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Every green deck would be heavily compromised if Dormant Potential was banned. I agree with generally every single thing you articulate in your videos but the most applicable reasoning I can see Bandai even considering banning this card is simply because it's Bandai as you stated and not necessarily for it having "too many floodgates." Technically Yellow has more floodgates, even archetype-oriented ones. Bardock, Vegito, Nimbus, Riposte? I'm praying some of what you believe is going to transpire has as much ground as the prediction you made about green long ago when Charismatic went to 1 and you stated numerous times in your video "Green is dead now" then the subsequent events still consisted of Green Gohan topping. Green would be in an infinitely worse situation than red was in previously to them getting explosive dance if Dormant left, at that juncture you could say "Green is dead." This game is in an extremely healthy place as you've said. To me gameplay-wise the only thing I find to be obnoxious in free value is black's counter: play, the "SS4 Son Goku & SS4 Vegeta, Striking a Weak Point" -- it is everything Charismatic wishes it was and more outside of addressing only 5s and under as opposed to 7. It's a bigger body, and serves three different functions Charismatic never did or could. Someone could argue Bulma the Bunny Girl is completely free as well, but hitting her would be a collateral effect on other decks that didn't deserve to get whacked just because one is hyperperforming. Hitting something integral to the engine without crippling it beyond belief would be smarter instead of incidentally sniping other decks in the process just to cater to 1. With all due respect I hope you're really wrong about Dormant, and I know you want to be wrong about some of your predictions like you said in your video. As someone who loves King Piccolo I'm desperately wishing they bring that unison back to 4 or change the quantity, I know you said the future is z-unisons but they literally just printed a z-unison for the deck that fetches the old one directly to put it on board. I think it would be mighty strange if there was a unison created for the sake of a Unison hardlocked at 1 which you would have to pray it's in your deck every time since it only can be played directly from the deck by the Reich Pilaf's effect. If you're right then you're right, it is what it is. But if that's the case every KP player is going to be scratching their head on why they even bothered with creating that z-unison outside of the +1. Keep up the great content as always, Demian, cheers.
Even though Beyond All Limits is a wildcard prediction, I don't think there is a world where he gets banned or limited; considering Heated Fighting Spirit's other way of getting played is with a Xeno Goku in play with 30k or more, that leaves him with a few other very specific targets that never see play in any decks, therefore making him much, much weaker. He is strong, but I doubt he'll get hit considering how much SS4 Vegeta sells.
That's a good argument but, as with all things, SS4 Vegeta selling on the secondary market doesn't make money :/ I think the biggest problem with Beyond has always been that it can let you to play extra copies of cards in your deck, for free. True, it is better with Vegito and fetching SS4 Vegeta but it is one of those cards which feels like a problem waiting to happen, if that makes sense :)
@@TheLookoutDBS I'm aware that secondary market sales don't do anything for Bandai, but that may encourage them to reprint him in some fashion, since they know how popular and wanted he is atm. But still, he is quite the pain to get around considering he's a 30k free play that gets you many, many useful cards. I can get why you put him on the list lol
@@TheLookoutDBS Yeah I really hate that since black has cards like ss3 gogeta thwarting, even if I get rid of it once, it'll just come back to their hand thanks to ss4 goku
Absolutely agreed! Dormant helps so many other green decks have a chance and if Uneasing gets banned, then green saiyan decks will still have dormant to rely on. If Dormant gets banned, all non-saiyan decks are screwed
Dont think Uneasing or Dormant should be touched. Other colours have many negates too. Reds E-Dance is more stupid than most. With 90% of negates, its optional if you want to punish yourself for pushing through say whether by resting a card or discarding one. With E-Dance, it doesnt even give you a choice to push through, at times locking you out completely. However, if green were to be hit, King Cold should just be errated to if your leader is a 'Green Frieza Clan: (auto)' 🤷♂️
Doesnt the trunks lead need an errata? Doesnt say SS vegeta. Would also be very sad if dormant AND awakened rage got hit. Neither of those cards bug me as much as explosive dance (which is in an aggro color too). I say ban rage and call it a day.
I absolutely don't see Dormant being banned, and I also don't see Uneasing touched. Disclaimer bias: Im a green player. But also, I just think there is no reason. "Oh green many floodgates" well look at yellow. "Oh but yellow is a defensive color and green is offensive" then why there's aggro decks in yellow, and why red and black have their very good floodgates? I think floodgates are needed, because the game is very out of hand with the offensive. The only thing floodgate related I would sign is adding a discard cost to Explosive dance because "oh but you see, Explosive dance has a cost, requires you to have this 40k worth of combo card on board" doesn't sound as an argument to me. More to that, with TP Golden Frieza coming to put a blocker for free on that card's activation. Hmmm 🤔
@@TheLookoutDBS You know what? I can take that argument. But if there's any reason why I didn't thought of that is... because I find that uneasing is usually don't used as a free floodgate. Is a very detrimental effect. I play Green Goku for example, and I saw some players, and I agree, saying that the best thing about Uneasing is "free counter after free dormant". But I can take that argument.
Progenitor can definitely come off the list at this point but if they are going to retrain the Goku's Lineage in the future. I also think they can bring SS3 Gogeta to come off the list. It would be real nice to have more than 1 aggro black deck in the game. Like he can be errata'd to have to pay for his effect. But that's a personal wish
Im playing green only for years and im happy with its current state. Heck i got even first on a recent regional in germany. But im pretty sure bann or limit dormant == quiting. I have other hobbys to invest instead so lets see
i think uneasing and and dromant just shouldn't be free. No uninteractible floodgate should be free, even when discarding card, since decks draw so much it's barely even a cost. The problem is not that green has too many floodgates, problem is that they are instantly free since turn 2 and they are extra cards. Total anihilation just straight up ban, limiting card to 1 just does nothing. It's the same discussion we had weith cooler CC. I can see beyond all limits getting hit as the card which "limits future deck design"
Bandai already did that with the yellow Pan that lets you attack again with a generic yellow battle card, the one you use with the hit me harder baby deck.
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Thank you for being with us during these times. Really, really appreciated!
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Bandai seeing this: hold my beer. We going to errata spy robot... thats it.
Every green deck would be heavily compromised if Dormant Potential was banned. I agree with generally every single thing you articulate in your videos but the most applicable reasoning I can see Bandai even considering banning this card is simply because it's Bandai as you stated and not necessarily for it having "too many floodgates." Technically Yellow has more floodgates, even archetype-oriented ones. Bardock, Vegito, Nimbus, Riposte? I'm praying some of what you believe is going to transpire has as much ground as the prediction you made about green long ago when Charismatic went to 1 and you stated numerous times in your video "Green is dead now" then the subsequent events still consisted of Green Gohan topping. Green would be in an infinitely worse situation than red was in previously to them getting explosive dance if Dormant left, at that juncture you could say "Green is dead." This game is in an extremely healthy place as you've said. To me gameplay-wise the only thing I find to be obnoxious in free value is black's counter: play, the "SS4 Son Goku & SS4 Vegeta, Striking a Weak Point" -- it is everything Charismatic wishes it was and more outside of addressing only 5s and under as opposed to 7. It's a bigger body, and serves three different functions Charismatic never did or could. Someone could argue Bulma the Bunny Girl is completely free as well, but hitting her would be a collateral effect on other decks that didn't deserve to get whacked just because one is hyperperforming. Hitting something integral to the engine without crippling it beyond belief would be smarter instead of incidentally sniping other decks in the process just to cater to 1.
With all due respect I hope you're really wrong about Dormant, and I know you want to be wrong about some of your predictions like you said in your video. As someone who loves King Piccolo I'm desperately wishing they bring that unison back to 4 or change the quantity, I know you said the future is z-unisons but they literally just printed a z-unison for the deck that fetches the old one directly to put it on board. I think it would be mighty strange if there was a unison created for the sake of a Unison hardlocked at 1 which you would have to pray it's in your deck every time since it only can be played directly from the deck by the Reich Pilaf's effect. If you're right then you're right, it is what it is. But if that's the case every KP player is going to be scratching their head on why they even bothered with creating that z-unison outside of the +1.
Keep up the great content as always, Demian, cheers.
Even though Beyond All Limits is a wildcard prediction, I don't think there is a world where he gets banned or limited; considering Heated Fighting Spirit's other way of getting played is with a Xeno Goku in play with 30k or more, that leaves him with a few other very specific targets that never see play in any decks, therefore making him much, much weaker. He is strong, but I doubt he'll get hit considering how much SS4 Vegeta sells.
That's a good argument but, as with all things, SS4 Vegeta selling on the secondary market doesn't make money :/
I think the biggest problem with Beyond has always been that it can let you to play extra copies of cards in your deck, for free. True, it is better with Vegito and fetching SS4 Vegeta but it is one of those cards which feels like a problem waiting to happen, if that makes sense :)
@@TheLookoutDBS I'm aware that secondary market sales don't do anything for Bandai, but that may encourage them to reprint him in some fashion, since they know how popular and wanted he is atm.
But still, he is quite the pain to get around considering he's a 30k free play that gets you many, many useful cards. I can get why you put him on the list lol
@@TheLookoutDBS Yeah I really hate that since black has cards like ss3 gogeta thwarting, even if I get rid of it once, it'll just come back to their hand thanks to ss4 goku
"Patá en locíco" aka Uneasing needs to get banned or limited, not Dormant, 'cause Dormant is universal, the Uneasing saiyan only.
Absolutely agreed! Dormant helps so many other green decks have a chance and if Uneasing gets banned, then green saiyan decks will still have dormant to rely on. If Dormant gets banned, all non-saiyan decks are screwed
Dont think Uneasing or Dormant should be touched. Other colours have many negates too. Reds E-Dance is more stupid than most. With 90% of negates, its optional if you want to punish yourself for pushing through say whether by resting a card or discarding one. With E-Dance, it doesnt even give you a choice to push through, at times locking you out completely. However, if green were to be hit, King Cold should just be errated to if your leader is a 'Green Frieza Clan: (auto)' 🤷♂️
Doesnt the trunks lead need an errata? Doesnt say SS vegeta. Would also be very sad if dormant AND awakened rage got hit. Neither of those cards bug me as much as explosive dance (which is in an aggro color too). I say ban rage and call it a day.
totally agree!
I absolutely don't see Dormant being banned, and I also don't see Uneasing touched.
Disclaimer bias: Im a green player.
But also, I just think there is no reason. "Oh green many floodgates" well look at yellow. "Oh but yellow is a defensive color and green is offensive" then why there's aggro decks in yellow, and why red and black have their very good floodgates?
I think floodgates are needed, because the game is very out of hand with the offensive.
The only thing floodgate related I would sign is adding a discard cost to Explosive dance because "oh but you see, Explosive dance has a cost, requires you to have this 40k worth of combo card on board" doesn't sound as an argument to me. More to that, with TP Golden Frieza coming to put a blocker for free on that card's activation. Hmmm 🤔
I think that, in case of green, it isn't "too many floodgates" but rather "too many free floodgates" which other colors don't have
@@TheLookoutDBS You know what? I can take that argument. But if there's any reason why I didn't thought of that is... because I find that uneasing is usually don't used as a free floodgate. Is a very detrimental effect. I play Green Goku for example, and I saw some players, and I agree, saying that the best thing about Uneasing is "free counter after free dormant".
But I can take that argument.
Progenitor can definitely come off the list at this point but if they are going to retrain the Goku's Lineage in the future.
I also think they can bring SS3 Gogeta to come off the list. It would be real nice to have more than 1 aggro black deck in the game. Like he can be errata'd to have to pay for his effect. But that's a personal wish
Please don’t touch green. I love ending my opponents turn with two attacks.
Eeeeeh I think that at least 1 floodgate is gonna go
just bann king cold or uneasinng but killing dormant kills 80% of all green decks that arent saiyans
@@Mijastik i wouldn’t mind if those other two are hit. I primarily run green and don’t want to shelf 20 or so dormants haha
They just reprinted king cold in the recent regional prizing.
Im playing green only for years and im happy with its current state.
Heck i got even first on a recent regional in germany.
But im pretty sure bann or limit dormant == quiting.
I have other hobbys to invest instead so lets see
i think uneasing and and dromant just shouldn't be free. No uninteractible floodgate should be free, even when discarding card, since decks draw so much it's barely even a cost. The problem is not that green has too many floodgates, problem is that they are instantly free since turn 2 and they are extra cards.
Total anihilation just straight up ban, limiting card to 1 just does nothing. It's the same discussion we had weith cooler CC.
I can see beyond all limits getting hit as the card which "limits future deck design"
🐰 girl limit 1… or banned my prediction. It’s use has become more broken than originally intended is my reasoning 🙌 love it tho 😅
Could they ban the Dormant Potential with Gohan and Killin on it, but let live the Dormant Potential with Vegeta? Asking for a friend.
just errata bunny girl to only work with red earthling leaders easy fix
hit uneasingif anything, dont touch my other green decks pls
They hit dormant, green will be dead
Pretty good list. Hate to see dormant go. Bunny girl shouldn't be hit just because of a new leader. Id be fine with nothing being touched. 🤷♂️
Bandai already did that with the yellow Pan that lets you attack again with a generic yellow battle card, the one you use with the hit me harder baby deck.
Demian noooooo, Bunny Girl HAS to go. By a lot the most important card to hit here.
Oh I know that but I also know Bandai xD
Free my boy KP
BANdai
Unban flute! And reprint it alt art to make money lol
Unban Bardock the Progenitor right nao
Unban Dirty Burst and Bardock the progenitor 😊.