D-Day Nearly Fails - Operation Avalanche - WWII - Part 2 - Extra History
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Operation Avalanche was not going well. Body counts were quickly adding up and the allied invasion of Italy at Salerno during World War II was looking like a failure. Objectives were being taken back and forth multiple times a day and green allied forces suffered against veteran german soldiers.
The Forgotten D-Day was coming to an end.
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Battle of the Somme vid?
Please do Texas revolution please extra history
When you get to lies I hope you can talk about the British soldier with the Bow and Arrow.:)
Please do a series on the Korean war or Vietnam war Extra history!
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Viewers unfamiliar with the Salerno landings should note that the British beaches and troops mentioned in video were part of 5th American Army under the command of Clark. They landed in the Salerno area and were not part of Montgomery's 8th Army that landed much farther south, in Reggio Calabria. a week before the Salerno operation.The distance between the two points by road today is around 400Km. Both 5th American Army and British 8th Army had units from many nations.
Thank you for the further context, I was not aware of this distinction
*spoilers
@acetous99, I doubt there is anything more coming for this series.
@@sarasamaletdin4574 I think you're right
How long is that in miles
04:01 "a group of Sherman tanks" **shows an M10 Tank Destroyer**
"and tank destroyers" **shows a group of Shermans**
I think the art team had the right idea but the editor made a mistake.
They try. Animatiom is hard
@@AlechiaTheWitchYou couldn't be any more right.
Quite possible that it was simply said out of order compared to the script. It happens.
The important thing is that they got both in there.
@@balls9420 just animating a 8 film pixel art takesna good 3 hrs
I like that you put Jack Churchill in the video one of the coolest people in ww2
so that was his name
Jack Churchill was a complete madman
I havent even watched the video yet but i remember watching a video on him
Theres a reason people called him Mad jack
Marching into enemy fire with bagpipes
Using a fucking sword
@@Anne-py1lt with the last confirmed longbow kill
@justanotherguy321 im only paraphrasing but i believe he said something along the lines of
"Any officer that goes into battle without his sword and bow is improperly dressed"
He ran around with a bowla hat, unbrella, sword and bow
The most british soldier that ever lived
@@Anne-py1lt also he wanted the war to keep going because of how much fun he had. He said that they could have kept the war going if it wasn’t for the Americans.
Its a bit odd that for all the discussions of how hard amphibious assaults are - there seem to be remarkably few cases of one being repelled entirely, or called off mid-mission. The Diepe raid comes to mind as a failure, and while the Brits eventually gave up at Gallipoli - took quite a while for them to leave. The Battle of Crete was costly, but not a loss overall.
The thing is, amphibious assaults are so hard that those that succeed in getting on the ground are already far ahead and have solved many of the biggest challenges. Which are the ability to land troops on foreign shores, and to supply those troops. If you can do both of those things, you can usually hold on a long time, even if the landing fails.
It's a bit like landing on the moon. It is going to be very rare to see rockets explode on the moon because rockets that explode usually don't get that far.
They have an inherent advantage for the attacker. The attacker chooses where they are going to land. The defender has to spread out,covering all possibilities. And even during a landing the defender can only pull so many troops from other places in case the landing is a diversion. That's one of the reasons why the landing in Normany succeeded. The Allies were able to make the Germans belief that Normandy was just a diversion, that the real landing would be at Calais.
And as long as you have enough men to send in and are willing to take the causalities, an amphibious landing will succeed.
It’s probably because they’re so risky that almost no one will attempt one if they don’t have a clear advantage. As a result, you mainly are left with two kinds of naval landings: those that succeeded, and those that were discarded.
@@jordinagel1184 Pretty much this. As we see repeatedly throughout Europe and the Pacific in WWII, neither side ever seriously considers a major amphibious landing unless they already have an overwhelming military advantage. The defenders are stuck with the choice of either making their stand near the beaches (thus facing the full might of the attackers' naval power) or waiting to counterattack until the attackers already have gotten most of their superior forces ashore. The Japanese in particular tried multiple variations on both those ideas, but could never overcome their massive disadvantage in military power in those battles. Of course, as with Salerno and most of those Pacific islands, the outnumbered defenders can inflict disproportionate casualties even in defeat.
@@jordinagel1184 This but also, it means if one is attempted there is usually great need for it to succeed so the attacker is willing to throw every thing they can at it to make it a success, so reinforcements are usually quick to arrive, diversions & deceptions are very common in support.
Do I see a Mad Jack? Yes, yes I do.
Would I love an episode on him one day? Yes, yes I would.
Yes you did. I noticed him too
4:28 "Any officer who goes into action without his sword is improperly dressed".
@@mrwho30 My man was playing For Honor while everyone else was playing World at War.
Him and Leo Major. I want episodes on both of those guys.
I find it disappointing that as a Texan I never learned about this until now. After doing a little research I discovered that there is a monument to the national guard unit in Salerno. As well as a Texas armed forces museum just outside Austin.
Thanks for this video, never expected to feel the pull of history like this. Usually it’s all about the Alamo or a snipet from the Mexican American or Civil war.
I completely agree from one Texan to another
Texas State Highway 36 has also been designated as the "36th Division Memorial Highway".
Inexperienced troops… oh they gonna lose… from Texas… oh they gonna win
🎵 "A short man from Texas, a man of the wild." 🎵
I think its intereating that of all the national guard units they chose texas, thats gotta be a testament of yalls's reputation. I see it as like you guys are the american badasses like australians or Gurkhas as the commonwealth badasses if that makes sense
Gotta love Mad Jack Churchill at 4:26
Was the inclusion of a British Ranger at 04:28 a reference to Mad Jack Churchill, by chance? If so, nicely done.
The one with the longbow and sword? Yes.
I love that reference
Same I noticed too
I noticed it too
Thanks EH for giving us these short but in depth analytical vids that they don’t teach us in schools.
The near failure Salerno told the Allies that if we we’re going to take Normandy then we need to avoid making the same mistakes.
Shame no-one thought to relieve Clark of command as his strategy was the failure & the improvised actions of unit commanders are what held.
Mark Clark was one of the most effective US generals ever, ending WW2 as the youngest 4-Star General in its history, not to mention being appointed Supreme Commander Allied Forces in Italy. During the Korean War, (1950-53) he was United Nations Commander for the final 15 months of that conflict.
@@calmvibes3709 can’t see how
@@Alexthealright The two traits most desired from an officer in the US ARMY are aggressiveness and decisiveness. No US officer in that era would ever be reprimanded for decisive action that ultimately resulted in victory.
@@calmvibes3709 sure I’m just saying that firing a bunch of officers to cover your own ass isn’t exactly a promising sign
@@Alexthealright it’s only relevant if you lose
The real problem with salerno was his geography. Just look at any picture of it on google or maps, and what you see is a city built like a triangle, one side on the sea, and the other 2 with mountains covering it. That made it incredibly easy to defense, and terribly hard to push forward to capture it
Love the Jack Churchill cameo at 4:23!
"An officer who goes into battle without his sword, is improperly dressed."
Was wondering if anyone else saw mad jack
Extra history tried to sneak in mad jack churchill thinking we wouldnt notice.
Man was insane for fighting with a claymore sword and a bow and still won
Damn for a sec I thought he placed claymore explosives on a sword then I remembered what a claymore is and the story you are taking about😂
@@dolphin8397 its ok, when I first heard this story I thought he fought by using the claymore explosives and not the sword
My grandfather was involved in this operation and his story is a little different. Also for the first half of the video the drawings you were calling Sherman's were actually Wolverine's (a very distinctive turret).
What he told you?
Yep, you know your gonna have a bad day when a survivor from stalingrad is fighting you
Been playing the game it is very good and 4:23 mad jack reference
Jack Churchill was a madman, but an excellent officer.
"American Sherman Tanks" *pops up an M10*
"and Tank Destroyers" *pops up most of a platoon of Shermans*
lol
4:25
"Any officer who goes into action without his sword is improperly dressed"
- Mad Jack Churchill
I love that little easter egg
4:03 I guess extra history flipped images because a Wolverine was shown first then Sherman's, when the Sherman's were mentioned first
it is not a Hellcat it is a M10 Wolverine
@@goldenheart6793 thanks for the correction
Here in Brazil we always remember the Italy front, because the participation of our own soldiers. But the FEB (Brazilian Expeditionary Force) enter the War only in 1944, and take no place in the matters of this vídeo.
Impressive to think that, while a costly victory, the events of the Forgotten D-Day helped to inform how better to perform the more historically known D-Day
Texans try not to be giga chads (impossible)
Texas National Guard pushing forward despite near insurmountable odds? Appropriate then that this episode drops on March 2: Texas Independence Day.
Loving that subtle reference to Mad Jack at 4:24 😂
I love the silent reference to Mad Jack at roughly 04:30
As always matt another awesome entertaining video Great job matt you help me understand history in an easy fun way
Great to see the Allies soldering on to get things done! You guys rock!
They're heating tin and lead together to make a connection?
i love the detail on 4:27 of the britisch commando holding a bow. look up jack Churchill he is a real mad lad.
It’s a creative lighter touch like having a couple mad jack cameos through the video that makes me love this channel ❤
Keep up the good work ... I love history from the days of early breach loaders to cold war
At 4:26, is that a cameo from Jack Churchill? Fully equipped with longbow and claymore?
Hopefully, we get more of him soon
5:20-5:37 that sounds awfully similar to the tactics employed by the Maori during the Tauranga campaign (particularly at Gate Pā)- the difference being that the Maori could simply make their own hills to bunker down in before retreating and doing it all over again
4:24
John Malcolm Thorpe Fleming Churchill
aka
Mad Jack, the man who fought with a longbow and a sword during WW2.
when you say ''a group of sherman tanks'' you actually show an m10 tank destroyer
I think the editor got mixed up or something because immediately afterwards a group of three Shermans pop up when tank destroyers were mentioned
Yeah, I think the animation and editing got mixed up because then it says tank destroyers, and a group of Shermans pops up
If you watch the whole clip, he says "a group of Sherman tanks and tank destroyers," while the graphic shows an M10 and then a group of Shermans. Obviously the animation just showed them in a slightly wrong order.
@@clonescope2433 yea
It is my understanding that my grandpa was a combat engineer at both Salerno and Anzio. He talked about having been part of multiple D Days, but I didn’t understand it at the time.
4:23 Nice "Mad jack" reference.
Please do Texas revolution please extra history
The new art style (as opposed to the normal) looks quite reminiscent of the commando comics and I like that
4:26 is that Churchill I see?
Love the cameo by Mad Jack at 4:28.
0.14 Ah yes the signature trope of the fairy tale literature;
Machine guns.
Yes, I know he means the tower - just having fun with how the script worded it ;)
an ancient greek ruin with bullet wholes, i would love to that
Thank you for showing history in a neat way! Plus I only briefly learned about Italy in WW2 in a millisecond in school.
I love the reference to Mad Jack Churchill in the middle of it
You forgot to give Jack Churchill his bagpipes, too!
I wonder if the aspect of the agreements made between the American army and the local mafia to facilitate intelligence work will ever be explored in this series because for us Italians it is a very peculiar and ambiguous subject where the mafia (bad) helped to liberate the country (good)
They may be criminals, but they're italians criminals :p
Texans and Italian mafiosos working together. Aint that a sight to see
Minor thing that i find funny (no offence, extra history crew!)
"A group of Sherman tanks" *shows M10 Tank Destroyer* "And tank destroyers" *shows a group of Sherman tanks*
Nice video!
I knew Salerno sounded familiar! My great uncle was in the 36th infantry division. Damn, he was in this battle.
That username of yours caught my eye and gave me a good chuckle lol. Thank you! God bless! ✝️ :)
Love the Sneaky Mad jack references!
Lmao that British commando with a longbow
the High-effort art sprinkled through the vid adds a LOT of qualty
4;25
I see you, “Mad” Jack Churchill !
Imagine how much worse the attack would have been without Lucky Luciano's help.
THAT MY MAN JACK CHURCHILL AT 4:33 ?!
Thank you Jack C you got me an A in my leaving cert history project!.
One of my cousins was in the 10th mountain as a AT soldier in Italy he was in North Africa before invading Sicily and then fought all the way to the outer edge of Germany where he was KIA
Nice video
In the Osfront, a battle with 16k deaths was usually reported as 'today there were clashes with the enemy' : P
"some light skirmishing"
>40k KIA
Because that on the Normandy Landings veteran units was the Spearheaf
I recommend the war memoirs of Spike Milligan. A hilarious and often tragic account of tunisia and italy.
Good little detail of Mad Jack Churchill XD
love the little reference to hoplites
Hey it’s Churchill!
A really said story from the Italian POV: every day for 20 days in June a British mosquito plane flew over Salerno, following the trains and the railway system, the Italians living in Salerno knew “him” well, children would come out to see the plane, they even gave it a name “Ciccio il ferroviere” (cicco the railroader) it never did any arm to the city, nobody ever excepted it to, the days passed, from the first to the fifth to the 19th, everyone would go out to see the plane do it’s regular run, the 20h tho, even tho it seemed like every other day “Ciccio arriva!” The kids yelled, but this time the plane had something with it, it dropped a bomb, killing one unlucky civilian, but it returned a second time that day, but this time with its friends, and so, the bombardment of the railway system that went through the city itself and through the railway workers’ houses began, killing many innocents, especially unlucky workers, it was only the first of many, it only getting worse after the Germans stubbornly refused to leave the city, this made the allies, the British especially, start bombarding without care for what was innocent or not, using timed and cluster bombs on the entirety of the city, it was so effective in fact, that the buildings of the city today have almost nothing in common with their pre war selves…
2:00 Two Arms!
Was that... Was that a Mad Jack Churchill reference I saw?!
04:24 I spy Mad Jack Churchill!
PANR has tuned in.
This is just amazing
4:01 Very minor, but I think the voiceover was meant to be said in the opposite order. When you say "A group of Sherman tanks" an M10 tank destroyer shows, and when you say "and tank destroyers" Shermans show :P Thanks for the vid friends
that commando with a bow jack mad churchill nice detail EH nice detail
Was that mad jack churchill with his longbow and bagpipes I saw there. You guys at extra history are awesome.
The defense of the Italian peninsula is an interesting part of WW2 that I don't remember getting much (if any) attention in my high school history classes. Thank you for these informative episodes.
God be with you out there everybody. ✝️ :)
Thank you for the video.
I appreciate the Mad Jack Churchill cameo at 4:23
"A group of Sherman Tanks and tank destroyers"
Shows them in opposite order of mention.
Only in Extra History!
EDIT: 4:30 CAPTAIN MAD JACK CHURCHILL!
4:02 "A group of tanks and tank destroyers"
[Shows tank destroyer, then tanks]
My dad landed on Blue beach, made it thru the initial landing but was wounded in later battles
got to love history and how things could go one way or the other with the slightest change of decisions
Shoutout for Operation Mincemeat too!
"A group of sherman tanks" *shows an M10 Tank Destroyer*
I jest but I can't help but stickle a bit
Here’s my question, why didn’t the army learn form the marines in the pacific? And I know basically everything was different between the lands at tarawa and Italy but no major takeaways?
They referenced A brit named Mad Jack Chruchill
In B4 someone who doesn’t know about Magna Graeca complains about 0:28
Oh hey, good to see you there Jack Churchill
Unrelated history fact: the reason why Italy didn't get Dalmatia after WW1 is because Serbia didn't sign the agrement letting the Italians have it. And because of that after the war, Yugoslavia had every right to take over Dalmatia.
Can you please upload your videos to Spotify as podcasts. I would love to listen to them while at work. I just can't watch videos on my phone while at work!
One correction, The US command doctrine didn't treat relief of command in WWII the same way as anyone would expect, it was not a demotion nor a matter of 'scapegoating' but a matter of having an inappropriate state of mind for the immediate combat or for simply being ill suited to combat under those conditions. Most would simply be assigned command of another unit somewhere else or work in the headquarters to accumulate any wisdom or intelligence which might make them more effective when they are returned to command.
Using anti aircraft guns as cannons sounds fucking badass.
4:02: “Sherman Tanks,” *Shows an m10, “and some tank destroyers,” *Shows a Sherman
I have a good idea for an extra history video.. about the Greek ruins that were near the beachhead..
4:27 Hey! its Mad Jack Churchill!
An absolute nightmare.
4:01 that is a M10 Wolverine 3-inch gun carrier tank destroyer not a M4 Sherman, but very close to one since the Wolverine was based on the Sherman
4:23 ...Jack Churchill was here...! 😅😱😈☠
The Saltwater Crocodile is the largest extant reptile.
I'd like to see some more videos on ancient history. It feels like we talk about World War II on this channel a little too much.
Think you got to blame the sponsors for that one, most of the world war II based series on the channel were directly sponsored by one or another historical war game.
4:03 looks more like a Wolverine tank destroyer
I would love a call of duty or battlefield game on the invasion of Italy