Ok Rachel and Kurt both made me mad here. Kurt for denying that bisexuality is real. It doesn’t matter whether Blaine turned out to be gay or not, Kurt insisted time and time again that “bisexual” was just a phase or a label for closeted gay guys. That was incredibly fcking biphobic and as a bisexual myself, he and Santana both made me really mad at some points during the show. Rachel for going after Blaine when she knew about her friend’s feelings for him. No matter what gender they are, going after people you KNOW your friend likes is just absolutely terrible. Like... give them a shot first and if they get rejected, if you and the person have feelings for each other then go for it, but.... give your friend some space to pursue things with them. Also, Rachel thinking she can turn a gay guy “straight” because of one drunken kiss REALLY sets me off
To be fair, Blaine does call him out on it, plus the episode never says Kurt is in the right for thinking this way. And I think Kurt’s biphobia came from a place of irrationality and jealousy rather than pure hatred.
For real ! I just wished they made Blaine turn out bisexual and not dating either of them ! I mean i love both Klaine and RachelxBlaine but omg did Kurt’s words hurt (I’m bisexual) and how Rachel peeved the heck out of me in this scene-
Get mad at the writers and Ryan Murphy, I'm sure that part was fixed in the script and their white gay mentality doesn't allow them to process other sexual orientations.
Yes one of the very reasons I didn't like this episode, not only was Rachel selfish for asking Blaine out when she knew Kurt had feelings for him but the amount of biphobia in this episode was overwhelming!
But didn't Kurt already like Blaine before her? Rachel even says "I know you have feelings for her" and that was the issue! It bothered me that Rachel would make out with her best friend's crush, go on a date with him and tell him "Well I'm doing you a favor! I'm sure he isn't actually gay!" like that's not the point...?? wtf
What makes it worse is that 10 episodes prior to this Rachel sympathizes with Kurt over how lonely he is and how it must suck to have these urges but not be able to express them, which was the whole reason they said happy days are here again/get happy.
Its funny how in season 1 Rachel told Kurt he could never get Finn because he wasn’t a girl and now in season 2 the roles are reversed and Blaine’s gay so Rachel can’t be with him.
Why? When it's about someone who is gay it's okay to "turn them straight", but when the person is straight it's "forcing them to be gay, creepy and predatory". Got it.
Stephanie Ka Doesn’t matter. There were nicer ways to get his point across, not only that but during the arc he was being brutally bi-phobic and saying things that allude to bisexuality not being real. His attitude in this was generally awful, no matter who was right or wrong
Hush He was still rude. It doesn’t have to be one or the other, both of them can be assholes in this scene. Rachel was ignoring Kurt’s feelings and Kurt was saying bisexuality isn’t real and making fun of Rachel and insulting her.
QwertCovers I think Rachel in the wrong here she knew how much Kurt really liked him but she stepped over her boundaries as always so get what she wants
I understand that and honestly Kurt was wrong that time too, but keep in mind that when that scene happened in season 1, Kurt and Rachel hated each other and by season two they were at least close friends, considering that a few episodes prior they were having a sleepover and talking about Kurt's feelings for Blaine. Had this been written in season one I wouldn't be as mad with Rachel as I was, but the fact that we were meant to think that Rachel would do that to her friends? I didn't like that
Sahida Contraire AND 10 episodes prior to this Rachel sympathized with Kurt and that was the whole reason they sang Happy days are here again/get happy. She knew he was lonely, she knew he liked Blaine, She was close friends with Kurt and she still pursued him.
It’s kinda fucked up of Rachel to even pursue Blaine, to begin with... HE’S ONE OF HER BEST FRIENDS! Probably the best friend she’ll ever have - that she does NOT deserve. If I knew one of my friends had strong feelings for someone, I would back off that person. Your partners may come and go, until you find the one, but you’ll only have so many people you can truly trust and call your friends. I just get tired of Kurt always being so caring and considerate towards Rachel, and her feelings, only to have Rachel be so shitty towards him. Mercedes should’ve had more scenes with Kurt after they graduated. I totally ship Kurtcedes. Mercedes was a far better friend to Kurt, than Rachel ever was, throughout the whole show. She’s the one who deserves an awesome friend, like Kurt, since she was such actually a good person. Sorry, but one thing I hated was seeing Kurt give so much... while Rachel gave very little. The selfishness and double standards have been REAL with them two.
This is why I don’t like Rachel. 10 episodes prior to this Rachel sympathized with Kurt in how lonely he is, she knew Kurt liked him yet she still pursued him. She’s just not a good friend.
@@samsticka I more meant cus a hangover basically calls for a huge headache and I would tell everyone to shut up (which has happened multiple times) because hangovers suck
Why all they clean up is some random cups? lol This is definitely not like an after-party clean up looks like. First of all, there would be a lot of food... like a LOT of it all over the place. And to clean up all that dirt from the food, and other dirt... then comes the overall mess, like random things all around. This scene is not accurate at all, it looks like they are cleaning after a party of 10 yo girls, lmao
Ok Rachel and Kurt both made me mad here.
Kurt for denying that bisexuality is real. It doesn’t matter whether Blaine turned out to be gay or not, Kurt insisted time and time again that “bisexual” was just a phase or a label for closeted gay guys. That was incredibly fcking biphobic and as a bisexual myself, he and Santana both made me really mad at some points during the show.
Rachel for going after Blaine when she knew about her friend’s feelings for him. No matter what gender they are, going after people you KNOW your friend likes is just absolutely terrible. Like... give them a shot first and if they get rejected, if you and the person have feelings for each other then go for it, but.... give your friend some space to pursue things with them.
Also, Rachel thinking she can turn a gay guy “straight” because of one drunken kiss REALLY sets me off
To be fair, Blaine does call him out on it, plus the episode never says Kurt is in the right for thinking this way. And I think Kurt’s biphobia came from a place of irrationality and jealousy rather than pure hatred.
For real ! I just wished they made Blaine turn out bisexual and not dating either of them ! I mean i love both Klaine and RachelxBlaine but omg did Kurt’s words hurt (I’m bisexual) and how Rachel peeved the heck out of me in this scene-
You forget that she’s a sociopath
@@loupotter-black335 in this case I guess Kurt will never talk to them both anymore
Get mad at the writers and Ryan Murphy, I'm sure that part was fixed in the script and their white gay mentality doesn't allow them to process other sexual orientations.
Love how they don't even think that he might be bi LMAO... The amount of biphobia..
And then they had Kurt say that bisexuals are just gay and in the closet 🤦♀️🤬
Yes one of the very reasons I didn't like this episode, not only was Rachel selfish for asking Blaine out when she knew Kurt had feelings for him but the amount of biphobia in this episode was overwhelming!
Ugh this was 12 years ago get over it
@@harmony9690 and those lines come from the creators Ryan Muprhy who is a white gay man
@@WishfulThinking22 no.
But didn't Kurt already like Blaine before her? Rachel even says "I know you have feelings for her" and that was the issue! It bothered me that Rachel would make out with her best friend's crush, go on a date with him and tell him "Well I'm doing you a favor! I'm sure he isn't actually gay!" like that's not the point...?? wtf
What makes it worse is that 10 episodes prior to this Rachel sympathizes with Kurt over how lonely he is and how it must suck to have these urges but not be able to express them, which was the whole reason they said happy days are here again/get happy.
The line “and if he turns out not to be gay, well, then I guess I will have done you a favor.” is so biphobic.
Its funny how in season 1 Rachel told Kurt he could never get Finn because he wasn’t a girl and now in season 2 the roles are reversed and Blaine’s gay so Rachel can’t be with him.
i LOVE Rachel outfit here
He’s right tho
Yeah
1:00 oho no the memories oho lord I got that image out of my head.
love this
Well, at least Rachel's plan isn't as messed up as Kurt's plan in season 1 when he had a crush on Finn
Why? When it's about someone who is gay it's okay to "turn them straight", but when the person is straight it's "forcing them to be gay, creepy and predatory". Got it.
Awesome
Love it
Okay I get that people hate Rachel and all, but Kurt was just being a jerk in this scene
But he was right so ... 🤷🏾♀️
No Rachel’s the jerk in this scene
Stephanie Ka Doesn’t matter. There were nicer ways to get his point across, not only that but during the arc he was being brutally bi-phobic and saying things that allude to bisexuality not being real. His attitude in this was generally awful, no matter who was right or wrong
Hush He was still rude. It doesn’t have to be one or the other, both of them can be assholes in this scene. Rachel was ignoring Kurt’s feelings and Kurt was saying bisexuality isn’t real and making fun of Rachel and insulting her.
QwertCovers I think Rachel in the wrong here she knew how much Kurt really liked him but she stepped over her boundaries as always so get what she wants
Ok but when Kurt had a crush on Finn when Rachel had a crush on him, Kurt didnt back down so why should Rachel do the same about Blaine
Exactly.
I understand that and honestly Kurt was wrong that time too, but keep in mind that when that scene happened in season 1, Kurt and Rachel hated each other and by season two they were at least close friends, considering that a few episodes prior they were having a sleepover and talking about Kurt's feelings for Blaine. Had this been written in season one I wouldn't be as mad with Rachel as I was, but the fact that we were meant to think that Rachel would do that to her friends? I didn't like that
Sahida Contraire AND 10 episodes prior to this Rachel sympathized with Kurt and that was the whole reason they sang Happy days are here again/get happy. She knew he was lonely, she knew he liked Blaine, She was close friends with Kurt and she still pursued him.
Exactly
@@villedart970 Rachel never hated Kurt. She actually thought they were friends.
Oh damn
It’s kinda fucked up of Rachel to even pursue Blaine, to begin with... HE’S ONE OF HER BEST FRIENDS! Probably the best friend she’ll ever have - that she does NOT deserve. If I knew one of my friends had strong feelings for someone, I would back off that person. Your partners may come and go, until you find the one, but you’ll only have so many people you can truly trust and call your friends. I just get tired of Kurt always being so caring and considerate towards Rachel, and her feelings, only to have Rachel be so shitty towards him. Mercedes should’ve had more scenes with Kurt after they graduated. I totally ship Kurtcedes. Mercedes was a far better friend to Kurt, than Rachel ever was, throughout the whole show. She’s the one who deserves an awesome friend, like Kurt, since she was such actually a good person. Sorry, but one thing I hated was seeing Kurt give so much... while Rachel gave very little. The selfishness and double standards have been REAL with them two.
This is why I don’t like Rachel. 10 episodes prior to this Rachel sympathized with Kurt in how lonely he is, she knew Kurt liked him yet she still pursued him. She’s just not a good friend.
Is nobody going to talk about brittanys bra in the bacground!!!!! 😂😂😂 Lmao
They're not hungover.
I'd be sitting there telling everyone to shut up
@@ebsii0687 Ummm... I think you replied to the wrong message.
@@samsticka I more meant cus a hangover basically calls for a huge headache and I would tell everyone to shut up (which has happened multiple times) because hangovers suck
Considering it's the day after
Well Kurt didn’t drink, but yh not sure about Rachel
Why all they clean up is some random cups? lol This is definitely not like an after-party clean up looks like. First of all, there would be a lot of food... like a LOT of it all over the place. And to clean up all that dirt from the food, and other dirt... then comes the overall mess, like random things all around. This scene is not accurate at all, it looks like they are cleaning after a party of 10 yo girls, lmao