Yeah he's pretty good and all but back in college I played a lotta tekken tag and I was the best of all my drunk friends, I bet my eddy could take this guy. I mean why even bother using a stick when the system came with a controller
Long time Tekken player here. I really like the content you’re putting out on Tekken. Great videos and I like your vibe and insight. Perfect timing for Tekken 8, I think your channel will blow up during Tekken 8. Keep it up man!
If you trained any martial arts you know that feeling of going up against the coach or a more experienced teammate in sparring as a begginer. My kickboxing coach would do nothing but a jab and a low kick just to keep me in check and see how I respond and only do some bigger moves/combinations when I made a mistake. It felt like there was nothing i could do to even get a good hit in, he always had my timing down and his defense was almost perfect. He wasn't hurting me or anything, it was always just light playful sparring but I was getting my ass jabbed to death everytime 😂
Man, I think this is one of your best videos yet. So informative and your analysis is done in a way that makes sense really intuitively. I've been playing a long time and like to think I'm not bad, but I feel like this is going to completely change my perspective on neutral. Even though I've been watching Knee do this for years, I've missed a lot without carefully considering each interaction. Your passion is obvious and infectious and your content is some of the best in the community. Thanks for having cool shit to say, man. I'll keep listening
Watching this reinforced one thing for me. Never show an experienced opponent the same look over and over, bad habit of mine as an intermediate level player. Just take a moment to breathe and assess. In knee's case, he's always poking at you, not giving u time to think and making reads based off on how u react to pressure. Awesome stuff
22:35 That type of thing is amazing in whatever context be it games, sports or anything else. Where people who are so good at what they do they've truly mastered "basic" things, without even trying are comfortably better than basically anyone else you've ever seen using only foundational things. Nothing fancy, no secrets, no magic tricks, raw skill, experience and capitalising on mistakes you make (whether self inflicted or set up) that make you see the gap between people who are "good" and the absolute elite. It's very humbling to have all of your deficiencies immediately pointed out and exploited by the best. It gives you a great perspective, new appreciation and new aims to learn and improve as much as possible because you now know how much room to grow you have
Hi PhiDX, I love your breakdowns. I think youre making the best tekken content at the moment. Im wondering if you could breakdown a JDCR Dragunov match? Im learning Dragunov and have managed to reach Yaksa with him. But id be fascinated to hear you break down JDCR because Drag uses so few moves, it's mostly just timing and spacing. Anyway, hope youre all good!
29:10 is a perfect moment. Really shows how a good attitude makes learning Tekken so much more fun and efficient. It's these small victories that motivate and build one's style and character.
Great vid, love to see content that reflects on not just Knee being good (obviously, he is) but on WHY he's so good, through the language of a player who's on a high enough level that they're able to explain just why playing against him feels so particularly suffocating. So refreshing to see it spelled out through experience.
I actually can relate to what you were talking about when you mentioned "immature offence" or something like that. I play many PVP games mostly casually nowadays, but in a couple of games where I did play less casually I had the same feeling where you're in a 50/50 situation against a weaker or less experienced player, and 99% of those 50/50 situations within the set were obvious to me as a stronger player. Like, techincally it was 50/50 but practically I just knew what my opponent was going to do because my assumptions based on the choices of the opposing player were almost always correct. I seldom get that feeling anymore. 😔
This was a lot of fun. I really like that concept of immature offense and defense, for both tekken and actual martial arts - having seen tons of situations and thought processes in the clutch Is something you can't fake, but at least being mindful that you're a basic b*tch lol means we can maybe at least take a few steps in 'maturing' quicker without having access to that experience yet, being mindful of what you're showing and revealing of your intentions, and whether they're gonna be prepared for those intentions. This vid had me so excited about Tekken.
Knee's ability to squeeze space and create constant pressure is shown so clearly here. I feel like Knee didn't really make full use of Feng's more dangerous options until he feels he can/should to make the series end faster, there were very few shoulders in the beginning and a strong focus on what amounts to the footsie game, and I think this term is important because he's not jabbing to poke you out, he's jabbing to control the space and force a specific response and it becomes apparent as the series goes on that Knee starts hard reading much harder based on information he got from the more basic movements he did early on in the series. Particularly around series 3 I think is the breakpoint imo where Knee generally doesn't back off anymore and stays so close that you are forced to decide faster and faster which makes it more susceptible to being hard read. I disagree on the "noob" part as well, you're up against one of the best of the best in the business, I think it's hard not to look bad compared to them, especially in Tekken where so much of the game is based around information and situations you are familiar with. Thank you for sharing what amounts to a replay review with us. Good luck with your Tekken journey, I for one am definitely enjoying all the content you're putting out. 😄
Generally-speaking you want to keep things as simple as possible, as long as the gameplan works. The more things you need to do the more effort you need to put in, thus increasing the chance of an error. I'm agreeing with you, I just wanted to mention why Knee wasn't using Feng's more dangerous options. It wasn't about "making the series end faster", it was about consistency.
@@DarkestKNIGHTCJH Holy shit, a person agreeing with someone on the internet without arguing about semantics for two hours. You're a rare breed, I appreciate you.
I started playing Tekken seriously in 2000 with TTT1, and I honestly think that the level Knee reached in DR during a tourney called "S Fighter" (might also be typed out "S_Fighter") is the absolute highest level of play I've ever seen from a Tekken player. He's an absolute machine and I'll be very surprised if another player reaches that level.
@@nichtanfassen6009arslan ash has only ever played broken characters in tournaments…He played kazumi,Zafina when they were broken and now playing Kuni…Knee plays Bryan,Steve,Paul in tekken 7…How many players even play these characters in tournaments…
Bro, this is pretty much the same thing that happened to me when I played Knee back then lol. He's so good at forcing opponents to make mistakes. If you use slower moves, he's gonna ch you with jabs all day and force you to use quicker/shorter moves. Once you do, he'll then beat you with movement. 😂
Despite knee being the master of reading and movement. I think that has backfired him in the tournaments recently. Safe and reading style is a killer in longer sets. But to be honest, the tournament is ft2 an unga bunga style might work before you figure it out. So I think knee needs to start playing more 50 50
this Knee's Jab video (t 5 version) is a good analysis which shows how good Knee is in understanding the character's strength. But on the flip side, it should also be noted that Bryan, Steve and probably Nina were cheap due to their i8 jab (Same as the T7 DLC characters with enhanced fundamental tools and movement). That's the part of T5 history which gets forgotten. Also, it should also be noted that the part of Knee's strength as a competitor has more often than not been in selecting the cheapest options.
I've caught your videos every now and then. You're very thorough. I really appreciate the analysis of so many interactions. I think this is your best video.
Really? You needed to play the guy to realize just how good he is? That tells me you have quite a bit to learn about Tekken. Also keep in mind he looks worse in tournaments, cause he's playing much better players than you, it's not just jet lag and not being home or w/e. I have this friend that's kinda new to Tekken, but I still play with him a lot, trying to teach him. I utterly destroy him, right. But then I played another guy, who was on my level, still beat him fairly consistently, yet my friend who was watching the matches went "man, you didn't really do much against this guy, he whooped your ass". P.S: Not trying to throw shade at your personal Tekken level or whatever, it's just something I've noticed throughout all Tekken skill levels and competitive games in general. People don't quite get how much better players considerably above their skill level actually are.
Watching a person play and actually playing them in person are two very different things and I can relate very well to the last sentence you made when I played JDCR. His awareness of the game was at a far greater height than mine. Of course, nothing was lost and experience was gained that day.
No I'm saying when I fought knee in tournament, it felt easier than this time. When I fought Arslan in tournament, it was easier than offline FT5s. It is all of those factors.
I just got out of green ranks and whenever I play red and blue ranks and high(er than me) ranks in unranked who flow chart me or 10-string me, there are moments where I make hard reads and duck punishes certain strings or guess right on a mix-up that gives me the faintest hope that I can be good at this game even tho I get perfect’d the rest of the game
Phi your contents are very good! I was wondering if you have any plans on doing like a "1st dan to Divine Ruler" content where you coach bunch of ACTUAL first timers of fighting game / Tekken to see how far they can climb with your coaching. I think it would be very helpful for any newcomers that are planning to join in preparation for T8, me included haha. Your videos are so fun to watch, but sometimes their concepts are too advanced for an extreme beginner like me to understand and apply. Anyway, thank you for all your content, and I really loved your steam with Knee :)
its just crazy how often in high level korean play, dashing is the best no mixup mixup. Even in this set knee so confident he just dashes in your face, crazy.
thank you for these videos, they are amazing! I always get really frustrated and demotivated if someone is this much better then me, do you have any tipps on dealing with that?
Im only a fujin but I had the same problem against a Negan abuse his jabs on me playing noctis which is really difficult to deal with especially with no down jab. While it can end badly, my adaptation was to just try hard ducking the jabs which actually helped me win the set.
The ability to play against people way better than me is so much harder in T8 now that you can't get into death matches during quick match. Every now and again in T7 I'd get 10-0d but some TGO but I would learn _so_ much in that time. Always ensured I did the same when playing against lower ranks too. The forced BO3 makes consistent high level competition much harder now.
Absolutely loved the video and the interactions. I personally used to see these matches were a player commits to two or three tools the whole set and wins EXTREMELY BORING, but now days I learn a LOT from them. A tool as simple as generic d4, or df1 into SS can create so many openings even against the best players.
Played against a Paul like this who was in the blue ranks. Of course it wasn’t Knee but was just jabbing me up, constantly doing side steps felt like I couldn’t get a clean hit on him to save my life and would catch with a move and it’s Paul so I basically was dead…shit was elite ngl and definitely showed the amount of work I still gotta do
Im absolutely dogwater at this game but this was still entertaining as fk for some reason, And that "getting beat up but still learning" state is also relatable as well as "the knowing exactly what your opponent is going to do", Been on both ends of the rope for different pvp games. All in all great video!
Knee is so ridiculous when he plays against no/low risk games (like rank match or fun matches), but top 8, he's so recluse, and only plays safe moves, ultimately getting beat out. It's like JDCR, watch him play rank, amd he's so good. But watching him in top 8... he literally lets people get him from 90% to 0% while the opponent has 1%, just because he's so afraid to do anything despite having a huge lead.
14:51 do you think he goes for throw here because if you break it, he gets good positioning and if you don't, you die? I know it was probably just a throw to test if you're ready for it but I wouldn't question if this was why he did it
Yo quick question.. who do you think you"ll be playing in Tekken 8.. as we both lose our Tekken 7 mains (just curious) My tag 2 characters where Kuni Lars Slim bob and Jun.. And I tried out Jun on my friends modded tekken 8 demo she's dope .. I prefer Maven over Raven And raven just looks stupid OP.. Sorry for the long comment bruh.. just wondering if you have a character in mind for Tekken 8 ? Also the set vs knee's feng was phenomenal to watch.. I learn so much from you analyzing
"Using this experience to train/learn instead of just the W" - A true student of the game, and a great teacher. Can I make a request/suggestion? You use a lot of jargon that is common to you (at least, I've never heard of some of these terms before your channel). Things like; "putting hitboxes out there" "jousting" "coverage" "giving them attack timings" "control" Obviously some are intuitively grasped but I see a lot of beginners/intermediate, me included, who would appreciate knowing for sure what exactly you mean sometimes. If you're gonna do beginner videos when T8 drops anyways, a dedicated video to some of the common lingo you use and ultimately, concepts you regularly employ and reference could be gold for newcomers to your channel and just high level Tekken in general.
Reminds me of my ft5 with knee when he played Steve in our match. It was a matter of time before he used jabs in conjunction with b+1 to negate any pressure. Good memories..... Lost 0-5
Dude, this is what I like. I am a Bryan fan and was stuck in red ranks in t8. But I started watching your content a week ago and today I hit mighty ruler at last. ZSaying all that, now I am watching your t7 video where you talk about fundamentals and genius of Knee (huge fan too). Thank you, Phi! U the goat, best tekken content creator so far!
Some fighting games feel like even the high level players are just fishing for the chance to do their optimal combo, and I love that this illustrates that in Tekken that isn't the only path to victory. Sure, Knee is going to bust them out when it's safe. But he's also going to win a round with 2 moves and no combos.
Some t5 playstyle shit here, great vid ! This is how Feng used to be played to be really effective btw, the abuse of SS mixs really became OP in T7 with movement nerf
I wont lie, ive seen ppl like TMM and others break down gameplans and matchups, but i absolutely love how you break things down. Very informative, very on point knowledge of things, and honest critiques, where it's more constructive than "this happened." So THANKS A TON FOR YOUR CONTENT. I love your work homie!!
Anyone who wants to see the power of Knees jab go and watch the evo finals. Knee vs Khan. He recently did a matcha gainst Yeonarang with Bryan and beat him 16 to 1. In his match you can see how crazy he controls the match with the jab. In saying this for the same reason i feel its why he looses against Pakistani Tekken which uses good movemenr with coverage option when at close range. Im not a pro but this is what ive noticed. Tekken 8s sidestepped buff is going to have such a huge impact on play style. Its going to be great. All the pros in DR are going to be killers in this game.
29:11 that raw, undiluted joy when you get a round off someone who is better than you and pushed you to improve in a match to beat them😅😅😅. I know that feeling well 😅
Great video, love the breakdowns. Your point about Knee not going low if you're not giving him a reason to risk going low is a great point. I feel like 99% of players would just go low as part of their flowchart, so it's cool to see a great example of Knee adjusting his game plan based on what the opponent was showing him and keeping it minimum risk.
Not for the majority of players. I have a group of friends who are all TGPs and they'll learn nothing if they played Knee. I mean, I know that for a fact.
@@DEUSVULT822 That's only true up to a point. Yes, Rank is largely meaningless, because you can just avoid playing people you can't beat consistently. But it's not entirely pointless. It still takes some effort and skill to get to the highest rank, regardless if you avoided all the "good" players or not. The point I was trying to make with my previous comment was that there's a massive difference between the highest ranked players in the game and the highest skill level of players in the game, even though the majority of Tekken players are not the highest rank in the game. And the difference being so massive means having the ability to play against Knee doesn't mean that much.
@@SlCKNESS_ fair point , i get what u are saying , agreed, but from my expirence offline tournaments , and online tournaments , feel like two diferent games.
in T7 Feng can press d+3+4 for the “generic d4” move. some other characters are also able to this. Paul can press db4 to get it. there’s more than 1 way to skin a cat…
This shows how reducing complicated things to its essentials allows you the ability to think clearly and act accordingly, and eventually style with comfort. Gotta practice this in my every day to just simplify stop over exaggerating everything.
100% agree with you, this style speaks more to me as a long time Street fighter player where pokes,block strings and patience plays a huge role so when i started implementing what i saw here it felt natural and like you mentioned i was more focused, defense increased and stopped fishing for big hits
This Knee guy is pretty good but he’s literally never beaten me
He never beat me too. Not a single round and im just a orange rank. Im starting to think this knee guy is overrated
Bro i actually have never played tekken 7 before and hes never even beat me! This guy is supposed to be the greatest in the world?
Yeh and i came out of nowhere and beat arslan ash in evo
Yeah he's pretty good and all but back in college I played a lotta tekken tag and I was the best of all my drunk friends, I bet my eddy could take this guy. I mean why even bother using a stick when the system came with a controller
@@theaudiocrat Pad users unite😂😂
Long time Tekken player here. I really like the content you’re putting out on Tekken. Great videos and I like your vibe and insight. Perfect timing for Tekken 8, I think your channel will blow up during Tekken 8. Keep it up man!
Thank you 🙏🏼🙏🏼
great content indeed
"I wiff a Jab"
"Im in the Air"
"Im dead"
Pro Tekken
TTT2 was my first game and it was as ruthless as fun. thats the spirit of tekken
If you trained any martial arts you know that feeling of going up against the coach or a more experienced teammate in sparring as a begginer. My kickboxing coach would do nothing but a jab and a low kick just to keep me in check and see how I respond and only do some bigger moves/combinations when I made a mistake. It felt like there was nothing i could do to even get a good hit in, he always had my timing down and his defense was almost perfect. He wasn't hurting me or anything, it was always just light playful sparring but I was getting my ass jabbed to death everytime 😂
Man, I think this is one of your best videos yet. So informative and your analysis is done in a way that makes sense really intuitively. I've been playing a long time and like to think I'm not bad, but I feel like this is going to completely change my perspective on neutral. Even though I've been watching Knee do this for years, I've missed a lot without carefully considering each interaction. Your passion is obvious and infectious and your content is some of the best in the community. Thanks for having cool shit to say, man. I'll keep listening
Watching this reinforced one thing for me. Never show an experienced opponent the same look over and over, bad habit of mine as an intermediate level player. Just take a moment to breathe and assess. In knee's case, he's always poking at you, not giving u time to think and making reads based off on how u react to pressure. Awesome stuff
22:35
That type of thing is amazing in whatever context be it games, sports or anything else. Where people who are so good at what they do they've truly mastered "basic" things, without even trying are comfortably better than basically anyone else you've ever seen using only foundational things. Nothing fancy, no secrets, no magic tricks, raw skill, experience and capitalising on mistakes you make (whether self inflicted or set up) that make you see the gap between people who are "good" and the absolute elite. It's very humbling to have all of your deficiencies immediately pointed out and exploited by the best. It gives you a great perspective, new appreciation and new aims to learn and improve as much as possible because you now know how much room to grow you have
Knees play is undoubtedly cracked.
Legit, it's like he a hit a solid line of coke that never wore off.
Hi PhiDX, I love your breakdowns. I think youre making the best tekken content at the moment. Im wondering if you could breakdown a JDCR Dragunov match? Im learning Dragunov and have managed to reach Yaksa with him. But id be fascinated to hear you break down JDCR because Drag uses so few moves, it's mostly just timing and spacing. Anyway, hope youre all good!
Seconding this.
As a semi-dragunov main, I would enjoy seeing this 😁
29:10 is a perfect moment. Really shows how a good attitude makes learning Tekken so much more fun and efficient. It's these small victories that motivate and build one's style and character.
Great vid, love to see content that reflects on not just Knee being good (obviously, he is) but on WHY he's so good, through the language of a player who's on a high enough level that they're able to explain just why playing against him feels so particularly suffocating. So refreshing to see it spelled out through experience.
I actually can relate to what you were talking about when you mentioned "immature offence" or something like that. I play many PVP games mostly casually nowadays, but in a couple of games where I did play less casually I had the same feeling where you're in a 50/50 situation against a weaker or less experienced player, and 99% of those 50/50 situations within the set were obvious to me as a stronger player. Like, techincally it was 50/50 but practically I just knew what my opponent was going to do because my assumptions based on the choices of the opposing player were almost always correct.
I seldom get that feeling anymore. 😔
This was a lot of fun. I really like that concept of immature offense and defense, for both tekken and actual martial arts - having seen tons of situations and thought processes in the clutch Is something you can't fake, but at least being mindful that you're a basic b*tch lol means we can maybe at least take a few steps in 'maturing' quicker without having access to that experience yet, being mindful of what you're showing and revealing of your intentions, and whether they're gonna be prepared for those intentions.
This vid had me so excited about Tekken.
Knee's ability to squeeze space and create constant pressure is shown so clearly here. I feel like Knee didn't really make full use of Feng's more dangerous options until he feels he can/should to make the series end faster, there were very few shoulders in the beginning and a strong focus on what amounts to the footsie game, and I think this term is important because he's not jabbing to poke you out, he's jabbing to control the space and force a specific response and it becomes apparent as the series goes on that Knee starts hard reading much harder based on information he got from the more basic movements he did early on in the series. Particularly around series 3 I think is the breakpoint imo where Knee generally doesn't back off anymore and stays so close that you are forced to decide faster and faster which makes it more susceptible to being hard read.
I disagree on the "noob" part as well, you're up against one of the best of the best in the business, I think it's hard not to look bad compared to them, especially in Tekken where so much of the game is based around information and situations you are familiar with. Thank you for sharing what amounts to a replay review with us. Good luck with your Tekken journey, I for one am definitely enjoying all the content you're putting out. 😄
Generally-speaking you want to keep things as simple as possible, as long as the gameplan works. The more things you need to do the more effort you need to put in, thus increasing the chance of an error. I'm agreeing with you, I just wanted to mention why Knee wasn't using Feng's more dangerous options. It wasn't about "making the series end faster", it was about consistency.
@@SlCKNESS_ I think I worded that badly, but yes, I agree with your analysis. My stilted vocabulary made that more ambiguous than necessary. :D
@@DarkestKNIGHTCJH Holy shit, a person agreeing with someone on the internet without arguing about semantics for two hours. You're a rare breed, I appreciate you.
I started playing Tekken seriously in 2000 with TTT1, and I honestly think that the level Knee reached in DR during a tourney called "S Fighter" (might also be typed out "S_Fighter") is the absolute highest level of play I've ever seen from a Tekken player. He's an absolute machine and I'll be very surprised if another player reaches that level.
Arslan Ash Did 😂
@@nichtanfassen6009lol nah
@@nichtanfassen6009arslan ash has only ever played broken characters in tournaments…He played kazumi,Zafina when they were broken and now playing Kuni…Knee plays Bryan,Steve,Paul in tekken 7…How many players even play these characters in tournaments…
@@nichtanfassen6009not really. Frankly Arslan isn’t even that good.
@@burnpisces7733 arslan is like knee but with a bunch of cheap tricks
Can we give it up to Phi and his upgrade in his analysis content lately? This man's gonna top 100k subscribers during Tekken 8 mark my words
100k? That's baby numbers. I expect 500k by the end of 2024, if not 1 million.
Bro, this is pretty much the same thing that happened to me when I played Knee back then lol. He's so good at forcing opponents to make mistakes. If you use slower moves, he's gonna ch you with jabs all day and force you to use quicker/shorter moves. Once you do, he'll then beat you with movement. 😂
Despite knee being the master of reading and movement. I think that has backfired him in the tournaments recently. Safe and reading style is a killer in longer sets. But to be honest, the tournament is ft2 an unga bunga style might work before you figure it out.
So I think knee needs to start playing more 50 50
I agree and i see him becoming more of a threat adding in 50/50 to his game
Which makes me imagine how much of a monster Arslan is.
Awesome analysis. We need you to play Arslan next, I would really appreciate such a breakdown of his gameplay.
this Knee's Jab video (t 5 version) is a good analysis which shows how good Knee is in understanding the character's strength. But on the flip side, it should also be noted that Bryan, Steve and probably Nina were cheap due to their i8 jab (Same as the T7 DLC characters with enhanced fundamental tools and movement). That's the part of T5 history which gets forgotten. Also, it should also be noted that the part of Knee's strength as a competitor has more often than not been in selecting the cheapest options.
I've caught your videos every now and then. You're very thorough. I really appreciate the analysis of so many interactions. I think this is your best video.
If you follow Tekken esports in any capacity, then the name “Knee” should not be a mystery to you.
Really? You needed to play the guy to realize just how good he is? That tells me you have quite a bit to learn about Tekken. Also keep in mind he looks worse in tournaments, cause he's playing much better players than you, it's not just jet lag and not being home or w/e. I have this friend that's kinda new to Tekken, but I still play with him a lot, trying to teach him. I utterly destroy him, right. But then I played another guy, who was on my level, still beat him fairly consistently, yet my friend who was watching the matches went "man, you didn't really do much against this guy, he whooped your ass".
P.S: Not trying to throw shade at your personal Tekken level or whatever, it's just something I've noticed throughout all Tekken skill levels and competitive games in general. People don't quite get how much better players considerably above their skill level actually are.
Watching a person play and actually playing them in person are two very different things and I can relate very well to the last sentence you made when I played JDCR. His awareness of the game was at a far greater height than mine. Of course, nothing was lost and experience was gained that day.
No I'm saying when I fought knee in tournament, it felt easier than this time. When I fought Arslan in tournament, it was easier than offline FT5s. It is all of those factors.
I just got out of green ranks and whenever I play red and blue ranks and high(er than me) ranks in unranked who flow chart me or 10-string me, there are moments where I make hard reads and duck punishes certain strings or guess right on a mix-up that gives me the faintest hope that I can be good at this game even tho I get perfect’d the rest of the game
Phi your contents are very good! I was wondering if you have any plans on doing like a "1st dan to Divine Ruler" content where you coach bunch of ACTUAL first timers of fighting game / Tekken to see how far they can climb with your coaching. I think it would be very helpful for any newcomers that are planning to join in preparation for T8, me included haha. Your videos are so fun to watch, but sometimes their concepts are too advanced for an extreme beginner like me to understand and apply. Anyway, thank you for all your content, and I really loved your steam with Knee :)
Loving the content g, keep cooking!
its just crazy how often in high level korean play, dashing is the best no mixup mixup. Even in this set knee so confident he just dashes in your face, crazy.
thank you for these videos, they are amazing! I always get really frustrated and demotivated if someone is this much better then me, do you have any tipps on dealing with that?
Im only a fujin but I had the same problem against a Negan abuse his jabs on me playing noctis which is really difficult to deal with especially with no down jab. While it can end badly, my adaptation was to just try hard ducking the jabs which actually helped me win the set.
Negan jabs are beaten by SSR, but the cheap part is his df1 is beaten with SSL. Ducking isn't entirely bad either for this reason
@@PhiDX yea there was a lot of jab df 1, and even db 4 is hard to step
The ability to play against people way better than me is so much harder in T8 now that you can't get into death matches during quick match.
Every now and again in T7 I'd get 10-0d but some TGO but I would learn _so_ much in that time. Always ensured I did the same when playing against lower ranks too. The forced BO3 makes consistent high level competition much harder now.
Absolutely loved the video and the interactions. I personally used to see these matches were a player commits to two or three tools the whole set and wins EXTREMELY BORING, but now days I learn a LOT from them. A tool as simple as generic d4, or df1 into SS can create so many openings even against the best players.
Played against a Paul like this who was in the blue ranks. Of course it wasn’t Knee but was just jabbing me up, constantly doing side steps felt like I couldn’t get a clean hit on him to save my life and would catch with a move and it’s Paul so I basically was dead…shit was elite ngl and definitely showed the amount of work I still gotta do
Im absolutely dogwater at this game but this was still entertaining as fk for some reason,
And that "getting beat up but still learning" state is also relatable as well as "the knowing exactly what your opponent is going to do",
Been on both ends of the rope for different pvp games.
All in all great video!
What now with all the chip damage in Tekken 8? Can this level of outplay happen now?
I think it just encourages mashing
Was it really you smacking the floor of the tournament??😂 That's awesome
One of the most instructive videos I've ever seen on how to play Tekken well. I really respect Knee's gameplay. Thanks for sharing. I learned a lot.
I subscribe to you for this.
Phi, what's the best Tekken for you? T8 exlcuded.
Tag 2
W glaze😂💯
Tbh loving the consistency with the uploading something new to watch all the time 💯💯👍🏽
I love this type of in depth analysis. Great video
Knee jab pog
I beat someone who beat knee one time so ig I’m….. better????
Knee is so ridiculous when he plays against no/low risk games (like rank match or fun matches), but top 8, he's so recluse, and only plays safe moves, ultimately getting beat out.
It's like JDCR, watch him play rank, amd he's so good. But watching him in top 8... he literally lets people get him from 90% to 0% while the opponent has 1%, just because he's so afraid to do anything despite having a huge lead.
First? 🤟🏾
14:51 do you think he goes for throw here because if you break it, he gets good positioning and if you don't, you die?
I know it was probably just a throw to test if you're ready for it but I wouldn't question if this was why he did it
Yep! Feng can use the throw to swap sides on break. It's really good
Yo quick question.. who do you think you"ll be playing in Tekken 8.. as we both lose our Tekken 7 mains (just curious)
My tag 2 characters where Kuni Lars Slim bob and Jun..
And I tried out Jun on my friends modded tekken 8 demo she's dope .. I prefer Maven over Raven And raven just looks stupid OP..
Sorry for the long comment bruh.. just wondering if you have a character in mind for Tekken 8 ?
Also the set vs knee's feng was phenomenal to watch.. I learn so much from you analyzing
PhiDX thank you for bringing THE KING OF IRON FIRST TOURNAMENT !
love your technical approach to your videos , this is what tekken players really want
"Using this experience to train/learn instead of just the W" - A true student of the game, and a great teacher.
Can I make a request/suggestion? You use a lot of jargon that is common to you (at least, I've never heard of some of these terms before your channel). Things like;
"putting hitboxes out there"
"jousting"
"coverage"
"giving them attack timings"
"control"
Obviously some are intuitively grasped but I see a lot of beginners/intermediate, me included, who would appreciate knowing for sure what exactly you mean sometimes. If you're gonna do beginner videos when T8 drops anyways, a dedicated video to some of the common lingo you use and ultimately, concepts you regularly employ and reference could be gold for newcomers to your channel and just high level Tekken in general.
20:37 I felt like this when I played Arslan, LowHigh, and JDCR. Feels like man, I have A LOT of work to do still and a long ways to go.
Reminds me of my ft5 with knee when he played Steve in our match. It was a matter of time before he used jabs in conjunction with b+1 to negate any pressure. Good memories..... Lost 0-5
This is a fantastic breakdown of Knee’s thought process and approach to neutral. I think I have never seen such a detailed analysis. Props, man.
Dude, this is what I like. I am a Bryan fan and was stuck in red ranks in t8. But I started watching your content a week ago and today I hit mighty ruler at last. ZSaying all that, now I am watching your t7 video where you talk about fundamentals and genius of Knee (huge fan too). Thank you, Phi! U the goat, best tekken content creator so far!
W video and analysis, I just appreciate how many layers of things there is to learn in TEKKEN
Technically you’re undefeated against Arslan so who’s really the best in the world?🤔
Some fighting games feel like even the high level players are just fishing for the chance to do their optimal combo, and I love that this illustrates that in Tekken that isn't the only path to victory. Sure, Knee is going to bust them out when it's safe. But he's also going to win a round with 2 moves and no combos.
Some t5 playstyle shit here, great vid ! This is how Feng used to be played to be really effective btw, the abuse of SS mixs really became OP in T7 with movement nerf
I wont lie, ive seen ppl like TMM and others break down gameplans and matchups, but i absolutely love how you break things down. Very informative, very on point knowledge of things, and honest critiques, where it's more constructive than "this happened." So THANKS A TON FOR YOUR CONTENT. I love your work homie!!
Phi, Joka is in Pakistan at the moment, if you want to analyse something this Video is amazing and it has Hafiz Tanveer and Atif Butt in it as well.
Playing against the GOAT, respect bro!
Anyone who wants to see the power of Knees jab go and watch the evo finals. Knee vs Khan. He recently did a matcha gainst Yeonarang with Bryan and beat him 16 to 1. In his match you can see how crazy he controls the match with the jab.
In saying this for the same reason i feel its why he looses against Pakistani Tekken which uses good movemenr with coverage option when at close range.
Im not a pro but this is what ive noticed. Tekken 8s sidestepped buff is going to have such a huge impact on play style. Its going to be great. All the pros in DR are going to be killers in this game.
and here's me feeling like 9 out of 10 times I even dare to press a jab I get ducked or high crushed immediately lol
i keep seeing videos of knee beating people up in tekken i wonder if hes good at the game or something
The amount of times he punished you for jabbing while stopping your own stuff with his own jabs was just insane name to watch
Knee did same thing to me hahahah
Me: jabs and immediately gets hit by high crushing launcher 😊
Humble, respectful, honest, you embody some of the best traits a tekken pro should have.
Man your passion for tekken is really infectious, It makes it really hard to not want to get good at this game. Please keep it up!
Knee really hit you with the Kazuya "AMAI!"
Thumb nail click bait
"you ever tried to fight some one that no mather what u do u will lose" yes against tisuemon in a local turnament in italy ahahah
29:11 that raw, undiluted joy when you get a round off someone who is better than you and pushed you to improve in a match to beat them😅😅😅.
I know that feeling well 😅
I’ve coincidentally been thinking about his jab a ton lately and boom you drop this. Maaarvelous
This reminds me of how Floyd mayweather can win a round with his lead hand
Great video, love the breakdowns. Your point about Knee not going low if you're not giving him a reason to risk going low is a great point. I feel like 99% of players would just go low as part of their flowchart, so it's cool to see a great example of Knee adjusting his game plan based on what the opponent was showing him and keeping it minimum risk.
Knee is a monster
Awesome video as always! Don’t forget this guy is almost 40yo!
Great stuff!
f u n d a m e n t a l s
having the ability to play against someone like that's gotta be SO useful
Not for the majority of players. I have a group of friends who are all TGPs and they'll learn nothing if they played Knee. I mean, I know that for a fact.
@@SlCKNESS_ rank doesnt mean anything , when u can fight who u want too , and dodge who u dont want
@@DEUSVULT822 That's only true up to a point. Yes, Rank is largely meaningless, because you can just avoid playing people you can't beat consistently. But it's not entirely pointless. It still takes some effort and skill to get to the highest rank, regardless if you avoided all the "good" players or not.
The point I was trying to make with my previous comment was that there's a massive difference between the highest ranked players in the game and the highest skill level of players in the game, even though the majority of Tekken players are not the highest rank in the game. And the difference being so massive means having the ability to play against Knee doesn't mean that much.
@@SlCKNESS_ fair point , i get what u are saying , agreed, but from my expirence offline tournaments , and online tournaments , feel like two diferent games.
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in T7 Feng can press d+3+4 for the “generic d4” move. some other characters are also able to this. Paul can press db4 to get it. there’s more than 1 way to skin a cat…
I wish they gave Noctis that....
Levels
keep this kind of content when T8 gets out i like it !
22:20 when the little brother finally gets a round.
This shows how reducing complicated things to its essentials allows you the ability to think clearly and act accordingly, and eventually style with comfort. Gotta practice this in my every day to just simplify stop over exaggerating everything.
100% agree with you, this style speaks more to me as a long time Street fighter player where pokes,block strings and patience plays a huge role so when i started implementing what i saw here it felt natural and like you mentioned i was more focused, defense increased and stopped fishing for big hits
“I WIFFED A JAB.....I’M IN THE AIR.....I’M DEAD”
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The Tekken 8 instructional videos bout to go craaaaazy. Keep up the great quality man!
Can Leroy play similarly to feng
great video wow
Dang. Knee been poppin for 15 years
You are right, seeing the developments is really cool!
@20:37 kingjae felt the same way lol
I love that vid, real happy to see you talking about it
I saw the little moments. This was great.
Cant wait to see tekken 8 tournaments
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That's nothing knee to me
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