Great job .I'm about to weld that cheap tool that did u no good right to the cap and try that... I'm going to weld the pins right in the put the tool onto the pins so the tool will stop falling off. That tool is great for a non stuck cap..but sucks for stuck one...Ive been trying a lot..even added some heat with the acetylene torch but I haven't managed to lock on to the cap to back it out..even my giant pipe wrench just eats into the cap then twist of... Great video mines in a much lower spot.. so I won't be able to do it quite like you did.
That’s a great idea! Weld that pos spanner tool to the cylinder and weld it together so it doesn’t span apart. Use some heat and a big breaker bar. Why didn’t I think of that!
You might want to throw a little Heat at it as well I took a piece of flat steel and cut basically a c shape over it so it went around the shaft and I can weld it several different places to the cap
Sorry more detail, before loosening that part of the cylinder there is a small screw that's holding it together. I assume you didnt see it as it was probably broken off with the threads stuck inside. Had the same problem with mine.
I had to do the same thing on a old case 1737 I ended up welding something to the Caps while I was able to get on it and really pry on it are blue a part of Penn Ranch as well
After all that, striking the cylinder end is likely what broke it free. Peening seems to be the standard for overcoming this problem. Also, you should definitely protect the cylinder shaft while welding. Weld spatter will stick to it and ruin your new seals in the first stroke, undoing all that hard labour!
This was a week long project that was edited down for viewing. I would spray PB blaster on the end cap and peen every night after work and then finished the next weekend. They were really stuck. Good call on covering the shaft though. I should have done that. I did take the time to fully inspect all parts before re-assembly to avoid such an outcome. Welcome to Man Time👍
Lol. Yeah that’s what we have to do. Persist and figure it out right. But aluminum end caps?!? The curse words start to roll off the tongue. When I Bullet proofed my 6.0 the curse was very strong. Man Time!
I double checked today and there is no Allen screw to lock the cap. Might have been a different model 555 you had. There are lots of flavors but that’s a good suggestion to check for one
heat it up with a torch i broke the spanner at first pull so i called the dealer and they sold me one the guy said to heat it up . i told him you crazy it will seaase and they walk me back to a recient job done and sure enough the burn paint was there and hammer it but is a 2 peron job one heatd and hits the other turns the spanner . i havnt try it but will soon
That is what I looked like today.... mine is on a bobcat, gland nut is aluminum, so I can't weld it... that tool was useless for me too, it warped and mangled the aluminum glan hole... even tried the air hammer... no luck so far...
I’d be curious on the cylinder cost from Bobcat. If the difference exceeds X I jump on that deal. My replacement cylinder was $2500, if memory serves. I bought a bent used one for $600. Makes you wonder what you’re getting for the $ though
Why not push down on the chain wrench instead of pulling up with your back. Most Glands have a set screw at the rim. Blaming the adjustable gland tool I don't know they always work for me. Try firm tapping around edge of cylinder, heat the cylinder and ice the gland Abd put downward force
just get the big pipe wrench on edge of gland then put 10 foot 2 inch pipe on it only if boucin on wrench doesnt work heat it up .then use the same pipe wrench on th rod nut use the backhoe to hpld th rod . did you grease the threads puting back togather so next times easyer those cute gland wrenches cant handle rusty gland
I’m not smart enough to plan ahead and grease the gland nut for the next guy LOL! I didn’t reef it down so maybe that cute wrench has a chance next time.
I wonder if he took a Gland screw out or if he has a broken gland screw. In? There and that's why he can't get it off cause. I've never seen one that hard to get off so I'm thinking. He's got a gland screw either broken off that he doesn't know what's there or he doesn't know? What's there and didn't take it out? One of the otwe're got water in the. Hydraulic fluid at one time at all collected down in there and rusted that thing solid so a little heat would take it right off but look for the gland screw because if that head got broke off and you don't know what's in there you're gonna play h*** getting that off
Nicely done. Thank you for showing the actual work, most videos just talk about it
Yes and thanks! I found the same thing. I wanted to show what actually happens with a 40 yr old cylinder. It’s a nightmare but can be overcome
Great video, I thought I was the only one going through this.
Yeah this and the other vids are like a worst case scenario. Prob what normal folks need to see vs a shop doing it
Great job .I'm about to weld that cheap tool that did u no good right to the cap and try that... I'm going to weld the pins right in the put the tool onto the pins so the tool will stop falling off.
That tool is great for a non stuck cap..but sucks for stuck one...Ive been trying a lot..even added some heat with the acetylene torch but I haven't managed to lock on to the cap to back it out..even my giant pipe wrench just eats into the cap then twist of...
Great video mines in a much lower spot.. so I won't be able to do it quite like you did.
That’s a great idea! Weld that pos spanner tool to the cylinder and weld it together so it doesn’t span apart. Use some heat and a big breaker bar.
Why didn’t I think of that!
8:22 Yep same like me ..... strike it !! it makes you feel better
Same here thanks for the video and not giving up man! Great job!
You might want to throw a little Heat at it as well I took a piece of flat steel and cut basically a c shape over it so it went around the shaft and I can weld it several different places to the cap
Sorry more detail, before loosening that part of the cylinder there is a small screw that's holding it together. I assume you didnt see it as it was probably broken off with the threads stuck inside. Had the same problem with mine.
so what did you do to get it the same happen to me
Congratulations! Huge achievement. I destroyed mine 😅
This was a massive project. Tested my mechanical limits for sure
Tried everything, nothing worked until i bought a 1200mm pipe wrench with a 3metre scaffold standard as a lever. It finally broke loose
I had to do the same thing on a old case 1737 I ended up welding something to the Caps while I was able to get on it and really pry on it are blue a part of Penn Ranch as well
the heat from the weld broke it loose . treatlock
Thanks for this. I just broke down used gas.
That’s probably the smart way to go!
I think that chain wrench would have work just as good as that spanner.
Funny, I caught myself straining when he tried to break the gland loose (but it didn't seem to help him)😆😆
After all that, striking the cylinder end is likely what broke it free. Peening seems to be the standard for overcoming this problem. Also, you should definitely protect the cylinder shaft while welding. Weld spatter will stick to it and ruin your new seals in the first stroke, undoing all that hard labour!
This was a week long project that was edited down for viewing. I would spray PB blaster on the end cap and peen every night after work and then finished the next weekend. They were really stuck.
Good call on covering the shaft though. I should have done that. I did take the time to fully inspect all parts before re-assembly to avoid such an outcome. Welcome to Man Time👍
@@Man-Time I just took a curl cylinder off a Kubota L35...the gland ends are aluminum....long story short, it was a nightmare lol. Cool vid!
Lol. Yeah that’s what we have to do. Persist and figure it out right. But aluminum end caps?!? The curse words start to roll off the tongue. When I Bullet proofed my 6.0 the curse was very strong. Man Time!
You might want to throw a little Heat at it as well
" Red Loctite ". Heat.
Did you take off the little screw with the allen wrench before loosening?
I double checked today and there is no Allen screw to lock the cap. Might have been a different model 555 you had. There are lots of flavors but that’s a good suggestion to check for one
heat it up with a torch i broke the spanner at first pull so i called the dealer and they sold me one the guy said to heat it up . i told him you crazy it will seaase and they walk me back to a recient job done and sure enough the burn paint was there and hammer it but is a 2 peron job one heatd and hits the other turns the spanner . i havnt try it but will soon
That is what I looked like today.... mine is on a bobcat, gland nut is aluminum, so I can't weld it... that tool was useless for me too, it warped and mangled the aluminum glan hole... even tried the air hammer... no luck so far...
Yeah sometimes you can follow all the right steps and still come up short. Best of luck. You’re not alone in the fight
@@Man-Time Have not gave up yet, but the $800 for a new Chinese cylinder is looking best option at this point.
I’d be curious on the cylinder cost from Bobcat. If the difference exceeds X I jump on that deal. My replacement cylinder was $2500, if memory serves. I bought a bent used one for $600. Makes you wonder what you’re getting for the $ though
@@Man-Time It was about $1300 except it was not in stock
Why not push down on the chain wrench instead of pulling up with your back. Most Glands have a set screw at the rim. Blaming the adjustable gland tool I don't know they always work for me. Try firm tapping around edge of cylinder, heat the cylinder and ice the gland Abd put downward force
just get the big pipe wrench on edge of gland then put 10 foot 2 inch pipe on it only if boucin on wrench doesnt work heat it up .then use the same pipe wrench on th rod nut use the backhoe to hpld th rod . did you grease the threads puting back togather so next times easyer those cute gland wrenches cant handle rusty gland
I’m not smart enough to plan ahead and grease the gland nut for the next guy LOL! I didn’t reef it down so maybe that cute wrench has a chance next time.
I wonder if he took a Gland screw out or if he has a broken gland screw. In? There and that's why he can't get it off cause. I've never seen one that hard to get off so I'm thinking. He's got a gland screw either broken off that he doesn't know what's there or he doesn't know? What's there and didn't take it out? One of the otwe're got water in the. Hydraulic fluid at one time at all collected down in there and rusted that thing solid so a little heat would take it right off but look for the gland screw because if that head got broke off and you don't know what's in there you're gonna play h*** getting that off
I read about peening the tube.ever try that?
If beating on the tube with a mini sledge is the same as peening, then I did try that. Lol