Understand Phase with this Trick? Revolutionary? Probably Not.

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  • Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
  • Understand phase with this trick by shifting two identical basses. One is flipped 180 degrees and then faded in using a gate.
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  • @sub40hz
    @sub40hz 2 місяці тому

    Plugin idea… Phaze Comp. 😉
    Great tutorial and idea.
    Hyper critical production techniques for those who want a clean mix.
    I see its benefit.
    Many don’t understand Phase regarding sounds occupying the same area of the frequency spectrum. ❤

  • @agoturk2594
    @agoturk2594 3 місяці тому +1

    Thanks for this tutorial to make us think about a creative use of phase cancellation. Maybe not the best sounding way to do sidechaining to my taste, but a great way to think out of the box and as a sound engineer. Definitely a good way to improve our skills. Thanks!

    • @demishellen
      @demishellen  3 місяці тому +1

      You got it, understanding phase is difficult at the best of time and this idea sparked another way to explain it.

  • @jvaddison
    @jvaddison 3 місяці тому +3

    What is the advantage to doing it this way? volume shaping/LFO Tool would be better than this way, or am i missing something?

    • @demishellen
      @demishellen  3 місяці тому

      No advantage, just a bit of fun to show how phase works. 😎 It more about teaching phase and how it works.

  • @polznbladz3242
    @polznbladz3242 3 місяці тому +2

    I found the masters of the kick and bass are the psytrance producers. Those guys get it perfect.. It's not as important to get perfect in trance and the kicks are longer. I try to get the kick length shortened to fit the sub as perfect as possible. Using a clipper on the kick also helps with transient shaping and adds a bit of warmth.

    • @demishellen
      @demishellen  3 місяці тому +1

      True, it is said if you master psytrance you have mastered the control of low frequencies 😎

    • @CrtksVision
      @CrtksVision 3 місяці тому +1

      Lol you forgot Drum and bass producers bruv

    • @polznbladz3242
      @polznbladz3242 3 місяці тому

      @@CrtksVision I wouldn't know about dnb. It matters in most music but noticed psytrance producers is an exact science. I only producer trance

  • @deveyous6614
    @deveyous6614 3 місяці тому +1

    He could also possibly just be selecting bass notes which dont share the same fundemental as the kick to avoid that overlap, although I don't like the limitation that imposes. I use Ableton but I'll try and replicate this later, it's always facinated me how artists can get that offbeat thick pumping feel without ever losing power from either the kick or bass when playing different notes.

    • @demishellen
      @demishellen  3 місяці тому +1

      Have fun with it, I would imagine it will help with understanding Phase more than anything. 😎 Keep you lows simple and don't be tempted to over process to achieve results. 👍🏻

  • @undergrads
    @undergrads 3 місяці тому +1

    I'm so sorry....I'm clearly stupid.
    What if "Sub 1" is a sine......and "Sub 2" is a saw....? --> Wouldn't that avoid this issue..........or no?

    • @demishellen
      @demishellen  3 місяці тому

      No phase cancellation can only work with duplicate sounds that are identical. Subs tend to be a mix of saws, square triangle etc. but you much duplicate the track once the sub is made for it to identical. Look at how to extract vocals from a song the old pre AI days. 👍🏼🙂

  • @StevenSmethurst
    @StevenSmethurst 3 місяці тому

    I tried this in bitwig,mixcraft and reaper and inverting the phase on one track didn't do a great deal. it slightly lowered the volume and you could hear the phasing when in but no where near the amount you was showing and has no practical use like that except for maybe making a flanger effect. it does work if I do it as 2 audio files rather than midi. it will pretty much null then but with Midi doesn't work for me. maybe cubase calculates the sample rates of VSTi's better than other DAW's

  • @DOUGLASaraujosoares
    @DOUGLASaraujosoares 3 місяці тому +1

    A lot of work for a result that is not even that great. There is most viable ways, but thanks for the tutorial

    • @demishellen
      @demishellen  3 місяці тому +1

      Sounds the same as a side chain or volume shaper though 😎 Appreciate your comment 🙂

    • @DOUGLASaraujosoares
      @DOUGLASaraujosoares 3 місяці тому +1

      @@demishellen My pleasure, I'm enjoy a lot your trance melodies tutorial e sound design tutorials by the way

    • @demishellen
      @demishellen  3 місяці тому +1

      @@DOUGLASaraujosoares I appreciate that very much. Definitely more on that front to come

  • @C-MAG-Music
    @C-MAG-Music 3 місяці тому +1

    Completely pointless. It's like someone doing a landscape painting but with their feet. Aye, very good mate but just use your hand and brush like a normal person and get on with it FFS.

    • @demishellen
      @demishellen  3 місяці тому +1

      I was never expecting anyone to take on this idea but I cannot be totally pointless when setting up a side chain with a compressor also takes just as many steps. But in a world of volume shapers this can e done instantly so I see both sides 😎