How an 8th Seed Made it to the NBA Finals
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MDJ why would you buy that shirt tho
I think yes it is possible for an 8 seed to win the title under the following circumstance. If a very good teams top 1 or 2 stars gets injured early in the season but recovers in time to make a playoff push or comes back during the 1st round of the playoffs. That's the only circumstance where I can see a really good team fall to the #8 seed.
Vladimir Guillermo Cancino Aravena like if in 2015 when KD was injured and if okc got in the playoffs they had a good chance of going to the finals and winning it
Came back after the 2023 Miami Heat became just the second 8th seed team to reach the NBA Finals. Anyone else present here? This one's for you, MDJ. We missed you. Please come back.
I’m here
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Miami Heat made it 🔥 took another 24 years on a fairly regular season, what an amazing run !
How a bust turned in to the MVP by getting a haircut
The Elfrid Payton story
Did you just a bust.......
He legit did tho, had five straight trip Dubs in March and averaged 16 points, 13 assists, and 12 rebounds in those trip dubs
@M no one cares
"They are the first and only 8th seed team to make the NBA finals"...until 2023
I wouldn’t mind more failed superteams videos (2013 Lakers, 2014 Nets, 2018 Thunder, etc)
as a Nets fan...I don’t wanna be reminded of the 2014 Nets...we are still feeling the effect of that team 4 yrs later
Adam E definitely wanna see a Lakers version of that
Yea even the 04 Lakers with Gary Payton and Karl Malone.
NBA LegendZ you suck
funny how the 2014 nets 2000 magic 2004 and 2013 lakers 1999 rockets tried to form super teams and because they failed their teams went into tank mode the next season after finals expectations...crazy world ...
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And here we have the MIAMI HEAT🔥
its happen now. congrats miami 2023 eastern comferrence champion.
This video aged well
This is one of the best basketball channels on UA-cam. How do you not have 100k subs yet
Facts
Adam E mdj's BBB shirt makes me want to unsubscribe...
Frank Dux Don’t
The best IMO, not biased and very analytical
A2 Videogamer I know. Mdj and Andy Hoops are my favorite
Hey, we can all make jokes about the Knicks, but they did something incredible in 1999.
Even after almost 2 decades, this run by the Knicks is still an unbelievable story.
Blackwatch I agree man, I'm a Heat fan and they beat the Heat when the Heat were the 1 seed if I'm not mistaken. That was back when the NBA mattered because real men play for the love of the game, nowadays it's premadonnas. You'll never see a 8 seed making it to the Finals in this era sadly.
Brandon S because of guys like KD
they werent that incredible..they weren't a real 8 seed..they had 27 losses going into the finals..the 2011 heat had that many loses going into the finals with prime wade bosh lebron ..heck the 2 time defending champ 2014 heat had more losses in the regular season than the 1999 Knicks had before the finals including 3 playoff rounds..the heat again won the east...think about that...the 99 Knicks ended the year with 31 losses...the heat had 32 losses going into the finals ...
funny how they have gone from 2001-2019 cause they wont make the playoffs next year with kristapz out and hobbled so 19 seasons with 1 playoff series win..smdh..for ny..thats a shame..the jets knicks islanders and mets are garbage...the giants nets yankees and rangers exist to balance it out
Asmosis Jones But. .the other teams still had better records, right? Besides, the game played were less because of the lockout
And here's come the Miami Heat😂
Jimmy & the Heat became the second #8 seed to make the conference finals, can they be the second to make the Finals?
They are now
Houston & Sprewell one of the
Most underrated Backcourt duo in NBA History
americanfresh17 sprewell played the 3
@@kingsleyjackson8287 point forward
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Houston was overrated
85 your mother is overrated
my greatest moment as a Knicks fan. especially when spreewell stood up all mad at the bench and took off his warm ups and threw it on the floor demanding the coach to put him in. Knicks was trailing and sprewell kept sinking 3s back to back and then orchestrated a fool proof fast break run with long range passing Charlie ward's QB skills that was so hard to defend against. it was Cinderella story. the old and worn out grandmama came out of no where and made clutch shots Allen Houston's buzzard beater. dude that was a very emotional season. the NBA is not the same.
Shortened season. That’s the main reason, in my estimation. This was a very experienced roster. Had they played a full 82-game season, they probably would’ve finished higher in the standings. Still, what they did was extraordinary, though not as improbable as, say, the 1995 Rockets.
‘95 Rockets had two Hall of Famers, the second best Center of all time, and played against an inexperienced Magic team.
@@Ptrickmore one HOFer was past his prime and they had to defeat the four best teams, by record, in the entire league. The Magic were inexperienced, but the other teams they defeated were not.
My favorite knicks team of all time. Houston the mid range gawd
Houston the man with the best nickname ever. H20
Ewing didn't play in finals against spurs;
As a huge knicks fan in the 90s I was so excited when we had spree and Houston with Ewing ... still came up short which is so hard to imagine with those 3
They’d definitely come up short considering Ewing was hurt and old, as they face the Duncan-Robinson Spurs.
Miami might be that team this year…
"The Knicks front office was an utter disaster".
Nothing has changed since.
Facts
*2021 Knicks have entered the chat*
@Arnell Smith Trae had a great playoff run but that doesn’t take away from the great job the Knicks (as an org) did.
Did yo wear an BBB ??😲😲
Goran Stojanović nigga ain't a big baller .. he just a mimic
Mock draft ?!!!
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Finally a video bout my knicks
AJ Knowz Boxing your Knicks?
I J I swear I hate when people say that shit
@@kevinpangos3787 My knicks
@@kevinpangos3787 casual fans always hate when people say 'our' or 'my team'. its coz you arent invested / not a real fan of a team. AJ could probably run you out of the building in a sports debate. hate it all you like bitch, jealousy will get u nowhere
San Antonio was just too strong for us... It was sad but still, it was admirable. Probably my best memory since I was barely around the time when Ewing was in his prime.
I think had Ewing not gotten injured it would have been a different series. Spurs frontcourt was just too big.
Henny Lopez Camby, Ewing, and Thomas on The Twin Towers would've been almost a push, the backcourt favored the Knicks, more so.
If Patrick Ewing was healthy, the Knicks would of probably beat the Spurs. The Knicks was like a 2-3 seed masquerading as an 8th seed that year. Tim Duncan simply dominated Larry Johnson (6’7) who was way smaller than Duncan (6’11). A healthy Ewing and Camby together would of Matched up way better against Duncan and Robinson twin towers.
Just to add to the Phil Jackson thing... A big reason Van Gundy wasn't fired was because Patrick Ewing privately and publicly said he'd rather have him than Phil.
That was also a big reason why the knicks didn't give Ewing an intetview for their head coaching position - even tho he's the best player in team history - while Phil Jackson was president. Also, owners hate him cause he was the President of the Player's Union.
S K interesting. What more can you share?
Mark probably got the best cheekbones in the game
Damn steve kerr won back to title after leaving the bulls in 98 to win it with the spurs in 99
Technically, 4 in a row, coming off the Bulls 3-peat.
It was a short season & the team had to build its chemistry. It came together after Allen Houston hit that game winner.
they may have been a 8 seed but they were 10 games away from a 1 seed ..and like 4 from a top 4 seed...they would of been at worst a 5 seed in a normal season...injuries killed them as did chemistry on offense
I remember this series. The Knicks dominated the East playoffs minus the heat series. I remember in the Finals they practiced the trophy presentation prior to Game 5 in New York. Larry Johnson said "Ain't no trophy lifting tonight" lol
So happy you finally made a video on this team
I have eight seeds, but none of them made it to the NBA finals...
Yet
besides the 99 Knicks
Golden state will win it this year
These days, eighth seeded teams will be lucky to win a game because they simply have no hope against these super teams.
An 8 seed could upset a 1 again. But it has to be the right 8 seed - someone that had a poor regular season (injuries, trades) but things come together come playoff time.
Things I haven’t heard before that you say in this video:
-Charles Oakley being treated badly by the knicks.
-Knicks front office is horrible.
Oh I remember the 1999 Finals, being in Europe it was the first NBA Finals I followed live at 2AM (to, usually, 6AM... :/). Sure, my favorite team the Spurs were the better team, but I'll always have tremendous respect for this NY Knicks team because they made lemonade out of lemons. At the time they said "the first 8 seed to make the Finals", and still to this day the only one. What an accomplishment in and of itself.
During the games, they left everything on the floor and without their star Patrick Ewing, they displayed an absolutely flawless attitude.
After that year, I always had a lot of respect for these players, Larry Johnson, Latrell Sprewell, Allan Houston & Marcus Camby.
Miami heat did it
That was a good video. Thanks for the memories. Good job 👍
I loved this team..native new Yorker here..Sprewell was a beast
I remember watching pretty much every playoff game during this Knicks run back in 1999 when I was in the 3rd grade. Still gives me chills.
Same here lol
2023 Heat, crazy to think that this happened within 50 yrs, hopefully one day we’ll see an 8th seed win the chip
And the entire league wasn't in a lockout season like the 1999 season
Love your videos man hope to see more Knicks videos in the future
That Larry Johnson 4 point play gave me chills I didn't even know it was in the playoffs when I first saw it, amazing.
I remember this Knicks team was rooting for them hard back then.
BBB...really?
You're probably the best basketball channel on UA-cam - you've got a new subscriber 👊🏿
When Allan Houston hit that shot, I hit the roof. LOL I loved my Knickerbockers, this team and the ones prior with John Starks and the gang.
I love your videos! You're very underrated youtuber.
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i would bet for that because i think a team could be a projected 1st seed but their best player could have been hurt and missed like 65 game that year but they still barely make the playoffs. Their superstar player can come back in the playoffs and they make it to the finals
Likely will not happen again. There's a book called "The Science of Luck" that talks about different sports and basketball is not surprisingly, the sport with the least amount of luck involved which is why 1 and 2 seeds nearly always make the finals. This situation for New York was a perfect storm because of the shortened season and the injuries in the regular season that made them appear like a 8 seed, but if it was a full season they probably would have been a 4 or maybe even a 3 seed. They all got healthy just in time for the playoffs which was perfect, but if it was a full season, you have to think Ewing and some of the older players may not have stayed healthy.
It was a remarkably stacked roster, aside from the guys you mentioned, they also had Chris Childs and Charlie Ward (who were always solid, but never great) Dennis Scott (who was still a great shooter), Kurt Thomas (who was always underrated), Herb Williams (one of those savvy vets who had a fantastic career in Indiana) and David Wingate.
This team wasn't a real number 8 seed. This team should have been a 3rd seed at worse. They just happened to be bad in the regular season then got hot and figured it all out come playoff time.
@Rodzilla Ewing Theory was invented by Bill Simmons, because he was butthurt that Ewing singlehandedly eliminated his beloved Celtics in 1990. Check that series out before saying anything about Ewing Theory fml.
One of my best off-court memories from this season came in my high school sports journalism class. We were privileged enough to have invited Mike Breen to come and chat with us. There was a Q&A session and I gave Mike Breen a statement/question. This would've been around April or so, so the Knicks were languishing in the standings. Well I said to Mr. Breen, "What do you think of the Knicks' chances at winning the championship? I think they can go all the way (something like that)." It was the cool thing for the kids in NY to hate on the Knicks, so you can imagine the cool kids all laughing and mocking me at that moment. Mike Breen also gave a cliched response along the lines of, "Any team can beat any other team on any given day", but he didn't see the Knicks going anywhere.
By the time the LJ was hitting the most famous 4-point play in league history, school was already out. I had graduated. There were no faces around to rub it in. Just pure bliss. I like to imagine that somewhere out there, Mike Breen remembered that dorky kid from John Bowne High School who kinda predicted the Knicks would get this far.
Edit: All the love and respect in the world for Mike Breen. The man's a legend.
Including the 1998-1999 NBA Lockdown the season was short
MDJ, dawg, Keep up the good work!!!!!
They defeated an excellent #2 seed Indiana team to get to the NBA Finals.
And defeated The #1 Seed Team(Miami) in the First Round of the NBA Playoffs.
That Knicks heat game 5 was a classic though. Plus 76ers made playoffs 1st time with Iverson!
i love your videos, keep up with the good work. greetings from BrasiI!
The GM was Ernie Grunfeld (not Grunfield) and he was the other half of the famous Ernie and Bernie (all time Knick great Bernard King) Show from University of Tennessee.
The Miami Heat will make the finals this year as an eight seed
I love your videos and Andy hoops, two beast asians who make the best basketball vids, their very informational
loved this video plz make more video about knicks
😂😂😂 I was going to comment “wow you actually got your shirt from the triple BBB BumBumBum”.
heat 2023😤
This season was chills inducing excitement. To this day an 8th seed has never made the finals. Houston's last second roller ousted number 1 heat. The beat atlanta then beat the pacers not even going 7 & of course lj's 4 pt play the loudest I've ever heard the garden. The above shot if the crown all standing at once was amazing. When they won the east people in the crowd were weeping. It was so exciting. Ewing & lj were out for the finals.
Also in general the Knicks were the one team with bitter rivalries with 3 teams the bulls the pacers & the heat. No other east team had rivalry's where it was like a war. They were such a good solid team that just had that trouble getting over the hump. 2 finals in 5 years is pretty cool but heartbreaking esp for ewing. Many feel their was a curse bc of that draft if Ewing that most feel was fixed to bring ny with all its media money & buzz a championship
OKAY ON GOD YOU DESERVE WAY MORE HYPE FOR THESE VIDS.
thanks David👏
Great run💪🏾💪🏾🔥
If lebron gets the 8th seed and the raptors have the first seed it will happen again 😂
Florian Straub lol
Faxxx😂. But nobody beatin them warriors...
In your dreams ugly Boy lol your LeBron is old now means time to retire lol abnormal
@@chusiika8773 was 'ugly boy' a serious insult?
Florian Straub what year and season are you living in son ?
"Sproo-well".? lol , seriously? Am I that old ?......
Omg had to come back with another one ... Ernie "GrunFIELD ?".
I AM that old
I like that my tweet to you became a video idea, although I was surprised you didn't mention if you considered this team the less talented team to make the finals I was curious to see what the verdict was
Hell ya finally this video !!
I feel like the only way this happens is if there is an full season injury to a major player who returns for the playoffs. Team chemistry would still be a huge issue. So it would have to be an already established team in a tough conference.
More great playoff runs and yes I see it happening in the next 30 yrs
You make excellent videos. You really have all the details and put it together very well. the videos bring back a lot of memories for me, but some of my memories are not accurate, which is fine. I didn't know that the Knicks were the 8th seed. I thought Duncan was a rookie, etc.
They should make the first round best of 5 again. Obviously money.
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Not a Knicks fan (I don't hate them they're just not my team), but this will always be one of the top memorable moments since I started watching the NBA
I do believe there will be another 8th seed in the finals eventually. Maybe a franchise player gets hurt early in the season. At the trade deadline, the team gets some reinforcement, and their own star player returns from injury. It takes this new team a while to gel, but once they get going, they get going.
Admittedly, it's not very likely, but eventually it might happen.
For an 8th seed to get to the finals, the team would need a lot of veterans with past playoff experience, or recently won a title, meaning they know what it takes to win. It's not going to be young team, as they would be destroyed by a top seed.
You were right !
I was a Spurs fan at that time, but I rooted for that Knicks team. There was no one from that team, who overshadowed the others. Everyone took his chance to gave as much help to the team as he could. It was a very fine roster, Larry Johnson, Allen Houston, Latrell Sprewell and of course Ewing. I was a bit sad that they could not managed to win.
I love the 99 knicks on 2k19,just wish they had kurt thomas...
I think that it could happen again if a certain team struggles with injuries to their stars throughout the regular season, only to see them eventually come back just before the start of the playoffs. The 2015 OKC thunder's team comes to mind. Had they made it to the postseason as an 8th seed, they may have had a very long run that year
I would say making the NBA Finals for the 8th seed is definately possible since all you need is some injuries to star players but then them recovering at the end of the season or a young team significantly improving throughout the year
Like the Celtics yet they still manage to get the 2nd seed spot, thanks to Brad Stevens.
or a mid-season trade and a team just getting it all together just when the play offs come
one reason i disagree is the 99 lockout short season is why it occured..that luck isnt gonna happen again...that knicks team made the finals with 27 losses....all 8 seeds have that many losses before the playoffs...had the season gone 82 games they would of bee a top 5 seed ...guaranteed...the heat werent a real 1 seed..heck they were only 10 games better than the 8 seed
@@razkable well
@@razkable you probably won’t see this comment
You should these kind of team introduction about those forgotten teams more often, young fans don't actually know them, like the 00 blazers which 6 points short of blocking a Lakers dynasty, with Scottie Smitty Bonzi Sheed Mightymouse and a still-can-move Sabonis.
I was at band practice the Sunday that the Knicks made that unbelievable comeback vs the Heat.
Bottom 4 seeds to make the Finals
1995 Rockets (ended up winning)
1999 Knicks (ended up loosing
And now here we come
2020 Miami Heat
if a top seed star player gets injured in a playoff and when an injured star of an 8th seed gets back at playoff time. It can happen
It will happen, every generation something incredible always happen in sports.
Great year they came up short but what a ride....
I never knew all of this I just knew that as an 8th Seed they went to the Finals . Cool video.
MDJ, Which will happen first, a playoff sweep (16-0) or 8 seed in the finals?
In the NHL upsets are quite common and the series are the same length. Just less parity in the NHL
That shirt. Somehow somewhere Lavar is smiling.
heat r gunna do it again
Great vid
I think it will: there probably will be a team with their best players out for the regular season that come back for the playoffs
Why on Earth did you buy a Big Baller's shirt?
Bob Jones question for anyone under 22 - do kids wear BBB and what do they think of it?
Well parents wouldn't buy it for them considering how expensive they are
Why are you so concerned about what another person is wearing?
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Frank Dux kids don’t respect lavar ball and it’s too expensive
MDJ for president
So many trades are made at the deadline in February. Regular season record is not a reflection of how good a team really is, so I believe it will happen
Definetely. Lock out season, or a team like this year, Timberwolves, really tough team. Matching up with for example injured Warriors, Jazz in second round, and Houston in the WCF. I don’t see them winning the chip, but it would be possibility
This season cemented Allan Houston as my second favorite player of all time
This CAN happen under one scenario: A team has a superstar player. He gets injured midway into the season. The team stumbles to the finish line. Right before the playoffs begin, he returns. The team gets hot.
Big Baller Bust! LoL
Great vid though!
What made the cinderella knicks of 99 so great is that they were a newly assembled team with new pieces while there other oponents were playoff battle tested and had been with each other for a few years .and they made this historical playoff run without there all star center and best player patrick ewing .coach van gundy didnt have much of a strategy wirh this new squad that he new norhinf about .the offense was get the ball to houston or sprewell and play some timely defense .this was an unbelieveable magical run and although this team lost in the finals to the twin towers that were the san antonio spurs led by the admiral and big fundemental this still was the greatest playoff run in all of nba history hands down .as larry johnson eloquently stated i am on a team full of runaway slaves lol.power to the people
I think that it could happen again. But one circumstance would be that the star player would be injured part of the season like say a jimmy butler with the t wolves and the injury would bring the teams wins down to the 8 seed. Even though they would be an 8 seed, they would have a superstar player.
the trade deadline can make a low seed team win. 20193rd seed 76ers on the west side have a chance they got Butler and Harris during the season.