Nothing and I mean nothing beats a RidgeRunner for a summer hammock!!! I own and have tried them all: XLC, Haven, 5 different gathered end hammocks and none come close. I do choose a Superior Gear gathered end (-30 rated) for deep winter cold hangs as gathered ends just hold heat a little better. I too have a Thunderfly tarp that works great, also a Superfly - but switch to a 12’ Dyneema HG trap last year to save some weight. As far as UQ goes, the best I have found is the Lynx by WB. It fits perfectly!!!! Spendy but worth it. I have a 0 degree which gets me through all of fall before I am forced into by gathered end for winter. Great video, really enjoyed it!!!
Nice video, thanks for sharing. The only times I've found myself reaching out for the Ridgerunner as opposed to my Chameleon, is when I'm already packed up for an upcoming trip, and for some reason am doing an overnighter somewhere else, and don't want to unpack the Chameleon. So it's convenient to have a second hammock. The RR is comfortable enough but I find it is too flat, so much so that I added a structural ridgeline on the outside to give it a little sag. The other thing is that the only comfortable position I find is sleeping on my back with my legs straight like a corpse. If I bend a knee it leans against the edge of the hammock at a point where there's a lot of tension, and it's not very comfortable at all. The saddlebags are also not my favorite. I like to keep stuff on my ridgeline where I can see them easily, and the RR doesn't allow that. I've looked into the Banyan that has a nice shelf above, with a ridgeline organizer and other storage options. But since I've not been impressed with the comfort of the RR, I can't justify investing in another bridge hammock.
I have the newer-style RR in double layer. I took it down to -5 degrees F with a 25-degree UQ and 6.2 R value pad. I also have the Dutchware Gear Banyan (single layer) and only prefer the RR because the dual ridgelines just get in the way in the Banyan. FWIW, the spreader bars that come with the Banyan are aluminum, and they weigh less than the Ruta Locura carb on fiber bars. That's a head scratcher! I'm happy with both hammocks and will use them both for different applications. I'd also recommend the Fugal Innovations buttons for the ends of your spreader bars on the new RR - they work like a charm and were easy to install.
2:20 This is the only video or information I have seen anywhere that shows someone inserting a sleeping pad into the Ridgerunner. I am considering getting a hammock and that option appeals to me because I have a quilt and sleeping pad already. Have you ever actually slept with that setup? Was it terrible? If it's raining and you have to feed your sleeping pad into that pocket, is it going to make everything wet and messy?
I haven’t slept in it that way. It was pretty comfortable. Yeah it might get wet in the rain outside of tarp if you aren’t quick. Side note, if you try to layer a pad with an underquilt the underquilt will not be effective.
Thanks for the review. Can you fit an insulated air pad inside the new single layer hammock ? And does it affect the side to side balance- as in- is your center of gravity slightly higher? Thanks. John
Fun video! Thanks for sharing. love my RR but sometimes I think I’d like to try a gathered end hammock, however I can never bring myself to do it. The RR never disappoints. Maybe I’ll just upgrade my tarp!
Okay, so I've been watching a lot of hammock videos recently, especially bridge hammocks vs gathered ends. Dutchware Canyon and Ridge runner pop up 1 and 2 all the time. Who likes which more and why? And how does it compare to say the Treble 2.0 hammock system? Not looking for lightweight backpacking, but car camping and glamping in remote 4x4 locations. Thanks!
The Treble 2.0 doesn't seem to be very popular for camping. I don't come across videos of real campers or backpackers using it, just promo videos, and a few old overnight reviewers. I think the downside is that it requires a lot of real estate and 3 evenly-spaced trees or anchor points. With a regular hammock sometimes it's a challenge to find the perfect pair of trees, imagine when you need three. Personally if I wanted a hammock that reclines I'd give the Amok Draumr a try first. The Treble 2.0 along with the Tentsile Tent seem like great toys for kids to play with. If you have a mountain cabin, a camper van, or somewhere to spend your summers you could rig this up for the duration of your stay and let your kids and pets use it.
Great videos. I bought a ridge runner hammock and a paria tarp for a motorcycle trip in Costa Rica. I live and tour BC Canada and northern USA and know I need at least a pad for insulation, in Costa Rica it’s mosquitos. Do you think a dbl layer ridge runner will protect me from mosquitos, or bring a pad? It’s a small bike I’m renting so pack space is my problem?
@@MidwestBackpacker I bought the Ridgerunner and I am really excited about it, Haven't had it in the woods yet but probably had 10 hours or so at home in it, watching videos reading and napping. Really comfortable, especially for a side-sleeper. As for being tippy you are correct. It took me a total of maybe 2 minutes to get used to it.
@@MidwestBackpacker No, single. I have a DYI 40 degree underquilt that fits perfectly. I'm a 72 year old backpacker that needs to keep the weight down. But I subscribe to your theory of sleep being so important and I will sacrifice a weight penalty for pleasant dreams.
Great comparison, thanks for uploading. I am looking at getting into hammock camping and would appreciate some comments on the Draumr as compared to the Ridgerunner: Which is easier to set up? Which is more stable (the Draumr tips head-to-toe so am wondering how this feels when turning in the hammock, I tend to sleep on my side)? Can you sit in the Ridgerunner (this seems to be a big selling point for the Draumr)? Can the Ridgerunner be set up with trekking poles in an emergency when no suitable trees are available (there is a video of someone on UA-cam doing this with the Draumr, although it does not seem to be encouraged by Amok as it may invalidate the warranty ua-cam.com/video/qCNRCN-g9GY/v-deo.html)? Thanks, Felix
I never never used the Draumar. Sorry. I have never seen a hammock you can set up with hiking poles replacing trees. Yes, you can sit in the Ridgerunner with your feet on the ground. Thanks for watching.
@@MidwestBackpacker Thanks for the response. I meant in case of absolute necessity, the trekking poles could be used to hold up the bug net so that at least this functionality was maintained. Not sure if you have seen the Haven Tent, but that design seems to lend itself for this unfavorable eventuality. Keep up the fantastic work and looking forward to the continuation of this hammock series.
Hi there. I don’t have a RR, but do have an Amok XL and can speak to it. It definitely swings fore and aft, but eventually settles down. If you are moving around to much compared to a gathered end hammock it’s going to swing a bit more. Albeit in a different direction. My biggest issue with my Amok is I’m a sides sleeper and when switching sides the weight of my legs somehow pushes the pad or bends it downwards and it flips up again to flat. Horribly annoying and I have tried two different pads(one shorter than the other, but otherwise same design) to no avail. Hence why I’m interested in Ridgerunner also.
@@MidwestBackpacker I have an Amock Draumr. They are a bit goofy getting in and out and they tend to swing a little but once you get used to it (and keeping yourself in the center) it is the most comfortable hammock I've been in and the most comfortable sleep you will get in the woods. Chair mode is awesome and if you lean the chair mode back a little (like a n easy chair) you cannot stay awake in it. Also chair mode allows you to drink a beer and play guitar.
That intro was hilarious!!!! 🤣 For a heavier guy like me i haven't found anything better than the XLC or better than a Warbonnet in general for that matter. Great review! 👍👍
Nothing and I mean nothing beats a RidgeRunner for a summer hammock!!! I own and have tried them all: XLC, Haven, 5 different gathered end hammocks and none come close. I do choose a Superior Gear gathered end (-30 rated) for deep winter cold hangs as gathered ends just hold heat a little better. I too have a Thunderfly tarp that works great, also a Superfly - but switch to a 12’ Dyneema HG trap last year to save some weight. As far as UQ goes, the best I have found is the Lynx by WB. It fits perfectly!!!! Spendy but worth it. I have a 0 degree which gets me through all of fall before I am forced into by gathered end for winter. Great video, really enjoyed it!!!
Nice video, thanks for sharing. The only times I've found myself reaching out for the Ridgerunner as opposed to my Chameleon, is when I'm already packed up for an upcoming trip, and for some reason am doing an overnighter somewhere else, and don't want to unpack the Chameleon. So it's convenient to have a second hammock. The RR is comfortable enough but I find it is too flat, so much so that I added a structural ridgeline on the outside to give it a little sag. The other thing is that the only comfortable position I find is sleeping on my back with my legs straight like a corpse. If I bend a knee it leans against the edge of the hammock at a point where there's a lot of tension, and it's not very comfortable at all. The saddlebags are also not my favorite. I like to keep stuff on my ridgeline where I can see them easily, and the RR doesn't allow that. I've looked into the Banyan that has a nice shelf above, with a ridgeline organizer and other storage options. But since I've not been impressed with the comfort of the RR, I can't justify investing in another bridge hammock.
Townsend Bridge Hammocks are more comfortable, IMO, But I use gathered end hammocks for backpacking to save weight
I never thought a video about hammocks could be so entertaining! You did indeed "make my day!"
I have the newer-style RR in double layer. I took it down to -5 degrees F with a 25-degree UQ and 6.2 R value pad. I also have the Dutchware Gear Banyan (single layer) and only prefer the RR because the dual ridgelines just get in the way in the Banyan. FWIW, the spreader bars that come with the Banyan are aluminum, and they weigh less than the Ruta Locura carb on fiber bars. That's a head scratcher! I'm happy with both hammocks and will use them both for different applications. I'd also recommend the Fugal Innovations buttons for the ends of your spreader bars on the new RR - they work like a charm and were easy to install.
Love my ridgerunner. I was thanking about trying the Amock UL.
Looking at hammocks is like shopping for puppies. :)
Never go to the pound unless you plan to come home with a dog. Same applies to hammock shopping. 😜
2:20 This is the only video or information I have seen anywhere that shows someone inserting a sleeping pad into the Ridgerunner. I am considering getting a hammock and that option appeals to me because I have a quilt and sleeping pad already. Have you ever actually slept with that setup? Was it terrible? If it's raining and you have to feed your sleeping pad into that pocket, is it going to make everything wet and messy?
I haven’t slept in it that way. It was pretty comfortable. Yeah it might get wet in the rain outside of tarp if you aren’t quick. Side note, if you try to layer a pad with an underquilt the underquilt will not be effective.
Great information and good news for all!!!😊😊. ASB
Best intro ever bud!! Second best hammock to a Superior Gear!
Wait until next week. 😜
As you know, one benefit of the double layer is to prevent the pad from sliding. What about that on the on the new model?
I really don’t use a pad.
@@MidwestBackpacker Thank you 😀
Can you change out the shock cord with a lightweight guyline?
Have you tried a Towns End bridge? -spreader bars are moved in from the ends. Looks interesting….
I have not. I’ll have to check it out.
Thanks for the review. Can you fit an insulated air pad inside the new single layer hammock ? And does it affect the side to side balance- as in- is your center of gravity slightly higher? Thanks. John
@@johnm2149 if using a pad, I’d recommend the double layer. It would be difficult to get in and out with a pad
In the single layer. ✌️
Here's a question. Why doesn't Warbonnet offer lighter weight spreader bars as an upgrade with your purchase? $100 seems like a lot to shave 7 oz.
🤷♂️
Fun video! Thanks for sharing. love my RR but sometimes I think I’d like to try a gathered end hammock, however I can never bring myself to do it. The RR never disappoints. Maybe I’ll just upgrade my tarp!
Thank you.
Okay, so I've been watching a lot of hammock videos recently, especially bridge hammocks vs gathered ends. Dutchware Canyon and Ridge runner pop up 1 and 2 all the time. Who likes which more and why? And how does it compare to say the Treble 2.0 hammock system? Not looking for lightweight backpacking, but car camping and glamping in remote 4x4 locations. Thanks!
The Treble 2.0 doesn't seem to be very popular for camping. I don't come across videos of real campers or backpackers using it, just promo videos, and a few old overnight reviewers. I think the downside is that it requires a lot of real estate and 3 evenly-spaced trees or anchor points. With a regular hammock sometimes it's a challenge to find the perfect pair of trees, imagine when you need three. Personally if I wanted a hammock that reclines I'd give the Amok Draumr a try first. The Treble 2.0 along with the Tentsile Tent seem like great toys for kids to play with. If you have a mountain cabin, a camper van, or somewhere to spend your summers you could rig this up for the duration of your stay and let your kids and pets use it.
Salutations de la France !
vos vidéos sont 👌bonne continuation 🤚🏻
How do you prevent mosquitoes from biting through the hammock bottom if not using an underquilt?
🤷♂️ I alway have a quilt. Maybe the double layer hammock and wearing clothes would add protection.
@@MidwestBackpacker Very good. Thank you for your quick reply!
Great videos. I bought a ridge runner hammock and a paria tarp for a motorcycle trip in Costa Rica. I live and tour BC Canada and northern USA and know I need at least a pad for insulation, in Costa Rica it’s mosquitos. Do you think a dbl layer ridge runner will protect me from mosquitos, or bring a pad? It’s a small bike I’m renting so pack space is my problem?
I have been bitten through the hammock, but not often.
Hilarious, loved it!
Have you tried the Dutch Banyan? Just curious as to your thoughts in comparison, or why you chose to go with another warbonnet Hammock.
I have not. I like the ridgerunner. 😎
@@MidwestBackpacker Warnonnet definitely makes some great hammocks! I love my XLC!
Awesome vid.
Oh my goodness!
😂😅😂😅
Any issues with the ridge runner being a little tippy? Have seen that on other videos.
Tippier than gathered end but you get used to it. No worries.
@@MidwestBackpacker I bought the Ridgerunner and I am really excited about it, Haven't had it in the woods yet but probably had 10 hours or so at home in it, watching videos reading and napping. Really comfortable, especially for a side-sleeper. As for being tippy you are correct. It took me a total of maybe 2 minutes to get used to it.
@@John_P290 did you get a double layer? Experiment with a pad in it.
@@MidwestBackpacker No, single. I have a DYI 40 degree underquilt that fits perfectly. I'm a 72 year old backpacker that needs to keep the weight down. But I subscribe to your theory of sleep being so important and I will sacrifice a weight penalty for pleasant dreams.
Nice intro.
I'm 230 so can't use the single layer but want a ridgerunner, you interested in selling your old one? :)
Sorry. I am keeping it for my winter set up.
I’m sorry, but is this a Jeremiah Stringer advertisement? LMAO
Great comparison, thanks for uploading.
I am looking at getting into hammock camping and would appreciate some comments on the Draumr as compared to the Ridgerunner:
Which is easier to set up?
Which is more stable (the Draumr tips head-to-toe so am wondering how this feels when turning in the hammock, I tend to sleep on my side)?
Can you sit in the Ridgerunner (this seems to be a big selling point for the Draumr)?
Can the Ridgerunner be set up with trekking poles in an emergency when no suitable trees are available (there is a video of someone on UA-cam doing this with the Draumr, although it does not seem to be encouraged by Amok as it may invalidate the warranty ua-cam.com/video/qCNRCN-g9GY/v-deo.html)?
Thanks,
Felix
I never never used the Draumar. Sorry. I have never seen a hammock you can set up with hiking poles replacing trees. Yes, you can sit in the Ridgerunner with your feet on the ground. Thanks for watching.
@@MidwestBackpacker Thanks for the response.
I meant in case of absolute necessity, the trekking poles could be used to hold up the bug net so that at least this functionality was maintained.
Not sure if you have seen the Haven Tent, but that design seems to lend itself for this unfavorable eventuality.
Keep up the fantastic work and looking forward to the continuation of this hammock series.
Hi there. I don’t have a RR, but do have an Amok XL and can speak to it. It definitely swings fore and aft, but eventually settles down. If you are moving around to much compared to a gathered end hammock it’s going to swing a bit more. Albeit in a different direction. My biggest issue with my Amok is I’m a sides sleeper and when switching sides the weight of my legs somehow pushes the pad or bends it downwards and it flips up again to flat. Horribly annoying and I have tried two different pads(one shorter than the other, but otherwise same design) to no avail. Hence why I’m interested in Ridgerunner also.
@@MidwestBackpacker I have an Amock Draumr. They are a bit goofy getting in and out and they tend to swing a little but once you get used to it (and keeping yourself in the center) it is the most comfortable hammock I've been in and the most comfortable sleep you will get in the woods. Chair mode is awesome and if you lean the chair mode back a little (like a n easy chair) you cannot stay awake in it. Also chair mode allows you to drink a beer and play guitar.
I dig it. Those hammocks are like sleeping in a bed.
The Dirty Harry character is hilarious
How much you want for your OLD Ridgerunner?
Not for sale. Thank you.
That intro was hilarious!!!! 🤣 For a heavier guy like me i haven't found anything better than the XLC or better than a Warbonnet in general for that matter. Great review! 👍👍
Do you think the metal bar
Hahahah...lol....yer intro is killin me...
Quick! The Emmys are tonight and this video intro is a shoe-in for best drama!
Love the intro and end. Maybe movie star?
can you pee out the side easily?
I can not.
You pick the option you want when you order a ridgerunner. These are the same hammock with just different options. So useless video.
But you commented, so thanks! 😜