The Magach That Even Gaijin Forgot About...

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  • @your_comrade7119
    @your_comrade7119 Місяць тому +118

    meanwhile german m48a2 g a2 is at 8.3 without the era, truely balanced

    • @Scuttle.
      @Scuttle. Місяць тому +31

      bro the og m60 is the same br with only regular sabo and no era

    • @mufinsp0
      @mufinsp0 Місяць тому +16

      Or the 9.0 M60 TTS with a worse round than this

    • @Hambang
      @Hambang Місяць тому +2

      does germany even have anything that is best in its class? maybe tiger and panther that's all i can think of.

    • @athiftsabit1208
      @athiftsabit1208 Місяць тому +5

      Pathetic developer at its finest, 8.0-9.7 are broken af. Lots of imbalance shittery lying there. Since sabot on M60 and unstab + no additional armor on M48A2GA2 already mentioned, don't forget the AMX 30 BRENUS at 8.7 with no stabilizer while always fighting 9.3 all the time, smh.
      If gaijin employee said it's because the apfsds in amx are better (~30mm more pen than DM23), i dare to 1v1 against them. In a battle where everything can pen each other and amx already a paper armor, gun handling is everything.

    • @zafert85
      @zafert85 Місяць тому +5

      zion bias?

  • @swiftie_love
    @swiftie_love Місяць тому +31

    Psssst my man, we Israeli Mains want to continue enjoying this tank at 8.0

    • @Healedbowl72
      @Healedbowl72 Місяць тому +1

      it's not Even fair for others m48/m60 players

    • @micaheiber1419
      @micaheiber1419 16 днів тому +1

      @@Healedbowl72 Me coming around the corner with my silly Italian autoloader:

    • @Healedbowl72
      @Healedbowl72 13 днів тому

      @@micaheiber1419 huh?

  • @chimera2802
    @chimera2802 Місяць тому +37

    The problem with the whole magach line is that they're all pretty good. if you're a good player you can do well with them but almost nobody plays them well

    • @kh5736
      @kh5736 Місяць тому +7

      Another problem is stock vs spaded experience the mobility is just terrible stock

    • @childofconvienience
      @childofconvienience Місяць тому +5

      No the problem is that 8.0 gets 75% Uptiers. And that means fighting whole teams of stabilized tanks in town maps which is the opposite of fun

    • @Optimusprime56241
      @Optimusprime56241 Місяць тому +1

      Nobody plays them because they’re incredibly boring copypaste tanks

  • @harryshuman9637
    @harryshuman9637 Місяць тому +20

    What does US tank crewman think when he sees an Israeli tank?
    "Oh, Magach!"

  • @55....
    @55.... Місяць тому +5

    the 7.7 - 8.3 is such a shit fest and i love it for that

  • @chemtrails746
    @chemtrails746 Місяць тому +2

    man is goated with vehicle identification. he will see a sliver of a vehicle and id it

    • @chimera2802
      @chimera2802 Місяць тому +1

      @@chemtrails746 it comes with experience haha
      I find myself doing the same and doing some nasty callouts just based on sound and map knowledge

  • @raizencore
    @raizencore Місяць тому +6

    Oh magach, here we go again. (pun fully intended)

  • @Kwisss
    @Kwisss Місяць тому +2

    Magach 5, Magach Hydra, Gal Batash (to some extent) and Sabra Mk.1 is the best out of that line.

  • @SteelStormWT
    @SteelStormWT Місяць тому +25

    There are some Chinese medium tanks at 8.0 that have apfsds and a light tank at 7.7!

    • @stijnjanssens571
      @stijnjanssens571 Місяць тому +14

      correct, but the ZTS63 (the 7.7 light) has an 85mm with "only" 227mm pen on the APFSDS and a long reload and no stabiliser.. but it also gets a laser range finder, so i'd actually quite like to try that thing out..

    • @Vergil001
      @Vergil001 Місяць тому +4

      Worst apfsds

    • @SteelStormWT
      @SteelStormWT Місяць тому +3

      @stijnjanssens571 Yeah but still, apfsds at 7.7 is crazy

    • @touchgrass7834
      @touchgrass7834 Місяць тому +1

      I would prefer the heat over the apfsds at 8.0 with the t54/55

    • @touchgrass7834
      @touchgrass7834 Місяць тому +1

      ​@stijnjanssens571 if it also gets heat then I'd just play that. Apfsds with that pen will barely do damage

  • @fly8641
    @fly8641 Місяць тому +6

    my theory is that its still 8.0 because of player statistics, i just checked the player stats and theres 700 people playing the m48a2 g, and 90 people playing the magach 5
    gaijin bases brs of vehicles a lot on player stats (so ive heard), and im guessing the lack of players is the reason

  • @THUNDER_CHIEFWT
    @THUNDER_CHIEFWT Місяць тому +2

    Its so forgotten that i forgot that that thing even exist in WT

  • @farmcat9873
    @farmcat9873 Місяць тому

    I thought it was just my game with that NONSTOP machine gun fire sound during matches. Glad its not just mine.

  • @Honoer
    @Honoer Місяць тому +1

    I seen this the other day just looking through the tech tree and was like doo what???

  • @siuuuuu7832
    @siuuuuu7832 Місяць тому

    Less gooo John!! This thing is amazing like fr insane

  • @Floozy_287
    @Floozy_287 Місяць тому

    Keep up with the great content!

  • @farmcat9873
    @farmcat9873 Місяць тому

    A few Mushroom Tips 🍄with the ole 1 out of a million Magachs in the Israel line

  • @gamergumilyov8579
    @gamergumilyov8579 Місяць тому +5

    Gaijin's Russian bias makes them believe that any American design is just inferior so they underestimate or overestimate them😂

    • @gamergumilyov8579
      @gamergumilyov8579 Місяць тому

      Yes, I know the Magach is an Israeli tank, I'm saying how the Magach is an M48 which was of American origin

  • @Plank_Hill
    @Plank_Hill Місяць тому

    Man that one guy in the second match wanted to get salty, and it just got worse for him from there.

  • @thisangell5935
    @thisangell5935 Місяць тому +13

    When I said the Magach 5 wasnt Scary in Turny's stream Jon, I didnt think you'd take it personally and prove me wrong lol, I think they keep it 8.0 because No stab and generally your avg player will struggle in uptiers as a result
    What I find crazy is, the M60 is the same BR as this thing 💀compression is so poor

    • @BARelement
      @BARelement Місяць тому +1

      BRENUS, and AMX-30 B2 have to be higher BR what for? Especially with that suspension being as bad as it is. And the optics being so narrow like you’re looking through a straw? It shouldn’t be 8.7 while this thing is 8.0 😂.

    • @Ruellee
      @Ruellee Місяць тому +4

      ​@@BARelement They are 8.7 because they have much better mobility, thermals and a laser rangefinder. Also 105 F1 is a better shell

    • @Official_Figsvtowy2
      @Official_Figsvtowy2 Місяць тому

      @@Ruelleedoesn’t the M-51 use that same HEAT shell?

    • @Ruellee
      @Ruellee Місяць тому +1

      @Official_Figsvtowy2 105 F1 APFSDS*

    • @m16-a2
      @m16-a2 Місяць тому

      @@Ruellee TF? My T55 AMD-1 aint got no thermals at that BR! So unfair!

  • @Trey80898
    @Trey80898 Місяць тому +2

    shhh let's keep it on the down low but great gameplay as always

  • @maxim8243
    @maxim8243 Місяць тому +1

    great video nice to see some ppl enjoy the israeli tech

  • @nadmanganianpotasu8109
    @nadmanganianpotasu8109 Місяць тому

    waitin for the epic tiran 4s video

  • @sniffer123-z1o
    @sniffer123-z1o Місяць тому

    16:00 got my first nuke in that map and with the magach 5 lol

  • @deathmacke9474
    @deathmacke9474 Місяць тому

    i really wanna like 8.0 israel but because of the compression where 8.0-8.3 is the BR jump where everyone starts getting stabalizers. its hard to play against 8.7-9.0 because of that and 8.3 is barable. yet the M48/M60 stockgrinds have been byfar the best experiances compared to the other tech trees

  • @iraklimgeladze5223
    @iraklimgeladze5223 Місяць тому

    Megach 5 and Shot kal aleft are so good

  • @mikelangelo1232
    @mikelangelo1232 Місяць тому

    That thing is dirty

  • @seanmarshall5463
    @seanmarshall5463 Місяць тому

    I mean I get why it’s 8.0 kind of, since it doesn’t have a stabilizer… but then what about all the other M60s at the same BR with worse rounds and no ERA

  • @saunajaanuschan7218
    @saunajaanuschan7218 Місяць тому

    I´d like to see you handle BTR-80A in ground battles.

  • @mike1045
    @mike1045 Місяць тому +1

    Oh man, that non stop firing bug drives me crazy, took me far too long to realise they're not actually firing.
    Same with when someone J's out their engine still runs and makes noise.

  • @astrayp01
    @astrayp01 Місяць тому

    Other than no stabilisation of the gun and high caliber machine gun that can shoot down walls, this is the lowest BR tank has APFSDS.

    • @McMentall
      @McMentall Місяць тому +1

      No? there’s also the 7.7 Chinese light tank that has apfsds (forgot the name)

    • @astrayp01
      @astrayp01 Місяць тому +1

      that Chinese copy of Pt76 variant.😂

    • @crazyadam9281
      @crazyadam9281 Місяць тому

      @@astrayp01 there is also the Obj-120 if you want a vehicle that isn't a copy of another tank/tank destroyer.

  • @BARelement
    @BARelement Місяць тому +1

    BRENUS, and AMX-30 B2 gotta go down in BR then lol.

  • @CyberneticArgumentCreator
    @CyberneticArgumentCreator Місяць тому

    Wait - this is the same BR as the Magach 3 with DM23?

  • @xnopyt13
    @xnopyt13 Місяць тому +1

    11:39 Him keeping on shooting is actually a bug, I have encountered it so many time and it’s a client side issue

  • @Hpa513
    @Hpa513 Місяць тому

    Vro let us enjoy our tanks without a nerf 😭🙏🙏

  • @talon9639
    @talon9639 Місяць тому

    It deosnt have a stabilizer but does it have lrf, 8.3 and up i think all vehicles have stabilizers

    • @warthunderclipper
      @warthunderclipper Місяць тому

      No LRF either

    • @talon9639
      @talon9639 Місяць тому

      @warthunderclipper suits well in 8.0 on my opinion. One really good redeeming trait while others are sub par is the range of vehicles I typically see in 8.0 such as the ikv 91 or the strv 103.

  • @laberdude
    @laberdude Місяць тому

    Me who have just 6.7 as highest BR with Israel.. im so tired of grinding another nation with low level crews.

  • @Borg7993
    @Borg7993 Місяць тому

    dm23 at 8.0? HOW???? TELL ME YOUR SECRECTS!!!

    • @deathmacke9474
      @deathmacke9474 Місяць тому

      @@Borg7993 tech tree folders

    • @Borg7993
      @Borg7993 Місяць тому

      @@deathmacke9474 ahhhhhh, yeah okay lols, i dont rlly play israel, am 7.7 at best, trynna get the magach 5, but i didnt know it had apfsds, i just heard it was good lols

  • @shanenonwolfe4109
    @shanenonwolfe4109 Місяць тому

    It will stay at 8.0 since barely anyone plays isreal

  • @S30spark
    @S30spark Місяць тому

    how is the m60 aos a higher br than this

    • @deathmacke9474
      @deathmacke9474 Місяць тому +1

      @@S30spark stabalizer goes a long way

  • @ayuvir
    @ayuvir Місяць тому

    Idk why Jon speaks about german teams when every single one of his videos are essentially him completely destroying any kind of team in exactly the same way.

    • @KamuiProductsInc
      @KamuiProductsInc Місяць тому +2

      Statistically speaking German teams perform the worst of all nations from 2.0-9.0 so it isn't too crazy to rag on them.

    • @ayuvir
      @ayuvir Місяць тому

      @@KamuiProductsInc got a link to those statistics?

    • @shinikarukyukei1093
      @shinikarukyukei1093 Місяць тому +1

      @@ayuvir there is a website called WT Data project that shows a heatmap of win rates per BR level, german players have some of the lowest win rates until they get to Leopard 2s then the win rate goes above 60%

    • @KamuiProductsInc
      @KamuiProductsInc Місяць тому

      @@ayuvir if you look up "WT data project" you can find the win rates by nation at every br range, which you can generally atrribute to team quality. Although, it's biased because it only uses accounts registered on thunderskill

  • @yuanfurbax
    @yuanfurbax Місяць тому

    the usabias is real

  • @gilbertley1309
    @gilbertley1309 Місяць тому +2

    Bro stop spoiling all our tanks.. They are gonna get BR increases and nerfs now

  • @makisomakis3831
    @makisomakis3831 Місяць тому

    @BPA_JonWT what headset are you using??

    • @deathmacke9474
      @deathmacke9474 Місяць тому

      @@makisomakis3831 he is using Philips Fidelio h2xr