Jing Yuan vs Svarog feat. Sunday x Bronya 0-Cycle Strategy | No Limited Eidolons | MOC v2.6

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  • @LisaraScarlet
    @LisaraScarlet  2 дні тому +5

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  • @A-SUS
    @A-SUS День тому +176

    Bronya : "Sunday, go!"
    Sunday : "wha-WHAT?! King, you go!"

    • @zengao
      @zengao День тому

      Lol this is gold

    • @Idk_My_Name
      @Idk_My_Name День тому +2

      Robin:"You go! You go! You go as well. Im just gonna stay back and sing"

  • @yuujin8194
    @yuujin8194 День тому +125

    "There will be some weird decisions here to nerf Jing Yuan's damage for an epic finish" All of the general's supporters wiped tears from their eyes.

    • @Cyno_gaming
      @Cyno_gaming День тому +9

      Lmaooo. Lisara really cooked us with that one

    • @LisaraScarlet
      @LisaraScarlet  День тому +13

      Until the boss is Banacademic Staff ... I will need to squeeze everything from OUR general for that one.

    • @sev559
      @sev559 День тому +3

      @@LisaraScarletpause

  • @katcat494
    @katcat494 2 дні тому +96

    Bronya will never be bad, 100% action adv in a turn based game is already enough to age like wine

    • @bum-eye.
      @bum-eye. День тому

      just her negative sp just make her kinda annoying, either u use team that positive sp, or use sunday lc (if that work), or just use sparkle or sunday instead
      but ur argument about 100% adv is totally true

    • @tacodyr
      @tacodyr День тому +5

      Fine wine even :3 I honestly love how synergistic these action advance characters are with each other.

  • @sketch2623
    @sketch2623 2 дні тому +42

    Cant wait for the sunday guide. Absolutely love the character

  • @RaikamiX
    @RaikamiX 2 дні тому +225

    Sparkle found dead in the ditch ☠️

    • @nm9489
      @nm9489 День тому +1

      She is better than both of them in other stenarios

    • @zephyrree
      @zephyrree День тому +45

      Well atleast she's having fun in Hi3... (I think)

    • @dyouch
      @dyouch День тому

      ​@@nm9489what scenario

    • @kiieel
      @kiieel День тому

      ​@@nm9489 what scenario lmao

    • @nm9489
      @nm9489 День тому

      @kiieel dan il

  • @StrumentoGearon
    @StrumentoGearon День тому +32

    Jing Yuan: They made me work on Sunday.

  • @TheSast
    @TheSast 2 дні тому +104

    So glad Bronya got a new buff 🔥

    • @Sakamoto_1535E3
      @Sakamoto_1535E3 2 дні тому

      You mean application? That's not a buff, my friend.

    • @the_delusional_dreamer
      @the_delusional_dreamer День тому +8

      @@Sakamoto_1535E3it’s sarcasm

    • @ladyhdwastaken
      @ladyhdwastaken День тому +15

      @@Sakamoto_1535E3 I mean it's technically a buff in her viability because now she has additional uses. She has 100% action advance on her skill and can do this with just 1 skill point on ANY ally. Sunday is held back by not being able to action advance a harmony unit but Bronya comes in extremely clutch here because she can AA him and he can AA the carry and they synergize quite well especially with how strong Sunday's buffs are for summoners

    • @Sakamoto_1535E3
      @Sakamoto_1535E3 День тому

      @@the_delusional_dreamer it's definitely not and you just made it worse. You make me revolt even more. Go back to school, kid.

    • @Vincent-ev4qe
      @Vincent-ev4qe День тому

      ​@@Sakamoto_1535E3Read the room

  • @LisaraScarlet
    @LisaraScarlet  2 дні тому +117

    I will try to get the Jing Yuan 0-cycle clear on the 2nd half but no promises. Lightning Lord's bounce RNG is just so annoying.

    • @RaikamiX
      @RaikamiX 2 дні тому +18

      Fellow jing yuan mains seeing this: first time?

    • @tuananhdang7385
      @tuananhdang7385 2 дні тому +1

      just get E1

    • @dangtam1708
      @dangtam1708 2 дні тому +9

      Yellovv have finished the Jing Yuan 0 cycles 2nd half showcase. But it's in CE sever.

    • @notraname
      @notraname 2 дні тому

      Can you do this run with e2 bronya? Think the speed buff will mess stuff up?

    • @haatsunemiku
      @haatsunemiku День тому

      @@notranameit should work, i think

  • @KaiserTheDarkWolf
    @KaiserTheDarkWolf День тому +42

    And this is the reason why Sunday cant push Harmony units because looping with freaking robin is a real thing.

    • @StormySensei
      @StormySensei День тому +4

      Bronya Sunday and Sparkle could probably infinitely advance everyone with 0AV

    • @ladyhdwastaken
      @ladyhdwastaken День тому +6

      Bronya can do this for Robin and they don't loop though they make excellent teammates. Though you can just do the Oak siblings and Bronya for full shenanigans.

    • @jaguh9069
      @jaguh9069 День тому +2

      This is why Bronya will never be totally phase out of meta. Hoyo wouldn't make another harmony that can 100% AA another harmony 😂

    • @emperorjgaming2266
      @emperorjgaming2266 День тому

      Yeah, forget robin it's a perpetual turn machine with both advancing each other to spam DDD until it's 0av

    • @Amraathegamer
      @Amraathegamer 15 годин тому

      Its also a way to generate infinite sp with sundays s1 and bronyas e1s1

  • @epicazeroth
    @epicazeroth День тому +51

    You're the only CC I've seen mention that Sunday should use his ult on his turn, everyone else just does it whenever. I guess if you can get the extra energy it helps to get extra SP, but sometimes it's just a waste of uptime.

    • @UnusualDeathCause
      @UnusualDeathCause День тому

      Whats so special about it? Doesnt it tick down on his turn just like RuanMei & HMC?

    • @kamitik7283
      @kamitik7283 День тому +7

      @@UnusualDeathCauseyes, like hmc ult

    • @LisaraScarlet
      @LisaraScarlet  День тому +19

      @@UnusualDeathCause When Sunday's ULT stacks run out and you do another skill into ULT, that skill cast won't recover SP. So now you can see why it is important to always use his ULT before his skill. It will maintain the 3-turn ULT rotation but will make the SP recovery have 100% uptime.

    • @Hiarin
      @Hiarin День тому

      that's prob. cz some other CC use him with the usual Eagle DDD, thus ult-ing outside his turn, if you run Sacerdos with his LC then you definitely want to ult on his turn.

  • @komgoo4974
    @komgoo4974 2 дні тому +20

    My favourite new team has become Jingliu, Sunday, Bronya and Luocha. With Atk boots Jingliu and an E2 Bronya my Jingliu can get syzygy quickly and can stack both of Bronya's and Sunday's buffs in one turn with both of their lightcones and ultimates activated to do a quintillion damage totally unpowercrept damage. Sp isn't an issue as well.

    • @Ram-yx2fo
      @Ram-yx2fo День тому

      Same with me except I have no luocha so I use lynx e2 instead

  • @mllamo_alex
    @mllamo_alex 2 дні тому +24

    Sunday is a gift from heaven

  • @detXCI
    @detXCI День тому +5

    Hoyo : "Sunday would release in wednesday"
    Sunday : "...i can't even make it to my own day.."

  • @2Rice
    @2Rice День тому +2

    ooh thanks for the Sunday usage tips. I'll have to remember to reserve ult for his turn. Especially since i have the LC, i shouldn't have to worry about getting energy from hits.

  • @44myst
    @44myst День тому

    So happy you got this voice back (I'm aware it was back for a while, just appreciating it again)

  • @leimatzunkyo5586
    @leimatzunkyo5586 День тому +4

    If Sunday could pull up Bronya...With both having Sunday's LC, and DDD...Sunday and Bronya would infinitely pull each other up to infinite reseting everything back to 0 endlessly, cheesing the whole game. And sparkle can be a SP generator for the first wave.

  • @BatagorKeju27
    @BatagorKeju27 День тому

    Finallyy... the Erudition Queen video showing up... answering all my questions related to Sunday in Jingyuan team

  • @mongrelshadow14
    @mongrelshadow14 День тому

    Love waking up to a Lisara video~

  • @jonesff5297
    @jonesff5297 День тому

    awesome showcase! as always

  • @torujime
    @torujime День тому

    That Sunday ult tip was so useful, I didn't know you could use it like that to have 100% uptime on the SP recovery. thanks!

  • @UlmaAum
    @UlmaAum День тому +1

    Wow Lisara's cooking skills never stops to amaze me 🥵

  • @jude2447
    @jude2447 День тому +2

    I actually do something very similar a minus 1 speed sunday with a fast sparkle honestly it's pretty comfy got 3 cycles on the first half! I am by no means a min maxxer but the fact that I got to use sparkle makes me very happy!

  • @itslemone
    @itslemone День тому +1

    we are overworking the general with this one 🔥🔥 the amount of turns is crazy

  • @kamiiv9864
    @kamiiv9864 День тому

    Now that we finally have a jing yuan show case, lisara has truly become the erudition main they were destined to be

  • @vergo1785
    @vergo1785 День тому

    Great run as always. Can i ask for your opinion? Should i get Sunday's LC? Or is my S1 bronya LC already good enough? Is his LC that crazy good? I'm saving for The Herta and Jade's LC atm.

  • @GVS2001
    @GVS2001 День тому

    Awesome as always!

  • @tera8683
    @tera8683 День тому +1

    That was beautiful

  • @jamesvalkyrie7469
    @jamesvalkyrie7469 День тому +1

    It has begun. The ultra advance forward teams are here! 😂

  • @Sakamoto_1535E3
    @Sakamoto_1535E3 2 дні тому +5

    I kinda wanna try this with Lingsha xD
    ... since the team lacks sustain, how about a dps that can literally sustain the WHOLE TEAM lol

    • @LisaraScarlet
      @LisaraScarlet  2 дні тому +2

      Definitely gonna be strong on a good matchup.

  • @potato_pollo
    @potato_pollo День тому

    Ive been meaning to ask. How detrimental does not having exactly minus 1 speed get? Say I have a 160 spd sunday, and my bronya is 158 or 157. How big of a difference does it do?

    • @LisaraScarlet
      @LisaraScarlet  День тому

      Not much difference but you'd want above 158 with decimals anyways because Svarog has 158 speed.

  • @raincandy3
    @raincandy3 19 годин тому

    I'd love to see how Lingsha, jade, sunday, bronya/robin would work

  • @bunny7.10
    @bunny7.10 День тому +1

    How does bronya LC work on Sunday does it gives buffs to summons too ? Cuz Sunday LC doesn't mantion about buffing summons

    • @LisaraScarlet
      @LisaraScarlet  День тому

      Nope.

    • @bunny7.10
      @bunny7.10 День тому

      @LisaraScarlet so his LC doesn't buff summons and i can skip it for bronya LC???

    • @LisaraScarlet
      @LisaraScarlet  День тому +2

      @@bunny7.10 I was answering your question regarding Bronya LC on him. Considering summons takes into account the stats of their summoner, Sunday's LC buffs the summon.

  • @bluechicken8626
    @bluechicken8626 День тому +1

    OURGENERAL KINGYUAN

  • @fathanrakha9295
    @fathanrakha9295 День тому

    Till this day i'm still regretting not pulling Jade LC for my Jing Yuan. Really missing out on some of the techs that i could do with it.
    Will be waiting for the Sunday guide! Still abit confused with the speed tuning for the normal Sunday x Robin comp lol

  • @zenonwar9087
    @zenonwar9087 День тому

    May I ask why you E on Sunday and not on the carry? Cuz i imagine Bronya push the carry then Sunday push the carry again should be better no? Sorry in advance, I'm still oblivious to HSR E-Sport tactics.

    • @waiyisit
      @waiyisit День тому +1

      Carry still gets 2 turns per rotation either way. But with Bronya e sunday, you get an extra Sunday action, which is relevant if you have his sig and so he becomes sp positive.

    • @yuuta.1013
      @yuuta.1013 День тому +1

      ​​@@waiyisitAlso LL moves with him again, twice. With bronya, u cant

  • @HajimeRen01
    @HajimeRen01 2 дні тому +1

    which other DPSes do you think can also pull this off? and 0 cycle MoC 12

    • @LisaraScarlet
      @LisaraScarlet  День тому +1

      There isn't much summon type characters so the only remaining ones who can try this is Topaz and Lingsha.

  • @krishnapratomo
    @krishnapratomo День тому +1

    So I've got 2 sunday LCs, any cool strat I can do with it? I also got my S8 DDD lol

    • @LisaraScarlet
      @LisaraScarlet  День тому +1

      Sunday Tingyun I think? Haven't tried yet tho.

    • @yuuta.1013
      @yuuta.1013 День тому +1

      Can u even stack it tho? With difference harmony ofc

  • @huyanhaye
    @huyanhaye День тому +1

    1:24 sunday couldn’t reach out to his sister 💀

  • @majaschnee6656
    @majaschnee6656 2 дні тому +1

    would it work if I run a no speed jy with a 165 spd bronya advancing him first forward and then a 161 spd sunday doing the same immdediatly after - and then repeat. My bronya is e6 which is why I dont wanna waste her buffs on sunday.

    • @georgezhang1573
      @georgezhang1573 День тому +1

      You still wouldn’t have bronya’s buff on jing yuan, since her buff would expire after the Sunday pull turn and not affect lightning lord. So I believe this setup getting 2 lightning lords and also more energy for jing yuan is still better. You get more damage on Robin though.

    • @ladyhdwastaken
      @ladyhdwastaken День тому

      @@georgezhang1573 Yep her E6 is really busted with Robin 😆(i would know this as an e6 bronya haver). So she does still work extremely well with other harmony units (or supports in general) as long as they are dealing additional damage based on their own stats.

    • @majaschnee6656
      @majaschnee6656 22 години тому

      @@georgezhang1573 oh you are absolutely right about that, how did my dumbass didnt think this far ;-;. could you tell me how it affects robin though (I have no clue)

    • @georgezhang1573
      @georgezhang1573 22 години тому

      @@majaschnee6656 for the early robin setup you have robin turn, bronya pull, robin turn, robin ult. Since the robin ult happens after the turn with bronya buff, she doesn’t keep the buff unless you have bronya e6. Damage buffs affect robin’s damage, so she will be doing a lot more damage, especially if she’s on attack orb.

  • @Cyno_gaming
    @Cyno_gaming День тому

    A bich is shook. Truly high quality content here

  • @asukaujing
    @asukaujing День тому +1

    outside Kingyaun teams, is sunday eligible for ddd

    • @LisaraScarlet
      @LisaraScarlet  День тому

      Really bad because he can't do a 3-turn ULT rotation.

  • @vickdinvick5485
    @vickdinvick5485 2 дні тому +6

    OUR GENERAL, T0 dps !!! lol

    • @Aha-is-elation
      @Aha-is-elation 2 дні тому +12

      He will get powercrept so hard when agleaa comes out 😂😂😅

    • @daichi1069
      @daichi1069 2 дні тому +3

      @@Aha-is-elation shes powercreeping even your current faves regardless and its not even close

    • @undefind3426
      @undefind3426 2 дні тому +7

      @@Aha-is-elationshe’s relatively unimpressive atm

    • @deltaspecies1697
      @deltaspecies1697 2 дні тому +1

      ​@@daichi1069Feixiao, no. Everyone else ? Yea, they are cooked. Altho, BH has scenarios where he can be better.

    • @electrickzy
      @electrickzy 2 дні тому

      @@undefind3426she's the only dps that's capable of 0 cycling svarag without the help of robin + high cost. what are you on about ?

  • @ecpgieicg
    @ecpgieicg 2 дні тому

    Hi Lisara, will you do a standard banner eidolon guide? I still have the 130(?) pull reward on standard banner and there is now the free give away. I don't know which ones to get >

    • @guoba944
      @guoba944 2 дні тому

      Check brax or guoba certified

    • @awesomeperson5150
      @awesomeperson5150 2 дні тому +1

      My recommendation: if you know you won’t immediately benefit from it (like if having the chara/eidolon won’t help you gain more stars in end game content), hold off for now, especially if you’re pulling Fugue, Firefly, Aglaea, or The Herta. Who knows, maybe you’ll pull a standard character that’ll change what your choice is

    • @komgoo4974
      @komgoo4974 2 дні тому +1

      If you don't have Bronya or Himeko then get the one you are missing. If it's Eidolons it is either Himeko E1 or Bronya Eidolon. As it seems with every single Harmony character getting released Bronya is not going to be discarded ever.

    • @LisaraScarlet
      @LisaraScarlet  День тому

      If you already have Himeko, invest into getting Bronya eidolons. Getting closer to E6 Bronya is crucial.

  • @AdePumaAde
    @AdePumaAde День тому

    clap clap

  • @Slurpdako
    @Slurpdako День тому

    How can you make this work with e2 bronya? Do you just not build speed on your dps at all?

    • @ladyhdwastaken
      @ladyhdwastaken День тому

      Well since she's pushing Sunday forward and Sunday is tuned to go faster than her it would be a non-issue since at worst you are speed boosting a hyperspeed Sunday :)

    • @LisaraScarlet
      @LisaraScarlet  День тому +1

      Don't think there would be any issue.

  • @OPSwimmyJimmy
    @OPSwimmyJimmy 18 годин тому

    has anyone done the speed calc for eagle on bronya and sunday, with s4 ddd?

  • @iamvermouth
    @iamvermouth День тому

    can you try main dps topaz with sunday? i think topaz will slay

    • @LisaraScarlet
      @LisaraScarlet  День тому

      I really wish I could try but there's no good stage for Topaz at the moment.

  • @TwoSe7en-
    @TwoSe7en- 2 дні тому

    I also have the same JY stats but I don't think I can get my Sunday upto that 160 spd breakpoint.

  • @asrar_b
    @asrar_b 2 дні тому

    while i might not be able to do zero cycle maybe finally bronya can be used in my account
    also she E1S3 today during Sunday pulls maybe the game want me to play her

  • @imperial_7776
    @imperial_7776 День тому

    Ever tried this on pure fiction? 💀 i cant wait to see if this actually works in there aswell

  • @aliounethiaw1443
    @aliounethiaw1443 2 дні тому

    5:28 EPIC

  • @rimurutempest9936
    @rimurutempest9936 День тому

    Can sunday get 3 turn ult with bronya lc at s1

  • @angbao3038
    @angbao3038 День тому

    aint no way we got jingyuan 0cc moc 12 before gta6

  • @kritokun3885
    @kritokun3885 День тому

    In ur opinion sunday E1 or S1

  • @airishu1
    @airishu1 День тому

    I heard you're not a fan of spd boots on carries, ig thats true, even when Sunday makes easier to build for that, you still found a way of not using it lol

  • @CrazyWaffle2010
    @CrazyWaffle2010 23 години тому

    does this work without robin?

    • @LisaraScarlet
      @LisaraScarlet  23 години тому

      Works but significantly weaker w/o Robin.

    • @CrazyWaffle2010
      @CrazyWaffle2010 23 години тому

      @ oh alright thanks

    • @CrazyWaffle2010
      @CrazyWaffle2010 23 години тому

      Am just starting out so I’m still a newbie

    • @rust5427
      @rust5427 16 годин тому

      I tried with Ruan mei, it took 2 cycles but it was fun, my Bronya isn’t built at all

  • @Rompokus36
    @Rompokus36 День тому

    What is the soundtrack in this video?

    • @rumanatarafder616
      @rumanatarafder616 День тому +1

      Swordward and Jing Yuan trailer music- Heaven and Earth as a Chessboard.

  • @monothecamel
    @monothecamel 2 дні тому +1

    Sadly lost sunday to welt 😔

  • @matheuscfs97
    @matheuscfs97 День тому

    Unfortunately I lost his LC for Himeko’s, so I will never be able to do this strat and many others 👍🏻

  • @Birdizzle98
    @Birdizzle98 2 дні тому

    Would this be possible without Robin’s Sig?

    • @LisaraScarlet
      @LisaraScarlet  День тому +1

      Without Robin signature and using Bronya's signature, I keep ending the fight with 4~7% HP on Svarog.

  • @DrRen-xe8hx
    @DrRen-xe8hx 16 годин тому

    idk why but with 3 harmony it looks underwhelming..
    at least for me

  • @chokeolatte
    @chokeolatte 2 дні тому

    Is this viable even if the Bronya is E2? I'm holding off on claiming the Bronya from the selector since my Bronya is E1 and I'm scared of killing off any future chance of using her with Sunday, because I think the tech might prove super valuable when we get into 3.x.

    • @LisaraScarlet
      @LisaraScarlet  2 дні тому +4

      Don't think it will affect the rotation.

    • @chokeolatte
      @chokeolatte 2 дні тому

      @LisaraScarlet Ok thank you!

    • @ladyhdwastaken
      @ladyhdwastaken День тому +1

      It shouldn't, since she would at worst just buff Sunday's speed and she can always push him back up since he'll be going before her anyway. The only thing to take into consideration would be her talent since the 100% AA can jank up the speed tuning unless it's what Lisara showed. Bronya's E2 is extremely strong, and her eidolons scale really freaking well (Her E4 is unironically more useful now)

  • @vergil7417
    @vergil7417 День тому

    King Juan and 3 buffer

  • @Arthuriapendragon_
    @Arthuriapendragon_ День тому +1

    Is it better to take the Sunday lightcone or the jingyuan?

  • @razexxx5507
    @razexxx5507 День тому

    Man I wonder how will the three supports do if svarog decided to abduct jingyuan

    • @LisaraScarlet
      @LisaraScarlet  День тому +1

      There's a lot of trick to prevent it but if you're just asking hypothetically, well, obviously the supports won't be able to do anything about it xd

    • @ch1dd
      @ch1dd 17 годин тому

      Bronya and Sunday can just break the hand

  • @Rinovity
    @Rinovity День тому

    What bug?

    • @LisaraScarlet
      @LisaraScarlet  День тому +1

      Howling Casket on the 2nd wave has 0/0 stacks.

  • @holywitch13
    @holywitch13 2 дні тому +4

    I pulled for Sunday, got him on 70-ish pull, won 50/50, threw in leftover 10 pulls and got e1. Saving for Fugue rn, wish me luck

    • @cannibalman8175
      @cannibalman8175 2 дні тому +1

      I don't think you need that luck bro. Actually, gimme your Sunday luck cuz I need his e1 for my future Aglaea

    • @holywitch13
      @holywitch13 2 дні тому +1

      @cannibalman8175 no

    • @cannibalman8175
      @cannibalman8175 2 дні тому +1

      @@holywitch13 I wasn't asking. Hand it over. Now.

    • @holywitch13
      @holywitch13 2 дні тому

      @@cannibalman8175 no

    • @cannibalman8175
      @cannibalman8175 2 дні тому +4

      @@holywitch13 Well, I tried being nice about it. *steals your luck*

  • @ASmashedPumpkin7
    @ASmashedPumpkin7 2 дні тому +1

    Won my 50/50 (my 5th 50/50 win in a row lmao), got the light cone early, debating E1. If only I could finally get that last Eidolon for Welt too my imaginary men team could truly be peak.

  • @yousaf3378
    @yousaf3378 2 дні тому

    How’s the speed tuning with an e2 bronya?

  • @NakaraeMikiu
    @NakaraeMikiu 2 дні тому

    Midyuan is back, i like speed tuning of bronya and sundezz. Perfection!

  • @icaro4285
    @icaro4285 День тому

    Jade LC, bruh

  • @Badieon
    @Badieon 2 дні тому

    ZERO CYCLING WITH JING YUAN FINALLY IS POSSIBLE!!!!