Friendly Feuds: Experimental Physicists vs. Theoretical Physicists

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  • Опубліковано 27 сер 2024
  • Physicists have historically been divided into one of two camps: theoretical physicists who create mathematical models to explain how energy and matter interact; and experimental physicists who conduct tests on specific physical phenomena using tools like particle accelerators and lasers. Whose approach is best? Liam Fitzpatrick, a Boston University theoretical physicist, and Alex Sushkov, a Boston University experimental physicist, talk about the good-natured rivalry that exists between their respective fields.
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  • @user-ud4lk6jl8z
    @user-ud4lk6jl8z 5 років тому +129

    "When a theorist comes into the lab everything stops working"! Hahaha

  • @maxwellsequation4887
    @maxwellsequation4887 3 роки тому +112

    "I don't know why there are no famous experimentalists"
    Micheal Faraday: "Am I a joke to you?"

    • @aryamanmishra154
      @aryamanmishra154 3 роки тому +1

      Maxwell's equation is more of a theory. He used to be a physicist before the great divide came. It is post-Einstein that the divide became severe.

    • @anoushk
      @anoushk 3 роки тому +2

      Edison too

    • @HalamNS200xMotul
      @HalamNS200xMotul 2 роки тому +3

      Who is Tesla?

    • @pubgplayer1720
      @pubgplayer1720 2 роки тому +7

      @@anoushk Edison was more of an engineer imo.

    • @rammyanimations4699
      @rammyanimations4699 2 роки тому +6

      Nikola Tesla laughs in Spain without the S

  • @incognito7605
    @incognito7605 4 роки тому +91

    Theorists give hypotheses and gives a possible explanations for the unvierse.
    Experimentalists test those hypotheses and determine if they are actually correct or possible.
    Engineers apply and implement the ideas.

    • @maxwellsequation4887
      @maxwellsequation4887 3 роки тому +2

      Engineers suck
      Physicists and mathematicians are driven by curiosity and pure thought. Engineers are driven by money and other stupid ideologies.

    • @Sasukej2004
      @Sasukej2004 2 роки тому +3

      @@maxwellsequation4887 but not all engineers are driven by money, some just really wanna build stuff, make stuff and solve real world problems. Meanwhile physicists are just curious people but they don't do alot tbh

    • @guymakingvideos4565
      @guymakingvideos4565 10 місяців тому +1

      @@Sasukej2004 Just like what I want to do. I'm planning to study computer engineering and theoretical physics.

    • @Danilio.
      @Danilio. 28 днів тому

      ​@@guymakingvideos4565 So, how's it going?

  • @gianlucanotarangelo3098
    @gianlucanotarangelo3098 4 роки тому +85

    I would like to add that describing experimentalists just as those who go out there and see which theory is right (if any) isn't the complete story. The reason beyond developing a new theory in physics is often found in unexplicable experimental results that have contradicted the theories previously established. They not only check theories, but they do discoveries. It's a cirle, not a segment.

    • @zainebhidoussi1498
      @zainebhidoussi1498 4 роки тому

      Yea you're totally right ! ..that makes so much sense

    • @nickxr
      @nickxr 3 роки тому +1

      Humans suffer from too much fragmentation than there actually is.

    • @jordan794
      @jordan794 3 роки тому +1

      yeah, then the theorists take a look at the experimentalists’s results and form theories off those

    • @dariuschong4574
      @dariuschong4574 2 роки тому +1

      Yeah, and that's how quantum mechanics came about. Physicists realize there's a discrepency between the Rayleigh-Jeans law and the experimental data on blackbody radiation at short wavelengths.

  • @stephendaedalus7841
    @stephendaedalus7841 2 роки тому +17

    "I don't know why there are no famous experimentalists"
    The vast majority of Nobel laureates are experimentalists...
    "Maybe we're more modest" is the honest answer lol

  • @DragonFlame135
    @DragonFlame135 Рік тому +7

    I will be a physics major in the fall and I think I might want to become an experimental physicist. I remember learning about the cavendish experiment and the gold foil experiment and realizing that the true knowledge exists in the idea becoming the reality. Theory alone is just belief, and knowledge comes from experiencing the belief. Some of the projects I have had the most fun making have been projects that take a concept and turn it into a physical model. An example is a marx generator where all the parts where homemade out of water. It's an idea I saw on the internet so I don't claim it to be my own, but seeing the idea, and then actually going out to buy the parts and seeing it made was really cool. It was basically breaking down what resistors and capacitors are, and taking that concept, making it more abstract, and using water to create them. Helped me understand how electricity works within those components, and not just trust that they are what they are.

    • @rocklee5231
      @rocklee5231 7 місяців тому

      Theory isn’t belief

  • @jordan794
    @jordan794 3 роки тому +15

    i think there’s more famous theorists because they’re the ones that come up with the ideas that are proven by the experimentalists, and lets be honest, coming up with the theories and showing it to be mathematically consistent is where the credit rightfully lies for being responsible for the technology and such that it can lead to. the experimentalists are extremely important but i think it makes sense why theorists get more credit, and it may even be true that the theorist wouldn’t get famous for their theory without the experimentalist since the theorist’s theory wouldn’t be proven without the experimentalist

    • @jesuschrist1501
      @jesuschrist1501 3 роки тому +2

      everyone is a theorist including engineerist, however not everyone is a engineerist. every time a engineer do some experimentation they observe and use mental thought to calculate and understand the concept at hand, it may not be as rigorous as theorist who just specializes in that, however its a point of acknowledging that everyone is a theorist when going into this, however not everyone is an engineerist, you can sit around your asses all day not doing a lick of experimentation.

  • @Dyslexic-Artist-Theory-on-Time
    @Dyslexic-Artist-Theory-on-Time Місяць тому

    We need to go back to r² and the three-dimensional physics of the Inverse Square Law. The spherical 4πr² geometry is key to this concept, based on Huygens' Principle from 1670, which states: "Every point on a wave front of light has the potential to create a new spherical light wave." Each point on the curvature of the wave front can be considered a potential photon ∆E=hf electron interaction exchanging potential energy into the kinetic Eₖ=½mv² energy of matter in the form of electrons.
    This can be based on E=MC² with the squaring of the speed of light representing a geometrical process forming a square of probability Ψ²
    We experienced this as a continuously emerging probabilistic future 'time' with the spherical 4πr² surface acting as a boundary condition or manifold for the uncertainty ∆x∆pᵪ≥h/4π encountered in daily life.

  • @coconutskins9154
    @coconutskins9154 5 років тому +14

    And that Middle Earth reference...😀😀

  • @jorgemalosti9308
    @jorgemalosti9308 4 роки тому +22

    computational physicist: Am i a joke to you?

    • @rahuladhikari6990
      @rahuladhikari6990 3 роки тому +4

      What do they do?

    • @jorgemalosti9308
      @jorgemalosti9308 3 роки тому +5

      @@rahuladhikari6990 Computational physicist work mostly with simulations, complex systems and numerical analysis that require a computer to do part of the hard work

    • @jorgemalosti9308
      @jorgemalosti9308 3 роки тому

      ​@@rahuladhikari6990 i am not a specialist but that's kind of what i know as a physics undergrad

    • @tofu8688
      @tofu8688 3 роки тому +1

      @@jorgemalosti9308 wouldn’t that be more of an experimentalist?

    • @dariuschong4574
      @dariuschong4574 2 роки тому +3

      @@jorgemalosti9308 They would be considered theorist. Most university's computational research groups would be categorized under "theoretical & computational physics", at least based on what I observe.

  • @couragethecowerdlydog6803
    @couragethecowerdlydog6803 3 роки тому +9

    As we discover more and more about space, the need for experimentalist will increase exponentially.

  • @user-re5ut3bg9u
    @user-re5ut3bg9u 3 роки тому +9

    My dream is to become a experimental physicist

    • @al_player2731
      @al_player2731 Рік тому +2

      Me too. The people think that the physics is only theory and for that reason the people hate the physics, when with the physics you can do experiments very funny and to learn How work the things (circuits, photons, etc)

    • @pilzkuuh5045
      @pilzkuuh5045 5 місяців тому

      ​@@al_player2731 trivial

    • @Danilio.
      @Danilio. 28 днів тому

      So, how's it going?

  • @maxwellsequation4887
    @maxwellsequation4887 3 роки тому +5

    Great experimental physicist
    Micheal Faraday
    Still.....
    Theoritical Physics besst

  • @brendawilliams8062
    @brendawilliams8062 2 роки тому +1

    I laughed and laughed. Thx.for the insight into that world. I lived the dig the experimentalist carry around. Always nice to learn something new.

  • @Kiky_MedPhysicist
    @Kiky_MedPhysicist Рік тому

    Thank you so much for making this video

  • @maconcamp472
    @maconcamp472 3 місяці тому +1

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  • @kftshuvo7325
    @kftshuvo7325 5 років тому +1

    I am from Bangladesh 🇧🇩
    I have much interest to read BU...hope that one day I'll complete my graduation from Boston University ✌🎓

    • @of8155
      @of8155 3 роки тому

      Hi I am from India (West Bengal).

  • @dhimanroy1671
    @dhimanroy1671 3 роки тому +5

    Enrico Fermi is the legendary experimental physicist!

    • @aryamanmishra154
      @aryamanmishra154 3 роки тому +1

      He has one of the best contributions to theoretical Physics as well.

    • @mikhailmikhailov8781
      @mikhailmikhailov8781 2 роки тому +1

      Enrico Fermi was a god amongst men.

    • @HPGamer428
      @HPGamer428 10 місяців тому

      Fermi gave BETA decay theory theoreist can be experimentist Noble prize onle gave to EXPERIMENTS NOT theories

  • @allhdmoviescene1294
    @allhdmoviescene1294 Рік тому

    because for exp to be success it needs many exp theorist and credit goes to all but for theoretical only for one or 2

  • @josewui414
    @josewui414 3 роки тому +1

    Are you serious? No mention of Faraday? Not a single mathematical equation in his notebooks and yet he came up Faraday’s Law!

  • @joeboxter3635
    @joeboxter3635 2 роки тому

    What is the percentage theorist to experimentalist in the world? In the US? In Europe? In Russia? In China/Asia?

  • @joshuascott4771
    @joshuascott4771 6 місяців тому +1

    What about Nikola Tesla. technicly he was both but he ran his own expiraments.

  • @vanishreek3863
    @vanishreek3863 3 роки тому +2

    What about Nichola tesla

    • @pelin7993
      @pelin7993 5 місяців тому +1

      he is not exactly a physicist. he is an inventor

  • @Ghostbuster07
    @Ghostbuster07 3 роки тому

    “There are no famous experimental physicists”
    Thomas young proving light’s wavelike nature: 👁💧👄💧👁

  • @cyyxc
    @cyyxc 3 роки тому

    Very nice!

  • @stefanwebdev1803
    @stefanwebdev1803 2 роки тому

    Can you do it with mathematicians to ? :)) pure math vs applied math ?

  • @mawhulk
    @mawhulk 4 роки тому +10

    the thing is most physicist starts being theoretical until they realize most of it is garbage and is not going anywhere until someone conducts experiments on it. at least properly.

  • @Alups_43
    @Alups_43 5 років тому +1

    how about applied physicist

  • @raincoatcat
    @raincoatcat 3 роки тому

    Beatiful

  • @sebmandal
    @sebmandal 4 роки тому +14

    Not like anyone asked, but my opinion: Theorists make the rules, have more ideas, and have the ability to invent the laws that experimentalists follow.

    • @pi_rand4266
      @pi_rand4266 4 роки тому

      I wonder why experimentalists aren't that famous when compared to theorists ????

    • @zainebhidoussi1498
      @zainebhidoussi1498 4 роки тому

      @@pi_rand4266 maybe because the theorists are more than experimentalists ...or maybe because there are more interesting theories (I'm talking about quantity) than the things discovered experimentally

    • @mr.paulino9318
      @mr.paulino9318 4 роки тому

      Okay Sheldon Cooper

    • @mawhulk
      @mawhulk 4 роки тому +5

      Its not rules but more like an idea of a rule.
      they can come up with 99 theories and be proven none of them being real by experiments.

  • @The_Anonymous_God
    @The_Anonymous_God 3 роки тому +2

    Thanks to theoretical physics for sci-fi movies like mcu 😂😁😁😂

  • @Forever._.curious..
    @Forever._.curious.. 6 місяців тому +1

    😁

  • @mudarahmed3
    @mudarahmed3 4 роки тому +4

    Being a theoretical physicist seems to be a better choice since you still keep the chance to be something.

  • @shaykhplato772
    @shaykhplato772 5 років тому

    Great

  • @EternalFootman-kr6yx
    @EternalFootman-kr6yx 29 днів тому

    This is too neutral. The uploader portrays them both as real sciences when theoretical physics is a pseudo science

  • @veraalex7446
    @veraalex7446 3 роки тому +12

    theoretical physicists can be experimentalists but experimentalists cannot be theorists

    • @maxwellsequation4887
      @maxwellsequation4887 3 роки тому

      SIR ISAAC NEWTON reference

    • @aryamanmishra154
      @aryamanmishra154 3 роки тому +1

      @@maxwellsequation4887 Yeah why not start talking about Aristotle's time when nothing was known.

    • @kobemop
      @kobemop 8 місяців тому +2

      I think it's more or so the other way around...

    • @wander67
      @wander67 2 місяці тому +1

      It's the other way around.

    • @Danilio.
      @Danilio. 28 днів тому

      .

  • @daddyelon4577
    @daddyelon4577 3 роки тому

    These guys are have so little knowledge when they say there are no famous experimentalist 1:16 I mean just take Niels Bohr, Galileo galilie miachel Faraday were they not famous and crucial to science and all of them were experimentalist