ENGLAND DELUDED? MOST TALENTED BOKS EVER? WALES v AUS = TWO POOR TEAMS? 30K(ish) Viewer Comments

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  • @nicholaswoodward8191
    @nicholaswoodward8191 3 місяці тому +8

    As a Saffir I back wales against Australia. There were definately more than glimmers of hope against SA last week. Come on Wales!!

  • @johanschoeman869
    @johanschoeman869 3 місяці тому +15

    We welcome the Irish with open arms. Great rugby team and very nice supporters. It is going to be great and i hope we will see more of them in the future.
    Nobody but nobody , goes to NZ and think it is going to be easy. England might have improved but taking on our old foe in their back yard is very very difficult to come out on top.Good luck to them, may the best team win.

    • @liamwilliams6651
      @liamwilliams6651 3 місяці тому

      You will have us every second year after this tour with the Nations Cup 😅

    • @juanpierrebosch
      @juanpierrebosch 3 місяці тому

      Well said

    • @kev63inuk
      @kev63inuk 3 місяці тому

      Great comment Johan , as an Englishman I agree with Ireland fans being more than nice supporters. Very fair and as gracious in defeat as in many wins. Much as I’m looking forward to England in NZ , I’m as excited by yourselves and Ireland going toe to toe. Worry a little for Ireland with Catt leaving and Farrell being involved with the British lions . Surprised this hasn’t been discussed more by Irish fans . Guessing Goodman will be an excellent coach though .

  • @hankgoldenshaft
    @hankgoldenshaft 3 місяці тому +1

    I think all of these games will be tight. Maybe an upset with one of the touring sides taking out the series, hopefully not England as I’m a kiwi, probably not Ireland cuz it’s the Boks at home, maybe Wales? A drawn series by Ireland or England or both will be seen as a victory for sure.

  • @aaronfitton9076
    @aaronfitton9076 3 місяці тому +2

    I think the first game is Englands chance to win as they have at least one game under their belt as a unit and the ABs have a habit of being a bit rusty and trying to force things. England look like a good side

    • @chrisdutoit8843
      @chrisdutoit8843 3 місяці тому

      The AB have a point to prove. Watch them demolish every team they play this year. The England side is not on same level as AB.Go AB. From a Saffa

    • @oldblack15
      @oldblack15 3 місяці тому

      Sorry to say that was the allblacks of old. The new mantra is come out firing from the whistle. Play what is in front of you. Engurlund better bring their A game.

  • @Edgycoo
    @Edgycoo 3 місяці тому +1

    All blacks are going on an absolute tear. Will not lose a game this year.

    • @thegoat4124
      @thegoat4124 3 місяці тому

      They will, likely to South Africa and then Ireland again at the end of the year 🙂

  • @juanpierrebosch
    @juanpierrebosch 3 місяці тому

    Look at u20 Ireland & u20 Springboks results from yesterday. Two strong teams for the future. I'm a South African living in Ireland. The problem for Ireland is the media, the same as the UK media. Blowing up ego of players, disrespectful to other team's play format and then when things don't work out media batter their own team and emotionally breaking them. It's an emotional yho-yho with no realistic building on the team and public. Ego is always the wrong way to go, and Ireland is falling flat just before the top price. Don't get me wrong, I love my Irish brothers and sisters, infant they are awesome people, but they rely on media manipulation.

    • @samoday2992
      @samoday2992 3 місяці тому

      Come on Sa is no different . Some of the one eyed views are ridiculous . My wife is a Saffer i have spent more then enough time there the news and rugby analysts in SA are laughable . Exactly the same in Australia and Nz but funnily enough none of those countries believe they do it either .

  • @Gilescowdemdem
    @Gilescowdemdem 3 місяці тому

    Wales and Aus are on the rebuild path but currently aren't going to challenge any of the top 5 teams in the world. Honestly, with the new coach I've more excited around aus than wales. Gatland just doesnt seem to have that magic about his strategy anymore.

  • @glaslynx123
    @glaslynx123 3 місяці тому

    Pruh-nun-see-ay-shun not Pruh-noun-see-ay-shun . See what you did there 😁

  • @redhowell7856
    @redhowell7856 3 місяці тому +9

    Good segment Mate - dedicating a video to assessing and contextualising your viewer comment.
    I think you read the Bok Fan Room well. Quietly confident and most certainly trusting Rassie - he has hard earned Bok Fan trust and, whilst there's never 100% consensus on selection, he takes the trouble to give us his perspectives and thinking. The guy is transparent and welcomes Fan input. I'm going Boks 2-0 on this series.
    Thanks for the segment. Innovative - no other channel I follow has done that.

  • @waynehunt3375
    @waynehunt3375 3 місяці тому +12

    Beware the start of a new Era in all black rugby under Robertson

    • @jadenphilander8799
      @jadenphilander8799 3 місяці тому

      Robertson? Never heard of her. All i saw him win was super rugby against weak defences.

    • @matiungawharau
      @matiungawharau 2 місяці тому

      His timata has started kia mau te ihi te wehi te mana o Aotearoa Nga Pango,tūmeke...

  • @Billcali
    @Billcali 3 місяці тому +2

    I feel the referees are very similar in their approach to the game to last years internationals.
    Still too many dodgy calls going on and a lot of interference from the ref upstairs.
    The Ireland ref for the Japan Maori AB's game had a bit of a shocker, japan clearly had one of their own men obstructing ab's player (maybe even a shepard) and the yellow for a so called head contact was ridiculous.
    I'd like to see international referee's working in all area's of the globe ie some URC refs working in other competitions, like super rugby and vice versa. That was in time all the refs will be on the same page, because the top Nations are so close to each other, that one mistake could mean winning or losing.
    Not to be bias or anything, but the super rugby season in NZ flowed amazingly well with longer periods of play than what I saw in the URC.
    If you have to start prosecuting people for so called abusing the refs online, then something has to change pretty fast btw the prosecuting people is also ridiculous and very woke ;)
    Rugby is not going in the right direction.

  • @paulmulryne8405
    @paulmulryne8405 3 місяці тому +5

    I dont think England fans are deluded... outside of some sections of the press 😂 If England can win 1 test, that'll be huge. In order to do that, the scrum will have to hold its own. SA are immense, settled and at home. Ireland are a bit fragile and, with the injuries, l think SA take this series relatively easily. Wales vs Aus could be the best series. Aus are so unpredictable, but they have some really exciting players. Wales are gritty and tough.

  • @honahwikeepa2115
    @honahwikeepa2115 3 місяці тому +2

    English tight five pain barrier will be tested. Ireland aren't fazed about reputation or location. Wales and Australia will be a lucky dip. Bokkie is a formidable force at home. Only the AB regularly humbles the Bokkie at home. Ireland at full strength have the capability to beat anyone. Their depth will be challenged.

  • @ricardocarvalho1290
    @ricardocarvalho1290 3 місяці тому +2

    Even though I'm a Bok fan I would have loved to see Ireland take the last WC if not SA.
    The Irish, fantastic team and fantastic people.

  • @brendopethewoat947
    @brendopethewoat947 3 місяці тому +14

    Expect this to be a great series between SA and Ireland.
    Saffa here and I highly rate this Ireland side, their achievements and quality of play speak for themselves.
    Home ground probably makes SA slight favourites for the first game but it is anyones series.
    Do not underestimate this Irish team they are world class.

    • @Camcolito
      @Camcolito 3 місяці тому

      Thanks for the kind words but I think SA are pretty strong favorites, will be happy with two competitive games and a few good performances from some of the newer guys, particularly 9 and 10.

    • @botleybotley8628
      @botleybotley8628 3 місяці тому

      @bredopethewoat947 isn't there only one F in south Africa?so Safa here?

  • @salemmurray711
    @salemmurray711 3 місяці тому +3

    England deserve respect as a team, but as an All Blacks fan, i expect us to dominate our two test series. Quietly confident we have a very talented side with a decent coach.

  • @oldman774
    @oldman774 3 місяці тому +4

    Kwagga Smith in my view is an impact player, he was tried at number 8 starting a few years back and his impact was lessened due to trying to take on the roll of Vermeulen, he is too small for that role. We have no better impact player than Smith. He can come on with 30 minutes and his workrate and impact is off the charts

  • @vladtheinhaler6579
    @vladtheinhaler6579 3 місяці тому +4

    SA v Ire: Can't with for this one. Being an Irish fan I'd be happy with a 1-1 draw which I think is very likely and would be a good result for Ireland also. Other than that it will be 2-0 to SA.
    NZ v Eng: This should also be very interesting. Again a 1-1 draw is possible as England are very much on the up with some very talented players. However, NZ under a new coach and on home turf will have a lot to say so 2-0 to NZ will more than likely be the outcome in two closely fought games.
    Aus V Wal: Two teams in the doldrums with a lot to prove. We could see two really competitive and close games here. I think Wales will have the edge though and I will go 2-0 to them.

    • @TheLinzitoPodcast
      @TheLinzitoPodcast 3 місяці тому

      I would love a 2-0 to SA but i also fear anything other than a draw might just boost the ego's negatively

  • @WelshRaptor367
    @WelshRaptor367 3 місяці тому +22

    Wales aren't a poor team. They're young, inexperienced but show huge strength of classic welsh power. We're one of the best in the world. We just need more time to grow. We got a try against the world's best team in the world who have great experience. We almost beat experienced England and Scotland too. Bright future for wales

    • @rugbyanalyst
      @rugbyanalyst  3 місяці тому +2

      Yea, I'd say the younger generation has been thrown in a little early but there wasn't much choice. They will Def get better.

    • @nevillepieterse9983
      @nevillepieterse9983 3 місяці тому +3

      SA fan here - I am really looking forward to Wales been competitive again 👍🏽

    • @davidpearn2484
      @davidpearn2484 3 місяці тому +2

      Wales will come good make no mistake 👍.

    • @Gilescowdemdem
      @Gilescowdemdem 3 місяці тому

      What's your opinion of Australia?

    • @Jay-Leigh863
      @Jay-Leigh863 3 місяці тому

      Wales certainly deserve respect. As you correctly point out, they scored a try against arguably the best defense in world rugby. Some more experience as a unit and Wales will come good. As a South African I was impressed with the way they fronted up and also the way the never gave up.

  • @TheBullhannigan
    @TheBullhannigan 3 місяці тому +2

    As an Irishman and Leinster fan, I don't expect Ireland to beat the Boks in South Africa. That might be harder to do than beating the All Blacks in NZ, to be honest. Now that Gibson-Park and Keenan are out, it's even more daunting. We want to be tested against the best, and we will be. We can win a test but it's a pity it's not a proper three-test series. It's ironic that a poor Welsh side probably have the best chance of success on a southern hemisphere tour this year. Ireland, England and Wales are all similarly matched against their opponents this summer, and all have similar chances of success, in my opinion. Come on Ireland 💚

  • @SeanLarkan
    @SeanLarkan 3 місяці тому +4

    Great segment as always thank you (bok fan in Aus); love the way you give balanced objective commentary notwithstanding your roots

  • @Wolf-hh4rv
    @Wolf-hh4rv 3 місяці тому +1

    Man for man not the best SA team ever. But talented and the best coached SA team ever. Ireland is going to be a ferocious battle.

  • @jonwright4719
    @jonwright4719 3 місяці тому +2

    Cola Bear and Smokeless Joe to start (come on Borthers) keep us in the game and then Stuart and Rodd will have to prove they are international quality or we're pooped. Agree with no scrum no win- so we need parity in the front row. I'm saying 1-1 over the series. Come on England !

  • @abescheepers
    @abescheepers 3 місяці тому +1

    Be sure that SA does not under estimate the Irish, but we are so looking forward to them coming, because we have not had any tests (baring Wales) since the WC and are hungry for the Boks to play. Wales vs Aus. and Eng. vs AB's will be interesting at least.

  • @DanielPugsley-sv5zo
    @DanielPugsley-sv5zo 3 місяці тому +2

    If England can go toe to toe with the ABs and play good rugby doing it, losing both games narrowly, I’d say that’s acceptable and par. Win one or both games and that’s an amazing achievement, getting hammered in one or both games would be a huge disappointment.

  • @thewargodking5463
    @thewargodking5463 3 місяці тому +2

    What I learnt from Fozzie, Borthwick and Farrells early coaching days. Give them a chance. They might surprise you later down the line

  • @TurtleFPL
    @TurtleFPL 3 місяці тому +2

    Questions about Ollie Lawrence!? What!!! I'm Irish and think he's absolutely phenomenal. Could well be a Lion

    • @guyveegee
      @guyveegee 3 місяці тому

      Quite a few skills errors that need ironing out

  • @charliepope9539
    @charliepope9539 3 місяці тому +13

    All Blacks will overpower England in the pack and unleash their backs. England just don’t have the front row to hold them. It’s a shame because otherwise England are looking pretty good.

    • @EdProcter-x7d
      @EdProcter-x7d 3 місяці тому +2

      Cole and marler to start just to scrummage. Sinckler and genge got too long when they weren’t good enough.

    • @hafidkouloun6405
      @hafidkouloun6405 3 місяці тому

      This is what was said before England played Ireland in 6 Nations! 40+ points..
      The result played up to be something else.

    • @jonnybaynham1689
      @jonnybaynham1689 3 місяці тому

      Don't understand why All Blacks are so confident in their scrum. England more than held their own against the Boks in the semi final with the starting pack. It was when the bench props came on that it was lost.
      In every game Underhill has played against NZ he's been a terror. The NZ back row are very good but considering Curry and Underhill overwhelmed Read and Savea previously and Underhill is in top form, the battle of back row will be fascinating

    • @AZ26744
      @AZ26744 3 місяці тому

      NZ are having a great run of prop talent. Would love to see Pasilio Tosi earn his first cap against England, he is pacey, great step and 140kg.

    • @guyveegee
      @guyveegee 3 місяці тому

      I think that's a fair comment but the same was said at the WC Semi Final and short of the actual game defining scrum, the pack held their own against the strongest pack in the world

  • @subhuman119
    @subhuman119 2 місяці тому

    I think the All Blacks, with a new coach and gameplan is simply going to be a bit to much for the English. Englands scrum I don't feel will match up to the scrum of the All Blacks, and the pace and skill of the AB's will have a field day. However, if that doesnt click for the All Blacks, England might just surprise them, especially with the expansive game they are starting to play. But All Blacks at home, 2-0
    South Africa v Ireland. South Africa will be tough at home, but this Irish side is no joke. Keep in mind, SA just got past the AB's (with 14 on the field) in the final, and I don't think this team will change much. But in South Africa, I think they will be a little to much for Ireland in the first test, I'm expecting Ireland to bounce back in the second. 1-1
    Wales and Australia. With Joe Schmidtt at the helm for the Aussies, and the form the Australian teams showed in Super Rugby this year. I think Australia will be to strong for Wales. 2-0 to Australia.

  • @ethanphillips9918
    @ethanphillips9918 3 місяці тому +2

    Do you think any welsh players get into the lions starting 23. I’d say wainwright, reffel and Jenkins

    • @thomasdilworth7691
      @thomasdilworth7691 3 місяці тому

      Jack Morgan too if he can recover from recent injuries.

    • @kev63inuk
      @kev63inuk 3 місяці тому

      As an Englishman I’d agree .

  • @clearpupil
    @clearpupil 2 місяці тому

    Lots of exciting rugby to come. Anybody’s game in SA and NZ s well although razor has the edge. 🇿🇦

  • @janhbhugo5085
    @janhbhugo5085 3 місяці тому

    Wales vs Australia are rebuilding , we need both teams to be better and they will improve ! England need to catch NZ early , but beware when NZ click and start running ! Boks vs Ireland , I say one win each ! TMO,s and refs just hope they are fair and don’t come with an agenda ! These days one has to consider them , a shame really ! Good job with your channel fair and unbiased , we need more of that !

  • @rangers8319
    @rangers8319 3 місяці тому +2

    Best English team, change my mind…
    1.Beno O 2.Theo D 3.God knows
    4.Maro I 5. George M
    6.Chandler C-S. 7. Sam U
    8. Hoskins Sotutu (English mum)
    9. Alex M. 10.Marcus S
    12. Ben Earl. 13. Tommy F
    14. Immanuel F-B 11. Tom R
    15. George F
    16. Curtis L 17. Finn B 18. 🤷‍♂️
    19. Alex C 20. Ted Hill 21. Harry R
    22. Finn S 23. Ollie L

    • @jonnybaynham1689
      @jonnybaynham1689 3 місяці тому

      Roebuck had a great step but not sure how you're so confident he's the best left wing. Lots of changes happening in that position - either Freeman, Sleightholme, or Roebuck
      Obano was good for Bath for sure and really hope he gets some time at loosehead. Otherwise Baxter.
      Cole is definitely the best scrummaging tight head right now. Hopefully in time we see the young props come through like Opuku-Fordjour.

    • @oldblack15
      @oldblack15 3 місяці тому

      Lol. Sotutu has been given some work ons for the off season. Hope he can be an improvement end of year.

    • @aar1967
      @aar1967 3 місяці тому

      @@rangers8319 You may well get Sotutu. Kiwis waiting to see if he stays or goes.

  • @jimbo4890
    @jimbo4890 3 місяці тому +1

    Fair play, love the honesty you bring, unsure what to expect from NZ in terms of selections but have suspicions etc unwilling to comment upfront as a result etc, rather than guessing an simply making up nonsense, fine job indeed, hope the channel continues to grow, love the enthusiasm and different angles you approach England on, based on knowledge.

  • @rabbitss11
    @rabbitss11 3 місяці тому +6

    Delicate subject, but as an outsider it looks like South African rugby has hugely benefitted from the increasing number of black players; back in the 80's there was only Chester Williams and that was about it.

    • @Tar-ZA-n
      @Tar-ZA-n 3 місяці тому +4

      Chester was a 90s Bok. Tobias was 80s.
      Things are very different these days. The baby boks and SA schools teams are good examples of the progress made in growing the game here. 😁

    • @Thabang_G_Matlala
      @Thabang_G_Matlala 3 місяці тому +8

      It's not a touchy subject, though. The springboks are definitely benefitting from a greater talent pool, all types of different people are now attracted to the sport & its genuinely satisfying to see.
      Thanks, from a Saffa 🇿🇦 who loves rugby 🏉

  • @ianeveratt7273
    @ianeveratt7273 3 місяці тому +1

    Does trying Earl at Centre, open the way for a 6-2 split on the bench?

  • @thomasdilworth7691
    @thomasdilworth7691 3 місяці тому

    Great day of rugby! 5 matches!!

  • @ianjacobs2998
    @ianjacobs2998 3 місяці тому +1

    Great podcast. 🇿🇦

  • @LegendaryWizball
    @LegendaryWizball 3 місяці тому +1

    Yes, yes and yes. Southern Hemisphere 6 - 0.

  • @andreemurray7039
    @andreemurray7039 3 місяці тому +1

    I still think All Blacks England will be a draw as both teams are still building teams

    • @LegendaryWizball
      @LegendaryWizball 3 місяці тому +2

      ABs not building. One newish lock. Backup five eighth. Rest is settled.

  • @EnglishVeteran
    @EnglishVeteran 3 місяці тому +4

    Can we have our National Anthem back? Not that British dirge!!! 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🌹🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🌹🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🌹🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

  • @Dontbelieve.thehype
    @Dontbelieve.thehype 3 місяці тому

    If SA can go 100% win this season then they will be the greatest team ever . Taking inconsideration the World Cup run and draw

  • @jackdarby8904
    @jackdarby8904 3 місяці тому

    As a kiwi agree with the comments about the series vs England. I'm really interested to see who starts at 9. I'd like to see Cortez Ratima get some good game time probably from the bench behind TJ.

  • @davidvaughan4480
    @davidvaughan4480 3 місяці тому

    Keenan and Gibson Park are huge misses but long term its maybe not a bad thing.All the tours will be fascinating the results will tell the teams where they are more so perhaps Eng ,Wales and Ireland as they are playing away.

  • @wearsideexile6616
    @wearsideexile6616 3 місяці тому

    Of course Ollie Lawrence is international class. He’s just not a 12.

  • @nathannweyer4741
    @nathannweyer4741 3 місяці тому

    You pronounced Sasha's name perfect 🎉

  • @Billcali
    @Billcali 3 місяці тому +3

    SA will be too strong for Ireland
    The AB's will field their most experienced team for England and a few nerves will see the AB's win by not much.
    The wallabies will see off Wales
    Great channel and very easy to watch with no waffling on 👌

  • @dakalodk
    @dakalodk 3 місяці тому

    thank you

  • @Moamanly
    @Moamanly 3 місяці тому

    One thing is certain; the ABs will be rusty and not in sync, especially at Dunedin..

    • @thomasdilworth7691
      @thomasdilworth7691 3 місяці тому

      I dunno, mate, they've just finished Super Rugby. I think the ABs will hit the ground running!

  • @robertwood6297
    @robertwood6297 3 місяці тому +2

    I fancy England and Wales to win. Where's my bookmaker?

    • @craigmorgan4676
      @craigmorgan4676 3 місяці тому

      Absolutely deluded brother, wheres ure head @?🫣🫣🫣😬🤔👀👎👎👎

  • @wernervdmerwe7302
    @wernervdmerwe7302 3 місяці тому +1

    No 1986 Boks was the best

  • @Skybar23
    @Skybar23 3 місяці тому

    SA struggled to beat a 14 man NZ in the RWC final and lost to Ireland

  • @dazza9859
    @dazza9859 3 місяці тому

    Ireland have no chance.Poor side on the downside.

  • @LeighRichards27
    @LeighRichards27 3 місяці тому

    Think the 2007 south African side was more talented than the side at present. In last few years they batter teams into submission with their sheer size and raw power but the side of Bryan habana and Percy Montgomery in 2007 was a better all round team - and certainly played with more flair. Lets be honest SA may be a great side right now but they are boring as hell to watch (btw think the 1951 side that blew everyone away on their tour of Europe was the most talented boks side ever - they also white washed new zealand a couple of years before). Yeah the wallabies and Wales aren't great at the moment, tho you do get the sense there mite be some green shoots of recovery for Wales. On the other hand Australian rugby seems to be in a trough not seen since mid 70s when they were losing to likes of tonga.

    • @Tomk79rhby
      @Tomk79rhby 3 місяці тому

      @LeighRichards27 you're entitled to that opinion. But many people will disagree with you on that. SA vs France and SA vs Ireland in the world cup were fire. Certainly not boring.

  • @neilmontgomery3470
    @neilmontgomery3470 3 місяці тому +3

    Irish fans I know aren't really looking forward to the tests against South Africa. Playing South Africa so soon after the World Cup with one of the tests at altitude tips the scales heavily in South Africa's favour and the top 4 teams would be favoured to win their home games anyway. Also we play South African teams all the time in the league so what are we really learning from it ? Its really only a commercial exercise and means nothing except for bragging rights. I think most fans would have preferred a break for our best best players and an extended pre season for the provinces. The year after the World Cup should be more about bring younger players on and building depth.

    • @Both-Barracuda
      @Both-Barracuda 3 місяці тому +4

      If that is the mindset of Ireland then you’re fucked. Are you a fan of Ireland ? Already coming up with excuses. You’re one of the best teams in the world. You beat South Africa the last time you played them.
      If you’re complaining that much be thankful it’s a June series.
      We ( The All Blacks) play the Springboks twice in the rugby championship. Part of an actual competition not a friendly series. And both tests are away from home.
      You think the ABs and us fans are making excuses?
      Absolutely not. We are excited to play an away Bok series. Maybe this time it might be 15 on 15 as well 😊

    • @Camcolito
      @Camcolito 3 місяці тому

      @@Both-Barracuda Calling them friendlies is just disingenuous, a rugby tour is not a friendly it's a test match series. I'd say it's more important than the rugby championship. As an Irish fan I'm looking forward to the games, agree with OP that don't like our chances much though, not excuses making just prediction. Hopefully will be wrong.

  • @Robbybabes1988
    @Robbybabes1988 3 місяці тому

    England fans are always deluded haha