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It's difficult to put into words the impact this had on Merseyside. I'm an Everton supporter and Liverpool FC has always been our greatest rival. This rivalry meant nothing in the light of this tragedy. We were united, and both sides still boycott 'The Sun' newspaper because of its shocking and biased reporting of the incident.
Yes, it was heartening the way the two teams' supporters came together. It cut to the heart of the entire city. 'The Scum' is not sold by the majority of newsagents there and many people wouldn't buy it anyway. The 'apology' issued by McKenzie later was too little, too late and he has since rescinded it. Despicable, repugnant little man.
I wasn't a football fan (I had been, I supported and went to the home games of Leeds United), but I was horrified at the tragedy. And I never believed the lies and spin that surrounded it afterward.
The families and survivors fought a long, hard battle. They finally got the 'unlawfully killed' verdict and the ridiculous inquest findings overturned, but no one has been held to account. It's utterly disgusting. JFT97
It’s utterly appalling what The Scum did. I have a Scouse Girlfriend who always reminds me The Suns actions will never be forgotten. From what I heard, The Sun victim blamed AGAIN when the Marchioness sunk the same year, killing lots of very young people :/
@@Landie_Man The Scum blames everyone except those who are guilty.
@@Landie_Man I didn't see that. But then, I have never in my life read that rag, nor had it in the house. Unfortunately, it doesn't surprise me. It's an appalling excuse for a paper
The support we got from the blue half of Liverpool will never be forgotten. I was 17 when it happened & can still remember so clearly how the city felt in the aftermath. When we & my mates went to lay flowers at the Kop there were any number of Evertonians waiting in the queue with us. We lay our flowers alongside Everton scarves. Like you said, the rivalry between our clubs is ingrained in us, but Hillsborough transcended any & all of that. Thank you for standing alongside us at the most horrendous chapter in our clubs history ❤️💙
You only have to mention - Hillsborough - and everybody knows what you mean .
As a Sheffield resident and life long Owls fan, this depresses me deeply.
I remember watching this as it happened. At first the commentator thought there was just some sort of scuffle and the coverage of the arrival of people and the preparation for the game continued. Gradually they realised it was more serious and it was horrific to think we had been witnessing people being crushed.
@@annedunne4526 it is still so profoundly disturbing and shocking and upsetting seeing the footage and images today. Deeply emotionally disturbing. No wonder I have some vague recollections despite being pre-school age at the time, those are the kinds of images that burn into your brain.
indeed,, people ALL over the UK feel it . I'm in Scotland. Remember when that happened.. 💔
@@theinvisibleneonrainbowzeb2567 I'm irish and never had any interest in football but that day I was having lunch with my parents and my father was watching the match so I did too. The dawning realisation of the horror that was unfolding has stayed with me and always will. X
In my opinion: A catastrophic failure by South Yorkshire Police, mismanagement, incompetence and worse still a lack of accountability after the incident...
I agree, along with Thatcher covering it up.
@@apjhdee Not everything was her fault... Why would she even be involved in what was after all a local regional matter, and why cover it, who was she protecting, you think she cared about South Yorkshire Police?
@@daveofyorkshire301 It's widely known about a handwritten memo written by Thatcher. That she wanted the blame deflected from the police force.
@@apjhdee "Widely known" is not necessarily true or accurate... Just because some people believe it doesn't make it true, if it exists, where is it?
Plus "hand written" by the Primeminister at the time - really? To whom?
@@daveofyorkshire301 Oh mate do your own homework, I'm not handing it on a plate for you!
It's 97 deaths now. Another victim died last year. Andrew Devine died 32 years after suffering injuries incurred at Hillsborough. The coroner declared he'd died as a direct result of the disaster.
I am guessing he have been in some kind of coma since the incident and now passed away? Or maybe severe brain injury from lack of oxygen that somehow contributed to his death 32 years later?
@@kingwacky184 Andrew Devine, who died 32 years after suffering severe and irreversible brain damage on the day, was the 97th victim.
God damn
I work with a survivor, his name is Lee who watched his friend, Carl Brown fall into the crowd and then never saw him again. Lee suffers terribly with PTSD and his story is horrific, he was resuscitated at the scene and feels he is one of the lucky survrivors. The treatment of those fans by the police after the event was horrifying and they should never forgive the police.
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This was due to very bad policing.
The cops tried blaming the fans when after years of fighting by the families who lost loved ones fought for justice and eventually the cops were held to account.
They can blame the Police as much as they want, but it won't change the fact that it was the fans fault.
If 100's of fans didn't turn up without tickets, there would never have been a crush in the first place.
@@danielgardecki1046 the police was proved guilty thay opened the side gate that let the fans in . It was stated in the video.
@@danielgardecki1046 It's such a shame so many people are still fooled by the lies spread by the police, I put a link to the final report, try reading it.
It's simply not true that lots of people turned up without tickets. That has been conclusively by numerous enquiries and is a simple lie put about by the Police and the likes of the Sun
There is being held accountable and there is scapegoating I feel at the last trial at least one of the persons on trial was a scapegoat.
This is still a very raw event in the UK. So tragic
And The Sun Newspaper is still not sold in Liverpool to this day due to printing lies about the fans.
they didn't merely print lies, they attacked the fans, portrayed the dead as scum.
@@jonnylumberjack6223 absolutely and I cannot believe that they’re still allowed to do this to this day, the sun newspaper should have gone out of business or something should have happened to them so that they cannot get away with this but they still are even to this day.
@@tanyacampbell29 Well, the Daily Mail supported Hitler and they're still going too, in much the same vein. While people are willing to pay for them, they will exist.
Someone commented about the affect on the people of Meerseyside. No one seems to mention the trauma that thousands of Forest fans suffered on that day. I was in Dublin at the horse racing and was really p d off that I had to stay the weekend cos of work. I watched the whole thing as it happened on TV. My brother and some work colleagues were there and they needed counselling because the bodies on the hoardings were taken to the other end of the pitch nearer to the Forest fans. We at Forest felt the pain of the Liverpool supporters and even though rivals we are all fans. Forest is my team and always will be but to my fellow fans in Liverpool I say " We also will remember the 96 and may they rest in peace". They will never walk alone.
97 now
As dj gaz says 97 now
I only wish the rest of the footballing world could get it like hopefully the forest fans will - and yeah 97 now sadly… Andy Devine was a different person immediately and died in his 50s because of this. I can’t understand how some fans still shout about it like it’s a bit of fun. Nearly 100 dead…? It’s not funny. Hope Notts come up again tbh! Good luck to you
what a lovely comment xx
Still disgusting that Duckenfield was found not guilty for gross negligence manslaughter.
But at least the public know he caused those deaths.
Also disgusting that retired senior police offices can give one account in a court of law (the coroner's court) and then walk into another court (Crown) and tell a totally different story. If it was anyone else they would be held in contempt or prosecuted for perjury or attempting to pevert the course of justice.
I remember finishing work the day of this semi final and on the way home met a mate, I asked him how Liverpool got on and he said it had been cancelled. I asked him why, he said there had been some crowd trouble but didn't know any details. When I got home I watched the news and they showed the people being crushed and suffocated, vids that to this day should never have been shown on TV. This was the 80's afterall, I was horrified at what I'd watched. Later that night I watched Match of the Day and yet again they showed the same horrific vids of the tragedy, it was disturbing to see people actually dieing on screen in front of my face. Those images will always stay with me.
I've supported Liverpool since I was 7 and I'm now 53. This was not only the worst day in football history but the worst day of my life.
RIP 97.
YNWA
Truly awful day x SWFC fan ❤
I watched from Belfast but would disagree with you about showing them. I think the world needed to see what had happened. The cover up was bad enough after the fact, but most sensible people saw what happened.
Just my opinion, not trying to be a dick.
JFT97 - YNWA
Thank you for reacting to this. This was such a painful time for my city.
I still get upset about it mate
I still get upset from it to I was 15 at the time and from london the whole country was deeply sadden by it what those por families went though and anyone that ain't seen it should a programme called Annie and a mother's fight and other families to get justice for the ones they lost
Why are you thanking him? He's basically making a living out of "reacting" to disasters. I truly doubt he gives a shit. He's living off other people's misery instead of getting a real job.
That was the most heartbreaking day in football history. I was at a game in London and thousands of fans stayed in our stadium listening to the radio being played on loudspeaker
You've forgot the Bradford City fire.
@@dannycarter1966 I didn’t forget it, I just didn’t think it was as devastating as 96 people unlawfully killed by the police
That and the Bradford fire, that was horrific too.
@@dannycarter1966 how can you even compare them
@@gailknight3128 was bad yes but the hillsborough was so much worse
I am a Nottingham Forest supporter and I was present at Hillsborough on the day that this happened. It still lives with me to this day and sometimes I still get desperately depressed about it. Being a witness to this sort of tragic event leaves you with scars that you never ever get rid of. It has made the games between the two teams very special and although of course the Liverpool supporters were the ones affected, everyone who was in the ground that day lives in the shadow of it. I was 29 when this happened, I am now 62 years old and I still cannot talk about it without crying.
It still makes me cry when I watch these reports. A tragedy beyond a tragedy
I'd definitely recommend watching the survivors story. The whole thing is still heartbreaking today! We covered it partly in our Law degree, we couldn't cover it all because so many of us were just devastated. We had warnings about the pictures too as many of the people in the pictures were already crushed to death. As a Forest fan, I'll never ever forget this disaster and the fact that justice still hasn't been done for the 96 and probably never will be!!
That tunnel in the Leppings lane was fucking horrible, accident waiting to happen. RIP the 96
I was 15 when this happened and it still brings me to tears when I see the images. It's one of those days like 9/11 that once witnessed, live with you for the rest of your life. To all Liverpool fans and the families and friends of the victims, YNWA. This LUFC fan and all football fans walk beside you.
Well said.. I to was 15 and remember it very well still saddens me to this day x
Have a watch of 'Hillsborough' the 1996 film, not for a reaction but to see what the families went through afterwards. As if almost 100 people being killed wasn't enough the establishment closed ranks and caused so much hurt.
That new show airing on ITV now, "Anne", is also an excellent watch and covers the whole justice campaign. The 1996 one is excellent, but out of date now.
@@justhannah3960 I watched the final part last night, still tearful today. Fingers' crossed for the 'Hillsborough law'
The long-term situation in the 1970s and 1980s (before the disaster) was that English football matches were plagued by widespread and frequent fighting and hooliganism. The attitude of the authorities in the 1980s was to crack down on it by making it illegal to invade the pitch (which is what fans had often done before) and build barriers to pen them in to stop them invading the pitch. In other words, the "solution" was to pen them in as if they were wild animals needing to be controlled. The prevailing attitude of many police officers at the time would therefore have been to think that the fans were "rioting", drunk, wanting to cause trouble, and wanting to "invade" the pitch. That is why it took so long before they realised how serious it was. (Police Commander Duckenfield was eventually prosecuted for manslaughter, but was found not guilty).
The long-term situation after the disaster was that there was a lot of cover-up: police and politicians blamed fans for barging in and causing the crush; the coroner only investigated part of the events because he assumed that all the victims had died before 3:15. It was later obvious that a lot of serious and significant things happened after 3:15. Some of the media accused Liverpool fans of stealing from the dead, urinating on dead bodies, and other nonsense. As a result of such reports, sales of the Sun newspaper (a popular tabloid newspaper in the UK) plummeted in Liverpool and have stayed very low ever since. Some of the relatives of the victims became well-known because they spent many years investigating the details of what had happened with more thoroughness and professionalism than the police did.
After the disaster, football stadiums were redesigned so that they had to have all-seated areas (previously, it was common for football stadiums to have large areas where fans stood up. That led to surges of the crowd moving and pushing dangerously. There were a number of similar incidents in the preceding years in which fans were pushed, swept along in a crush, or nearly stampeded. Some people said that it was a disaster waiting to happen and that it was just luck that nobody had been killed in earlier incidents).
My husband was there, right up the front he was lucky to have survived
it's now 97! sadly one never came out of a coma! absolute tragedy! Check out the incredible Anne Williams who fought and fought for a correct outcome! as the fans were blamed when it was the polices fault!
There's a drama on this week telling Anne's fight. Heartbreaking.
@@elainepeckham6098 yes I'm watching it it's brilliant
Thank you for watching this and being highly respectful. You watched, you listened. Horrendous day for many. So very sad. And out of sheer ignorance amd neglect.
Yes in a news report you can see the families sing YNWA outside of court..made me cry..they fought so long to get justice. Anne Williams was at the forefront of this..unfortunately she is no longer with us..but reunited with her son Kevin..
What the film doesn’t mention is that the sun newspaper which was pretty right wing decided to tell the story that it was the fans fault and prime minister thatcher was anti northern, especially Liverpool because she had extreme opposition from there she decided that she would maintain that the fans were to blame. In Liverpool people are actively encouraged to never buy the sun. I believe several newsagents wouldn’t even sell it.another issue was the design and running of the stadium. There had been issues before the disaster that were close to becoming disasters themselves. Although issues were reported nothing was done about it. Yet no prosecution was ever aimed at the stadium owners for what was effectively corporate manslaughter
Your right. Most if not all shops I go to have a ‘the s*n not welcome here’ sign on the shop door. My partner worked as a post man once. Whenever the depot were given the s*n junk mail to post, it went straight into the bin.
I remember the day like it was yesterday. I'm from Manchester and on that day I happened to be visiting York. I knew nothing of what had happened, but on my way back I realised that the motorway (the M62) would be packed with traffic from the game going back to Liverpool. When I got there, the motorway was strangely quiet and so I put the news on (thinking the game had gone into extra time) and then heard the terrible truth.
I am a Manchester United fan and although Liverpool and United have a deep and bitter rivalry, a tragedy such as this transcends petty rivalries. No one should go to a football match and never come home. The only good that came from this terrible tragedy was that those fences came down.
United and Liverpool share that terrible bond of a generational tragedy (in United's case it was the Munich air crash) along with Bradford City (Valley Parade fire) and Glasgow Rangers (Ibrox disaster).
You should read up on the second Ibrox disaster too, the anniversary of which was on the 2nd of January. 66 lost their lives that day in 1971. It lead to the publishing of the Green Guide for safety at sports grounds.
I was 15 and on that day my uncle was driving me and my parents back from the airport to our house in Somerset. I had no interest in football then, but appreciated it was England's game. As the news started to filter through to news channels on the radio, but without details, we fell silent knowing that something terrible had happened. We stopped at Little Chef (1980's roadside cafe) for something to eat and other diners and waitresses were remarking on it. Then as we left there was that dread that occurs when you know something terrible has happened, but you don't know the details (same thing happened for 9/11) and have no access to a TV or internet. When we got home that night, the news was truly terrible to watch with them showing scenes that would not be allowed today. Since then I've had a fear of large crowds and particularly music gigs with people being swept around off their feet at the front. The BBC did a documentary on Hillsborough a few years ago and it conveyed the dread of parents as they drove over from Liverpool to Sheffield not knowing if their children were alive. I highly recommend watching that even if you don't react to it.
Here's the one to watch: ua-cam.com/video/_fgk28PBzl8/v-deo.html
I was 16 and in the last year of school. A most shocking thing since the Kings Cross Fire. I didn't think anything else could shock me until September 11th.
@@suejaneuk1681 There were a ton of disasters in the 80's, it felt like every few months something awful happened.
I had relatives who were at this match and even today they can still remember vividly what went on that day. People in Liverpool and surrounding areas wont buy The Sun Newspaper due to what they printed about the fans.
Was only a kid when this happened but I still remember it happening. An absolute tragedy. My mate and his Dad went to the game and witnessed it all ( from Manchester but LFC fans ) . Luckily they escaped unscathed. R.I.P to the 97
I’m a Manchester United supporter, this was a tragedy and could have happened to any one of us. We were loaned five players after the Munich Air Disaster, along with players from other teams to help us finish the season. Anyone who brings this tragedy into disrepute should be ashamed of themselves.
I was 16 as was meant to go with my best mate, we went to the Norwich v Liverpool 2 weeks before but luckily we couldn't get the tickets for the semi final. My dad was at the other semi final that day which was Everton v Norwich. I now have justice for the 96 tattooed on my hand. Other fans like to sing at Liverpool fans sarcastically " You're always the victim it's never your fault" which I can see the banter but if they really saw what happened I don't think that they would sing it anymore. Peace from England, YNWA.....
I remember the Bradford fire tragedy. The fire service use the video to prove how dangerous and quick fire spreads. Tragic.
My thoughts also go to hills borough family and survivors
I used to work for the police in Scotland and part of my job was working with foreign officers. One day, my duty was to escort three German police experts on football violence to the two police divisions covering the two major Glasgow clubs to learn from them regarding violence prevention and fan safety. Footage of Hillsborough and Bradford was shown to them to explain how police management of football crowds had developed. One thing here is that the police have ultimate control over the stadium and safety as the club hands over control just before a match to the police control room in the stadium. Both disasters certainly brought forward the all seated stadia of today. Another crushing disaster was the Ibrox disaster which anniversary has just passed.
I remember watching both disasters live on tv. Always remember seeing a man with his hair on fire at the Bradford tragedy trying to put the fire out with his hands. I am a Liverpool supporter and had been to a few games at Anfield but couldn't afford to go to many games, always wonder what would have happened if i had gone to this game.
I'm a Bradford fan and tbh both disasters actually increased cooperation between both teams. Liverpool donated money to Bradford royal infirmary and we did some charity work in return for Hillsborough. RIP to the victims of both.
Hillsborough was a heartbreaking event. I believe it was one of the main triggers for making football stadiums all seater with no standing terraces. The images of Anfield post disaster where the Liverpool (and Everton who are the local rivals) fans paid tribute to the victims is amazing and haunting in equal measure.
I believe it was allowed to happen to make way for the all seater stadium, can you imagine the backlash from fans up and down the country if they were told in those days we are getting rid of your standing terraces to put seats in, there had to be a reason for fans to get on board with it, the disaster almost happened the season before same ground and the same teams
@@paulstephenson2872 seating is the worst thing to happen to football. It was the fault of the police and not the terraces.
Hillsborough absolutely infuriates me. Justice still hasn't been served to those whose spread lies and altered the statements of the officers that were trying to help.
The years and years of pain the families of the dead have had to go through, not only because of the loss (that could have been avoided at multiple stages) but because of the false claims made that have tarnished the reputation of the fans on that day. Still to this day people don't accept the reality of what really happened. How the likes of Duckenfield and Middup have walked away with no punishment is sickening. I hope with every fibre of my being that justice will still be served to them before they kick the bucket.
JP there is a pretty good documentary on the BBC from about 2016 that is well worth a watch. Too long for a reaction video, but definitely worth a watch in your own time, it will open your eyes.
RIP to the 97
As a Liverpool fan this still sits at the heart of what it means to be a Red, empathy and passion. JFT96
YNWA
97 now rip
Every year on the 15th April at 15:06 Liverpool falls silent in remembrance of the 96 now 97 LFC fans who went to watch a football game and never came home.
96 men women and children went to watch a football match and never came home,a real tragedy man YNWA.
97 now
Thank you so much for learning about this. This is exactly why your reaction to You'll Never Walk Alone was so popular why it means so much to the club. The tragedy that occurred is horrific, the footage and stories are so incredibly sad but what really stung for the families was the lies told for decades afterwards (no tickets, all drunk, urinating on emergency services as well as 'amended' police statements) #JFT96 - Justice For The 96 (now sadly 97) #YNWA - You'll Never Walk Alone trended before trending was even a thing. You should look into the inquest that took place The Hillsborough Independent Panel which came about after MPs read out heartbreaking transcripts in the house of commons calling for all documents to be made public back in 2009.
My Dad was in the middle of this. His back was crushed and he was disabled by the time he was 50. His way of dealing with it for over 20 years was to try and forget it happened. He pulled people out that day and slapped a policemen who had gone into shock. This video doesn't go into enough detail about the aftermath and the effect of the media and authorities on the national attitude towards the survivors, victim's families and people of Liverpool. To get a better idea of this watch ESPN Hillsborough 30 for 30. Trust me it is both sad and rage inducing.
Your dad and the others were heroes. Not professionals, not trained, traumatised and many hurt and they made themselves into a rescue service.
@@sashh2263 The 2 Hicks sisters that were mentioned, my dad was holding one of their hands while she lied on the pitch. He left her and the next time he saw her face was on the news as one of the dead. It haunted him for years and he felt a lot of guilt that he had left her and if he was there maybe he could have helped some way. It wasn't until the police were interviewing survivors again after the Independent Panel Report came out for the new court case that repressed memories came back. He was actually forced to leave her by the police! For years he blamed himself when he actually was forced to leave her.
To add Insult to injury, the senior police officer on duty that day, David Duckenfield, went on to be Chief Constable of Merseyside, the region that includes Liverpool, and Norman Bettison, an off-duty officer who attended the game as a spectator but was heavily involved in the subsequent police cover-up also became a Chief Constable in neighbouring West Yorkshire!
the Eighties had some wicked things happen here in the UK.Disasters,Tragedies,Terrorism.Almost one after the other. Bradford City stadium fire,Hillsborough,The Kings Cross station disaster,the Marchioness tragedy on the Thames,Lockerbie.Clapham Junction rail crash...So sad
I remember all of them being on the news you forgot the 87 hurricane aswell .
There’s a tv show called Ann on at the moment about a woman who last her 14 year old son to this disaster. It’s what drew my attention to it
My first boyfriend was there he was 16 at the time, he got lifted into one of the side pens he went with a group of friends and got separated and didn't know the faces of any of them till hrs after, this was before mobile phone and all the houses around the stadium were letting people in to use there phones and give them support, he still has nightmares ❤😔
Kevin williams was a 15 year old who also didn't survive, at the moment on our TV channel a drama about his mother and her long campaign for the truth on why and how he died is showing, its called Anne a 4 part drama based from her book, I hope you maybe able to see it as it shows more from a mother's side of this tragedy. My heart broke when I've been watching it, brought me to tears 😢 as well as all the other people that lost their lives on that tragic day, as a Liverpool supporter it's still raw today, rest in peace to all those people.
Maxine peake acted the part so well and Anne Williams worked so hard to get the justice for the 96 fans including her son.
It’s now 97, as a man who suffered brain damage at Hillsborough in 1989 passed away a not long ago.
The most tragic event ever. Even though I'm not a big football fan and Irish not English, we all grieved for the survivors and the families when this happened. Agree with previous commenter those pictures should never have been shown on screen, they were very obviously in extreme distress and the police weren't doing anything to help them.
I will remember this day for as long as I live. I was working in the local hospital it was a Terrible day. 🙏🏼
I remember the day it happened, I was in York shopping and saw a crowd of people standing looking through a TV showroom window at the TV's in the window. Curious to see what the attraction was I went over to look and every screen had the horrible close up footage of those desperate fans crushed against the railings. Those images are etched in my memory to this day. The whole country was in shock. Every newspaper front page carried those images too, the news stands were full of it, so shocking. I cried watching this again, 33 years on.😪
And the sun front page blamed the fans. 🤬
I lived in Hillsborough at the time and remember seeing scores of fans heading back towards town as I was going shopping. As it was not long after 3.15, I didn't know what was going on. There was a shop with an electrical dept so I called in and saw what was happening.
On my way home I saw cars going through red lights with distraught parents.
An awful time for Sheffield.
@@garytoner4563 yes, 'The Scum' as it has been known ever since. Kelvin McKenzie, the editor at the time is a repugnant human being. Unfortunately, the narrative was being spun not only by Dukenfield and other senior officers, but by an MP as well, I believe. And the narrative was 'drunk fans stampeding and breaking down the gates to gain access, causing deaths'. It wasn't true then. It isn't true now. Yet, there are people who still believe this egregious lie, despite the fact that it has been proved to be false.
Joel, I remember watching it live as a kid, totally horrific and very tragic, and still very emotional to see after all these years. As has been suggested in previous comments, you should react to the Bradford Stadium fire, another game i was watching live at the time.
Where did you watch it live? I think it was only shown live on Irish tv
@@lyncohn9505 It was on the BBC.
It's now 97 he passed away last Yr x I was 15 at the time and a Liverpool fan and still remember it being o. The TV and radio it was. So sad and it hit the whole country hard x
32 years of injustice finally came to an end thanks to MANY but namely Anne Williams who saw justice for her dead son just 3 days before dying. You’ll never walk alone . RIP to the 97
I can remember watching this live - Still brings me to tears every time I watch any footage of this. As a Liverpool supporter I was one of the lucky ones who never knew anyone involved - Almost everyone knew someone killed or injured that day and every time I go up for a game I have to visit the memorial just for that reflection and to pay my respects.
R.I.P to the 97
I remember watching the video of the Bradford Stadium fire and to this day I can not get the picture of the man walking calmly across the pitch totally engulfed by fire.
20 miles from where I live, watched it as it happened on tv, to this day! NO ONE HAS BEEN HELD ACCOUNTABLE!!! 🤬😡
At the time of Hillsborough I was in Athens, sitting on the dock wall in Pireus. I was listening to a transistor radio 📻 hoping to gey the game on world service. At the moment of the disaster the waves in the harbour went crazy. I didn't understand the relevance at the time until the waves died down and it came on the news that Liverpool fans had invaded the pitch (how wrong were the reports?). I found out that when I got back to Liverpool my brother and sister had been lucky enough to be pulled out of the Leppings Lane and survived the crush. However my brother was unable to ever go to a match again and passed away a few years later. He never got over the effects of that day and would often break into floods of tears. R.i.P. our kid always missed YNWA
So sorry for your loss. It's an event that has left a mark on all Scousers but none more so than those that lost people as a result of this tragedy for one reason or another.
I was 18 at the time and as a Liverpool fan had tried to get a ticket for the game, luckily I didn't get one and watched the horror unfold live on tv. I'll never forget those images, no one deserves to go to watch a match and never come home! So sad...and it's 97 now not 96....JFT97
I still remember passing this on my way back from work, didn't know what was happening until I watched the news and saw the events unfolding, so awful 😢 "you'll never walk alone" 💗 from SWFC
my brother was there and helped the injured he was one of the crowd pulling people up in the west stand
The case is showing on ITV at the moment from the perspective of one mother, I remember this happening and also we had another one whereby the stadium caught fire, but you should go into these using British programmes such as documentaries which there are no end of on historical events
that is why that song is so special. The song is from the musical film Carousel.
The worst disaster in my lifetime in the UK is the mind-bogglingly tragic Aberfan incident. There are a number of UA-cam videos on it. The enormity of the event that horrific morning is overwhelming.
Aberfan is the first news event I can remember, it was so horrendous that it stayed with me, I don’t remember any other news events after it until the moon landing. With no social media, my mother had no idea what was about to come up on the news or she would never have let me watch it. It still makes me cry when I see pictures or film about it.
@@sammygirl5835 My mother wouldn't let us watch the news when it happened.
Sadly, the Hillsborough tragedy could have been avoided as there had been many previous warnings.
In 1981 there were a number of injuries after a crush at an FA Cup semi-final between Tottenham Hotspur and Wolverhampton Wanderers. 38 people were injured with a number having broken arms, legs and ribs. In response, fences were put between the pens to stop people moving from one end to the other. This actually worsened the situation.
There were no FA Cup games at Hillsborough between 1981 and 1987.
In 1987 Coventry City played Leeds United and again, there was crushing at the Leppings Lane end. Whilst no injuries were reported, some fans had to be pulled from the crowd.
The year prior to the tragedy, 1988, Liverpool played Nottingham Forest in the FA Cup semi-final at Hillsborough and there was some crushing at the Leppings Lane end which prompted Liverpool to write a letter of complaint to the minister for sport, but nothing was done.
The senior policeman in charge in 1988 (Superintendent Mole) did a much better job of managing the crowds with ticket checks outside the ground prior to the turnstiles. At the turnstiles there were orderly queues unlike in 1989 because the Police directed fans to the appropriate turnstiles. Even so, inside the ground signage and stewardship of the crowds was poor and both could easily have been improved to distribute the fans better.
In 1989, Superintendent Duckinfield was in charge. He had no experience of policing such games and he bears much of the responsibility for what happened at the turnstiles as well as giving the order to open the gate near the turnstiles which allowed so many fans to enter in such a short time. He was also a source of the accusations against the Liverpool fans stating that they had forced the gate next to the turnstiles (when he had ordered it to be opened) and that fans were drunk and unruly.
Yes, the sidelining of Mole shortly before this match was incredibly strange. He knew the ground intimately. He knew the problems, had taken steps to alleviate them on other occasions. But suddenly he's taken off this duty because of a 'hazing incident' between junior officers and Dukinfield was put in charge.
My dad was there . He was at the front, he survived . But its a day he will never forget and continues to have survivors guilt to this very day . He was 15, going to enjoy a footy match and it ended in such disaster. The police cocked up and the fans were blamed . Justice system is absolutely fu**ed up, after many years of enquiries and families fighting for the truth. The verdict of accidental death was finally removed . I'll never forget finding the newspaper clippings as a child in the house and asking my grandparents what it was .. justice for the 96... now 97 💔💔
I was a child when this happened but I remember watching it happen live on the tv, it is etched in my memory as I remember seeing so many desperate people trying to breathe. There are now 97 deaths as recently a man who had been in a coma since the disaster has died. This was horrific. You'll never walk alone has become their song. It's shameful that it took until 2016 for the victims families to get justice. They deserved more from the police, vilifying the victims was appalling. I'm so glad they got justice. The 97 will always be remembered. RIP.
Anyone old enough will remember exactly where they were when they heard about this tragedy. Like the Bradford City fire sometime earlier, it lives in your mind for ever. RIP all victims of these terrible events.
The ground itself I believe failed it's crowd safety certificate.
The police constables directly after the disaster were instructed to amend their note books.
Margaret Thatcher was prime minister at the time ordered a cover up for almost 30 years. Nobody was held accountable.
I was 22 years old at the time. It was happening live and I remember that my Father went very quiet and it was then my brain fully understood that I was witnessing a tragedy unfold. I have never been able to unsee those images and have great sorrow for those who were in that stadium and were part of it and those who helplessly witnessed it. I am not from Liverpool but admire the strength shown by the people who never let this tragedy be forgotten and finally got some justice. RIP to the 97.
I remember reading about this when at primary school and seeing the picture of the people’s faces pressed against the fence. Always comes to mind when people mention this, so sad!!
Thank you for your respect sir.
You'll never walk alone in Britain
My heart is still heavy after all these years. My thoughts and prayers to all who lost friends and loved ones on that terrible day.
i was a little kid watching the liverpool game as my dad and i support liverpool (and blackpool) but i remember watching this happen live. i was 8
The worst of it was that the police and match officials blamed the fans.
Check out the Grenfell Tower disaster, the Shannon Mathews missing child case and Jamie Bulger's murder as well as other British historical events too. There's many things like this that are part of our history aside from the wars and empire building. I think they would be a good insight into British lives that isn't part of normal commentary. Cheers and Happy New Year x
@@Thea7972 he's going to have to be careful if he's covering certain topics that will either get him censored or result in him ending up in some kind of propaganda vs conspiracy debate. For example, the troubles in N.Ireland, 15 minute WMDs from Iraq or Diana's death. I'd like to see him cover Roul Moat, Jade Goody and Jimmy Saville / Gary Glitter
Things that we all know about in the UK that aren't international news such as the 7/7 bombing.
Imagine your loved went to watch a game of football they had tickets they were where they should have been. But they never came home. 95 died that day and a young man died twenty yrs later from his injuries that left him in a vegetive state when oxygen was cut off to his brain. His family nursed him for all those years to lose him in the end. And to blame the fans for a decision you made was wrong on every level. Those family’s fought to get an unlawful killing verdict for their loved ones it took them twenty five yrs but they finally got the verdict.. nobody who hears you’ll never walk alone can not think about those ninety six fans and all the other fans and family’s whose lives changed that terrible day. RIP Liverpool 96
Terrible accident and the heartbreaking scenes. I can only imagine the grief the family have had to endure. Many stadiums across the country were in a similar unsafe condition to deal with the crowds being allowed in, but historically matches were always over full. Personally I am uncomfortable with the current situation, the family of the deceased have failed to hold those clubs/stadium/local authority responsible so now suing the government for £200 million of tax payers money.
No accident.....
This was a truly sad post to watch my sincere condolences to all the victims families 💙
As a Liverpool fan I was meant to be there that day but due to having tonsillitis i couldn't go may they all 97 RIP YNWA
I just finished watching Anne on itv - she fought for justice for her son and other victims - it was mainly to do with the coroner imposing a cut off time of quarter past 3 - forgive me if I’m wrong - he said nobody was alive after three fifteen but they were - a policeman felt a pulse in her sons neck and if he had received sufficient medical attention he could have survived as 41 others possibly could have been if the ambulances had been allowed on the pitch 😢😢😢😢😢
I am from UK in liverpool my cousin broke his leg . And his sisters boyfreind lost his life. My cousin who broke his leg will not talk about it every time the anniversary comes he gose quiet . There is a documentary on our TV at the moment about one of the Liverpool fan loosing his life . His mum who had cancer was taking the police to court her son died 45 min after the time they said police said it was before and trying to cover up what really happend.
My dad he was there as well and was injured as well he once showed me a football mag called shoot that had his photo in it and the story he struggled the rest of his life from the injuries
There was also another earlier disaster at a football stadium when a stand caught fire. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradford_City_stadium_fire
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Brought back awful memories ot that day, I was there and 17 Yr old. Changed my life forever, peace from Heighton. X
I was 8 when this happened, but my big brother was 15 back then and he was shocked when he saw what was going on. He is huge football fan and he didn't believe the so called " hooligans" theory. He saw behind the BS. Me myself was too young to see this back then, but i m glad that the truth is out and i hope that the victims will get justice, so never give up getting justice for them.
The Sun newspaper which misreported it was the fans fault, is still burned and thrown in bins in Liverpool. It’s still a raw event.
If you go to anfield, it shows the memorials of the people who supported Liverpool at the match, I saw it right after the Liverpool v Newcastle (3-1) I always cry.
theirs a Drama on ITV called Ann about Kevin Williams mum. and you know they have just brought back standing in the Stadium they said on Sunday nights news.
after this happened the grounds put in all seating, no more standing, you used to be able to pay at the gates and squeeze two in for 1 price, it was called (lifting in) when you were little you could ask a paying adult (can u lift me in mate).. this is no more , all tickets now for obvious safety reasons highlighted from the Hillsborough disaster
I lived in South Yorkshire near Sheffield at the time watching the match with my niece and my young child on the telly.We could see it all unfolding - it was traumatic and heartbreaking.🙏
I watched this on bbc when it happened and it still makes me emotional to this day. Nobody should go to a football match and not come home.
And what makes this so much harder to accept was the cover up by the police and government, and by so much of the media (don’t buy the Sun). Lies, lies, lies and more lies.
And I think the number of dead was recently increased to 97 to include a man who suffered atrocious injuries on the day, who suffered for years but only passed recently.
Justice for the 97 - YNWA 🤘🇬🇧🤘
I remember this so vividly, my boyfriend at the time was watching grandstand, all of a sudden it went crazy.. I was 18 at the time, this is second to 9/11.. I was 30 then.. and I witnessed a millennium .. a pandemic, Hillsborough disaster was the most memorable.. how the fans were blamed when it should have been duckenfeild.. he was the police commander.. he ordered the gate c to be opened.. he never closed the tunnel.. IT WAS NOT THE FANS FAULT AT ALL
Shame on ALL the police, not just that one officer. And shame on the media for how they (mis)handled it too. South Yorkshire police were absolutely corrupt in their actions that day and for decades afterwards!
I was a kid when it happened, like nursery age or something? Very young. Have extremely hazy memories of it being discussed.
When I was a Student Nurse, I had a mentor at one point who herself was actually a Student Nurse at this time, and one day she told me about how she was working at the local hospital the day of the disaster. Due to the need for staff she got 'drafted' from the ward where she was working to go and help out in Casualty (A&E or known as ER I think in America). She told me a little about what it was like working that day, the types of injuries they saw, the convoy of vehicles slowly making their way to the Emergency doors that she described as "seemingly endless". She told me that a lot of staff working that day ended up leaving healthcare as they were so traumatised, including some other student staff (doctors, nurses, radiographers, etc). It was clearly a very difficult topic to discuss and I appreciated her sharing what she did because it helped me better understand. It is absolutely horrific, and the lies that were spread by tabloids and the police was disgusting.
Thank you for looking at this topic, don't know if I saw any of your other videos and no idea how you ended up on this subject, but thanks for bringing it to more people's attention
It was the SYP senior officers and maybe a few of the juniors (who were under the impression that there was a pitch invasion till they realised what was going on), but most of the 'foot soldiers' that day tried to help. They were instructed by senior officers not to write their reports and bullied and intimidated later into changing the reports they did write in the immediate aftermath - and not just by SYP senior officers, but by the supposed 'investigative team' from West Midlands Police. Even the survivors and others didn't place any blame at the feet of the ordinary coppers, who were overwhelmed on the day and many were seen trying to help, carrying the makeshift stretchers, etc etc.
Duckenfield and other senior officers who facilitated the cover up and spread the despicable narrative about 'drunken fans forcing the gates', the right wing media and others high up in organisations responsible were to blame for not only the 97 deaths, but the continued suffering of the survivors and relatives and friends. The cover-up was as egregious as the manslaughter. And I do believe Duckenfield at the very least should have been found guilty of that. And others of conspiracy to cover up the crime. Instead, they have got away with it.
So the blame lays squarely on Duckenfield and other senior officers - from both SYP and WMP. The ordinary coppers got caught in the crossfire. And were treated disgustingly by their own superiors and others. Utter disgrace. WE all know the truth, but the final justice eludes the campaign. JFT97
01:20 As a matter of fact, when I heard about the Travis Scott incident on the news, I was reminded of this.
Thank you for posting this video. If you're interested in more about Hillsborough, there are a few videos on the topic that I can recommend for you to watch with this (admittedly lengthy) summary to set the context for each.
Hillsborough was a disaster and the concerted and sustained cover-up by South Yorkshire and West Midlands Police forces was an absolute disgrace. For 20 years the families of the fans fought to uncover the truth about what happened that day and were denied it. The Sun newspaper (owned by Rupert Murdoch) carried a headline 'The Truth' above a story that was a pack of lies saying the Liverpool fans had been drunk, attacked police and the emergency services as they tried to save people and had urinated on dying people and looted from the dead. It was a completely fabricated by a local news agency working with the police but for DECADES people believed it and the club, fans and city of Liverpool were tarnished by these lies. As a result, shops across Liverpool have refused to sell the Sun newspaper ever again and that refusal exists to this day. Local writer Jimmy McGovern penned a script for a drama documentary entitled 'Hillsborough' that looked into what happened and the treatment of the fans and their families. It made for shocking viewing and some people outside Liverpool dismissed it as over-exaggerated.
When the Liverpool families got a high court judge to look into whether there should be a new inquest into Hillsborough in 1997, the official who turned up - Lord Justice Stuart-Smith - arrived in Liverpool to hear the evidence and greeted members of the families with the words: “Have you got a few of your people or are they like the Liverpool fans, turn up at the last minute?". He was completely biased against them.
In 2009 (the 20th anniversary of Hillsborough) Liverpool Football Club held a service of remembrance at Anfield stadium, attended by the Government's Minister for Culture & Sport, Andy Burnham. As he started to express the condolences of the Prime Minister, the frustration of the families and fans - having fought against successive Governments for the truth, only to be repeatedly denied - boiled over and what happened next was a show of solidarity that finally caused the Government to revisit the case and allow an independent inquiry into the disaster - (ua-cam.com/video/-z3mBIi084Q/v-deo.html).
The inquiry took 2 and a half years and its results were published on 12 Sep 2012 in a special conference at Liverpool Cathedral (since the Bishop of Liverpool had led the panel). The Hillsborough families were given the first announcement of the findings in private and then a full press conference took place in the Lady Chapel. Before the conference began (and sadly not captured on this video) was that the Bishop of Liverpool asked the journalist from the Sun newspaper to leave. (ua-cam.com/video/-z3mBIi084Q/v-deo.html)
One of my closest friends lost her nephew at Hillsborough. On that day I was so worried for her that the report wouldn't confirm everything she'd said for decades - that some details would vindicate the police. I expected the report to uncover SOME truth to what she'd said all these years but even I was both relieved and also shocked to hear that EVERYTHING - absolutely EVERYTHING - she'd said about that disaster and the cover-up was TRUE (including everything in the 'Hillsborough' drama written 23 years earlier).
Later that morning, in the Houses of Parliament, Prime Minister David Cameron gave a 12 minute summary of the findings of the report. His statement drew repeated gasps of shock from the assembled Members of Parliament at the extent of the negligence by the Police and Emergency Services that day and the determined lengths they went to to cover it up - ua-cam.com/video/BWKnjpzb9LE/v-deo.html
In 2016 the 'accidental death' verdict of the original inquest was finally quashed and it was found that the victims had been 'unlawfully killed'. The former Chief Superintendent David Duckenfield was put on trial for manslaughter but was found not guilty and to date NO-ONE has been held accountable for the 97 deaths that resulted from the Hillsborough disaster.
Just this week, ITV broadcast a 4 part drama series, entitled 'Anne', about the experiences of Anne Williams, whose 15 year old son, Kevin, had been killed at Hillsborough. She was a leading figure in the Hillsborough Families support group in their search for Justice. The series was both incredible to watch and immensely sad (Anne passed away from cancer not long after the inquest verdict). A 'making of' documentary the night after broadcast the testimony of David Duckinfield where he finally admitted his responsibility for what happened at Hillsborough.
After Anne's death, the BBC Sports Personality of the Year awards ceremony recognised Anne with a special award - ua-cam.com/video/UmcQ1WJkpZE/v-deo.html
the police covered up lots of stuff for years
I'm not a football fan but I remember this event and the Bradford city stadium fire that was awful too
One of my school friends was at Hillsborough, luckily she was dragged to the terrace above and survived, heartbreaking for all involved.
Just a point, the initial voiceover claimed the pen was a 'seated' area. It wasn't. It was all-standing. They have since made it all-seated.
It was found that 41 of the 96 could have been saved had the emergency serves been allowed on the pitch to help. 3 ambulances actually made it on to the pitch, but they were instructed not to stop.
I would watch some of the other Hillsborough documentaries on UA-cam - there are many. They explain it a lot better. They are longer, but much more detailed. There was no evidence that any Liverpool fans turned up without tickets. It was entirely down to police action on the day amd afterward, South Yorkshire Police, aided and abetted by West Midlands Police started the cover-up. Ordinary coppers' statements on the day were changed, they were instructed not to write anything and all the victims, including the children, were tested for alcohol, in order to run the narrative that they had been drunk amd to blame them for their own deaths.
Many people still believe these lies to this day. Despite the overwhelming evidence to the contrary. No one has ever been held to account. It's a disgrace.
I was working in the stadium that day in the opposite end of the ground but was on the pitch after the game was halted and carried several people from the pitch and to this day I still don’t know who they were. Its a day I’ll never forget, R.I.P the innocent 96+1
Hi Joel, currently on our ITV channel they are showing a four part drama called Anne. Telling the story of her son Kevin Williams, the lad mentioned in your clip. If there's a chance you can get it over there you'll see how much the families of the victims of that awful day have been treated, and how long it took for them to get justice.
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Saw that Travis Scott concert and reminded me of this!
I remember watching this happening live on TV,I was 13 at the time, my dad was watching the match never forget that day ..it was also sad that at school kids would blame some of the fans the press newspapers blamed them when it was the police lack of safety and management!!
I’m from Warrington seeing the court on the news and remember it all over northwest news singing you never walk alone.
I find any videos around the Hillsborough disaster incredibly difficult to watch. I’m a Liverpool fan and was born a year after the disaster. I can’t imagine what it must have been like there on the day or for the families in the fight in the aftermath for years and decades. YNWA 97 ❤️