For those of you who have been commenting about perceived equivocations to actual crimes - It’s analogous , not literal. “The trial of tft” is a thematic motif, not a call to action. People have a hard time grasping in game specifics at times especially if it’s outside their wheelhouse- the analogous terminology is used to provide a logical framework for people to digest the argument or substance of the video in a way that might make more sense to them. I thought this was obvious but in case it was not- I am not suggesting we imprison Jenebu , nor am I suggesting that RMTing is the same as murder. Please exercise some common sense. P.S. scarily appropriate UA-cam short that was just recommended to me that succinctly explains how TFT has been able to operate ua-cam.com/users/shortsM8j1xWbyfjI?si=-MQnOrnwH8F4Ov66 PPS. The first 50 whining comments about my mic were sufficient , thank you. I will fix it for future videos
@@bartekowca666 I'd like to think that a lot of us are at least somewhat competent. The POE subreddit however....not so much. Then again, that short is pretty spot on and applies to so many things in life
Tried posting this video to Reddit and it instantly got taken down. Same thing when you create anything with Belton in the title. This should be further evidence that the Reddit mod team tries actively to be biased in this thing.
One of the mods there was also a mod for TFT. So that's no surprise. Edit: The reddit mod has just "resigned" from the POE reddit. Obviously he was told to step down by the others after continuously getting them caught up in his shit and abusing his power to cover for TFT.
It's on the front page now, titled "New Vid (in description) discussing the Mirror Items / RMT of TFT". jwfiredragon, livejamie, and many other mods are gone.
It should be pointed out that it was taken down temporarily by the automoderator, due a flood of fake reports, but an actual mod has since restored it. I suppose the mods should be criticized for misconfiguring their automod-tool, but considering that the real problematic TFT spy mod "was resigned" recently, I don't think this should be referred to as "active bias" anymore.
Craziest thing I experienced with them is I got banned from the discord after being there since there inception simply for joining your discord. I asked on the tft discord if anyone was einhar memory rotation and got no response in an hour and decided to join your discord to ask and got banned from tft the next day. I never had a single infraction or negative post sent about me. I was an exalted provider since harvest league meaning I had over 200+ services. I tried to appeal it and got no reply lmao. Truly clown shows 🤡
This was also my experience. I heard people getting banned just for being associated with Belton, at first I was like eh, they probably did something, or said something toxic somewhere and didn't think much of it. Figured as long as i was a good boy and just stuck to what i was there for (to learn crafting) i would be safe, np. I typed once in belton's discord and TFT shadow banned me. I didn't even get a notification, the TFT server was just gone from my list. trying to rejoin just gives me an error. Didnt try any further attempts because i figured if that was the kind of people TFT was being run by then Its probably not worth pursuing.
Bro that's what you get for interacting with someone they don't like. TFT mirroring IRL greed, jealousy and anger in a gamer Discord. I deleted my Discord and I had a high standing in TFT like you, but I didn't care. I'd rather do everything in-game, and I'll run my own Juns and will go for my own challenges(though buying challenges was really convenient.)
my man said on stream that he wouldn't make a video about it and spend next days to enjoy birthday and take some time off with family. Proceeds to not give a f and still upload a video. Gigachad
Much love dude. I hope more people see this, and are able to see how fucked up this is, even outside of a video game. I'll be keeping an eye out for your next video. Enjoy your break
Wow, man, the amount of research. This should be almost a Coffeezilla video, and I feel this is a first for video games. We have our first real in-game mafia, and thanks to your work it is for all to see! Take your time off man, you deserved it! It is up to us as the community and GGG to take a stand!
not even close to the first one. recently had the runescape drama with mod trident. the whole gamergate fiasco was far larger than this where games "journalists" were sleeping with publishers to in exchange play bat for them.
I've always known Belton was right, I've had run ins with both VMVarga (back when that was his name) and Belton and from all accounts Belton is just a genuine honest guy, and Varga is a power hungry asshole. I traded some big items with Belton back before he streamed, back when we were both in Lighty's guild and he didn't have the exalts at the time but he promised to pay me back, and like the man of his word he is, he did. I've never even exchanged words with the guy besides messaging in game, and he kept his word. My interactions with Varga however were not great, after coming back from a break from PoE were I didn't play for a league, some of my stuff on standard went legacy, I logged in only to be instantly whispered by Varga to buy a couple items I had listed from before I took said break, I simply explained that clearly the price isn't correct and I won't sell it for the listed price since it was 3 months old and now legacy, he proceeded to call me an idiot for not selling my items at the price I listed them at, and after calling him rude for making that remark, I alt tabbed to look at discord since I knew exactly what he was going to do, and in a massive twist in the plot he banned me from TFT (big surprise). I responded to him calling him a power tripping asshole and some other unsavory names, he ended up ignoring me in game so I can no longer message him, oh well really not a loss on my part, I barely used the discord anyway.
@@livingwild-vm1bi GGG is filled with evil geniuses. The whole concept of Path of Exile was to create a free to play video game while also using 3rd party rmt sites to enrich themselves. And it's not only GGG that does this, other gaming companies do the same. Kripparian and other content creators are also involved. There have been sooo many clues but people still can't solve 1+1...
I don’t want to seem like a lackey who is jumping on the hate bandwagon, but Belton you are an OG and your efforts are valued! Keep up the good work brother.
It’s sometimes a bit hard to digest all of beltons output but I’ve always believed his side of things. Nice to see him get an opportunity to show the truth again. Hopefully it gives the community an insight into who Belton is and always has been.
Ya the mic quality and the constant noise really detracted from the message. That and possibly trying to take it a bit slower, coming from a fast talker. Luckily i saw you in another video, and it overshadowed this one. Hopefully you watch your own videos and adjust accordingly. You seem like someone it would be worth listening to.
much love bro, sorry you had to deal with all this bs. i admire your hard work and perseverance in gathering and sharing all this data with the community. you are absolutely goat'd.
4 Days later and I'm still waiting for their "long detailed post" on TFT, thought it was weird that they brought you up when drama started to happen. They knew shit was going down and they had to make themselves look as good as they could, classic deflection.
They posted a comment about later this week they will air everything out with their own detailed post. 12 hours ago ish they posted that Jenebu was stepping down and 6 other mods were. Basically bowing out because they got caught red handed. Looking forward to see what GGG does as well.@@lazakamikaza1359
forensic analysis and accounting in PoE..... this community never ceases to amaze me. its really sad that we have some super shady characters in positions of respect in the community when this is what we are capable of
I just watched your video from 11 months ago on tft, funny how it's so relevant it might as well have come out last week and perfectly leads jnto this video.
btw, don't let this put you off the game. This is an unfortunate rise of drama that keeps bubbling out of TFT, its a serious issue for high-end (read: top 0.01%) and as someone with 6,000hours in the game, I have never ran into these issues because honestly, I'm just not at their level.
@@clondike7same, which makes me feel like a bad person for using TFT to bulk sell essences and Aislings when I farm them. I figure it's the same as Big retail store "boycotts" for justice reasons, but it truly is a 0.1 percenter problem, and maybe GGG with the RMT and lack of official functionality. Definitely not a casual just play the game problem.
Hey belton ive watched you for a while and im really happy that people are realizing less so how fucked up tft is. And moreso how honest and hardworking YOU are as a person. I have massive respect for you as a person and i hope you keep up the great work ❤
Time is now for community reps like Zizeren to ask tough questions to GGG and clean up trade league. It SUCKS that RMT means players are cut out of from hinekora locks last league, or good TWWT jewels this league
Yep, but no. "People" like Ziz or Steel won't cover this sht at least for few reasons: Im playing SSF means im in the house; Playing HC means im in the house. They don't give a single damn about RMT nor about TFT shills.
It feels like this whole thing is going to blow into GGG face at some point. It almost feels like there's somebody obfuscating actions on that side so no in game actions would be taken
yeah. puts on tinfoil hat* - it almost feels like ggg themselves are balls deep in this, too. Or at least some people there or its about them losing big money if they lose tft people or something
It hasn't so far, basic pattern recognition would tell you that if they haven't done anything about TFT in the past despite the evidence, they likely won't care/do anything now either.
lol @ the sacred life force story from a couple leagues ago. I remember selling mine at like 3 div and then holding on to ones I found after because the price was skyrocketing. Then the next day they were like 1 div as you said. Hilarious that Jenebu got owned so bad on that.
Hey, wanna say I was sceptical at first when I saw your videos as I wouldnt belive that guys that created massive portal like this would ever need to do shit like that. After this league and seeing how jenebu lost his shit about the russian dude free mirror bow I've become convinced that all you said was indeed true. I will never mirror items from them again. Thanks for the work Belton wish you luck.
I’m new to PoE this season and this is absolutely fascinating to me. I’ve only used TfT to get 2 voidstones because I’m a noob and somewhat slow to progress. But all this evidence is pretty damning to me. When people so ruthlessly attack their competition you have to ask why. Usually that why is money.
@@TheGroberUnfugthis is fantastic proof and I am convinced that the people running tft use rmt to fund their personal lives. Unless they all live in an apartment together living on welfare you cannot play this much and not end up homeless
Since the game itself lacks a good trading mechanic, I wouldn't be surprised if somebody working for GGG is the head of TFT or somewhere around him under a different name trying to make up for that and because of that don't want to go around banning anyone/anything that has anything to do with TFT.
GGG has to take a stance on this short term. Not banning rmt is against everything PoE is supposed to stand for. Long term - GGG better have a solid fix for the trade situation in the works. There are ways, surely.
@@serifcetinalp7176 Can't link sht on youtube, you have to find it yourself. Name of vid is "The TFT incident Ft Ruetoo" from channel "Conner Converse"
As someone brand new to PoE this league, I could see the issues TFT was causing without having any knowledge of the idea. Seeing people with 5-7k locks and listing them well above what most people are selling is no longer an ease of service trade or what not but a purposeful control of a player market.
Jenebu listed his locks at 420d as a flex/meme, not for fixing up prices, you could easily buy those much cheaper on trade. I do despise the guy for several reasons but this particular instance of him owning 90%+ of hinekora market had a different purpose than price manipulation, he simply gambled on locks growing in value in standard. Sure his organization’s insane buying power affected the prices but mere act of buying them out is not particularly reprehensible. And were I to hold that many, I would flex ‘em too. I would even say those were very cool and eventful to see.
Never tried TFT as it looks complicated to me, also I don't want to be on Discord. Thanks for explaining this situation. All the best from a SSF player.
Man you're speaking up since ages much respect for that. But I've got a question. I saw that in some of your videos you dismiss trades if people are not fast enough to react. What if a player, who drops a super high value item like a mirror or a rly good TWWT but doesn't have a lot of experience in trading such high value items messages you about such an item? I don't have one, just curious :D
Now is the time if ever to go hard exposing those rats. Watch them scurry and go damage control. Big creators will catch wind of this, and there will be redemption once it picks up.
do people really think that the owners of TFT invest so much time in the game/discord and don't get a money return ? It's just life, people do things for money
i recommend 1:57:34 on the vod, great entertainment i must say. the stained, fucked up sweatshirt and his gut gave me trailer park boys vibes. 10/10 - fuck tft
Thanks for another informative video. I do hope GGG posts something but if not just keep collecting those receipts and help push to the community to alternate ways to trade. Also might be time to ask GGG general questions about rmt and such with trade during QnAs.
"Preponderance of evidence" is a term for civil court and trials It basically means 51% vs 49% and, in fact, tipping the scales in your favor over the opposing side . "Beyond a reasonable doubt" is the criminal court burden of proof which is pretty much and reasonable person would find someone GUILTY of something based on evidence presented.. You, my good Sir, definitely proved your case.
Usually when people talk this fast, know what the fuck they are talking about. To whoever did all that research... holy shit. You guys are the FBI of PoE.
Once I realized TFT was a ton of elitist D-bags I stopped bothering. The only thing I miss is selling Aisling and buying challenges. Belton I want you to know, that to get a copy of Loath Thunder, I traded up to divines, bummed my friends and guildies for currency, sold a damn Demigods Sword that I never planned on selling just so I could snag Loath Thunder. Absolutely worth it, though it makes me not really want to play my other characters haha.
I've been playing for 10 years and am now realizing how much of a pleb i am lol. I thought i was hot shit this league making 126 divs in like 4 days of farming. I mean i always knew of people that make currency like this but it's just crazy to see it all laid out like this
I just want to create mirror tier items just to annoy bad apples. Just. Put some more just into that sentence. Alas, my items are crap and I am a clown. Annoy them on my behalf, brother.
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For those of you who have been commenting about perceived equivocations to actual crimes -
It’s analogous , not literal. “The trial of tft” is a thematic motif, not a call to action. People have a hard time grasping in game specifics at times especially if it’s outside their wheelhouse- the analogous terminology is used to provide a logical framework for people to digest the argument or substance of the video in a way that might make more sense to them.
I thought this was obvious but in case it was not- I am not suggesting we imprison Jenebu , nor am I suggesting that RMTing is the same as murder.
Please exercise some common sense.
P.S. scarily appropriate UA-cam short that was just recommended to me that succinctly explains how TFT has been able to operate
ua-cam.com/users/shortsM8j1xWbyfjI?si=-MQnOrnwH8F4Ov66
PPS. The first 50 whining comments about my mic were sufficient , thank you. I will fix it for future videos
>common sense
>poe playerbase
pick one
@@bartekowca666 I'd like to think that a lot of us are at least somewhat competent. The POE subreddit however....not so much. Then again, that short is pretty spot on and applies to so many things in life
is the obsidian notebook publicly available?
I hope this time finally Mr. Goat will win
I got banned for asking for mageblood. Banned for begging 2 week ago
Tried posting this video to Reddit and it instantly got taken down.
Same thing when you create anything with Belton in the title.
This should be further evidence that the Reddit mod team tries actively to be biased in this thing.
One of the mods there was also a mod for TFT. So that's no surprise.
Edit: The reddit mod has just "resigned" from the POE reddit. Obviously he was told to step down by the others after continuously getting them caught up in his shit and abusing his power to cover for TFT.
It's on the front page now, titled "New Vid (in description) discussing the Mirror Items / RMT of TFT". jwfiredragon, livejamie, and many other mods are gone.
It should be pointed out that it was taken down temporarily by the automoderator, due a flood of fake reports, but an actual mod has since restored it. I suppose the mods should be criticized for misconfiguring their automod-tool, but considering that the real problematic TFT spy mod "was resigned" recently, I don't think this should be referred to as "active bias" anymore.
Reddit mods are child predators. That's not me memeing, but a googleable fact.
Also the fact that GGG is literally in league with TFT on this, and only know decided to intervene because of Last Epoch
Craziest thing I experienced with them is I got banned from the discord after being there since there inception simply for joining your discord. I asked on the tft discord if anyone was einhar memory rotation and got no response in an hour and decided to join your discord to ask and got banned from tft the next day. I never had a single infraction or negative post sent about me. I was an exalted provider since harvest league meaning I had over 200+ services. I tried to appeal it and got no reply lmao. Truly clown shows 🤡
This was also my experience. I heard people getting banned just for being associated with Belton, at first I was like eh, they probably did something, or said something toxic somewhere and didn't think much of it. Figured as long as i was a good boy and just stuck to what i was there for (to learn crafting) i would be safe, np. I typed once in belton's discord and TFT shadow banned me. I didn't even get a notification, the TFT server was just gone from my list. trying to rejoin just gives me an error. Didnt try any further attempts because i figured if that was the kind of people TFT was being run by then Its probably not worth pursuing.
Did you get your Einhar though?
@@novotd443 I don't think there's any where that advertises Einhar rotas sadly. I'd like this too.
@@novotd443 nope lol but in beltons channel I got a reply saying they were busy at least.
Bro that's what you get for interacting with someone they don't like. TFT mirroring IRL greed, jealousy and anger in a gamer Discord.
I deleted my Discord and I had a high standing in TFT like you, but I didn't care. I'd rather do everything in-game, and I'll run my own Juns and will go for my own challenges(though buying challenges was really convenient.)
The multistack average poe player
- MS Office skills
- Economic skills
- Forensic skills
- Legal skills
- Military skills
@@danyadem4534 Hardly.
my man said on stream that he wouldn't make a video about it and spend next days to enjoy birthday and take some time off with family. Proceeds to not give a f and still upload a video. Gigachad
"this is only gonna be about a 10 or 15 minute video" - classic belton quote xD
We live in a time where you can watch a 30 minute video about drama in a video game discord used for trading digital bows.
Much love dude. I hope more people see this, and are able to see how fucked up this is, even outside of a video game. I'll be keeping an eye out for your next video. Enjoy your break
This man went trough hell for us
He even lost all his hair last league
@@asdfghjsdfgg1841Belton is going to turn into Saitama in crush tft office 🤣
@@asdfghjsdfgg1841 Did he try to craft it back?
Wow, man, the amount of research. This should be almost a Coffeezilla video, and I feel this is a first for video games. We have our first real in-game mafia, and thanks to your work it is for all to see! Take your time off man, you deserved it! It is up to us as the community and GGG to take a stand!
it's so insane to see this, i started with sacrifice of the vaal and to see this game grow into having an actual mafia organisation is mind blowing
not even close to the first one. recently had the runescape drama with mod trident. the whole gamergate fiasco was far larger than this where games "journalists" were sleeping with publishers to in exchange play bat for them.
Belton taking the belt off and giving TFT a well deserved beating.
Enjoy the grass brother
I've always known Belton was right, I've had run ins with both VMVarga (back when that was his name) and Belton and from all accounts Belton is just a genuine honest guy, and Varga is a power hungry asshole. I traded some big items with Belton back before he streamed, back when we were both in Lighty's guild and he didn't have the exalts at the time but he promised to pay me back, and like the man of his word he is, he did. I've never even exchanged words with the guy besides messaging in game, and he kept his word.
My interactions with Varga however were not great, after coming back from a break from PoE were I didn't play for a league, some of my stuff on standard went legacy, I logged in only to be instantly whispered by Varga to buy a couple items I had listed from before I took said break, I simply explained that clearly the price isn't correct and I won't sell it for the listed price since it was 3 months old and now legacy, he proceeded to call me an idiot for not selling my items at the price I listed them at, and after calling him rude for making that remark, I alt tabbed to look at discord since I knew exactly what he was going to do, and in a massive twist in the plot he banned me from TFT (big surprise). I responded to him calling him a power tripping asshole and some other unsavory names, he ended up ignoring me in game so I can no longer message him, oh well really not a loss on my part, I barely used the discord anyway.
gigachad himself
Had no idea so many ppl used TFT. Been playing for like 7 years never used it before
Ggg needs to not only take down tft but permsban all of their mods from the game.
By ggg not standing by their TOS makes them look complicit asf. Such a shame, I love this game. Or did
Won't happen. One of the founders literally ran a rmt site. I see this is nothing except a way to distance themselves from rmt while profiting.
yup, there are surely deals between them and money behind the scenes
@@livingwild-vm1bi GGG is filled with evil geniuses. The whole concept of Path of Exile was to create a free to play video game while also using 3rd party rmt sites to enrich themselves. And it's not only GGG that does this, other gaming companies do the same. Kripparian and other content creators are also involved. There have been sooo many clues but people still can't solve 1+1...
I don’t want to seem like a lackey who is jumping on the hate bandwagon, but Belton you are an OG and your efforts are valued! Keep up the good work brother.
It’s sometimes a bit hard to digest all of beltons output but I’ve always believed his side of things. Nice to see him get an opportunity to show the truth again. Hopefully it gives the community an insight into who Belton is and always has been.
the twitch video linked in the description is 4 hours, the content starts at around 2:22 there
brother stop slamming your desk
Ya the mic quality and the constant noise really detracted from the message. That and possibly trying to take it a bit slower, coming from a fast talker. Luckily i saw you in another video, and it overshadowed this one. Hopefully you watch your own videos and adjust accordingly. You seem like someone it would be worth listening to.
It funny how defensive Empy Got and tried to dismiss localidentity because he did not know the term "showcase item".
empy's a loser
Rft has him on a short leash
empy is a tft puppet. brought up by tft people, acts like tft people. no surprise here
make up a term then use it to defend a shitty action 🤡
empy is tft shill
I watched all previous videos and now the vod. Kinda hard to comment after all of it but... I truly wish you nothing but success moving forward.
Thank you my friend, same to you. 🙏🏻
The guy admitting to RMT and providing video proof is wild.
Wtf is GGG doing?
“Just want to put out a quick video regarding TFT”
30 mins later…
30 mins no doubt is a quick video for Belton
much love bro, sorry you had to deal with all this bs. i admire your hard work and perseverance in gathering and sharing all this data with the community. you are absolutely goat'd.
I wouldn’t be surprised if the API that allows for data access like this is suddenly disabled
^abso-fucking-lutely this :D
I was thinking the same.. they arent on our side here
4 Days later and I'm still waiting for their "long detailed post" on TFT, thought it was weird that they brought you up when drama started to happen. They knew shit was going down and they had to make themselves look as good as they could, classic deflection.
How is the air there now? Are they panicking and writing something? I dont have access so i cant see :D
They posted a comment about later this week they will air everything out with their own detailed post. 12 hours ago ish they posted that Jenebu was stepping down and 6 other mods were. Basically bowing out because they got caught red handed. Looking forward to see what GGG does as well.@@lazakamikaza1359
Incredible research & evidence, very compelling argument. Great job!
Man Asmon is getting a ton of free content from this shit
forensic analysis and accounting in PoE..... this community never ceases to amaze me. its really sad that we have some super shady characters in positions of respect in the community when this is what we are capable of
as always clean and precise, very well made video sir
I just watched your video from 11 months ago on tft, funny how it's so relevant it might as well have come out last week and perfectly leads jnto this video.
3.23 will forever be Belton's Redemption Arc for me
Im recently new-ish and Ive already had issues with TFT, so to see this news is so revealing! Thank you so much
btw, don't let this put you off the game. This is an unfortunate rise of drama that keeps bubbling out of TFT, its a serious issue for high-end (read: top 0.01%) and as someone with 6,000hours in the game, I have never ran into these issues because honestly, I'm just not at their level.
If GGG doesn't do anything, it WILL put off the game.
@@clondike7
@@clondike7same, which makes me feel like a bad person for using TFT to bulk sell essences and Aislings when I farm them. I figure it's the same as Big retail store "boycotts" for justice reasons, but it truly is a 0.1 percenter problem, and maybe GGG with the RMT and lack of official functionality. Definitely not a casual just play the game problem.
Hey belton ive watched you for a while and im really happy that people are realizing less so how fucked up tft is. And moreso how honest and hardworking YOU are as a person. I have massive respect for you as a person and i hope you keep up the great work ❤
Wow, the poe2 passive tree looks awesome!
belton is john wick right now for TFT lol
This is epic. You are a legend.
Happy birthday Belton.
What a CHAD
subbed. thank you for your work and anyone involved in this video!
im about to get stalked online lmao
Time is now for community reps like Zizeren to ask tough questions to GGG and clean up trade league. It SUCKS that RMT means players are cut out of from hinekora locks last league, or good TWWT jewels this league
Yep, but no. "People" like Ziz or Steel won't cover this sht at least for few reasons: Im playing SSF means im in the house; Playing HC means im in the house. They don't give a single damn about RMT nor about TFT shills.
@@Evil_Arthas ziz lit. said hes gonna talk to ggg about it
I don't know if your mic is on your desk or not but the smashing sounds are driving me crazy.
Kinda happy I got the ckaiba bow in affliction. Hero of the community. Was my first ever mirror item and it kinda got a history.
It feels like this whole thing is going to blow into GGG face at some point. It almost feels like there's somebody obfuscating actions on that side so no in game actions would be taken
yeah. puts on tinfoil hat* - it almost feels like ggg themselves are balls deep in this, too. Or at least some people there or its about them losing big money if they lose tft people or something
@@Exiled_Raven Bro, the devs started their ARPG careers on d2jsp. No way they don't know about this.
It hasn't so far, basic pattern recognition would tell you that if they haven't done anything about TFT in the past despite the evidence, they likely won't care/do anything now either.
lol @ the sacred life force story from a couple leagues ago. I remember selling mine at like 3 div and then holding on to ones I found after because the price was skyrocketing. Then the next day they were like 1 div as you said. Hilarious that Jenebu got owned so bad on that.
Let's go belton. engagement.
Belton might be a bit crazy and having an offputting personality, but you can't deny he is passionate about the game and really cares.
That was really passive
Hey, wanna say I was sceptical at first when I saw your videos as I wouldnt belive that guys that created massive portal like this would ever need to do shit like that. After this league and seeing how jenebu lost his shit about the russian dude free mirror bow I've become convinced that all you said was indeed true. I will never mirror items from them again. Thanks for the work Belton wish you luck.
I’m new to PoE this season and this is absolutely fascinating to me. I’ve only used TfT to get 2 voidstones because I’m a noob and somewhat slow to progress. But all this evidence is pretty damning to me. When people so ruthlessly attack their competition you have to ask why. Usually that why is money.
and this is proof that holds up in murder trial? get a grip on reality, fool
@@TheGroberUnfugthis is fantastic proof and I am convinced that the people running tft use rmt to fund their personal lives. Unless they all live in an apartment together living on welfare you cannot play this much and not end up homeless
0:55 thank you for being honest
much respect
I've known TFT was shady from the beginning. I have no platform nor time for one. Times are diff now. +1000 for belton and his time and effort.
holy ---- that d2jsp post is damning
Since the game itself lacks a good trading mechanic, I wouldn't be surprised if somebody working for GGG is the head of TFT or somewhere around him under a different name trying to make up for that and because of that don't want to go around banning anyone/anything that has anything to do with TFT.
If you know how chris funded path of exile youd understand the companies inaction for matters like this
How did he? Do we have a source for this?
Can you be more punctual
@@Spywaredevyou should start at ggg handing out Lightning Coils in the early days
Don't let these people bring you down brother, stay strong.
Thanks for all the work!
GGG has to take a stance on this short term. Not banning rmt is against everything PoE is supposed to stand for. Long term - GGG better have a solid fix for the trade situation in the works. There are ways, surely.
Belton arbitraged the TFT drama 🤣
Happy Birthday dude lets blow up this vid guys
Keep it a buck bro, love your consistency here and all of the facts produced, on your side here homie
It's not a conspiracy if it's true.
@@rhye_guy7717he wrote consistency not conspiracy
@@rhye_guy7717he said consistency where the fuck u read conspiracy
One mana left did a good vid with Ruetoo too showing the shady dealings of TFT. Theyve gotten too big
do you have the link to that video?
@@serifcetinalp7176 ua-cam.com/video/RtgieCy8Ouk/v-deo.htmlsi=oM7I1Sxqh6-fYhZ4
@@serifcetinalp7176 ua-cam.com/video/RtgieCy8Ouk/v-deo.htmlsi=bMhXppZ1VHSzovRL
@@serifcetinalp7176connerconverse is the UA-cam channel. One of the latest videos
@@serifcetinalp7176 Can't link sht on youtube, you have to find it yourself. Name of vid is "The TFT incident Ft Ruetoo" from channel "Conner Converse"
"they can't even cheat like winners"
As someone brand new to PoE this league, I could see the issues TFT was causing without having any knowledge of the idea. Seeing people with 5-7k locks and listing them well above what most people are selling is no longer an ease of service trade or what not but a purposeful control of a player market.
Jenebu listed his locks at 420d as a flex/meme, not for fixing up prices, you could easily buy those much cheaper on trade. I do despise the guy for several reasons but this particular instance of him owning 90%+ of hinekora market had a different purpose than price manipulation, he simply gambled on locks growing in value in standard. Sure his organization’s insane buying power affected the prices but mere act of buying them out is not particularly reprehensible.
And were I to hold that many, I would flex ‘em too. I would even say those were very cool and eventful to see.
Brought them to RMT on standard ? @@AryanSupersoldier
Never tried TFT as it looks complicated to me, also I don't want to be on Discord. Thanks for explaining this situation. All the best from a SSF player.
Based position
Total TFT members 499863 - 1 in 30 sec. Leave leave leave and get the number down
What's that persistent bumping noise?
this gives me vibes of Chris Gore's Film Threat series - "Star Wars in Trial".
The Literal GigaChad, You may Schizo post but you are right every time.
Man you're speaking up since ages much respect for that.
But I've got a question. I saw that in some of your videos you dismiss trades if people are not fast enough to react. What if a player, who drops a super high value item like a mirror or a rly good TWWT but doesn't have a lot of experience in trading such high value items messages you about such an item? I don't have one, just curious :D
It’s mostly for the sake of videos
Now is the time if ever to go hard exposing those rats. Watch them scurry and go damage control.
Big creators will catch wind of this, and there will be redemption once it picks up.
I question that. I have a feeling some creators are in on it as well.
Need to send it to Asmongold, he watched Palsteron's video but Pal didn't really go into the RMT allegations, only that GGG needed to change trade.
Nothing will change. Sadly, its best to just save our breath.
do people really think that the owners of TFT invest so much time in the game/discord and don't get a money return ? It's just life, people do things for money
i recommend 1:57:34 on the vod, great entertainment i must say. the stained, fucked up sweatshirt and his gut gave me trailer park boys vibes. 10/10 - fuck tft
Jenebu is Chris Wilson 😂
At this point, nothing would surprise me.
he is not. some people know the rl name and adress of janebu aka varga.
dont bump the mic next time
Hell yeah brother
Tier Fricking Two
Is there a way to get our hands on the obsidian vault?
You guys should be doing some rocket science lol the graphics are beautiful btw whoever managed to pull it out
Thanks for another informative video. I do hope GGG posts something but if not just keep collecting those receipts and help push to the community to alternate ways to trade. Also might be time to ask GGG general questions about rmt and such with trade during QnAs.
I'm sure someone is totally getting paid under the table. Someone laundering their money too..
"Preponderance of evidence" is a term for civil court and trials It basically means 51% vs 49% and, in fact, tipping the scales in your favor over the opposing side . "Beyond a reasonable doubt" is the criminal court burden of proof which is pretty much and reasonable person would find someone GUILTY of something based on evidence presented..
You, my good Sir, definitely proved your case.
Thank you Belton
Insane effort. Marvelous!
Usually when people talk this fast, know what the fuck they are talking about. To whoever did all that research... holy shit. You guys are the FBI of PoE.
This fucking channel is the best. Keep on rocking in the free world my dude.
holly shit my bro. had to put the vid on 0.75. But it was worth, great summary.
Ggg of corruption
im a believer now
Your health comes first man, good decision.
I really hope Chris watches this.
Once I realized TFT was a ton of elitist D-bags I stopped bothering. The only thing I miss is selling Aisling and buying challenges.
Belton I want you to know, that to get a copy of Loath Thunder, I traded up to divines, bummed my friends and guildies for currency, sold a damn Demigods Sword that I never planned on selling just so I could snag Loath Thunder. Absolutely worth it, though it makes me not really want to play my other characters haha.
I've been playing for 10 years and am now realizing how much of a pleb i am lol. I thought i was hot shit this league making 126 divs in like 4 days of farming. I mean i always knew of people that make currency like this but it's just crazy to see it all laid out like this
belton is one of them.
its the same playbook with trump
look the others have it better, im on your side
@@TheGroberUnfug That's nice
Never dealt with tft so what is this all about?
Nice man, I think it's time for a change. Hope GGG will take action this time.
Such copium... Come back to reality exile.
that sacred lifeforce story lmao!
Dude your face in that mug. 🤣🤣🤣
commenting for algorithm, love the thumbnail lol, gl wolf!
I just want to create mirror tier items just to annoy bad apples.
Just. Put some more just into that sentence.
Alas, my items are crap and I am a clown. Annoy them on my behalf, brother.
please god stop hitting your table
Sorry my set up is quite old , ill try moving the mic next time
@@BeltonPoE A mic stand/arm with shock mount should help a lot if you aren't using one already
thank you