Brick experiments has lifted 200 pounds with a single motor. The main issue you ran into was no additional gearing/tackle, and of course just the lego axels having limited strength. It's a good start and I'd love to see your motor power things once you have a better output system
@@mickys8065 if you want to be pedantic his motor is stronger, it's just he did nothing to show it's potential. Also tbf, it's far from the strongest as there is a straight up lego car motor so..... idk, didn't wanna bully the man in his own comment section. But also, nowhere near close to the strongest
As an engineer I can tell you: with one of these you can't move a car But if you build 2 of these motors they could actually move you in a small rideable thing like a go cart. Lego built a full size driveable Bugatti Chiron, they used 1.500 L-Motors which produces a torque of 50-74 Newtonmetres.
@@research_ai8740 I didn't do anything 😂 Lego technic itself did this. And no, they didn't overvoltage it. Their goal was to nearly only use stock Lego parts
Say youve got two motors, one of which puts out 50lbs-ft of torque at 1000rpm, and the other puts out 100lbs-ft of torque at 1000rpm. While, yes, you can hook up the first motor to a 2:1 gearset to make it put out the same amount of torque as the second, itll also be half the speed. Same torque, half the speed, half the ability to do work.
@@sigmamale4147 my point is, with a more powerful motor, you can have the same amount of torque, but at higher speeds. Two motors lifting the same weight, the more powerful one is gonna lift it faster.
Yes, build three more! In a sense, you've basically combined all the torque from each motor. I think it's safe to bet that it's even stronger than the metal motors you find in RC toys
Make 8 and copy what you did inside of machine to make 9 and a half times the torque because you made the machine bigger and used the 8 machines to get 9 and a half torque. hope it makes sense
LEGO Technic team actually did make a car, a Bugatti Chiron once with LEGO and even with a powerful LEGO motor engine, the same principle as here. This is really mind-blowing. #LEGOtechnic
@@MarcSteen so the most powerful motor is the balance between more motors more batteries and less mechanical friction? I thought there’s some design that makes a single motor more effective
I wonder if there's a point where the friction caused by extra gears counteracts the torque created by extra motors? Like if there's an upper limit on how much you can get out of Lego motors
Brick Experiment Channel does a lot of Lego gear ratios. He's got metal axles that he uses sometimes because they don't bend and twist as easily. You could check those out
A thoughtful commentary on the wonders, but also the dangers, of technological progress. When he said "it's L-motoring time," I cried. The apocalyptic ending was fearsome. Truly one of the films of all time.
Tip, you can drastically decrease chances of stripping your gears, just by adding more contact area between any connected set of gears. How can you do this? By using multiple of the same sized gears on the same axle. The more gears you add, the more torque they can handle. Basically just take however many gears you want and pair them up in the same way you would connect 1 gear pair. Im high right now but i have a masters in engineering, i just hope u understand what i mean😂
You could literally do the same thing with 1 Lego motor. You would just need a high torque compounded gear ratio, similar to what you have done at 8:03 but the opposite way around. But what you did is not completely useless because just making a very high torque gear ratio would make the last gear spin very slowly, you made the last gear spinning quickly while still having a lot of torque.
So... you could not do the same thing with 1 lego motor. You just contradicted yourself. Yeah, you can make an arbitrary amount of torque using even the tiniest motor using gearsets, but the advantage to having all 8 motors is that for a given amount of output torque, you have 8 times the speed, as compared to 1 motor putting out the same torque.
You can definitely make a viable vehicle motor from these, the issue is the output shaft is so small and flimsy it would just break or twist before it could move anything. If you can find a way to make a thicker sturdier shaft, it will hold up to more torque.
8:28 assuming each motor is running at 300 rpm, the output is 8100 rpm 300 x 1/5 x 40/24 = 100 (rpm of the “mega” motor) 100 x 3/1 x 3/1 x 3/1 x 3/1 = 8,100 (final speed)
If you can get your hands on a dead M-motor, open it up and replace the motor core with a motor purpose-made to modify a flywheel dart blaster, like an Out of Darts Kraken; it should fit. Just need to power it with a separate 12-volt 28-amp or more supply. There are power supplies made for LED projects that output 12 volts at up to 30 amps...
@@MrBlaDiBla68 or use a large gear as the last output gear, and you can have multiple shafts coming out of the gear so wouldn’t be using only one, but up to five shafts to handle the torque
Instead of just using one stick for an axle, since that middle wheel only use it to stay positioned, it doesn't need to take any of the stress of the power transmitted to it. All you need to do, is use that gear's holes in the outer rim to connect to whatever you are spinning to make it stronger and let the gears connecting to it take that stress instead of the main axle. I know what I'm saying isn't really clear... I'm having trouble trying to figure out how to explain it. I could draw an example... But I think the modification I have in mind could make this about 2 to 4 times more resistant to breaking down. A machine is only as strong as its weakest part.
That and doubling up the gears on their interlocking points, instead of one, use two gears every time they meet, way less likely to slip or break off teeth
Put 2 opposite of eachother, connected to a diff. Your power will double, and make up for whichever assembly has the first failing motor. Then, feed it into the greatest reduction train that you can fit between the two enclosures. Have an output at a 90 degree angle. Build 3 more, and have them all feed into the same reduction gear. That would be a start. I'll buy Lego stocks in the meantime 😆
Nice video, I did the math and it looks to be a 1:81 gear reduction and 22,036 rpm (if the motors are running at their full speed of 272 rpm) The super motor has a gearing ratio of 3:1 with 91 rpm.
More gears on a single axle! That will help your axle twisting issue as the forces will be more evenly distributed on said axle, since it has more contact points.
You should try putting the motors in front of each other so they turn the same axis. Also try to reduce the number of gears to reduce friction power loss.
Its correct to say this is powerful for a lego motor, but it needs to ratio for more speed or get a steel lego axel if it can't handle the torque to stall the motor
fantastic build. If you split the load by having two spools, it may help. Or using a pulley? Anyway great to watch, love the power switch idea, very cool 👍🍺🇬🇧
I think if you were to redo it with with those custom metal axles you could really push the motor to it’s limits. You should also maximise torque over speed by making the gear transfer multi-level, where each gear transfers to a bigger gear, then a smaller gear on that same axle transfers to a bigger gear. It’ll allow you to drive way more with the motor
One way to strengthen the axle maybe would've been to attatch lego peice 4185 straight to the cog, then run axles through all the holes and use these along the entire thing, this would give a VERY strong axle that would be highly unlikely to break
Not exactly. Electric motors make more torque the closer you get to 0 rpms with a given current input. Basically, the more load on the motor, the more powerful it gets. If a motor stalls, max torque has been reached and is acting on the load. It's why electric cars are so quick off the line but top out at lower speeds. This concept isn't really relevant to what he's doing, but it's still interesting.
@@jacobg5122 I'm not talking about the power of a motor, but the rotational speed. If you use gears to decrease the speed of output, then yes there is more torque, but less speed. Vice versa is the same, use gears for higher output speed means less torque.
Actually the strongest LEGO motor is the one on the life size Bugatti Chiron that the LEGO technic team built. That motor was able to move the entire car on its own at a considerable speed. Truly amazing
As an engineer, I can give a couple of tips: 1. Use gears connected in parallel on the same axis. This will increase the strength several times. 2.Under high load, the axles also bend. You can use the holes in the gear to connect it to the load. 3.Reduce the load on the intermediate gears. Add gears and gearboxes separately for each engine. Exclude all gears connecting the motors together except the central one. 4. Reduce the speed in favor of power - increase the gear ratio with a multi-level gearbox, similar to the one at the end of the video. I'm sorry if I made a mistake in words - I'm an engineer, not a linguist.
The weak link will always be parts such as the flimsy plastic axles. You can always sacrifice speed for torque, which you had to ask an engineer about, for some reason.
Brick experiments has lifted 200 pounds with a single motor. The main issue you ran into was no additional gearing/tackle, and of course just the lego axels having limited strength. It's a good start and I'd love to see your motor power things once you have a better output system
Yup, I found it so funny when he was saying he made the strongest motor, while I was thinking of the time Brick Experiments lifted an entire rock
@@mickys8065 if you want to be pedantic his motor is stronger, it's just he did nothing to show it's potential. Also tbf, it's far from the strongest as there is a straight up lego car motor so..... idk, didn't wanna bully the man in his own comment section. But also, nowhere near close to the strongest
and that was whit the smaller engine
@@lordderppington4694 exactly, brick experiments just had a better gearbox, not motor
Not only that, he also lifted 226 Kilograms (in theory)
Should I make 3 more motors and build something rideable??!
HECK YEAH that would be sweet!!! As long as it had some flames on it
That would be cool!😎
Yes!!!
Yas
Someone did! There is a bugatti just from lego, its also powered by lego motors
As an engineer I can tell you: with one of these you can't move a car
But if you build 2 of these motors they could actually move you in a small rideable thing like a go cart.
Lego built a full size driveable Bugatti Chiron, they used 1.500 L-Motors which produces a torque of 50-74 Newtonmetres.
Check My youtube built a rideable boat with outboard motors
Damn, just stock or did u overvolt the motors?
@@research_ai8740 I didn't do anything 😂
Lego technic itself did this. And no, they didn't overvoltage it. Their goal was to nearly only use stock Lego parts
I like the math behind thst
@@JohnDeere2025 yes
Who’s gonna tell him that no matter how strong a motor is, you can always outperform it using gear ratios, leverage and pulleys?
Lets just let him believe, ok?
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Say youve got two motors, one of which puts out 50lbs-ft of torque at 1000rpm, and the other puts out 100lbs-ft of torque at 1000rpm. While, yes, you can hook up the first motor to a 2:1 gearset to make it put out the same amount of torque as the second, itll also be half the speed. Same torque, half the speed, half the ability to do work.
@@Kevin-dt9xm ok but here what was important wasnt the amount of work done over time aka power, it was the amount of work aka torque
@@sigmamale4147 my point is, with a more powerful motor, you can have the same amount of torque, but at higher speeds. Two motors lifting the same weight, the more powerful one is gonna lift it faster.
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The motor can lift 20 lbs, and I cannot curl a 20lb dumbbell with my left arm. I'd say this machine has *superhuman* strength.
@@AN0841 ok buddy
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@Brawl stars Then you’re weak.
Yes, build three more! In a sense, you've basically combined all the torque from each motor. I think it's safe to bet that it's even stronger than the metal motors you find in RC toys
Not at all. Metal beats plastic
@@jeeperzcreeperzz what if you use metal gears and axles
Make 8 and copy what you did inside of machine to make 9 and a half times the torque because you made the machine bigger and used the 8 machines to get 9 and a half torque. hope it makes sense
@@gachaiscool7573 honestly that makes zero sense..
@@cheezywheezy526 then it's no longer fully lego
LEGO Technic team actually did make a car, a Bugatti Chiron once with LEGO and even with a powerful LEGO motor engine, the same principle as here. This is really mind-blowing. #LEGOtechnic
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@@parkerkrakowiak2990 no🙄🤣
Yeah when I heard him say the strongest lego motors I couldn't help but think of that thing. Had over 2000 lego motors in it.
@@MarcSteen so the most powerful motor is the balance between more motors more batteries and less mechanical friction? I thought there’s some design that makes a single motor more effective
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5:17 "its a bit sturdier its quite a bit larger" got me laughing in the central square
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I can’t wait for this to start too!
I wonder if there's a point where the friction caused by extra gears counteracts the torque created by extra motors? Like if there's an upper limit on how much you can get out of Lego motors
yes there is a limit, if you tried putting it through a single axel the axel isn't actually that strong and would fail
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Wtf did he say..
@@danielvillegas1057 Does too many gears become too resistant for motor to rotate?
I tried using baby talk in this but I just couldn't do it.
Lubricating the gears helps a lot
I have a feeling that this will be Riley's only creation that serves as an powerful alternative to other motors.
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Brick Experiment Channel does a lot of Lego gear ratios. He's got metal axles that he uses sometimes because they don't bend and twist as easily. You could check those out
He did a video twisting one of those :P
@@Hoggaforfan I know, I was super impressed that he was able to! I assume of it was used in this scenario then it wouldn't bend
he also lifted a 200 pounds rock with a single motor.
@@pleeppants1712 Yup and it exceeds more at theoretical 220 kg more than 440lb
i love when you look at your camera screen
A thoughtful commentary on the wonders, but also the dangers, of technological progress. When he said "it's L-motoring time," I cried. The apocalyptic ending was fearsome. Truly one of the films of all time.
@bobot Like Disney, I will milk Marvel franchises until they're dustier than the inside of my wallet.
YES! make a CAR using four of those on each wheel! I think it would work!!
Yeah. I hope he will do that
Tip, you can drastically decrease chances of stripping your gears, just by adding more contact area between any connected set of gears. How can you do this? By using multiple of the same sized gears on the same axle. The more gears you add, the more torque they can handle. Basically just take however many gears you want and pair them up in the same way you would connect 1 gear pair. Im high right now but i have a masters in engineering, i just hope u understand what i mean😂
I understood.
i feel you homie
makes complete sense friend
You could literally do the same thing with 1 Lego motor. You would just need a high torque compounded gear ratio, similar to what you have done at 8:03 but the opposite way around. But what you did is not completely useless because just making a very high torque gear ratio would make the last gear spin very slowly, you made the last gear spinning quickly while still having a lot of torque.
So... you could not do the same thing with 1 lego motor. You just contradicted yourself. Yeah, you can make an arbitrary amount of torque using even the tiniest motor using gearsets, but the advantage to having all 8 motors is that for a given amount of output torque, you have 8 times the speed, as compared to 1 motor putting out the same torque.
his favourite expression: ughh
I like that you pixeled the motor in the Intro, but showed it already in the thumbnail
You can definitely make a viable vehicle motor from these, the issue is the output shaft is so small and flimsy it would just break or twist before it could move anything. If you can find a way to make a thicker sturdier shaft, it will hold up to more torque.
yeah nobody wants a small and flimsy shaft, i always want my shafts thick and sturdy
You can buy aluminium or steel techniq shafts
8:28 assuming each motor is running at 300 rpm, the output is 8100 rpm
300 x 1/5 x 40/24 = 100 (rpm of the “mega” motor)
100 x 3/1 x 3/1 x 3/1 x 3/1 = 8,100 (final speed)
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If you can get your hands on a dead M-motor, open it up and replace the motor core with a motor purpose-made to modify a flywheel dart blaster, like an Out of Darts Kraken; it should fit. Just need to power it with a separate 12-volt 28-amp or more supply. There are power supplies made for LED projects that output 12 volts at up to 30 amps...
now you have to make that rideable car
Besides being really powerful, that motor looks pretty cool as well! Can't wait to see if you make a rideable thing with it.
No matter how strong you make the motor the weak point is the output shaft. There is a limit in the torque it can handle...
Yep, so you need to make the last bits out of thicker metal...
@@MrBlaDiBla68 or use a large gear as the last output gear, and you can have multiple shafts coming out of the gear so wouldn’t be using only one, but up to five shafts to handle the torque
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Maybe make 4 more And combine THEM into a much bigger motor with (hypothetically) more power
2:34 looking the motors and the gears rotating is so satisfying
I can imagine just replacing an existing car engine with a whole bunch of these things
the lego technic team did. they built a full scale bugatti chiron that had a fully lego motor
they did, lego made a bugatti chiron with lego moters :D
@@erickstrainworld5488 yea they had like 500 lego motors
Instead of just using one stick for an axle, since that middle wheel only use it to stay positioned, it doesn't need to take any of the stress of the power transmitted to it. All you need to do, is use that gear's holes in the outer rim to connect to whatever you are spinning to make it stronger and let the gears connecting to it take that stress instead of the main axle. I know what I'm saying isn't really clear... I'm having trouble trying to figure out how to explain it. I could draw an example... But I think the modification I have in mind could make this about 2 to 4 times more resistant to breaking down.
A machine is only as strong as its weakest part.
That and doubling up the gears on their interlocking points, instead of one, use two gears every time they meet, way less likely to slip or break off teeth
Put 2 opposite of eachother, connected to a diff. Your power will double, and make up for whichever assembly has the first failing motor.
Then, feed it into the greatest reduction train that you can fit between the two enclosures. Have an output at a 90 degree angle. Build 3 more, and have them all feed into the same reduction gear.
That would be a start. I'll buy Lego stocks in the meantime 😆
You should rebuild this using all metal Lego axels and gears
I love on the Lego thing for the steps one and two and stuff they’re all the clicks
It is amazing to see that this video make lot of views! Congratulations! I make lego stop motion . You can see it .
Thanks! I have seen it! Killer thumbnails.
Nice video, I did the math and it looks to be a 1:81 gear reduction and 22,036 rpm (if the motors are running at their full speed of 272 rpm) The super motor has a gearing ratio of 3:1 with 91 rpm.
More gears on a single axle! That will help your axle twisting issue as the forces will be more evenly distributed on said axle, since it has more contact points.
That fixed my Battlebot, so it definitely would work.
what a speedy lego motor.
Smoke and flames coming out of your head was a nice touch!
After calling your engineer friend, his knowledge gave it enough power to easily destroy the axle that held the gear through a torsion failure. Nice
I’m not sure how hard it would be but I would love to see around four of these put together to make a Lego engine for a functional Lego car
Won't be as powerful as the Bugatti, Lego made. It had 200~ motors in it
Fr I was Js thinking that
But it’s still cool
6:10 this sounds like a high powered drone
I recommend you get aluminum axels on the internet or whatever so they would not ruin the result
Wow l think you should make another super strong motor with metal Lego axels and 16 motors
What did that poor globe ever do to you? I thought the globe had already established it's insane dominion.
Would love to see a tutorial on how to make the finished motor!
You should try putting the motors in front of each other so they turn the same axis. Also try to reduce the number of gears to reduce friction power loss.
My hypothesis: it won’t be fast, but it the torque will be multiplied by the amount of motors
Its correct to say this is powerful for a lego motor, but it needs to ratio for more speed or get a steel lego axel if it can't handle the torque to stall the motor
A good test of the force it gives is to attach a lever and have it push a scale
fantastic build. If you split the load by having two spools, it may help. Or using a pulley? Anyway great to watch, love the power switch idea, very cool 👍🍺🇬🇧
The main problem with this motor is just what it is mostly made of, use iron or heck, even steel and its strength will increase by a lot more
So now you should combine this motor as a little one of next hight system, it will be cool if you designed it in the same way :3
You should make 3 more then Connect them up to make a really strong Lego Motor
SPEED AND POWER!!!
I think if you were to redo it with with those custom metal axles you could really push the motor to it’s limits. You should also maximise torque over speed by making the gear transfer multi-level, where each gear transfers to a bigger gear, then a smaller gear on that same axle transfers to a bigger gear. It’ll allow you to drive way more with the motor
One way to strengthen the axle maybe would've been to attatch lego peice 4185 straight to the cog, then run axles through all the holes and use these along the entire thing, this would give a VERY strong axle that would be highly unlikely to break
You should do a video that you use this and build a mini car with it
Congrats at 500.000 subs!
I wish I had the parts to build that motor because i'm always building things and my motor is not strong enough!
I can relate this one
You don't increase power by going down in RPM but increasing torque. Power will be the same, always. Unless you put in more powerful motors.
Not exactly. Electric motors make more torque the closer you get to 0 rpms with a given current input. Basically, the more load on the motor, the more powerful it gets. If a motor stalls, max torque has been reached and is acting on the load. It's why electric cars are so quick off the line but top out at lower speeds. This concept isn't really relevant to what he's doing, but it's still interesting.
@@jacobg5122 I'm not talking about the power of a motor, but the rotational speed. If you use gears to decrease the speed of output, then yes there is more torque, but less speed. Vice versa is the same, use gears for higher output speed means less torque.
yes indeed you definitely built the strongest motor it's not 100 lb but 20 lb is very successful this is a very strong machine!
Thanks for the idea with the 100lbs!! You ROCK!
Actually the strongest LEGO motor is the one on the life size Bugatti Chiron that the LEGO technic team built. That motor was able to move the entire car on its own at a considerable speed. Truly amazing
Dude, you need to use the extra four holes in the last turning gear if you want to use the force that is beyond the main-axle. For the next video
THAT THING GOT SOME TORQUE
Me when i am bored be like :
same!
Yep 😮
guy literally building lego says dont do this at home
As an engineer, I can give a couple of tips:
1. Use gears connected in parallel on the same axis. This will increase the strength several times.
2.Under high load, the axles also bend. You can use the holes in the gear to connect it to the load.
3.Reduce the load on the intermediate gears. Add gears and gearboxes separately for each engine. Exclude all gears connecting the motors together except the central one.
4. Reduce the speed in favor of power - increase the gear ratio with a multi-level gearbox, similar to the one at the end of the video.
I'm sorry if I made a mistake in words - I'm an engineer, not a linguist.
5:48 when you made that you could make a drill at the top and put your hand inside
if only there was a lego clickbait remover machine!
"I made a strong motor pack out of lego"
TRY TO POWER A CAR!
4:03 This is basic knowledge...🤦♂️
Something the average viewer does not know
Ikr
Make 8 more of these and do the same think like with the 8 little ones to make the ultimate lego motor
I love how does back bro drag music in the background lol
You sould make 1 more of those motors and make a lego rc plane
“A motor to surpass lego durability”
This is sick next try making a giant Lego clock
Now make more and make a working car with it
I think you should replace some of the Lego axels with metal axels so the axels are stronger and harder to bend
That is smart 🧠
now build 8 of these and combine them to an even bigger motor
"What is it doing? It's learning!" Great vid ;-) !
I know it would technically be lego anymore but you could make the axel out of metal instead so it can actually hold the weight
WOW amazing video! You inspired me to make lego videos. It would be awesome if you could let me know what you think of them. Great work!
9:32 MADE IN HEAVEN🗣️🔥🗣️🔥🗣️
Imagine using this in a Lego technic car
Make 3 more and then do the same thing with them as you did with the normal lego motors.
Bro be making videos at 1 in the morning for us! I’m really late.
That would be so cool, if you could make a rival lego car.If you made three more those that would be super cool
you are the lego boss.
I wonder how he got all of his Legos🤨🤨🤨
Insane!
The weak link will always be parts such as the flimsy plastic axles. You can always sacrifice speed for torque, which you had to ask an engineer about, for some reason.
you should make it dubble the length lik to uf this muduls
What's next, making a life size 100% lego go-cart?
You should make a belt sander from lego
POV:your an engineer and your addicted to lego: