The Battle of Ankara, 1402 AD ⚔️ | Timur's Near Destruction of the Ottoman Empire
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- At the turn of the 15th century, the Ottoman Empire was at the zenith of its power. However, its success did not go unnoticed among its neighbours. To its east lay the Timurid Empire. Sultan Bayezid provoked Timur, leading the latter to invade the Anatolian Peninsula. The invasion culminated in the iconic 1402 Battle of Ankara. It nearly destroyed the Ottoman Empire entirely.
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It's actually insane that the Ottomans manage to survive after Timurs destruction
Not really, as their powerbase was in the balkans
They had survived because Bayezid's sons abandoned their father in the battlefield. Soon after each one of them seize the one part of the empire and had fought for the crown for over a decade (called Ottoman Interregnum
)
As they say: "He who fights and runs away may live to fight another day"
@Lil Trip Primary sources about this war are very limited so his true intentions were only a matter of assumption.
The first two Timurid emperors Timur and Shah Rukh Mirza ( both are Persian-Mongols ) made the Ottoman their vassal for 45 years !!!
Almost half a century 🤣😂 .
@@joerogue231 Timur was a Turko-Mongol not a Persian Mongol
That Serbian cavalry was badass
A series of works On Timur would be great given how out of the 3 great Eastern Horse Warriors (Attila, Genghis and Timur) he is one the one that gets least attention whilst being an amazing historical figure
Thank you for the suggestion, this is indeed an idea I have been playing around with.
@@HoH please do on the Sikh empire
@@HoH also on sultan jalal undi
@@ajithsidhu7183 its too short lived empire
Nader Shah would be a great choice as well.
Alp Arslan also.
A quarter of Ottoman's Turkic brothers desert them, while the Serbian vassals fought the best.... shame on those deserters.
Well, Bayezid was the son in law of Lazarovic and tbh Serbian cavalry outmatched their counterparts on the battlefield in any possible comparision. Turks were used to be mercenaries for a millenia and Timur's treasury was quite huge. Plus, both sides were Turkic to a simple soldiers eyes and they wanted to fight for their former overlords whom sided with Timur.
@@strutter0505 Timur was Mongol not Turkic .
@@joerogue231 He was a member of Barlas clan and they were Mongols, so you are right but they were Turkified by mixing with the local population of central asia. Timur's mother was a Turk, his name is Turkish (Timur means "iron" in modern Turkish) and he was speaking Turkish in his daily life.
@@strutter0505 The Barlas tribe almost never married outside of their Mongols tribe and when they did it was with other Mongols tribe .
Timur mother was either a Persian or a Mongol from a Mongol tribe close to the Barlas .
I don't understand this fantasy that Timur had Turkic blood in him .
Speaking in Chagathai Turkic was logical because the population there was predominantly Turkic .
Still Timur spoke Mongol and Persian just as regularly as the Chagathai Turkic .
Timur was a product of an Islamized and Iranisized society .
There's overwhelming proof that show that Timur was very Persian .
Timur wasn't a Turk at all .
@@strutter0505 Seljuk sultans spoke Persian , the Ottoman sultans spoke Persian , the Mughals spoke Persian , the Kwarezmian spoke Persian , etc....
I guess they are all Persian then 🤣😂 .
Fun fact: the war elephant regiment had a commander called Isen Buga. It is said that he hid his troops and beasts in a forest near the battlefield. Today, that region is called Esenboğa (which literally means Isen Buga in modern Turkish) and modern day Ankara's international airport is located right there. Because of this, the airports name is Esenboğa and it facinates me it took its name from a warlord, riding his war elephant to the battle.
Great video btw, greetings from Ankara.
@پیاده نظام خان man. What are you talking about?
arab talk about your nation you know nothing about turks
@@kingofmaiars idk this dude clearly full of hatred. Look at his other comments under this video. Btw idk if its arab could be persian as well.
@پیاده نظام خان interesting
Good information. Btw Esenbuga means nine bulls in Mongolian language. It means as strong as strength of nine bulls. It was common name in middle ages.
Serbs were the most loyal soldiers. But Kara Tatars paid very high price for their betrayel. Timur took them with him towards Samarkand, and on the way they rebelled, most of them were massacred by Timur's order. Also rumoured that Bayezid asked Timur to take them away.
So Timur treated well to Bayezid and didn't destroy his state, also because of his wish.
yeah in turkey we like them & respect them its only balkan massacrs toke place in 90's worsen ties & their indepence wars etc
@@cengizsogutlu War in 90's where set up by the west. Yugoslavia was great example of multi cultural country. I am glad to see that Stefan Lazarevic had great army at a time, and doing good against the mongols.
@@cengizsogutlu yes even Türkiye supported Serbs at the beginning of the war and then with fight against Bosnians ceased it's support. By the way Timur took Yıldırım and Mara daughters as bride for his grandchildren.
@@Milan_1389 Timurs army mostly Turkic ( Uzbek etc)
@@ErolOzdemir Bosnians would be better if they united with serbs to form Yugoslav republic. They paid heavy price for independence. But same we didn't do to Serbs in 1800s.. that's big difference.
You give a lot of relevant context and it leads me to learn far more than I usually would from these sorts of videos. Nice!
Your channel is doing great, really love your style. Not all of the channels like these show the host, it gives the channel a more personal feel. Keep it going!!
Great job Stefan and Serbs!
Well made! Your manner of story telling is perfect for not native English speaker as me. Appreciate it! You got a subscriber ✌ have you happened to hear of Didgori Battle in 1121?
Bayezid named his sons after the prophets: Suleyman(Solomon), Isa(Jesus), Musa(Moses) and Mehmet(Mohammed)
Interessting, didnt know mehmet was the equivalent of mohammed in turkish
@@GGitten It's rare that a Turk is named Mohammed and instead Mehmet is used as to prevent any ill words towards the name Mohammed, according to a common belief.
But byazid was named after yazid a hated character in Islamic history
@@abdulrehman-md1nx No , Yazid and Bayazed meanings are different.
Yazid : Addidtion
Bayazid : Saint
@@HaseebKh00n would you name your son yazeed or bayazeed
Loving your battle videos! Keep up the great work!
Love the video and the editing style brother! Could I ask what software do you use for the battle terrain?
Wow, didn't know this channel existed untill now. Great work.
Another great video, keep it up
Nice historical video, thank you
Glad you enjoyed it!
quality history as always
Nice historical video 👍👍
A nicely informative video.
Could you do a video on Despot Stefan Lazarevic, he was a amazing knight, basically like a fictional character, he was extremely loyal and he was known in whole of Europe at that time, he also wore a flaming dragon on his shield so that's pretty cool :D
Fantastic video please more
great video! Just hope the sound/mic would be of better quality :)
Thanks for the feedback. Could you be more specific so I can improve it?
Great video!
Thank you for doing this.
Great content keep it up
This battle was also very important for europe, it delayed the fall of constantinople for 50 years in which the best part of the byzantine elite and merchant elite could flee the city and relocate in Italy
most scholars agree that this diaspora was the spark that triggered the renaissance in Italy, spreading over the rest of europe. 1 of 4 diaspora that had great historical effect changing it's course
70 AD Fall of Jerusalem and disperse of the Jews, 1402-1453 The greek diaspora, mainly toward northern italy, Expulsion of the Iberian jews after the fall of Grenada, The flemish diaspora after the fall of Antwerp ( 1585) which propeled the rise of the dutch republic, Sweden and othe harbor cities across the baltic area
Serbs were more loyal to Ottomans than Anatolias lmoa
yes, we Turks say that when we tell our own history. The Serbs are fleeing after his four sons have fled. sons are forcibly abducted to be enthroned. But the Janissaries and Beyazid fight to the end. After betraying the Akkoyunlus, the 2nd Mehmet (Conqueror) organized an expedition, defeating all of them and capturing them. He killed 400 people a day as an example. He was walking around with a rose in one hand and a sword in the other. The conqueror was the best of the Ottoman Empire.
Byzantines (in Orson Krennic voice): “We were this close to greatness!”
@DeSPoTNemanjaS pusti budalu, komentarise svaki video na ovaj nacin.
I wonder how I found myself here but I'm glad .you've earn a sub
Greetings from Serbia, love your content!
hello friend
if you are six turkey army call you as a soldier.
Awesome channel. Please make the battle of yarmouk.
When the former nomads get yeeted by the current nomads
Not really. Both where settled empire with nomads living in it.
I'd be interested in a video on Ligdan Khan, the second-to-last (his son reigned an unremarkable few months) ruler of the Northern Yuan (rump state of the Yuan dynasty), the last of the four direct successor states of the Mongol Empire.
Same.
Crispy looking battle map. What program do you use to make them if I may ask?
janissaries were beasts fighting 8 hours non stop on that hill
Great video but would you consider adding subtitles to your videos? I am having difficulty understanding and the auto generated captions are getting many words incorrect.
Hey Amit, thanks for your feedback. All my videos have manual captions, they are not auto-generated and there are barely if any spelling mistakes (since it's the script I wrote for the video).
Turks vs Turco-Mongols .D
Interesting!
The Timurids vs Ming Dynasty would have been very interesting. I think the Ming would have given a more challenging fight than the Ottomans. The Ming Dynasty were possibly the strongest military power in the world at the time. They had a strong economy. Nearly countless well equiped and trained soldiers.
I read a very nice book in Arabic about Timur Khan and his last wish was to invade china but he passed away in the preparation stage of his campaign. Immediately afterword his empire fail because of his family civil war on the throne.
@پیاده نظام خان I would agree the Ming were still recovering. However, they were ruled by the Yongle Emperor who was a fearsome opponent. This is the same man who managed to expel the Mongols from China and repeatedly made them vassals. He would have been Timurs toughest opponent after Bayezid. I don't thinkTimur would ultimately conquer China.
@پیاده نظام خان Is your profile picture from Warhammer 40k Thousand Sons Legion?
@Ali Kılıç The Ming Dynasty had many setbacks but they bounced back. It was thanks to the Yongle Emperor who was a good military leader. Remember how the war between Timur and the Timurids started in the place? It was because the Yongle Emperor kicked out the Mongol regime from China and then vassalised the Mongol tribes. Conquering China requires decades of effort. It took the Mongols 40+ years to do so. Timur would sacked a few cities but in the end he would be forced to leave as armies after armies of Ming soldiers would deplete his manpower and resources. It would be a raid and not a conquest. The Timurids after Timur realised how pointless and difficult it would be for them to have fight the Chinese so they just made peace and kept good relations.
@Ali Kılıç A Jihad won't make a difference. The Chinese will still resist and have the manpower to do so. When the Mongols invaded China it wasn't just a raid it was Conquest and it took them 40+ years to do so. And they only succeeded because they had the support of the Han Chinese who wanted to remove the Khitan and Jurchens from power. Do you think the Han Chinese would welcome Muslims with open arms and support the invasion?
A small tip: Turkish pronunciation is very regular so Google Translate could help if you would like to pronounce names correctly.
Nevertheless, cool video. You just gained a subscriber.
@پیاده نظام خان ? It makes the producers look more professional.
Just a heads up - Isa is pronounced more like "yeesa". And this channel was a revelation, for sure.
I suggest increasing the music volume and decreasing the voice volume.
''The number of Timur's army was 300,000 and 32 armored elephants that amaze and astonish the eyes of the beholders, while Bayezid's army, 120,000, fought in Ankara on July 28 from sunrise to sunset..All the Turkmen princes who were deprived of their throne by Yildirim left him and joined Timur's army with their units of their emirates
This was one of the major reasons for the defeat of the Ottoman Empire in Ankara, in addition to the fact that the difference in numbers was great, and towards the afternoon prayer, Crown Prince şehzade Süleyman Çelebi with the Grand Vizier Çandarlızade Ali Pasha lost hope for victory, so they left the battlefield with a corps of 30,000 men.
The sultan was in the heart of the army, and he continued to fight until he was captured at night in Cataltepe. Timur's losses were 40,000 casualties (...) The Samarkand-Ankara road, which is about 4,000 km long, was very far from his base, and Sultan Bayezid Yıldırım made a big mistake by accepting a field battle instead of using the hit-and-run warfare ''
The Battle of Ankara was the largest field battle that took place on the face of the earth during the Middle Ages (476-1453), in which two of the greatest military rulers in history clashed, and in which two Muslim Turkish khagans competed for victory and were dividing the lands between China and the Adriatic with their sons
The Battle of Ankara in Turkish Islamic history is one of the biggest disasters that delayed the growth of the Ottoman Empire and its conquests for half a century. It also extended the life of Byzantium and the Middle Ages by 50 years and delayed the unity of Anatolia by 70 years.
Вообще-то у Тамерлана было 200 тысяч а у Османов было 180 тысяч войска. Тамерлан всегда ходил с 200 тысячный войсками, даже против Золотая Орда. Кстати для темарлана воевать против Золотая Орда было трудно чем Османской армией.
It's a shame the Timur campaigns hasn't been adapted into motion pictures, except for some short appereances like in the movie "Mircea" (1989) where he forces Sultan Bayezid's sons to spit on him 🧐
Timur was the Forefather of Babur .. Founder of the Mughal Empire in India..in fact Miran Shah ..son of Timur who participated in this Battle of Ankara was the great great grandfather of Babur..
Serbian army was an Builder army.
Most of captured Serbs were released.
Only the best builders were kept in captivity, around 80 of them.
Those builders upgraded Samarkand and other cities.
In those times, only few people knew how to build two or more store buildings. Without nails!!
Sultanesse Leonora was Stefan Lazarević's sister, married to an Oddoman, instead to an catholic king.
That says alot about the time. Now we know it was a right choice.
Leonora was released from captivity. Lazarević asked for her and his army. Temerlan agreed.
Sultan was an idiot and Lazarević 3x broke the encirclement around him.
Temerlan to his general: Those Derviš!!!!....They fight like beasts!!! But, they dont know it is INANE!!!!
Its called INAT or naJUST. That is why my ancestors came back to Osat, where they remained to be Dunđeri Neimari.
Builders and fighters. Warrior monks. Templars.
This is not how Moguls treated captives!!! Is this normal for you?
After RAT (wAR) for RT (eaRTh)........RATtnik(warrior) becomes again RATar (fARmer) on his own RT (land,earth).
Every serbian warrior was an priest, preaching the TRuTH) on his own RT (earth).
There are bones and ashes of our ancestors, there is the truth. Truth worth of Word. PravaSlava. Cheering the Truth.
Something Europe does not understand! Bolje GROB nego ROB!
Mogul means mighty and were called this way.
This is why Moguls (many entities under Kan,Ban,Van; Pan - Pandava) realeased the Serbs, noble in soul, not in titles and gold.
King Milutin already defeated Moguls before, so Temerlan knew about Serbs, some stone age people, by westerners standars, using special tacticts known only to highest warrior cast Kshatriya. Šatro language Bela=Labe Nada=Dana
Stefan was kinda leader of Red Dragon Order in that time. Every nobleman, in Europe, wanted his son trained by Lazar. Vlad 3 Cepeš, Jan Žižka, Luksembourgs, Alfonso, Ladislav etc. helped to defeat Teuton Order.
Red Dragon=St.George
From Antlantic, to Pacific.....even the kids know that those people won the war against the KiNA KiTaj China, few thousand years ago.
That is why an Serbian marques, Sava Vladislavić, decided the frontier between China and Russia, which stands 250 years latter. Also the contracts are still valide. That is why Russia and China respects Serbia. That is why, half of my family has st.George as patron.
That guy on our ICON, is not George, but our ancestor, personified by George, doing the same thing as George.
Every family in Serbia had someone in this battle, like on Kosovo field...etc.
OTTOman means Vojvoda means Oddin..leader leading OD-DO from-to like water Votan vodan voda vodi
.....no one in my family ever called this people Turks.
Otomani, Muhamedani and X other names...but not Turks!
They didnt have 10 000 000 souls, while moveing to Anadolija, few years before this event.
Anglo-Saxon trickshot, for saveing Oddoman empire.
Vojvoda VodaVoda OdaOda Odda Odin Vodin Vevodi Vodan Od Dan Odan edan Edin VeVodstvo -
Means LEADER.
KING which is Kneg, Knjiga, Knižka, Nega Nežno, Knježno,....someone takeing CARe(Sare, Gare, Šare) in material and in spiritual way. That is why eagle has 2 heads.
For us sound more reasonable to be rulled by ODDOMAN than some King or Emperor, without Sbor (elections).
Stephen/Stefan/Sćepan means Hrabe in Czech. Grof, Graf....and it was an title, not an name...
like Luxemburg, Leskar, Karles, Charles is..... Defender of the light, Warrior of light defending hill, KA-RAN
Markiz(marques), Marka, Markomani, Marko, Marketa, Marcus, .... - are Border defenders, people from border.
Alan, Gordan, Ante, Marko,
Dear english talking(translateing) hisTORAians. iztroja, iz 3, from 3 would be much better=))
Please learn how to use sound and letter R, before you explain history aka poVESTI.
Gramya/Grammar is for those non familiar with Sanskrt.
Or.... for those that had only 22 letters in alfavita=).
There is a whole dimension of poVESTI (history), unknown for west and those who dont understand how 1=3 and 3=1.
Yes, i wrote some mistakes, could be, i am just a man. But the point is clear for those who want to see it.
This is not about Serbs, but about what happened in India 3600 years ago!
What is not written, didnt happen =)
Damnatio Memoriae.
All the best and forgive me if Ja was too rude.
I am just a peasant from Balkan.
Vida Veda poVeda
Timur were Turkic, not Mongolian. Read biography zafarname.
Battle of Ankara was Timur's masterpiece. He already won before the battle even started. Take notes guys.
Its not his masterpiece, Timur won because Ottomans were betrayed by the Tatars in the army.
@@rogerthat186 And why would that be? Could it possibly because he noticed their wavering loyalty and secretly negotiated with the Tartars to join his side? Winning battles isn't all about tactics and Bayezid was outmanoeuvred by more than just that.
The ottoman center should had tried to break the enemy line on One Wing,at last
Just like that Timur saves Europe maybe permanently: 50 years were wasted just to recover the lost lands and power and go back on Balkan campaigns. Crucial time during which Europe went through a period of progress that set them ahead of the Muslim world technologically. It's ironic that Timur's conquests were in vain and his empire eroded quickly after his death while Ottomans fared even beyond Timur's successor state Mughal Empire which settled in India.
Ottoman had no real contender in Europe and they held European lands and Arabian Lands while timur fought harder much stronger opponents and claimed many more lands including europe
The timurids were still around a century after Timur's death controlling the core territory of the empire, its not really accurate to say his empire fell apart especially fast.
What's the name of the song at 7:10 ?
I haven't come across a single video where a European youtuber didn't make propaganda. He called one of them a Mongolian, even though there were Turks on both sides, and he didn't even say that the other was Turkic.stop making videos immediately.
Please do a video about the black history of Prussia
Imagine if the original plan of the sultan was the let half of his army fake fleeing the Battlefield,only to charge thr enemy on surpise (like the two sons of beyezd and the serbs)
I have always thought Common should play Timur in a film.
Timur was the GREAT roach killer!
Byzantium: yes..... yes....
Timur's army must have been really dreadful on the battlefield.
Naphta throwing elephant units. Very scary.
I wonder why bayezid decided to bring such untrustworthy troops to face such a strong enemy
If the Ottomans had not been busy with a civil war against the Timurid dynasty, the whole of Europe would have been under the Ottoman flag.
It is quite sad that the Ottomans behaved very selfishly in the 14th century. Peace and permission were granted to conquer Eastern Europe, but the Ottomans canceled their natural spread to Europe and returned to fight against the Timurid dynasty, who were also Muslim brothers and desired sole rule. This led to the most devastating war in Muslim history. Thousands of elephants from India were used by the Timurids to crush the Ottomans, resulting in the deaths of 40,000 Ottoman soldiers. The Ottomans were declared defeated after their leader was killed by the Timurids.
Timur is one of the Greatest Generals in History, his Cunning and Tactics are Unmatched, the Opponents lost before the Battle even started, Next to him the well-known Generals are just Boy Scouts.
Do you think Timur would not have made his way to China without a Plan?
He would have forged a Coalition against the Ming Dynasty with the representatives of the Yuan Dynasty, the Tibetans and others, and China would definitely have fallen.
Have youthought to explore the Shia/Sunni pulls on the history of Persia/Iraq? Or Iran, for that matter. I don't a viable understanding of "modern times" can be composed unlessthe historical context is considered . . .
Thanks.
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There is a folktale of timur and bayezid here in turkey.Timur and bayezid were sending each other letters and hated eachother.So when one time timur send a letter and a box of shit to beyazid beyazid responded with a box of turkish delights and sir everyone treats what they eat
I don't like Timur or the Timurids but I'd have cheered them on if they'd annihilated the Ottomans. One of the most evil empires in all of history.
are you greek
@@kadirdoganturk7342 🤣
I realized I can't watch vids from unknown channels now as the dislike count is gone. I have no clue whether it will be worth my time in the end.
the battle was quite a disaster for ottomans but i have to admit that the Turks fight hard and deserved every respect. RIP to all the fallen soldiers
There is no army as good as the Turks in field battles, and the Mongols
Hm hmm “Ankara Messi”
Por favor podrían ponerlo en castellano
This is the most humiliating year for the ottomans I'd say,or 1683,or 1529,or 1456,or 1571
Or 1475
I'd say none of them. 1878 is the worst year for the Ottomans, the Russians almost conquered Constantinople. They stopped just 3 hours away from the royal palace.
In my opinion the most humiliating one was 1833. They had beaten by their own governor, Mehmet Ali Pasha of Egypt and seek to help of their biggest enemy; Russian Empire.
I'd say Skanderbeg's period of resistance was the most humiliating / Experienced Timur with his massive Cavalry armies was quite a bit too much to chew for the Ottomans / But loosing almost 4 Ottoman army groups To someone with as little resources as Skanderbeg, *that's jaw dropping*
@@abisalpha not really,the same happend with Mihai but it didn't really stop the ottomans and ultimately did t strike a deadly blow
How can you say the Ottomans were at the zenith of their power in 1402? Not even close.
Yes , 1453-1630
@@kadirdoganturk7342 With all due respect, even 1453 is too early to mark the zenith. The word zenith really refers to the moment of peak power, not simply a rising trajectory. If you throw a ball straight up into the air, the zenith is that brief moment where the ball is at its maximum height before it begins falling back down.
i wish that timur didn't fight the ottomans because he also admired their efforts in Europe
10:45 this painting is comedy. actually bayezid was in his early 40s.
There's always a bigger fish
ANKARA MESSI ANKARA MESSI ANKARA MESSI ANKARA MESSI ANKARA MESSI ANKARA MESSI ANKARA MESSI ANKARA MESSI
"The country of the Turks is not Turkey, nor yet Turkistan, Their country is a vast and eternal land: Turan!"
- Ziya Gökalp
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Sultan Yıldırım Bayazid is the first Ottoman sultan to drink wine/alcohool, and this is because of his beautiful Serbian wife, who remained a Christian and did not convert to Islam.
He married her after the victory of Nicpolis, and since that time he has been in decline, as she was an evil bad omen for him
Mustapha Al Junabi [died 999 AH 1590 AD an Arab Historian said
''The sultan was informed that Lu’lu’ ibn Laz, [Lazar] the king of the infidels of the Serbs, had a daughter of a great beauty, so he sent for her father to propose to her .. he accepted that and prepared her for him..the Sultan loved her and favored her over the rest of his wives ..she remained Kafira [infidel] and did not convert to islam she made him love fun and drinking wine ..He was the first to drink wine from the house of Osman and since that time, the state of the Sultan began to deteriorate until what happened to him in Ankara
Sultan Bayazid's son-in-law ,the husband of his daughter Fatima, Sheikh al-Arif Amir Muhammad al-Bukhari (d. 833 AH 1429 AD) used to advice the Sultan to stop drinking wine and warn him of the punishment of Allah..And he ued to say to him, Beware lest Allah will punish you with a fierce enemy
He did not succeed in what Allah Almighty wants''
Timur was not the heir of the Mongols, but the heir of the Turks of Central Asia, that is, the Turkestan, he called himself the ruler of all Turks.Now I will throw you what is written in the Zafarname, in which Timur wrote her own biography.STOP PROPAGANDA
Timur: " We are Melik of Turan, Amir of Turkestan. We are sons of Turk. I am the Bashbug(leader) of the oldest and greatest nation!
Sharaf ad-Din Ali Yazdi 15th century ZAFARNAME (biografy of Timur)
The Serbians were brave enough and show bravery but eventually we know what happened with ottoman sultan European powers of that time were divided some see this as good but some see this as even greater threat then ottomans.Specially byzentines were fearful that Timur might invade Constantinople Timur show no mercy towards christians he massacred the christians and destroy the chruch of the east he also famously raided and ended the glorious christian kingdom of Georgia masscres of symera city whatever was most famous of his terror when he destroy the city of knight hospitallers that is why many European see him as a threat . Suleiman the son of byezeid was helped by Venice to escape from Anatolia to it's European holdings where he declare himself as sultan and sign treaty with byzentine empire and many other christian states of Europe that it will protect Constantinople in case of timured invasion
Timurid Empire werent Mongols. Him and his troops were speakers of Chagatai Turkic. Though Timur is said to be descendant of Mongolian Barlas tribe, his family was completely Turkified when he was born. Today, Uzbeks claim Timurs heritage.
Every history geek who deep-dive into history with an impartial perspective will realize that the ottoman military was vastly overrated. In almost all early crucial Balkan conflicts, ottomans had more men, supplies, and gunpowder than their rivals. When the odds were equal or they faced up more equal grade enemy, the ottomans were utterly broken and decisively defeated.
Gjergj Kastrioti, one of the most prominent ottoman ass-kickers in history, had a 24-1 win/loss ratio against the ottomans. Besides, Kastrioti's army was vastly outnumbered (most of the time 10 to 1), largely consisting of militia and volunteers. Ironically, Gjergj Kastrioti was enslaved and trained by ottomans. Yet he was a far better soldier&leader than any other ottoman sultan&pasha in history. After all, he was a proud Christian. The ottomans may have enslaved his body, but they had never enslaved his soul.
Not only the ottoman Balkan invasion, this situation also applies to subsequent battles that took place in the following centuries.
In the Battle of Ankara (1402),Mongolian descendant Tamerlane inflicted significant casualties on the ottoman while imprisoning the ottoman sultan. At the beginning of the battle, both belligerents exchanged letters, and Tamerlane humiliated the ottoman sultan more than once.
Let's take a look at the siege of Constantinople, for example. Ottomans deployed more than 100,000 men plus giant cannons forged by Hungarian engineer Orban that have been unique and never seen that age. On the other side, the city defenders had barely 10,000 and were out of livestock and munitions. Despite that, the siege took 50 days and the ottomans lost half of their armies.
Just do some research. Since when did mehmed, "the so-called conqueror" who annexed Constantinople, win which battle while the odds were against him? He always got the numbers, cannons, and manpower. :)
The ottomans first confrontations with the colonial powers also ended up with military disasters.
Battle of Gulf Oman 1554 decisive Portuguese victory, ottomans lost all their ships, ottoman admiral fleed like a chicken and Battle of Cape Corvo 1613 (It was a crushing Spanish victory, a vast amount of ottomans taken prisoner by the Spanish)
Ottoman-Portuguese conflicts (1538-1560) also resulted in Portuguese victories.
Prince Eugene of Savoy from Habsburg dynasty was another notable ottoman crusher in history. His achievements against ottomans were pretty impressive. Battle of Zenta 1697 and Battle of Petrovaradin are simple examples of how he brought down ottomans.(During these battles, Eugene had 20,000 men, and ottomans had more than 100,000 men. After these battles, no other ottoman sultan dared to lead military campaigns. Literally, the ottomans came to the negotiation table while on their knees (Treaty of Karlowitz 1699) and bowed to the Habsburg terms.
The ottomans so-called predecessors, the seljuk turks, had no difference in that subject. They were also defeated and humiliated in countless wars like ottomans while holding tactical&numerical superiority. The Battle of Lake of Antioch 1098, the Battle of Sarmin 115, the Battle of Didgori 1121, the Battle of Iconium 1190, the Battle of Kosedag 1243 etc. Moreover, this Turkic faction was just a bad copy of the Mongols in terms of warfare. The only thing they did was implement cowardly hit-and-run horse archery tactics, nothing more. Since I referred to seljuk turks, I'd like to refer to some misinformation about it that is spreading around the internet. :)
The factual crusades conducted by Catholic factions were regarding the Holy Lands, Jerusalem, and Levant states and ignited by the Pope
.This means the other prevention attempts to repel muslim invaders from Balkan territory should not be defined as a crusade like Nicopolis and Varna. (the ignorant turkish brats are speaking about these all the time.) Here's a quote from a historian to bring clarity to that topic.
" I've seen constant misconceptions on the internet that the goal of the Crusades was “to prevent Muslim expansion into Western Europe” or something. This is not so. The First Crusade's stated aim was to aid Eastern Christians, primarily the Greek Orthodox Byzantine Empire. After the First Crusade, the subsequent Crusades aimed to preserve Roman Catholic rule in the Holy Land, especially Jerusalem. This was the stated goal of the Crusades and since the last vestige of Roman Catholic rule in the Holy Land fell in 1291, which is why people say the Crusades failed. This is also wrong, The first, third, and sixth crusades succeeded."
The Russians were another faction that constantly beat up this empire throughout the 19th century. The Treaty of Kuciuk Kainargi (1774)was at the outset of Russian dominance over that sick empire that resulted after the Russo-Turkish War (1768-1774). Since that date, Russians always have prevailed during the conflicts with ottomans. (except the Crimean War 1863, in that war Britain&French teamed up with ottoman and saved them from another disastrous defeat)
I'd add that info too, The battle of Serbs ain't happened. It's a myth the ignorant turk fools tend to believe in. You cannot find any single history book that covered this battle. As for the battle of Maritsa, there was no way the Serbs had gathered such a large army at that time. ( just a lie spread by pan turk clowns) Even at the Battle of Kosovo, Lazar Hrebeljanović (the national hero of Serbs barely rallied around 10,000/12,000 men under his command). The numbers of Balkan faction armies are grossly exaggerated by foolish turk brats, without any single historical proof.
As a history geek, I am an expert on seljuk&ottoman history even though I despise both factions. I gave the exact date of the Battles and the names of prominent military figures who crushed ottomans with supplement citations. :) I'm pointing out historical facts here.
Only ignorant ottoman fanboy turk fools are bragging about that garbage empire. They never read any decent history books in their lives all of their knowledge is based on the internet and ahistorical TV shows in turkey, merely coming up with copy/paste replies from the internet. (mostly Wikipedia)
This garbage-sick man empire only brought poverty and misery to humanity. Zero contribution to science, art, and literature had left behind a disgraceful legacy. Their so-called bloated military might is just a myth that ignorant muslim clowns ( ottoman fanboy turks mostly) believe it. :)
With this lucid argument, I've debunked those myths one by one based on detalied historiography.
to bad timur dident totaly distroyed the ottomans- just think how much suffering could have been saved.
Timur is possibly the ‘Greatest’ military commander of all time imo. He didn’t just beat other nations. He beat them as if they were untrained peasants. Bayezid would’ve been known as one of the greatest Ottomon commanders had Timur not existed
Timur mostly destroyed empires that were already in turmoil and Bayezids defeat was mainly coz of the lack of water and the treachery of close to half his army
He was mentally absolutely sick individualman, although the perfect soldier and a commander. He probably is The Most unmercyfull person that had ever walked on earth.
@@Demiurg0007 Timur perfect commander .
@@joerogue231 Yes he was without any doubt, but that does not exclude the fact, that he was one of the most inhumane and sadistic individuals that had ever lived up to now.
@@Demiurg0007 The place and time of his birth was brutal and inhumane .
Remember Timur the next time you call something lame.
The greatest tragedy in literary history is the undeserved status of the Tudor propagandist Shakespeare, while his far more talented contemporary, Christopher Marlowe, who wrote one of the greatest stage plays of all time about Timur, languishes in obscurity. There really is no accounting for taste.
You don't need to bring one great playwright down to bring another one up y'know
Kebab remover? More like kebab savor
:(((
Sad day for the muslim world.
Ottoman empire existed for more than 500 years after that battle but Timurid Empire collapsed just after the death of Emir Timur.
Roman Empire existed for 2000 years (eastern Roman empire 1000 years) Ottoman Empire was falling apart after the lost siege of the Habsburger capital
@@nobodycares6881 So? I will make a guess and say that you are greek
Osmanlı isterse 100 yıl sürsün çöp devletti
why was I cheering for turks this whole video?
nice video from turkey but timur is turkic not mongol
This essentially brought upon the Ottoman interregnum, a civil war that almost destroyed the Ottoman Empire. Later it was revived and became more stronger than it had ever been and even outlasted the Timurid Empire.
History of the Ummah
The Timurid became the Mughals .
The Ottoman lasted more but the Timurid and the Mughals at their peak were vastly more powerful than the Ottoman .
@Ex M What period are we taking about here ?
@Ex M Of course because Babur was a refugee so the Ottoman were way more powerful .
Also are we talking about military power or economic power ?
@Ex M During Akbar , Jahangir , Shah Jahan and Aurangzeb the Mughals were just as powerful military as the Ottoman .
@@joerogue231
We made a video on this topic if you are interested:
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If you speak English please get the pronunciations right, in the Agean Sea the g is sounded like a j
there is a saying,
If you see Turks fighting each other you can leave your castle to take a beer break
@پیاده نظام خان Tbf Most of Timur's army was probably Turkic, even if he himself was not
@پیاده نظام خان true
@@Threezi04
He himself too was speaker of a Turkic language, regardless of his origins.
@@arda213 But that doesn't really mean much, I can speak German for example but I am certainly not a German in any sense of the word.
@@Threezi04
It was his mother tongue, is German your mother tongue?
Timur the Persian-Mongol vs Bayezith the Anatolian Turk-Greek .
Timur was the best commander of that century .
Only the Yongle emperor of the Ming dynasty of China could have beaten Timur .
Turco Mongol but Timur loves Persian culture
@@amirtemur6872 Turco Mongol what ? He not have any Turkic blood .
@Modu Laoshang The one who need to be educated is you .
Timur said that his mother was Persian , it's his word .
So that would make Timur a Persian-Mongol according to Timur HIMSELF .
Timur spoke Persian and the Timurid arts , architecture and culture are all Persian .
Timur was a product of an Islamisized and Iranisized urban society .
@Modu Laoshang Timur language is Persian it isn't even up for debate , he spoke Persian .
Timur and Timurid cultures , customs , architectures and arts were all Persian .
@Modu Laoshang So destroying Persian cities , Persians on a daily basis mean that you not have Persian blood in you ?!?!
What kind of logic is that ? 🤣😂
Don't forget that the one who suffered the most under Timur was the Turk , Timur was the greatest massacre of Turk .
Timur the Persian-Mongol was the biggest nightmare for Turks , from Anatolia / Eastern Europe / Central Asia .
Timur killed around 15 millions Turk .
Great Mongol warrior
not mongol he is uzbek turk he draw away the mongols from central asia
@@batkanozturk4655 lol we’re you there? What’s his clan name?
@@MrTTuguldur
He spoke Karluk dialect of Turkic. His family was completely Turkified before he was born.
Turk are jealous of Timur so they say that Timur was Turk 😂🤣 .
Timur father line was Mongol and Timur mother was Persian ( according to Timur himself ) .
Timur only spoke Chagathai Turkic but he also spoke Persian and Mongol .
Timur blood was 50% Persian by his mother and 50% Mongol by his father .
Nothing Turkic about him .
Turk couldn't do anything against Timur both in Central Asian , Russia and Anatolia so Turk make lie that Timur is Turk .
When you can't beat him you claim he is same as you 🤣😂 .
British call Timur the "Turkic slayer" .
i think you have a problem with turks. read a book, go to the movies, make love....get rid of this problem
@Ali Kılıç Genghis Khan killed 15 millions Turk .
Timur killed 10 millions Turk .
@Ali Kılıç What lie ?
@Ali Kılıç Seljuk is vassal of Persians .
Google Nizam Al-Mulk the Persian who was the ruler of the Seljuk empire for 20 years .
Timur humiliate Bayezid serbian wife olivera Lazarević
Bayezids wife serbian princess Olivera sister of saint Stefan Lazarevic was allegedly waitress to Timur infront of captured imprizoned enslaved Bayezid coz Timur wanted to humiliate Bayezid! Saint Stefan Lazarevic attacked Timur after battle to save his sister Olivera and amazed Timur gave Olivera to her holy brother!
Anatolian Turks got destroyed by the Persian-Mongol emperor Timur .
After that the Ottoman was vassal and paid tribute to Timur and his son Shah Rukh Mirza ( also a Persian-Mongol ) .
Sultan Murad ii (Bayezids granson) refused to pay tribute to the timurids and also had a minor skirmish with shah rukh in which he was victorious
@@ghostedits3586 Doesn't matter .
What matter is that they pay tribute for almost half a century ( 45 years ) !!
@@joerogue231 The Ottomans despite being a smaller empire had a stronger foundation while the timurids eventually lost all their territories after Timurs death
@@ghostedits3586 After Timur death the Timurid still enjoyed decades of dominance .
The Ottoman paid tribute to the Timurid for 45 YEARS !!!!
Also the Timurid became the Mughals .
@@kuvayinizamiye819 Timur mother was a Persian .
Turks always lose to Mongols 😂🤣.
Battle of Ain Jalut is a joke because most of the Mongol went back to Mongolia .
Qutuz and Baibars barely won against the smallest and least able Mongols army ever 🤣😂 .
The Sultanate of Egypt was lucky that the Ilkhanate went to war with Golden Horde , Chagathai Khanate and Sultanate of Egypt .
The Ilkhanate was surrounded by 3 hostile powers and yet the Ilkhanate almost destroyed the Sultanate of Egypt numerous time .
The Turco-Persian Kwarzmian empire badly got defeated by Genghis Khan .
The Turkic population of Central Asia , East Europe , Persia , Anatolia and Egypt was massacred by the Mongols .
Battle of ain jalut wasn't the only battle the Mamluks had with the Mongols, they defeated them several times after that
@@ghostedits3586 Yes bit th Mongol under the Ilkhanate beat them numerous time despite the Ilkhanate fighting against the Delhi Sultanate , Golden Horde and Chagathai Khanate .
@@joerogue231 lol who said so? Baibars continously led several millatary expeditions against the Mongols and defeated them
@@ghostedits3586 Defeated which Mongols army ?
@@ghostedits3586 Baibars repulsed some of the smallest Mongols army ever 🤣😂 what make you think he is great ?
Turks are no match for the Persian-Mongol emperor Timur and his successor Shah Rukh Mirza and the Mughals .
@Ali Kılıç Go to Golden Horde , Chagathai Khanate and Ottoman Empire .
Look what Timur did to the Turk 🤣 .
My respect goes to Tamerlane.