ARCHERO: AVOID THESE ABILITY MISTAKES! | DO NOT Stack Multishot & Front Arrow + Much More!
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I hope this brings some insight on why you shouldn't stack the best abilities in Archero: Multishot and Front Arrow as well as some other ability mistakes you could be doing if running the Tornado.
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IMPORTANT PLEASE READ BEFORE COMMENTNG: It seems that the Wiki page information is a little outdated and the wording is a bit off. In regards to Ricochet's damage with Tornado, I meant reduced to, not reduced by, I used the Wiki wording without thinking, sorry about that! The Wiki states it is 30% however, in-game testing shows that it is 38% which makes the numbers 327 - 125 - 48 (still weaker than just using the Tornado as it is, doesn't change the end conclusion.)
I forgot to add that a benefit of picking up Ricochet regardless of what weapon you're using is spreading the elemental damage around to other enemies but imo, I don't pick up Ricochet to spread elemental damage as that is not my priority (my 2 cents.)
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I spent 3 days doing the math for this one. It was very tiring but I think I got it.
Archero numbers are so inconsistent sometimes... I hope you enjoy it! Taranis will be out soon but I think I might take a small few day break from the numbers game for a bit. Uploading a different video tomorrow!
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In ricochet, you said "the damage is reduced BY 30%" . it should be 229 then 160. And by "feel", i think it is more accurate. When using ricochet, i dont feel like my damage is reduced thay much (like you did in your computation which is 70% damage reduction).
I hope to clarify this. Thanks
@@melviccorate6203 Oh sorry, I meant reduced TO 30% not BY 30%, I used the Wiki wording without thinking lol. But I did some further in-game testing and the calculation percentage is actually 38 percent not 30. I think the Wiki Page for Archero is a little outdated and Ricochet actually received a buff.
This means 327 to 125 to 48 which is still weaker than the initial return damage. If you feel that it feels good for you, that's great but the numbers show that it is actually weaker. For me personally, I feel it which is why I never pick up Ricochet with Tornado especially if the reason I pick up Tornado is the OP return damage!
I hate math thanks teeds
@@SuperTeeds ohhh. I see. I'd better play rn and test it myself. Hahaha
Ps
Sorry for the confusion. I use death scythe. And i feel that the damage is not reduced by 70%. Well, at the end of the day (esp as an engineer) number is much more reliable than "feel"
Pps
Im waiting for your ch8 guide. I just got lucky once and reach floor 33. But that's it. I cant do it again 😂😂😂😂
@@melviccorate6203 No worries, I'm also a Death Scythe main and Ricochet is VERY worth it on the Death Scythe, this is only speaking about the Tornado. Ricochet is fine everywhere else. The Tornado already has reduced damage where it's 80% of the base damage and the Death Scythe has 145% damage. Massive difference! :) Coming out soon hopefully haha
“3 front arrows is very hard to hit with all 3” Me: *Laughs In Stalker Staff Main*
Why would you use 3 front arrows for staff you monster
Me too
Exactly
...but the damage reduction to all arrows! You'd do much more damage with only one or no additional front arrows and getting diagonal arrows instead.
@@BeaDSM I said the same thing until I got triple front arrows today. It's ridiculous.
recently i had bouncy wall, front arrow, mutlishot, 2 diag, 2 rear, 1 side and tornado. COULDNT SEE A THING
Dream combo
WUUL _ Stalker staff with bouncy walls, ricochet, piercing shot, stacked multi shot, 3x attack speed major, any number of diagonal or side arrows, and maybe some added death bomb effects. Decimates a stage within seconds.
Yeah, it works great until you find enemies that don't die immediately, and then you can't dodge their shots at all.
Me too
I did too but It was easier
Multi shot and ricochet combo is the best... along with bouncy wall and piercing shot 👍🏾
Ziz Arthur that’s what I was wandering. Does piercing shot work well with ricochet?
Doru Cucuietu I cant comment on the stats but the “arrow” will pass through the last enemy and then rebound back if there is a wall.
I like bouncy wall with the backwards arrow as this tends to shoot it forward aswell. Although bouncy wall is one of the last abilities I pick up usually around level 7,8,9,10
Although it will ricochet first rather than pierce if that makes sense. Will only pierce if there is no nearby enemy to ricochet to
Unless your using the tornado
Omg yes
I downloaded this game yesterday and now this just "randomly" showes up in my recomended list.....big brother is at it again.
Same!
If you clicked on an Archero ad from UA-cam then of course they're going to start recommending you the videos for the ad you clicked on.
Playstore and UA-cam both are google services. All user data sync to between them.
Yeah it’s getting bad
lol i learned about having 3 front arrows the hard way 💀
I thought it looked cool so I would always get it.
I did the same exact thing brother
Same here
Me too
What do you mean?
I literally use all those abilities in the thumbnail lol. I use the staff for magic because they follow the target.
Tbh I've never actually knew damage was reduced when picking multi shot or front arrow, it just felt kinda normal in a way
This is exactly the channel I’m looking for. I just downloaded this game and can’t put it down. Subbed. Thanks
I know right, downloaded it after playing it in an advert can't put it down now!
Love the quick paced pick up & play, find my self playing it when ever I can even if it's just one room then shut it down, open up & off you go again. 🏹🎯
Why did this got recommended to me just now? It's honestly so funny hearing teeds talking about something completely different than pokemon unite
Lmao same
I mean , damn .... Most people just play and try to having fun with this game , but she put alot of notron and calculate on this.
And this video was helpful , thank you very much :)
The game is quite simple with minor complications.
But yeah understanding the basic complications helps you to go far.
Wtf, so stacking them reduce the damage? I thought the damage multiply because the increase of arrow and the stat stays the same, got a roadblock on chapter 3
I just discovered a great strategy for clearing levels that are filled with enemies. You need to get shadow clone, ricochet, and front arrow or multishot. The ricochet and multishot create many more chances for the shadow clones to spawn and they're also able to go into areas that are to dangerous for you to go.
I didn't know that those counted, thank you!! That's especially good with Meowgic, as when you level him up you have a chance to reviving from one of his shadow cats!
Hello past Teeds.
Them: Don’t grab multiple multi shots!
Me: Haha stalker staff go BRRRRRR.
This is the wholesome, nerdy niche things that really makes me appreciate this community💛
Why is this recommended after 2 years? lol
About the multi arrows, I once got 2 multi, with a lot of as, freeze, bouncy and a few more arores
I basically permafreezed anyone :D
So even if mathematically you do less dmg, some combos can still be more effective (like very low dmg but hella as and headshot)
It depends on how you want to play, I play berserker lol
@@joualavedra1208 it's a 10 month old comment xD
multishot, bouncy walls, ricochet and diagonal arrows is the mob melta
Couldn't see a shit
I personally use crossbow so bouncy wall isn't essential but crit master with high level crossbow can do 7,000+ damage and that is a rare Gale Force.. I can only imagine an Epic one
Edit: Per shot btw that is with no multishot so with multishot it is pretty OP to say the least
@@Illegal0Insanity I've got an epic one. I've hit 11k before.
That one time I wanted to see how low my HP can go so I took the extra life and ended up with 1 hp 👁️👄👁️
This was teeds wow now she is talking about unite
Bruh crazy to find out you used to do archero content
Poison-Freeze Arrows and circles is OP as heck. Got me through most of the dungeon I’ve played.
Why is your voice deeper than in New videos?
wtf, this feels like this was made in an alternate universe holy shit. i never knew teeds did archero content before unite
I just completed a run where I had the purple staff with these powers: Multiple arrow x 2, front arrow, diagonal arrow, side arrow, bouncy walls and piercing. I gotta tell it was completely hilarious, my whole screen was full of orbs from the staff, i couldn't see a single enemy and the just stood still and cleared rooms for like 2-3 seconds 🤣
I always choose HP Boost and Circles as much as possible. If neither are available then attack increase or attack speed
My favorite combos is high speed stats. multi shot. ricochet, and the two clones shadow and the bat one 👌
Thanks for the information! It literally annoys me so much that you don’t get this kind of information in the game! They should make a weapon guide, pet guide, upgrade guide and a enemy guide in the game.
Sounds pretty boring tbh.
Idiotic idea
This was recommended to me today???
I actually thought that she just suddenly changed games hahahahahha
lol for me those are a must take. (Ricochet, Bouncy wall, front arrow, diagonal arrow etc.)
The mobs suffer when I enter the arena
If you got lucky like me and got 4multushot and 5 front Arrow with tornado mustakes you will literally make the map Disappears by your shots 😂😂but my damage was so weak I barely killed 3 5 enemies before I die but it was fun
I always try to use these together: multi shot, attack speed, holiness or electricity, piercing, speed, ricochet, front arrows, rear arrows, and diagonal arrows, bouncy walls, and it is so op. I literally just have to stand still in boss stages and let loose and I can almost instantly kill bosses. This is also great for spiders and snakes and other mobs like that.
love watching your guides more than playing on my own👶🏻
haha aww, thank you
I'm fond of using the tornado but when I finished stage 8 and started doin stage 9 it gets harder because of the tankier mobs, thats why I switched to death scythe. I also have similar observations with the tornado weap tho it has its pros and cons but the most important thing for me is to enjoy the game. Really appreciate your vids keep it up!
I agree, for me scythe fits stage 9 perfectly
You know, I fuckin love how invasive google is. I downloaded this game a day ago and already despite never having looked at the game before, ever, I got recommended media for the game on my UA-cam account.
Fuck you Google.
Hi SuperTeeds, I hope you are well! From my experiment, if you use meowgik, the cat damage is also reduced, due to the reduction of your base damage. I hope you can mention that in your future videos.
Cat damage are reduced by around 25% when picked front arrow +1.
Also from your accent, I assume you are Australian?
I'm not even playing this game, but your explanation is so good it feels like I'm already become proplayer
the question is, who tf build tornado?
SuperTeeds: do not pick multi shot multiple times
Me with 3 diagonal arrows 1 side arrow 3 frond arrow and 3 multi shot bouncy wall
And stalker staff: oh no
Don’t usually comment just wanted to let you know I love your smite & archero content. Even though i played smite for 4 years an those vids don’t help often( even though I watch the ones about characters i like) I just started archero and these vids help a lot
Aw, that means a lot to me. Thank you!
4 years!?
CarLITTo ! Yeah ik
Multiple multi- arrows coupled with a couple attack speed upgrades has another benefit. You can essentially stun lock even a boss with any weapon when you hit fast enough.
Even if your shots are weaker... if the boss can't even return fire then it's a win.
Your voice is very destructively odd. It’s weirdly good but also mesmerizing. Thanks for the clip though.
it's sexy and comforting.
nzn No. it’s strange and squeaky.
@@khasona6lt weirdo
I love how my playstyle is considered so wrong and I made it further than most people lol
Basically, tornado is not a good weapon objectively speaking. You are rendering the ricochet, bouncing, etc. upgrades useless. s
So this was Teeds before becoming a pro Unite gamer
i dunno, it's 2022 and i think me following your Pokemon Unite content brought me here. lol
me too
that's why i lost when I shot 9 tornados at once (2 multishot and 2 front arrow)
I know front arrow and multishot are core abilities and i love them! But really, with scythe.. if you re lucky enough to get multiple criticals* atk boost* and atk speed* ,maybe a headshot or rage even and one of the three -multishot front arrow or ricochet, the its Game !!! I was dealing 9000+ damage with epic lvl 40 scythe! I mean there are other ways if ur lucky to have ton of fun and dmg except front arrow multishot ricochet combo ! 😌
Good vid anyway you re fresher than Iced water coco 🥥🙈💦
This vid was 3 years ago and it was just now that I realized that I'm playing Archero very wrong
Hey there from the future. The Bright Spear is the best weapon in the game. Change my mind
no it's op lol
I can’t change your mind
Idk how yoh can stand the tornado, its always been crappy when ive used it. The spears and crossbows always worked so mucb better
I like to dedicate my game to melee attacks and the distance attack, according to what I get at the start
But one time I got ricochet and I had a perfect idea, I was gonna try to get piercing shot, the one where the arrows bounce off walls, and a really high speed
Oml it was so laggy
I tried meowgik with a dodge build and i rarely see it proc. When i got dodge master and agility from pool i saw it a few times but hardly like the 50% fully stacked dodge would imply.
When you get 1-3 hit by anything it just seems unreliable to me? Ive found the instant poison to all enemies in room far more useful as there are enemies at the top of screen you cant get to that are just slowly dying while you are running/hiding
Well following your great Pokemon unite content, yt suggested me this now 💀🔥.
Thank you UA-cam you have recommended this video on my homepage, because I just wanted to play the game
Tornado is my main here..
Sometimes the game just trolling me by putting both ricochet and bouncy wall on my options when i'm leveled up that i'm forced to get the whatever the third ability that showed up there..
Heck sometimes i got piercing shot, bouncy wall and ricochet all at once on my options.. (need to go on piercing so that it didn't break the tornado return benefit)
Hate it when that happens!!
@@SuperTeeds dang yeah, jeez..
I did the math too and I can confirm that having 2x multi and 1x front arrow would be by far the highest dps you can get on a single target without bonus effects because most chapters have at least one disappearing boss so having very high damage from a single shot fired would be the wisest choice. Stacking multishots makes the knockback effect proc twice as you said in the video so you can just push back many of the bosses into the corner using that strategy. If you are using the stalker staff NEVER get front arrow, it will increase your damage only if you dont have diagonal yet, getting diagonal is a much better trade off because you get something similar to 2x front arrow but without having your damage reduced by 25% for each front arrow so having diagonal only would theoretically increase your damage 3 times but having both one front and one diagonal would make it also 3 times because you would deal 75% of your initial damage from each of the 4 arrows you shoot (2 from front and 2 extra from diagonal). Also something you didnt say in the video is that multishot adds an extra shot to diagonal arrow, side arrow and rear arrow so this makes it by far better than front arrow dps wise.
And I thought shooting 3 arrows 3 times a shot was op 😂
0:23 the old avatar is so cute
Once I stacked 5 plus 1 arrow and 2 multi shot in one game and I had a machine gun bcus I had the saw blade
In the first area, I constantly used attack speed boost, more arrows, and bounce off walls. I shredded the final boss in 5 seconds
An important point to understand is that when you pick multishot more than once, your chances of getting a crit hit increases. Simply because more number of arrows are fired.
This is the comment I was looking for. Video says to not pick up multi shots but pair it with crit chance it's deadly because you get crit more often than not which in return your damage is greatly increased IF you add it up.
@@ayoTUBBZ1 well it did say about headshot, maybe she just forgot.
But yeah, i combo 2 multi shots with crits and headshot. Also way better with bouncy wall and pierce.
Wait this isn't pokemon unite-
technically tornado already has piercing and bouncy walls.
For mayhem:
Bounce wall 100 gram
Ricochet 100 gram
Piercing 100 gram
Arrow increases 1000000 grams
Thats the recipe for death
*container should be tiranis
My Dream Team Loadout:
Brightspear/Scythe/Staff
Ricochet
Bouncy Wall
Multishot
Diagonal Arrow
Side Arrow
Rear Arrow
Bloodthirst
Headshot
Rage
Holy Touch
Extra Life
Through the Wall
Poison Arrow
Freeze Arrow
Shock Arrow
Burn Arrow
If i use sylvan instead of shade i can replace the last 4 with something else as well
Your avatar is different...
Wow, usually UA-camrs who make vids of these kinds of games are like SUPER high lvl and shit and have like all the equipment almost so max. That is why I love the fact, that you are not like that, but instead more in the middle of the spectrum and still make all these great vids, which do help a lot!
With 3 arrows not even 2 arrows hit
Normal monsters usually only get hit by 1 arrow
Multi shot and from arrow are my favorites :(
me too!
SuperTeeds most OP combo if you get it early on
@@TerranceGeorge Most OP combo all the time ;)
@@SuperTeeds damn straight
Do 1 multi shot and 1 front arrow stack well??thanks🤔😊
I took 4 multi shots and 1 front arrow with the tornado and I won
Hey, I always wondered what "Strong heart" really did. It makes the healing stronger, but which one? From the angles, red hearts, levelups, or bloodthirst? Because I used to think that comboing Bloodthirst and Strong heart was OP, but I'm not sure anymore.
ye i wanna know too
I don't know too but in my opinion it's only for the red hearts
i think from the angels, i notice it once when i pick strong heart
The red hearts and angels
Love the post! In my opinion ricochet is the most powerful ability in the game though. I'd take that as my first ability over multi shot any day.. just doesn't help quite as much for boss fights!
Im currently using a lvl40 staff and im having a hard time if I should switch to tornado or scythe, both are also in epic now but havent leveled them yet. I need your expertise please 🙏
I like multishots on the staff though cuz it is standing still for a bit and some mobs and even some bosses such as the reaper boss are running straight in all my staff balls :D
it's not only about the raw numbers, but also on what skills you picked. if you have multiple elemental arrows, then it is better to take as many shot multipliers as they all will apply the effects, even though the base attack values are getting lower.
Was obsessed with this game now not into it as much.
@Girafa Amazonica actually if you rarely die, the energy is quite enough for me. I mean i never die in stage 6. Only die now in stage 9
@Girafa Amazonica ohhh, well having no energy is better any day
@Girafa Amazonica haha i feel you, i did this before.
Hope they remove it but i doubt it 🤷♂️
@@marvinduanechua9300 wow i always get to atleast 20 on hero mode (hard mode)
@SOS STAR That's not exactly forcing you to pay bro. Energy mechanics, when done well (like in this game, as opposed to candy crush types that are literally Just there to suck whales dry) serve as a good motivator for both f2p and p2p, they help balance stuff and keep you coming back. Playing 24/7 is what often kills a mobile game, tbh. Valkyrie Crusade, a game I've been at for maybe 4 years now, keeps repeatedly getting boring to me because I just...don't run out of resources now I'm basically endgame, and the only money I've spent was for one (1) barely useful card and maybe a storage upgrade🥴
The math for multishot seems all over the place. The video says a multi-shot is a 10% decrease in damage, but then when it shows the stats broken down, the power levels don't represent that (a 10% decrease from 1647 is1482 each, but the video states 1253, if I assume the video's 1253 is correct and do a 10% decrease from THAT to 2x multi shot it should be 1127, or if we' re decreasing by 10% of the base attack it would be 1088, but the video states 917). 1x multishot says 2606/1253 each, but 1253x2 arrows is 2506, 2x multi-shot the math is closer, but then 3x multishot shows 2525 for each 613 arrow, but 613x4 is 2452. The video then says 3x multi shot is a 19 damage increase, 19 damage from what? The video seems to show a 3x multishot to be a DECREASE from 1x and 2x multishots.
Tornado
- front shot (doesnt matter how many)
- 2x multishot
- attack speed (fuck load)
Result:
*This is full auto.*
I am really confused about the multi shot numbers. How does 1253 x 2 = 2606? It's 2506. 917 x 3 is 2751, and 613 x 4 is 2452 not 2525. Plus firing more arrows has more benefits than just a total damage number. With knockback effect, some plus speed abilities, and 3 multishots you can completely incapacitate an enemy. Plus applying more elemental effects if you're sylvan, more headshot chances, and if you have bouncy wall and diagonal arrows you're creating absolute chaos on the board for enemies.
For the people that can stutter step, don’t get multishot
Don't know, for me stutter step works great with multishot especially with scythe.
Pretty sure i could have not reached stage 9 without using those combinations, also they woek best with front arrow aw well with scythe, they finish the job a lot faster and protects you from enemies coming near
Sounds like your from Australia? I don't know why we do it, but I know a LOT of Americans who LOVE everything about Australia! The closest I've been to Australia was in 1975. The year I lived in Singapore. (Loved it!)
If I'm wrong about your location, sorry but I still love your accent!
Thanks for the game help! I was stuck & now I can tear up Archero!
Love the details and effort you put in 😊
But it's too much stress for me 😆
What keep me getting back to the game is the easygoing nature
Like when you make mistake and that's perfectly OKAY 😆
Sometimes it just the pleasing feeling you get from killing mobs that brighten up your day 🌟
This game make us happy without thinking much 😊
Sometime it's luck that get you through 🎉
As a saw blade main, I've had 3 multishot perks, as well as multiple speed boosts.
Including knockback effect, it is hilarious to watch how quickly a boss can be pushed in whatever direction you're firing from. Pushing them into a corner and staggering them so much that they can't get an attack off is so satisfying.
My main logic for multi short and +1 arrow It always raises my survivability for a few percent. Without regards for damage details.
If I can get pierce and bounce that'll be godsend and you can just stand on a spot.
Or you can go for the ricochet route instead of the bounce pierce route, it saves you one more ability and will almost always hit other targets.
Order of priority for me
Multi shot > front arrow > diagonal/side arrow > back arrow
Back arrows are worth if you have a bounce pierce combo.
thanks for the guide, and a soothing voice. Its quite relaxing
Why the game doesn't tell us about dmg reduction??
It makes so much sense now. I used to stack multishots, all arrows, pierce, bounce, ricochet and I use a fucking tornado lol. Thought "more arrows - more damage"
In my last game I only used multishot and front arrows once, got attack speed and damage boosts, went through a new chapter in a heartbeat. It is also easier to see enemy projectiles, since there's much less visual clutter
Thanks for the video!
tui là người Việt Nam nên không hiểu cậu nói gì
Picked up 2 multi shots 2 diagonal arrows, bounce while equipped with a tornado. Hitting anything matters more. Better to have 15 stars bouncing around. Nothing stands a chance lady lmfao. I keep hoping it’ll happen again but it never does lol
Yeah, all of this is irrelevant with the only true weapon, the stalker staff
Exactly! For stalker staff, diagonal, multi, ricochet and bouncy are all powerful!
My strat is using crossbow, then alway prioritize multishot, boltshot front arrow poison damge and thats pretty much it, my reduced stats are pretty much being given back to me by the angel and the devil, bes thing to do as a beginner, lesrn to dodge, i was an offline player till chapter 3 before i finally decided to actually use armors and talents, plus saving up that much allowed me to go roll 10 in the obsidian chest giving me a guaranteed epic item, so pretty much , learn to dodge dont stop moving learn to predict, and pay attention to boss details
Does multi and front arrow once not work for tornado? Because if I pick it up it feels like I definitly do more damage.
Very nice video. I am currently on chapter 8 and would always get 2 multi shot and 2 front arrow. Hopefully the change will help me get to chapter 9.
2 and 1 are best
The problem is she's not factoring in the speed increase build up with those items. That's why I'll always take bouncy wall and multi with tornado. Because I know Im going to get the speed boosts! Then it's game over! For them...not me! lol
3:08-3:13
Stalker Stalker(in dio voice): you see, mere mortal, I need not move,because my 17 million truth seeking orbs, passed down to me by the sage of the six second chapter-clearer, will do all the work for me!
They all a the best abilities stacked
Bs, bouncy wall is definitely better if you already have multi direction shots, as you can hit and run. You pick tornados mostly because it has a built in piecing effect, so you can skip that and stack another multi direction shot. I use the bat ring so I get to skip the healing on kill skill too to stack another multi direction shot.
Sometimes numbers are irrelevant 😊
For example Blaze ability is a must!
It's so much funner with the sound 😆
Damage is less important compare to the pleasing feeling of the sound hahaha
I lucked out once right before the final boss I got a attack speed boost , I had double shot two front arrow and then another double shot!! I managed to get my build just right and had insane attack speed >.< but yes I do agree with not normally stacking just thought I would share my luck haha maybe someone else reading this will get lucky 🍀