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Bro, I love your attention to details and no bias reviews. Understand you probably doing this without a team. Hopefully one day we could see you do this in a more conversational way, giving some insights, on top of just reading through every chart
@@kopatator I’m not saying he doesn’t make sense… of course he does. I’m just hoping he could give more insights about his ranking, and what he personally would recommend etc. Because I could easily glance through the chart in less than a minute in his website, so not much extra I could gain from hearing him only repeating the ranking here… That’s what I meant
@@kopatator yeah, you see, this is the kind of things that would benefit viewers if he would share, cos there's always more to just numbers on these tests.... And like you said, it may differ depending on our rig, our purpose right? So an insight on that would be more helpful for viewers, such as what factor we should consider, pros and cons of some of the models, price vs performance etc.
I was like shit I just bought a cpu cooler, it was the scythe mugen 4. Luckily seems like a good buy since the Peerless assasin 140mm is not available where I live
Did noctua fix their heatsink rattle issue on g2? Also how come arctic LF 280 performs as well as 360 on intel platform but its quite a bit worse than LF360 on AM5?
Thanks for the hard work on this review. However, the numbers provided don’t offer much insight. Most people are primarily concerned with noise levels and temperature. Small increases in frequency have minimal impact on user experience compared to temperature and noise. To make the review more useful, focus on noise levels alongside temperature data for a given wattage level or show temperature improvements per dollar compared to a stock or basic cooler per given wattage level . This will give readers a clearer idea of the cooler’s value. These metrics need to be shown first, then others. Use a formula mixing wattage, frequency and temperature is very confusing
All the information you mention is ALSO provided. Moreover, the frequency differences are NOT small. And why the formula confuses you, since I do the calculations? Measuring ONLY temperature is for the past, it doesn't work in new processors and I explained in the video why, especially in AMD CPUs.
Delta-T is indeed a flawed method. Because if the ambient is different between tests, the CPU will either be a few degrees hotter or colder, which impacts its powerconsumption and therefor stress on the CPU cooler. To get accurate results, you have to keep the same ambient all the time anyway, so may aswell just use the actual numbers.... If I remember correct, its 5% extra power consumption for every 10 degrees warmer.
just get you a chassis with a nice mesh/front panel with enough clearance for fans on the outside of the cage/chassis....and flush mount a 280mm arctic rad to the inner chassis/front fan cage....and some pull fans on back...look into clearance/aspects XD. With how some of these huge cooler AIB cool gpu...this orientation wont affect gpu thermals if your chassis also has gpu/side panel mesh and intake fan mounts XD. Then you dont have to worry about aio/rad as an exhaust/hot air saturating the radiator playing into its overall performance/ceiling. While leaving your top and rear exhaust completely unobstructed perfect for flow/passage for vrm/ram thermals imo. You get the cost/performance aspect of the 280mm and added QOL/DB performance to fan speed/cooling ratios. Given the cheap price point of the 5x pack boxes for their 140mm pwm/multiconnect fans. Then implement the 2x for push/aio-included fans for pull pair the plugs/headers as cpu fans in bios/header identification....and use the other 2 as top exhaust or potentially top+rear exhaust if chassis supports 140mm rear exhaust...which shouldnt be an aio/radiator clearance issue-if possible due to front mounting XD. Otherwise 40$ for the peerless...to think of how many builds/budget builds its offering ADDED air flow/pull to in their upper chassis if chassis/fans arent fully populated. Easy recommend to anyone on an older platform trying to save for a newer gen/platform launch....a used higher/sku cpu and the peerless doesnt seem like a bad/cost effective way to upgrade your older/gen gaming build or give it some fresh legs to make it through the last portion of your BUILDS marathon before eventual new 1851 launches...or longer into am5+....or longer am6/ddr6 Damn...by then most systems hell even zen3 and 11th gen will probably be slower than a laptop with 2027-2028's version of a 115w-140w gpu damn.
@@Googleteste123 Thermalright has perfectly matched or even beaten has perfect D15 G1 . Depending on the test and testing conditions. The Phantom Spirit lineup and Frost Commander if I am not mistaken. And even if G2 is ensured Noctua's throne for now , it's not like it's 20 celzius difference. It does not justify 4x the price difference.
@@Googleteste123from my point of view, Thermalright smoked the entire competition here, nothing comes close. Which is why I’m so proud to use one right now. Do some research, it even beat some liquid cooling
@shunae86 I don't want to bash thermalright. Good products for a good price. I just explained why noctua can ask more for their products and people still buy it. Another reason for the price difference is the fact that noctua is an austrian company and thermalright ia taiwanese. The production and engineering costs in Europe are much higher. If all that counts is the product price then everyone would buy asian products, but your children have nothing to eat in some years...
@@Googleteste123 I love Noctua and have few of their coolers, using the NHD 15 chromax now on my main PC and nhd 12 on my second PC but there is no chance I will be buying the new NHD 15 g2 for the price they're asking for it especially considering the negligible performance improvement over what I have but even if I didn't have any cooler and was looking for 1 still wouldn't even consider the g2 at 150$.
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Hardware BustAIRs top tier list. Thumbs up!
This is great. Comprehensive, tiered in a way that makes sense, and lists some of the most sensible purchases on the market.
Bro, I love your attention to details and no bias reviews.
Understand you probably doing this without a team.
Hopefully one day we could see you do this in a more conversational way, giving some insights, on top of just reading through every chart
@@kopatator I’m not saying he doesn’t make sense… of course he does. I’m just hoping he could give more insights about his ranking, and what he personally would recommend etc.
Because I could easily glance through the chart in less than a minute in his website, so not much extra I could gain from hearing him only repeating the ranking here…
That’s what I meant
@@kopatator yeah, you see, this is the kind of things that would benefit viewers if he would share, cos there's always more to just numbers on these tests....
And like you said, it may differ depending on our rig, our purpose right? So an insight on that would be more helpful for viewers, such as what factor we should consider, pros and cons of some of the models, price vs performance etc.
*Thank you Sir for the excellent work. Please keep it up*
Thank you! 🙏🏼👍🏼
(I'm using the DeepCool Mystique 360 in a brand new build and it rocks! 🤟🏼)
Awesome job, thank you for the work.
I was like shit I just bought a cpu cooler, it was the scythe mugen 4. Luckily seems like a good buy since the Peerless assasin 140mm is not available where I live
Yep it's a great cooler.
Great, thank you !!!
Thank you! ***PERFECT*** Absolute first class!!!
This video was cooler than the previous ones...
Did noctua fix their heatsink rattle issue on g2?
Also how come arctic LF 280 performs as well as 360 on intel platform but its quite a bit worse than LF360 on AM5?
Thanks for the hard work on this review. However, the numbers provided don’t offer much insight. Most people are primarily concerned with noise levels and temperature. Small increases in frequency have minimal impact on user experience compared to temperature and noise. To make the review more useful, focus on noise levels alongside temperature data for a given wattage level or show temperature improvements per dollar compared to a stock or basic cooler per given wattage level . This will give readers a clearer idea of the cooler’s value. These metrics need to be shown first, then others. Use a formula mixing wattage, frequency and temperature is very confusing
All the information you mention is ALSO provided. Moreover, the frequency differences are NOT small. And why the formula confuses you, since I do the calculations? Measuring ONLY temperature is for the past, it doesn't work in new processors and I explained in the video why, especially in AMD CPUs.
ThermalRIGHT sure is doing alRIGHT!
Delta-T is indeed a flawed method. Because if the ambient is different between tests, the CPU will either be a few degrees hotter or colder, which impacts its powerconsumption and therefor stress on the CPU cooler. To get accurate results, you have to keep the same ambient all the time anyway, so may aswell just use the actual numbers.... If I remember correct, its 5% extra power consumption for every 10 degrees warmer.
just get you a chassis with a nice mesh/front panel with enough clearance for fans on the outside of the cage/chassis....and flush mount a 280mm arctic rad to the inner chassis/front fan cage....and some pull fans on back...look into clearance/aspects XD. With how some of these huge cooler AIB cool gpu...this orientation wont affect gpu thermals if your chassis also has gpu/side panel mesh and intake fan mounts XD. Then you dont have to worry about aio/rad as an exhaust/hot air saturating the radiator playing into its overall performance/ceiling. While leaving your top and rear exhaust completely unobstructed perfect for flow/passage for vrm/ram thermals imo. You get the cost/performance aspect of the 280mm and added QOL/DB performance to fan speed/cooling ratios. Given the cheap price point of the 5x pack boxes for their 140mm pwm/multiconnect fans. Then implement the 2x for push/aio-included fans for pull pair the plugs/headers as cpu fans in bios/header identification....and use the other 2 as top exhaust or potentially top+rear exhaust if chassis supports 140mm rear exhaust...which shouldnt be an aio/radiator clearance issue-if possible due to front mounting XD. Otherwise 40$ for the peerless...to think of how many builds/budget builds its offering ADDED air flow/pull to in their upper chassis if chassis/fans arent fully populated. Easy recommend to anyone on an older platform trying to save for a newer gen/platform launch....a used higher/sku cpu and the peerless doesnt seem like a bad/cost effective way to upgrade your older/gen gaming build or give it some fresh legs to make it through the last portion of your BUILDS marathon before eventual new 1851 launches...or longer into am5+....or longer am6/ddr6 Damn...by then most systems hell even zen3 and 11th gen will probably be slower than a laptop with 2027-2028's version of a 115w-140w gpu damn.
You cannot be ThermalRight’s value. Nobody beats ThermalRight’s price to performance. You can get close to Noctua for 1/3 the price.
Thermalright can never beat Noctua. Thats why Noctua can ask more for the best.
@@Googleteste123
Thermalright has perfectly matched or even beaten has perfect D15 G1 .
Depending on the test and testing conditions.
The Phantom Spirit lineup and Frost Commander if I am not mistaken.
And even if G2 is ensured Noctua's throne for now , it's not like it's 20 celzius difference.
It does not justify 4x the price difference.
@@Googleteste123from my point of view, Thermalright smoked the entire competition here, nothing comes close.
Which is why I’m so proud to use one right now.
Do some research, it even beat some liquid cooling
@shunae86 I don't want to bash thermalright. Good products for a good price. I just explained why noctua can ask more for their products and people still buy it. Another reason for the price difference is the fact that noctua is an austrian company and thermalright ia taiwanese. The production and engineering costs in Europe are much higher. If all that counts is the product price then everyone would buy asian products, but your children have nothing to eat in some years...
@@Googleteste123 I love Noctua and have few of their coolers, using the NHD 15 chromax now on my main PC and nhd 12 on my second PC but there is no chance I will be buying the new NHD 15 g2 for the price they're asking for it especially considering the negligible performance improvement over what I have but even if I didn't have any cooler and was looking for 1 still wouldn't even consider the g2 at 150$.
Thermalright Peerless is the absolute nobrainer.
I just want to see temperatures. This doesn't help me really.
the temperatures graphs are in the video.