You're A Better Artist Than You Think
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- Опубліковано 30 бер 2023
- Everyone feels it. @karlkopinski6431 is out there making masterpieces with all ten fingers at the same time! How can a new artist compete with that??
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I needed this
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Damn fr we needed this
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This one helped me a lot too
I feel u
Me too man.
With time, you begin to let your ego go, and instead of comparing yourself in a negative way, you look at other artist's work and think: 'so it's possible to get at this level'. It becomes a parameter :D
Very true
Yes I need your help thanks for your maitre
I can think that way until I learn the artist’s age and it all falls apart. Otherwise, I just am so overwhelmed by how they rendered their drawing and have no idea how to achieve the same effect! Anatomy, form, pose, etc or the just the lines are easy to learn because I can see what I need to do.
ive been reading blue lock and that is isagi isnt it
I look at other artists artwork, i compare myself to them, sometimes in a negative way but also to help me see what i can do and give myself the click i need to knowing what to do
'Comparison is the thief of joy'
That's a neat quote, where's it from?
~ Probably Bob Ross.
-Churchill Winston maybe
Whoa neat quote!
complacency is the thief of skill
i felt a little discouraged when I saw Steve Hustons work, but when I got to know that he spent 40yrs mastering that craft whereas I had spent just a few months. It puts things into perspective.
But then I remember that I'm already 35, so who knows if there even are another 40yrs on the table...
@@lonestarr1490 age doesn’t matter man, nobody knows if they have another 40 years what matters is using the time you have for what makes you smile!
Man I compare myself to kentaro miura and I’ve spent like 5 years trying to draw better so I can match him and haven’t made any progress at all
@@zzodysseuszz Me too bro, Miura is my model
@@zzodysseuszz haha, no worries SpongeBob me boy. 5 years is considered “meh level.” And maybe 3 more years is “Meh but with an “Ah!” moment. It takes more years to develop and you will get there even if it takes you into your 50’s
Instagram does not show you the many years the artist spent working to get that good. You are looking at the top of an iceberg of training and experience!
what a great analogy
that's exactly what i was thinking a few days ago while practicing on my sketchbook
but what if someone who has actively been drawing for less time is better than me
@@melonachii why does that matter? Perhaps they have aptitudes that allow them to pick the skills up faster. Or they have a better training method. If you feel like your progress is slower than you want then you need to examine your training methods and find something that works better. There are countless approaches to learning and some of them will click better than others. Comparing your progress to others is a surefire way to get discouraged. Your progress is a personal thing and there will be peaks, troughs, and plateaus. Focus on you and what you enjoy.
thanks, im more motivated to practice now@@richbailey819
I’m glad my phone not only spies on me, but also read my mind. This is just what I needed to hear.
Same lol
@@goat1408 I watched another video from another UA-cam art/Architech channel, they said the one thing people often forget is how much thought and time an artist puts into the subject before the camera rolls.
100% . I followed a ton of artists to be inspired but I find I actually get more overwhelmed and discouraged by being saturated with artists-my age, younger, and older-that seemed to have already accomplished so much more. Better to digest inspiration more slowly to match one’s growth
I totally agree i sometimes have an idea and then I might google it and find aomone else already had that idea and even better and did it better. And then that makes my thing seem lame. If I didnt know about it id be like wow look what I made. Same with cooking sometimes I " invent" a recipe and then find out its already a thing. Or like I Baker cakes and then I see next level decorations and im like oh... mines just a cake. Lol! I also feel like the more you put in the less comes out. When you sit in a blank room with no tv or input then stuff starts to come out which is great.
It is overwhelming but don't compare yourself. I guarantee you you both are great artists. Just keep perfecting your talent ❤
@@sitdogsit78248 thank you thats so nice. I just swuashed blackberries on my chopping board to see what would happen and made a nice pattern! Lol i bet that is original if nothing else! I wont google it!
the process is the fun part honestly. If you stop feeling like you NEED to be good. When you've achieved "good" that feeling lasts 10 seconds i swear
Very true! I know that in my experience drawing, just being in the moment with the process (as well as being able to trust it) can be one of the hardest things to remember. ^^;
True
True lol
Facts bro
True. I was kind of disapointed when he said if you were satisfied with your level you would have no motivation to improve. But you do improve by consistency and joyfull exploration of new techniques and avenues. Dissatisfaction need not to be a drive. And that is how you should look at other artists, like examples of ways to do it. Specially nowadays where all of the greatest artists you admire are sharing tips and tricks, or at least showing you their process, if not for giving away totaly free tutorials.
I'm a slow learner and I get anxious when watching speed paint.
Already, I'm moving the goal post, it's like shooting a moving target.
watching those speed-paints really messes with your head and perception of how long it takes to draw sth. been there not fun.
DON'T watch speedpaints.
If you like an artist, find if they have a livestreamed vod of their process and often. it's up in multitudes of hours.
Even then it's often not the entire process.
Watching just speedpaints cost me months of progress. The worst part is how it makes drawing look like "just do the thing" while often artist have different ways to come up with an idea for a piece.
The timelapse only shows the "How" part and not the "What". You just gotta keep track of both if you're hoping to get any wanted results.
@@winterillust sorry. I meant to reply to your comment
@@coins_png how did I not think of that? I have to do this slowly from now on until I get used to it. Thank you for that💯
It's not that drawing is hard it's just that it takes time to make a masterpiece
That Bob Ross plushie in the back sparks so much joy
I'm so happy anytime anyone notices it in there haha
I don’t get discouraged. I get motivated. It depends on which side if the coin you look at. The negative side or positive side.
I get also get motivated but as soon as the pencil touch the paper all that motivation and expectations is shattered to pieces 😅
@@mrmawster9786 Keep going, essentially you’re building a bridge in your mind so the creativity can flow. The more you draw, the more you see to be drawn☀️
@@mrmawster9786 this guy chose to cite facts rather than the comment
Looking for this comment. I hate that people think it's automatically a bad think to compare. If I never had anyone to look up to and chase, I would be so bad at art. It's exactly because of all these amazing insta artists that I get the motivation to push on and be like them! Some ppl need an example
Same. Im really inspired to understand how they created their work. To solve problems and see if I can’t incorporate that into my work!
I once had a panic attack the day before the start of an art education program because I thought I had to be Leonardo Davinchi. Like, the website literally only said that you should have an intrest for art and all of the pictures of students works weren't astonishingly good. My brain isn't capable of looking at the bigger picture sometimes. At least I enjoy art and won't quit it because I'm "really bad" at it and totally not because I haven't invested as much time and effort into it 😃
Our own brains can be our worst critics sometimes! They'll set our expectations for ourselves way too high.
We have just have to try to do good work that we actually go and show to the world sometimes. That way, we can get some positive feedback to help push back against our own brains a little.
"If you are satisfied with your skill level, you have no motivation to improve" Very true words.
Dont see comparison as somthing you should have now, see it as somthing you can reach one day.
Keep it steady, keep it consistent. Many artist who can draw very realistic things did not start that way, but steadily kept rising.
I am far from a beginner and I will still look at someone else's art and be like, "Wow, I suck"
Relatable
Yes, indeed i'am often feel discouraged everytime i see other great art and became hopeless, but everytime i see an art that is good but easy to draw it couraged me again, motivated me make me say "This is piece a cake, i can draw it."
This happens to me a lot where I feel discouraged because everywhere in my feed there are my peers and professional artists that are way advanced than me and doing a lot better with their art. Thank you for reminding me again and it’s a hard journey for every artist but motivation, learning and time will payoff!
YES, THIS! I always have my mindset as “there’s no such things as talents, only how long people learn”, i personally really enjoyed my art improvement even though it’s slow. Don’t get discouraged if there’s someone better than you, get fired up and start to practice more! Don’t compare your arts with other people’s arts, compare it to your old arts and see how far you’ve come and give yourself a good job for working really hard to get to this day.
What's great about this is that it can apply to so many other aspects of life, including art/media and sketching! There's a lot of messed-up areas of our lives where people can do unfair comparisons between themselves and others (how the beauty industry markets it's products being an infamous example), and it's why it's important to be mindful when we start unfairly comparing ourselves to others.
Regardless of what people think of Theodore Roosevelt, his quote "Comparison is the thief of joy" fits perfectly.
yep. i improved so much after i stopped going on Instagram all the time. it allowed me to be alone with my art and I realized that "hey, I actually want to learn how to draw wtf!"
Well if you can't be like them then maybe try to make your own style in art hehe
I feel like it would be really good for popular artists to show failed WIPS, art they dont like, etc, once in a while. I feel like it could motivate ppl and show that even their idols aren’t perfect.
I’m always trying to better myself. I did a portrait a week in pen and ink to get better with proportions. Then I started working on inanimate objects. Now I’m about to start on landscapes and background. With the people and objects, I have started stylizing. After I feel I get some understanding with background, I will work on storytelling (plan on being there by mid summer).
That's a good plan!
Thanks! I meant that in the sense that I use other artists as motivation to take the next step. When I see someone on social media, I try to break down what they are doing and how to do. Granted, I can and do get frustrated because I’m not able get something how I want the first time. However, it’s like that saying, “it doesn’t matter how hard you hit, it’s how hard you get knocked down and keep getting back up.” I figure out my issue and adjust and go at it again and again.
Yeah and since the main key in art is imagination to draw what you want to portray
Sometimes I look at my old sketchbooks, it makes me realise that I’ve gotten way better, and I actually understand some of what I’m doing, it’s a good practice for me personally
I remember the first time I got into the art classroom where I had classes and saw all those paintings so beautiful and realistic and I remember thinking "I'm never going to be able to do such things". Five years later I was painting Arnold Schwarzenegger in a 100×70 canvas 😂
I think it’s important for people to know that they CAN get better and they CAN match or even surpass those they look up to. We should also always remind ourselves that talent is nothing more than a head start so to speak. It doesn’t matter if you have loads of talent or none at all, you can and will get to where you want to be as long as you put in time and effort.
This is why instead of comparing yourself to someone you should appreciate their talents and efforts and push yourself to aim higher
the piller of worry was my dad. He was brilliant. I never saw anything like what came from his hand in art. But Proko's art education align with what my father's approach art where (pretty darn close) like how to sharpen a pencil, how to hold a pencil, light source (my dad sat me down for that lecture lol). This is a good time to be an Artist. Anyways you always learn something or try something but this takes time. Or you see something like a Sorolla and think oh man I gotta do that lol . 👍 short video always hits insightful!
You're so lucky to have a dad who knows how to draw. I would be begging my parents to lecture me on what they know.
You have an art teacher in your home who can teach you for free. Lucky You!
I had a rough patch with my confidence for a while when I was younger. I’ve been improving gradually over time, but my younger cousin is amazing and has a steep learning curve. Even though I started seriously learning earlier than her, she zoomed by me in terms of skill and improvement. I’ve since gotten over the soreness and have been trying to rethink how I view my own goals for developing skill. I try not to look at the amazing artists I follow as ‘they’re so much better than me’ and instead think of it as ‘what about their art do I like and how can I learn to do it too?’.
This is why I keep old sketches and sketchbooks. I can look back years, months, even days and just see the crazy amount of progress I’ve made.
This is why I try and follow artists at all skill levels. 1 - to help support smaller artists and 2 - to help remind myself that it’s a journey. And we all start off somewhere
Honestly, looking at other people's work, sometimes inspires me. It's looking at my own work and comparing it to how I would've liked to have been that discourages me.
I hear this one a lot too. It's hard to set realistic expectations for yourself.
If you can make something and feel that you got most of the way there to what you envisioned, that's a success.
The more you learn and the better you get, the more you'll expect from yourself. You'll always be just behind what you aim to make. Learning to recognize you got most of the way there is good.
The video : 🙂
The doll in the pelvic area in the background : 💀
Lol, that's what some artists' studios and work areas/desks are like! Sometimes ideas get tossed around and some of them unintentionally exude uncanny-valley territory. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
When I see some of my favorites working, I then get a boost of “I need to get up right now and paint.” It’s a nice feeling
I think a positive outlook on this is to see those reels and videos of hella talented artists and try improving yourself, like, get inspired! And keep drawing and doodling cause thats the only way you can really get better 👊🙏🙏 i hope it helps for someone reading (:) and that you try it yourself, cause theres always gonna be someone thats quite on quote "better" 💗but theres never gonna someone as unique and special as you 🤗 so dont ever get embarrased to show your art, no doubt in my mind youre gonna be a hell of a great artist too ❤️❤️❤️ stay safe 💕
It's encouraging to keep examples of your own artistic attempts and gauge your progress in terms of improvement in your own work as you combine what you of learned from the artists you imitate plus some original aspects of your own.
My friend has always been so much better than I am at art, and he learned so fast, and it made me have such a shitty outlook on my art, and now it's really bothering me to the point where it isn't healthy. I sincerely needed this.
As a 3d artist learning character creation I'm always in awe at the characters I see other artists make. But then I actually take a minute to think about it.
They've been doing it professionally for 10+ years.
I've been learning it on my own for 3 years. Just gotta keep grinding and eventually I'll get there, but not before finding someone elses work I admire.
Also you should be analyzing and learning from those artist you enjoy, pick up tricks and techniques that you see to make your own unique spin in your art
I have a hard time sometimes because people around me don’t understand sketching in a sketchbook and think every piece of work needs to be a masterpiece. I enjoy just sketching and doodling. It’s good to develop skills and get ideas for bigger projects, but after some comments I doubt myself. Nice to see Marshall.
To anyone who is striving to become a better artist, whether just starting out, trying to go from intermediate to the next level, learning new styles, or perfecting your own, learn to manage your expectations. You cannot compare yourself to professional artists, and you should not, they are, professionals for a reason, but you can use them, their techniques, and ability as good steps for yourself. If you can manage your expectations they you will be proud of your progress and be left more fulfilled overall, it’s a skill that is very useful for learning, you are not born with it, it’s something you must learn, but as always keep striving to improve, you got this :)
Fine arts from painting, drawing, instruments and singing can bless you with talents but there’s such a wide variety of skills and styles it doesn’t matter how talented you are if you don’t continue to endlessly learn and practice
Makes me glad I was so stubborn to learning how to draw and started from scratch myself and slowly learning/observing art that I find the most appealing to me and absorbing the style little by little until it’s my own style
I feel like I was a “fast beginner” as kid where drawing just came easy to me so once it required a little more effort, I felt like I was failing and got scared and discouraged. I rmbr sitting in still life drawing classes and for two hrs beating myself up over spheres, cubes and sculptures and literally holding back tears bc I was so frustrated. I stopped going to classes bc of my crippling perfectionism and didn’t know it at the time. I had a big ego with zero self esteem, so my skill never caught up with my expectations. I rlly regret not sticking it through those classes and allowing myself to make mistakes. So now I’m gonna enjoy my slow zone although I still feel in a rush to master everything, that mindset in the end will only become overwhelming.
Intellectually I’m aware that the only way to improve is to not give up and not care how bad your art is as first. But I definitely find myself getting discouraged without realizing it and avoiding trying because of that
I look at certain artists always thinking _"goddamn i wanna be that good, i want to reach this level"_
Tbh When I see art on Instagram and Twitter it makes me wanna work even harder and get up from what I’m doing and draw I’m like intermediate rn but I wanna get better
i’ve had to tell myself this countless times, but hearing it from someone else makes me feel so much better 😭❤️ thank you
Yeah, this was pretty much how I thought for most of my life before I finally let loose just recently actually , and I looked at my art from a different angle and realized I was actually pretty good
You don't know how much I needed to hear this today
Wait huh
I started drawing when i was 4 and when i was 8 or 9 i just didnt draw jack, but now i try to keep my motivation afloat but this channel is the sole reason my motivation for art.
I always loved looking at better artists and would try to replicate the technique so I could be a better artist ☺️
Idk I see good artists on instagram and it’s more inspiring than anything. Makes me feel like “oh man I can’t wait to keep drawing and hopefully I’ll get to that level someday”.
That's how we should look at it! Some people end up feeling the opposite.
Seeing how good other artists are only means that skill is possible!
"if you were satisfied with your skill level you would have no motivation to improve" that's the part that really matters to me bc I always get people who don't understand why I'm always so critical of my own art. I'm happy with how far I've come but I'm not happy with where I am so I'll keep going.
I just picked up drawing last week at 25 years old. Something that kept me from attempting it in the past was comparing myself to established artists like this. But since picking it up, looking at these masters only motivates me to get better tbh
I used to compare myself to my favorite artist, so I was stuck with the same style and way I used to draw. Now I use their drawing to learn, I learn how they do things and learn their techniques. It's the best way to improve for me :)
My Art stayed the same with absolutely zero improvements from ages 16-26. 10 years!!!!! I became an artist full time 3 years ago and my art has improved MASSIVELY from just drawing every day!
Even as recent as last night im still learning and developing new techniques! Finally can draw smoke properly on paper lol
I started 3D modelling on blender, been learning for 3 weeks now, and I haven't improved past making a decent katana, I keep comparing myself with professionals on UA-cam that have been doing it their whole life, and it got demotivated and almost gave up, I really needed this. Thank you.
I always tell people that anyone can draw, and that talent is not something that makes you unnaturally good at something right away.
It can make you more inclined towards that thing, but it still needs to be trained and honed like anything else.
Nobody gets ripped in just a day, and nobody gets amazing at drawing in a single day, either.
I've been drawing since I was very small, and even now, at almost 21 years of age, there are wayyyy too many things I have yet to even try let alone improve on.
Art is a never ending path of growth. That path has many twists, turns, and branches.
You have to take the first step on that path.
I recommend looking at your old art and redrawing it. It made me feel a lot more proud of my art.
I did get discouraged , but i want to improve so im going to art classes, learning, practicing sketches
i’ve never really been i to drawing but some weeks ago i started. it’s been a fun bht difficult start, i was so frustrated and discouraged because i couldn’t seem to get it right, but when i compare my first tries to me recent ones, i can see an improvement. i realised that like you said i was trying to compare myself to professionals or people with much more experience, and it was slowing down my progress. thanks for this!
The no motivation to improve is so true, I get better rapidly and then I slowed down because I was satisfied but it just worked against me
I felt like i suck for a long time, now i just take inspiration and take notes from the people i follow to learn. And now i actually love slowly learning to get better and see my own journey
My father who was a great drawer always said the most important skill is to learn how to see. If you eyes can't guide your pencil, forget about drawing. That's a mindset I still use so often when I just look a things I convert it into drawings in my head. I will never get as good as my dad, but he thought me alot, and definitely gave some of his skills to me.
The struggle is so hard, makes the toughest artists.
I just compliment every artist i see, beginner or pro. Believe me "jokingly hating" on someone hurts a lot more than it seems.
You should not be discouraged by anything. There is always going to be someone better than you doesn’t matter if you are playing sports or making art. Everyone has their own unique style.
Learn to be inspired, I never have this issue because when I see some really good art I dont feel bad, I just feel like I want to get to that point
TRUE. I feel like a part of the reason I stopped drawing was that I was satisfied. Been drawing since I was 4yo and I guess I got tired of it almost
I use other artists to understand their philosophy so I can improve my own, I have no problem whatsoever looking at work that inspires me
There is so many talented people out there. And i guess anyone can get good, with practice. I guess its good that there is always someone better than you :)
The good thing about me is when I see videos like those they don’t make me discourage they make me motivated
It used to be very discouraging to compare my art with those I look up to.
It’s been 7 years since I started drawing as a hobby and now when I compare my art to how it used to look I feel disgusted with what I used to make and it makes me happy if my improvement.
I think I’m good, but before I publish any of my art I’d like to reach a level at least somewhat comparable to where I’d like to be. Looking at people I follow now shows me a goal that isn’t so far anymore, I’m just going to need to get more serious about this to pull through.
To any artists struggling with motivation, just draw whatever is fun to you and maybe abstain from social media for a bit, draw a lot and then draw the comparison to the start of the week. I wish you best of luck!
Second scenario of when you see other artists on instagram you get motivated to draw just like them and so you don’t stop as they will be drawing more and if you don’t practice then you won’t reach your goal.
I speak from experience😊
I takenna look at the 3rd year graduation showcase at my university and taken a look at illustration and animation courses
I realized I highly underestimated myself
I’ve realised that I place other artists in one of two categories without even thinking about it. There are those who inspire me and just looking at their work instantly makes me want to draw and then there are those that make me go ‘man, what’s the point in even trying, I’ll never be that good.’
And then I realised that’s ok. Doesn’t mean what i’m doing is not good or valid. I’ve begun to trust the process and have fun learning more along the way.
Per my highschool art teacher and some of my college professors "the only time you stop growing is when you stop learning. Learning never stops and is on going"
My childhood best friend and I just confessed to each other that for 12 years we have been using each other to motivate ourselves. One would draw something the other was struggling with, so the other would get competitive and become determined to draw it better. We've spent 12 years one upping each other without realizing it was mutual haha. We both still feel the same way, but we're showering each other with compliments. It's a blessing and I'm glad we've realized what we've been doing.
I love that!
I know im not an amazing artist but it takes time, but its nice to hear that from someone who is well, good at art
As he say "..slow begginers.." it makes me want to level up my talent in Art...SLOWLY ❤❤
i need a circle of friends that has this kind of mindset...
i draw over 10 years, still havent found my own style and still can learn everyday something new
I only ever knew two people who I can say for sure had artistic talent. I knew both when I was a kid. The first of the two -- slightly older -- had a pretty amazing knack for drawing from an early age. First time I saw one of her drawings, I was blown away. And as she grew older, she could read an art book in a sitting and just absorb and use all the information. She didn't have to study, but study made her better. The other, I pretty much babysat by the time I met her, and she was churning out stunning, nearly photorealistic images already. Apparently, that started the first time she touched a crayon. Some people are just born with a capacity you aren't which they didn't learn and can't teach -- and you'll never catch up with them. Those people are very few. Compared to them, the rest of us are on a pretty even playing field.
Getting discouraged by viewing good art, as an artist is so true! I deleted Twitter for this very reason.
Crazy, how this video just appeared while i'm going through the same thing💔😔
I see it less as comparison and more as motivation now.. then again, I think I’ve reached a comfortable point in my art where I’m happy with the good things I make (which took a lot of effort to achieve on its own) and yet I always seek improvement for the sake of passion! I might be flying a little close to the sun but I follow artists who humble me haha
I didn’t know how to put it into words, but yes.
At the same time though, it gives you something to match or out do.
I really miss kim jung gi, one of the best korean artists
Now that his daughter took the mantle but she draws the same as her father
This applies to all skills in life
Things take time to learn but trust in the process. We’ll all get there
wow thanks this like 5 seconds has changed my life for the better, I’m gonna get off youtube shorts and do something I really want to do
I actually get really motivated to learn from said artist and attempt to make a similar or even better piece because I honestly have fun making art I compare myself to my past self and the me of today is on another level 😄
What he said at the end is like that with everything and every category of your life. Don't ever feel like u the best... there's always better
I've been drawing since i was 18 after six years i feel that i haven't improved but after looking at my old drawings i see how each drawing has something that I improved on
This is literally me! Especially with instagram seeing how good others are compared to me, it really makes me upset and I forget that they were once at the same level of skill I have right now
It's fascinating because I'm also very slow learner and art. I finally gotten to the point that with practice I found out that there's different things I'm really good at. And I've never liked the idea of building up shapes first for anatomy. This is just one of the things I've recently learned, and that is - sometimes having a shape does help, but doing that whole process that everyone does I thought I was just lazy and I just didn't enjoy doing it but turns out it generally doesn't help me cuz I was drawing cats the other day and they looked awful! I knew I could do a cat ESPECIALLY if I can do landscapes and all these other complex things! SO I decided to mess around and I started stippling my line art very gently in the direction I knew I wanted it to be. I did I did a cat standing up and one laying down and both of them... Have almost PERFECT anatomy👀. And I know I suck at anatomy! So I found out the way I do things I've never seen people do before and it works the best for me because I struggle with anatomy so much but those two pieces were beyond skill level that I was aware I had for animals! So I really showed myself last night. Instead of studying the art to find what I like... During that process I more so have to study MYSELF and see what's best for me🥰
Im a 19 years old that was always fascinanted whit art, i tend to compare myself a lot whit the Young Prodigy that have like 16 and make wonderful pieces, listen to that was what i needed today, thank you
Marshall Vandruff is always so inspiring.
Thank you you have inspired me to continue my dream of becoming an amazing drawer
I love how Bob is just hanging out in the pelvis
“Something that you should have.” Exactly, not like an entitled feeling but something I didn’t put the time in I should’ve.
I have to listen to this every once in awhile