After watching James May assemble a mint one of these, it’s so nice to see these old things being revived and you can appreciate their wonderful simplicity.
Hey I notice that y’all use bbs often for fuel tanks cleaning. Might I recommend using broken glass from a car door. Easily obtainable from a junk yard. The glass breaks up into small squares and gives an edge to scrape the inside of the tank where bbs are smooth and I find glass does better.
Thanks for showing on all these z50 and ct 70 bikes without your vids i would not of been able to get my ct70 running like a top again, after 15 years of sitting in a shed. You Guys Rock............
The Orange z50 is a 1974, there is no such thing as a silver tag on them. Most of them were orange in 1974 although there was a couple other options. The Yellow Z50s are all 1976 as it was a one year only color. Hope this helps! Good luck with the projects!
My cousin had an orange z50.. dont know much about it though.. My step brother had a trail 70 and I had an xr80.. These bikes bring back some fun memories, lol
I got a trail 50 in 1968 for Christmas and it started a life long love of two wheeled motorized vehicles! I have a Harley Electra Glide now and I still get that thrill when I ride on a cold day!!
fun fact. at 8 minutes and 14 seconds in the video Isaac is rattling out the contents of the second tank with a desperate look of frustration trying to get the last bb. i had the captions on, it registered your frustration as [Music]! goes to show that there is beauty in all that we do. love you guys, you both inspire me to continue maintaining my stand up gas scooter. recently put a honda gx 50 on it, goes about as fast as the manco.. with John on it.
I have mentioned it before we used a pour in sealer for tanks that worked great! all you had to do is tape the holes with duct tape and pour it in and slosh a first thin coat wait about 30 minutes and add another cup and keep it rotating until dry. It never failed
We had an old mini trail in the early 70's with a solid rear. The whole neighborhood beat the living crap out of that thing but it never stopped on us. Sure wish i still had that thing
i watch every mini bike rebuild 2 or 3 times a year just love seeing my times history come back alive and johns editing is so subtle you don't realize the time he puts in and add the banter and you have a channel that needs to be picked up by a network
You two need to invest in some Red Kote tank liner. Super tough, ethanol protection, usually takes a day to dry. It can be applied over rust if you need it going in a hurry. Edit: looks like you're way ahead of me
In my state ( Washington ) any dirtbike's,atvs,street bikes, go carts boats, etc.. is only in the system for 7 years, without yearly title and tabs after that,you apply for lost title, the state patrol inspect it, issue 3 year temp plate and tags,then new title is sent to you after that. All cost is about $400 when said and done
Bought a brand new ( ordered from the HONDA DEALER ) in 1970 when I was 12 years old with my paper route money a HONDA 50 MINI TRAIL for $242 dollars tax included. It was the most reliable well built little mini bike ever, back then in Minnesota where I lived you could ride them pretty much anywhere and the POLICE didn’t do to much about it, wish I wouldn’t kept it.
Love the burn out. Several years back, I was looking at a Trail 70 and Lifan (out of China) made tons of replacement parts for 50s, 70s and 90s; even complete engines. You could also buy a complete Trail 70 bike, with a bigger engine and electric start, for under $1K. You probably already know all that, but thought I’d pass it in to your viewers, if they are working on a similar project.
Pretty cool to have them little things actually street legal. Rarity for Cars n Cameras. Awesome end of the year burnout. Lookin' forward to more fun in 2021.
That yellow tank is a Sunday Special cause it's so holey/ holie... That color wasn't so much orange as it was more of a metallic copper orange color.. My dad bought me one in early 70s... Beautiful color and most sought after original survivor paint coloring of all of the oem colors except the lemon yellow ones which is just as sought after and valued...
Black tags mean stock standard, silver tags are the stock bike with customised options. . . . . . . Honda still does the same thing to this day on all their models. . . . . . . I have 2 CBR600RR's 1 is standard & has a black tag. . . . . . The other has every factory option available & has a pressed silver tag. . . . . The Tag alone is worth more then the entire bike. . . lucky you !
The decal looks like the one my neighbor had when I was a kid, it was brown not orange and it was a 1975 to 77, I actually had a 1977 xr75. I always thought all Z-50’s had rear suspension, the older QA-50’s didn’t have rear suspension. I grew up with these bikes, the Honda ST-90 the CT-70’s. A friend had a 1975 XR-75 they were still grey and had a 4 speed transmission. Brings back some good memories.
In 1976, I was ten, and I bought a brand new Honda XL70. Basically a miniature CB750, lol. It was street legal (but I wasn't), had headlights, turn signals, etc. Very street suspension. And it was factory orange with black accents. My friend had an XR75, which was much hotter and full on Motocross. It was gray. I T-boned him and broke my leg 🤣🙄.
A couple of guys in my neighborhood had Honda Z-50's in the early 70s. I can distinctly remember how quiet those little things purred. You could barely hear the engine on those bad little boys.
Believe the bolts n bb's are harder steel so they make more impact. Thinking a combo of both would be really efficient. At some point though, enough is.. enough.
The process to deal with dmv sounds like a nightmare in NC. Can't say much VA has you jump through hoops but they don't actually come out an do inspection
Here in Florida as told by our DMV , if there is no title for the vehicle , you are never getting a new title for it . We just called checking on getting titles for a boat and a trailer . NO DICE !! That explains all the boats , trailers , cars and trucks just rotting away all over the place . They need to change that and soon here .
Soak your next tanks in Evaporust, it is like magic. I have used the stuff on rusted parts that I figured to be a lost cause. I have been blowen away everytime. Evaporust is completely safe on paint and i have had no problem with sticker as long as the rust isn't under said stickers.
Your next challenge: Think Flight. Hot air balloon/helium...put that little guy on it and see how high he goes! Or better yet - experimental flying machine....
You can buy something called chemical metal and its got loads of great uses and I've fixed holes in petrol tanks before. It's just like body filler with the hardener that you mix in so only do a little bit at a time until you know how Long it takes to harden.👌😉 It's really good when you have a rare machine and can't find a spare part for it.
The orange paint one is a 1974 z50. The first models with rear suspension was 1972. I don't know why It has a silver tag as the 1969 hardatil z50 is the only one I can find with a silver tag. Could have been transfered from some other model, perhaps a ct70 The other bikes are a later model, The yellow ones that you guys have are 1976 models
i think the silver tag is for off road only and black tag ones came with a title also try some strait vinagar in the tank let it set a few hours and get tolet brush from the dollar store give a squeeze and and scrub the inside see watch what happens.
Gopowersports.com your advertising is working. Someone just asked me where to get parts for a gocart, and if not for the Ducarti and my newfound interest in this channel I'd have never been able to tell them where to go. So keep it up!
@@tallboy2234 Yes, I used a similar reference over there: the headliner to the 63 Buick was saggier than Betty White's t***. The S-10 steering wheel was stickier than Courtney Love's thighs 🤣!
it looks like 90% of getting this to run again is fixing the gas tank. the one bike with the rear suspension looks like the one ive had since about 1985, except that one had a gold/copper flake paint. not orange. it has been sitting for at least 25 some years and this video makes me want to get it out and running again.
I just bought a 185s.x.l. Its an 81,in almost perfect condition. 1300,miles. And now I know how to look for the tag. I've actually got the original title with the advertisement brochures still in the honda envelope.
I would have traded jobs with you this week. I been shaking and turning a big 24 gallon tank out of a 68 Impala trying to clean it. My first bike was a QA50. It was yellow and black. Looked like a bumble bee. Ha.
That's nice to have the process of getting a title for a vehicle that you purchased without one explained! If you look at the DMV website I think they intentionally make it seem like it's an impossible amount of work and never to try it!
Hey guys!! Great channel and I’ve learned a lot about predator engines... which is why I’m reaching out to y’all. So I have a db30 minibike that I just put a predator 212 on it, rode for a week stock and did just fine, gotta knock off mikuni from go power sports last week, I put it on yday and it would crank but stall out due to the governor not being connected “I think”, so I decided I would take the motor apart and actually remove the gov and oil sensor. So I opened it up took out the parts and all went well EXCEPT the smaller gear on the right fell out with the front push rod, I put the rod back in and lined the dots up on the gears and put everything back in place. Resealed the motor, put oil in it and reconnected the gas. Well now it won’t crank to save my life!! I’m getting spark and getting fuel to carb but for some reason it still won’t crank, I’ve adjusted the fuel screw in and out on bottom of mikuni carb and it makes no difference :/ I was mainly wondering what the issue might could be and if something messed up wen the gear and rod fell out, cuz I just put it back in place. Was I supposed to make sure the rod went in a certain way maybe?? Idk wats going on or wat I need to adjust to make it run again and was hoping U guys might have some info about what it might be. I’ve asked everyone I know but no one has any knowledge on small engines and I’m learning as I go lol please please get back to me if u don’t mind via email - bmcdonough7889@gmail.com... I can send u my number if talking in person would be easier lol but I’m thinking I need to adjust the valves or something with the push rods but really need some help on this cuz my kid is ready to ride! But keep up the good work and keep that information coming. Imma keep researching in the mean time. Love u guys and I’m sure “it’ll be fine!” Lol
Next time why don't you go to Harbor Freight and buy one of the Tumblers that they use to clean rocks and stuff and try putting that inside the tank with the powders that they come with and the ceramic Rock things
A great thing for freeing up seized small stuff is soak it in paraffin oil over night. Chains, Valves/Heads and stuff like that. Paraffin gets in everywhere.
One more old Honda saved from the brink!
Are you guys planning on bringing back your racing mower or building a new one?
I see a yellow motorized bike over in the back😶
Message me back on Facebook please I have a snowmobile motor for you guys
@Mini MonkeyGaming same🤣🤣
What a burnout!
After watching James May assemble a mint one of these, it’s so nice to see these old things being revived and you can appreciate their wonderful simplicity.
Yeah, but this isn't a restoration, and have you seen what they do with their old projects?
@@1one3_Racing Yes I have. They put awesome craftsmanship into them and fit them with super powerful engines (for the bike/karts’ size).
@@AlexTrain5249 then abandon them in a shed somewhere and harvest parts from them.
@@Krobear have you ever seen their videos?
@@1one3_Racing there the ones that restored them or fixed them they can do what they want with them
Hey I notice that y’all use bbs often for fuel tanks cleaning. Might I recommend using broken glass from a car door. Easily obtainable from a junk yard. The glass breaks up into small squares and gives an edge to scrape the inside of the tank where bbs are smooth and I find glass does better.
Smart.
Thanks for showing on all these z50 and ct 70 bikes without your vids i would not of been able to get my ct70 running like a top again, after 15 years of sitting in a shed. You Guys Rock............
The Orange z50 is a 1974, there is no such thing as a silver tag on them. Most of them were orange in 1974 although there was a couple other options. The Yellow Z50s are all 1976 as it was a one year only color. Hope this helps! Good luck with the projects!
My cousin had an orange z50.. dont know much about it though.. My step brother had a trail 70 and I had an xr80.. These bikes bring back some fun memories, lol
I got a trail 50 in 1968 for Christmas and it started a life long love of two wheeled motorized vehicles! I have a Harley Electra Glide now and I still get that thrill when I ride on a cold day!!
fun fact. at 8 minutes and 14 seconds in the video Isaac is rattling out the contents of the second tank with a desperate look of frustration trying to get the last bb. i had the captions on, it registered your frustration as [Music]! goes to show that there is beauty in all that we do. love you guys, you both inspire me to continue maintaining my stand up gas scooter. recently put a honda gx 50 on it, goes about as fast as the manco.. with John on it.
I have mentioned it before we used a pour in sealer for tanks that worked great! all you had to do is tape the holes with duct tape and pour it in and slosh a first thin coat wait about 30 minutes and add another cup and keep it rotating until dry. It never failed
I forgot to mention it was sandable and paintable
Brilliant use of an old brake lathe!! I've turned some strange stuff including a flywheel, but never a rock tumbler gas tank cleaner. Genius!!
We had an old mini trail in the early 70's with a solid rear. The whole neighborhood beat the living crap out of that thing but it never stopped on us. Sure wish i still had that thing
i watch every mini bike rebuild 2 or 3 times a year just love seeing my times history come back alive and johns editing is so subtle you don't realize the time he puts in and add the banter and you have a channel that needs to be picked up by a network
When I worked as a tech at a BMW Triumph dealer, all we used was the POR-15. It's great stuff.
That tank would make a cool lamp😂
Really ay? drill 2 more holes and could light up the whole room. ;-)
Turn it upside down, put a light inside and you have a planetarium! lol.
I thought the exact same thing!!!! 🤣 lmao
This would be a sweet bike to add toy collection. Hope you hommies have a great day and ride safe.
Absolutely loving the vintage honda content!
You two need to invest in some Red Kote tank liner. Super tough, ethanol protection, usually takes a day to dry. It can be applied over rust if you need it going in a hurry.
Edit: looks like you're way ahead of me
They had silvertag z50s. They had a 2 tone paint job. Silver and either blue, red, or yellow.
What is a " Silver Tag Bike " ?
@@NoWr2Run It's the earlier models. The model tag on the bike was silver and they are more rare.
In my state ( Washington ) any dirtbike's,atvs,street bikes, go carts boats, etc.. is only in the system for 7 years, without yearly title and tabs after that,you apply for lost title, the state patrol inspect it, issue 3 year temp plate and tags,then new title is sent to you after that. All cost is about $400 when said and done
Those gas tank would make good flower pots. 🌼
Bought a brand new ( ordered from the HONDA DEALER ) in 1970 when I was 12 years old with my paper route money a HONDA 50 MINI TRAIL
for $242 dollars tax included. It was the most reliable well built little mini bike ever, back then in Minnesota where I lived you could ride them pretty much anywhere and the POLICE didn’t do to much about it, wish I wouldn’t kept it.
I’m in class right now but can’t miss a video 💯
me too
@@mr.random4472 much rather learn this than learn the renaissance for the 10th time
@CADEN ZUMBRUNNEN chill I’m not trying to set a bad example
SAME IM IN CLASS TOO
Just finshed watching this video, i could watch u guys all day! Just 2 freinds doing their thing! Love it👍
Fantastic,yeah another classic saved.....thats what its all about👍 love your vids by the way👍👍
I enjoy you guys restoring antique vehicles
Love the burn out. Several years back, I was looking at a Trail 70 and Lifan (out of China) made tons of replacement parts for 50s, 70s and 90s; even complete engines. You could also buy a complete Trail 70 bike, with a bigger engine and electric start, for under $1K. You probably already know all that, but thought I’d pass it in to your viewers, if they are working on a similar project.
Epic burnout. Cool seeing tanks I would have thought too far gone actually made usable again, without too much hassle.
Anything other then a hammer that is used as a hammer is called a persuader.
Hammering with a persuader? Or is it persuading with a persuader?
Pretty cool to have them little things actually street legal. Rarity for Cars n Cameras.
Awesome end of the year burnout. Lookin' forward to more fun in 2021.
That yellow tank is a Sunday Special cause it's so holey/ holie... That color wasn't so much orange as it was more of a metallic copper orange color.. My dad bought me one in early 70s... Beautiful color and most sought after original survivor paint coloring of all of the oem colors except the lemon yellow ones which is just as sought after and valued...
Black tags mean stock standard, silver tags are the stock bike with customised options. . . . . . . Honda still does the same thing to this day on all their models. . . . . . . I have 2 CBR600RR's 1 is standard & has a black tag. . . . . . The other has every factory option available & has a pressed silver tag. . . . . The Tag alone is worth more then the entire bike. . . lucky you !
currently building a racing lawnmower. love the vids
Me 2
Me 3 you can buy it on Facebook marketplace
What motor you running
20hp briggs intec
Dude same
In 1972 honda did a way with the hard tail rear frame and added the rear(soft tail) suspension du to cracking in the rear frame
The decal looks like the one my neighbor had when I was a kid, it was brown not orange and it was a 1975 to 77, I actually had a 1977 xr75. I always thought all Z-50’s had rear suspension, the older QA-50’s didn’t have rear suspension. I grew up with these bikes, the Honda ST-90 the CT-70’s. A friend had a 1975 XR-75 they were still grey and had a 4 speed transmission. Brings back some good memories.
i dig the roku tv in the back
My grandfather owned one of these back in the 80s, I've been looking to buy one restored but this is the only place I've ever seen them since then
You guys are cornering the market on minibikes. Good thing about them they don't take up as much room as a car.
I have used that Por 15 tank sealer on my gas tank. No issues.
The por 15 tank sealer is good👌sweet burn out
10:25 looks and sounds like Ike is just taking a piss hahahaahah
Hahaha
I think that silver tank might work good as a lamp! Set up an LED light source inside, let the light shine out through the holes.
In 1976, I was ten, and I bought a brand new Honda XL70. Basically a miniature CB750, lol. It was street legal (but I wasn't), had headlights, turn signals, etc. Very street suspension. And it was factory orange with black accents. My friend had an XR75, which was much hotter and full on Motocross. It was gray. I T-boned him and broke my leg 🤣🙄.
We always used a few pieces of some jack chain in a tank and it also works great!
When cleaning the tanks use white vinegar with the bolts and nuts and such
A couple of guys in my neighborhood had Honda Z-50's in the early 70s. I can distinctly remember how quiet those little things purred. You could barely hear the engine on those bad little boys.
I've used fish tank gravel on the inside of my fuel tanks...never tried the BB's/nuts/bolts
Believe the bolts n bb's are harder steel so they make more impact.
Thinking a combo of both would be really efficient. At some point though, enough is.. enough.
Evaporust is also useful.
Bbs are round you want rough sharp edges. Just use regular gravel. You want all the metal shiny inside. Or use vinegar.
Nice use of the adjustable hammer!
The process to deal with dmv sounds like a nightmare in NC. Can't say much VA has you jump through hoops but they don't actually come out an do inspection
You all should build a minitrail 50 sidehack build. Just for shots and giggles. Never grow up lads, doesn't pay any better!
Ripper burn out man keep them 🔥
My first bike was a 1977 Honda Z50. If I’m not mistaken it was orange and blue. Now that was 37 years ago so I could be wrong but I don’t think I am.
Here in Florida as told by our DMV , if there is no title for the vehicle , you are never getting a new title for it . We just called checking on getting titles for a boat and a trailer . NO DICE !! That explains all the boats , trailers , cars and trucks just rotting away all over the place . They need to change that and soon here .
One hundred percent need more mini bike builds
Soak your next tanks in Evaporust, it is like magic. I have used the stuff on rusted parts that I figured to be a lost cause. I have been blowen away everytime. Evaporust is completely safe on paint and i have had no problem with sticker as long as the rust isn't under said stickers.
Shaking the old gas tanks was like trying to get the last penny out of your piggy bank lol
Right on guys saved another 👍 nice burnout🖖.
Your next challenge: Think Flight. Hot air balloon/helium...put that little guy on it and see how high he goes! Or better yet - experimental flying machine....
Lol I like how Isac "describes" the rust with sound
The tank with all the holes in it would make a cool light fixture
Can't wait to see these bikes on the road!
3:20
Ah the elusive wrench/hammer/body alignment tool/American nut rounder 🤣
You can buy something called chemical metal and its got loads of great uses and I've fixed holes in petrol tanks before.
It's just like body filler with the hardener that you mix in so only do a little bit at a time until you know how Long it takes to harden.👌😉
It's really good when you have a rare machine and can't find a spare part for it.
Back in 1977 I had a 1970 Honda 50 that was orange and had rear suspension, but the tag I couldn't tell you what it was.
Don't forget the 1972 Honda QA50. I had one in 72. It was green Won it in a shoe store give away. Y'all need to find one. These are very rare.
The orange paint one is a 1974 z50. The first models with rear suspension was 1972. I don't know why It has a silver tag as the 1969 hardatil z50 is the only one I can find with a silver tag. Could have been transfered from some other model, perhaps a ct70
The other bikes are a later model, The yellow ones that you guys have are 1976 models
Sure wish Honda would bring back the Trail 70 and the 50 they were awesome.
Please road trip z50s to South America !!
It hurt watching all that dirt pour out of the tank. But it was like ripping off a bandaid since I knew it was gonna be all better.
About the soldering: "Bigger the blob, better the job!" :)
i think the silver tag is for off road only and black tag ones came with a title also try some strait vinagar in the tank let it set a few hours and get tolet brush from the dollar store give a squeeze and and scrub the inside see watch what happens.
The look of disdain while shaking out that silver tank..🙈
The answer is always YES
I have always liked the Honda Z50s. Great video about what it takes it get one moving again.
Use those rusty tanks to make a cafe racer tail, z50 cafe style would be funny..
Gopowersports.com your advertising is working. Someone just asked me where to get parts for a gocart, and if not for the Ducarti and my newfound interest in this channel I'd have never been able to tell them where to go. So keep it up!
That silver gas tank's inside is probably like Betty White's...oh, never mind🐱.
😂🤣😂🤣👍VGG!
@@tallboy2234 Yes, I used a similar reference over there: the headliner to the 63 Buick was saggier than Betty White's t***. The S-10 steering wheel was stickier than Courtney Love's thighs 🤣!
it looks like 90% of getting this to run again is fixing the gas tank.
the one bike with the rear suspension looks like the one ive had since about 1985, except that one had a gold/copper flake paint. not orange.
it has been sitting for at least 25 some years and this video makes me want to get it out and running again.
You guys are awesome!
I just bought a 185s.x.l.
Its an 81,in almost perfect condition. 1300,miles.
And now I know how to look for the tag.
I've actually got the original title with the advertisement brochures still in the honda envelope.
Your DMV makes house calls? I like your state.
Silver tag bikes did not come with the title. Looks like you have a 1974 Z50AK5 The color was called candy topaz Orange.
I would have traded jobs with you this week. I been shaking and turning a big 24 gallon tank out of a 68 Impala trying to clean it. My first bike was a QA50. It was yellow and black. Looked like a bumble bee. Ha.
That was a good ol’ Smokey burnout!!
Thought for a second there that I was watching a craft channel and you were making rustic art lampshades! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Another one saved! Way to go guys. 👍
Use acetone in the tanks it is very helpful and it does the work for you basically
Nice use of a brake lathe
That's nice to have the process of getting a title for a vehicle that you purchased without one explained! If you look at the DMV website I think they intentionally make it seem like it's an impossible amount of work and never to try it!
It can be difficult
Nice AMSOIL jacket
Need to build a die stamp to press out some fuel tanks and try to make them look as close to original
Hey! Whens gonna be the next bosco beach episode i love these type of videos! Btw great content 😁
Save as many honda minitrails for future generations..good work guys
Hey guys!! Great channel and I’ve learned a lot about predator engines... which is why I’m reaching out to y’all. So I have a db30 minibike that I just put a predator 212 on it, rode for a week stock and did just fine, gotta knock off mikuni from go power sports last week, I put it on yday and it would crank but stall out due to the governor not being connected “I think”, so I decided I would take the motor apart and actually remove the gov and oil sensor. So I opened it up took out the parts and all went well EXCEPT the smaller gear on the right fell out with the front push rod, I put the rod back in and lined the dots up on the gears and put everything back in place. Resealed the motor, put oil in it and reconnected the gas. Well now it won’t crank to save my life!! I’m getting spark and getting fuel to carb but for some reason it still won’t crank, I’ve adjusted the fuel screw in and out on bottom of mikuni carb and it makes no difference :/ I was mainly wondering what the issue might could be and if something messed up wen the gear and rod fell out, cuz I just put it back in place. Was I supposed to make sure the rod went in a certain way maybe?? Idk wats going on or wat I need to adjust to make it run again and was hoping U guys might have some info about what it might be. I’ve asked everyone I know but no one has any knowledge on small engines and I’m learning as I go lol please please get back to me if u don’t mind via email - bmcdonough7889@gmail.com... I can send u my number if talking in person would be easier lol but I’m thinking I need to adjust the valves or something with the push rods but really need some help on this cuz my kid is ready to ride! But keep up the good work and keep that information coming. Imma keep researching in the mean time. Love u guys and I’m sure “it’ll be fine!” Lol
Now I understand why everybody hates the DMV.. when I turned 16, I had my licence plates for my bike, in like 5 minutes :o (the Netherlands)
Ike's beard is looking majestic.
Next time why don't you go to Harbor Freight and buy one of the Tumblers that they use to clean rocks and stuff and try putting that inside the tank with the powders that they come with and the ceramic Rock things
A great thing for freeing up seized small stuff is soak it in paraffin oil over night. Chains, Valves/Heads and stuff like that. Paraffin gets in everywhere.
LOL! Im diggin the brake lathe @ 5:16...great idea!
Try vinager it’ll eat the rust away and with the bbs it’ll make it look brand new inside
You should perhaps think of cutting the bottom out the tanks and just use them as a cover to go over one of the small tanks I’ve seen you use