Cold Turkey off Benzodiazepine. How I decided NOT to come off cold turkey!
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- This brief 2 month experience of "cold turkey" launched me into my benzo withdrawal journey. Please check out See ya Perfection! Pt 1 Cold Turkey before viewing this!
Post acute withdrawals for life :( .... I just stay on .5 at night for life .... Benzodiazepines is a life alternating decision .... They should label that on them :( it's no joke
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Please any positive support of dosing back up I was only on .5-1 mg Ativan for 6 weeks This has been so bad My doc on Friday with the pharmacist decided I should go back up. I went down to .25 starting aug 23. The symptoms are crazy non tolerable I really feel like I can’t make it today starting that week I had pelvis and back pain crazy stomach pains to anxiety feeling I can’t take care of kids can’t eat can’t sleep stopped going to work then I was not wanting to drive or go to store I’m fallingappart headaches leg pain and jello legs hot and cold I can’t take care of my kids I went from a month ago working cooking cleaning running my kids around planning trips and eating and exercising last day was aug 6th. I want to cry I want to scream I don’t have support for 2 plus years I have bills including a home and two teenage boys in high school. I cried on Friday because I couldn’t go to my son football game. I never missed a game. They will loose there mother. I always put them first always :-\
Dema Martinez how are you doing now
@@francinemartinez-cruz3335 how u doing Did you read the Ashton Maual ??
Post withdrawls for life?
I would STRONGLY recommend not coming off benzos cold turkey. Especially at higher doses and after several months or years of use. It can be extremely dangerous. As in deadly dangerous. Seizures are very common as well as a slew of other emergencies. Please taper from your benzos, don't try cold turkey if you've been on them for awhile.
johnmickle Great advice...your 100% correct.
johnmickle I've been on them for approx. 8 years and want off. While ON them, I could care less what people think. While OFF them, I care about everything going on around me and what everybody thinks ...Super paranoid. I want to retrain my brain to cope with life. I want a safe approach to taper off klonopin. I've tried to cut doses in the past and I can feel my blood pressure rise as well as my paranoia. My Doc. just keeps prescribing them for me, suggesting that if I feel better taking them, then just keep taking them. I know it's a cop-out to take this kind of stuff, but I've suffered most of my life with anxiety. There's got to be other ways. Doctor's been no help at this point to help me lower my dose, or get off completely ...Which I want to do! I hate the drug and I'm so sick of being dependent on it. ...Any advice??? SOLID ADVICE!
Shortstory123 SSRIs (antidepressants like Prozac and Zoloft) can help with anxiety. Long term use of benzodiazepines can definitely lead to increased anxiety when you're coming off of them. Try to taper down slowly and see if you can get off. It's not going to be pleasant, but I bet you'll feel a lot better once it's all over.
Another option to try and quit might be asking your doctor for something longer acting. Librium (chlordiazepoxide) is a very long acting benzo, so you wouldn't have as much of the highs and lows as the shorter acting benzos. It would also be easier to taper your dose on a long acting benzo with less withdrawal symptoms.
ldalfkjahsl I appreciate your advice. I look forward to the day I can live without relying on this drug. I suffer from "panic attacks," as they say ...and I know tapering will likely lead to these feelings. I understand from others these are normal feelings and to try and cope with it is just normal everyday life. Everyone suffers at one time or another from some sort of discomfort of anxiety ...I just need to keep that in mind.
Shortstory123 And also keep in mind you've been on these drugs for nearly a decade so your panic is probably going to be worse than ever in your life. But this is not the way it will be forever. Once you wean yourself off of benzos you may still occasionally have anxiety, but it will not be as bad as it is now when you try to come off.
It's nice to see a normal fit, and together person going through this. Not happy that your suffering! Thanks for sharring!
Unless you have gone through this stuff ,it's hard for people to understand how tough it is ,I'm glad you had a friend with you
It's horrible if your on your own
Amen on all accounts. Im alone going thru hell
Sooo true
Absolutely
I like watching your videos. Primarily because you are so positive in them and not so horrific like others. I was addicted to xanax big time a few months ago. I ran out of my script early and didnt think it would be a problem but it was a problem......a BIG one. I went through the worst withdrawls i never thought human could go through. I'm on klonopin now and things are much much better. Only take them occassionally. I have a big stash of them in case some wise crack doctor makes me wanna go cold turkey so i would never tell my doc i'm addicted to anything. Jesus bless
I’m about 6 weeks from 2mg cold turkey of clonazapam after 10 years of daily use - never abused. Probably the best decision I’ve ever made, but I’m finally eating healthy, exercising (not strenuous), and going to group therapy daily down at the Miami VA. I feel better than I’ve felt in years.
That's great. You can sleep??
Did you ever feel your brain doesn't function normally and can't understand that people can do normal things and live their lives normally and became overwhelmed of any normal things? When on klonopin and after taper? I call it brain lock.
I am doing crossover from klonopin to diazepam and I asked to taper with Ashton manual and my doctor supported me.
This hell started in summer 2021when my dog had to put to sleep at the age of 16 and I had terrible panic attacks and doctor prescriped me a big amount of oxazepam and doctor didn't warn. I was shocked when I realised that I was hooked up with this drug. I have been though many traumas and survived from them and have good life. Year ago I had bad withdrawl symptoms of oxazepam and doctor did crossover from oxazepam to diazepam 10 mg. Brain lock went away. My depression symptoms went away because I could do anything and felt good, I could see my partner and mom and other people (Now im isolated a lot because I tell my hell all the time to my loved ones and feel like I'm in a different reality from other people) could have normal sleep and normal mornings in peace. I could exercise and have a good feeling first time after my dog died. I could go to store without agoraphobia (normally I'm confident active social person) and cook and was happy and sure that I will get off of diazepam. But taper was too quick and went badly wrong. In spring I was one month without benzo and in hospital and they tapered me to zero straight and I had terrible panic attacks and withdrawl symptoms and rude doctor said after I couldn't have any withdrawl symptons and I got to home very sick. Nobody said it could take a year or something to heal. Another doctor prescriped me klonopin to get me relief for a while and then taper but it didn't help. When I go to the store to get food I feel depersonalization and derealisation. And if I try to walk and run (wich I love) brain lock ruins it and I feel like my brain just shuts down. I'm isolated and fear to go even outside my home. I have never felt like this. I wake up every morning to death and can take one day suffering with brain like this and anxious and not live.
After six months of suffering and being in constant fight or flight state I said month ago to my doctor that I think I suffer withdrawl even don't taper and want to taper with Ashton manual and she was willing to read it and we started few weeks ago. I feel awful. I have dropped klonopin from 2,5 mg to 1 mg and added 30 mg of diazepam, total amount of diazepam is about 50 mg 😥 And year ago I had just 10 mg and I was myself and my brain worked few weeks. I was so close.
My doctor says I have tolerance and that's why klonopin didn't help and she thinks this drug is making me sick and more anxious and I agree. She thinks when I'm enough long time off of benzo my anxiety will get easier and brain lock will go. I fear I have permanent brain damage and I don't understand a simple thing and afraid for my independent life. I have called to my country's best rehab center (we don't have good places for benzo) and they said they taper normally in 2-3 weeks and I said I die in that timeline and they said my doctor can talk to their doctor and ask longer time. I think I have to quit there, I am not addict, have dependency but I think I don't have physically and mentally power to taper a year and then heal. Even it would be best for the brain to addapt slowly. I was year ago (before I got diazepam in hospital) week in an awful rehab center and they took 30 mg off of oxazepam in a week and I didn't sleep, felt paralysed, puking, was almost in psychosis and then I was supposed to see a nurse and talk to her and go back to rehad center but right when she saw me she asked a doctor who said I'm in very bad withdrawl and sent me to hospital and I got relief when I had diazepam.
So I know the fast tapering is pure hell but I think I have no choice. I want my functioning brain back. Thank you if you can answer if you had any problems with brain function and understanding normal things in any point. Hope you are well.
You have to taper off of benzodiazepines... Otherwise you could have seizures and it could be life threatening.
This is true. The seziures it throws you into can kill you
+Trever Marlow Cold Turkey causes harm and/or death You MUST taper. I am a medical professional and forced benzodiazepine withdrawal with out tapering at a pace comfortable for the PATIENT, NOT the doctor is medical malpractice grounds. Case closed
+Doomedmandy77 correct.
+Webcam,
1. bedroom must be dark
2. begin relaxing 1 1/2 before lating in bed
3. apologize to your lover or agree to talk about problem the next day, not in bed.
4. go over what 1 good thing you did that cannot or you wont accept repayment for
5. give thanks to God for the day
6. ask God to direct you tomorrow
etc.
+Juana Gallo only one problem, there's no god....
I am in the process of getting off Lorazepam and it's crazy. I didn't have the worst symptoms because in the meantime I do bio-therapy and the therapist said: "get off them, now is the time because the withdrawal will be easier with my treatment". He actually healed a lot of people and I trust but it's so confusing and scary. My family does not really understand and I feel like a confused vegetable. It's a week now since I went from reducing them totally to taking 1 pill/day instead of 2. Today I did not take it and I am so afraid. I want my life back :( I hope I make it
+georgiana p. Are you out?
How are you today?
How you doing? Update?
Great video,I was on 1 mg of Ativan for 2 weeks then switched to 5 mg of valium and took it for 2 solid months, and took these drugs on a daily basis and sometimes took them 2 times a day and then it got to the point where I couldn't even get out of bed so I decided to quit so I did I quit cold turkey , O and buy the way I was currently on Percocet as well for gallbladder surgery, I am currently 11 months off and still messed up but not as bad as the first 7 months, I nearly died the first 3 months off I had to be monitored at the hospital for many weeks cause I had many seizures and stroke like symptoms while in the hospital also my bp was 200/150/145 during this time, and someone had to be with me 24/7 cause I was suicidle the pain and shear terror from within my body was so intense that I nearly didn't make it, I am much better at this point but still miserable, One of my drs. recognized it as benzo withdrawal and said this is classic PAWS and could last 2 years for me, I have been drug free of any drugs for 11 months also caffeine free for 11 months cause I am very hypersensitive to anything still at 11 months off. I believe this drug should only be for in hospital use only not prescribe them, very,very,very nasty drug its shear hell for a long time it can ruin your life. Thanks
Glad you feel better. You look fantastic :)
One year ago I stopped Xanax cold turkey. I was on Xanax for 27 years and was taking 6/mg daily. My doctor lost his license to prescribe controlled substance. I am going through the worst nightmare of suffering that I want to die. I never could have imagined the thousands of symptoms of torture of my body attacking itself
Cindy how r u now my frd
I did it! One month, after 20 years, & feeling alive again! WOW! There are colors again! I'm AWAKE! Its great to be free. So worth it but never want to go thru that again, or let the med profession take over my life either! What a viciuos cycle - no one would help me.
RROKNG1RRLL99 I can sympathise. Been on and of Diazepam/Valium for 23 years, last few months was taking up too 80mg a day then went cold turkey. The NHS here in the UK are useless, they stated me on it then stopped it suddenly so I sought it elsewhere. Having horrible withdrawal symptoms but hanging on. Good luck to you.
Hang on! Its worrh it! I am finslly feeling ALIVE!! It is truly amazing! I would do it agsin if I knew I woild feel so GREAT! No meds at all & feel like I am high on something - maybe its a rebound effect. Where did I come up with that word? I dunno, but I feel soooo good! 43 days off the benzo's! What a wild and crazy roller coaster ride its been! I might say I'd rather be dead tomorrow, but this day I love being alive! Still haven't slept much but I NEVER want to go back to that enslavement! I don't care how many panic attacks hit me - all they are is just shaking & gasping but none of them killed me! Felt like it but was just another feeling - not real. Hard to believe that at the time tho... Lost a LOT of weight! Down to 105 lbs from 120! Was hard to eat food. I ate soup, yogart w/honey, a ton of home made rice pudding, sardines, tuna, salmon, iced tea, Throw Back Mt Dew (a soda here w/a lot of sugar & caffiene) lots of water and CELL SALTS from heath food store which are amazing! They are the 12 salts that our bodies are made of - I stumbled on by "accident" - melt under tongue & felt way better in seconds! A LOT of relaxing & favorite MUSIC and meditation, breathing exercises & ASMR vids on You Tube. Thats what I been doing to get through this hideous withdrawl + detrrmination & anger at the medical profession helped when I was crying for relief. Anyway, hope my experience helps someone else get off the vicious hell cycle of benzo dependancy! It is hell but heaven awaits! I've had glimpses of it! PRAY! XOXO!
RROKNG1RRLL99 awesome for you! Don't look back!
There isn't much help here in the U.S. either, since this is not a socialist country, if we don't have insurance, or have cash or a credit card for medical help we don't get any & I didn't get any. But ad I did it!!
GLAD I DID IT!
Good stuff. I am also on the benzo free expedition. glad your feeling better and are positive about things. I think that is the key to slaying this dreadful beast. our minds have been altered and we need to adopt positivity in to our new intellects whilst they heal. I wish you well
I came of benzos zanax valium what ever as long as it was a benzo...didn't know you could have all these side effects...I went cold turkey from eating 90 zanax in 4 days and I prayed for 4-5 days for god to help me and im not a church goer either but the man exist never had a seizure but all the other side effets I felt I felt like death for4-5 days I was all by myself at home for those days I was scared b ut god showed me the way... haven't been hooked on them scince im 22 now that was when I was 16-17 of zanax abuse...yall can do it have faith in yourself and faith in the big guy he will get you through it. peace my friends.
wow erin, that's really incredibly brave that you went to the library and filled out applications in that condition. that is incredibly strong. i will keep watching. im interested in the liquid taper you mention...~T
im two weeks off xanax i took four mg a day sometimes six mg a day for two months plus clonazepam. sometimes i would chew them to get high. im finally starting to feel real again i guess if that makes sense
Thanks for the video it was really positive. I have had exactly same experience as you. I was on clonazepam for 12 years 1.5mg and taking up to 2mgs extra in abuse regularly. Came off cold turkey bit only lasted 5 days. Went to a doctor who put me on 10mg of diazepam which is only equivalent to .5 clonapin. My life was hell for 2 years. I've been tapering diazepam in that time and down to my last 2mg tablet. Loved ur video.
Now what are you feeling?
Cold turkey is deadly with benzos and it's dangerous to give people the idea to go about it this way. You should encourage those wanting to get off benzos to talk to a doctor about a safer way to do this
Some doctors tell you to cold turkey so I don't trust that doctor shit.
Naw ur just being a coward!!!!
If you have been taking benzos long term, do NOT go off cold turkey! The withdrawals can lead to seizures and death.
If you take only 2 months you can quit cold Turkey??
I mean 2 mg dose before sleep?
4:07 - 4:11 Erin, I don't think many people 'planned on being' an addict.
I've done 30mg cold turkey twice. It's really not that bad if you stay positive. Trust me.
How long does the acute withdrawl last
It sucks...The fear makes it worse. Some people are more sensitive than others, but I agree that attitude is very important.
Thank you for posting this video. I totally relate to it.
Peace be with you..
~Craig~
I'm so happy for you now your off the drugs:-) I'm four days of benzos
Thank you for sharing this and God bless you! Keep well keep strong:-)
Xx
Well, doctors are giving a hard time to give a prescription now.
How are you now? I am free on Benzos because of your vids. After 2 long years I am slowly starting to feel better.
Has anyone heard about James Arthur?
He has gone cold turkey from weed, benzos, antidepressants, alcohol and more twice. He spoke out about the panic attacks he got from the wihdrawrals saying they where so bad he called out ambulances thinking he was dying. Check out some of his music he's got some songs speaking directly on his addiction and how he completely just lost himself and who he was. Him getting through it all and going on to do what he's done and doing now is inspiring for me personally. I will beat the Benzos
Here is a list of the song. It know it will help some people and work as some form of medicine
Train Wreck
Finally (this song is about being in a good place but was written in his darkest. Envisioning what he wanted)
Remember Who I Was
If Only
Recovery
Smoke Clouds
Sermon
The Truth
Let Me Love The Lonely
I'm A Liar
Phoenix
You Can't See Me
I Unproudly PresentCarry Us
I want to CT .5 mg of clonezepam after being on it for 1 year. This drug is a nightmare. I have alot of differant physiological symptoms. Derealization, worse anxiety/panic, paranoia, body aches, diarhea, heart palps, dizziness. I want off. And i wish i could find a good dr. In SD that could understand this shit and help me. Im depressed and scared. If God is real, i need His help with this big time. Good luck anyone. We're fighting for our lifes here.
I'm with you, If I were you I would do the water titration method I wish I would have done this earlier. I'm down to 0.05mg k yesterday I had really bad stomach pain, headache and heart palpations
@@aimlessintopeka suprisingly ive been able to stay at .25- .5 a day only. But if i go too long without it.. Like a whole day..i feel it. Worse anxiety/panic attacks, dizzy, derealization. I hate the Dr who gave it to me. It actually works but im afraid that ill get stuck this way if its ever taken away now so i want to taper now. What a life. There must be some cosmic reason some of us on Earth are so sensitive to everything. I stopped trying to figure it out and try to stay away from the things that hurt me. Thanks for reaching out. Means alot. Im gonna try to taper at 10% a month.
I am an exec for large cable company. I was under so much pressure. My doctor prescribed 2 mg Xanax 120 pills. After 2 years of taking xanax, I decided to stop completely. After one week later, I was in bed with my wife. And in 5 in the morning, I went into full seizure. I was in the hospital for 4 days. And thereafter, I got another seizure within 3 weeks and was back in the hospital. My license was revoked. Now I am waiting until my doctor clears me to drive again
So what happened?
I came off 6 mg of clonazepam cold turkey! I have been on my journey for three months now, I went through hell! Just now starting to feel a little better and that has been continuing day by day for the last three weeks:-) Don't do it I did! I went to a detox for opiates and they took me off everything. I had two seizures and almost died! Don't take benzo's
You jumped off at 6mg? Jesus you are mental! That is so unsafe. Wow....I can't believe you did that. That takes serious balls....
I don't have an opiate problem. But I have been on Benzos, legally for 6 years. I am finally down to 1mg of Kpin. And every .5mg taper sucks. Now that I got down from 1.5mg to 1. I was taking valium in the middle of the day. That helped make the taper very easy. Short stints on valium. Then stabilize at the new kpin dose. Next drop in 2 months out. Same method. then off. Its taken ages. And I am sick of it.
It's been 12 months now and I still have a few lingering symptoms. If I drink alcohol they are much worse! I tried to stay away from that as well. Mostly agitation and ringing in the ears. I also have some involuntary movements at times, And depression. But all in all I am doing much better! The only thing I can say is just keep plugging away and remember all of your symptoms are temporary! God bless everyone keep fighting the good fight!
Thats crazy. Lucky you did not die but wd will last for years because of the cold turkey
I was there on both too and cold turkey off both. I never thought i would be normal again. I was so scared I was going to be brain damaged for rest of my life as well as how you are so awake almost like your "3rd eye" opens and you feel like you are on the wrong planet and see everything soo different. I will never understand why they would make a med that does this to ppl... and I wasn't warned about either one. I blame alot of this on Dr's.... as well as the government. They made trillions while knowing what it was doing. They can make something that does what we need without making us so sick when we stop. Like they want us to stop. Omg it was the worst experience ever... I wanted to die. I prayed to take me... thats how bad it was. Smh
@@supdew7289 how are you now
I take larazepam,&clanzpam I will never quit I do need them I have no apologies for taking them plus others anxiety &sleep it helps me I have no bad side effects !
I sure know and unless you have you don't know.I stopped Valium after 7 years because my dr retired and another one wouldn't It me on it,so I had no choice but to stop just like you.Oh my God this was not good and it got worse after 3 weeks all the things you experience I did to.It been 2 and 1/2 years and I feel great finally but it was Hell for a strong 3 months.I did not think I would survive but I did.Drug companies need to be sued for this very cruel.Doctors don't even know unless they are one that been through it.I look back and see how it sucked many years of my life when I was on it and of course I did not see that at time.Yep we need to sue for that they would deserve it.God Bless us both for making it through 😃❤️🙏
how the hell r all these people going through withdrawal afford to just lay in bed all day somehow i feel like im getting the shaft somehow
Gabba Gabba hey...(yes I'm still on Xanax I have been for 16 yrs. I'm a lifer). I know I can't handle coming off of them. I won't even bother to try. I've been through withdrawal when I got locked up. Fuck that. I'm staying on these forever.
i quit cold turkey 4mg a day, its truly hell.
I took some Xanax out of being ignorant, for about 3 days in total, and I hardly ever take Xanax. On the first day I ran out I had massive panic attacks and stayed awake for 4 days Straight. It's been 15 days and it's better, but I guess I'm still not out of the woods ☹ I'll never touch those things again, this has scared me to no end, I'm still scared that I'll have seizures
How to have a grand mal seizure!
Gabapentin is now used to taper off this crap says my addiction specialist, who the hell suggested it? Has this drugged work for anyone? It's a pain reliever lol they prescribed me that too and it did nothing for me. Unfortunately I can go cold turkey but I got work and my life to live, don't want to lie in bed and stay home while suffering from cold turkey withdrawal...ive done it and know what to expect, fortunate for me all my symptoms of withdrawal are mental symptoms, no physical symptoms. Everyday is suffering but I take it day by day :), the lower the dose(valium taper) the better you feel. I'm down to 12.5mg, Il be off this shit soon.
Gabapentin at high doses did okay. Not great.
@@shineon4863 I heard positive feed back on Gabapentin for withdrawls
Alex how r u now my frd
I had a seizure without the reason 3 months ago, i’d been sent to the hospital, and then the psychiatrist had given me the phenobarbital 200mg and Valium 10 mg per day, after i took those medicines for 1 month i felt more drowsiness, problem of movement and hard breathing. after that, i went to see the doctor, and doctor told me to reduce the phenobarbital from 200 to 100mg and valium 10 to 5mg. after that i experienced with many withdrawal symptoms such as: headache, hypersensitive to noise, muscle spam, heart palpitation, anxiety, depression, insomnia, anorexic, tiredness and etc. 25 days later, doctor told me to cut valium from 5mg to 2.5, but still keep phenobarbital at the same dose at 100mg, during this time i still experienced the same symptoms, but i can stay with it. 15 days later, the doctor told me to take out of valium from 2.5mg like (Cold turkey), day 1-2 i had panic attack, anxiety, day 3-4 i had a trouble with breathing and other days with the many symptoms like the first cut the valium from 10 to 5mg. Currently, i had been taking of Valium from 2.5mg for 1 month, but i’m still feeling with anxiety, sleep problem, tiredness, but feel it will be reducing. With all that said, i recommend you shouldn’t withdraw this medicine by Cold Turkey way. lastly, this is my fault that i didn’t search the information before and if i know the way that this doctor told me to tapper this medicine, i won’t do as his recommendation.
I think nuerontin aka gabapentin helps up to a point also lyrica which I think is basically a more potent form of gabapentin. Pregabalin
Love the way you pronounce "withdrawal" and you are the image of ahh benzo brain..the girl in kill bill. Stay strong xx
I go cold turkey from Bromazepam without any problems after 10 years on it.
Are you still ok today? Glad to hear that you had any problems of the cold turkey.
Yes quite good :)
Glad to hear. You were pretty lucky not to have any withdrawals after 10 years. Did you take it often and did you take much of it?
I never didn't take it much. Only 3mg per day. Off course if dose is higher then other story
im 14 days into cold turkey withdrawl off kps. its no longer a physical withdrawl ive done THIS over 100 times so my body is used to the pain. everytime i go bk to the dr they give me more benzos saying its not safe but ive clearly stated that i will fill these i will abuse these and ill be in the same spot i am now. im a addict now! i cannot help it. it took me years to confess this to drs and they dont seem to care and they are addiction specialist. why do drs continue to do this i need help and they just provide me with enough for half a month schedule me a month apart and have me deal with this myself over money. its sad that i pay these drs out my pay check and that's all that they care about that all they care about is money they don't care about my health they don't care about my well-being they don't care about whether my bills are paid or not all they care about is continuing you on your path of self-destruction and their legal drug dealers now I'm sure that there are doctors out there that actually do want to help you that actually do work with you and do not give you prescriptions for half of the month in prescription and write you off for an entire month and you can't go back in and see him for a month and if you call them and tell them that you ran out of your medication like you said you were going to run out of your medication they're going to threaten you and they're going to blackball you from addiction specialist and they're going to do everything that they can do to keep you in their program because you're giving them $300 a month and they're not willing to let that go over your sobriety they don't give a s*** and that makes me cry a lot I've seen that these doctors should be fired I think that they should be sued I think that their license should be taken away from them I know I am not the only person in this program my brothers in this program my dad's in this program they're in this program and for other reasons someone lie but they got me started on the benzos to help me withdraw from the heroin and now the benzos have become an issue and they don't want to help me with the benzo issue because their heroin addiction specialist but yet they've got me addicted to the benzos physically addicted mentally addicted emotionally addicted I can't do anything my life literally goes from day-to-day month to month they are terrible people and I need help and they refused to help me but they refuse to not let me move on and go to somewhere else or get help somewhere else they're constantly threatening to kick me out of my program over these benzos because I threatened to leave I threatened to sue if threatened to take my business elsewhere but then they hold the suboxin over my head and tell me that they'll kick me off of my Suboxone treatment if I don't continue going to them for my benzo treatment I don't know what to do
I tried cold turkey this past holiday weekend. the first two days was not hard but on thanksgiving day it hit me. cold chill, muscle cramps, numbness in my feet and around my mouth. Pretty hard to even talk. started having a seizure. I learned to never try that again!
Hi Benzofreeguru.How long were you on your medication for ?
Ok...what dose is the amount you need to be careful on?
I only take .5 mg a day.
@TheBenzoFreeGuru, Hi you mention benzos yet you never mention what kind and how much you were taking? =(
I quit cold Turkey first of January. I had no idea it was so dangerous!! Didnt think I was going to make it. I'm wondering if I'm out of the "Danger Zone" or whatever issues may simply arise due to not tapering now that I'm on month #4. I am better than I was but far from normal... .
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Success reinstating ? I can’t handle this I’m dying
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Please any positive support of dosing back up I was only on .5-1 mg Ativan for 6 weeks This has been so bad My doc on Friday with the pharmacist decided I should go back up. I went down to .25 starting aug 23. The symptoms are crazy non tolerable I really feel like I can’t make it today starting that week I had pelvis and back pain crazy stomach pains to anxiety feeling I can’t take care of kids can’t eat can’t sleep stopped going to work then I was not wanting to drive or go to store I’m fallingappart headaches leg pain and jello legs hot and cold I can’t take care of my kids I went from a month ago working cooking cleaning running my kids around planning trips and eating and exercising last day was aug 6th. I want to cry I want to scream I don’t have support for 2 plus years I have bills including a home and two teenage boys in high school. I cried on Friday because I couldn’t go to my son football game. I never missed a game. They will loose there mother. I always put them first always :-\
@@francinemartinez-cruz3335 How are you doing now? I heard some good stuff about the Heather Ashton method.
Can someone explain me the feeling to benzos? I don't get the hype, I took 2 mg of Klonopin last night and I thought I felt pretty good for literally like 2 seconds than just went away and nothing ever happened, only thing I sort of noticed was my coordination was off a little. Not even really relaxed or sedated , I don't get how people get hooked on it.
There is no "high" on benzos. I've been dependent on klonopin for years. It makes me calm and able to function, but never high. Also helps me sleep. Don't get hooked. The withdrawals are deadly and worse than heroin.
people with anxiety art wanting to feel good they just want to live outside of their own head
that is the absolute truth. no high with xanax
The difference is, addicts take it in mega doses. You'd have to do a lot more than 2 mg of it, depending on your tolerance levels, to get a major head change.
Do I get double applause for cold turkeying an AD along with my benzo lol? Almost 2 years out and still house bound with seizures and cog fog. Don't cold turkey your meds! I was pissed and stubborn.
How are you doing today?
I am being switched to Klonopin from Valium and they said a week taper from Valium before starting Klonopin.
why? valium has a longer half life but it actually is only effective for about 6 hours were klonopin is effective for 12. that's just fucking stupid
Chris Nikas It works the same for me. I am doing fine.
Depending on dose it should have a duration of at least 8-12 hours as well. With a half life of like 200 hours.
Thanks for sharing. Our stories have a lot of similarities.
when i came off xanax i lost my mind. i was in some kind of nightmare dream state. i can't describe it. it was crazy. i thought it was the apocalypse. i had to do it in jail too which was terrible.
jhjustice4all Oh my GOD: that's horrible. I hope you're okay now...
Great job getting off this med. Ive been on2.25mg for five years. That was the highest does. On about 1.25 now. Having a hard time with the taper. How did you do this. ??
Are you a self proclaimed Guru or was that title given to you? Just wondering why that's your name on here.
Also, the name of the video... of course you know it makes it sound like it might be a video about how you SHOULD cold turkey off benzos and that of course would draw attention. Was that the point of the name of the video?
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God bless you thanks for your video!!
I'm in seventh week of pregabalins withdrawal , it is hell
how much cold turkey do you have to get over withdrawals?
I switched from klonopin to xanax 6 mod sgo. Kkonpin stoppef eorming hor xanax. I have had trmors snd ny mind is crazy. Could thst be withdrawal. I feel terrible
how are you thebenzofree guro if you are only a year out?
Came off 14 years of ativan cold turkey. Been off 5 years. Ruined my swag but I have got it back.
Good for you!
From india how r u now
I was on Ativan daily from 1997 to 2010; and by the end I was up to 3mg per day. I realized that I was trapped on a dangerous drug of dubious medical value, so I decided that I wanted to get off of Ativan completely. So I tapered myself off at a pace which I would later find out was way too fast. But I don't regret doing it so quickly, because neither my therapist nor my doctor was very motivated to have me get free from the drug. So I reduced my dose by half a mg per day each week until I was free. Yes, I suffered intense withdrawl pains for 6 to 8 weeks; but after that shock of pain, I was off of Ativan and I never took the drug ever again. My psychiatrist was dumbstruck when I marched into her office one day and announced to her that I was off of Ativan; and that I no longer needed her to prescribe it for me. She congratulated me for my choice to come off of the drug; but she expressed dismay that I had chosen to do that so abruptly. She said that I should have told her of my decision, and she would have helped me to do it much more gradually.
Thomas how r u now my frd
I am on day 19 cold turkey ! The first 15 days was very painful. I'm very lucky to be getting back to my self as I got told by professionals it would take 9 month for rhe withdrawals to go. Also Ask doctors to prescribe propranolol- beater blocker it helped me for anxiety
How are you feeling now?
lisafc2000 hi Lisa I got past the 40 days but I had bad Anxiety and I needed money to pay bills so I ended up getting back in Diazepam simply so I could work, I'm now on 5mg a day with sertraline SSSRI on a taper down
@@speedgarageuk you can sleep; how are you now??
Kostas Vaxevanidis I can sleep okay thanks. I’m on 5mg every other day. You okay ?
@@speedgarageuk thank you that you reply me. I used ativan for 2 months 2 mg before bed. I stop cold Turkey because I didn't have alternative choice. I am 45 days off.i feel ok only some nights I have insomnia. Do you know if it's going to get better?
Hi, my names Brittany and I was on Klonopin twice a day for about 7 months. I was prescribed this by my pediatric doctor when I was 16 for my anxiety. I've dealt with extremely bad anxiety/ social anxiety, since I was 12, and its really ruined my life. I've been off of Klonopin for a little over a year, and got off of it cold turkey. The withdrawl was really hard mentally, especially because I didn't even know that I was going through a withdrawl. My doctor never informed me about the dangers of this drug at all or what it would be like getting off of it. I'm about to graduate highschool and am going to attend college in the fall. I know leaving and going to college is going to be really hard for me, and I really feel like I can't go without being on Klonopin. Even though i've heard about how it'f ruined so many peoples lives, I still can't help but to want to get back on it, because of how good it worked. It seemed to improve my life so much and helped me lose a lot of weight, something I've struggled with for awhile. I REALLY REALLY don't know what to do. I feel like either way I go, I'm gonna miss out. If you could give some advice on what I should do, it would be SO appreciated!
Hi Brittany! Thanks for reaching out! Send me your email. I would love to share some of the stuff I did and what I do now to help me manage anxiety and panic.
JUST THANK YOU..I AM NOT ALONE
cold turkey off benzos is not wise, I think the only withdrawal from drugs that can kill u are alcohol, barbiturate and definitely benzos not even heroin. Long acting opiates like methadone withdrawal can be dangerous. I think there are probably a few more but u should look it up, I know i'm definitely right about benzos and really hard alcohol consumption withdrawal!
lol i didnt see your video, But dont do cold turkey. I did and had two grand mal seizures. The first one I had I stopped breathing, but my parents called the ambulance and they put oxygen tubes in my lungs. The second after I got discharged when I was sleeping. I fell off my bed and smashed a plastic fan. But I was up before my parents could call the ambulance. Luckily both times I wasnt doing anything dangerous like going down a flight of stairs. The whole time mentally I didn't want benzos, infact I was scared of them. But my body needed them. Also not to mention the flu you get with it.
So please just taper
how did you taper? cut and hold, liquid titration, scale method? at what rate?
Hi ndnd1717! I was on .025mg when I starting using a liquid titration system. I had previously chipped away at the dosage for several years before getting to this point ( I had been on 1mg in the morning for years). I finally got to a point where I just needed to go forward with the final leg of the journey ie the titration. I ordered a beaker off Amazon and got some 5ml syringes at CVS (they will give them to you for free). Small mason jars with covers are super helpful!!!! I set out to do it for 90 days...but I let myself (hold) when I needed to...so I'm pretty sure I did it for over 100 days. I kept a journal and made notes everyday even if it was just a few words of how I was feeling. It was not easy but I do strongly feel it was worth it! During the titration, I got really into a super clean diet being very mindful of MSG, sugar and caffeine. These days I still avoid caffeine and eat a diet with minimal sugar. Happy to say, I'm 4 years BENZO FREE! I'm pretty sure this is the video I used as inspiration for the liquid titration. I'll post it below. Just to be clear, I'm not a doctor or therapist/ nor are these recommendations. Yet, I do believe people need to do what they feel called to do for their own health utilizing the help and info. around them!
ua-cam.com/video/zz_AJIWGvtA/v-deo.html
thebenzofreeguru thank you for responding. i have tapering for over a year from a high dose and im currently in a long hold. ive watched that video many times. :) so you decided with water? i was planning on using milk for my titration as the benzos are fat soluble. my concerns with water is the adequate distribution through out just water. did you have issues with that? just have to pull quickly? im a member of bb and it has caused me much confusion and more fear unfortunately. im so glad to see someone happy and alive living life that made it through this! thank you!
7 yrs ago cold Turkey. Shoulda woulda coulda,done things different.I am alive though.
did it and nearly died. hell on earth. benzo and tramadol
How long did it take for u to heal?
Tramadol are evil...ive had three seizures because of them....im off them now
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Please any positive support of dosing back up I was only on .5-1 mg Ativan for 6 weeks This has been so bad My doc on Friday with the pharmacist decided I should go back up. I went down to .25 starting aug 23. The symptoms are crazy non tolerable I really feel like I can’t make it today starting that week I had pelvis and back pain crazy stomach pains to anxiety feeling I can’t take care of kids can’t eat can’t sleep stopped going to work then I was not wanting to drive or go to store I’m fallingappart headaches leg pain and jello legs hot and cold I can’t take care of my kids I went from a month ago working cooking cleaning running my kids around planning trips and eating and exercising last day was aug 6th. I want to cry I want to scream I don’t have support for 2 plus years I have bills including a home and two teenage boys in high school. I cried on Friday because I couldn’t go to my son football game. I never missed a game. They will loose there mother. I always put them first always :-\
vid is so blurry i felt like i was losing my vision.
I like her! Smart and honest.
But also has ADD big time
was just given a script for Klonopin! is anything good about t?
Tarina Kohlhorst no DO not take it
No..no..no..it's shit
it makes you like you need a mental ward
Unless it's absolutely unbearable to live without them, do not take them. Not even once.
My mother once gave me a powerful benzo when I was a child to calm me down. It felt good for a few hours. A couple of decades later, I'm still on them. It has completely ruined my memory, cognition, career, relationships and overall drive. Doctors prescribe them like candy. Do NOT underestimate its harmful effects. It only takes a few days to be chemically dependent, but a lifetime of suffering to get off them.
If I had known all of this beforehand, I'd never taken a single one. Please, don't ruin your mental health forever.
Best of luck to you, Tarina.
Tarina Kohlhorst
Dont do it
i think she would overdose on hot cup of lemon tea i like to know what she classed as drug habit that she came off and the withdrawls from it
I got thrown into a psychiatric hospital on day 3 of coming off valium Cold Turkey, I though I'd be fine doing it cold turkey, WRONG! Going from 100mg a day to nothing was stupid, gladly my doctor is now helping me taper off of them I cant wait tom leave this addiction behind me..
This is going to sound like a stupid question. You went cold turkey off benzos for two months... Shouldn't the withdrawal have been over with in two months ? I thought benzo withdrawal lasted about 45 days. I've been on diazepam since 1999 and want to come off.
Recovering from benzo dependence, I will tell you that 45 days is when your body just starts to produce the neurotransmitters that have been depleted from benzos. Out of rehab six weeks and STILL withdrawing from a 2 mg/day klonopin "addiction". It takes MONTHS, if not years to fully recover from benzos. Been on klonopin since 2002 and this withdrawal is the worst experience of my life. NEVER stop cold turkey. That can be deadly.
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Putin 4 4th4t88 Good comment Putin 4 ... very informative.
Aside from the first initial period of withdraw, which is called acute withdraw, there's a second period/stage of the withdraw process that comes afterwords called the "post acute withdraws" - where its not impacting you as greatly as the initial period but it still has some level of impact to some extent.
I'm today for over 2 years clean after coming off of a heavy alcohol addiction, benzos and alcohol both have a similar mechanism of action focusing on the gaba receptors of the brain. I can attest to what Heidi is saying that aside from physical symptoms of the withdraws, there's a much longer period going on completely psychologically/mentally which is your brain re-calibrating itself to the original chemical balance it used to have. I was in this grey zone for over 3 months. IMO if the objective is to stay completely clean, the initial withdraws are the easy part - I feel like in those first months after stoping usage you are still greatly in the grounds for a high chance of relapse.
In that period things just don't feel right and people often times experience a shift in their original mindset which was to stop using for good, once they're through the initial nightmare, and they find themselves finding all kinds of weird(in retrospect) justifications to start using/drinking again. Its generally still a very vulnerable period and because they're not directly feeling the negative impact that the habit used to have, they are much more inclined to pick it up again thinking that this time it will be different(or any other rationalization). I went through this process like 5 times. A lot of people just have to learn the hard way, but it is indeed a very tricky period.
Any vids on what's in
street Valium
bad withdraw fucked up.
I wonder why they use the term "cold turkey" ? I like eating cold turkey lol . BZ withdrawal is more like eating something that : causes muscle spasms so bad they become muscle tears ; you become exhausted from pacing around and when you fall asleep you get more painful muscle tears ; drives you insane ; fucks up your depth perception and rooms look like they are compacting you ; continued .... bz detox causes seizures that at worst make you into a vegetable in bed and in pain who can't move ; and the least is the seizure will kill you and you are released from the hell ; etcetera ad infinitum.....
after 12 yrs 4 milg daily I had to stay in the hospital 30 days just to get clean from benzos. 10 yrs now since then. It was NOT easy.
How do you feel now ?? And after how much time did you took to recover ??
I still want to take them But I allow myself that feeling and then I think of something else. I gets easier but you really have to change the way you think. Change your life.
I took xanax 0.5 for two years but in that time last six months switched to 0.25 mg and then cut the pill into half. And after some time i was on a quarter of that pill it was 0.06 mg then i stopped taking it .. its been two months i am clean . I am feeling much better now but sometimes it feels thats never gonna end insomnia and restlessness are on peak at night.. i am loosing hope this way!!
I know thats not easy .. its a hell Withdrawls .. i pray for all of us suffering from this ..
I wonder if i can get back to normal or not !!
thank you for this
great ;) I was on benzo's for about 16 yrs , came off a few times , this time its 19 months , I still feel like a cripple somtimes but its better than it was ...check my channel
your videos suck
Hold up, you're off the meds?
I'm considering taking them. I kept telling the doctors I would never try them,but I have no life anymore and bed ridden.
Would love some pointers. I can't even stand or walk.
You're only to take them for 2 weeks max, otherwise they end up making everything worse
How? I'm drinking a lot of alcohol and then taking Xanax the next day. I've heard they're bad to mix, but sometimes I get it bad even when I'm drinking. I try to cut down the drinking, but when the panic attacks come I drink or take a little bit of Xanax.
I haven't been taking Xanax regularly. The doctor wants me to take 2mg 2x a day. I've only been taking about 1/8 2x a day, but still suffer with major anxiety/panic and not sure if I should take more.
You said not to take it more than 2 weeks, but this is chronic for me.
@@tim5510 , get off the alcohol. That's your problem !
Feels more like an uncontrolled substance😢
I do NOT give people that quit cold turkey "huge huge props". Its reckless and dangerous and could be fatal, cause seizures and/or a coma.
Plz help me
Amma sooo scared am taking 4mg xanax a day.
Can u have withdrawals from just taking a few pills (3 and a half..Klonopin 0.5mg)?
+John Jones no
YES!
***** I knew it. Worst thing I could have done was taking these damn pills. My axiety right now is terrible.
John Jones I'm sorry. So is mine.
John Jones I would'nt advise you withdrawing without the help of a doctor and tapering very slowly. Don't let the doctor tell you how fast to do it, it's up to you and what's comfortable. I'm going thru it right now and it's no fun. Heart racing, anxiety, paranoia, it's hell. but I'm going to try my hardest to rid myself of this shit.
Does anyone know if you can use alcohol to taper from benzos. I'm not saying replace benzos for alcohol, but if you find yourself in a situation where ur heavily addicted and you can't get any benzos, can small amounts of alcohol help with benzo withdrawal symptoms?
Cameron H
I don’t know but it seems to help me a bit and I hate to say so because I have been eight years sober but I have been on 8 mg of Xanax and 8 mg of Klonopin per day for 15 years from the symptoms of traumatic brain injury but I moved to New York state, USA and the doctors here did not understand and simply stopped the prescription three days ago and I do kind of feel like shit but I have been doing lots of cool things to help. One thing I must do is forget all this hype about how hard it is to stop cold turkey because I’m wickedly doing so by force by the evil doctors here in this crazy state. Good luck with your experience and remember- think positively and be grateful, loving and compassionate.
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Please any positive support of dosing back up I was only on .5-1 mg Ativan for 6 weeks This has been so bad My doc on Friday with the pharmacist decided I should go back up. I went down to .25 starting aug 23. The symptoms are crazy non tolerable I really feel like I can’t make it today starting that week I had pelvis and back pain crazy stomach pains to anxiety feeling I can’t take care of kids can’t eat can’t sleep stopped going to work then I was not wanting to drive or go to store I’m fallingappart headaches leg pain and jello legs hot and cold I can’t take care of my kids I went from a month ago working cooking cleaning running my kids around planning trips and eating and exercising last day was aug 6th. I want to cry I want to scream I don’t have support for 2 plus years I have bills including a home and two teenage boys in high school. I cried on Friday because I couldn’t go to my son football game. I never missed a game. They will loose there mother. I always put them first always :-\
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All you need is some good weed indica eat works not side effects done it many times . Nothing at all I dont know what everybody is talking about problem not with good weed
A good friend is adieu tee to benzos, sleeping pills, alcohol.
I like benzodiazepine.does anyone know where I can get it cuz iam really sick. Life is really hard for me. I have almost no happiness or social life at all.
gaba makes it worde because your jumping up your gaba levels you need to lower em if you have anxiety that is the stupidity of the doctors aka we are lab rats.
Its been 9 yrs! Are u still alive?
I could make you feel better.
Us Addicts are the worst arn't we.
Sanki supplements can help you kick this nasty habit. I did it!!!and i feel great! go to "Feel Good With Sanki"
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Lmfao gabapentin more like pregabalin is easier