than cultural affiliation with one political party. Such tactics can hardly be described as " freedom".
Japan's police have also been accused of classifying any unsolved homicides as a suicide. By contrast UK and US have countless unsolved homicides every year.
@//Cassiopeya Plus\\ Well, they definitely have a lot of reasons for that. For one suicide is in Japan's culture. It's known that often Japenese people commit suicide to avoid shame. Also as was stated in the video their society has such a large emphasis on work, most people work in an office for 10 hours a day and even live in tiny apartments closer to their jobs rather than live with their wives and kids or other family. Meaning they are often lonely and obviously depressed as anyone would be working a job they hate only to give money to people they rarely even see.
@@jasoncarswell7458 There are no serial killers in Japan. Never have been. Never will be. That is all. Since they don't officially exist, the Cops don't officially look for them. Unsolved death = suicide = private matter = no press coverage. Bodies found all over town, official silence. Almost like the government wants the string of killings to go on unabated...Cops in Japan don't get to kill folks, so not catching killers does the same thing, eh?
The conviction rate is the reason Pheonix Wright always has to not only prove his client innocent but to also find and prove the guilt of the real culprit.
@@cokebear1337 I wish it was on the list, but it's really not. The plea bargain system alone makes that false. There are far more than a few though. So it's not all bad news.
_"Prosecutors only bring cases to court when they are sure the suspect is guilty."_ will invariably become: _"The suspect must be guilty because the prosecutors have brought it to court!"_ Why even go through the charade of a trial if conviction is near certain?
@@treck87 Are you implying that the amerikan system is betta? laughs in Epstein..... There is no perfect system, any online game balance will have its problem until the next balance. The judicial system makes any updates for any reason within what time frame? Is any judicial system even trying?
@@laychyetan7466 That is BS, it doesn't matter that there are flaws in other systems. One has to adress the issues in front, not point at others and claim it pointless. Also, I don't like calling people on grammar but your words make little sense, even for the internet.
I got robbed in Shinjuku last year. The police didn't want me to report it as a crime, insisting for hours that I report it as merely a loss. I finally caved when they said that if I didn't play along, my Korean friend, who was also robbed, wouldn't be able to get an emergency passport (which turned out to be false).
I also was robbed by a young lady who was a kleptomaniac and when her parents found all the stolen purses and wallets in her room and made efforts to return them, the police made me sign a paper saying I wouldn't press charges because the family made efforts to return my wallet to me...ok, but what about all the money she stole out of it and then all the fees I incurred getting a new residence card, bank card, and the like? grumble grumble. But I guess now hearing about the system in more detail, I see why her parents were trying to avoid it.
I feel like a lot of people forget that Japan is usually on the wrong side of history like how they where allies with the nazis and shit like maybe people should stop looking up to the country like they have their shit all figured out lol
@@Industry-insider there's something to be said for Japan's almost pathological concern for 'face'. Which is that even when you know the image is a lie, not everyone does. So it works.
It reminds me of the movie Hot Fuzz. The tiny, seemingly idyllic village hasn't had a crime in 20 years. But that's only because the villagers murder anyone who commits a crime and makes it look like an accident...
My kids were friends with a Japanese exchange student and she was doing everything in her power to not return to Japan. She hated it there. That was almost 20 years ago and I understand that she is quite happy living in St Louis and working in a bank. It was very interesting lasting to her.
@@ginxxxxx Dear gin: As an American, I feel that the Japanese legal system is none of my business. If the majority of Japanese citizens want to go along with this, then who am I to say that it's wrong ? Since 1500, White Christian Europeans and their descendants have destroyed cultures around the world and tried to replace them with "superior" European beliefs. I see this video as just the latest step in that direction. People in the West just don't understand that not everyone in the world defines "freedom" in the same way that they do. ... jkulik919@gmail.com
@@BarginsGalore You know Japan pretty much sent every last man to war at the end of ww2 right? 80 year old man is probably unlikely to be in the war but as much as 86 it would have made it possible to be drafted. Plus they had similar structures like H-youth in Germany back then.
I once read a fascinating book on the Yakuza and their very existence, to this very day, is predicated on the way the justice system works. In Japan, the severity of the crime of which you're convicted doesn't matter; once convicted, you're a permanent member of the underclass. Part of the reason for recidivism in any society is the inability of the ex-con to go straight because no one will give them a chance. In my country the U.S., it's due primarily to a lack of trust, a lingering presumption of guilt. In Japan, hiring a "criminal" is shameful; if you consort and support "those people," you are considered the same as them and knowing how "those people" are forced to live, no one wants that for themselves and their families. It would be not only a black mark on one's family name, but would bring rebuke from one's ancestors. The ONLY recourse for such castoffs, the only way to make ends meet, is to fully join the criminal subclass. After all, if no one will let you earn an honest living, your only other option is a dishonest one.
This has been the norm in the older generations but in the last 10 years, the prevailing views have changed a lot. Mostly led by the younger generations in Japan. Slowly they will enter politics and the system will improve further.
Joshua Moore Yeah pretty much. I dated a girl whose family (many generations prior to her) had been run out of Japan by the Samurai for their ties to the Yakuza. Granted, from what I understand they were not simply cooperating with the group, rather, heavily involved in it's functioning, but nonetheless, it's why her family is in America.
Just like being arrested in some countries, you get filed into the system forever no matter the accusation and that record will haunt you for the rest of your life.
illwitness the japan judiciary system was created to mirror United States , many modern japan culture were created by Americans after ww2 , for example Japanese work culture was created by Americans
@@m.richards6947 It is true that most trials don't get to court in the USA, but those who are truly innocent definitely have a good chance of getting their innocence proven if they do insist on taking it to trial. That is why prosecutions fight so hard to get confessions and plea deals in the first place in the USA, because they usually know pretty well that they are unlikely to convict beyond a reasonable doubt in the majority of cases. Where in Japan, you may be far less likely to be charged with a crime in the first place - since they want to avoid getting embarrassed on their end - but once you are charged, say goodbye to any chance of actual justice or due process. I wonder if it is better or worse for foreigners like myself who visit Japan, because on the one hand we would stick out a lot more, but on the other hand Japanese individuals are significantly less likely to want to deal with us because the risk for trouble is much greater.
@@echomjp depends on your race, where the crime happened, and/or who you are for the United States. A white female cop in Texas walked into a black males apartment and killed him because she thought it was her own apartment. She got man slaughter and a hug from the judge who sentenced her.....
@@Turshin I'm not denying that such circumstances happen, of course. But they are far from being the norm. We have literally millions of people in prison in the USA, and for every person in prison we have countless others who do not end up there who interact with police or our justice system. While I think our justice system needs a lot of reform, it at least gives you a fair shot at something other than a mockery of a trial. Needing police reform and accountability is related obviously to the larger issue of justice. Edit: As others responded, intimidation tactics being used by law enforcement alongside public defenders being criminally underfunded and worked to their limits definitely are other issues that need to be dealt with.
I've been thinking about this. Whatever you do, if your orders are wrong ethically, you're fucked. "Don't follow orders you think are ethically wrong" yeah my ass. You're fucked if you follow them and then you lose. You're fucked if you don't follow them, even more if you win. So between being fucked for sure and maybe being fucked, I would follow orders too.
This is the most striking theme that I took away from two years in Japan. In an effort to save face, there is a stunning amount of rot hidden below the surface.
I dare to think what’ll happen over there if the whole thing comes crashing down around them if they don’t AT LEADT TRY to fix thing from the ground up.
Daniel Whyatt it already came crashing down on them. The companies/government felt such a rapid need to grow, that if they weren’t growing at tremendous rates it would be a loss of face. This caused companies to over leverage themselves to a very high extent. Almost 30 years of stagflation ended up being the result. Stagflation caused a high level of depression. Depression combined with Japan’s suicide culture.... well it hasn’t been pretty.
I've always been skeptical of the universal praise that Japan often receives and critical of a culture that declares the state infallible. It's our duty to question systems around us in order to better them and the society they are intended to serve, blind obedience never got anyone anywhere.
Well, when you couple this what the fact that there’s a noteworthy faction in Japanese government angling for historical revision regarding what Japan did as a nation to the rest of Asia during World War II, it says a lot about where the nation is at this point. You could even make an argument about how bizarre its culture and media can appear to outsiders being a reaction to the at-times stifling nature of its society. China isn’t exactly a shining paragon of justice either, just like how this country isn’t exactly what it advertises itself to be.
@@anonb4632 Well it's the responsibility of the people to remind every nation that their disgusting past exists, and that they must acknowledge and apologise for their history.
That judge that sentenced the innocent man to be executed sounds really weak. How can you send someone to die knowing full well they are innocent. For a culture that takes pride in honor and their ancient warriors that whole sentiment of never speaking up against injustice sure sounds really cowardly.
MinecraftPro15 Isnt it only honorable to commit seppuku if you were unloyal to your own group or fucked something up for them? like if he freed the guy and got fired for that? He likely didnt feel any responsibility for the man he had convicted
@MinecraftPro15 Seppuku is an archaic barbaric practice, and is seen as such to modern Japanese, because they're not the lunatics they were back in the 1700's
Has Japan really "handled" its homeless problem? When I was there in the early 90s, it was a verboten subject. Homeless people were basically ignored and weren't counted. In their minds, at the time, they had no "homeless problem". When I was there, I didn't see many, but those that I did were sights that will stick with me for the rest of my life... :/
@ you have the problem backwards. The homeless in Japan are not a problem, not Japan doesn't have a problem of homelessness. Out of the sixty or eighty homeless I saw downtown near major tourist spots (on one trip) only one tried beginning from me. They don't leave trash and will actually pick up other people's litter. I have no idea where they go to the bathroom, but they don't even seem to piss in ally ways. The homeless do not interact with "normal" people. No one seems to reach out to them, there are no homeless shelters, not re-entry programs, I am not even aware of a soup kitchen. The homeless population have no presence in Japanese society because they are ashamed to be homeless, and seen as less than human. A sort of wild animal that roams around, but doesn't bother anyone. If I were to guess part of the reason the homeless population is so low is because social pressure to keep a job is so high. That and the high suicide rate. I would rather have the chance to get in a homeless shelter and get a job again, but risk prison, than just be viewed as such an abject failure that I couldn't even commit suicide, and have no real chance to get back into society/work.
last time I went to Japan was in 2016 and homeless people definetely exist in Japan, they just sat under a bridge with a million business people and tourists walking past them. They didn't beg for money, didn't have a cardboard sign that said please help, they just sat almost blending in with the darkness. The only thing noticeable about them was the smell.
Im sorry to go off topic, but I wonder why you wrote "verboten" instead of "forbidden"? Are you german or is this word actually used by english speakers?
@@truegopnik6591 In that case "acquittal! does not equal innocence. This is the problem that I have with these kind of assumptions; guilt and innocence, as determined by the judicial process, becomes variable in validity based on the subjective opinions of each individual. For example, in rape and sexual assault cases, here in Ireland, accused men will very often go through a detailed court process, be acquitted as innocent, yet still, somehow, be considered guilty. The reasons often given for this is that "just because someone is found innocent in court doesn't mean they didn't do it!" But that places these men in an intolerable position because it is simply impossible to prove that you DIDN'T do something; basic logic states that you cannot prove a negative! It also means that guilt, in these kinds of crimes, is based, not on an objective analysis of the facts, but, essentially, on the basis of one persons accusation (regardless how plausible!) The opposite is also true in sexual assault cases involving women as the perpetrators in Ireland. In the vast majority of such cases women, even when convicted of appalling abuse and neglect of children, are treated as much as a victim as the actual victim on whom the crime is committed. Often you will find hundreds of people campaigning on behalf of the CONVICTED female perpetrator, in order to have her released, for reasons including "she was pressured into it by a boyfriend" or "she was abused as a child"; excuses that are simply not available to any male perpetrator convicted of such an offense EVEN IF THEY HAD EXPERIENCED ABUSE AS A CHILD. The real reason why women get treated so differently is because, in the majority of peoples minds, men will ALWAYS be the perpetrators of sexual violence (and all men have a propensity for it both physically and emotionally); they will NEVER, EVER be the victim unless they were prepubescent children at the time of the offence and did not, themselves, commit offenses as an adult. Similarly, women are ALWAYS victims when it comes to sexual violence, or, when they are involved, their actions were always controlled and imposed by a male figure in their life. In this way, a very simple "truth" is ingrained in the wider social consciousness; men are perpetrators, women victims. Anything that goes against this "truth", like facts and evidence, are ignored or undermined because humans find it very difficult to accept they are wrong and that their attitudes need to change. It is within this context that the absolutism of court outcomes needs to be upheld. Yes, where there are mistakes they need to be rectified, but this needs to happen within the courts system, not in the wider public imagination. Yes people can campaign for their interests to be safeguarded, but this need to be guided by facts and evidence, not conversations on twitter. Sorry for the rant, but I studied this for years and it still annoys me.
You could not be more wrong. because at least Yagami won't torture you and will give you the sweet release of death. If Yagami was like the system, he would write your name in the deathnote and then add next to it "But only after 30 years of torture and a signed confession which includes praise to the system for being so effective" and i feel like that's the real dark part. but love the comment anyway, +1
@@ThatOneDude7 I kinda think that makes the system somewhat inadvertently effective, combined with the repressive culture of Japan they make sure no one even attempts crimes without either being 100% sure they won't get caught or coming to terms that they'll most likely be in prison for a really long time. That's why Japanese crime is so odd, the one guy who stole millions from a candy company and was never found, that one guy who stabbed 11 children, the terrorist cultist who gassed the trains and so on.
Meep Meep Robbery is rampant in Japan but they just never get reported. The POLICE will advice you not to because they most likely can’t find the person. They’ll even bribe you if you’re a foreign just to keep their stats squeaky clean. I would know I was robbed 3 times within 6 months and each time was advised to report it as a loss instead of a robbery. Broken system cares about face than justice.
@@ThatOneDude7 Na, you really think they wouldnt want to just kill criminals if they could? They wouldnt need to build prisons, they wouldnt need to spend money on feeding and housing prisoners. Light is definitely the system, most of his victims are the people who the system finds guilty.
I had too much respect for Japan when I was younger for I’d studied Japanese mysticism & philosophy. I even considered living there. But after studying its social & legal system, I came to a conclusion that broke all my fancy dreams. Japan is so beautiful to observe for most of the non Japanese. Let them be so.
@@pawanadhikari7178 They also have a low birth rate one of the reason is Japanese people work 6 days a week in 10 hours a day it seems they are working himself to death
@@Mad-wv6ol those are rookies numbers. When I was working there I worked 12 hours 6 days work periods. The japanese regular workers even more. they seem to be utterly convinced that longer hours = productivity, when I was there they were just running around pretending to be busy and their subordinates were the ones doing the actual working.
@@johnzkeePW yeah, Japanese people are seemingly fantastic at "pretend work" for the sake of boosting their work hours, which is a HUGE contrast from where I live (Sweden) where if you're salaried rather than making an hourly wage, you're not gonna get chewed out by anyone for just working 4-6 hours some days as long as you actually make those 4-6 hours productive. Many Swedish companies measure productivity in how much work actually gets done per hour rather than how many hours someone works in a day.
I actually heard this statistic before when UA-cam recommended a video related to foreigners having issues in Japan and a Japanese lawyer fighting this injustice, the problem isn't that nobody is fighting against it, the problem is that nobody dares to openly speak up against it.
Capitalizing Every Word Doesn't Make Your Statement Any More Or Even Seem More Intelligent Compared To Leaving All The Words Uncapitalized And It Actually Takes More Effort To Capitalize All Of The Words Opposed To Not Doing So
Wow, now that I heard all this, I might understand why prosecutors in games like Phoenix Wright: Ace Attourney are portrayed like they are: As people whose only desire is to get a guilty verdict, no matter what.
Prosecutors are always like that. Lawyers are corrupt as shit everywhere. The main thing I notice about Phoenix Wright is the “guilty until proven innocent” thing, which is different from America.
@@ninjacell2999 Fun fact, Japan had the "One guy decides the verdict" system during the first games development, and that was replaced with a jury of judges by the games release. They just never changed the games visual design to reflect the change.
@@cokebear1337 For example in Germany a criminal judge must actively determine whether the accused can actually be the culprit. If he has doubts as to what actually happened, he must have further investigations carried out. (This is called "Amtsermittlungsgrundsatz". :>) The prosecutor is also obliged to investigate not only incriminating but also exonerating circumstances.
1) Good to see you shining a light on the more shameful and often ignored aspects of Japan 2) I like your narration and presentation style, it's slow and laid back and not in-your-face, it's less about you and more about the subject. Bravo.
It is easy, with all of its apparent modernity, to forget that Japan missed the renaissance and most of the industrial revolution - and was a feudal society into the 1860s. It is easy, for a foreigner, to be completely unaware of how much the feudal mindset still permeates Japanese society. Or to see the more visible aspects of it as quaint or "weird" but ultimately inconsequential.
Ah yes, the "enlightened" west...with all its achievements(read: scams) like democracy, equality(on paper)... so much better. In fact so much better that most western countries won't make it past this century. A f-ing charade, all of it.
why youre the only here with a japaneese youtube name? if someone uploaded something about germany you can be sure the whole comment section is german, no matter which language the video is. btw: found 2 comments from you and right now here are over 6700 comments... i only found yours.
@@四季-i5k Weird, I thought it was quite common. What languages do you guys study there? I'm genuinely curious since I come from a country where English is "kinda" taught but no one really cares much about actually learning it. I know I could just look it up but I think having information about a country from someone actually living there is much more valuable.
I love reading Cardassian crime novels. It's not a spoiler that everyone turns out to be guilty, because they are always guilty; the fun is trying to figure out whom is guilty of what!
@@switchplayer1016 That game is for the Japanese market. The intention is to "glorify" the defense attorney (in the eyes of Japanese youth) as a counter balance for a reality, where there is no defense at all. How we in the west see this game is not even a secondary concern for the creators.
Ace Attorney, Persona 5, Judgement (Yakuza spinoff)... Hell, even Death Note took a stab at Japan's messed up legal system. The fact that multiple Japanese games focus on it as a central issue feels very indicative of its real life severity. Yikes... (Also they all taught me that friendly brown-haired detectives obsessed with "justice" should *never* be trusted, but that might be just a coincidence idk)
More like I'm right because of my status/position. Which isn't that strange when you think about it. Courts in the US for example decide what laws mean, even if that meaning is contrary to the wording. Certain sciences do the same, they decide what is true by deciding what are the facts.
and I would also say the yakuza is way more responsible for the low crime rates then the justice system. If you commit a crime you better hope the justice system catches you and not the yakuza. They also take in a lot of youth that would otherwise become street criminals.
Simple answer : Other legal systems : Innocent before proven guilty. Japanese legal system : guilty before proven innocent. So, even if you are 100% innocent, you still guilty in front of the judge unless you have a "100% perfect proof that cannot be challenged by the prosecutor"
@ocelot. except that even the witch trials were fairer than japanece legal system, the witch trials get a lot of bad rap and misconceptions, it wasnt like you could literaly just scream (she is a witch) and the person was inmediately burned, you actually had to present evidence of your claim and if it was inconclusive or not enough the charges were dropped and the person liberated, for example the soo famous spanish inquisition never burned someone thats a story, the modern imagination of the witch trials are a exageration So yeah, you had more probabilities of surviving a witch trial than the japanece juridical system, talk about broken
It's actually worse, the police can and will intentionally withhold evidence that could exonerate the accused, and a lot of times an alibi provided by family members "doesn't count" as a real alibi So even "100% perfect proof" isn't always enough
@@ignacio4159 sae was in the process of becoming one of those prosecutors, but you stopped her before it really got out of control Jesus, imaginé the amount of palaces that exist within the japanece jurodical system
I would argue the opposite. In China they shut down industry near the Olympic stadium for like 3 months so the sky wouldn't be so black from pollution. Japan is quite a bit more dedicated to looking good, they would gather people up and exterminate them before they would allow strife during the games
@@Carewolf Russia are idiots lol. I wouldn't trust Russia to cover up a table with a bed sheet. They'd forget the dog was sleeping under it and he would pull it all down
Interesting topic. A Norwegian woman in Japan was arrested a couple of weeks ago for receiving a package with cookies containing drugs. According to her family, she doesn't drink or do drugs. After watching this, I know she's doomed. Innocent or not.
@@prototype2889 Who knows, does it matter? I find it very interesting that I could absolutely ruin any random Japanese person by sending them a letter with some drugs. It's super fucked up.
And in fact there are very few lawyers in Japan. Not just because of the criminal side... Japanese people almost never settle disputes through lawsuits.
Bro no joke you don't even want to spend a night in a Japanese jail, you'll be crammed into a cell with 15 other prisoners who can't speak japanese and are from very poor areas of asia.
You really nailed it when you mentioned Confucianism as the root cause of this cultural refusal to question authority. You see the same pattern in Singapore, China, Korea, Taiwan and Hong Kong (though the latter 3 have moved significantly towards having a quasi-western ability to challenge the authorities in the face of injustice - think the democratization of S.Korea and the current HK protests). And sadly, it is so ingrained that many (particularly the older generation or the less-educated) are either silent, or actively complicit in their own subjugation.
I dunno about the others but I know Korea well. Korea is 100% influenced by Confuciuism but definitely influenced by Western society as well. Peaceful democratic protests are common. There is much debate between different parties. People have a wide range of opinions and are quite vocal about it
I have lived in korea all my life and i can tell you that like 99% of all koreans hate their authorities with a burning passion. Maybe it's just a different strain of Confucianism. Maybe it's the more chaotic and painful modernization process. Whatever it is, we all have mistrust and skepticism about our government.
@@hyointheforest Oh I agree. I actually studied a lot about the Korean experience of moving from authoritarianism democracy - it took a lot of things acting together to overcome the cultural bias towards submitting to authorities (the Gwangju Massacre is perhaps the most obvious example), and arguably also the western influences of religion (many authors point to Christianity as playing a role) as well as the liberal leanings of the university-educated. To me, South Korea is one of the success stories of enlightenment over the cultural imprisonment of Confucianism.
@Hoàng Nguyên The risk of being a successful socialist country is that there is always the chance the U.S. will come to kick your shit in to prove socialism doesn't work.
Confucianism is a double edged sword. It also emphasizes that authority must be benevolent to the subordinate and ensure the prosperity of the people. Also access to education and the importance of knowledge and studying. Sure it's sexist against women and emphasizes heirarchy, but so are people in the west. They just pretend there's no heirarchy and women are equal. Western universalism.
Sae Nijima in Persona 5 is a prosecuter in Japan and just like he explains in this video her job is described to as one to obtain the truth, but to convict the accused. If you fail to convict even once as a prosecuter, say goodbye to your whole career.
Your next episode should be on how Japan keeps their homicide statistics low by reporting the results of murders as "unclaimed bodies" rather then as "victims" and opening a case. A case that would make things official, not get solved, and thus bring down their average. It's a weird category they're excelling in against all other national statistics especially since it's a classification most nations don't even have. It's like a whole county of people that just 'forgets' corpses face down in random ditches on the edge of town. Because that's a totally normal thing to have happen all the time.... :P
Soooo basically.... You can easily get away with murder so long as you know how to frame it that it would take some work to convict you? Scary thought.
Crime stats are not always reflective of what's actually going on. Another big one is Sweden's supposedly sky-high rape rates. In reality the numbers are pushed up massively because kidnappers who rape someone repeatedly over a long time get charged for each invidual instance.
The greatest tyrannies on earth exist in places with this type of mindset where the unspoken social peer pressure reduces people's morality to that of sheep,...following orders.
That's what working class is meant to be. Hive mentality is dictators and proles' wet dream, except for different reasons. Meanwhile the middle class is shunned by both them for being selfish on one hand, tax evader on other hand.
Someone from the US, connected to a Japanese University, randomly sent a Norwegian foreign student there, some pot cookies...she was then jailed for over a month without access to legal representation. And had her studies ruined. There is a stigma of being arrested in Japan. They don't care if you are guilty or not. The government of Norway got involved. Once her lawyers were able to meet with, and interview her, and investigate the facts and the investigation, the Japanese police had to drop the case. Another example of Japan's legal system losing face.
It does add even more layers of meaning to why it tells the type of story that it does. Super smart too, since the series is clearly drawing parallels to thier actual society, yet framing it as a fictional future with non-existent technology being responsible... Rather than directly shaming and calling out the real life systems
“Not in a robotic sense, but in a social one.” Yeah no. It’s robotic. I appreciate Japanese culture VERY much but it has its flaws. One of them being that it puts conformity above everything else. This is good for getting things done but it is very bad at checking wether it should be done.
The US Military is resistant to the Japanese legal system for these reasons. Our personnel stationed in Japan are protected from this horrible system, and this has angered the Japanese people.
@@rubyruby7573 well japans history is LITERALLY worse than nazi germanys. Even nazi allies stationed in china were trying to stop the absolutely barbaric and inhumane treatments of the chinese at the hands of the japanese.
@@rubyruby7573 in addition to your post being totally incoherent, your annoying habit to capitalize every word's first letter makes it even harder to read.
That's fucking stupid tho, so is it guilty until proven innocent the running theme right now? That's twisted af. Edit: just google him, he's a comedian, so this is sarcasm right?
The answer is , money . That's a fact in the USA. Look, even our president who is a citizen is not receiving due process . plus all things being said against him is hear say. I think the peoples of any country need to redu their justice system if you wanna call it that . How bout teaching people who commit an offense of small proportion to not reoffend and find out what's wrong . Which it's wrong to lock up someone who has mental health issues just because people want money and or lock up . Nope your creating an animal who is 100 times higher risk to reoffend, plus be smarter at criminal behaviors or just down right vengeful blood thirsty . Thus wanting blood instead of acting out for help. Thank you and have a wonderful life.
Being accused of something makes you already guilty. Like for example, even if you didn’t do anything at all. But then a woman screams and accuses you of sexual harassment, the police wouldn’t want to hear your side and only think of you as a miserable person trying to deny what you’ve done. They are gonna tell you that you are so shameful for trying to escape it and even make you admit it no matter what. Even if you managed to prove your innocence the people around you will just think that justice wasn’t served. Also, even if you were a criminal and was freed from jail. You won’t find any job cause people think you’re a criminal no matter what and even if you convince them that you’ve changed they will still be concerned about hiring a “criminal”, they won’t see you as a fellow human and you most likely to get mistreated and discriminated once they know you have a history.
I mean second part is true in america as well. If u have criminal background, you cant work. Even minimum wage jobs wont hire you. Logic is if there are many competant people competing for a job, why hire one with criminal background and that logic is very understandable tbh.
"They're doing it because it's their job." Hannah Arendt's "banality of evil" idea came to mind when you mentioned that. All of my comfort in Japan was shadowed by understanding the benefits of my foreigner status and the leeway it granted me. Imagining living in that society as a native wasn't nearly as comfortable. Stricter adherence would be required.
I’ve been playing some Phoenix Wright games and this added a whole new context the premise of the game, it makes the whole games so much more complex that your a defense attorney fight against the prosecution each with near perfect conviction records.
Huh. A video on Japan. Where the journey with this channel started couple of years ago. At least, for me. Just, as horrifying. Now, I wonder, what I might not know about my home country. It's easy to see the far away place of extremes and gawk at them, but...
@@krunkle5136 I'm glad you have found it useful. And, well, even on a personal level... Our own problems often may feel insurmountable, while those of others seem like something, that can be easily (and already should've been) fixed. Both assumptions are biased, but reverse probably wouldn't be true either. We may have a lot to learn from outsider perspective and their trust in our strength to deal with our problems, while they would appreciate us for not diminishing both their problems _and_ the efforts, put into dealing with those.
This is the dark side of honour, shame and collectivistic conformist society. Some these thing are not really Japanese but part old east Asian Confucian social order. In honour and shame society, the individual is never an individual but part of a group. You are what people see you as and your action always represent the whole group. An honour killing or suicide is an extream way person and group can become free from the shame of individual misdeed. In some way, a Japanese prison system is a form of honour killing as a way of cutting a source of shame from the whole group and creating a class of outcast.
philosophy Unexpectedly though, in this day and age, "honor, shame and conforming" State-societies will outlive and outlast the pseudo-liberal and declining 'West'.
specifically its called a collectivist ideology. As a westerner myself I am inclined to agree. Japan take collectivism to a insane and somewhat disturbing degree.
@Sushant Kumar we are talking about the justice system, that is independent form the government and form the economy. Japan is implementing socialism ideals in the court and because of this they legal system is broken. Each individual need to be punish solely for his own act, not for a third party. What you will think if they charge you guilty because something the neighbor did?
I was wondering why did youtube recommend me this video after watching a series about the harsh life in the dystopian Imperium in Warhammer 40k. After watching this vid, that recommendation made sense.
If the grass looks greener, it's probably because there's more shit in that yard. Edit: this is the first comment I've ever gotten this many likes on. You'd think I was a sage or something, sadly I'm not.
@@tatsumakimojo5502 He was already rich. An extravagant marriage is not a crime. That's not evidence at all. Typical Japanese. They kept releasing him and re arresting him and had over a year to try him. This was a shake down operation. I don't blame the guy.
@@tatsumakimojo5502 So what if he was guilty? The Japanese justice system is a joke. Whatever he had done he deserved a fair and impartial court case. He did not get anything like that. It does not seem like anyone is getting that in Japan. Frankly I think he was innocent. I have not faith in the Japanese justice system. They seem able to just make up charges. With such a system you never have any confidence that there is any truth to the allegations. I believe INNOCENT until proven otherwise. Hence I will believe Carlos is innocent until a sane justice system can evaluate the case.
@@humansvd3269 You don't blame the guy? Maybe you should. This man is a tax evader. The Japanese justice system is harsh, but hat does not make mr Ghosn any innocent.
@@whirlwind872 She was a Japanese teenager with a promising future who was kidnapped by fellow classmates, and Tortured to death over the course of 40somsthing days. The Murderers were only caught because a few of them were overheard bragging about it. I won't go into the details of what they did to her, you can look them up, or imagine the very worst. But her murderers we're all given light sentences, 3 received sentences of 5 years and one a sentence of 8 years if I remember correctly. All of whom are now free, with the exception of one who is back in prison for another murder/rape. The last known photo of them is smoking weed and enjoying themselves as free men.
@@snakey934Snakeybakey Punishment doesn't undo the crime. If the rate of that kind of stuff happening is low (relative to other countries), then the system is working.
A good video as far as it goes but you missed an important element: the Japanese police and the lack of rights that suspects are afforded. Suspects can be held without legal counsel for up to 20 days and interrogated using extremely oppressive techniques. That's a recipe for getting false confessions. Put those confessions before a compliant court that thinks highly of the police and you have a recipe for wrongful convictions. There's a good chance that most people convicted in Japan are actually innocent - or, at least, have not had a fair trial find them guilty beyond reasonable doubt.
I know it is a few months since you posted this, but a good example of what you just said is the case of Toshikazu Sugaya, who spent almost 20 years in jail for a homicide he did not commit. He “confessed” while under interrogation because the police beat him up while he was in their custody.
Not merely "losing", but "losing face", which is not the same as being embarrassed or even "ashamed" by Western standards. More like "You've fundamentally failed to do your duty, you've dishonored your parents, your boss and your country, and you've created disorder and disharmony in our great society." In a Christian society you'd simply confess and come out clean on the other end, but Confucians don't believe sins can be forgiven; you simply carry them around until you die, and then they just float away. It's why Japan will give you 20 years for marijuana possession but they still venerate the graves of war criminals from WW2.
@@galarstar052 Nothing is a "christian society" nowadays, but the west was built on the foundation Christian beliefs and moral values, around when Constantine made it Rome's state religion and it was spread out to the rest of Europe and later America. It may not be the belief system everyone espouses today, but you can't deny that Judaic moral values are heavily steeped in western society.
@@galarstar052 which one do you prefer then? Guilty untile proven innocent as seen in Japan or innocent until proven guilty espoused and grounded in Western countries?
You're falling prey to fearmongering. It's not that this isn't an issue, but it should not stop you from visiting Japan. As long as you do your due diligence to not break their laws, you have nothing to worry about and the country is very nice.
@@LilJbm1 This video detailed how even if you don't break any laws, you'll be almost certainly punished if the police think you have, which kinda goes against your point of "just don't break any laws". That's not how a 'justice' system should ever work. You probably won't go through their legal system, you'll just be deported back home. But there's still a possibility of your visit being ruined and money being wasted for no reason.
@@LilJbm1 He might want to go due to a lack of approval for their system, rather than fear. I personally wont visit due to this, more out of a sense of disapproval of their systems and a refusal to validate it with my presence, than fear.
@@isaacsorrels4077 I mean, your "lack of presence" won't really change anything because they won't care, and shouldn't. You're a foreigner that can have opinions, but they don't have to listen to them. It is a shoddy system with flaws, but every system has flaws and you shouldn't let that determine how you live your life. That's all I am saying. If this makes you not want to visit Japan but you really wanted to before, then eh okay. You're missing out on everything else the country has to offer over principle (which is your prerogative, it just won't change anything and you deprive yourself of an otherwise life-changing experience).
@@AA-ok5jz Ph, they reported and decided he was guilty? How is this any better? We will never know and honestly, nether government has any moral right or legal standing due to they corruption.
That loyalty to one's group among the Japanese is insidious. And don't get me started on the inherent racism. The word 'inhumane' doesn't begin to cover it.
@Jai Rey Japan is a highly ethnically homogeneous country, and that is indeed a recipe for racism (it's also the excuse their government uses for why they don't do more to combat racism). No-one's saying that all Japanese people are bad or anything of that sort; don't get so defensive. www.japantimes.co.jp/opinion/2018/06/03/commentary/japan-commentary/face-reality-racism-japan
This is actually happening right now to an innocent girl, Ingrid, who was living in Japan. She's been detained without access to family or a lawyer based on the fact that her roommate received a package supposedly containing marijuana from someone outside of the country. docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1hA8ReAU4cNkuf94UYlxfDdU8kVE6_VoHhjWhpwrmZQE/mobilebasic
*I've never been to Japan and only recently did I started learning about their justice system. But even before now, something about Japan had never seem right with me. Their suicide rate.* *As a Nigerian, Japan is like an advanced futuristic society we can only dream of, so it bugles the mind to hear that people also commit suicide and at a very high rate in a country that seem to have everything one could possibly dream of. That made me to know that something is wrong.* *Then the 2009 recession happened across the world. I read reports that sex and pharmaceutical drugs sold the highest in Japan during that period. I began to wonder how depressed the people are to the point of thinking of sex and hallucinogenic drugs and aphrodisiac during financial crisis.* *It made me to even question their aesthetic perfection which the rest of the world envies.* *Then finally the Nissan CEO had to escape Japan. That's when I began to learn about their legal system with 99% conviction rate.* *Clearly, the grass is not always greener on the other side.*
“Face” in Asian cultures can sometimes be illogical, in all aspects of life, be it at work,social,family settings. A good example are couples incurring heavy debt at the beginning of their new life together for a lavish wedding they can’t afford just because of “face”.
Ahhh! Is that why they do it? I live in Sydney Australia and every single time I go into the city by the harbour, around the Harbour Bridge, Opera House, Botanic Gardens, etc, there is inevitably at least 3 or 4 different Asian couples having wedding photos taken by a professional and a group of 'helpers' with them.
This seems to be the case in other aspects of their culture as well. I remember seeing somewhere than in japan even if you are laid off from a job while having no fault of your own youre still supposed to apologize to your employer or boss for not being able to do your job. To "save face" in a way.
@Martin Beck Bruh whatchu talking about? I think the UK is the European country with the longest uninterrupted government at like 450 years and that's if you don't count Ireland and Scotland as part of the UK.
Overstepping law enforcement is the Biggest issue facing developed nations currently. Its modern day slavery in my opinion. Unless you’re a violent criminal, theres no reason you should be locked in a cage.
I wouldn't go that far. I understand the sentiment & agree with it to an extent -- for instance, I think we should legalize the use & sale of recreational drugs. But, there are some legitimate crimes in which real harm is done even if nobody is physically injured. Look at the 2008 housing market crash, for instance. Or look at someone like Bernie Madoff. Capitalism is the best economic system we have figured out so far, but it has its limits, & the free market truly is not very good at determining value. For instance, to the free market, a successful scam is much more valuable than an organization caring for disabled adults -- even though the former is an obvious detriment to society & the latter is an obvious boon. So it goes with the formation of monopolies & the corruption of politicians, judges, & laws. Capitalism only works with strong legal frameworks & punishments that ensure the incentives align with what would actually make society better.
you shouldn't think of it as slavery. it cost most developed nations tones of money to detain these people. The idea behind it, is that these people are actively doing damage to society. and rehab is supposed to change that.
@@davidmcrae4791 Yes, but the system doesn't rehabilitate its prisoners. People walk in criminals and walk out either unable to cope with the outside world or hardened into absolutely violent criminals.
WishingPole Locking people in a cage with a bunch of criminals doesn’t rehabilitate anyone. If anything it perpetuates gangs and racism because you’re often forced to join a gang to stay safe(most gangs are race based, especially in prisons). Our current system is beyond broken. Why do you think recidivism is so high?
I had a double major in Japanese Studies. Learning about laws in Japan had my jaw on the floor. Especially the laws for how you convict someone for rape
"There is no such thing as a plea of innocence in my court, a plea of innocence is guilty of wasting my time. Guilty." - Inquisitor Lord Fyodor Karamazov
Anyone wishing to learn more about the often unspoken dark sides of Japan's history wod do well to look up a video by Knowing Better. Just search "Knowing Better Japan" it'll be there.
I know plenty people say he makes fairly good videos. I'm one of those people that watched his 4k debacle and cant being myself to really trust much of what he's saying anymore. Maybe I'll give this a shot though for at least more context i the matter.
If you’re coming to UA-cam for 100% factually correct videos then you’re usually wasting your time. People like knowing better or oversimplified are a good basis of information but you should always look at a second source or read some books written by people who are qualified in that field
The dude can be a good source of information, but his bias is very evident in some videos. In a video about the 2nd Amendment, he conveniently left out the fact that the American Revolution was sparked by the British trying to seize gunpowder/weapon stores at Concord and left out numerous quotes from the Founding Fathers with regards to firearm ownership all while claiming to understand the context under which the 2nd Amendment was created.
@@ucnguyen6375 damn that's dark ,media and government don't hold back here when it comes to crime in India . Opposite to Japan we openly talk about crimes instead of hiding them
So most weebs here came from psycho pass and death note. Meanwhile I came from Jujutsu kaisen to understand the Japanese legal system and dear God is it horrible.
Funny thing you bring that up. I'm a policeman, so I see the System a lot. It's not always perfect, it's often not pretty, but I have great faith in it. Why? Because we have limits and rights. We have attorneys, appeals, trials, juries, evidence, and so on. All that even comes to traffic court. I've had people there on tiny moving violations, and they're affording an attorney and an interpreter if they need them. I have to also convince the court of their guilt with actual evidence of both the crime and the process having been followed. In America, the burden is on us, the state to charge, press, and convict. In Japan, the burden is on the accused to prove they didn't do it. Quick! Convince me you aren't a drug trafficker? You aren't one and you have no drugs you say? Lies! And of course you don't have them on you, they're elsewhere! Because you can't prove your innocence, you must be guilty! In the USA, if I accused you of possession with intent to distribute, i'd need probable cause to stop you, to alert dispatch, find drugs of the right quantity, arrest you, book you, write a report, recommend the pressing of charges, share my evidence with the defense counsel of yours, and show up to court to argue my side while you are allowed to argue yours with a lawyer who is there not to serve the state, but to protect your rights. And if you are convicted, it's because we had a solid case, not that you couldn't disprove a negative. There's another reason we have trials even for obviously guilty bastards who do things like post videos of themselves raping children. We protect the rights and process of everyone. It's so that justice is as fair as possible. Believe me, I arrest guys like that, and I want to just turn off my body cam and blow their head off "because I was in "fear for my life". But I can't. I have to follow all the proceedures, all the rules, grant them all permissable reasonable requests. That way, when judgement day comes, their lawyers can''t have the case thrown out for our impropriety, and we can't be in trouble for violating their civil rights. When that piece of shit gets 65 years, the guilt is absolute and total, proven without a shadow of doubt, fully and fairly. It's for this reason I have a healthy respect for Internal Affairs officers. Sure, they're guys you only see professionally when things suck, but they make sure we follow the laws and don't persecute the citizens. Because when we do that, trust and cooperation goes down, the community doesn't trust us and our job becomes harder and deadlier. I also have a respect for Defense Attorneys. I could not stand up and defend aforementioned babyrapists, but they have their rights and they need to be protected so that we establish no precedent for allowing injustice of convenience or cruelty. They also do a good job of making sure the innocent are protected and not punished. They aren't amoral villains making it so that we can't send the pieces of shit to prison, they're making sure only the correct people go to prison, only for a fitting duration, and that any possibility of their innocence or incompetence has been properly explored so that we know it is the right perpetrator and the right sentence and the right crime when we convict people. And if we don't convict, we don't consider it a professional defeat. Our boss isn't going to haul us up for a screaming session about how we made him look bad, unless we violated rights and proceedures, in which case, no cop will argue that it was undeserved, and odds are there's a prosecution and a firing coming our way. We accept that we can be wrong and that there absolutely be innocent people in our net. That's why we have the process with rights and regulations for everyone. That's why speeders are guaranteed an attornye if they wish, and why even baby rapers are permitted a chance to testify.
The punishments are not the problem; it is the probability of being falsely convicted. You will not get two months for a speeding ticket, but if you were falsely accused of speeding then you will certainly have to pay the fine.
@@haoschlong4164 Court. Take it to court. Any judge will throw it out. From it not mattering, to being well within the margin of error for a legally calibrated speedometer, to it just being a waste of time. Nobody cares and the judge will give an on the record lashing to Officer Karen for dragging you there.
Makes me glad that the Americans nuked them, and completely destroyed their ass. Japan’s worse than China, when it comes to the legal system and that’s not even a joke.
@@erichkaufmann5284 The few positives to Japan are the following: 1. New and better technology every day 2. Environmental consciousness 3. Aforementioned safety 4. It has some form of democracy But the destructively crushing society will destroy Japan forever
_By the time he was released decades of draconian prison life had left his brain so addled that he couldn't even comprehend the tearful apology. The damage had been done. Justice had been served._ That's not justice, and to say it is turns justice into a farce. If Japanese punishment is that terrible, it is a crime against humanity, regardless of guilt.
Ruby Ruby plus the burden of proof being high? The burden of proof is a yea or nay system, either the prosecution has to prove it or the defendant does, in most courts the prosecution must provide evidence
Ruby Ruby plus while the amount of proof required is high, if you get a confession it’s an instant conviction. While this may seem fine on paper, in Japan if you get arrested first off, you face a 36 hour long interrogation where you get no food or water, then 23 days in a cramped space that would fit 4 people but instead has 6 while being malnourished and facing low temperatures without so much as a coat. It’s no surprise that almost all cases end in a confession
2:50 that’s a perfect example of an collective culture, “loyalty to one’s group” it can be a family, society, or the whole country. To this day this culture is still very common in many Asian countries.
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Most civilisation is based on cowardice. It's so easy to civilize by teaching cowardice. You water down the standards which would lead to bravery. You restrain the will.
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@@oddish2253 I'd argue that cowardice is the intended result of habitually shaming people, both in society and in private or work or really any relations. It's how authoritarian rule becomes unquestioned.
This Legal system is a total joke, and is inhumane to the extreme. I was released from Japanese custody last week (Charges were dropped by Japanese court.). The Japanese Justice system is not justice at all, it is all based around confessions, intimidation,cultural shaming and perceived remorse.
People from where I live (U.K) and across the western world take a look at Japan’s crime stats on a piece of paper and say yep the Japanese are doing it right And we should implement their system. Not knowing how many holes there are in their system and what a disaster it would be. confessions are judged as the king of all evidence within Japan... which is reflected through all of the draconian practises the Police, prosecutor’s, Courts and the system in general use relentlessly to obtain it.
They start from the second you are within their custody there is No access to an attorney during interview. The interview is not recorded. Up to 36 hour long police interrogations which are conducted with you tied up to the chair with no food or sleep. You will be screamed at, insulted, threatened, humiliated and physically abused.
After this stage people are then put into a detention centre within the police station. This is 4 walls a floor and a hole in the ground for shitting. Welcome to your new home that is big enough to fit 4 people but has 6 in.
You have no furniture or bed. The temperature will be so cold that you go into survival mode. You are unable to speak to anyone within your cell. English is not allowed to be spoken. You are fed on 1300Cals a day. You don’t see sunlight or go outside. You are unable to see, hear or have communication with your family. Access to BASIC medication, such as treatment for Severe diarrhoea or severe vomiting will be purposefully restricted unless you are actually dying. This period lasts 23 days at least, all the while to police and prosecutors are ‘working’ on a case to bring forward to a judge. In reality, they are doing all they can to psychologically and physically break you into confession. Once they have this it is looked at as the grandest piece of evidence and you will be behind bars and become one of the 99% of other people.
If these are your experiences then I think this needs to go higher up, so I gave a like. I hope others do as well
So what were you in for, Doc?
Anti Dote thank you so much! I didn’t want to go into too much detail about all of the brutalities so I just tried to give a clear summary of the way things unfortunately work. It saddens me that the culture I loved so much from the outside, can be so badly broken from the inside.
uegvdczuVF uegvdczuVF I had 4 Pain killers in rucksack for a sustained injury. I was told that they can detain me in case it was something such as Meth tablets (?!?) Once the lab test showed it was clearly not an illegal narcotic, they then tried to make me sign a written statement in Japanese confessing to an Importation charge. I admire the Japanese lady who represented me. without her, I would not of been able to gather all the evidence needed to have all charges dropped. Even though I knew inside I didn’t do anything to warrant the treatment I got, I was near a point of signing the confession statement to just at least get certainty, and to write to my family (which can only be done once you are found guilty and moved to the “Proper” prisons if that makes sense...)
@@rr212 technically you did do something illegal. Under Japanese law bringing in even one aspirin counts as importing controlled drugs. I just wanted to point that out for anyone traveling to Japan. While they will probably let you off with a warning, as the OP found even without technically being found guilty, and he may not have even been formally charged, they can do a lot to you.
As far as implementing the Japanese legal system, you really can't do it without the Japanese culture. As the Japanese culture dies the legal system will become a much worse problem and I don't know if they will adapt in time.
“Freedom on paper does not equate to freedom in practice.”
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@@olelubbers9441 Sorry, but I would think that this phrase is a better description of the US at present (and indeed since the early to mid 80s!)
@@arfnore And you are proving him that by writing comment on website that is banned in Iran and freely accessible in US. I would say that US is less free since all that “mah national security” policies put in action after 9/11, but for someone saying unironically “no, not Iran, it’s totally USA” and publishing it without hindrance for American audience to see, is kind of hypocritical.
@@stafer3 don't worry, there's enough oppression to go around, for all of you.
@@stafer3 if I could understand what you are saying I would reply in detail. Anyway, I would point out that the only people who are truly free in the USA is wealthy people (about 10% of the population). Poor and middle income people are seen as a threat to the rich and, therefore have to be controlled. This is done mainly through social and cultural manipulation. For example, poor white people in, say, West Virginia consistently vote in politicians who advocate policies detrimental to them for no other reason than cultural affiliation with one political party. Such tactics can hardly be described as " freedom".
Japan's police have also been accused of classifying any unsolved homicides as a suicide. By contrast UK and US have countless unsolved homicides every year.
So true. Based on annual averages if you commit a murder you have about a 50% chance of getting away with it.
@//Cassiopeya Plus\\ Well, they definitely have a lot of reasons for that. For one suicide is in Japan's culture. It's known that often Japenese people commit suicide to avoid shame. Also as was stated in the video their society has such a large emphasis on work, most people work in an office for 10 hours a day and even live in tiny apartments closer to their jobs rather than live with their wives and kids or other family. Meaning they are often lonely and obviously depressed as anyone would be working a job they hate only to give money to people they rarely even see.
Seems like the kind of place where a low-key assassin with a respectable job could kill people for years and get away with it.
@@jasoncarswell7458 There are no serial killers in Japan. Never have been. Never will be. That is all.
Since they don't officially exist, the Cops don't officially look for them.
Unsolved death = suicide = private matter = no press coverage. Bodies found all over town, official silence.
Almost like the government wants the string of killings to go on unabated...Cops in Japan don't get to kill folks, so not catching killers does the same thing, eh?
We call ours attributable to coronavirus.
The conviction rate is the reason Pheonix Wright always has to not only prove his client innocent but to also find and prove the guilt of the real culprit.
America is one of the few countries in the world where you are innocent until proven guilty.
@@cokebear1337 That's the case in most western countries, especially Europe.
@@Lancor84 yeah, and he forgot to. Mention that it only applies when you are white lmao
@@cokebear1337 I wish it was on the list, but it's really not. The plea bargain system alone makes that false. There are far more than a few though. So it's not all bad news.
Aren't you also a tyrant dear Spazz? Hmmm.
_"Prosecutors only bring cases to court when they are sure the suspect is guilty."_ will invariably become: _"The suspect must be guilty because the prosecutors have brought it to court!"_
Why even go through the charade of a trial if conviction is near certain?
I live in Brazil and can confirm this
@@treck87 Are you implying that the amerikan system is betta?
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There is no perfect system, any online game balance will have its problem until the next balance.
The judicial system makes any updates for any reason within what time frame? Is any judicial system even trying?
@@laychyetan7466 it is though. Its almost purposfully imprisoning the innocent and letting the guilty walk free
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That is BS, it doesn't matter that there are flaws in other systems. One has to adress the issues in front, not point at others and claim it pointless. Also, I don't like calling people on grammar but your words make little sense, even for the internet.
@@laychyetan7466 definitely better than the japanese system....
I got robbed in Shinjuku last year. The police didn't want me to report it as a crime, insisting for hours that I report it as merely a loss. I finally caved when they said that if I didn't play along, my Korean friend, who was also robbed, wouldn't be able to get an emergency passport (which turned out to be false).
I also was robbed by a young lady who was a kleptomaniac and when her parents found all the stolen purses and wallets in her room and made efforts to return them, the police made me sign a paper saying I wouldn't press charges because the family made efforts to return my wallet to me...ok, but what about all the money she stole out of it and then all the fees I incurred getting a new residence card, bank card, and the like? grumble grumble. But I guess now hearing about the system in more detail, I see why her parents were trying to avoid it.
The police didn't think they could catch the guy and didn't want to stain of failing to find the thief to impact their numbers.
Pewdiepie even proves how “safe” Japan is by being robbed,
I feel like a lot of people forget that Japan is usually on the wrong side of history like how they where allies with the nazis and shit like maybe people should stop looking up to the country like they have their shit all figured out lol
@@Industry-insider there's something to be said for Japan's almost pathological concern for 'face'. Which is that even when you know the image is a lie, not everyone does. So it works.
It reminds me of the movie Hot Fuzz. The tiny, seemingly idyllic village hasn't had a crime in 20 years. But that's only because the villagers murder anyone who commits a crime and makes it look like an accident...
I like the movie.The fight scene was truly badass.Not bad for a British movie
The Liberal Democratic Party is Judge Judy and exetutioner!
IT WAS FOR THE GREATER GOOD
@@handywijaya3689 it's bad ass because it's mocking all the us over hyped action stuff
That's a spoiler mate.
My kids were friends with a Japanese exchange student and she was doing everything in her power to not return to Japan. She hated it there. That was almost 20 years ago and I understand that she is quite happy living in St Louis and working in a bank. It was very interesting lasting to her.
Now I realize that Psycho-Pass is an anime criticizing Japanese society.
Now that you mention it, you might be right
Phoenix Wright - Ace Attorney is also a scathing critique.
While yes, there is some initial comparisons, Psycho Pass goes much deeper than that.
psycho pass is what japan will be if you give it 100 more years of this bullshit going on
YES! FINALLY, we ned more of psycho pass
Someone said: Learn from Japan but never Replicate Japan
I think this sentence should make sense here
Otanaku Leana that guy was well said then.
@@otanakugaming3357 then it's definitely not true
(jk)
Makes sense. It's basically their motto too. But replace Japan with The West.
Replication was never possible in the first place
That's what the Japanese did and do with the West.
Rare earth at it again bringing attention to problems that aren't paid enough attention.
@ don't forget about the landscapes in the video. Beautiful Japan.
@@ginxxxxx Nice try troll lmao
@@ginxxxxx Dear gin: As an American, I feel that the Japanese legal system is none of my business. If the majority of Japanese citizens want to go along with this, then who am I to say that it's wrong ? Since 1500, White Christian Europeans and their descendants have destroyed cultures around the world and tried to replace them with "superior" European beliefs. I see this video as just the latest step in that direction. People in the West just don't understand that not everyone in the world defines "freedom" in the same way that they do. ... jkulik919@gmail.com
No, it's just White man's bullshit.
LMAO, dimwits feeding the troll
Judge: you are guilty for manslaughter.
80 year old japanese dude: Dude im in a wheelchair.
Judge: i dont care off you go.
Well, born in the 30s, he would be well capable of killing someone knowingly at the very end pf WW2
@@kekeke1201 an 80 year old man would have been born in 1940 and wouldn’t be in very likely to hurt anyone in ww2
@@BarginsGalore You know Japan pretty much sent every last man to war at the end of ww2 right? 80 year old man is probably unlikely to be in the war but as much as 86 it would have made it possible to be drafted. Plus they had similar structures like H-youth in Germany back then.
THAT'S WHY CHILDREN AS YOUNG AS 5 CAN GO TO SCHOOL. IN AMERICA OR EUROPE THEY'LL DISAPPEAR WITHOUT A TRACE
Ken Dingling in a nutshell
When the system cannot be wrong, it is meaningless when it gets it 'right'
I once read a fascinating book on the Yakuza and their very existence, to this very day, is predicated on the way the justice system works. In Japan, the severity of the crime of which you're convicted doesn't matter; once convicted, you're a permanent member of the underclass. Part of the reason for recidivism in any society is the inability of the ex-con to go straight because no one will give them a chance. In my country the U.S., it's due primarily to a lack of trust, a lingering presumption of guilt. In Japan, hiring a "criminal" is shameful; if you consort and support "those people," you are considered the same as them and knowing how "those people" are forced to live, no one wants that for themselves and their families. It would be not only a black mark on one's family name, but would bring rebuke from one's ancestors. The ONLY recourse for such castoffs, the only way to make ends meet, is to fully join the criminal subclass. After all, if no one will let you earn an honest living, your only other option is a dishonest one.
This has been the norm in the older generations but in the last 10 years, the prevailing views have changed a lot. Mostly led by the younger generations in Japan. Slowly they will enter politics and the system will improve further.
Joshua Moore Yeah pretty much. I dated a girl whose family (many generations prior to her) had been run out of Japan by the Samurai for their ties to the Yakuza. Granted, from what I understand they were not simply cooperating with the group, rather, heavily involved in it's functioning, but nonetheless, it's why her family is in America.
I never thought I'd say this but I'd prefer the American system over this any day of the week.
Just like being arrested in some countries, you get filed into the system forever no matter the accusation and that record will haunt you for the rest of your life.
illwitness the japan judiciary system was created to mirror United States , many modern japan culture were created by Americans after ww2 , for example Japanese work culture was created by Americans
"…calling it your job don’t make it right, Boss."
-Cool Hand Luke
*what we got here is a failure to communicate...some man you just can't reach*
'That's six pounds of eggs...'
I didn't know that one, thanks.
Just watched this on Netflix, good movie
Eyyyyy bosssss
So basically you're bullied into being guilty?
Bullied is an understatement. People are borderline tortured to confess even when they are innocent
@@m.richards6947 It is true that most trials don't get to court in the USA, but those who are truly innocent definitely have a good chance of getting their innocence proven if they do insist on taking it to trial. That is why prosecutions fight so hard to get confessions and plea deals in the first place in the USA, because they usually know pretty well that they are unlikely to convict beyond a reasonable doubt in the majority of cases.
Where in Japan, you may be far less likely to be charged with a crime in the first place - since they want to avoid getting embarrassed on their end - but once you are charged, say goodbye to any chance of actual justice or due process. I wonder if it is better or worse for foreigners like myself who visit Japan, because on the one hand we would stick out a lot more, but on the other hand Japanese individuals are significantly less likely to want to deal with us because the risk for trouble is much greater.
@@echomjp If you have the money, good luck with a public defender.
@@echomjp depends on your race, where the crime happened, and/or who you are for the United States. A white female cop in Texas walked into a black males apartment and killed him because she thought it was her own apartment. She got man slaughter and a hug from the judge who sentenced her.....
@@Turshin I'm not denying that such circumstances happen, of course. But they are far from being the norm. We have literally millions of people in prison in the USA, and for every person in prison we have countless others who do not end up there who interact with police or our justice system.
While I think our justice system needs a lot of reform, it at least gives you a fair shot at something other than a mockery of a trial. Needing police reform and accountability is related obviously to the larger issue of justice.
Edit: As others responded, intimidation tactics being used by law enforcement alongside public defenders being criminally underfunded and worked to their limits definitely are other issues that need to be dealt with.
This video reminds me of the phrase “ I was only following orders”
Bionic Turtle Damn. Too true
Ah yes, the classic ‘Nuremberg defense’.
I've been thinking about this.
Whatever you do, if your orders are wrong ethically, you're fucked.
"Don't follow orders you think are ethically wrong" yeah my ass.
You're fucked if you follow them and then you lose.
You're fucked if you don't follow them, even more if you win.
So between being fucked for sure and maybe being fucked, I would follow orders too.
they were on the same side as the Germans
Comrade Rajo thats your FUCKING opinion
This is the most striking theme that I took away from two years in Japan. In an effort to save face, there is a stunning amount of rot hidden below the surface.
Ahhh there we have it.
I was wondering how come the Japanese were not inflicted by the safe face at all cost.
I dare to think what’ll happen over there if the whole thing comes crashing down around them if they don’t AT LEADT TRY to fix thing from the ground up.
In Asian culture and traditions, reputation is everything and triumph over anything important.
Daniel Whyatt it already came crashing down on them. The companies/government felt such a rapid need to grow, that if they weren’t growing at tremendous rates it would be a loss of face. This caused companies to over leverage themselves to a very high extent. Almost 30 years of stagflation ended up being the result.
Stagflation caused a high level of depression. Depression combined with Japan’s suicide culture.... well it hasn’t been pretty.
Just look at TEPCO's attempts at saving face in 2011 #NotGreatNotTerrible
I've always been skeptical of the universal praise that Japan often receives and critical of a culture that declares the state infallible. It's our duty to question systems around us in order to better them and the society they are intended to serve, blind obedience never got anyone anywhere.
@@anonb4632 Except for how Japan's system is also slowly killing itself, with low awareness for mental health issues, overworking, and such
@@anonb4632 A hot mess where you live as human is thousand times better than living a cog in a machine.
@@わむら LOL expect it's not.
Well, when you couple this what the fact that there’s a noteworthy faction in Japanese government angling for historical revision regarding what Japan did as a nation to the rest of Asia during World War II, it says a lot about where the nation is at this point. You could even make an argument about how bizarre its culture and media can appear to outsiders being a reaction to the at-times stifling nature of its society. China isn’t exactly a shining paragon of justice either, just like how this country isn’t exactly what it advertises itself to be.
@@anonb4632 Well it's the responsibility of the people to remind every nation that their disgusting past exists, and that they must acknowledge and apologise for their history.
That judge that sentenced the innocent man to be executed sounds really weak. How can you send someone to die knowing full well they are innocent.
For a culture that takes pride in honor and their ancient warriors that whole sentiment of never speaking up against injustice sure sounds really cowardly.
Warrior honor in Japan was about loyalty and duty to one's lord/ group, not so much about standing for what you believe is right
@MinecraftPro15 Suicide isn't honorable... maybe he wanted to, but what about his family?
MinecraftPro15 Isnt it only honorable to commit seppuku if you were unloyal to your own group or fucked something up for them? like if he freed the guy and got fired for that? He likely didnt feel any responsibility for the man he had convicted
@MinecraftPro15 Seppuku is an archaic barbaric practice, and is seen as such to modern Japanese, because they're not the lunatics they were back in the 1700's
@@specialopsdave 1945* generals and other officials of the army in ww2 do seppuku
Has Japan really "handled" its homeless problem? When I was there in the early 90s, it was a verboten subject. Homeless people were basically ignored and weren't counted. In their minds, at the time, they had no "homeless problem". When I was there, I didn't see many, but those that I did were sights that will stick with me for the rest of my life... :/
Check "Life Where I'm From" channel. You will find there a 5 part document about homelessness in Japan. ua-cam.com/video/eK--oCVP18A/v-deo.html
@ you have the problem backwards. The homeless in Japan are not a problem, not Japan doesn't have a problem of homelessness.
Out of the sixty or eighty homeless I saw downtown near major tourist spots (on one trip) only one tried beginning from me. They don't leave trash and will actually pick up other people's litter. I have no idea where they go to the bathroom, but they don't even seem to piss in ally ways. The homeless do not interact with "normal" people. No one seems to reach out to them, there are no homeless shelters, not re-entry programs, I am not even aware of a soup kitchen. The homeless population have no presence in Japanese society because they are ashamed to be homeless, and seen as less than human. A sort of wild animal that roams around, but doesn't bother anyone. If I were to guess part of the reason the homeless population is so low is because social pressure to keep a job is so high. That and the high suicide rate. I would rather have the chance to get in a homeless shelter and get a job again, but risk prison, than just be viewed as such an abject failure that I couldn't even commit suicide, and have no real chance to get back into society/work.
last time I went to Japan was in 2016 and homeless people definetely exist in Japan, they just sat under a bridge with a million business people and tourists walking past them. They didn't beg for money, didn't have a cardboard sign that said please help, they just sat almost blending in with the darkness. The only thing noticeable about them was the smell.
Im sorry to go off topic, but I wonder why you wrote "verboten" instead of "forbidden"? Are you german or is this word actually used by english speakers?
IndestructibleMadness Use of the word 'verboten' by non German people has the connotation of its use during WW11 Nazi regime.
Ace Attorney gave me a soft version of the harshness of the Japanese legal system.
Persona 5 told it like it is.
So i guess the thing that Joker gets in interrogation is japan reality on police officers. Damn
I was thinking of that exact seen where they beat his ass in the jail cell, I didn’t actually think it was like that in Japan.
Fucking weebs.....
@@Sarcasshole shut the fuck up
hey you know what's up
A lot of people don’t realize, “Conviction” does not equal “guilt.”
Conviction: having been declared *guilty* of a criminal offense by the verdict of a jury or the decision of a judge.
Quinson just because someone says you’re guilty doesn’t mean you are.
True Gopnik gotcha. That makes sense.
@@truegopnik6591 In that case "acquittal! does not equal innocence. This is the problem that I have with these kind of assumptions; guilt and innocence, as determined by the judicial process, becomes variable in validity based on the subjective opinions of each individual.
For example, in rape and sexual assault cases, here in Ireland, accused men will very often go through a detailed court process, be acquitted as innocent, yet still, somehow, be considered guilty. The reasons often given for this is that "just because someone is found innocent in court doesn't mean they didn't do it!" But that places these men in an intolerable position because it is simply impossible to prove that you DIDN'T do something; basic logic states that you cannot prove a negative! It also means that guilt, in these kinds of crimes, is based, not on an objective analysis of the facts, but, essentially, on the basis of one persons accusation (regardless how plausible!)
The opposite is also true in sexual assault cases involving women as the perpetrators in Ireland. In the vast majority of such cases women, even when convicted of appalling abuse and neglect of children, are treated as much as a victim as the actual victim on whom the crime is committed. Often you will find hundreds of people campaigning on behalf of the CONVICTED female perpetrator, in order to have her released, for reasons including "she was pressured into it by a boyfriend" or "she was abused as a child"; excuses that are simply not available to any male perpetrator convicted of such an offense EVEN IF THEY HAD EXPERIENCED ABUSE AS A CHILD. The real reason why women get treated so differently is because, in the majority of peoples minds, men will ALWAYS be the perpetrators of sexual violence (and all men have a propensity for it both physically and emotionally); they will NEVER, EVER be the victim unless they were prepubescent children at the time of the offence and did not, themselves, commit offenses as an adult. Similarly, women are ALWAYS victims when it comes to sexual violence, or, when they are involved, their actions were always controlled and imposed by a male figure in their life. In this way, a very simple "truth" is ingrained in the wider social consciousness; men are perpetrators, women victims. Anything that goes against this "truth", like facts and evidence, are ignored or undermined because humans find it very difficult to accept they are wrong and that their attitudes need to change.
It is within this context that the absolutism of court outcomes needs to be upheld. Yes, where there are mistakes they need to be rectified, but this needs to happen within the courts system, not in the wider public imagination. Yes people can campaign for their interests to be safeguarded, but this need to be guided by facts and evidence, not conversations on twitter.
Sorry for the rant, but I studied this for years and it still annoys me.
@@arfnore a) you can prove a negative e. g. modus tollens
b) OJ
Long story short: basically the system is light yagami
Made my day and its kinda true
You could not be more wrong. because at least Yagami won't torture you and will give you the sweet release of death.
If Yagami was like the system, he would write your name in the deathnote and then add next to it "But only after 30 years of torture and a signed confession which includes praise to the system for being so effective"
and i feel like that's the real dark part. but love the comment anyway, +1
@@ThatOneDude7 I kinda think that makes the system somewhat inadvertently effective, combined with the repressive culture of Japan they make sure no one even attempts crimes without either being 100% sure they won't get caught or coming to terms that they'll most likely be in prison for a really long time. That's why Japanese crime is so odd, the one guy who stole millions from a candy company and was never found, that one guy who stabbed 11 children, the terrorist cultist who gassed the trains and so on.
Meep Meep Robbery is rampant in Japan but they just never get reported. The POLICE will advice you not to because they most likely can’t find the person. They’ll even bribe you if you’re a foreign just to keep their stats squeaky clean. I would know I was robbed 3 times within 6 months and each time was advised to report it as a loss instead of a robbery. Broken system cares about face than justice.
@@ThatOneDude7 Na, you really think they wouldnt want to just kill criminals if they could? They wouldnt need to build prisons, they wouldnt need to spend money on feeding and housing prisoners. Light is definitely the system, most of his victims are the people who the system finds guilty.
I had too much respect for Japan when I was younger for I’d studied Japanese mysticism & philosophy. I even considered living there. But after studying its social & legal system, I came to a conclusion that broke all my fancy dreams.
Japan is so beautiful to observe for most of the non Japanese.
Let them be so.
It's a nice place to visit yeah.
yeah robots are nice,clean and orderly but I would too like live outside the factory.
@@pawanadhikari7178 They also have a low birth rate one of the reason is Japanese people work 6 days a week in 10 hours a day it seems they are working himself to death
@@Mad-wv6ol
those are rookies numbers.
When I was working there I worked 12 hours 6 days work periods. The japanese regular workers even more. they seem to be utterly convinced that longer hours = productivity, when I was there they were just running around pretending to be busy and their subordinates were the ones doing the actual working.
@@johnzkeePW yeah, Japanese people are seemingly fantastic at "pretend work" for the sake of boosting their work hours, which is a HUGE contrast from where I live (Sweden) where if you're salaried rather than making an hourly wage, you're not gonna get chewed out by anyone for just working 4-6 hours some days as long as you actually make those 4-6 hours productive. Many Swedish companies measure productivity in how much work actually gets done per hour rather than how many hours someone works in a day.
I actually heard this statistic before when UA-cam recommended a video related to foreigners having issues in Japan and a Japanese lawyer fighting this injustice, the problem isn't that nobody is fighting against it, the problem is that nobody dares to openly speak up against it.
Capitalizing Every Word Doesn't Make Your Statement Any More Or Even Seem More Intelligent Compared To Leaving All The Words Uncapitalized And It Actually Takes More Effort To Capitalize All Of The Words Opposed To Not Doing So
Man fk the foreigners, they can leave anytime, the japanese natives got it tough they should be fighting that shit for themsevles
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Japan doesn't like foreigner did you see what the paul (yea that paul that goes to the forest in japan) he is not even forgiven
so here I was, thinking deadman wonderland was a dystopia, turns out it's just a historical document.
ye, me too
Wow, now that I heard all this, I might understand why prosecutors in games like Phoenix Wright: Ace Attourney are portrayed like they are: As people whose only desire is to get a guilty verdict, no matter what.
Yeah the games are defo based on Japan's system
Prosecutors are always like that. Lawyers are corrupt as shit everywhere. The main thing I notice about Phoenix Wright is the “guilty until proven innocent” thing, which is different from America.
@@cokebear1337 It's the exact same as in America. Only difference is the optics.
@@ninjacell2999 Fun fact, Japan had the "One guy decides the verdict" system during the first games development, and that was replaced with a jury of judges by the games release. They just never changed the games visual design to reflect the change.
@@cokebear1337 For example in Germany a criminal judge must actively determine whether the accused can actually be the culprit. If he has doubts as to what actually happened, he must have further investigations carried out. (This is called "Amtsermittlungsgrundsatz". :>)
The prosecutor is also obliged to investigate not only incriminating but also exonerating circumstances.
1) Good to see you shining a light on the more shameful and often ignored aspects of Japan
2) I like your narration and presentation style, it's slow and laid back and not in-your-face, it's less about you and more about the subject. Bravo.
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It is easy, with all of its apparent modernity, to forget that Japan missed the renaissance and most of the industrial revolution - and was a feudal society into the 1860s. It is easy, for a foreigner, to be completely unaware of how much the feudal mindset still permeates Japanese society. Or to see the more visible aspects of it as quaint or "weird" but ultimately inconsequential.
Not gonna lie bud, I prefer their way. Been living in Japan for a little while now and it’s growing on me.
wayfaring stranger lets hope you never get in trouble due to unforeseeable circumstances.
@@jamesleon4883 I certainly hope so too mate.
@@wayfaringstranger5957 You can enjoy most of Japans culture and social norms while also disagreeing with the obviously horrible justice system
Ah yes, the "enlightened" west...with all its achievements(read: scams) like democracy, equality(on paper)... so much better. In fact so much better that most western countries won't make it past this century. A f-ing charade, all of it.
In Japan, they make you admit the crime no matter what, and when you admit it, it’s gonna be used against you in the court
why youre the only here with a japaneese youtube name? if someone uploaded something about germany you can be sure the whole comment section is german, no matter which language the video is. btw: found 2 comments from you and right now here are over 6700 comments... i only found yours.
Wrutschgeluck well that’s because I’m Japanese lol, you can probably see me replying in Japanese to a Japanese comments
@@四季-i5k I think they were more perplexed by the fact there aren't more Japanese people in this comment section.
Radstark yeah well that’s prolly because majority of the Japanese don’t even understand a bit about English I guess
@@四季-i5k Weird, I thought it was quite common.
What languages do you guys study there? I'm genuinely curious since I come from a country where English is "kinda" taught but no one really cares much about actually learning it. I know I could just look it up but I think having information about a country from someone actually living there is much more valuable.
The Japanese legal system is the Cardassian Union, the State is never wrong.
Go to Thailand it will nauseated the fuck out of you.
Yeah, and look where that got the Cardassians. Half their population killed, Cardassia scorched, and their Central Command uprooted.
I love reading Cardassian crime novels. It's not a spoiler that everyone turns out to be guilty, because they are always guilty; the fun is trying to figure out whom is guilty of what!
@@CardboardSliver well. That happened to Japan too.
@@CardboardSliver just like wwii...
This put a lot of things about Ace Attorney into perspective....
Fuck that game is lenient on the actual Japanese system. In real life there is no penalty it seems.
@@switchplayer1016 That game is for the Japanese market. The intention is to "glorify" the defense attorney (in the eyes of Japanese youth) as a counter balance for a reality, where there is no defense at all. How we in the west see this game is not even a secondary concern for the creators.
Ace Attorney, Persona 5, Judgement (Yakuza spinoff)... Hell, even Death Note took a stab at Japan's messed up legal system. The fact that multiple Japanese games focus on it as a central issue feels very indicative of its real life severity. Yikes...
(Also they all taught me that friendly brown-haired detectives obsessed with "justice" should *never* be trusted, but that might be just a coincidence idk)
CelestiaLily
Jake Peralta
Ace Attorney was written specifically to satirize the ridiculousness of the Japanese legal system
This legal system is basically the equivalent of
” I'm right cause’ I said so!”
It just works
The most unquestionable system because questioning it is unethical in it's culture
Inspectah Depressed underrated subcomment
More like I'm right because of my status/position.
Which isn't that strange when you think about it. Courts in the US for example decide what laws mean, even if that meaning is contrary to the wording.
Certain sciences do the same, they decide what is true by deciding what are the facts.
and I would also say the yakuza is way more responsible for the low crime rates then the justice system. If you commit a crime you better hope the justice system catches you and not the yakuza. They also take in a lot of youth that would otherwise become street criminals.
Simple answer :
Other legal systems : Innocent before proven guilty.
Japanese legal system : guilty before proven innocent.
So, even if you are 100% innocent, you still guilty in front of the judge unless you have a "100% perfect proof that cannot be challenged by the prosecutor"
@ocelot. except that even the witch trials were fairer than japanece legal system, the witch trials get a lot of bad rap and misconceptions, it wasnt like you could literaly just scream (she is a witch) and the person was inmediately burned, you actually had to present evidence of your claim and if it was inconclusive or not enough the charges were dropped and the person liberated, for example the soo famous spanish inquisition never burned someone thats a story, the modern imagination of the witch trials are a exageration
So yeah, you had more probabilities of surviving a witch trial than the japanece juridical system, talk about broken
It's actually worse, the police can and will intentionally withhold evidence that could exonerate the accused, and a lot of times an alibi provided by family members "doesn't count" as a real alibi
So even "100% perfect proof" isn't always enough
It's not even that in Japan. It's guilty until proven guilty.
Persona 5 suddenly makes a ton of sense lol
As do Light's ambitions. Not to mention L's methods of catching Kira
Yes, I though Sae was a bitch. Now I see she was just your average Japanese prosecutor. Still a bitch though.
@@ignacio4159 sae was in the process of becoming one of those prosecutors, but you stopped her before it really got out of control
Jesus, imaginé the amount of palaces that exist within the japanece jurodical system
@@ignacio4159 Hence the casino, dude. It's a rigged game.
Idk much about persona 5 besides some of the music but can someone explain this for me :)
The Olympics are in Tokyo in six months. There is potential for a lot of light to be cast on the Japanese justice system.
I would argue the opposite. In China they shut down industry near the Olympic stadium for like 3 months so the sky wouldn't be so black from pollution. Japan is quite a bit more dedicated to looking good, they would gather people up and exterminate them before they would allow strife during the games
I hope they lock up lots of criminal foreigners, especially bakachon and chankoro troublemakers.
They'll just play the clean up song and stuff it all under the rug and in the closet while the guests are here.
@@Carewolf Russia are idiots lol. I wouldn't trust Russia to cover up a table with a bed sheet. They'd forget the dog was sleeping under it and he would pull it all down
I'm sure they'll take one look at Baltimore, Detroit and Chicago and understand how wrong they've been lol.
Interesting topic. A Norwegian woman in Japan was arrested a couple of weeks ago for receiving a package with cookies containing drugs.
According to her family, she doesn't drink or do drugs.
After watching this, I know she's doomed. Innocent or not.
Unbelievable. Locking someone up for a victimless crime, regardless if they actually committed it.
Yeah my parents and family also didn’t think I drank or did drugs, nice try though
so, why did she received the package?
@Hoàng Nguyên Her family hired some super lawyer, but I don't know any more than that.
@@prototype2889 Who knows, does it matter? I find it very interesting that I could absolutely ruin any random Japanese person by sending them a letter with some drugs.
It's super fucked up.
Imagine being a lawyer in Japan, most useless work ever
And in fact there are very few lawyers in Japan. Not just because of the criminal side... Japanese people almost never settle disputes through lawsuits.
@@nbartlett6538 How do they settle?
@@halotrixzdj battle to the death
kamikaze or harikri
@@duringtherapy Kamikaze is suicide bombing, did you mean seppuku/harakiri?
Bro no joke you don't even want to spend a night in a Japanese jail, you'll be crammed into a cell with 15 other prisoners who can't speak japanese and are from very poor areas of asia.
@Smoke Tree yeah a human definetly didnt write that
@@rubyruby7573 I can't help but notice your keyboard's run out of punctuation. You're welcome to use some from my buffer: (... ;; :: ?~! -- ,, )
@@rubyruby7573u mad bro?
@@rubyruby7573 you need a psych eval
South Park song: Well I'm in Japanese prison Lawd
Japanese prison got me down
Said I'm in Japanese prison Lawd
Don't belong here, my eyes are round.
You really nailed it when you mentioned Confucianism as the root cause of this cultural refusal to question authority. You see the same pattern in Singapore, China, Korea, Taiwan and Hong Kong (though the latter 3 have moved significantly towards having a quasi-western ability to challenge the authorities in the face of injustice - think the democratization of S.Korea and the current HK protests).
And sadly, it is so ingrained that many (particularly the older generation or the less-educated) are either silent, or actively complicit in their own subjugation.
I dunno about the others but I know Korea well. Korea is 100% influenced by Confuciuism but definitely influenced by Western society as well. Peaceful democratic protests are common. There is much debate between different parties. People have a wide range of opinions and are quite vocal about it
I have lived in korea all my life and i can tell you that like 99% of all koreans hate their authorities with a burning passion. Maybe it's just a different strain of Confucianism. Maybe it's the more chaotic and painful modernization process. Whatever it is, we all have mistrust and skepticism about our government.
@@hyointheforest Oh I agree. I actually studied a lot about the Korean experience of moving from authoritarianism democracy - it took a lot of things acting together to overcome the cultural bias towards submitting to authorities (the Gwangju Massacre is perhaps the most obvious example), and arguably also the western influences of religion (many authors point to Christianity as playing a role) as well as the liberal leanings of the university-educated. To me, South Korea is one of the success stories of enlightenment over the cultural imprisonment of Confucianism.
@Hoàng Nguyên The risk of being a successful socialist country is that there is always the chance the U.S. will come to kick your shit in to prove socialism doesn't work.
Confucianism is a double edged sword.
It also emphasizes that authority must be benevolent to the subordinate and ensure the prosperity of the people. Also access to education and the importance of knowledge and studying.
Sure it's sexist against women and emphasizes heirarchy, but so are people in the west. They just pretend there's no heirarchy and women are equal.
Western universalism.
The moment you notice, that Kira killed a lot of innocent dudes
They were all guilty of being Cardassians!
*hands*
@@sethh8339 hes not talking about that kira
Only about 2,000 in Japan. Game Theory did a video on it.
Grubnar 🖖🏻
Sae Nijima in Persona 5 is a prosecuter in Japan and just like he explains in this video her job is described to as one to obtain the truth, but to convict the accused. If you fail to convict even once as a prosecuter, say goodbye to your whole career.
A persona fan i see!!! Same here and I agree
Psycho-pass becomes realistic a setting when you understand what this man described about the Japanese government
KNChoudhury does that mean Phoenix Wright is a false representation of the Japanese legal system?
@@creativeartstudios6792 Phoenix Wright is satire of the Japanese court system
Mr WizenWheat this correction appeared faster than anticipated. Thought I'd get a few hours before i got this response lol.
Psycho-pass is looking more like political satire than sci-fi with this new information...
Was searching this.tnk u!
Your next episode should be on how Japan keeps their homicide statistics low by reporting the results of murders as "unclaimed bodies" rather then as "victims" and opening a case. A case that would make things official, not get solved, and thus bring down their average.
It's a weird category they're excelling in against all other national statistics especially since it's a classification most nations don't even have. It's like a whole county of people that just 'forgets' corpses face down in random ditches on the edge of town. Because that's a totally normal thing to have happen all the time.... :P
Soooo basically.... You can easily get away with murder so long as you know how to frame it that it would take some work to convict you? Scary thought.
Interesting
Crime stats are not always reflective of what's actually going on. Another big one is Sweden's supposedly sky-high rape rates. In reality the numbers are pushed up massively because kidnappers who rape someone repeatedly over a long time get charged for each invidual instance.
Just as terrorism is "part and parcel of living in a big city." ~Sadiq Khan, mayor of London
@@professionalmemeenthusiast2117 No, that's because Sweden imported the third world then blamed the victims.
The greatest tyrannies on earth exist in places with this type of mindset where the unspoken social peer pressure reduces people's morality to that of sheep,...following orders.
That's what working class is meant to be. Hive mentality is dictators and proles' wet dream, except for different reasons.
Meanwhile the middle class is shunned by both them for being selfish on one hand, tax evader on other hand.
Someone from the US, connected to a Japanese University, randomly sent a Norwegian foreign student there, some pot cookies...she was then jailed for over a month without access to legal representation. And had her studies ruined. There is a stigma of being arrested in Japan. They don't care if you are guilty or not. The government of Norway got involved. Once her lawyers were able to meet with, and interview her, and investigate the facts and the investigation, the Japanese police had to drop the case. Another example of Japan's legal system losing face.
suddenly Psycho-pass made a lot of sense.
It does add even more layers of meaning to why it tells the type of story that it does. Super smart too, since the series is clearly drawing parallels to thier actual society, yet framing it as a fictional future with non-existent technology being responsible... Rather than directly shaming and calling out the real life systems
@@doll_dress_swap12 yea, they do that a lot in anime, social commentary underneath a cool story and setting
pip Pop especially the “do not question the system” mindset
So what you're saying is that the Judges are analogous to the psychopathic brains in the series?
Sibyl seems way more fair too, and that's dictatorship!
“Not in a robotic sense, but in a social one.”
Yeah no. It’s robotic. I appreciate Japanese culture VERY much but it has its flaws. One of them being that it puts conformity above everything else. This is good for getting things done but it is very bad at checking wether it should be done.
Ironic that the pressure to conform ends up going backwards and creates the weirdest shit on the planet lmao.
Andrew Panin absolutely. It just represses the natural urges to express oneself. It doesn’t eliminate it.
Japanese culture is a big pile of rotten stale shit
@@markomarkovic5460 Hey, now, we can point out the faults in a society without labeling the whole thing dysfunctional.
Compare Japanese society and socio economic conditions in all indicies with respect to other countries.
"They're not doing it because it's a mistake, they're doing it because it's their job"
@@GabrielMartinez-tc6yf Just like flat earthers, when you add just a moment of rational thought to this claim it becomes ridiculous lol
Jimmy Crickets idk dude, the Pope’s Minecraft server lookin kinda phresh doe.
@Jimmy Crickets If you become a pope, then you can beat them from the inside out. Double agent pope, see?
The the title should be “why every defendant are guilty”.
*is
Yeah, I mean... a criminal is guilty by definition, not just in Japan.
@@JannPoo yes but in Japan you are guilty from the get go, in america, you are innocent until proven guilty
I half expected "it's illegal to be accused of a crime"
It's illegal to be criminal in Sweden
If I accuse my accuser of accusing me, do they also become accused?
Is it a crime to accuse someone?
The US Military is resistant to the Japanese legal system for these reasons. Our personnel stationed in Japan are protected from this horrible system, and this has angered the Japanese people.
@@rubyruby7573 'they hate us cos they ain't us'
@@rubyruby7573 well japans history is LITERALLY worse than nazi germanys. Even nazi allies stationed in china were trying to stop the absolutely barbaric and inhumane treatments of the chinese at the hands of the japanese.
@@rubyruby7573 in addition to your post being totally incoherent, your annoying habit to capitalize every word's first letter makes it even harder to read.
@@rubyruby7573 ....You. Are officially either cracked, or one HELL of a troll
Troll he tried to hard and forced it with the links .
"If they're not guilty then why were they accused?"
-Gus Johnson
Which video did he say that in?
@@iamnotinvolved1309 Reddit video
Because they're frammed by the real culprit?
That's fucking stupid tho, so is it guilty until proven innocent the running theme right now? That's twisted af.
Edit: just google him, he's a comedian, so this is sarcasm right?
The answer is , money . That's a fact in the USA. Look, even our president who is a citizen is not receiving due process . plus all things being said against him is hear say. I think the peoples of any country need to redu their justice system if you wanna call it that . How bout teaching people who commit an offense of small proportion to not reoffend and find out what's wrong .
Which it's wrong to lock up someone who has mental health issues just because people want money and or lock up . Nope your creating an animal who is 100 times higher risk to reoffend, plus be smarter at criminal behaviors or just down right vengeful blood thirsty . Thus wanting blood instead of acting out for help. Thank you and have a wonderful life.
Being accused of something makes you already guilty. Like for example, even if you didn’t do anything at all. But then a woman screams and accuses you of sexual harassment, the police wouldn’t want to hear your side and only think of you as a miserable person trying to deny what you’ve done. They are gonna tell you that you are so shameful for trying to escape it and even make you admit it no matter what. Even if you managed to prove your innocence the people around you will just think that justice wasn’t served.
Also, even if you were a criminal and was freed from jail. You won’t find any job cause people think you’re a criminal no matter what and even if you convince them that you’ve changed they will still be concerned about hiring a “criminal”, they won’t see you as a fellow human and you most likely to get mistreated and discriminated once they know you have a history.
Jesus. It’s really that bad?
@@Sckeza in murika it is
I mean second part is true in america as well. If u have criminal background, you cant work. Even minimum wage jobs wont hire you. Logic is if there are many competant people competing for a job, why hire one with criminal background and that logic is very understandable tbh.
That’s America as well bro
LazyBones Most likely not to the same degree, but still bad
"They're doing it because it's their job."
Hannah Arendt's "banality of evil" idea came to mind when you mentioned that. All of my comfort in Japan was shadowed by understanding the benefits of my foreigner status and the leeway it granted me. Imagining living in that society as a native wasn't nearly as comfortable. Stricter adherence would be required.
Live in a society
@@赤マント-z7z do you also believe we live in a society?
Yeah, you got the Gaijin pass.
Hanna Arendt is great
They're
"In a sense" sounds a heck of a lot like "innocence".
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Japan's legal system: Mom, I got a 99% on my conviction rate, 😀😀😀!!!!
Asian Mom: What happened to the other 1%?????
JLS: It's like the other 99%s. The system doesn't allow for perfect scores.
Hiroto Miyama is working on the 1%. Sorry, the Japanese actually have a TV series about the issue...
@Al Castill poor you, i have 101% 😏
More like what about the .02%
But didn't they say it was 99.98% in the video? That's hardly the same as 99%.
I’ve been playing some Phoenix Wright games and this added a whole new context the premise of the game, it makes the whole games so much more complex that your a defense attorney fight against the prosecution each with near perfect conviction records.
Huh. A video on Japan. Where the journey with this channel started couple of years ago. At least, for me.
Just, as horrifying.
Now, I wonder, what I might not know about my home country. It's easy to see the far away place of extremes and gawk at them, but...
Donato di Niccolò di Betto Bardi that’s a very humble and open-minded way of looking at it
Better not let the state catch you talking shit man you might get convicted
Nice insight. Some people talk like it's their duty to fix other countries, while neglecting their own.
@@krunkle5136 I'm glad you have found it useful.
And, well, even on a personal level... Our own problems often may feel insurmountable, while those of others seem like something, that can be easily (and already should've been) fixed. Both assumptions are biased, but reverse probably wouldn't be true either.
We may have a lot to learn from outsider perspective and their trust in our strength to deal with our problems, while they would appreciate us for not diminishing both their problems _and_ the efforts, put into dealing with those.
You are an above average specimen of Humanity.
This felt like hearing that Santa isn't real for the first time.
this,
It was shocking, but not surprising considering the history of Japan...
Esben M you know, all the raping, the inhumane human "experiments", the "first to kill 100 prisoners with a sword" contest, etc.
Never learn meet your idols kids they will always disappoint.
except do because otherwise you will fall into blind hero worship.
@Esben M Imperial Japan.
I had heard that Phoenix Wright was a critical parody of Japan's law system but I never knew it was actually T H A T bad >_>
Same. I'm sad to admit that game is how I found out about this
"Research what you see on youtube, Don't let anyone think for you" Good statment
Literally everything about this does not sound good at all.
I tell ya h'what
Hank Hill I agree, hank hill from tv show king of the hill
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@Jai Rey did you not watch the video?
Jai Rey are you an idiot?
I got a MasterClass ad for your dad.
I'm very glad, not even mad.
CodeKillerz same
I wonder if this is intentional
same
same
This is the dark side of honour, shame and collectivistic conformist society. Some these thing are not really Japanese but part old east Asian Confucian social order. In honour and shame society, the individual is never an individual but part of a group. You are what people see you as and your action always represent the whole group. An honour killing or suicide is an extream way person and group can become free from the shame of individual misdeed. In some way, a Japanese prison system is a form of honour killing as a way of cutting a source of shame from the whole group and creating a class of outcast.
The dark side? There isn't even a bright side. Their philosophy is messed up and inhumane.
It happens in most of Asia.
FrostyAUT
Not really
philosophy
Unexpectedly though, in this day and age, "honor, shame and conforming" State-societies will outlive and outlast the pseudo-liberal and declining 'West'.
@@snowfrosty1 lol no. The only true advantage a democratic system has is its longevity.
The group mentality in Japan is awful
It's not group mentality, it's faith in the "system" whatever that is.
specifically its called a collectivist ideology. As a westerner myself I am inclined to agree. Japan take collectivism to a insane and somewhat disturbing degree.
Socialism at they finest
@Sushant Kumar why? What aspect of capitalism this collectivist system have?
@Sushant Kumar we are talking about the justice system, that is independent form the government and form the economy.
Japan is implementing socialism ideals in the court and because of this they legal system is broken.
Each individual need to be punish solely for his own act, not for a third party. What you will think if they charge you guilty because something the neighbor did?
I was wondering why did youtube recommend me this video after watching a series about the harsh life in the dystopian Imperium in Warhammer 40k. After watching this vid, that recommendation made sense.
I feel this
Me too, after extracredits dystopias.
If the grass looks greener, it's probably because there's more shit in that yard.
Edit: this is the first comment I've ever gotten this many likes on. You'd think I was a sage or something, sadly I'm not.
Ronald Schmal 😂
Aint that the truth.
By far the best quotes in 2020 🙌
I’m not sure what that means exactly but it sure sounds good lol
this comment is gold.
Now I understand why Carlos Ghosn escaped from Japan
And since japan hates foreigners, the charges were probably bullshit.
bluewater Carlos was so guilty! Check the story of his mariage at Versailles !
He escaped because he s rich and because he could!
@@tatsumakimojo5502 He was already rich. An extravagant marriage is not a crime. That's not evidence at all. Typical Japanese.
They kept releasing him and re arresting him and had over a year to try him. This was a shake down operation. I don't blame the guy.
@@tatsumakimojo5502 So what if he was guilty? The Japanese justice system is a joke. Whatever he had done he deserved a fair and impartial court case. He did not get anything like that. It does not seem like anyone is getting that in Japan.
Frankly I think he was innocent. I have not faith in the Japanese justice system. They seem able to just make up charges. With such a system you never have any confidence that there is any truth to the allegations.
I believe INNOCENT until proven otherwise. Hence I will believe Carlos is innocent until a sane justice system can evaluate the case.
@@humansvd3269
You don't blame the guy? Maybe you should. This man is a tax evader. The Japanese justice system is harsh, but hat does not make mr Ghosn any innocent.
If any of y'all are disillusioned by this, you should check out the judiciary preceding after the Murder of Furuta Junko.
I looked it up on wikipedia, and I dont see anything remarkable. What happened with Furuta?
@@whirlwind872 She was a Japanese teenager with a promising future who was kidnapped by fellow classmates, and Tortured to death over the course of 40somsthing days. The Murderers were only caught because a few of them were overheard bragging about it.
I won't go into the details of what they did to her, you can look them up, or imagine the very worst.
But her murderers we're all given light sentences, 3 received sentences of 5 years and one a sentence of 8 years if I remember correctly. All of whom are now free, with the exception of one who is back in prison for another murder/rape. The last known photo of them is smoking weed and enjoying themselves as free men.
@@snakey934Snakeybakey Punishment doesn't undo the crime. If the rate of that kind of stuff happening is low (relative to other countries), then the system is working.
It's the 0.2% bro haha
Eh i mean the 0.02%
A good video as far as it goes but you missed an important element: the Japanese police and the lack of rights that suspects are afforded. Suspects can be held without legal counsel for up to 20 days and interrogated using extremely oppressive techniques. That's a recipe for getting false confessions. Put those confessions before a compliant court that thinks highly of the police and you have a recipe for wrongful convictions. There's a good chance that most people convicted in Japan are actually innocent - or, at least, have not had a fair trial find them guilty beyond reasonable doubt.
ACAB
What an absolute sham of justice
I know it is a few months since you posted this, but a good example of what you just said is the case of Toshikazu Sugaya, who spent almost 20 years in jail for a homicide he did not commit. He “confessed” while under interrogation because the police beat him up while he was in their custody.
@@cjm8160 Cases like this happen in America as well. I’ve seen multiple examples on the documentary series Forensic Files.
The problem with the prosecutor's view is that they see acquittal as "losing."
Not merely "losing", but "losing face", which is not the same as being embarrassed or even "ashamed" by Western standards. More like "You've fundamentally failed to do your duty, you've dishonored your parents, your boss and your country, and you've created disorder and disharmony in our great society." In a Christian society you'd simply confess and come out clean on the other end, but Confucians don't believe sins can be forgiven; you simply carry them around until you die, and then they just float away. It's why Japan will give you 20 years for marijuana possession but they still venerate the graves of war criminals from WW2.
@@jasoncarswell7458 i doubt it has anything to do with it being a christian society or not.
@@galarstar052 Nothing is a "christian society" nowadays, but the west was built on the foundation Christian beliefs and moral values, around when Constantine made it Rome's state religion and it was spread out to the rest of Europe and later America. It may not be the belief system everyone espouses today, but you can't deny that Judaic moral values are heavily steeped in western society.
@@SemiOmni314 i guess but at the same time that comes with it's own problems, it's not a perfect moral system either.
@@galarstar052 which one do you prefer then? Guilty untile proven innocent as seen in Japan or innocent until proven guilty espoused and grounded in Western countries?
Japan needs to reform their justice system.
This makes me never want to bring my family there for vacation.
Most countries wouldn't let Japan take their citizens, you'd be fine.
You're falling prey to fearmongering. It's not that this isn't an issue, but it should not stop you from visiting Japan. As long as you do your due diligence to not break their laws, you have nothing to worry about and the country is very nice.
@@LilJbm1
This video detailed how even if you don't break any laws, you'll be almost certainly punished if the police think you have, which kinda goes against your point of "just don't break any laws". That's not how a 'justice' system should ever work. You probably won't go through their legal system, you'll just be deported back home. But there's still a possibility of your visit being ruined and money being wasted for no reason.
@@LilJbm1 He might want to go due to a lack of approval for their system, rather than fear.
I personally wont visit due to this, more out of a sense of disapproval of their systems and a refusal to validate it with my presence, than fear.
@@isaacsorrels4077 I mean, your "lack of presence" won't really change anything because they won't care, and shouldn't. You're a foreigner that can have opinions, but they don't have to listen to them.
It is a shoddy system with flaws, but every system has flaws and you shouldn't let that determine how you live your life. That's all I am saying. If this makes you not want to visit Japan but you really wanted to before, then eh okay. You're missing out on everything else the country has to offer over principle (which is your prerogative, it just won't change anything and you deprive yourself of an otherwise life-changing experience).
That’s why Carlos Ghosn made sure he got out instead of being prosecuted there.
smart move
funny because he escaped three weeks after this video was posted
@@AA-ok5jz Ph, they reported and decided he was guilty? How is this any better?
We will never know and honestly, nether government has any moral right or legal standing due to they corruption.
Yeeeees, Rare Earth for breakfast, shout out to the Aussies and thanks for all the great episodes, really enjoyed them all.
That loyalty to one's group among the Japanese is insidious. And don't get me started on the inherent racism. The word 'inhumane' doesn't begin to cover it.
Where can I find more about the inherent racism?
Boo fucking hoo
Japan is one of the most racist countries in the world, along side China
@Jai Rey theres always one donkey devils advocate
@Jai Rey Japan is a highly ethnically homogeneous country, and that is indeed a recipe for racism (it's also the excuse their government uses for why they don't do more to combat racism). No-one's saying that all Japanese people are bad or anything of that sort; don't get so defensive.
www.japantimes.co.jp/opinion/2018/06/03/commentary/japan-commentary/face-reality-racism-japan
Wow I feel really different about Japan now. I didn't realize this happened.
I guess you haven't read about Japan during WW2 yet :D
Japanese society is pretty damn fucked up
@@v0ldy54 i thought that was only in anime or their wierd culture but i gueSs not
If you go to Japan as a westerner, you'll discover that old japanese people can be just as racist as old western people.
This is actually happening right now to an innocent girl, Ingrid, who was living in Japan. She's been detained without access to family or a lawyer based on the fact that her roommate received a package supposedly containing marijuana from someone outside of the country.
docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1hA8ReAU4cNkuf94UYlxfDdU8kVE6_VoHhjWhpwrmZQE/mobilebasic
*I've never been to Japan and only recently did I started learning about their justice system. But even before now, something about Japan had never seem right with me. Their suicide rate.*
*As a Nigerian, Japan is like an advanced futuristic society we can only dream of, so it bugles the mind to hear that people also commit suicide and at a very high rate in a country that seem to have everything one could possibly dream of. That made me to know that something is wrong.*
*Then the 2009 recession happened across the world. I read reports that sex and pharmaceutical drugs sold the highest in Japan during that period. I began to wonder how depressed the people are to the point of thinking of sex and hallucinogenic drugs and aphrodisiac during financial crisis.*
*It made me to even question their aesthetic perfection which the rest of the world envies.*
*Then finally the Nissan CEO had to escape Japan. That's when I began to learn about their legal system with 99% conviction rate.*
*Clearly, the grass is not always greener on the other side.*
There is no perfect world. Only better one.
“Face” in Asian cultures can sometimes be illogical, in all aspects of life, be it at work,social,family settings. A good example are couples incurring heavy debt at the beginning of their new life together for a lavish wedding they can’t afford just because of “face”.
Ahhh! Is that why they do it? I live in Sydney Australia and every single time I go into the city by the harbour, around the Harbour Bridge, Opera House, Botanic Gardens, etc, there is inevitably at least 3 or 4 different Asian couples having wedding photos taken by a professional and a group of 'helpers' with them.
In Malaysia we have a word called "air muka" (literally meaning face water) which means personal honour or dignity
That's not even an Eastern culture thing, Japan isn't special lol
This seems to be the case in other aspects of their culture as well. I remember seeing somewhere than in japan even if you are laid off from a job while having no fault of your own youre still supposed to apologize to your employer or boss for not being able to do your job. To "save face" in a way.
@Martin Beck Bruh whatchu talking about? I think the UK is the European country with the longest uninterrupted government at like 450 years and that's if you don't count Ireland and Scotland as part of the UK.
Came straight to this after reading about Carlos Ghosn escape to Lebanon, and his conference that basically shed a light to Japan's justice system.
Overstepping law enforcement is the Biggest issue facing developed nations currently. Its modern day slavery in my opinion. Unless you’re a violent criminal, theres no reason you should be locked in a cage.
it depends. I wouldn't want to forgive a filthy burglar.
I wouldn't go that far. I understand the sentiment & agree with it to an extent -- for instance, I think we should legalize the use & sale of recreational drugs.
But, there are some legitimate crimes in which real harm is done even if nobody is physically injured. Look at the 2008 housing market crash, for instance. Or look at someone like Bernie Madoff.
Capitalism is the best economic system we have figured out so far, but it has its limits, & the free market truly is not very good at determining value. For instance, to the free market, a successful scam is much more valuable than an organization caring for disabled adults -- even though the former is an obvious detriment to society & the latter is an obvious boon. So it goes with the formation of monopolies & the corruption of politicians, judges, & laws. Capitalism only works with strong legal frameworks & punishments that ensure the incentives align with what would actually make society better.
you shouldn't think of it as slavery. it cost most developed nations tones of money to detain these people. The idea behind it, is that these people are actively doing damage to society. and rehab is supposed to change that.
@@davidmcrae4791 Yes, but the system doesn't rehabilitate its prisoners. People walk in criminals and walk out either unable to cope with the outside world or hardened into absolutely violent criminals.
WishingPole
Locking people in a cage with a bunch of criminals doesn’t rehabilitate anyone. If anything it perpetuates gangs and racism because you’re often forced to join a gang to stay safe(most gangs are race based, especially in prisons). Our current system is beyond broken. Why do you think recidivism is so high?
I had a double major in Japanese Studies. Learning about laws in Japan had my jaw on the floor. Especially the laws for how you convict someone for rape
Yep. The burden of proof is on the rape victim, she has to prove without doubt that she did not "want" to be raped.... Very fkd up.
"There is no such thing as a plea of innocence in my court, a plea of innocence is guilty of wasting my time. Guilty." - Inquisitor Lord Fyodor Karamazov
Most people won't get that reference.
@@TheMylittletony SHUT YUR MOUTH YE MILKSOP BEFORE I WOLFIN' SHUT IT FOR YE!
@@TheMylittletony "The Brothers Karamazov" by Dostoyevsky. Who also wrote "Crime and Punishment."
I knew this from having asked police for help in japan and realized it didn't quite work like back home
So what happened?
I want to know what happened as well.
Me three
What happened?
What
Happened
havent clicked this fast for something in awhile, looks like youre in the same place as that video covering japans untouchables
Nobody:
Closed Captions: “Crimmmmmmmme”
For a moment I had to check if this is English CC.
Anyone wishing to learn more about the often unspoken dark sides of Japan's history wod do well to look up a video by Knowing Better.
Just search "Knowing Better Japan" it'll be there.
I know plenty people say he makes fairly good videos. I'm one of those people that watched his 4k debacle and cant being myself to really trust much of what he's saying anymore. Maybe I'll give this a shot though for at least more context i the matter.
He is a joke!
If you’re coming to UA-cam for 100% factually correct videos then you’re usually wasting your time.
People like knowing better or oversimplified are a good basis of information but you should always look at a second source or read some books written by people who are qualified in that field
Knowing better is known for quoting out of context. You should not trust that guy.
The dude can be a good source of information, but his bias is very evident in some videos. In a video about the 2nd Amendment, he conveniently left out the fact that the American Revolution was sparked by the British trying to seize gunpowder/weapon stores at Concord and left out numerous quotes from the Founding Fathers with regards to firearm ownership all while claiming to understand the context under which the 2nd Amendment was created.
We'll see what Phoenix Wright has to say about that... *objection*
or, what we`ve learned: Phoenix Wright couldn`t exist in Japan!
One of the reason Phoenix Wright was such a phenomenon in Japan is that it portrayed something that didn't really happen there.
@@--ART3MIS-- Phoenix Wright lives in an alternate version of Los Angeles tho
@@FrenchToast663 only in the English dubs. He's based in Toyko in the original Japanese releases
@@thomasm.creamer2728 An unnamed city presumed to be Tokyo.
While Japan does have low crime rates crime is also underreported there.
Yeah, that's what he says at the end of the video
Why is dat
@@papastalin1543 because the polices want to keep the face of the country, so crime is not often reported to make thing seem good and peaceful
@@ucnguyen6375 damn that's dark ,media and government don't hold back here when it comes to crime in India . Opposite to Japan we openly talk about crimes instead of hiding them
So most weebs here came from psycho pass and death note. Meanwhile I came from Jujutsu kaisen to understand the Japanese legal system and dear God is it horrible.
*gets a ticket for speeding over 2
Gets placed in prison for 2 months*
Funny thing you bring that up.
I'm a policeman, so I see the System a lot. It's not always perfect, it's often not pretty, but I have great faith in it. Why? Because we have limits and rights. We have attorneys, appeals, trials, juries, evidence, and so on. All that even comes to traffic court. I've had people there on tiny moving violations, and they're affording an attorney and an interpreter if they need them. I have to also convince the court of their guilt with actual evidence of both the crime and the process having been followed. In America, the burden is on us, the state to charge, press, and convict. In Japan, the burden is on the accused to prove they didn't do it. Quick! Convince me you aren't a drug trafficker? You aren't one and you have no drugs you say? Lies! And of course you don't have them on you, they're elsewhere! Because you can't prove your innocence, you must be guilty! In the USA, if I accused you of possession with intent to distribute, i'd need probable cause to stop you, to alert dispatch, find drugs of the right quantity, arrest you, book you, write a report, recommend the pressing of charges, share my evidence with the defense counsel of yours, and show up to court to argue my side while you are allowed to argue yours with a lawyer who is there not to serve the state, but to protect your rights. And if you are convicted, it's because we had a solid case, not that you couldn't disprove a negative.
There's another reason we have trials even for obviously guilty bastards who do things like post videos of themselves raping children. We protect the rights and process of everyone. It's so that justice is as fair as possible. Believe me, I arrest guys like that, and I want to just turn off my body cam and blow their head off "because I was in "fear for my life". But I can't. I have to follow all the proceedures, all the rules, grant them all permissable reasonable requests. That way, when judgement day comes, their lawyers can''t have the case thrown out for our impropriety, and we can't be in trouble for violating their civil rights. When that piece of shit gets 65 years, the guilt is absolute and total, proven without a shadow of doubt, fully and fairly.
It's for this reason I have a healthy respect for Internal Affairs officers. Sure, they're guys you only see professionally when things suck, but they make sure we follow the laws and don't persecute the citizens. Because when we do that, trust and cooperation goes down, the community doesn't trust us and our job becomes harder and deadlier. I also have a respect for Defense Attorneys. I could not stand up and defend aforementioned babyrapists, but they have their rights and they need to be protected so that we establish no precedent for allowing injustice of convenience or cruelty. They also do a good job of making sure the innocent are protected and not punished. They aren't amoral villains making it so that we can't send the pieces of shit to prison, they're making sure only the correct people go to prison, only for a fitting duration, and that any possibility of their innocence or incompetence has been properly explored so that we know it is the right perpetrator and the right sentence and the right crime when we convict people.
And if we don't convict, we don't consider it a professional defeat. Our boss isn't going to haul us up for a screaming session about how we made him look bad, unless we violated rights and proceedures, in which case, no cop will argue that it was undeserved, and odds are there's a prosecution and a firing coming our way. We accept that we can be wrong and that there absolutely be innocent people in our net. That's why we have the process with rights and regulations for everyone. That's why speeders are guaranteed an attornye if they wish, and why even baby rapers are permitted a chance to testify.
The punishments are not the problem; it is the probability of being falsely convicted. You will not get two months for a speeding ticket, but if you were falsely accused of speeding then you will certainly have to pay the fine.
Sounds like Virginia
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Court. Take it to court. Any judge will throw it out. From it not mattering, to being well within the margin of error for a legally calibrated speedometer, to it just being a waste of time. Nobody cares and the judge will give an on the record lashing to Officer Karen for dragging you there.
@@Mortablunt I’m talking about Japan.
When you said "in true Japanese fashion" I thoughyou we're gonna say he pulled a seppuku in his quarters lmao
Persona 5 basically says everything about this.
Azophi facts
Completely true, Persona 5 also shows the nature of capitalist exploitation in Japan.
@@VerticalhorizonXL yup ...
It also has a green tentacle penis monster in a wheelbarrow.
@@NoNo-dq4mc Which is *also* very prominent part of Japanese culture
Innocent people sitting in jail:
Yakuza: *laughs in Japanese*
Yep. First time someone addresses this in yt for me. Have known about that for some time, never got good data on it. Glad u took the time
the Japanese people be like: "we are the system" okay chill down skynet
Lio Local Chibi Thief Remember Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
They have had two judgment days.
😂😂😭😭
Makes me glad that the Americans nuked them, and completely destroyed their ass. Japan’s worse than China, when it comes to the legal system and that’s not even a joke.
@@erichkaufmann5284 The few positives to Japan are the following:
1. New and better technology every day
2. Environmental consciousness
3. Aforementioned safety
4. It has some form of democracy
But the destructively crushing society will destroy Japan forever
_By the time he was released decades of draconian prison life had left his brain so addled that he couldn't even comprehend the tearful apology. The damage had been done. Justice had been served._
That's not justice, and to say it is turns justice into a farce. If Japanese punishment is that terrible, it is a crime against humanity, regardless of guilt.
For any human to force anything on another for any reason is wrong.
That justice is in air quotes for sure
Ruby Ruby PUNCTUATION IS A THING
Ruby Ruby plus the burden of proof being high? The burden of proof is a yea or nay system, either the prosecution has to prove it or the defendant does, in most courts the prosecution must provide evidence
Ruby Ruby plus while the amount of proof required is high, if you get a confession it’s an instant conviction. While this may seem fine on paper, in Japan if you get arrested first off, you face a 36 hour long interrogation where you get no food or water, then 23 days in a cramped space that would fit 4 people but instead has 6 while being malnourished and facing low temperatures without so much as a coat. It’s no surprise that almost all cases end in a confession
2:50 that’s a perfect example of an collective culture, “loyalty to one’s group” it can be a family, society, or the whole country. To this day this culture is still very common in many Asian countries.