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The Badab War is the name given to one of the most serious rebellions in recent Imperial history. While the conflict is named for a planet (or system of the same name), the war actually took place throughout the several sectors of Imperial space known as the Maelstrom Zone. The war saw four entire Space Marine Chapters secede and rebel against the Imperium.
The Badab War is notable for several reasons; the leader of the rebellious forces, Lufgt Huron, would survive the end of the war and return to trouble Imperial space once more as the Chaos-alligned warlord known as Huron Blackheart, while the conflict itself involved a significant number of warring Space Marine Chapters as the primary participants. - Розваги
Imperium: "Pay Taxes."
Lufgt Huron: "I will not. What are you going to do about it?"
5 Billion dead, large number of Astartes Chapters ruined and entire sector turned into war torned space.
Lufgt Huron: "Well that escalated quickly."
"Sometimes a reasonable man must do unreasonable things"
That really got out of hand fast!
@@zekanner There is nothing unreasonable about not paying taxes. Taxes suck and you can't prove otherwise.
War torn*
more like
Lufgt Huron: "I did pay my taxes now can you use that money to fix our infrastructure?"
Imperium: "Hahaha...nah."
Lufgt Huron: "Fuck it, we'll do it live!"
Lufgt Huron: I DON'T CARE WHO THE IRS SENDS, I'M NOT PAYING TAXES!
Lamenters: ...are.....are we the bad guys?
For those we cherish, we die in glory.
Imperium proceeds to send the Minotaurs and Carcharodons.
@LordRageKage didn't the carcharodons show up out of nowhere tho? Cuz Tyberos needed to prove he was loyalist and let a psyker probe his mind
@@hollowxperia5413yah
The space sharks are prowling around in the edge of the galaxy. Ancient as space marines come, adorned with fixed and reforged ancient armor from heracy era.
Tbh my head cannon theory is that they are the 2nd or 11fh leagon.
100% they are the Forgotten.
So much time passed and they were not witnessed by a primarch or custodian presence to know about them.
@@The_Rage_KageMinotaurs: Boy, there sure are a LOT of traitors around here!
Lamentors: Hold on, we were told that..(Gets curb stomped relentlessly)
As it says on page 209 in the eighth volume of the book of Lorgar: "Tax evasion is pretty cool".
It's a crime Vergil
It's an obligation
yk maybe lorgar was onto something
I will never pay. (Does this mean Hell's Iris is effectively the state of Florida for comparison?)
The secret fifth Chaos God is the god of tax fraud.
Badab War: A conflict that escaled badly without the influence of Chaos nor Xeno species.
Just the Imperium being the Imperium.
I wish more such stories existed honestly. Don't get me wrong, a decent conspiracy involving xenos/chaos is fun, but having these stories in the mix sells the total fascist brutality of the imperium.
@@alaskarii007I agree with you, specially because administrating a galaxy wide empire should be a very hard task.
The administratum cares not from where the taxes flow, only that they flow
That would require prying their writers away from writing the Horus heresy/stories about primarchs.
And that's too much to ask.
The war for Badab. When the Siege of Vraks was not long enough and only kindergarten compared to that shitshow
Just a bit of trivia, The Badab War and Huron Blackheart have been part of 40k lore longer than Chaos has.
By a few months. WD 101, and the RoC Slaves to Darkness both came out in 1988, 1 year after 40k Rogue Trader.
@@DirtHermitwinning is winning
Very interesting to know!
oh boy, the lamenters finally make some good friends who care about them. Things are finally looking up for the better!
"What could possibly go wrong?"
@@Dracobytea lot 🐃
@@Dracobyte Insert that Undertaker meme, only with a Lamenter as Styles and Asterion Moloc as the Undertaker.
@@TheLordofMetroids I know fighting against hopeless odds is kind of their thing but looking at the guys in my chapter and then looking at Moloc and Tyberos who are against me, I would probably be convinced to call it there and just launch my penitence crusade now.
The sad part is up that point the Lamenters had actively avoided killing any Imperium forces, since they were still solidly believing this was just a tax dispute.
In every engagement they out maneuvered the enemy so that any attack was deemed too risky and thus no actual combat happened...
Until the Minotaurs showed up
I love that fact that reason lamenters were ones who managed to destroy hallowed heart is that they were more resilient to its malign influence. Even more so than other warders
and the inquisition insulted them for taking so long to destroy it lol.
"Oh it kills people with warp spawned super-depression? Well sign us up that sounds like a job for us!"
It's believed that the Astral Claws were an Ultramarine successor chapter.
Also: In the distance a single fin is seen breaching the surface and everyone ignores the ominous "Dun-dun" music.
Makes sense!
4/4 string ostinato in d minor
Huron: I tried it your way. Now we do it my way.
Administratum: Mister! When we are done with this Massive Xenos Invasion, we are going to have a serious talk! ... go to your room!
Huron: No.
Administratum: Wait until your father gets home!
Huron: MY FATHER IS DEAD!!
Hahahhahaha!
Dk had a Idiot savant moment at the beginning. He probably leveled up.
Tzeench ran up and whispered the answer to him. Just to fuck with bricky. Just. As. Planned.
He has improved since the earlier episodes.
"Even a broken clock is right twice a day". Jokes aside I do love how much he's grown since the start of podcast.
It's also important to note that "tithes" in this case also include gene-seed, so all of those tithes not being paid, directly correlate to more marines being produced by the Astral Claws. By the time first shots had been fired the Astral Claws were significantly larger than a normal chapter.
Also, little side story about the lead-up to the Badab war is that while all of this was brewing, an Astral Claws successor chapter known as the Tiger Claws that was considered a dead chapter had reemerged as a strike cruiser of them had reappeared after being stuck in the warp for around 1000 years (though to them it was much shorter). Seeing as they were the last of their chapter, the Tiger Claws sent an envoy to Terra to ask for the release of their chapter's gene-seed to repopulate the legion. This envoy, the most senior officer still alive amongst the Tiger Claws, subsequently disappeared after delivering the request and the case was thus dismissed by Terra. Fearing that this was a not-so-subtle way of trying to make the chapter's death stick, the Astral Claws would hide the remaining Tiger Claws amongst their ranks, giving them new names. Shortly thereafter, Huron would stop paying tithes.
Weren’t there still Tiger Claws around after that tho? I could swear that there were some present alongside the Iron Warriors when Honsou invaded Ultramar
@@jordinagel1184 Correct, but I think those marines had been captured earlier on or were serving in Deathwatch at the time
the tiger claws HAD actually turned to chaos and subtly turned them from within...which wouldnt be that hard considering the dicking the claws were getting from the imperium and the inquisition every step of the way.
Thank you for the info dump!
Huron: “I’m *NOT* paying my taxes!”
Lamenters: “it’s all down hill from here… Again.”
*Badab War happens*
Tyberos: “I’m going for a walk…”
Astarion Molac: *deploys at full chapter strength* “Waz good, brothaz?!”
Its unknown whose geneseed the Astral Claws have, but given how Huron acted, Ultramarine seems pretty likely to me.
Idk, if he was Ultramarines he probably would have fricken loved paying taxes
"The only reward for loyality is betrayal" sound like spin on Lion"loyality is It own reward" quote do Astral Claws could had himerick Ultramarines/Dark Angeles just like Space Shark can be Nightlords and Ravenguards mix.
At list that's theory I heard and belive in.
Just looking at the Lex to see if they're cursed founding and it seems like they were 10th founding (11 before Lamenters, Fire Hawks etc...) and speculated to be Ultramarine or Dark Angel successors (they have really stable geneseed which is part of why there's a ton on them at the onset of the war). Considering their later colour scheme I think Blood Angels would have been an interesting progenitor but it seems unlikely. If they were already practicing hybridisation with traitor geneseed by the 10th founding I would think there might be some Iron Warriors thrown in there considering a certain primarch had an Iron Circle while Huron has an iron ring.
I'm actually in the small camp of White Scars successor believers tbh.
1. They have special bike rules.
2. Huron and the Red Corsairs have been harrying the White Scars on Chogoris.
3. White Scars were originally called Star Hunters before Jagatai took control. Astral (star) Claw (hunter)
@@RatchildUK well shit. That can't be good.
Taking a moment to pour one out for the Lamenters.
They deserve the whole damn bottle.
You mean "another one for the Lamenters".
Bit of an ackshually here: the encounter with the space hulk and the following berating of the lamenters happened BEFORE the Charnal Guard were removed with the chapter master telling the inquisitor to sod off. This entire conflict can all be traced back to an inquisitor being petty and calling upon some favors that end up having the Astral Claws’ plans rejected in the middle of them explaining them multiple times
Thanks for the info!
Inquisitors being petty and causing massive problems? Say it aint so!? *sweeping the Space Wolves and Celestial Lions under the rug*
@@VallornDeathblade didnt space wolfwes spanke niquisition new one and guilliman avenge the celestial lions by putting inquisition extremely tight leash
thanks
As Bobby G said to Dante: "A line must be drawn between good and what is evil, got if the Great Enemy comes with offers of power to a wretch, what reason does he have to refuse hell if he dwells in it already?"
The issue is that Bricky knows about Monster Musume to the point of recognising characters from the show.
*Loads Bolter with religious intent*
One of my favorite stories from 40k is the Lamenters near-solo fight against the Unhallowed Heart. So many times I read stories about Space Marines where they are riding in an APC to attack a fort or charging across trenches and it just feels like a waste of super humans/something the guard could handle. But riding boarding torpedos onto a daemon infested hulk the size of a moon that has a kilometers wide radius of psykic paranoia that makes mortal men kill themselves with the intention of overloading plasma reactors to try and destabilized the mass is... not something the Guard could handle. It's demigod over the top warfare at its finest.
“When the tax man comes to your door, your numbers either add up, or you will be subtracted from the equation.” -an Accountant
A threatening quote indeed.
A great and mighty accountant?
There's a book I read a while ago called "A Libertarian walks into a bear", which tells the story of how libertarians took over a town in New Hampshire and how their tax and government free "utopia" was shattered by bears.
This is similar, only with Astartes instead of bears and a few billion more dead.
There's also a delicious poetic irony in bears having no respect for capital and the free market.
@@ecyor0or anything else that's a human construct really. See the idiots that try and feed bears as another example.
@SmileyBMM I think he's trying to make reference to bear markets in regard to stock exchanges.
@@easonyeung2779 oh, duh. Lol.
@@easonyeung2779 In the book they were literal bears. It's a very fun read.
Oh boy, the Lamenters!
I sure hope nothing bad happens to them in this civil war!
Nothing could go wrong!
Glory to the Lamenters, they deserve it.
Yeah!
It's adorable how DK thinks the Firehawks are the big showcase,little does he know they're only a prelude to the Red Wake. Lol
Don't forget each of the three plans were made basically from the ground up to be better than the last, and the meetings due to him queuing took place over the course of like 120 years or so
Oh yeah, the story of the guy who should be the *actual* Warmaster of Chaos.
Nah, abbadon its a great chatacter
Why do you think so? No shame, just asking.
@@Dracobyte i really like his heresy ark, his relationship with draknyen and how he wants to succeed where his father failed. To me abbadon feels like one of the few characters in 40k that know what they truly want and will sacrifice everything they have to do so
@@Dracobyte Huron managed to accomplish in a few decades what Abaddon could not in ten millennia, he built a powerful Chaos Empire, and earned the respect of all Chaos Space Marines, Abaddon included, despite not even being a veteran of the Heresy.
He lead numerous successful attacks on the Imperium, dealing big damage, in a fraction of the time it requires Abaddon to prepare a single Black Crusade.
He's much better tactician, and a better ruler since he has the experience from being the Tyrant Of Badab.
He's just much more competent, making him a better fit for Warmaster.
@@THExRISERyou should really read better into it, lots of time abbadon has proved himself as an incredible tactician and more of a lead from the front figure. I feel like you got this info from second hands (like major kill,but no shame in it). Trust me, abbadon is the best suited for the job
Ah, the Badab War. When GW wrote interesting stories about the Imperium, and when they released fun campaign books for players, before Competitive became the only way to play the game.
When was the Badab War material released?
@@Dracobyte The Badab War was mentioned first in Rogue Trader iirc, but it wasn’t developed until Forge World released Imperial Armour Volumes 9+10, back in 2010.
@@PanPaladin thank you for answering!
Only way to play in tournaments or in an official setting like at a GW shop, any other time you can play however you want.
I guess Crusade doesn't exist
Imperium
Pros: Untold billions.
Cons: Administration.
As an American, I salute Lufgt Huron. He did nothing wrong...
Until he did everything wrong and everything went to shit.
Just like Magnus
Huron is the most American figure in 40k, the man just refused to pay his taxes and eall hell broke loose.
Also, limit breaker DK actually nailing the quote is kinda impressive.
I mean he declared independence. With the articels of just session. Because a trading noble wanted him to pay more taxes. So he blew up a boat.....
He is american wtf
That’s actually a good point. Most great tears in reality that don’t disappear after some plot reasons are usually because something Terrible Happened.
Makes me want to imagine that the Maelstrom had a minor chaos entity/god manifested there? Maybe Be’lakor or Vashtorr?
Could also have been a war in heaven related thing. Some Old One weapon ripping a massive hole to the warp or the like.
Oh no!
Ah yea, good ol' Huron "Abadon, but competent" Blackheart's war against taxes
Man Huron just wanted the resources to fully CLEAR OUT the Malestrom, (something he has already proven to be possible with the Astral Claws and Malestrom Wardens effectively pushing into the Malestrom) so that the Malestrom would be safe from constant threat and the Imperium wouldn’t have to station 4/3 whole chapters there full time any more. Effectively increasing Imperium productivity and resources while freeing up more astarties to fight the good fight somewhere more important.
The entire situation is *entirely* the fault of the Imperium’s IRS
If by "clear out" you mean "launch a crusade into the heart of a warp rift" then sure.
The oldest tale from Terra: Your employee lives their job and do anything for the company just to be mined until he gave up by his superiors that see their effort as just what they are suppose to do.
"I know thar we didnt approve your promotion, and your raise, and your vacatuons, and your amazing project, but just leaving the company is really not thinking about your colleagues, buddy😢"
Can someone translate this to english for me
“I don’t care who The Imperium sends, I am not paying taxes!” Luffy Huron
They had enough resources to self sabotage but DEFINITELY NOT ENOUGH to lend a helping hand when needed. God i love warhammer (I am aware the imperium is stretched thin from fighting everything in the galaxy but i love how everything played out)
On tonight's episode of the Ridiculous Tour:
Bricky clones himself too many times and combines with all of them to form THE WALL.
DK keeps singing about how each major character in this episode is a Badab mamajama.
And Shy performs the entirety of the freebird solo on a harpsichord!
All this and more to come after the break!
Nice summary!
Wait what
@@electricangel4488 This type of comment are an internal joke: it is a false summary of the podcast episode, which each members are described doing something ridiculous that may or may not have any relation with the topic talked on the current episode.
@@Dracobyte Further; I'm the second person doing this, the first one was Ridiculous Gear, thus in the way that Top Gear was followed by the Grand Tour, when the first guy stopped. I started Ridiculous Tour; these posts mirror the intros of Top Gear episodes.
Also I trend far more towards the absurd.
@@SymbioteMullet Good luck on your comments, I hope they get many likes.
Lugft Huron was a model space marine, who became a chaos space marine model.
Some would say that is an improvement!
Tonight on Ridiculous Gear! Bricky signs up with the true Warmaster of Chaos, DK gets the boarding party treatment from the entire Minotaurs Chapter, and Shy starts an Imperial Civil War over purposefully ignoring Luft Huron’s emails.
Hey! It's ridiculous gear again!
"The Unhallowed" was an Ark of Omen.
"The Unhallowed Heart" was a Space Hulk that the Lamenters fought and destroyed, just prior to the Badab War.
Close, but not exactly the same.
Because GW reuses previous names CONSTANTLY.
Space Marine Huron: "Stupid corrupt planetary governors never wanting to pay taxes! I'm taking over!" *five minutes later* "That's it! The Imperium doesn't respect our planet I'm not paying taxes!"
It felt a little understated in the video, but Huron had TWO jobs. The first was to extract resources from the region for imperial taxes, but the other was to safeguard the imperium from pirates, xenos, and chaos in the maelstrom. The badab system was like a small cadia. By refusing to send taxes, and instead using those resources to defend the system, Huron was performing his primary objective as a space marine, "Protect the Empire."
It'd be insane to send a fleet in with a scorched earth policy to shut down this "rebellion", wouldn't it? After all, all you'd do by fighting Huron at this point is ruining all the resources you were fighting for in the first place, as well as opening up another costly front in the imperium's many wars. It'd be a lose lose situation. Just. Like. Vraks.
I like this in ways I can't describe seeing someone in 40k do something productive is amazing and refreshing. Its sad this will end in heresy.
"i aint payin no taxes"- Chapter master of the astral claws
Badab war? This is going to be good! Multiple videos on this amazing topic! YES LETS GO!!
I am guesdkng this will be covered on 3 or 4 episodes.
I think if I had the entirety of a planet available to me in almost any way I could desire, I would have a hard time not abusing my position.
Just as its true that leaving a monkey on a typewriter for eternity will eventually produce shakespear, when confronted with endless warhammer lore DK will eventually guess the topic correctly.
"I don't care who the IRS sends, I'm not paying my taxes"
Monster Musume's Arachnee only wants to tie you up. None of that nightmare bs.
I honestly think that sometimes Badab is more interesting then the Heresy.
Many people do!
The instigator has a more interesting motivation than "dad went home and didnt tell me what he's doing" and "Horus got shanked with a knife and now he's evil."
@@necromater6656 Yus, better birth but the climax of the Heresy where primarchs the emperor and the sigilite horus and the fall of imperial supremacy is more stunning to the senses imo. I hate how Abby just gets nervous while his dad is in STASIS AND WILL NOT DIE to blood loss and decides he must ask gods he does not believe exist for help rather than the Emperor.
Confirmed: DK is now a Psyker. Sacrafice him to the emporer.
Having done the math on it 1 Psyker lasts the Emperor 1 minute 26.4 seconds
Or Saction him.
Lets gooooo badab war! Ive got 2k points of carcharodons and I just painted an intercession killteam of lamenters for my buddy!
More lamenters content this shall sustain me for a season
Bricky: how did you know
DK: it came to me in a vision
Heresy!
The Lamenters are the only Astartes who are truly inheritors to the Emperors design. Change my mind.
Lorgar.
Can't believe we're getting Badab! Love it! I used to play Huron' boys back in college, so its got a special place in my heart.
The Astral Claws or the still existant Red Corsairs?
@@AAhmou Corsairs.
Oh boy! More lore with a couple of awesome nerds!
Glad to see you here! I like your FF 14 lore videos.
@@Dracobyte Thank you! The only thing better than making lore videos. Is enjoy other people's videos while I make my videos! haha
@@SynodicScribe that is the content creator way!
Nice to see you here!
My favorite war and lore. I plan on painting a bunch of Astral Claws up one day
This was one of the first 40k stories I read, super excited for next week!
Guy Haley´s Shadowsword Book is another good example how bad things can get if you dont wanna pay your Taxes
Imagine the vox trashtalk between the Fire Hawks (who are perpetually itching for a fight) and the Mantis Warriors (a chapter known to not take too kindly to people trying to boss them around) trying to bully their way through or get them go away respectively before it actually came to blows.
Ah Lufgt Huron the Killdozer of The 41st Millennium
Except Marvin Heemeyer utilized the Lamenters approach and went out of his way to not hurt his fellow citizens
@@firemaneminiatures1337He attacked employees at the neighboring concrete plant, the town hall while it was hosting children's story hour, and a propane storage yard next to an old folks home. That's hardly trying to avoid civilian casualties.
@@Dovorans then try to find a list of deaths in his run through the town. You can't. Because he knew what he was doing and went out of his way to not hot anybody. Closest it got to a casualty was one guy that tried to climb on top of the shell
@@firemaneminiatures1337 Thankfully nobody died because the police were able to use the reverse 911 system to evacuate most of the town. I can never understand how people stan a guy who went on a rampage because he was angry the city stopped him from dumping raw sewage into an irrigation ditch.
5:42 Just want to throw a shoutout to this fan-art I love it so much
Shadowsword (I think thats the right book) goes into a governors family accidently inviting in some chaos, good book worth a read
why do i have a feeling Bricky was watching isyander and koda's streams before making this episode?
It’s worth noting that the word “tyrant” has not always had a strictly negative connotation. Ancient Greeks and Romans were subjugated by many tyrants, here meaning anyone who takes power by force or outside of legal precedent, and some were either revered by the people or at least considered a better alternative to the regime they overthrew.
Are y'all ever gonna do that book club episode or...
Huron is warhammer’s killdozer story
Watching this while my puppy is eeping on top of me
Monster Museme Spider Lady is a Dominatrix and she will tie people up for some "fun" time.
Guys I am so happy you finally did this because the badab war is one of my favourites topics in 40k! Awesome series
DK getting the episode topic right is like the one time Jason figured it out in The Good Place :P.
I thought the opening when DK was asked to guess was a skit.😂
If the topic guess is anything to go by, DK’s latent psychic potential is starting to manifest
the best part of my workday now is when you guys release a new video while I'm here my staff love yall and it's funny when they ask me if there is a new episode out yet
Shocked DK didn't try to call it the "Bad Dab" War like he did in the Lamenters episode
Lugft Huron has one of the coolest terminator models, super stoked I snagged one before FW took it out of production a few years ago. 17-year old me with the Badab books would be greatly pleased lmao
I hope they mention the tyrant’s guard in the next episode. Huron’s personal guardsmen equivalent force that was astarte trained with his astartes holding the command positions in it for peak performance
Bricky misspoke and said the qu and had me shook for a second
If the Imperium just bothered not to cut costs, this would ironically have costed waaaayy less than it did. ^^
Can you guys do an episode on the solar auxillia so i can understand how they can go toe to toe with space marines in legion imperialis epic and be their own faction 😂
Alternate title: Lufgt Huron and the Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Day.
Guilliman - "dUmb BLuE BoOk sPlItS tHe cHaPTers uP"
- "Told you assholes"
Ah Hueron, when you may be right but in the attempt to prove it you screw everything up
The administratum cares not from whom the taxes flow, only that they flow
" I will build a beautiful ring of steel, and Cartago will pay for it"
-Chapter master of the Astral claws: Luft Huron.
I was gifted this comment by another on the ai presidents playing 40k channel
I knew this story before even the internet was a thing, but it's just so much more cooler hearing from Adeptus Ridiculous. 😂❤👍
The start of an another awesome series
If I remember correctly the Unhallowed Heart had no daemons accompanying it. The only thing it had was some form of psychic presence strong enough to drive people insane, suicidal, or cause them to have a brain hemorrhage.
Yippie art
(Also bricky, dk and shys models look so good)
Before watching this video, I learned about the War for Badab from Arch's very long series. I would wacth it everytime I eat dinner.
Loving the new poster...they are always usually so well done...both the thicc dumpies and the more srs stuff. Also I'm interested in your presentational take for Badab...listened to another UA-camr years ago make a video based on this before my hearing loss which isn't really relevant but it's getting worse anyways I barely understand you guys compared to like 5 months ago but I will continue listening for as long as I am able to cause I love your content.
Oh I REALLY hope they do more of the Eisenhorn books. They're genuinely some of my favourite books in the entire setting.
I love this place. Shy shows a picture of Quelaag, DK swoons and loves it, Bricky hates it.
If I am not mistaken Arbitor Ian make a video about the Badab War and it is pretty amazing!
Seconding the Arbitor Ian video for folks who want the full context of how the war developed/want to fill in the gaps after they finish the Adeptus Ridiculous treatment. He'll do ya right.
Yes it is!
"how'd he guess the topic was the Badab War?"
Bricky he's been thinking the Badab War's been coming up for the last couple months. Even a broken clock's right twice a day.
21:30 Herman von Strab of Armageddon Mammon from Vraks, and Vandire definitely come to mind.
Tax evasion is a crime, Huron!
Its an obligation!
The Badab War is my favorite. Part of what inspired my homebrew chapter
You guys should take this year's posters and make them into a calendar
I think that's what the plan is
Finally an episode on the best chaos character