@@pannoni8449 I would do the Oddball music for funny looking games (except those with a different cue) and the other one for sliding games. Makes more sense to me. Oddball should not have been used for Make Your Move in my opinion.
Are they using the same set pieces from the 1985 pilot for "Concentration"? Match Game meets Double Dare meets the Check Game music from the Price is Right.
Great upload. Thanks. However, I found it odd that Lydia Cornell was from "Too Close for Comfort" when she was no longer on that show, Vicki Lawrence was from "Mama's Family" when that show hadn't returned to television yet (it would return with all-new episodes in syndication that September), Anson Williams was from "Happy Days" when that show left the airwaves just about two years earlier. They should have went for the grand slam and stated that Dick Martin was from "Rowan & Martin's Laugh-In." Only Marla Gibbs and Nedra Volz were on the shows that were then on the air ("227" had just started months earlier and "The Fall Guy" had a few months left on the airwaves).
Exactly what I am thinking. Search for Tomorrow lost half of Password's audience. NBC was looking for a word game at 12:30 to funnel some of Super Password's viewers to. Before Wordplay, I switched away from NBC after Password as I despise soaps.
Perhaps If the entire game was always played like the third round it could've been faster & better. Jamie Far has a great personality, too bad he was stuck with this klunker.
Not too long after this, he did another unsold pilot, Double Up, for Dick Clark Productions. The only game show he did that actually made it to air was three episodes of Wordplay, subbing for Tom Kennedy.
When I first saw the subject, I thought that "basketball" was too likely to be duplicated and I wouldn't want to write it. The problem is that there are two definitions you can go for, and when the words come up, you don't know which word goes for which definition. It took me awhile to figure out that "magic" was going for "Magic Johnson" the basketball player. At first, I was wondering what dribbling has to do with a magic trick.
The third round rendered the first two completely moot. A "golden snitch", or whatever the equivalent of that was in the 80s, is something you want to avoid in a game mechanic. You'd think Mark Goodson of all people would know that.
Could have easily been avoided by making the goal $500, having the third round be worth $300, and then quickly playing a 4th round (for $300) if nobody had reached $500 by that point.
Part of the point of a pilot is to make your game look fun and winnable - this show did not come across as winnable. Also, lots of common sound effects with Super Password, including a common announcer, so it was probably shot using their resources.
In 1986, NBC was looking for a word game to follow Super Password and replace Search for Tomorrow with a compatible game show as Password's lead out. They ultimately went with Wordplay.
My other proposed idea for bonus round....... If there were 10 celebrities instead of 8.... I’d start the jackpot at $20,000 and deduct $2,000 for every clues used, wouldn’t that have worked???
She also replaced Charlotte Rae on "Diff'rent Strokes" on a semi-regular basis and guest-starred on many TV shows (mostly sitcoms) throughout the mid and late-1970's and throughout the 1980's.
Another unsold one he did that was interesting was "TKO" with Peter Tomarken. It was okay, but it probably wouldn't have lasted long. There was also "Body Talk" with Vicki Lawrence, which was another charades-like game. It featured four celebrities, those being Bill Kirchenbauer, Richard Simmons, Marcia Wallace, and Elaine Joyce.
Id changed the front game to four subjects 100 to 400 with 500 needed to win the game and the contestant gets 500 for each clue revealed if they dont win the jackpot
I like it better than Super Password. I never liked the Password games, because there's so much dead air waiting for a guess after each clue of each word. This game goes faster without having multiple clues to guess every word that is part of the puzzle.
@@Quartzquiz333 I'm a little surprised Dick didn't say "Jordan" instead of "Magic". Magic is too vague. Those clues make me wonder if there's some weird fairy tale out that that I don't know about.
The theme song and the think music sound like the Price Is Right game "Cover Up."
Thank you for posting this! I wanted to see this full pilot again. Much appreciated!
I wish they could be on next year’s “Buzzr’s Lost and Found” block!! A set of rare never-before-seen game shows!!
Lydia Cornell, Vicki Lawrence, and Marla Gibbs.. Luv those 3 great actresses ❤❤❤
I hear “Final Jeopardy” during the slate, despite Alex Trebek hosting the main show at the time.
Vicki Lawrence *AND* Marla Gibbs sharing the same SET?? *EPIC!!*
@0;09, this isn't Final Jeopardy!
Looks like a revival of Goodson-Todman's short lived "Get the Message".
4:30 used on The Price Is Right since fall 1988 (Check Game)
TPIR also uses it for the Cover Up pricing game.
@@sabster74 And don’t forget Make Your Move.
@@jerrywright4886 it was also used on the match game bert coney pllots
The think cue thats still used today on the price is right
My 17th birthday!
"My name is Randy Economy, I own my own political consulting firm"…
I'm quite surprised neither Jamie nor anyone else quipped, "how fitting!"
The FINAL JEOPARDY! Music Plays Over the Opening Slate
Combination of Match Game and Password.
4:30 it's the Check Game/Make Your Move/Cover Up music from TPIR.
Yeah, they reused it on Price in the 90's. Sort of carnival music to me.
@@sha11235 just never knew they used it for anything prior to its use on TPIR.
It was also used as Super Match think music on the 1989 Match Game pilots.
@@sha11235 They're still using it today on those games, but occasionally, the cue from Line 'Em Up/Push Over is played instead.
@@pannoni8449 I would do the Oddball music for funny looking games (except those with a different cue) and the other one for sliding games. Makes more sense to me. Oddball should not have been used for Make Your Move in my opinion.
There's actually a board game that simulates the game play of this game show called Just One. Go check it out if you're interested.
I've played that game. You won't believe what two of us matched clues for "Sherlock".
Actually just ordered it after hearing the comment.
I don’t know if a game like this could work today. Maybe it could
if it’s anything, we got a famous price is right cue out of it.
Good cast of people for a game show, but I can see why it didn't get picked up.
Are they using the same set pieces from the 1985 pilot for "Concentration"? Match Game meets Double Dare meets the Check Game music from the Price is Right.
That music was used on Price is Right for other pricing games too.
Great upload. Thanks. However, I found it odd that Lydia Cornell was from "Too Close for Comfort" when she was no longer on that show, Vicki Lawrence was from "Mama's Family" when that show hadn't returned to television yet (it would return with all-new episodes in syndication that September), Anson Williams was from "Happy Days" when that show left the airwaves just about two years earlier. They should have went for the grand slam and stated that Dick Martin was from "Rowan & Martin's Laugh-In." Only Marla Gibbs and Nedra Volz were on the shows that were then on the air ("227" had just started months earlier and "The Fall Guy" had a few months left on the airwaves).
Wasn’t Tom Poston on Newhart at the time?
It was a pilot, they just had to say something. If there was a show that aired, they would probably have new people and new intros.
The most true statement ever: chief oddball Jamie Farr!
I suspect if this pilot had passed, this would've been the show to replace SEARCH FOR TOMORROW instead of WORDPLAY. 12:30 ET/11:30 PT.
Yup and interestingy enough, Jamie Farr substituted for Tom Kennedy when he was ill on Word Play.
Exactly what I am thinking. Search for Tomorrow lost half of Password's audience. NBC was looking for a word game at 12:30 to funnel some of Super Password's viewers to. Before Wordplay, I switched away from NBC after Password as I despise soaps.
you can't spell Lady Godiva without Lydia,
p.s. Lydia Cornell is from El Paso, Texas.
Since this was a pilot, there are really no rigging rules. I bet that that soundproof room was not soundproof at all.
Boy Goodson had a run of weird sets for his shows around this time.
Another G/T lost and found classic from Fremantle USA.
Too bad it didn't make it in to a season, for I love this game that I thought is interesting
That's The Check Game Cue Also Heard Of On The Price Is Right From 1988
I'm a little surprised that Anson Williams still had the Happy Days tag on.
Considering how long the show lasted, there were likely several episodes being syndicated to many stations across the country at the time.
Perhaps If the entire game was always played like the third round it could've been faster & better. Jamie Far has a great personality, too bad he was stuck with this klunker.
Not too long after this, he did another unsold pilot, Double Up, for Dick Clark Productions. The only game show he did that actually made it to air was three episodes of Wordplay, subbing for Tom Kennedy.
Is it like password?
I can't believe none of them wrote "basketball"; seems like he was almost set up to lose there.
When I first saw the subject, I thought that "basketball" was too likely to be duplicated and I wouldn't want to write it. The problem is that there are two definitions you can go for, and when the words come up, you don't know which word goes for which definition. It took me awhile to figure out that "magic" was going for "Magic Johnson" the basketball player. At first, I was wondering what dribbling has to do with a magic trick.
BUZZR lost and found
Was this A Mid Season Replacement For Wheel For Fortune?
No
That was goofy.Buzzer got in the way,he didn't have enough time to answer in the bonus .
not sure why it wasnt picked up, maybe a different host
The third round rendered the first two completely moot. A "golden snitch", or whatever the equivalent of that was in the 80s, is something you want to avoid in a game mechanic. You'd think Mark Goodson of all people would know that.
The only good thing of the first two rounds is making a couple of bucks, since the loser keeps their cash. Otherwise, a complete waste of time.
Could have easily been avoided by making the goal $500, having the third round be worth $300, and then quickly playing a 4th round (for $300) if nobody had reached $500 by that point.
By this time Mark Goodson was getting on in years, so it would be understandable to have a few duds.
What is a Golden Snitch ?
Looks like an attempt to rework GET THE MESSAGE.
That’s exactly what it is. It’s actually more slow paced. The original was not good, but this is worse.
Part of the point of a pilot is to make your game look fun and winnable - this show did not come across as winnable. Also, lots of common sound effects with Super Password, including a common announcer, so it was probably shot using their resources.
In 1986, NBC was looking for a word game to follow Super Password and replace Search for Tomorrow with a compatible game show as Password's lead out. They ultimately went with Wordplay.
A lot of game shows, particularly those in the Goodson/Toddman catalog in the 70s and 80s had a lot of the same sound effects, though.
It wasn’t fair that the 2nd player gets the benefit of all clues.
9:52 No, belly button is not one word.
I've always seen it written as two words. Actually, if I type "bellybutton" here, I don't see it underlined in red, so perhaps it's OK.
What are the rules
As with match game, this show was not about the actual gameplay.
My other proposed idea for bonus round.......
If there were 10 celebrities instead of 8....
I’d start the jackpot at $20,000 and deduct $2,000 for every clues used, wouldn’t that have worked???
Or put a time limit (60 sec) and eliminate the auto-loss on duplication.
NEED THE RULES
gameshows.fandom.com/wiki/Oddball
How the hell is "belly button" one word?
If I type bellybutton here, I don't see a red mark, so it must be OK.
I hope Double Up is better
So we finally know what Nedra Volz was known for. And it's surreal to see her anywhere but on the MG/HS set.
She also replaced Charlotte Rae on "Diff'rent Strokes" on a semi-regular basis and guest-starred on many TV shows (mostly sitcoms) throughout the mid and late-1970's and throughout the 1980's.
I always remembered here from the very short-lived sitcom "Filthy Rich" from the early 80s.
So its just reverse match game
I need the rules
Need the rules
Guess not all of Mark Goodson's pilots sold. But he made a damn fortune.
Another unsold one he did that was interesting was "TKO" with Peter Tomarken. It was okay, but it probably wouldn't have lasted long.
There was also "Body Talk" with Vicki Lawrence, which was another charades-like game. It featured four celebrities, those being Bill Kirchenbauer, Richard Simmons, Marcia Wallace, and Elaine Joyce.
@@bluebear1985 They are on here. And I am FB friends with Bill. And RIP to Richard.
I suppose Mark Goodson comes up with a bunch of ideas, and some of them fly with the networks, and some don't.
He should've hosted in a dress.
Id changed the front game to four subjects 100 to 400 with 500 needed to win the game and the contestant gets 500 for each clue revealed if they dont win the jackpot
Mike Skumanick like Super Password’s scoring
@@JoeyLamontagne yea or another scoring format is each subject is 250 and first to 500
Jackpot should start at $5000 and add $5000 each time it's not won and $100 for every clue if failed to guess.
The pilot probably didn't sell because it was too close to Super Password, which was still running at the time.
Get the Message (which this is a revival of) sold while Password was on the air. This didn’t sell because it’s not a good game.
I like it better than Super Password. I never liked the Password games, because there's so much dead air waiting for a guess after each clue of each word. This game goes faster without having multiple clues to guess every word that is part of the puzzle.
Shame that basket ball is 2 words or they use it.
Basketball is definitely a one word clue, but I'm sure that the celebrities thought it would be too easy to duplicate.
@@Quartzquiz333 I'm a little surprised Dick didn't say "Jordan" instead of "Magic". Magic is too vague.
Those clues make me wonder if there's some weird fairy tale out that that I don't know about.
My clue was "Meadowlark", an unambiguous hint for basketball.
Randy economy had a political consultant firm?
I guess it meant he taught Donald Trump how to get laughs at his rallies!
I'm a little surprised that Anson Williams still had the Happy Days tag on.
what are the rules
NEED THE RULES
what are the rules