Sure is! Home educators have work cut out for them either way! But I did want to bring some context to the "lie" that Charlotte Mason would've hated new books.
Thank you for being a breath of fresh air on the internet❤ I love your musings on classical education even as a mother of slightly older kids, but I also truly appreciate your taste in art, haha! I saw Snap the Whip and felt like this video was meant for me, W. Homer is one our favorites. Love the tie with your topic to a more modern artist!
Perfect timing as I'm preparing for memberships to open and second guessing myself on which option to choose! I'm currently reading Formation of Character which mentions the 20 year rule of thumb, at least for evening lecture reading! It's on page 223.
Classification has undergone a bit of an upheaval since the ability to do things like DNA sequencing has happened. Before that it was a lot of “these animals have these things in common so we put them in the same group”
Timely episode. My son recently told me that his favorite book we use for school is “The World at Home” which Mason herself also called old-fashioned (!) It was written in 1870 and I prefer to look at it more as an anthropological record of different cultures traditional ways of life. We actually started off using the updated version (The New World at Home), but eventually switched because it felt like some of the “magic” of that book was taken out by the updates! My son wanted to hear about the Patagonian giants and I just couldn’t stomach the “updated” language that seemed to sort of look down on people in the past “who believed in giants but we know better now”. I feel like the whole mindset of people who need the newest latest greatest most up to date politically correct book is the implication that people in the past were dumber than us! I just can’t stand it! Haha.
I have been a follower of your channel for a long time now and I am currently getting ready to start my almost 6 year old in Form 1B (and I couldnt be more excited OMG I've been waiting his whole life to start homeschooing! 😂). I bought the CMEC membership last year so I could familiarize myself with their curriculum which I absolutely love. BUT...I am worried that I do not know enough about Charlotte Mason's methods to be able to set up my own lesson plans which is why The Alveary has caught my eye as of late. With them I am worried about their curriculum possibly being too "woke" or progressive for my family and I feel a strong pull toward sticking with CMEC but I am worried I won't be able to do CM justice if I am left to my own devices. So my question is, how would you encourage a new Charlotte Mason mother-teacher to come up with her own lesson plans and stick to the old tried and true curriculum and books the CMEC chooses rather than use the curriculum that provides more hand holding in the first years? HELP! I feel like I'm having an existential crisis.
Look at the CMEC's "Method of a Lesson" resource! It's very helpful. If you want to join Common House, I also detailed how to set up form lessons and common subjects (along with all of my planning process) in last year's "summer planning series"! commonhouse.mn.co Happy first year!!
@@HosiePosie13 We'd love to have you and I think you'd be so happy about the group's wisdom, helpfulness, and "fellows" threads of practical and philosophical knowledge!
I wish we didn’t have to choose between modern and accurate and dated but beautiful so often. People like Donna-Jean Breckinridge updating amazing books to be more accurate without changing the style deserve so much credit for meeting that need.
Thanks for this video! I’m wondering how we can tell which old books have accurate information and which ones don’t- especially if we have a knowledge deficit in that area ourselves? Is there a specific way to know or place to look?
Ah, I don't know. For me, I had some helpful notes through the CMEC about which books might need updating but for little things like the Burgess rabbit comment, I have no idea how I was supposed to know that.
Ha - I’m new to CM specific literature but I also picked up that “rabbits are rodents” from somewhere…my childhood until today 🤯😂 Somebody should really be passing the word around lol. Google says they haven’t been rodents since 1912! Lol
Wonderful points! Just wondering if you could give an update about your experience with the CMEC? I would love to see behind the pay wall but the $300 investment is holding me back. Thank you! 🐰🐰
I think I only made that first term of year one video, right? Ha! We've had another lovely year and I think the CMEC is a tremendous program. From guides to mother-teacher resources, they really aim for excellence and to equip in everything. I haven't made anymore videos (and won't) because (1) There's a privacy agreement to protect their planning/work in creating the programmes and it's very hard not to violate it when talking about specifics! (2) I aim more general philosophy than sharing my personal life (although they get mixed!) and after making the first one, I thought, "Eh, that was probably enough." The CMEC is very helpful and are happy to answer questions via email. They also have an information packet online that shares a TON of information and examples of subject guides!
@@thecommonplacehomeschool Do you feel like it is worth the $300? Do you think you might stick with it? If you don't want to answer that is fine, just hoping it's a worthwhile investment if we take the plunge... :)
Thanks for the food for thought! I needed that. You articulated your point very clearly and it really is a balanced way to look at the new book vs old book debate.
Thank you for bringing clarity on this! I hope it brings encouragement and gives confidence to mother-teachers in the choices they make.
Thank you!
There is also wrong, like factually wrong, information in new/modern books.
Sure is! Home educators have work cut out for them either way! But I did want to bring some context to the "lie" that Charlotte Mason would've hated new books.
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So, so encouraging and helpful, as always! Thanks, Autumn 🤎
You're quite welcome!
Thank you for being a breath of fresh air on the internet❤ I love your musings on classical education even as a mother of slightly older kids, but I also truly appreciate your taste in art, haha! I saw Snap the Whip and felt like this video was meant for me, W. Homer is one our favorites. Love the tie with your topic to a more modern artist!
Woo! I enjoy choosing art for the covers and try to make them relate, but, sometimes, I just really like something and want to use it! Ha!
Perfect timing as I'm preparing for memberships to open and second guessing myself on which option to choose!
I'm currently reading Formation of Character which mentions the 20 year rule of thumb, at least for evening lecture reading! It's on page 223.
Ah, another one! Thank you!
I learned something new at 34. We're never too old. Rabbits are not rodents. Thank you!😂
Just trying to help everyone one rabbit fact at a time now...
Classification has undergone a bit of an upheaval since the ability to do things like DNA sequencing has happened. Before that it was a lot of “these animals have these things in common so we put them in the same group”
Do you plan on using the older books suggested by CMEC? Or switch to something like Alveary with newer science books?
I've still been using the older ones (and doing the work to adjust when needed) for the early years!
@@thecommonplacehomeschool makes sense. My children love Burgess and Arabella Buckley.
Have you found an accurate alternative to Burgess that your family enjoys?
We haven't made swaps for Burgess but we did swap Arabella Buckley with Blanchan since Buckely was sometimes incorrect and UK-based.
We're using Christian Liberty Nature Readers. They're beautiful and the information is accurate.
Timely episode. My son recently told me that his favorite book we use for school is “The World at Home” which Mason herself also called old-fashioned (!) It was written in 1870 and I prefer to look at it more as an anthropological record of different cultures traditional ways of life.
We actually started off using the updated version (The New World at Home), but eventually switched because it felt like some of the “magic” of that book was taken out by the updates! My son wanted to hear about the Patagonian giants and I just couldn’t stomach the “updated” language that seemed to sort of look down on people in the past “who believed in giants but we know better now”. I feel like the whole mindset of people who need the newest latest greatest most up to date politically correct book is the implication that people in the past were dumber than us! I just can’t stand it! Haha.
Ooh yes, the "chronological snobbery" (a la Lewis) is a whole different conversation and definitely something to keep an ear for when reading a book!
I have been a follower of your channel for a long time now and I am currently getting ready to start my almost 6 year old in Form 1B (and I couldnt be more excited OMG I've been waiting his whole life to start homeschooing! 😂). I bought the CMEC membership last year so I could familiarize myself with their curriculum which I absolutely love. BUT...I am worried that I do not know enough about Charlotte Mason's methods to be able to set up my own lesson plans which is why The Alveary has caught my eye as of late. With them I am worried about their curriculum possibly being too "woke" or progressive for my family and I feel a strong pull toward sticking with CMEC but I am worried I won't be able to do CM justice if I am left to my own devices.
So my question is, how would you encourage a new Charlotte Mason mother-teacher to come up with her own lesson plans and stick to the old tried and true curriculum and books the CMEC chooses rather than use the curriculum that provides more hand holding in the first years? HELP! I feel like I'm having an existential crisis.
Look at the CMEC's "Method of a Lesson" resource! It's very helpful.
If you want to join Common House, I also detailed how to set up form lessons and common subjects (along with all of my planning process) in last year's "summer planning series"! commonhouse.mn.co
Happy first year!!
Thank you so much I do think I’ll join the Commonplace as I’ve been thinking of doing it for a while! Thank you!
@@HosiePosie13 We'd love to have you and I think you'd be so happy about the group's wisdom, helpfulness, and "fellows" threads of practical and philosophical knowledge!
I wish we didn’t have to choose between modern and accurate and dated but beautiful so often. People like Donna-Jean Breckinridge updating amazing books to be more accurate without changing the style deserve so much credit for meeting that need.
Right? This is definitely part of our generation's home education work!
Thanks for this video! I’m wondering how we can tell which old books have accurate information and which ones don’t- especially if we have a knowledge deficit in that area ourselves? Is there a specific way to know or place to look?
Ah, I don't know. For me, I had some helpful notes through the CMEC about which books might need updating but for little things like the Burgess rabbit comment, I have no idea how I was supposed to know that.
Ha - I’m new to CM specific literature but I also picked up that “rabbits are rodents” from somewhere…my childhood until today 🤯😂
Somebody should really be passing the word around lol. Google says they haven’t been rodents since 1912! Lol
Just doing my part to pass along knowledge, you know?
Wonderful points! Just wondering if you could give an update about your experience with the CMEC? I would love to see behind the pay wall but the $300 investment is holding me back. Thank you! 🐰🐰
I think I only made that first term of year one video, right? Ha! We've had another lovely year and I think the CMEC is a tremendous program. From guides to mother-teacher resources, they really aim for excellence and to equip in everything.
I haven't made anymore videos (and won't) because (1) There's a privacy agreement to protect their planning/work in creating the programmes and it's very hard not to violate it when talking about specifics! (2) I aim more general philosophy than sharing my personal life (although they get mixed!) and after making the first one, I thought, "Eh, that was probably enough."
The CMEC is very helpful and are happy to answer questions via email. They also have an information packet online that shares a TON of information and examples of subject guides!
@@thecommonplacehomeschool Do you feel like it is worth the $300? Do you think you might stick with it? If you don't want to answer that is fine, just hoping it's a worthwhile investment if we take the plunge... :)
@@StorybookHouse I think it's worth the $300, especially if you're looking to learn the Mason philosophy and application!
Ha! “Please hold. Must mother.” Very relatable, very on brand. 😂
The sound was too loud for me not to investigate...
So wait....birds aren't "people!?" -burgess bird book 🤣❤️
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Sabbath mood has an awesome booklist of newer books for science and nature study. free on her website.
Thank you!
Thanks for the food for thought! I needed that. You articulated your point very clearly and it really is a balanced way to look at the new book vs old book debate.
You're quite welcome!
❤❤❤ timely. Thank you so much.
You're quite welcome!