GNU | Ramaphosa pens scathing letter to Steenhuisen
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- ANC President Cyril Ramaphosa has penned a scathing letter to DA Leader John Steenhuisen accusing him of shifting goalposts in negotiations over cabinet positions. In letter seen by the SABC, Ramaphosa says he informed Steenhusinen that they found the letter from DA Federal Chairperson Helen Zille offensive, condescending, and inconsistent with the Constitution.
The DA was demanding 11 ministers and deputy and wanting to fire Director Generals in those portfolios. Ramaphosa in the letter further says the DA has been disruptive and uncooperative in the negotiations unlike other parties.
Ramaphosa says he believe the DA has jeopardized the foundation of setting up a Government of National Unity by moving the goalposts in a letter of 24 June 2024 written by John Steenhusen to him. The ANC President says he is truly taken aback by how the DA now want two more portfolios to bring their portfolios to 8.
The President further says the latest proposals by the DA do not, align with the principles adopted and encapsulated in the Statement of Intent. Ramaphosa further alludes that DA proposals that have been submitted undermines the process they had committed to the following - open, grounded, consistent, constitutionally compliant, engagements, honouring the collective understanding of our goal to create a government that reflects the will of the people.
President Ramaphosa says he intends to conclude all negotiations and consultations this week.
Let's take this further now we are joined by our Politics Reporter Samkele Maseko.
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ANC must share powers, they can’t just expect all parties to join them in the GNU to sit back just agree with all they say. They need to share, that is what people voted for, not for the ANC to govern alone mos…..💁🏾♀️
Numbers are not the same why Sharing
Why not revote
I wonder how bringing in more parties can be translated into not wanting to share power... The rand is a foreign currency in south Africa, we need new markets and a new currency.
Is it not the DA that has made demands? Should the ANC just accept every demand the DA makes?
I thought ANC /DA have a common goal, SA Citizens. But clearly not. Their main drive is fueled by Power
Sure. The ANC does not want the other parties to focus on positions ... because that is what the ANC does best.
You right we the people voted for nothing they could have had their own meetings and leave us alone because we expected them to care about the South Africans but no they rather fight amongs themselves for positions it can go on for months everyone wants to be top but its the same suffer the people of South Africa the world must be laughing at us We still want a mix Parliament so they all can look out for all South Africans let it happen
@@thomasprogli3372 The problem in this instance is not the ANC, it is Helen Zille, DA
@MapEve4 can u do maths? Anc 40% 20 seats.. da 20% 10 seats.. it's seems the anc wants to hold onto more when the number don't support them
@@thomasprogli3372they don't want other parties in positions which will make it hard for them to steal and crook the country again
I think these negotiations must be televised so that we can know and understand who wants what and for what reason. After all, it is the people who voted that must benefit from the appointments.
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They have secrets that they're hiding. That's why it will never be public.
Along with ANC NEC meetings! I honestly don't understand how they think its OK to make decisions that affect 60 million people in secret meetings!
The DA just wants it split based on the number of votes. Else what are they even doing there.
1000% agree
ANC still wants more portfolios for what. They have been controlling these portfolios for years but nothing was achieved. For ANC to give away 10 cabinets to other parties and keep 20 cabinets. That's laughable
It is not about how many positions ANC can offer but rather the strategic positions DA demands. Even though ANC has no Majority , they still hold more seat ad can't be equal to the DA based on power sharing. President has full authority by the constitution to hire his executive but he must do so in consultation with the parties in GNU.
DA only has 20% votes, there are other parties in the GNU. So DA shouldn't also act as if they have majority votes.
@@studylive99its simple. Each party get cabinet position based on their percentage. DA is right to want fairness
I don't believe a word Mr Ramaposa said.
ANC wants business as usual with 40%
The DA wants control with 21%.
What about DA WITH 20 %
@@isaacchipatala1618 20 and 40 so. 1/3 and 2/3 so that means if 30 ministers 10 should be DA
and the DA who won 20% of the vote are behaving as though they won the elections
@@howdiynot GNU includes more than just the ANC & DA but of course, DA wants much much more
All parties must now realize that NOBODY reached the majority. They should work together for the benefit of the residents of RSA. All ministers that was charged with corruption and/or crime, should not be allowed back. Parties agreed to clean RSA from all things not fair and criminal, to benefit all. Therefore, one party cannot dictate appointments of criminals and others trying to do the right thing. This will end badly, as the people of RSA spoke with votes, showing their unhappiness with the previous ruling party, and the way the country was run down. Politicians need to urgently realise that they are only "workers of the people" as per votes of the people of RSA.
I feel there is a missing link here. No one got a mandate. I feel there was need of an umpire to adjudicate the negotiations than allow compititors to quarrel endlessly. Labelling each other wont help the situation
And the circus is back in town 🙌
😂😂😂 Madam Ramaphosa feeling the pressure from Mr Zille
Let me correct you buddy from the start,at this moment he is the presdent off south africa and if it was not for the DA he would have out tonight, so start your storie over buddy
The biggest problem here is that ANC chose the GNU route instead of coalition or minority government because both Ramaphosa and his ANC NEC members don't want to make a clear choice and deal with the consequences of that choise, so they went half-way so that other parties take responsibility for their mismanagement of the country and all other parties take co-responsibility for the looting, corruption, organised crime , destruction of infrastructure etc. This is a Ramaphosa/ANC leadership problem ! Chose either EFF/Mk or DA coalition! You can't have both ways !!!
But DA must also remember they also did not win the elections. What are they thinking about the other parties in the GNU
Exactly fully agree with you
Those parties does not have seats to affect anything hence they are just a nuisance to DA,ANC and IFP
There are 30 portfolios. Why does the DA not deserve 8 of these?
@@thomasprogli3372 there are more than just the DA & ANC in the GNU last I saw so are you saying discard them?
@@thomasprogli3372no one deserves anything, they can go if they not happy with what they getting eff and mk are in line waiting
These people are acting, they will work together, but they can't easily agree, it will be suspicious,because there are rumors that this thing was planned long time ago
This was leaked correspondence. We don't know how real it is firstly. Secondly all of this floating around on TV and social media is harming us, the public... Again. We are nervous as it is. How about the President, for the first time ever, do what is expected and stop keeping us waiting.
DA has 22% support. ANC has 40% support. If we have 30 ministries, surely it should be spread proportionately amongst all parties in the GNU? If so, DA deserves 10 ministries.
Less than ten....6 or 7 at the most
You can only count the parties that make up the GNU to get accurate proportionality which would be 6 ministerial positions for the DA , demanding anything more than that would be arrogance from the side of the DA.
@@incrediblyintelligentman2895 per your logic, DA has 87 out of 287 members in the GNU. That is 30% of the GNU, therefore 9 ministries (30% of 30). ANC has 55.4% of GNU seats, therefore 16 ministries.
I am indeed fascinated by the rand activity, how quickly it goes down as soon as the DA is not happy🤔
And what does that rell you then?
It shows how the rand manipulated by capitalist class
You may not like it but we do need investment in this country.
Ask the 8 million unemployed people in South Africa if they would like job creating investors to come in.
Manipulation at its best.
@@studylive99 Its the world we live in.
Only North Korea doesnt want foreign investment . Even Cuba welcomes it now.
They like a bunch of kids fighting over a sweet....this country is not ready to be a democracy.
It's called negotiations, it's part of democracy 😂
🤣🤣🤣But we are in this position because of Democracy Mos... This is all part of Democracy
The worst democracy in the world..such commitment to keep the poor poorer and rich richer. We are definately not ready for a true democracy
Democracy is overrated.
@@SiyavuyaNgxabazihonestly 😂
The most stressed man in the world is Ramaphosa
I doubt he sleeps at night 😢
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He failed to do the honourable thing by resigning and going to raise buffalo.
I hear that he makes millions rearing buffalo😂😂😂.
If the GNU falls apart Ramaphosa will be gone. Next sitting a motion of no confidence in Ramaphosa will tabled. It will succeed because DA+EFF+MKP+and few ANC Is more than 50%
Ramavoetsek. It's only right that da get VP position and all those other rubbish are canned. They don't have the acumen to do the job and are just useless breathers.
ANC think they can still have everything they want 😂
Thats what u get giving equal rights with settlers on yr land, whilst in Europe is for Europeans n non Europeans must abide by European laws.
Can partys think about poorest people's.out side there they need servie.not those delay. Process.
40% 20 ministers 20% 10 ministers.. not sure why the anc what to have more..
It's all fake and pretence to calm everyones nerve. Don't be fooled by this.
Greed, corruption led us here 💔💔😊
BS. Stove to.your agreement. You signed off on it. Get on with it.
Mark my words. Julius Malema is just waiting for Ramphosa to come crawling to him. Malema will show Ramaphosa what it means to be violated.
Buying time 😮
It will end up into tears😅😅
Go to he'll DA.
DA getting out control
DA can just take it or leave it. Let them taste their own medicine as they said with minimum wage decrease to the people of South Africa. Your principle of take it or leave it, let it start here.
Ramaphosa is selling us lies, and some of you are buying into these lies. He wants us to say he tried to oppose DA. What was he expecting from this GNU nonsense.
The Democratic Alliance is unlikely to abandon the Government of National Unity (GNU) because they would face significant losses if they did so. The DA is also concerned that the uMkhonto Wesizwe Party and the Economic Freedom Fighters might join forces to become the official opposition, which would strengthen the voices of the progressive parties Therefore, remaining part of the GNU is strategically important for the DA to maintain their political influence and avoid diminishing their standing.
The truth hurts..
What about other parties offers
Ramaphosa must just step down period!! 👇😔🙅♂️
DA is a problem very problematic, you can tell John will want to be the president eventually prior to the end of Ramaphosa's tenure.
Wasn't that clear since last year when they started talking about being open with a coalition with the ANC.
It's not problematic it's fact
DA needs to get rid of Helen, she's unwanted by the people.
She is bright. She's fighting to take the portfolios that are currently being exploited by ANC to line back pockets
Lets go to vote 😂😂😂😂😂
Babethi benzani beya kubelungu bayabakhombisa now ukuba ibona abaphethe here not anc
Here we go again Mr “I am shocked”. What did he expect? Are we supposed to applaud him?
About time he spoke up. Either way the anc can still rule as a minority so it mind numbing how the DA demands. Should be happy with having some teeth in govt. But they trying to rule when they have not gained any more supporters than last elections. PA should get more cabinet posts. Da can get a couple DG posts.
Can partys stop playing like shool children fighting for a sweets.they adult think about poorest people's.out side there.people waiting for service.
DA played ANC and IFP in KWAZULU NATAL to despise the MK PARTY
True, if the DA walks, the KZN arrangement falls apart. This was orchestrated.
So who stands to benefit if the KZN arrangement falls apart ?🤔…
DA does not want to the life of a black person.
Dont allow the DA acess to the steering wheel, just dont Cyril, let this GNU rather collapse but dont give in to these nonsensical demands
The DA should not focus on positions ... meanwhile the ANC is only focusing on positions because they need to feed their corrupt comrades.
What do you think will happen if the DA is in control?
Why will ANC want a lot of ministries because they had already failed
Look around you or ather listen to our brothers and sisters outside our country , they wish that they had the privileges we have, open your eyes. All the parties are corrupt.
@@SamkeloJack❤
The fact that the ANC actually believed that they could work with DA was foolish
So DA is Mkhonto Wesizwe 😂😂😂
We are all being played. Claim public perspective .
Zuma is a genius,he knew it
Wow!
Whaaaaa😂😂😂 it sounds like a traditional marriage 😂😂😂
Hands up if u think sabc is a non bias tv channel ..lol.....captured years ago by the anc
But everything was ok for him to be president 😂
Wake up and smell the roses Rhamapoa
Ya what like that 😮
can we please have guests that arent biased???? i thought the SABC was fair and unbiased.
What did he expect???
Well, I hope they can make it work. Trying to make each other look bad in a goverment of national unity is not very united.
😂 The ANC still views itself as the rulling party they dammed if they do and damned if they dont. Only the fools think that negotiations will be easier with the MK and EFF it will only be easier with MK & EFF if the ANC gives them positions ni different than the DA.
DA must leave this government and remain as opposition, let Ramaphosa stay with MK😂. ANC is just there on MERCIES.
Lies
Weeee umsina ndozele lo,,,,hay aluqalwe phantsi loluvoto sibone ukuthi kuzobanjani ayikho le.
DA must not opt for divorce rather play dirty politics .Cyril is playing with fire , this might not end well 😂 eye for an eye will be best solution 🤞🏾
I see the lord of the media misses Thulasizwe Simelane
I'm loving Ramaphoza right now! He's giving us a sign lol, here's your Dear John letter😅
Was the paper in blue?
Anc will only be left with carpet in that parliament 😂😂😂😂
Is better to separate
Yeah he wants the not vocal parties so that he can pull them by the nose and still have his way like when anc was an outright majority.
ASHA AMADAMU ANAMANZI
😂 The ANC tought that the DA will prop up the ANC with minimal portfolios. The ANC is more foolish than we thought.
The ANC can't just have what they want. We all know what happened with when the ANC was in charge of the trade and industry. Its not just business as usual, there must be changes.
Ramaphosa and his ANC chose to govern with DA , Ramaphosa went on to make DA its number 1 party of choice . Today Ramaphosa is whinging l say finish what you started south africa want to see results not complaints
You are wrong. Other parties were invited, they chose to join or not join. So, don't lie.
Anc member hai
😂😂😂😂You are deluded, they went to all parties.
@@studylive99Both made a choice
DA didn't understand that you could not rush to go to bed with ANC without prayer and wish to see them repent for what you have been criticized. ANC will dump the DA on the highway 🛣 R300.
So the ANC should just bend to the DA's demands?
Da has a bad mentality of superiority.
Anyone notice how the DA is being attacked every 5 min ..the guests they bring on ..all anti DA ...Something stinks .
The DA has been attacked, even before the elections. The mind boggles!!
Sabc has long been the ANC's propaganda wing.
Exactly what I'm thinking
When it other parties you are quiet when it DA You defend the hypocrisy! DA and ANC should not have teamed up
I voted for the DA but one can tell that it's acting like a big mosquito in the GNU. it's simply clear that the DA is using white arrogance.
ANC had political power for 30 years, unfortunately, they didn't know how to use it and lost that power....
DA wants power and they know very well what to do with it. This is just the beginning. And I like what DA is doing, holding ANC by the balls...
He's clearly very concerned about those all important feeding troughs.
The DA knows that if ANC cadres are still in the ministries that they run, they will not be able to improve service delivery. Therefore they want the option to select their own staff based on merit so that they are able to deliver. If you keep the ANC in the ranks. Nothing will change that is what the ANC wants.
😂 I guess u haven't considerd the illegal actions they want to be made legal 😂😂😂 ya white people hot wind
Then DA should leave the GNU, EFF will gladly replace.
Because in your head you think white people govern better than black people, and that black people always need oversight from white people.
But to demand 11 portfolios, as if the DA gained majority? That's irrational and if you can't see that no one can help you.
I support Da, the anc had no worked instead the poor keep getting poorer and service delivery goes to their pockets and too much crime
I DONT LIKE DA but sir cyril u are on the wrong u didnt win the peoples votes and this is not th ANC people know its sad to see the nxt 5 yrs
Please guys you have to be united for now please black people's organisation's, you can't risk with us we put our trust on you .DA and VF they will take us back to Faro .😮😮
True DA AND VF UIT GAAN TOE
I really hate are politicians what was the point of voting any way. We are suffering but we voted I will never bother my self with voting
He must tell us what he agreed with the DA in their bilateral and stop fooling us
You can ask your DA for those answers.
@@Dude-m4z I'm a DA but the truth must be told. Ramaphosa negotiated with DA alone and signed an agreement. Then other parties we invited. Even Holomisa had confirmed that they have not seen that agreement . But they are in GNU for the county to go forward and for that they must also be compensated. Ukuthi awuboni ukuthi uRamaphosa usebkingeni nge deal yakhe ne DA
@@Charlescharles-m1y That's why it is called negotiations, it's not final. The possible outcomes can only be two: Yes or No. DA must accept or decline the final offer, the country will continue just fine with or without them. ANC is not desperate in this equation, DA leverage is very weak. The agreement signed outside GNU is not constitutional and won't hold in court.
True
@@Charlescharles-m1yLies, PA President Gayton McKenzie said that the political parties who joined the GNU signed contracts in agreement to the terms and conditions of their coalition, negotiations are still taking place. Stop spreading unnecessary propaganda.
if DA leaves and EFF comes in, we will be paying R50 for a loaf of bread
Make it make sense
You think like backwards boer!
Stop with these scare tactics that white people keep feeding you
Economy will collapse due to radical polices such as land expropriation without compensation (housing market will vacuum, leading to a nation wide economic domino effect.
Essentially, the entire private industry will massively lose faith in stability because theyd be afraid to even buy a shop without a risk of it being stolen from them @@ntando1692
U crazy
ANC must let the DA go. They should not have coalition with DA in the first place. The DA plan is to rule south Africa again . and then apartheid is back again.
Said who? Sanctions will be imposed if they ever returned apartheid which l very much doubt
ANC=Another National Crisis 😂😂😂😂
This is the reason why the White Domkop DA must go back to the Oposition Benches !!!
ANC: "The coalition partners should not focus on positions"
... meanwhile the ANC is only focusion on positions.
Fact is the ANC already has the most important positions: The presedency and vice presedency.
The ANC has failed the black poor for 30 years.
It's DA that's purely focused on positions.
Deputy speaker with 20 and mostly coming the western cape is money for jam.
😂😂 they are just stage acting to fool us into thinking Ramaphosa has a choice, he doesn't, he must abide by the instructions of his masters, the DA's handlers. Zille has him by the balls
This marriage is not going to last. 🙈
Very funny tjoo ❤❤❤
Facts
And it hasn't even been 6 months yet 😳
IFP and UDM and other dummies are just watching ? Where they at ? national party is busy trying to get what it use to have , the others are drunk
Let DA go with peace
Understand, if they walk, so does the ANC. Without the DA, the ANC does not have the presidency. That is the FACT
Bas John and tannie really thinks they're in charge😂😂💔
ANC partner DA helped voting Ramaposa in as new President with a overwhelming majority, now what? been used and now is going to be abused 😂
Just like every single voter who has supported them for the past 30 years. They don't care about us - they care about money and power - Pixley ka Seme must be rolling in his grave :(
ANC is strategic 😂😂😂 they win the government DA played foolish 🤣🤣🤣🤣
The DA had to choose a lesser evil the floor was open for nominations that was the chance for the DA to grab the presidency
Ramaphosa still thinks the ANC has all the power 😂
With 40%?
Yes they do they are the majority National what do you mean about 20% they are the driver of this train no matter we like it or not it is what it is now
@@SidumoNgetu Correct. They already have the most important position: The presedency. Now they need to give away more of the back seats ... but we all know that it is a big problem because how are they going to feed all their corrupt comrades.
and the DA who only got 20% are behaving as though they won the elections and can demand whatever they want forgetting that there are other parties involved in the GNU as well but we know about selfishness from the colonialists who still think they rule the world
40% majority rule, and yes they still have the power .
Let the DA walk away. South Africa doesn't need or want apartheid racists anywhere near political power until the economic imbalance in South Africa is redressed.
Thumamina spokesman the lord of propaganda has spoken.
Ramaphosa got 40% ajd has no right to be going around deciding which party gets how many and which posts. Period!
He is now president he can now manipulate the joysticks of power. DA was used
he is the president, so he does.
Anc has no power to dictate how the country be run
They do actually, they have a lot of power and powerful alies who can jump into coalition with them anytime should the DA continue to act like spoilt brats.
A DA e fokofe.
@@Dude-m4z Yes your right, seems we have another African dictatorship.
So does the the racist DA
Then why the negotiations are not going smooth
ANC must remember they not the power house any longer
We have had 30 years of thieving , incompetence and BS. Enuf is enuf
Zaqala zakhala, it will end in tears!!!
Zikhala ngempela!!
Azikhale!!!
Hahahah😂 he he heeeee, Ay!😅
Azikhale
They chose this marriage. Why are they complaining?😅