Love this just bought a Fiat ducato. Swift lifestyle but thinking of an A class next time as love the space of them and height and driving visibility great review 👍🏽👍🏽
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I simply said that "it's slightly more affordable" - compared with Frankia's usual £180-220k price range (on Merc). All things are relative. Yes, some folk are struggling (and I will never be able to afford a 'van like this myself) but, equally, there's currently no shortage of buyers for premium motorhomes at well over £100k. Consider that you'd have to go easy on spec on a new Range Rover to "only" spend £127k and I think that puts perspective on it.
You are right Peter, that the gap in the floor, next to the seat, is a little odd as it goes into the underfloor space, especially as a double floor is meant to help stop cold coming up into the habitation area. One may have to wear a left slipper that is double fur lined.
I'd much prefer the American Renegade RV, than this! Basically because the Renegade is far more superior in my opinion, having a built in generator and two slideouts! Both prices are similar!
You can't buy the Renegade in the UK and, if you did manage to import one (LHD), you couldn't drive it on a standard car licence as it's 5 tonnes. That's a big point in favour of the Neo here. Also, European brands tend to be very nervous of slide-outs as it's so hard to ensure that, in time, they don't leak.
Are all camper vans diesel I believe there’s going to come a time where countries in Europe and uk put restrictions on all diesel vehicles and probably not that far away from doing so
All motorhomes are diesel and 99% of campervans are, too. There are a very few petrol models and a tiny number of electric ones. I think it will be a good few years before Euro VI diesels are a problem, although city centres may be an issue. For electric campervans see the Feb issue of What Motorhome - www.outandaboutlive.co.uk/motorhomes/store/back-issues/what-motorhome/
I much prefer the look of A Class motorhomes without the front drop down bed. I don’t know why so many have them, people with young kids don’t really feel like the target market for this kind of vehicle.
It's often about resale. Dealers prefer to have the drop-down bed fitted as it widens the pool of buyers when these 'vans became more affordable on the used market - not just families but for grandchildren, too.
No, you can have the Chassis Pack and still stay under 3,500kg for a Class B licence (just), but be very careful regarding the weight of other options fitted and what you carry (esp in the garage)
I expect most buyers will want SMC to add solar but, again, you'll need to be careful about adding weight if staying under 3,500kg with a useable payload. Some buyers will use site hook-ups and not need solar panels.
The continental side, yes, but does it matter? A UK motorhome has the door on the "wrong" side when you go abroad. You don't usually park a 'van like this in the street, either.
For a motorhome that price the sealant finish underneath was terrible looks as if they did it in the dark half the bolts missing on metal anchor points in double floor iteneo or pilote better value and better finish
Love the Ironman analogy. Would love to see a rear lounge Neo (quite easy for Frankia to change the single beds here to settees), especially as this maker is known for its rear lounge layouts. Maybe for 2024...
Prices are probably higher on an LCV. I'd be very surprised if the Chassis Pack didn't offer a useful saving against spec'ing all the extras individually
I liked it but you can't please everyone. And Frankia still does its bigger, more traditional models for those with bigger budgets (and who don't mind a heavier vehicle)
But to a lot of buyers it isn't the most important aspect. Many will barbecue outside or eat out. Surely, you spend many, many more hours sleeping and driving, so the bedroom and base vehicle are more important than the galley? If you like cooking so much, you'll probably prefer British 'vans
Sorry I crashed the motorhome because the sun was in my eyes ? No sun visor, don't reach out of the driving seat because you are not In Control of your vehicle. Insurance company will not pay out????????
Yes, it's something they need to address. But sunvisors (and windscreen wipers and blindspots caused by mirrors, etc) are always worth checking out before you buy any A-class.
I can tell you that you present the best reviews on utube. I know this because i watch them all!
Thank you so much. That's made my day!
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The bathroom really is the star, and you are the best presenter of motorhomes
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I'm at SMC tomorrow for couple bits work always use them top class.
thanks for your reviews ! From Germany👍
Glad you like them! Always great to have continental viewers!
Great motor the size the quality and a Mercedes’ thanks for the video and information
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Love this just bought a Fiat ducato. Swift lifestyle but thinking of an A class next time as love the space of them and height and driving visibility great review 👍🏽👍🏽
18:36 "You're not going to bang your elbows"
18:38 "clunk" 😂🤣😃
Really nice van, great review. Not so sure about the dancing, lol.
Me neither. I think I need classes! Don't expect me on Strictly any time soon...
Great looking van with some good additions the heating could do with being diesel as well shame about all the UA-cam adverts in the video
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First time viewing your channel. With the music at the start, thought I'd accidentally strayed into the opening credits of The Shining
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Great review Peter. I was taken back by the interior on this model. I'm sure it would look better in reality. Just saying for that amount of cost.
It's quite a plain and simple style, which won't suit everyone, but Frankia's quality still seems intact
I agree. It looks dated and cheap.
Makes me laugh how any one thinks £127K is affordable. Some people don’t seem to live in the real world. Have you watched the news lately
I simply said that "it's slightly more affordable" - compared with Frankia's usual £180-220k price range (on Merc). All things are relative.
Yes, some folk are struggling (and I will never be able to afford a 'van like this myself) but, equally, there's currently no shortage of buyers for premium motorhomes at well over £100k. Consider that you'd have to go easy on spec on a new Range Rover to "only" spend £127k and I think that puts perspective on it.
You are right Peter, that the gap in the floor, next to the seat, is a little odd as it goes into the underfloor space, especially as a double floor is meant to help stop cold coming up into the habitation area. One may have to wear a left slipper that is double fur lined.
You might get odd looks in the shoe shop - one stand slipper and one fur-lined one please...
I'm not a fan of this van, it reminded me of a short wheel base Commer bus but just slightly more expensive. Nice review though Peter. Cheers K.
My parents took me to Bulgaria in a Commer Auto-Sleeper in 1980 - trip of a lifetime. I think they paid £3,650 for that 'van...
I'd much prefer the American Renegade RV, than this! Basically because the Renegade is far more superior in my opinion, having a built in generator and two slideouts! Both prices are similar!
You can't buy the Renegade in the UK and, if you did manage to import one (LHD), you couldn't drive it on a standard car licence as it's 5 tonnes. That's a big point in favour of the Neo here.
Also, European brands tend to be very nervous of slide-outs as it's so hard to ensure that, in time, they don't leak.
Are all camper vans diesel I believe there’s going to come a time where countries in Europe and uk put restrictions on all diesel vehicles and probably not that far away from doing so
All motorhomes are diesel and 99% of campervans are, too. There are a very few petrol models and a tiny number of electric ones. I think it will be a good few years before Euro VI diesels are a problem, although city centres may be an issue.
For electric campervans see the Feb issue of What Motorhome - www.outandaboutlive.co.uk/motorhomes/store/back-issues/what-motorhome/
Lose the bench seat and have a prep space for the kitchen with storage underneath.
That might be too little lounge space for UK buyers, though
@MotorhomeCampervan I suppose it all comes down to what the buyer wants from a motorhome and how they are going to use it.
Is there such thing as a FWD Sprinter or is actually Renault Master - happy to be wrong here
The Master and Sprinter are not related. The Sprinter comes in FWD, RWD and 4x4 versions
@@MotorhomeCampervan Renault and Mercedes product share and the fwd Sprinter has Renault running gear…
I much prefer the look of A Class motorhomes without the front drop down bed. I don’t know why so many have them, people with young kids don’t really feel like the target market for this kind of vehicle.
Maybe not a couple with their own kids but a couple with grandchildren would find them useful.
It's often about resale. Dealers prefer to have the drop-down bed fitted as it widens the pool of buyers when these 'vans became more affordable on the used market - not just families but for grandchildren, too.
A motorhome with film star looks, you could say that Frankia goes to Hollywood (the cracker jokes won't seem to be so bad after that).
I've always wanted to take a Frankia to Hollyhead, just for the headline I could use...
Dose the chassie pack put it over the 3500 kg B licence
No, you can have the Chassis Pack and still stay under 3,500kg for a Class B licence (just), but be very careful regarding the weight of other options fitted and what you carry (esp in the garage)
Did I miss solar panels? A compressor fridge might need a couple?
I expect most buyers will want SMC to add solar but, again, you'll need to be careful about adding weight if staying under 3,500kg with a useable payload. Some buyers will use site hook-ups and not need solar panels.
The Habitation door is on the wrong side
The continental side, yes, but does it matter? A UK motorhome has the door on the "wrong" side when you go abroad. You don't usually park a 'van like this in the street, either.
For a motorhome that price the sealant finish underneath was terrible looks as if they did it in the dark half the bolts missing on metal anchor points in double floor iteneo or pilote better value and better finish
Generally, the Neo is very well finished, as you'd expect of a premium brand. As for sealant underneath, I'd rather see too much...
Agreed. It was a dogs breakfast and made me wonder how they treat all the other hidden parts.
Nice. Shame no U shaped rear lounge to be a little different and optimised for couples with front drop down. Front makes me think of Ironman 🙂
Love the Ironman analogy.
Would love to see a rear lounge Neo (quite easy for Frankia to change the single beds here to settees), especially as this maker is known for its rear lounge layouts. Maybe for 2024...
So, the chassis package is about £7 more than what Merc would charge you on a car. Bargain.
Prices are probably higher on an LCV. I'd be very surprised if the Chassis Pack didn't offer a useful saving against spec'ing all the extras individually
i prefere niesman is move 6.9
The iSmove has some lovely features - would be great to test one! However, I prefer the Mercedes chassis; N+B only builds on Fiat and Iveco
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mercedes 4 cylinder is bad the real mercedes it was 5 cylinder and the chassis ALKO is the best than mercedes
Awful jagged flat pack cabinetry, Frankia can do better.
I liked it but you can't please everyone. And Frankia still does its bigger, more traditional models for those with bigger budgets (and who don't mind a heavier vehicle)
Yes I am aware of this, but there are many other brands that beat the Frankia A-class on price but still pay more attention to the furniture.
Very expensive but not the best. Would not buy. 🏴
I think it's comparable on price and quality with Hymer and Carthago
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Garbage kitchen, the kitchen is THE most important part of the motor home, lousy product,🤮🤮😢
But to a lot of buyers it isn't the most important aspect. Many will barbecue outside or eat out. Surely, you spend many, many more hours sleeping and driving, so the bedroom and base vehicle are more important than the galley? If you like cooking so much, you'll probably prefer British 'vans
Looks cheap ..sounds expensive
Is it the flat furniture that "looks cheap? Quality is excellent here and the price is comparable to other Merc-based A-classes
Sorry I crashed the motorhome because the sun was in my eyes ? No sun visor, don't reach out of the driving seat because you are not In Control of your vehicle. Insurance company will not pay out????????
Yes, it's something they need to address. But sunvisors (and windscreen wipers and blindspots caused by mirrors, etc) are always worth checking out before you buy any A-class.