Death's Due is absolutely broken for Blood DK. Since "Crimson Scourge (Passive)" resets the CD on it constantly, you can have 100% uptime on any target around you. So 15% reduced damage delt to you and 15% more damage delt by you, which is extra healing on a couple of abilities.
It’s so weird that monks got a gorgeous, unique spell and druids got ... what they got. They could have received a CD transforming you into a super charged reskin of your current form (eg a massive Night Fae Tree of D00M) with extra abilities. I mean.. anything but multi-thrash. Seems so lazy for a Class who thematically belongs to the Night Fae. Even DKs got a visually interesting spell which is mind boggling from a thematic perspective. Compared to Paladin ability in Kyrian. So frustrating
SV hunter in night fay flavor is pretty amazing and tuning conduits to it is an amazing boost. Fairly technical to use wild spirits effectively; but doesn't affect my macro build since it has no covenant abilities in it. The rest is manual transmission classic for me other than find and engage. In arenas I can use this to spot the first player close to death to kill them off and move after the next weekling till I am left with the strongest of them to corner and not be bothered by the others when dealing the coordinated kill command & tip of the spear to finish them off.
Some of these are wonderful, creative, high-skillcap high potential abilities with wonderful animations, some are boring rehashes of existing abilities with no fancy animation, modern day triple A gaming,
We really need to split the skill book, have one for pvp and one for pve where the abilities are mostly the same but may have minor differences, a slow instead of a stun, longer CD etc. They have already half assed doing this with some skills but it needs to be done across the board and made official so they can balanced each individually, I am sick of fun pve builds being nerfed into the ground due to pvp and vice versa and with covenant abilities we are going to see a never ending issues as they try to balance the two simultaneously
I like the idea, and you make some good points, but the one drawback I see upfront is that this would literally double the workload of development balancing and also double what the player needs to know about their class and how their spec operates based on pvp or pve. Essentially this would be taking 36 specs to 72 as each would play two ways and require two schools of knowledge. I also seriously dislike how builds get nuked when they cross into an unintended op mode. Personally, I would rather see entirely new spells added specifically and only for rated pvp use, and an increase in the number of pvp spells both available and usable in the current war mode, like say, going from the current 3 to 6 with 2 locked in as passive (or something like that etc.).
@@xpCarlo36 they already have a team dedicated to pvp balancing, they post on the forums frequently, all this would do would unshackle them for worrying about their effects on pve. It also wouldn't drastically change the spec like you seem to be implying, it wont suddenly turn a ret pally into a ranged class, it would just do minor changes for balancing, GW2 manages to do it just fine without confusing their players . As I said, there are skills already in the game that have this, many trinkets or passive effects are less effective in pvp so its already, this would just make it official and let players check to see those differences rather than it being all hidden like it is at the moment
Night fae is proving to be amazing and very useful. Necrolord hunter really got me pretty powerful in combat. I needed the night fae lore tough so I had to go to the shadowlands Tilderssil.
I have to say--the night fae abilities have the best visuals of the four covenants. There are a few abilities (like aoe avenger's shield) that I would still take, but night fae is my choice for any character it's viable on. Also, I feel like they need to make the covenants that are a match thematically to each class have the (slightly) better or cooler looking covenant abilities. I'm fine with mixing and matching if that's what people want to do, but I think it would make a ton more sense from a lore perspective. For example, The night fae druid ability should be stronger or better looking, same with the bastion paladin ability, the venthyr warlock ability, the necrolord DK ability, and so on. This is a little less clear for some classes, but still.
I agree. It's ironic that certain classes that would fit certain covenants for lore reasons get a shittier covenant ability, unless they choose another covenant. The Kyrian paladin and Venthyr warlock abilities are fine in my opinion, but I agree about the Night Fae druid and the Necrolord DK abilities. They should either get buffed or get a visual upgrade, or maybe both in some cases. The same goes for the Kyrian monk and Venthyr rogue. But since I'm only in it for the story anyway, and competitive gameplay was never my thing, I'll just pick the covenant based on character lore. If the covenant ability is powerful and looks cool: Awesome! If the covenant ability is weak and looks meh: Whatever.
There's a very important aspect of the warrior ability that you did not mention- is it six rage per target hit every two seconds? Or just a flat six? Because that changes everything.
I'm stuck between shifting power and radiant spark for arcane. Radiant spark seems to be a really good single target DPS spell, but shifting power seems to allow much more flexibility in how the class plays and worth it for the CDR alone, especially if it works on both acrane power AND evocation. It also breaks the monotony of just spamming arcane explosion for aoe. The priest's ability seems like it'll be insane for M+. That sheer amount of resource/CDR is going to bust some things for sure.
@@Lynce222 I honestly wish we could have the fox instead of our feral cat form. I have the feral mage tower challenge appearance but I'd prefer the fox.
tbh, I am actually exited abotu the warrior one, you can line it up perfectly with recklessness and sigebreaker, just after getting enraged, this will have a massive crit chance, generate more rage and deals massive additional damage
Granted, we don't have complete information, but I have an odd hunch that Night Fae Death Knight could be surprisingly strong. They could use some help with mobility sometimes, so maybe Soulshape is actually better for them than other classes. Granted, I'm a fan of Ghost Wolf as a Shaman. Death's Due (I'd rather call it "Death Dew" lol) looks like it's just a marginal improvement to DK's already strong AOE... until you account for the AOE cap. Death & Decay is not getting capped. So Unholy loses nothing on this count, unless the tuning of the numbers is worse. Frost actually gains because it couldn't use Death & Decay before; Frostscythe got capped, but it's a talent so it's optional anyway. The "soulbinds" actually sound really good, at the very least for Blood teamed with melee DPS, or if your healers were struggling with spikes in your damage taken. I can see a possible build: stack some Haste, get a good two-hander and the "Phearomones" legendary ability, spec Blood for survivable progression tanking and Unholy for (still) strong AOE DPS. Maybe Frost could be really strong in PVP with all that extra mobility and CC but I don't know PVP very well. I'm not saying it's better than Venthyr or Necrolord, I just think it's worth a look.
I'm so displeased by the Druid one. For a covenant literally themed after them, to only have a shitty blur around you and a spamfest of normal abilities instead of some visually appealing Starfall or a Wild Mushroom-like explosion is more than disappointing. In fact, it can be a Starfall of Night-Fae Moonfires that leave a DoT on the targets... mobs like Shandris already use something similar in Prayer of the Moon Goddess and Lunar Shower.
Did anyone ever play (shadow)priest to top the dps charts? That covenant ability is probably gonna make them highly sought after, that in itself should feel pretty good I believe, imagine if that shit stacks with multiple shadowpriests, it might actually turn out op, no?
If you mean from the same paladin, no it'll replacing an existing one if you use the next one before the 1 min duration. Not sure about multiple paladins running the same or different blessing of season effects.
@@alancode2147 Thats the question: Stacking 10% + CDR reduction from several paladins + a few shadows in the raid and you can boost DPS to an abnormal level. These more support focus are often overlooked from the "normal" player, but abused endlessly from other guilds.
Great vids and good job covering all the news but just 1 thing. Soul shape and the venthir teleport are being seen as too powerful because of their utility in raids. As a mythic raider myself I would entirely agree.I think you are wrong about how powerful soul shape is.
If at least it would count in the combo. Because currently it's pretty but the extra resource it spawns is difficult to use. Also because of this extra resource every 30 sec or more often, haste will lose its value so the gameplay can be slower. I hope this ability will be viable though, I don't like the venthyr or necrolord theme. I could settle with kyrian is I have to but I would prefer night fae.
Eh? I think that's backwards. The Fae Infusion for shaman looks awful because it requires 8 targets for maximum effectiveness. How often will you have 8 targets grouped up for the full channel versus how often you'd have a single target.
Fae Transfusion is just like Earthly Star. It's not the "top" pick for Restro Shaman, but I can have an AST Ogcd on my Restro Shaman? Hell yeah.The tool tip says it will damage up to four enemies, and heal up to 8, but people are saying it stinks on bosses, because it's single target. Do more mobs make the heal and dmg more powerful? Has anyone tested this?
im actually sad. Why am i having to pick between my aesthetic or my dps being good? sad. face. both abilities are basically useless for druids. we dont need more movement speed, and that class ability is just bad. fml
Saying night fae druid is the weakest covenant..... Lmao are you high? That shit is so strong. One of if not THE strongest ability. Pretty far from weakest. I cant take anything you say seriously anymore
omg this is a cooperativ game this feels bad to push a button help other ! Seriusly what is that mentality ? trying to be first in the damage meter can be fun but it s not the main goal of the game way too many ppl act and talk like this is. Stop spreading that message. thanks you
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Death's Due is absolutely broken for Blood DK.
Since "Crimson Scourge (Passive)" resets the CD on it constantly, you can have 100% uptime on any target around you.
So 15% reduced damage delt to you
and 15% more damage delt by you, which is extra healing on a couple of abilities.
Can u do buffs and nerfs in shadowlands classses video :)?
I'd say the warrior one, it lines up perfectly with all major cooldowns for fury
It’s so weird that monks got a gorgeous, unique spell and druids got ... what they got. They could have received a CD transforming you into a super charged reskin of your current form (eg a massive Night Fae Tree of D00M) with extra abilities. I mean.. anything but multi-thrash. Seems so lazy for a Class who thematically belongs to the Night Fae. Even DKs got a visually interesting spell which is mind boggling from a thematic perspective. Compared to Paladin ability in Kyrian. So frustrating
Hey, monks have been screwd enough. Having shiny spell for one expansion is far from making up for it.
Similarly, they could just copy over, re-skin, and tweak the Metamorphosis ability and even that would make more sense and probably work better.
Did Kelani just suggest that a MS ability that also gives you blinks doesnt have raid application? *Extreme Visible Confusion*
I know right, I was like as a shaman player my Ghost Wolf ability is useful in all that content, and I can't blink with it, so...wtf?
@@wyattskinner5812 It's not permanent dude.
Convoke the Spirits should be : Just Die Already of the Wild.
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THEY ALWAYS GIVE US DRUIDS THE COOLEST MOST USELESS MOVES!
YAY I CAN TURN INTO 5 CREATURES THAT ARE SLIGHTLY WORSE THAN ALL OF THEIR COUNTERPARTS FFS
SV hunter in night fay flavor is pretty amazing and tuning conduits to it is an amazing boost. Fairly technical to use wild spirits effectively; but doesn't affect my macro build since it has no covenant abilities in it. The rest is manual transmission classic for me other than find and engage. In arenas I can use this to spot the first player close to death to kill them off and move after the next weekling till I am left with the strongest of them to corner and not be bothered by the others when dealing the coordinated kill command & tip of the spear to finish them off.
I need to catch up on the other covenants hunter abilities. I'm gonna be sifting through your library thanks for putting it out.
Some of these are wonderful, creative, high-skillcap high potential abilities with wonderful animations, some are boring rehashes of existing abilities with no fancy animation,
modern day triple A gaming,
Soul shape has been a life saver during some mechanical elements in m0!
We really need to split the skill book, have one for pvp and one for pve where the abilities are mostly the same but may have minor differences, a slow instead of a stun, longer CD etc. They have already half assed doing this with some skills but it needs to be done across the board and made official so they can balanced each individually, I am sick of fun pve builds being nerfed into the ground due to pvp and vice versa and with covenant abilities we are going to see a never ending issues as they try to balance the two simultaneously
I like the idea, and you make some good points, but the one drawback I see upfront is that this would literally double the workload of development balancing and also double what the player needs to know about their class and how their spec operates based on pvp or pve. Essentially this would be taking 36 specs to 72 as each would play two ways and require two schools of knowledge.
I also seriously dislike how builds get nuked when they cross into an unintended op mode. Personally, I would rather see entirely new spells added specifically and only for rated pvp use, and an increase in the number of pvp spells both available and usable in the current war mode, like say, going from the current 3 to 6 with 2 locked in as passive (or something like that etc.).
@@xpCarlo36 they already have a team dedicated to pvp balancing, they post on the forums frequently, all this would do would unshackle them for worrying about their effects on pve. It also wouldn't drastically change the spec like you seem to be implying, it wont suddenly turn a ret pally into a ranged class, it would just do minor changes for balancing, GW2 manages to do it just fine without confusing their players .
As I said, there are skills already in the game that have this, many trinkets or passive effects are less effective in pvp so its already, this would just make it official and let players check to see those differences rather than it being all hidden like it is at the moment
I'm sad now, I wanted to chose it because of my druid.
Night fae is proving to be amazing and very useful. Necrolord hunter really got me pretty powerful in combat. I needed the night fae lore tough so I had to go to the shadowlands Tilderssil.
I have to say--the night fae abilities have the best visuals of the four covenants. There are a few abilities (like aoe avenger's shield) that I would still take, but night fae is my choice for any character it's viable on.
Also, I feel like they need to make the covenants that are a match thematically to each class have the (slightly) better or cooler looking covenant abilities. I'm fine with mixing and matching if that's what people want to do, but I think it would make a ton more sense from a lore perspective. For example, The night fae druid ability should be stronger or better looking, same with the bastion paladin ability, the venthyr warlock ability, the necrolord DK ability, and so on. This is a little less clear for some classes, but still.
I agree. It's ironic that certain classes that would fit certain covenants for lore reasons get a shittier covenant ability, unless they choose another covenant. The Kyrian paladin and Venthyr warlock abilities are fine in my opinion, but I agree about the Night Fae druid and the Necrolord DK abilities. They should either get buffed or get a visual upgrade, or maybe both in some cases. The same goes for the Kyrian monk and Venthyr rogue.
But since I'm only in it for the story anyway, and competitive gameplay was never my thing, I'll just pick the covenant based on character lore. If the covenant ability is powerful and looks cool: Awesome! If the covenant ability is weak and looks meh: Whatever.
There's a very important aspect of the warrior ability that you did not mention- is it six rage per target hit every two seconds? Or just a flat six? Because that changes everything.
6 rage per tick, per enemy
it's amazing, even in single target
I'm stuck between shifting power and radiant spark for arcane. Radiant spark seems to be a really good single target DPS spell, but shifting power seems to allow much more flexibility in how the class plays and worth it for the CDR alone, especially if it works on both acrane power AND evocation. It also breaks the monotony of just spamming arcane explosion for aoe.
The priest's ability seems like it'll be insane for M+. That sheer amount of resource/CDR is going to bust some things for sure.
Petition to make sure soul shape is off the gcd so it feels good and isn't completely useless for Druids
Yes :(
It is super weird that they made it completely useless for druids when most druids will want Night Fae for aesthetics.
@@CallMeNoa the druids dont have too much love in general :/
@@Lynce222 I honestly wish we could have the fox instead of our feral cat form. I have the feral mage tower challenge appearance but I'd prefer the fox.
Gcd?
Might the "Fae Line Stomp" ability be good for the "Fist Weaving" builds as well? If you're healing a tank and melee, I guess.
How did Paladins get the Druids ability???
tbh, I am actually exited abotu the warrior one,
you can line it up perfectly with recklessness and sigebreaker, just after getting enraged, this will have a massive crit chance, generate more rage and deals massive additional damage
I'm actually really liking the shaman ability. I main Ele and off heal for raids, so yeah. Looks good
How does death's due work with defile? Since they both replace death and decay does that just make defile useless? Or does it combine them?
the druid ability will be quite interesting when there are no enemies in an intermission, as it will guarantee 16 healing spells
with the vanish soulbind the night fae soulshape suddenly becomes insanely good
SignsOfKelani have you did any of the new hunter pets that can be tamed ?.. over 15 years i been playing the game but never gotten a beta invite ...
Granted, we don't have complete information, but I have an odd hunch that Night Fae Death Knight could be surprisingly strong. They could use some help with mobility sometimes, so maybe Soulshape is actually better for them than other classes. Granted, I'm a fan of Ghost Wolf as a Shaman. Death's Due (I'd rather call it "Death Dew" lol) looks like it's just a marginal improvement to DK's already strong AOE... until you account for the AOE cap. Death & Decay is not getting capped. So Unholy loses nothing on this count, unless the tuning of the numbers is worse. Frost actually gains because it couldn't use Death & Decay before; Frostscythe got capped, but it's a talent so it's optional anyway.
The "soulbinds" actually sound really good, at the very least for Blood teamed with melee DPS, or if your healers were struggling with spikes in your damage taken.
I can see a possible build: stack some Haste, get a good two-hander and the "Phearomones" legendary ability, spec Blood for survivable progression tanking and Unholy for (still) strong AOE DPS.
Maybe Frost could be really strong in PVP with all that extra mobility and CC but I don't know PVP very well.
I'm not saying it's better than Venthyr or Necrolord, I just think it's worth a look.
I'm so displeased by the Druid one. For a covenant literally themed after them, to only have a shitty blur around you and a spamfest of normal abilities instead of some visually appealing Starfall or a Wild Mushroom-like explosion is more than disappointing.
In fact, it can be a Starfall of Night-Fae Moonfires that leave a DoT on the targets... mobs like Shandris already use something similar in Prayer of the Moon Goddess and Lunar Shower.
Did anyone ever play (shadow)priest to top the dps charts? That covenant ability is probably gonna make them highly sought after, that in itself should feel pretty good I believe, imagine if that shit stacks with multiple shadowpriests, it might actually turn out op, no?
Tbh I think the aff lock ability will be hidden op due to the talent that stacks a damage buff on drain life for a super pumped AOE drain :)
hey keani this is folks
Great vid
Noo demon hunters can't be that mobile! DHs: hahaha the hunt go brrrrr
Does the paladin auras stack?
If you mean from the same paladin, no it'll replacing an existing one if you use the next one before the 1 min duration. Not sure about multiple paladins running the same or different blessing of season effects.
@@alancode2147 Thats the question: Stacking 10% + CDR reduction from several paladins + a few shadows in the raid and you can boost DPS to an abnormal level.
These more support focus are often overlooked from the "normal" player, but abused endlessly from other guilds.
Great vids and good job covering all the news but just 1 thing. Soul shape and the venthir teleport are being seen as too powerful because of their utility in raids. As a mythic raider myself I would entirely agree.I think you are wrong about how powerful soul shape is.
especially with the soulbinds that can change it,.. the vanish one for M+ and the "spread" movement speed for allies in raids
I’m a ret pally, there’s no “i” in team
I feel like the paladin one was made for a druid lol.
why do you always write in say-chat ingame
WW monks ability only does 60% damage, is it even worth pressing over other abilitys?
If at least it would count in the combo. Because currently it's pretty but the extra resource it spawns is difficult to use. Also because of this extra resource every 30 sec or more often, haste will lose its value so the gameplay can be slower. I hope this ability will be viable though, I don't like the venthyr or necrolord theme. I could settle with kyrian is I have to but I would prefer night fae.
so for enhancment shaman fae ability is garbage(because of the channeling) so that's a cross
Am i the only one that does not like borrowed power at all?
Bruh how the fuck does this work for enhance shamans that’s such a halt in your rotation
Why is it always OK if an ability is good in AoE but useless in single target but if a skill is OP in single target and useless in AoE it's bad?!
Because pve group conent. Ya its lame af.
Eh? I think that's backwards. The Fae Infusion for shaman looks awful because it requires 8 targets for maximum effectiveness. How often will you have 8 targets grouped up for the full channel versus how often you'd have a single target.
the shadow priest has always be around to help other players....
Im so pissed man imagine being a dps with the sole purpose of making yourself lowest in the meters while helping others reach the top dps
That paladin ability makes things a little interesting. Reminds me of Astrologian from FFXIV
yeah, it does actually!
Fae Transfusion is just like Earthly Star. It's not the "top" pick for Restro Shaman, but I can have an AST Ogcd on my Restro Shaman? Hell yeah.The tool tip says it will damage up to four enemies, and heal up to 8, but people are saying it stinks on bosses, because it's single target. Do more mobs make the heal and dmg more powerful? Has anyone tested this?
im actually sad. Why am i having to pick between my aesthetic or my dps being good? sad. face. both abilities are basically useless for druids. we dont need more movement speed, and that class ability is just bad. fml
yup, my point exactly. i thought i was for sure going to go night fae with my druid but now i honestly don't know.
2nd! Yay! I love all your videos and they help me stay up to date with everthing thats going on!
did he just say that a movement ability in a raid/dungeon is not that good? lol
Ofc demon hunter gets a op dps mobility abilities jesus
most of night fae spells suck actually :( i hope they'll get fixed because i was planning to go for that covenant
warior one is amazing
So warriors ability is basically Odys Fury
but it also lines up with recklessness at 90seconds CD
So they gave dh even more mobility biggest dmg boost great still world of demon hunters
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lol all classes get cool abilityes and Ret gets that shit, gonna feel so nice cylcing that in arena
Paladins got kinda shafted here :(
Why does the hunter skill make no sense
Covenant will be a huge problem on Shadowlands ....
Hope they Deactivate
Covenant abilities in pvp
I tough that too back in time. lmao
Lol goes shadow priest to rouge. Yup that alphabetical order
'P' for 'Priest'. 'R' for 'Rogue'. Your mom told you that you were "special" growing up. Didn't she?
Saying night fae druid is the weakest covenant..... Lmao are you high? That shit is so strong. One of if not THE strongest ability. Pretty far from weakest. I cant take anything you say seriously anymore
we need good class designs not bullshits like those
crap abilitys
omg this is a cooperativ game this feels bad to push a button help other ! Seriusly what is that mentality ? trying to be first in the damage meter can be fun but it s not the main goal of the game way too many ppl act and talk like this is. Stop spreading that message. thanks you