@@natalierangkla I'm thai and I had work in international company where I practiced my conversation in english. That company was from Europe where english is not their native language so everyone was equal when using english as a communication channel. In school or thai work place, it's not really bullying but rather making fun of it which embarrassing the speaker. Thai people don't like losing face, you know that.
This is really interesting! I plan to go to Thailand to teach English (as soon as it is safe to travel) and I’ll definitely keep this in mind when I plan lessons. One thing I always hated about learning a language in school was that we never learned stuff that could be used in a real life situation. I hope I’ll be able to teach my students things they can actually use. Great video!!
Yes, keep that in mind and use it to keep you motivated, because you WILL need it. The Thai education system and the school administration style will frustrate you.
WYNTH L its not hard to learn english. As long as u can communicate english then it is good. I can teach u simple english but i dont know thai language 😁
Yeah in Thailand they focusing on grammar just like for the exam, remembering and answering, but not practical, so you can easily found that when the foreigner(s) ask something to some people, I would say that around or almost 50% of them would say something like “I don’t speak English” to avoid communicating with them. Lately we had a drama about Thai teacher’s requirement(s) I think for the government school, that most of the english teacher said that the minimum score around 400 of TOEIC is TOO MUCH some of them requested for around 200 , but i honestly think that they should get over 600.
I’m Thai and I just moved to a public high skl in the center of bkk. it’s surprisingly great. 20-30% of the students speak English (probably most of the time) and I love the fact that they don’t make fun of each other. They said accents don’t matter as long as you try your best. Just don’t be shy. I like how it’s not even a bilingual skl but the students THEMSELVES are tryna make it bilingual 😂😂❤️
relatable. learned more shit from the internet than school. but my english fluency is ass now since i rarely ever speak english, if the teacher tells the class to read a sentence i’ll usually read it in my mind
There are some Thai people who still use "we weren't colonised" as an excuse as to why Thailand is not good at English. This excuse doesn't work anymore. In this modern world of instant communication and readily available resources and the global use of English, anyone can learn English.
Chris Sakul-Thongbai you are right. Tbh, here Malaysia not many people good in english but we malaysia can communicate simple english and English is very important as it is a world communication language
@Ian Chan malay mainland is good speaking in english because there are outstanding university that using english as pre-requisite to entrance and Kuala Lumpur is global market and many expat live there, that's why english is really popular in mainland, but in sabar sarawak also any people can speak english very well
As a Thai people, I totally agree with you about Thai teacher teaching us with a complex grammar and a lot of unnecessary vocabulary since we were in elementary school till high school which make Thai student have faced a huge problem when it come to an examination by memorize English system though their vocabulary they have still less than 500 words which is one of the reason why thai student have been lacking intern of practical, for me I graduated high school from Memphis, TN and then I looked back at the English lesson that teacher taught in 8th grade and found out that the vocabulary is definitely really hard and not necessary use in day to day basis
I’m Thai and I wanna say that all things you’re talking about the English efficiency of Thai people, are correct. I think that the environment of Thai everyday life is not support for example Whom we can make an English conversation with? Accept someone who try so hard to seek some foreigner to speak with or come aboard to study in England or US. I had ever talk to the young American man who came to Thailand to try to learn to speak Thai. He said that why I didn’t come to the US to practice just like him who came aboard to the country that use this language everyday. I said I didn’t have enough budget to do that just like almost Thai people be. In every day life I can’t speak English as well but only read and write from my experience.
Netflix and youtube really helps. I am learning thai language (for 2 months now) and can now construct basic sentences and phrases. 1 more year and maybe i can start learning the writing reading part (which i know will be a lot more difficult than learning to understand and speak) oh God help me. 5555
@@lewangeles Way to go Lew :) Due to lockdown I've been watching a lot of Thai TV and listening to Thai MV and I'm picking up certain Thai words and phrases which I've been practicing on my Dog. The poor creature looks at me as if I've gone mad.
My friend was so scared of speaking English and was going to Ireland. I told her to relax and that native speakers are not so harsh on accent and grammar. When she came back, she told me I was right and that she is now more confident speaking English. Thank you for making this video showing this point.
I live in a remote village in Isaan only my girlfriend & her brother speak English. Often the kids in the village bring me their English homework for help which I gladly do. I was offered a teaching job recently but it's not something I want or need to do full-time Keep up the good work hope you can return soon🇹🇭
Would love to come back eventually but it might be a while still! Keep well and stay safe. Great to have someone watching from a small village up in Isaac. Thanks very much 🙏
Thank you. You hit it right on the head. I have pretty much similar thought on this subject. Learning English in Thailand is like learning to drive a car by getting the person to learn all the theory and science of the internal combustion engine and to memorise all the names of the various parts of the engine and gearbox and, after passing exams on those subjects, it is expected that the person would be able to drive a car, even though the person would have never sat behind a steering wheel and ACTUALLY driven a car before.
As a Thai, I would also add that there is a culture of “shaming” and being self-conscious. People are conscious of what others think about them while having peers who love to laugh and make fun of how they talk. I find the same culture in the Philippines. Most Filipinos outside big cities are shy to speak English to me even though they can because they are afraid of shaming. I also find it hard to learn Tagalog myself because of the same issue of being laughed at for my accent or wrong grammar.
i'm a filipino and i agree with this, there are lots of filipinos who are really good in english but are shy to speak, even me🤦 but when i'm talking to someone whom i really feel comfortable with, i can speak fluently and without worrying anything.
@@lovelyfairycate4039 สู้ๆนะครับ และโชคดีนะ ฉันอย่ากเรียนภาษาไทยด้สยตัสเอง และฉันเคารพคนไทย เพราะภาษาไทยยากมาก Don't know if I did it right but I'm fascinated by your language. I've learned it 2 months ago. So I hope you learn English and be confident. I know the struggles because of grammar structures and English is not Tonal. BTW I LOVE THAI💖
Yeah, I totally agreed with you. I’m trying to teach my students to start speaking English from daily activities and surrounding objects such as toiletries, kitchenware and furniture. Anything that they can easily see and use/practises by themselves every single day.
ive had formal training in 3 languages and in every one of those courses the conversational topics were always very obscure topics that used words i never used in everyday speech...... so annoying! now when i teach i make my own materials for teaching ..... it took a lot of extra time but to see my students flurish really makes it all worth it ! 😀😀 great video as always !
Paddy, excellent video and spot on! I volunteer at our village school and get really frustrated at the way english is taught, which is exactly as you explain in your video.
The international school student cycle (this apply to some schools only) - Schools force students to speak English - The students speak Thai - Students got punish for doing so - Students try to speak English - Students continues speaking Thai the cycle continues
In the USA, this is a similar issue. I have studied Spanish for 6 years between High School and University. I was very motivated to learn but out of the 12 or so teachers I had, only 2-3 of them forced us to constantly speak in Spanish and chose assignments that were practical. In essence, certainly in the early stages, if you learn something and practice saying to someone in an every day situation, it isn't much use. I remembered obscure vocabulary but did not how to say, "I know what you mean" or something useful might use everyday. I've been studying Thai for the last two years and I try to avoid those same mistakes. Also finding a Thai tutor that I can speak with a few hours a week to get honest/often hard but necessary feedback has made a monumental difference in a short amount of time.
This is a very interesting video. I am a Thai citizen who just graduated from an American high school recently. One of the most important issue on learning English is that most people are afraid or shy to speak in front of other people. Another issue is that they kept thinking about grammar structure while speaking which makes it harder to learn. It is really sad to hear that our English learning rank has become worse than before, but I believed that everyone in Thailand is trying the best they could to learn. I really support this video and will post this on social media!
I have been struggling to communicate with the locals until I have to learn Thai language😂😂One thing for sure, they need to add on more English channel, English news and English radio station. Bangkok is full of native English speaker, but sadly the other province and state are lack of them. Still, I love Thailand. Love from Malaysia❤
That's funny. The Thais never struck me as being that bad at English. Singapore, Malaysia, and the Philippines really use English so that wouldn't be comparing apples to apples. They're ahead of Laos at least. About the same as Cambodia. Vietnam has really amazed me. I first went there in 99 or 2000 and only a tiny handful of people in the practically nonexistent tourism industry at that time spoke English. Japan on the other hand has stayed stuck at the same level since maybe the '80s. Korea has improved, Chinese has improved a lot. Taiwan is awesome. But I'm a bad judge because I like the language barrier and want to learn a bit of the local language. Thais only need English for two things anyway, for tourism, and for doing international business to get rich, which is why some of the homework stuff was boring businessy stuff. Well that goes for every country I suppose.
@@noppadonintrakul7653 The average level of English speaking ability. Not "everything about the countries". Actually I think Cambodians seem to have a natural talent for languages much more than the Thais but not everybody there is trying to learn English.
@@andrewdunbar828 even tho thais ppl in general speak english very poorly, myanmar and cambodia are the lowest in the english proficiency among the asean. you'd better come with facts or statistics not your own feelings
Most Thais are naturally shy but most of all, their English was taught by Thai teachers, whose first language is almost always Thai. It would be nearly impossible for an average Thai to speak English without any discomfort, but I have noticed that most University students can write and read English fairly well. All Thais are pleased that someone who didn't grow up speaking Thai manages to learn and speak to them in Thai.
Yes, that came be a problem. Were as I learnt German in school, my German teacher was a German National. I then continued taking further lessons in evening classes at the my local college where woman teaching German was again a German National. When I learnt to speak Punjabi as a child I learnt from a native Punjabi speaker and spent many hours in her home with her extend family.
This’s exactly true, they’re teach something that useless or can’t use in real life and sometime teachers teach me not know about it and make me confused about it sometime I have to search lesson for myself and oh it better that teacher teaches lol.
I live in Australia and I used to work with a young school girl from Thailand and the amount of customers that used to be rude to her and not even try understand what she was saying because “it wasn’t perfectly spoken.” Frustrated us so much because I never had a problem talking to and understanding her. People need to be more understanding when someone is speaking a language that isn’t 1st language. It’s so hard learning another language.
I'm a from Philippines and I am really a fan of Thai series. I really wondered why aren't Thais can't speak English fluently, because I've watched some series wherein I really can't understand them and it's because they're speaking in English, translation isn't available that made me more confused with what they're talking about. I am so shook and now I found this video, I'm really thankfuk and grateful now because I deeply understand now why they're not that fluent in speaking in English. I also is not that fluent I swear, but I can communicate well and understand it well. Thank you so much♥️ Greeting to all Thai, Mabuhay(Long live) from 🇵🇭
Yes yes. Im thai. And this is True. I can guarantee to you all. That i guess about 80 - 90 persent of thai people can not speak english Also. WHOAa. Your thai accent is really good! Its almost like you are from Thailand! Its incredible!
I love that your first association with German was „Schnitzel“ and „Hamburger“ paired with a spot on harsh german tone of speaking 😄 Greetings from Munich!
I love Thailand so much I love every culture of them including those foods. TO ALL THAILAND CITIZENS DON'T DISAPPOINTED If you can't speak well fluently in English English doesn't matter. Love your culture and be what your culture want♥️♥️
I'm not complimenting myself but, I think I'm good at English and I wanted to be a diplomat! (Beacuse, I love languages, and teaching isn't really my way) Let's just say some people don't like teaching. ;-;
Learning a language from school doesn’t guarantee good comprehension and fluency. It’s how a person use and encounter it everyday. :) The reason (maybe) why most Filipinos are good in English, relative to other SE Asian nations is that almost everywhere here in the Philippines, whether in the street signs, offices, TV and radio programs, are in English.
Thank you so much. I really appreciate your perspective. I am one of Thai people who want to improve my English. Even I have such a motivation, I still agreed that speaking English and learning English were so hard in Thailand. However, I don't care who ever that keeps judging me and made it through until I have got scholarship to study in US. I always hope to learn most from here and go back to improve this problem real quick.
I’m Thai and Now I’m student. For me, The first reason that I can’t speak English, is VOCABULARY. When I tried to speak, I like to “a...”. 😭😭😂 I don’t know what the word I want to say. Ok it’s because i don’t like to memorize the word but I think bcz. we don’t use it in real life and that make it hardly to memorize (And now I cant remember ‘’memorize” // i have just opened dictionary Lol) The second, the different of accent Thai vs Any country. I don’t know what they speak so I cant to understand and answer them when they asked me 😭😭 For me reading and writing are easier than speaking. Bcz of the accent vocabulary and “courage “ they are necessarily for speaking. And the last I want to say to everyone that we have to attempt . If you were hopeless, turn around you will see everyone like you they are attempt. So don’t give in !!! //sry if I use wrong grammar and word 😤😤
I have spent a lot of time with Thais is Australia. I have come to understand just how crazy it must seem as a second language, especially as it's used here in Australia. I'm not even sure how Aussies came to use the word 'after' in place of the word 'like' or 'want'. Can you imagine landing here with limited English and being asked "Hi, what are you after?"
Paddy, a great video! Thank you! However I feel you don’t scratch the surface of the issues in education enough. There is a fundamental issue in the education system structure that prefers native English speakers as TEFL as opposed to qualified English speakers from outside native countries. There is also the issue of native teachers who teach English, not having the ability to speak English... a conundrum more prominent in areas outside of BKk. Confidence is also an issue, especially in an education system based on rote learning over discovery and critical thinking. Thailand suffers because the education system rebates teachers to a level where asking a question implies inadequacy in the teaching method.. therefore students do not question the word of the teacher in fear of being caught on the wrong side.
Yeh I definitely could have gone in a bit more depth in this issue but was just keeping it a bit on the lighter side! I definitely agree with a lot of your points. Critical thinking should be encouraged throughout every education system. Thanks for sharing your thoughts Deano
Oh my this is what my Thai friend said. Where as here in the UK students are expected to ask questions, develop Critical Thinking it's active rather than passive learning.
When I was in English class I feel like I'm in a Math class. They always taught about gramma ' verb ' adjective blah blah blah. In my mind, I think the point of how to speak English or another language is how to make interlocutors get what I said. P.s.I learn English from Movies and Video games.
wiroch .P it is hard to learn when you stay a place that nobody can speak thai haha. Many people say chinese is hard but i know chinese many people here speak chinese haha i try to download an app exchange language but most of the people there are not really want to teach thai, they use the platform for other purposes 😂
yeahh dude, I know your pain when english lesson in class before. It has happened in Indonesia too we're not native country using english and also indonesia and Thai didn't have history compare to singapore or malaysia that they were colonized by british In Indonesia, we also learn english lesson like math lesson, we learn formula and no practice to speak, even the teacher also speak in native in Indonesia language hahahaaha movies are really help and make it works, and today I can improve my english to watch vlog from foreign person who speak english with english subtitle and it is help me so far
That feels more like a copout to me. If that were the case learning Japanese would be extremely difficult for English speakers as English is SVO and Japanese is SOV. Whereas Thai is also an SVO language. Therefore the language structure is still similar in ways, and not as you say, "very different". Where as Japanese would be considered completely different. But either way language structure has very little do with with actual language acquisition.
@@starship8088 I find Japanese much easier to learn than Thai. I spent 8 years in Japan and 5 years in Thailand. My Japanese is light years ahead of Thai. For me it is the tones, not the language structure.
@@CarbonatedLithium That's why I feel it's a copout excuse. The grammar structure is objectivly irrelevant. Everyone learns differently and finds one aspect of language learning more difficult than the other.
@@starship8088 hella cop-out because in learning thai as an English speaker and although it's difficult (tones and grammar) I can easily make a sentence as I don't have to think about the order of the words. I've also studied Japanese and the main difficulty in that language(for me) is learning the meaning of the Kanji and when to use them.
I have thought about making this video. This is way better than what I was gonna do hahaha. Respect to your Thai! It would be nice to cover how culture affects learning, such as when people do not wish to correct each other or when making jokes about pronunciation mistakes. I'm sure someone else has also mentioned rote style learning as well. Really entertaining and relevant content. Thanksssss
Thanks so much Ajarn Herry!! And sorry about the late reply! It would definitely be interesting to show that comparison because I have a feeling it would be a massive factor!
Many English words doesn't have tagalog translation and that's one factor why many Filipinos can speak English. If you translate English to Tagalog, the words and sentence structure was similar unlike Thai because they have their own words and grammar rules.
I am learning in English program in my school(Thai school of course), this program teaches almost everything in English and the teachers are foreigners too. But a lot of my classmates can't really speak English.
You can also say, "Have you had lunch (or Dinner).?" Lunch being the midday meal, Dinner being the evening meal. We might even say "Have you been to lunch yet".
Sitting in my hovel in Nong Khai or Udon Thani, repeating again and again how to ask for something, and then going out and getting it, was powerfully productive. It's just awesome to ask if they've fish curry, buy some, say thanks. And the next time there's something deep in you that remembers, because it's lodged in that actual usage. I asked a kid in 2014 in Bangkok where the skytrain station was, and gave him lee-ow sai, lee-ow kwa and trong pai as options, and he showed me. Again, that just lodges it in your being.
Very informative. I'm a native Tagalog speaker with close to native English speaking and writing capabilities, who's trying to study the Thai language. So far, great!
Paddy..the lockdown in Sydney is driving me nuts. I want to be back in Thailand. I don't think the phrase 'driving me nuts' would translate well into Thai. We aussies use so much slang. Its time for me to hit the sack.
G'day Gregory, I just tried this on the missus & kids to see if they would understand....bear in mind my translation is nowhere as good as what Paddy's would be even though I have been learning Thai for over 35 years! First I talked about lockdown Then I said: เเบปนี้คือการจ้ะขับผมบ้าน้าครับ Baap nee kid garn ja kub phom bah na krub this got a mixed review....half understood I think Then I dropped the driving reference เเบปนี่ทำให้ผมบ้าน้าครับ Baap nee tum hai phom bah na krub Then totally understood....yay
Add a comma might help. Try saying "driving me, nuts!" Come to think of it, you didn't mean to say "driving my nuts", right? That would be really hard to put in Thai words. 😏
That was a real good video and very true . I think you should get straight back to Thailand and start teaching again. I'm hungry. Thanks for a thought provoking video. You're the best.
Thank you so much Martin! Might be tough during the COVID period to be honest but hopefully a bit of travel back there is not too far away! Stay safe and keep well ✌️🙏
We won't bully chu. People actually compliments you guys that can atleast speak English. And some people can't speak English because they thought it was too hard so they decided to drop it. But, I love English! It's fun!
yeah I ever heard of that before in my class there's only me and the boy in my class who can talk in english perfecly and we just look like god and goddess in english class for the other lol
The reason why teachers teach like that in the school because most of the significant tests in Thailand don’t have a speaking test. In the test you have to know many grammar rules and vocabularies which might not use in everyday life. In conclusion, teachers teach what students will be facing in the exam.
I like to studying English because I love English language so much, and I said to my friend English is so Easy, but they are acting like they're hated English. By the way I love this language 😍❤️ PL. My English so bad LOL
Awesome video. It was great to hear your perspective. Personally, I have been traveling for 10 years and when it comes to learning languages I do not bother with nouns. Verbs, adjectives, popular phrases, days, numbers and the alphabet is the fastest path to a language. The ability to describe and ask the name of a thing is much better than only knowing the name of a thing.
Mate, those multiple choice are a wind up. My daughter used to give me them. Complete gobbledygook and sometimes completely incorrect or ambiguous. All the best. 🙏👍
I found my experience learning French in a non active setting in school way less fun than me learning Thai and actively going to speak to Thai people. I’ve used the Thai I was able to learn from 4-5 months of learning through my travels in bangkok
@@eltedelarosa I don't know how to spell it in Thai or Thai romanization 😅. Pretty sure it means "to be", and seems to come from Chinese 是 haha, the romanization's probably spelt the same, "shi" 🤷😅
As a Thai here's the reasons : - Some teachers spell wrong accent or pronoun and the education more focus on grammar than conversation. - If student (in some cases) speak wrong accent , vocabulary or pronoun they will get teased by classmate or maybe get punished by teacher. - In some Asian countries culture and society don't want to make the people being difference or confidence by seniority system it's one of the reason that can be a hard thing to learn English because its must being confidence to speak and many Asian people seem low self esteem to spend their life to do something. - Thai education index ranks relatively low because the education system don't give a freedom choice to student to choose their interested subject to learn and they can't avoid some subject that not indispensable likes scout , swimming , dancing art , etc. If they don't attend the class they will not get passed I think these subjects should be optional likes USA , Europe , Japan that these countries had much better education system than Thailand. It's not that good things.
I’m Thai, I speak English as daily basis. Yes, I learn international school I learn most from yt but school focuses too much on Grammar that I don’t even understand anymore, our English class teach random stuff like bird and other and not basic conversation
Thai's just don't use English outside of various areas to communicate. Unlike the other countries you mentioned. Which use English almost more than thier native language for everything, except in private conversations and with family. For Thai's English is just that a second or third language. Many can understand Chinese and Filipino and pick up it as an additional language. But dialect is very different in Thai. Northern Thai, southern, central, mix in some Laotian.... and oddly as it seems to use. English is a very difficult language to learn. A lot of slang, a lot of mixed meanings like in your example. Then you add in your Australian, and you also have English people from the UK,, Canadian people, American people, just to name a few... who speak English and it's their native language yet each is completely different bloody hell mate by golly I don't know how y'all can't seem to fully understand and comprehend how to simply order a hamburger.....
I taught myself Thai some time back and your point that languages are taught in an impractical way is quite true. I remember watching videos of Thai's teaching English to Thai's and the students are bombarded with an enormous amount of formal grammar concepts. I can tell you now very few native English speakers understand what those grammar terms mean. I went to Thailand a couple of times (about 8 years ago) and I there were people who spoke excellent English, not just people that work in the hospitality industry either. I was really impressed. By the same token some of the younger people I met, who obviously learnt English at school, only knew a few words. From my own language learning experience I found watching movies and TV programs an excellent way to find common words and phrases. The only problem is you have to spend a lot of time trying to understand what is being said and then translate the meaning.
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ผมว่าเป็นที่ความเห็นแก่ตัวของคนนั้น ๆ มากกว่าที่พูดภาษาอังกฤษได้ แล้วเอาเรื่องนี้ไปเหยียดชาติอื่น
เราต้องดูด้ววนะครับ ว่าที่พูดมันดี ทั้งญี่ปุ่น จีน เกาหลี สื่อสารภาษาอังกฤษ พูดคล่อง กว่าคนไทยด้วยซ้ำ โดยรวมทั้งประเทศ ไม่เพียงแต่มองว่าไม่จำเป็น ประเทศนั้น พูดแต่ภาษาของเขาเองทำไมถึงเป็น G.20 ทำไมประเทศนั้นภาษาเขาบูม แต่หารู้ไม่ว่าลักษณะภูมิศาสตร์และใหญ่กว่า หารู้ไม่ว่าอดีตเขาเป็นมหาอำนาจมาก่อน ดังเช่นประเทศญี่ปุ่น ประเทศเหล่านี้ถึงก้าวหย้าและแข่งขันในเวทีสากลได้เยอะกว่า คนไทย ด้วยซ้ำ เอาง่ายๆ เอาแค่หลักการ เปอร์เซ็นต์ของชาวต่างชาติในมหาลัยต่างชาติ ที่ไม่ใช่ไทย เปอร์เซ็นต์ของเด็กไทยในการแข่งขันเรียนต่อถือว่าอันดับล่างเยอะเลย ถ้าเทียบกับ มาเลเซีย สิงคโปร์ ไต้หวัน ฮ่องกง ไทยเราเองพอๆกับ กัมพูชา ลาว พม่า ด้วยซ้ำ ในการแข่งขันเวทีโลกอะนะ
อีอบ่างเห็นด้วยว่าไทยอัดแกรมม่าเยอะ จนทำใฟ้เด็กสื่อสารไม่ได้ ถ้าครอบครัวไม่ได้สนับสนุน หรือส่งเรียนต่างประเทศ เปอร์เซ็นต์ จะมีสัก 10 ที่ภาษาได้ กับอีก 20 ที่ภาษาไม่ได้ เด็กเจอแกรมม่า ก็ตายเพราะน่าเบื่อ หลักการเยอะ แต่ควรสอนการสื่อสารก่อน แกรมม่ามันจะซึมซับไปในตัวเมื่อพูดถูกอะนะ
จริงครับแกรมมาสอนมาแล้วปวดหัวถ้าสอนหลักการใช้จริงใด้มากว่าจะดีกว่าจริงๆครับ
@@LordTribunalBeyonder เดี๋ยว ๆ เหยียดยังไงไม่ทราบครับ เขาพูดเรื่องปัญหาการเรียนภาษาอังกฤษของไทย โยงไปไหนไม่รู้ อย่าเพ้อจนเสียสติสิครับ ดูบริบทด้วยว่าเจตนารมณ์เขาสื่ออะไร
ปัญหาในไทยนี่หลายอย่างมากครับ
1.ได้ครูไม่ชำนาญมาสอน
2.หลักสูตรที่เน้นแต่แกรมม่า คือ บางคนนี่พูดได้นะ แต่กลัวผิดแกรมม่าเลยไม่กล้าพูด
3.สืบต่อจากข้อ 2 มันมีการลงโทษและการแกล้งเวลาพูดผิดจนทำให้คนจำนวนมากเสียความมั่นใจ(ข้อนี่เคยโดนกับตัวครับ ไม่รู้ รร.อื่นมีไหม)
4.บางทีก็เน้นการเขียนกับอ่านมากเกินไป
5.บางทีพูดได้ แต่ไม่แน่ใจศัพย์บางคำ
6.สำเนียง(accent)ครับ เราฟังแต่สำเนียงไทย พอเจอสำเนียงอื่นไม่คุ้นเลยฟังไม่รู้เรื่อง
เออออออออ ก็จริง
ข้อ 2 ครับ ผมไม่เก่ง grammar เลยไม่พูดเเละไม่เขียนอังกฤษ
อันจริงๆเลยค่ะ ตอนนี้อยู่ม.5ค่ะ ถ้าถามสกิลengตัวเองบอกเลยว่าไม่ดีมาก ขอเล่าประสบการณ์ตอนอยู่ประถมนะคะ คือจำได้ครูสอนengแกจะมักทำทำแบบฝึก แกแบบสอนแกรมม่านิดหน่อย จากนั้นสั่งานให้เป็นการบ้าน พอวันส่งเด็กทั้งห้องมารวมตัวต่อแถวส่งงาน ใครเขียนengพิมพ์เรียงแกรมม่าไม่ถูก แกไล่ให้ไปแก้เลย ใครแก้ไม่ทันในคาบคือตีๆอย่างเดียว ใครนับเลขengไม่ได้ก็ตี(มันจะมับางคนที่นับไม่ได้)นี่แหละหลักสูตรไทย
จริงถูกอย่างแหละ
3ใช่ครับการบูลลี่ทำไห้เด็กหลายคนไม่กล้าเเสดงออกเพราะเหมือนคางคกบูลลี่กันเอง
They got bullied when trying to speak English. This happens at school for kids and even workplace for adults.
Really? That's awful 😞
@@natalierangkla I'm thai and I had work in international company where I practiced my conversation in english. That company was from Europe where english is not their native language so everyone was equal when using english as a communication channel. In school or thai work place, it's not really bullying but rather making fun of it which embarrassing the speaker. Thai people don't like losing face, you know that.
What?! I will punch those bullies 😡
Exactly I have experience as that , my ex - boss who is Thai they look down on me when I speak English
One more reason from teacher , not only English teacher but all subjects teacher , since I was in school 40 years ago up to now ,
คนไทยส่วนใหญ่ที่พูดอังกฤษไม่ค่อยได้ เพราะไม่ได้ใช้ในชีวิตประจำวัน และตอนเรียนก็อ่านเขียนซะเยอะ ไม่ได้พูดและฟังเป็นหลัก ส่วนตัวพูดได้ระดับนึงเพราะศึกษาเอง มีเพื่อนต่างชาติ และชอบไปต่างประเทศ เลยฝึกด้วยตนเองค่ะ 😄
ผมอ่านได้
My teacher is open google translate while teaching.
Nailed it
อย่าดึงตัวเองให้ต่ำอย่างที่เค้าว่าครับ เราไม่ได้อยู่ในประเทศที่เค้าพัฒนาส่วนใหญ่เป็นชาติตะวันตก
Sounds about right!
Oh my that's rlly. . . srly awful
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ระบบการศึกษาไทยไม่ดี ที่เห็นคนไทยพูดอังกฤษได้ส่วนใหญ่จะเรียนรู้ด้วยตัวเองอย่างน้าผมจบเเค่ป.6ก็เรียนรู้อังกฤษด้วยตัวเองจนได้เเฟนป็นคนสวีเดนตอนนี้อยู่สวีเดนมาหลายปีเเล้วเเล้ว
การศึกษาไทยสอนภาษาอังกฤษสำหรับใช้โต้ตอบใน ธุรกิจ การทำงาน การทูต และเพราะเมืองไทยไม่เคยมีบรรยากาศที่มีแต่การใช้ภาษาอังกฤษในชีวิตประจำวัน เลย ไม่เน้นการสนทนาครับ ระบบแบบนี้วางรากฐานมาตั้งแต่สมัยพระพุทธเจ้าหลวงเปิดประเทศรับความเป็นตะวันตก ในสมัยนี้คนไทยเข้าใจมากขึ้นว่าการสนทนาก็สำคัญ ในเมืองใหญ่การเรียนภาษาก็เน้นเรื่องนี้ แต่ในชนบทหรือที่ๆยังไม่ตื่นตัว ก็ยังคงสอนเน้นแกรมม่า แบบเดิมๆเพราะง่ายสำหรับผู้สอน
ระบบการศึกษาเน้นท่องจำไปสอบ
จริงๆการเรียนภาษามันต้อง ฟัง พูด อ่าน เขียน แล้วแกรมม่าจะตามมา และต้องเอาตัวเองไปอยู่ในสภาพแวดล้อมด้วยการใช้ภาษาอังกฤษอีก เช่น ดู หนัง ฟังเพลง เป็นต้น
@@namch.4210 อันนี้คือจริงมาก เพราะมันจะได้รู้อะไรหลายๆอย่างที่สามารถพูดในชีวิตประจำวันได้บ้าง ตอนเด็กๆเราชอบเสียงพากย์ไทยเพราะเราอ่านซับไม่ทัน แต่พอโตมาเราชอบอ่านซับมากกว่าเพราะเราว่าเราจะได้รู้จักคำๆนั้นจริง แต่เวลาเราหาดูหนังซับไทยหายากอยู่นะ เพราะส่วนมากมีแต่พากย์ไทยไปเลย
@@namch.4210 เห็นด้วยครับ จอนเด็กผมเรียนอังกฤษก็เฉยๆ แต่พอโตขึ้นเรื่อยๆเราก็เริ่มสนใจภาษาอังกฤษจากหนัง เพลง หนังสือ วิดีโอ ฯลฯ โดยที่ไม่ต้องไปสอนอะไรให้ยุ่งยากมากมาย บางครั้งการฝึกที่ดีที่สุดในความคิดของผมคือ ต้องพูดกับคนต่างชาติด้วยครับ
You're right Paddy, Thai student learn it for exam not for everyday use.
Im thai and thats true
I use it for every day ise
Use
So true😢
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ขอบคุณมากๆนะครับสำหรับ nice comment ครับ! ดีใจที่ชอบดูด้วย พยายามทำคลิปแบบสนุกและตลกครับ 👌
This is really interesting! I plan to go to Thailand to teach English (as soon as it is safe to travel) and I’ll definitely keep this in mind when I plan lessons. One thing I always hated about learning a language in school was that we never learned stuff that could be used in a real life situation. I hope I’ll be able to teach my students things they can actually use. Great video!!
Yes, keep that in mind and use it to keep you motivated, because you WILL need it.
The Thai education system and the school administration style will frustrate you.
Yes!! We need more English teachers in Thailand!!
SweetBean you are right
WYNTH L its not hard to learn english. As long as u can communicate english then it is good. I can teach u simple english but i dont know thai language 😁
You'll be the good teacher. Keep fighting and help some Thai students from the sick education.
Yeah in Thailand they focusing on grammar just like for the exam, remembering and answering, but not practical, so you can easily found that when the foreigner(s) ask something to some people, I would say that around or almost 50% of them would say something like “I don’t speak English” to avoid communicating with them.
Lately we had a drama about Thai teacher’s requirement(s) I think for the government school, that most of the english teacher said that the minimum score around 400 of TOEIC is TOO MUCH some of them requested for around 200 , but i honestly think that they should get over 600.
I’m Thai and I just moved to a public high skl in the center of bkk. it’s surprisingly great. 20-30% of the students speak English (probably most of the time) and I love the fact that they don’t make fun of each other. They said accents don’t matter as long as you try your best. Just don’t be shy. I like how it’s not even a bilingual skl but the students THEMSELVES are tryna make it bilingual 😂😂❤️
That’s a nice story! Thanks a lot for sharing !
เป็นครูสอนนักเรียนไทยที่ไม่ได้พูดภาษาไทยเป็นภาษาแม่ นักเรียนภาษาไทยอย่างเป็นทางการที่โรงเรียนเป็นภาษาที่ 2 ส่วนอังกฤษเป็นที่ 3 ภาษาไทยในห้องเรียนไม่ได้สอนแบบที่ใช้พูดในชีวิตประจำวัน นอกห้องเรียน/ที่บ้าน/ชุมชนเด็กพูดภาษาตัวเอง ไม่ได้พูดไทยเลย แล้วเด็กเรียนรู้ภาษาไทยได้อย่างไร โชคดีที่เด็กมีโทรทัศน์ที่บ้าน ดูการ์ตูน ละคร รายการต่างๆ เข้าเมือง เข้าห้าง ไปเที่ยวทำให้คุ้นเคยกับภาษาไทย แล้วภาษาอังกฤษละ เรียนแค่ในห้องเรียน จะเอาไปใช้กับใครข้างนอกไม่ได้เลย บรรยากาศไม่ได้ส่งเสริมให้เกิดการเรียนรู้และนำไปใช้ ครูสอนพูด สร้างสถานการณ์ให้นักเรียนได้พูด แต่มันก็แค่ในระหว่างครูกับนักเรียนกับคำศัพท์ที่มีอย่างจำกัดเท่านั้น
ภาษาอังกฤษของโรงเรียนไทย ถ้าคุณตามไม่ทันตอนประถม คุณก็จะไม่ทันมันอีกเลยจนเรียนจบม.6 คือผมช่วงประถมตามไม่ทัน พอมามัธยมเขาสอนแบบขั้นต่อไปเลย โดยที่ไม่มาสอนเด็กที่ยังไม่เข้าใจให้เข้าใจให้อ่านได้แปลได้ มันกลายเป็นว่าคนที่ตามทันก็จะไปขั้นต่อไปได้เลย
ตามทัน.....เเต่เอามาใช้ในชีวิตประจำวันไม่เป็น......
จริง วิธีการสอนกดดันเด็กเกินไป
I totally agree with you.I feel like most of my vocabulary came from games and youtube
Now that's something I can relate to, I as well got much more English experiences from video games than I got from schools.
relatable. learned more shit from the internet than school. but my english fluency is ass now since i rarely ever speak english, if the teacher tells the class to read a sentence i’ll usually read it in my mind
ถูกต้องเพราะเราก็เรียนอังกฤษจากเกมและอินเทอร์เน็ต
เหมือนกันเลย 555
There are some Thai people who still use "we weren't colonised" as an excuse as to why Thailand is not good at English.
This excuse doesn't work anymore.
In this modern world of instant communication and readily available resources and the global use of English, anyone can learn English.
I think culturally English is not a priority for them even though it's loaded with tourists and expats
They just joking plus the truth by using that sentence We never be colonised ,
Chris Sakul-Thongbai you are right. Tbh, here Malaysia not many people good in english but we malaysia can communicate simple english and English is very important as it is a world communication language
@Ian Chan malay mainland is good speaking in english because there are outstanding university that using english as pre-requisite to entrance and Kuala Lumpur is global market and many expat live there, that's why english is really popular in mainland, but in sabar sarawak also any people can speak english very well
I don’t know Some Thai people cannot speak English but they can speak mandarin. And right now learning mandarin is booming.
As a Thai people, I totally agree with you about Thai teacher teaching us with a complex grammar and a lot of unnecessary vocabulary since we were in elementary school till high school which make Thai student have faced a huge problem when it come to an examination by memorize English system though their vocabulary they have still less than 500 words which is one of the reason why thai student have been lacking intern of practical, for me I graduated high school from Memphis, TN and then I looked back at the English lesson that teacher taught in 8th grade and found out that the vocabulary is definitely really hard and not necessary use in day to day basis
I’m Thai and I wanna say that all things you’re talking about the English efficiency of Thai people, are correct. I think that the environment of Thai everyday life is not support for example Whom we can make an English conversation with? Accept someone who try so hard to seek some foreigner to speak with or come aboard to study in England or US. I had ever talk to the young American man who came to Thailand to try to learn to speak Thai. He said that why I didn’t come to the US to practice just like him who came aboard to the country that use this language everyday. I said I didn’t have enough budget to do that just like almost Thai people be. In every day life I can’t speak English as well but only read and write from my experience.
But I tries to speak with myself too, bro!
Just try speaking english oof!
Source: Maybe I'm not Thai 100%.
I never seen who commented so long than u lol 😂 😂 😂 😂
Netflix and youtube really helps. I am learning thai language (for 2 months now) and can now construct basic sentences and phrases. 1 more year and maybe i can start learning the writing reading part (which i know will be a lot more difficult than learning to understand and speak) oh God help me. 5555
@@lewangeles Way to go Lew :) Due to lockdown I've been watching a lot of Thai TV and listening to Thai MV and I'm picking up certain Thai words and phrases which I've been practicing on my Dog. The poor creature looks at me as if I've gone mad.
ใช่ นั่นคือความจริงของคนไทย ในฐานะที่เราเป็นคนไทยเลยนะ ภาษาอังกฤษในห้องเรียนแทบที่จะไม่ได้ใช้เลย ทุกวันนี้เบื่อมากในการเรียนภาษาอังกฤษของคนไทยเพราะสอนภาษาอังกฤษที่นักเรียนไม่ได้ใช้เองเลยและสอนสิ่งไกลตัวด้วย ทุกวันนี้เราเรียนภาษาอังกฤษด้วยตนเองเรารู้สึกว่าภาษาอังกฤษเราดีขึ้นจริงๆเพราะภาษาอังกฤษในห้องเรียนมันยากมากสำหรับเด็กคนหนึ่งเราอาศัยการดูหนังบ้าง ดูยูปของเจ้าของภาษาบ้าง ดูการสนทนาบ่อยฟังซ้ำๆ เราคิดว่ามันพัฒนาขึ้นจริงๆนะ💗
It doesn't matter if you have accent the important thing is you can communicate.
My friend was so scared of speaking English and was going to Ireland. I told her to relax and that native speakers are not so harsh on accent and grammar. When she came back, she told me I was right and that she is now more confident speaking English. Thank you for making this video showing this point.
Thank you for sharing this story! It is really heartwarming! 💕✌️
I live in a remote village in Isaan
only my girlfriend & her brother speak English. Often the kids in the village bring me their English homework for help which I gladly do.
I was offered a teaching job recently but it's not something I want or need to do full-time
Keep up the good work hope you can return soon🇹🇭
Would love to come back eventually but it might be a while still! Keep well and stay safe. Great to have someone watching from a small village up in Isaac. Thanks very much 🙏
Thank you.
You hit it right on the head.
I have pretty much similar thought on this subject.
Learning English in Thailand is like learning to drive a car by getting the person to learn all the theory and science of the internal combustion engine and to memorise all the names of the various parts of the engine and gearbox and, after passing exams on those subjects, it is expected that the person would be able to drive a car, even though the person would have never sat behind a steering wheel and ACTUALLY driven a car before.
Brilliant analogy.
As a Thai, I would also add that there is a culture of “shaming” and being self-conscious. People are conscious of what others think about them while having peers who love to laugh and make fun of how they talk.
I find the same culture in the Philippines. Most Filipinos outside big cities are shy to speak English to me even though they can because they are afraid of shaming. I also find it hard to learn Tagalog myself because of the same issue of being laughed at for my accent or wrong grammar.
อยากเล่า เคยทำงานกับพวกปิน ดูถูกคนไทยมาก เรื่องภาษาอังกฤษโดยเฉพาะผู้หญิงปินนิสัยชอบ เหยียดหยาม โกรธมาก เจอมาหลายสิบคนเป็นงั้นเกือบหมด ส่วนน้อยนะที่ดี แรงสุดคือดูถูกว่าคนไทยโง่ ภาษาอังกฤษไม่ดี ก็เลยต้องเป็นหรี่อยู่พัทยา บอกว่าภาษาเราเหมือนพวกที่ขายตัว พูดใส่เราเพราะเราพูดอังกฤษออกเสียงผิด ทำงานรีโมท คอนเฟอเรน แล้วโดนด่าในวิดีโอคอล เราเป็นโปรแกรมเมอ ส่วนเธอเป็นmanager โกรธจนพูดไม่ออกอยากเถียงด่าอะไรแรงๆแต่ภาษาไม่แข็ง เจอเรื่อยๆวัฒนธรรมการ shame คนอื่นของปินนี่หนักจริง ของไทยก็มี เด็กนักศึกษาฝึกงาน เราออกเสียงสำเนียงเมกัน น้องโพล่งมา ตะกี้ออกเสียงว่าไรนะ..เราพูดใหม่ น้องพูดดังๆว่า เรียนหนังสือมาแน่เหรอ เรียนมหาลัยมาจริงหรือเปล่าคำนี้อ่านออกเสียงว่าอย่างนี้ต่างหาก.. แล้วมองเราแบบดูถูก ทุกคนก็มองๆ เราอับอายมาก ... ส่วนตัวของเรานะ เราไม่ทำแบบนั้น คือก็แนะนำกันดีๆ บอกกันดีๆ เพื่อการพัฒนา ไม่ใช่มาshame มาโชว์เหนือ ข้าเจ๋งกว่า จากประสบการณ์ที่เจอไม่อยากพูดอังกฤษเลย แต่ก็เลี่ยงไม่ได้ สยองหลอนมากกับนิสัยคนไทยกับปิน ปินนี่เหมือนจะมองเราต่ำกว่า หรือไม่ก็อิจฉาเราหรือยังไงไม่ทราบ เป็นบ้าอะไรเห็นคนดีกว่าไม่ได้ ถ้าเรามีจุดอ่อนแม้แต่นิดเดียวจะเอามาเหยียดทันทีทั้งที่ไม่เกี่ยวอะไรเลย เช่นเถียงกันเรื่องงานอยู่ มันไปเหยียดเรื่องสำเนียง หรือ ยกเอาเชื้อชาติเรา มหาลัย ครูบาอาจารย์ พ่อแม่เรามาเหยียด เช่นเพราะ upbringingไม่ดีเลยมี mindset แบบนี้ มหาลัยไม่ดี ครูอาจารย์ไม่ดี พ่อแม่คุณอย่างนั้นอย่างนี้เหรอเปล่าคุณเลยเป็นงี้.. ..งงว่าเกี่ยวอะไร เถียงกันเรื่องงานละดูมันลากเอาอย่างอื่นมาด่า.. ถ้าเห็นเราต่ำกว่าจะยิ่งเหยียบซ้ำเหยียดมีความสุข ทำงานด้วยแล้วประสาทแดก ทุกวันนี้ ถ้าเจอทีมปิน ขอผ่าน เราเห็นใจคนไทยที่ไปทำงานอยู่่นั่นมากๆสังคม toxic สุดๆ เรื่องภาษาทำให้เราเครียดมากขนาดแค่ทำรีโมทนะเนี่ยยังเหยียดอะไรขนาดนี้ ก็พยายามพัฒนาอยู่แต่คงอีกไกล อายุเลขสามแล้ว เรียนไม่ไหวละไม่เข้าหัวเลย เรียนไป ใช้ผิดพลาดบ้างเจอแต่การเหยียดหยาม กำลังใจถดถอยมาก ขอโทษนะที่บ่นในเม้นคุณยาว แค่อยากเล่า เจอมาแบบอัดอั้นจริงกับปิน รอบตัวมีแต่ปิน กับความคลั่ง perfect english ของพวกหล่อน
I can help you in your case because I want to learn your Thai language 😊
i'm a filipino and i agree with this, there are lots of filipinos who are really good in english but are shy to speak, even me🤦 but when i'm talking to someone whom i really feel comfortable with, i can speak fluently and without worrying anything.
i'm currently learning thai btw
but majority of filipinos can actually speak english tho
I am from shanghai, now i am learning Thai.
Good luck!! All the best with your studies 🤓✌️
加油！我是泰国人.现在‚我也学习中文
@@mona0285 加油
Have a good luck I confirm it will very harder than chinese
Dear Thais,
Who cares if you have an accent. That's hella cute!
Awww thanks! I'm not good at English... But i'll practice more and more. (>\\
@@lovelyfairycate4039 susu na khun!! 😊 (I think I got it right 😅)
@@lovelyfairycate4039 สู้ๆนะครับ และโชคดีนะ ฉันอย่ากเรียนภาษาไทยด้สยตัสเอง และฉันเคารพคนไทย เพราะภาษาไทยยากมาก Don't know if I did it right but I'm fascinated by your language. I've learned it 2 months ago. So I hope you learn English and be confident. I know the struggles because of grammar structures and English is not Tonal. BTW I LOVE THAI💖
Oh gosh, your cute word rlly gone through my heart TwT💗 thx you cinnamonroll💞
@@stephenwaldron2748 aw, that's rlly cute
(for in thai language: สู้ๆนะคุณ)
เรียนภาษาอังกฤษมาตั้งแต่ประถม จนตอนนี้ม.6แล้ว รู้สึกว่ายังพูดไม่ได้เลยค่ะ มันเป็นเหมือนปัญหาเรื้อรังที่แก้ยากมาก อาจจะเพราะเคยเจอคนที่คอยตำหนิเวลาเราพูดแล้วมันผิด grammar หรือสะกดคำผิด อะไรอย่างนี้ค่ะ ก็เลยเสียความมั่นใจเวลาพูดไปเลย ;-;
Even you say Thai only focus on English grammar,I'm still use grammar wrong-
(Yep,I'm Thai)
Me too-
I'm thai and half german still hasn't learned show to read and write (I'm 10 btw)
As per paddy, practice is the key ^_^
Yeah, I totally agreed with you. I’m trying to teach my students to start speaking English from daily activities and surrounding objects such as toiletries, kitchenware and furniture. Anything that they can easily see and use/practises by themselves every single day.
ive had formal training in 3 languages and in every one of those courses the conversational topics were always very obscure topics that used words i never used in everyday speech...... so annoying! now when i teach i make my own materials for teaching ..... it took a lot of extra time but to see my students flurish really makes it all worth it ! 😀😀 great video as always !
It’s the same with so much language learning! Bit annoying to be honest! Thanks so much for watching and supporting Scott!
Paddy, excellent video and spot on! I volunteer at our village school and get really frustrated at the way english is taught, which is exactly as you explain in your video.
Thanks very much! Yes, sometimes it is a struggle. Good luck with it!
The international school student cycle (this apply to some schools only)
- Schools force students to speak English
- The students speak Thai
- Students got punish for doing so
- Students try to speak English
- Students continues speaking Thai
the cycle continues
Guess it didn't happen to me. My English is now better than my Thai.
@@Nole2701 Same here
@@Nole2701 Some teachers in Thailand like to punished their student especially in unifrom and haircut order.
เวลาเรียนครูให้ออกไปพูดภาษาอังกฤษหน้าห้อง แล้วเราพูดไม่ได้ ก็อายไง ครูก็ให้ยืนอยู่แบบนั้น แล้วเพื่อนก็มอง คือตอนนั้นอายมาก!! เลยไม่อยากเรียนภาษาอังกฤษอีกเลย...
In the USA, this is a similar issue. I have studied Spanish for 6 years between High School and University. I was very motivated to learn but out of the 12 or so teachers I had, only 2-3 of them forced us to constantly speak in Spanish and chose assignments that were practical. In essence, certainly in the early stages, if you learn something and practice saying to someone in an every day situation, it isn't much use. I remembered obscure vocabulary but did not how to say, "I know what you mean" or something useful might use everyday. I've been studying Thai for the last two years and I try to avoid those same mistakes. Also finding a Thai tutor that I can speak with a few hours a week to get honest/often hard but necessary feedback has made a monumental difference in a short amount of time.
This is a very interesting video. I am a Thai citizen who just graduated from an American high school recently. One of the most important issue on learning English is that most people are afraid or shy to speak in front of other people. Another issue is that they kept thinking about grammar structure while speaking which makes it harder to learn. It is really sad to hear that our English learning rank has become worse than before, but I believed that everyone in Thailand is trying the best they could to learn. I really support this video and will post this on social media!
Thanks for sharing it! Means a lot. I’m glad you found it insightful
I have been struggling to communicate with the locals until I have to learn Thai language😂😂One thing for sure, they need to add on more English channel, English news and English radio station.
Bangkok is full of native English speaker, but sadly the other province and state are lack of them.
Still, I love Thailand.
Love from Malaysia❤
so damn funny when you do these videos with several characters . The content is real good aswell, keep it up mate =)
I’m glad you like it 😂 never know how people are going to react to be honest!
That's funny. The Thais never struck me as being that bad at English. Singapore, Malaysia, and the Philippines really use English so that wouldn't be comparing apples to apples. They're ahead of Laos at least. About the same as Cambodia. Vietnam has really amazed me. I first went there in 99 or 2000 and only a tiny handful of people in the practically nonexistent tourism industry at that time spoke English. Japan on the other hand has stayed stuck at the same level since maybe the '80s. Korea has improved, Chinese has improved a lot. Taiwan is awesome.
But I'm a bad judge because I like the language barrier and want to learn a bit of the local language. Thais only need English for two things anyway, for tourism, and for doing international business to get rich, which is why some of the homework stuff was boring businessy stuff. Well that goes for every country I suppose.
thailand is the same as cambodia is wrong on so many levels. check your source again.
@@noppadonintrakul7653 The average level of English speaking ability. Not "everything about the countries".
Actually I think Cambodians seem to have a natural talent for languages much more than the Thais but not everybody there is trying to learn English.
@@andrewdunbar828 even tho thais ppl in general speak english very poorly, myanmar and cambodia are the lowest in the english proficiency among the asean. you'd better come with facts or statistics not your own feelings
"ahead of Laos?" have you ever spoken to the younger generation in Laos?
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Most Thais are naturally shy but most of all, their English was taught by Thai teachers, whose first language is almost always Thai.
It would be nearly impossible for an average Thai to speak English without any discomfort, but I have noticed that most University students can write and read English fairly well.
All Thais are pleased that someone who didn't grow up speaking Thai manages to learn and speak to them in Thai.
Yes, that came be a problem. Were as I learnt German in school, my German teacher was a German National. I then continued taking further lessons in evening classes at the my local college where woman teaching German was again a German National. When I learnt to speak Punjabi as a child I learnt from a native Punjabi speaker and spent many hours in her home with her extend family.
This’s exactly true, they’re teach something that useless or can’t use in real life and sometime teachers teach me not know about it and make me confused about it sometime I have to search lesson for myself and oh it better that teacher teaches lol.
ตั้งแต่ประถมครูเค้าสอนยากมากๆแล้วก็เรียกเด็กตอบ แล้วเราไม่เข้าใจทำให้รู้สึกกลัวมากๆ และไม่อยากเรียนปิดกั้นตัวเองตลอด จนเราขึ้นมัธยมครูสอนค่อนข้างดีและเข้าใจทำให้อยากเรียนมากขึ้น สอนพื้นฐานดีมากๆ อาจจะเป็นเพราะครูมัธยมค่อนข้างที่จะเป็นกันเองด้วย เปิดใจคุยได้
I live in Australia and I used to work with a young school girl from Thailand and the amount of customers that used to be rude to her and not even try understand what she was saying because “it wasn’t perfectly spoken.” Frustrated us so much because I never had a problem talking to and understanding her. People need to be more understanding when someone is speaking a language that isn’t 1st language. It’s so hard learning another language.
I'm sure it was mostly Australian women who were rude to her
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Interesting video. Shared.
Thank you so much for your support 🙏
I'm a from Philippines and I am really a fan of Thai series. I really wondered why aren't Thais can't speak English fluently, because I've watched some series wherein I really can't understand them and it's because they're speaking in English, translation isn't available that made me more confused with what they're talking about. I am so shook and now I found this video, I'm really thankfuk and grateful now because I deeply understand now why they're not that fluent in speaking in English. I also is not that fluent I swear, but I can communicate well and understand it well. Thank you so much♥️ Greeting to all Thai, Mabuhay(Long live) from 🇵🇭
Yes yes. Im thai. And this is True. I can guarantee to you all. That i guess about 80 - 90 persent of thai people can not speak english
Also. WHOAa. Your thai accent is really good! Its almost like you are from Thailand! Its incredible!
Thanks for the nice compliment! Really appreciate it ✌️
Percent*
As a Thai student, you speak the truth
I love that your first association with German was „Schnitzel“ and „Hamburger“ paired with a spot on harsh german tone of speaking 😄 Greetings from Munich!
Thanks for watching from Munich 🇩🇪 ! Glad you enjoyed my impression (I didn’t think it was that great tbh 😆) Greetings from Sydney
I love Thailand so much
I love every culture of them including those foods.
TO ALL THAILAND CITIZENS
DON'T DISAPPOINTED
If you can't speak well fluently in English
English doesn't matter.
Love your culture and be what your culture want♥️♥️
Another reason is Thai people who are good at English. Do not choose a profession as a teacher Maybe because of low incomes Or other reasons
I'm not complimenting myself but, I think I'm good at English and I wanted to be a diplomat! (Beacuse, I love languages, and teaching isn't really my way)
Let's just say some people don't like teaching. ;-;
True,Very true
เห็นด้วยค่ะ ปัญหาการศึกษานี้มันเป็นเชิงปัญหาโครงสร้างเลย เด็กไม่กล้าพูดด้วยส่วนหนึ่ง ครูในโรงเรียนยังสอนผิดอยู่ก็มี บวกกับหลักสูตรและความไม่เท่าเทียมในการเข้าถึงสื่อการสอนและครู สนใจอยากฟังประสบการณ์สนุก ๆ ตอนที่มาสอนในไทยจากแพดดี้เพิ่มเลยค่ะ ขอบคุณสำหรับคลิปดี ๆ เป็นกำลังใจให้นะคะ ☺️
Learning a language from school doesn’t guarantee good comprehension and fluency. It’s how a person use and encounter it everyday. :)
The reason (maybe) why most Filipinos are good in English, relative to other SE Asian nations is that almost everywhere here in the Philippines, whether in the street signs, offices, TV and radio programs, are in English.
Thank you so much. I really appreciate your perspective. I am one of Thai people who want to improve my English. Even I have such a motivation, I still agreed that speaking English and learning English were so hard in Thailand. However, I don't care who ever that keeps judging me and made it through until I have got scholarship to study in US. I always hope to learn most from here and go back to improve this problem real quick.
Great attitude! Don’t let people judging you stop you from doing what you want!
I’m Thai and Now I’m student.
For me, The first reason that I can’t speak English, is VOCABULARY. When I tried to speak, I like to “a...”. 😭😭😂
I don’t know what the word I want to say. Ok it’s because i don’t like to memorize the word but I think bcz. we don’t use it in real life and that make it hardly to memorize
(And now I cant remember ‘’memorize” // i have just opened dictionary Lol)
The second, the different of accent Thai vs Any country. I don’t know what they speak so I cant to understand and answer them when they asked me 😭😭
For me reading and writing are easier than speaking. Bcz of the accent vocabulary and “courage “ they are necessarily for speaking.
And the last I want to say to everyone that we have to attempt . If you were hopeless, turn around you will see everyone like you they are attempt. So don’t give in !!!
//sry if I use wrong grammar and word 😤😤
Grace L Thanks!! ;)
เหตุผลมีเยอะมากเลยครับ ผมเคยเจอครูที่สอนได้ดี แต่เด็ก ๆ ก็ยังพูดไม่ได้อยู่ดี นอกเหนือจากในคลิปก็ยังมี
1 เรียนแล้วไม่ได้ใช้งาน
- ไม่มี english user ในชีวิตประจำวัน
- พอตั้งใจใช้แล้วโดนเพื่อนล้อ
2 ไม่อยากเรียนรู้ด้วยเหตุผลว่า
- กลัว/ขี้เกียจ เจออะไรก็ตามที่ต้องใช้ภาษาอังกฤษ ก็จะเลิกทำกิจกรรมนั้นไปแทนที่จะพยายามเข้าถึง
- เพราะประเทศไทยไม่ใช่เมืองขึ้นอังกฤษ ก็เลยไม่เรียนภาษาอังกฤษ
I have spent a lot of time with Thais is Australia.
I have come to understand just how crazy it must seem as a second language, especially as it's used here in Australia.
I'm not even sure how Aussies came to use the word 'after' in place of the word 'like' or 'want'.
Can you imagine landing here with limited English and being asked "Hi, what are you after?"
I 100% agree. English is very difficult. Us Aussies need to be a little bit more patient with English as a second language speakers at times!
Paddy, a great video! Thank you!
However I feel you don’t scratch the surface of the issues in education enough. There is a fundamental issue in the education system structure that prefers native English speakers as TEFL as opposed to qualified English speakers from outside native countries. There is also the issue of native teachers who teach English, not having the ability to speak English... a conundrum more prominent in areas outside of BKk.
Confidence is also an issue, especially in an education system based on rote learning over discovery and critical thinking. Thailand suffers because the education system rebates teachers to a level where asking a question implies inadequacy in the teaching method.. therefore students do not question the word of the teacher in fear of being caught on the wrong side.
Yeh I definitely could have gone in a bit more depth in this issue but was just keeping it a bit on the lighter side! I definitely agree with a lot of your points. Critical thinking should be encouraged throughout every education system. Thanks for sharing your thoughts Deano
Oh my this is what my Thai friend said. Where as here in the UK students are expected to ask questions, develop Critical Thinking it's active rather than passive learning.
When I was in English class I feel like I'm in a Math class. They always taught about gramma ' verb ' adjective blah blah blah. In my mind, I think the point of how to speak English or another language is how to make interlocutors get what I said.
P.s.I learn English from Movies and Video games.
wiroch .P i want to learn thai language
@@IanChan Sound Great! There's someone teach Thai on youtube you can learn the Thai language from them. Also, you can learn from Thai films.
wiroch .P it is hard to learn when you stay a place that nobody can speak thai haha. Many people say chinese is hard but i know chinese many people here speak chinese haha i try to download an app exchange language but most of the people there are not really want to teach thai, they use the platform for other purposes 😂
yeahh dude, I know your pain when english lesson in class before. It has happened in Indonesia too
we're not native country using english and also indonesia and Thai didn't have history compare to singapore or malaysia that they were colonized by british
In Indonesia, we also learn english lesson like math lesson, we learn formula and no practice to speak, even the teacher also speak in native in Indonesia language hahahaaha
movies are really help and make it works, and today I can improve my english to watch vlog from foreign person who speak english with english subtitle and it is help me so far
@wiroch .P greeting from Bali dude
Love it when someone talking the truth about weak education system in Thailand.
For the same reason that English speakers have trouble with Thai, the language structures are very different.
That feels more like a copout to me. If that were the case learning Japanese would be extremely difficult for English speakers as English is SVO and Japanese is SOV. Whereas Thai is also an SVO language. Therefore the language structure is still similar in ways, and not as you say, "very different". Where as Japanese would be considered completely different. But either way language structure has very little do with with actual language acquisition.
@@starship8088 I find Japanese much easier to learn than Thai. I spent 8 years in Japan and 5 years in Thailand. My Japanese is light years ahead of Thai. For me it is the tones, not the language structure.
@@CarbonatedLithium That's why I feel it's a copout excuse. The grammar structure is objectivly irrelevant. Everyone learns differently and finds one aspect of language learning more difficult than the other.
@@starship8088 hella cop-out because in learning thai as an English speaker and although it's difficult (tones and grammar) I can easily make a sentence as I don't have to think about the order of the words. I've also studied Japanese and the main difficulty in that language(for me) is learning the meaning of the Kanji and when to use them.
I have thought about making this video. This is way better than what I was gonna do hahaha. Respect to your Thai! It would be nice to cover how culture affects learning, such as when people do not wish to correct each other or when making jokes about pronunciation mistakes. I'm sure someone else has also mentioned rote style learning as well. Really entertaining and relevant content. Thanksssss
Thanks so much Ajarn Herry!! And sorry about the late reply! It would definitely be interesting to show that comparison because I have a feeling it would be a massive factor!
Many English words doesn't have tagalog translation and that's one factor why many Filipinos can speak English.
If you translate English to Tagalog, the words and sentence structure was similar unlike Thai because they have their own words and grammar rules.
I am learning in English program in my school(Thai school of course), this program teaches almost everything in English and the teachers are foreigners too. But a lot of my classmates can't really speak English.
"Have you eaten yet?"
I likes the way how you teach English!
*I liked the way how you teach English!
You can also say, "Have you had lunch (or Dinner).?" Lunch being the midday meal, Dinner being the evening meal. We might even say "Have you been to lunch yet".
Sitting in my hovel in Nong Khai or Udon Thani, repeating again and again how to ask for something, and then going out and getting it, was powerfully productive. It's just awesome to ask if they've fish curry, buy some, say thanks. And the next time there's something deep in you that remembers, because it's lodged in that actual usage. I asked a kid in 2014 in Bangkok where the skytrain station was, and gave him lee-ow sai, lee-ow kwa and trong pai as options, and he showed me. Again, that just lodges it in your being.
Just like how I learned English by playing online games.
Same
@@Bozoreturn786 ye same
*I play Roblox and my English improved*
Same
same too
Very informative. I'm a native Tagalog speaker with close to native English speaking and writing capabilities, who's trying to study the Thai language. So far, great!
Paddy..the lockdown in Sydney is driving me nuts. I want to be back in Thailand. I don't think the phrase 'driving me nuts' would translate well into Thai. We aussies use so much slang. Its time for me to hit the sack.
Haha get some rest! Keep well
G'day Gregory, I just tried this on the missus & kids to see if they would understand....bear in mind my translation is nowhere as good as what Paddy's would be even though I have been learning Thai for over 35 years!
First I talked about lockdown
Then I said:
เเบปนี้คือการจ้ะขับผมบ้าน้าครับ Baap nee kid garn ja kub phom bah na krub
this got a mixed review....half understood I think
Then I dropped the driving reference
เเบปนี่ทำให้ผมบ้าน้าครับ Baap nee tum hai phom bah na krub
Then totally understood....yay
go to Thai town for now lol
"Driving me nuts" has a comparative translation in Thai, it translates fine.
Add a comma might help. Try saying "driving me, nuts!"
Come to think of it, you didn't mean to say "driving my nuts", right?
That would be really hard to put in Thai words. 😏
That was a real good video and very true . I think you should get straight back to Thailand and start teaching again. I'm hungry. Thanks for a thought provoking video. You're the best.
Thank you so much Martin! Might be tough during the COVID period to be honest but hopefully a bit of travel back there is not too far away! Stay safe and keep well ✌️🙏
you’ll get bully from so many children in thailand school if you have a bad accent , acting over accent some thing like this
We won't bully chu. People actually compliments you guys that can atleast speak English. And some people can't speak English because they thought it was too hard so they decided to drop it. But, I love English! It's fun!
You"ll also be treated like a god in the classroom if you have a perfect accent.
I like english subject but i try to fix grammar im not too well with it
yeah I ever heard of that before
in my class there's only me and the boy in my class who can talk in english perfecly and we just look like god and goddess in english class for the other lol
@@abudabe Lol.Same for me and my friend
Mind blown by how fluent you speak Thai! I’ve been trying to learn Thai since I started to work here (Thailand).
Perhaps you can post videos to learn Thai. Conversational lines that can be used in daily life.
From my experience studying in the Math-Science classroom as a sixth-grade student, I can say that Thai's education is really that sucks.
True
Totally agree with you! From Thai girl who learn English since grade1 till now (junior year in undergraduate)
Keep up the good work! Your English sounds great 💪
I taught uni in Phuket.
Old fashioned and dinosaurs were some of the descriptions that spring to mind. Those poor students didn't stand a chance...
หากสอนให้เด็กหรือผู้สนใจน่าจะสอนในรูปแบบสนทนาง่า แล้วค่อยเพิ่มระดับความยากขึ้น และอธิบายความหมายประโยคที่กำลังสนทนาและให้เข้าใจคำศัพท์ทุกคำที่ใช้ในการสนทนาว่าอยู่ในรูปแบบประโยคหรือกริยาแบบรูปไหน แต่นี่ที่เจอในโรงเรียนมาตั้งแต่เด็ก ท่องศัพท์ แกรมม่า ขั้นมหาเทพเลยปวดหัวเลย แต่สิบกว่าปีที่เดินทางไปทำงานต่างประเทศโดยเฉพาะเป็นหัวหน้างานต้องติดต่อประสานงานกับคนต่างประเทศเลยทำให้สนิมที่เกาะภาษาอํงกฤษในไทยหลุดออก เลยสบาย ภาษาอังกฤษหากเน้นสื่อสารมันไม่ได้เครียดเหมือนในห้องเรียนครับ รายการดีครับจะคอยติดตามครับ Paddy เก่งภาษาไทยในระดับดีเลยครับ
In school my teacher can’t even speak English what the hell and then after I moved to Australia I used just half a year to speak English
Thats cool
เรียนมา ทั้งหมด ตั้งแต่ อ.1-ปี4 เอาไปใช้จริงฝรั่งงง เหมือนพูดคนละภาษา ที่พูดพอได้เพราะประสบการณ์มากกว่า ฝรั่งแนะนำใช้คำง่ายๆสื่อความหมายได้ จะดีกว่าส่วนแกรมม่าจะตามมาเอง ขอบคุณที่วิจารณ์ และวิเคราะห์ได้ดี
A British who speaks fluent Thai stated "I speak fluent Thai but do not recall whether England had ever been colonized by Thailand".
👀😑
I don't want to but inevitably say that's "failed logic". It's only individual experience but can't apply to mass.
การศึกษา ประเทศไทย แทนที่จะสอนให้สะกด
ดันสอนให้จำซะงั้นว่าตรงนี้จะอ่านยังไง ซึ้งทุกคนก็ลืมไปแล้ว
I've been speaking English since kindergarten and now I'm in 5th grade.
I'm Thai and I can't agree more. Keep up the good work.
Im from Philippines and im currently learning thai :) sawadeee khrap 🥰
Sawadee krap! Good luck with it. Salamat 🇵🇭
The reason why teachers teach like that in the school because most of the significant tests in Thailand don’t have a speaking test. In the test you have to know many grammar rules and vocabularies which might not use in everyday life.
In conclusion, teachers teach what students will be facing in the exam.
"They" don't want Thai people know English too much....
The confidence you have in your skits is the confidence I need when learning ไทย
Give it a try Eldin! Confidence is the 🔑
I like to studying English because I love English language so much, and I said to my friend English is so Easy, but they are acting like they're hated English. By the way I love this language 😍❤️
PL. My English so bad LOL
Awesome video. It was great to hear your perspective. Personally, I have been traveling for 10 years and when it comes to learning languages I do not bother with nouns. Verbs, adjectives, popular phrases, days, numbers and the alphabet is the fastest path to a language. The ability to describe and ask the name of a thing is much better than only knowing the name of a thing.
Mate, those multiple choice are a wind up. My daughter used to give me them. Complete gobbledygook and sometimes completely incorrect or ambiguous. All the best. 🙏👍
Who knows where it comes from 😂 Hope you are well James👍🏼
Thank you! This video makes me long for the moment i rertire and i can go and do some good work for the children of Thailand!
ครูแทบไม่สอนอย่างอื่นเลยนอกจากแกรมม่าและบางทีครูก็ไม่สอนด้วย ครูนั่งกินกาแฟสบายใจ;-;
Going at a tree with an axe when frustrated seems like a proper aussie thing to do. I like this channel! 😊
Thanks for watching Mikael! 🪓
I’m Thai and I speak English like an American.
I have a friend right now UwU
Omg a new friend thank u
are you fake thai?
@@farpetenat ofc not bruh there are thai people who are good at english but its like 6 percent of the country
Advice to literally everyone: Don't be afraid to make mistakes.
I found my experience learning French in a non active setting in school way less fun than me learning Thai and actively going to speak to Thai people. I’ve used the Thai I was able to learn from 4-5 months of learning through my travels in bangkok
Me: *goes to comments to read what Thai people have to say on the subject.
Also me: *can't read Thai
😩 Pom shir buffalo na khrap?
🤣🤣🐃🙊🙊😅
Sorry? I can't read "shir".
@@eltedelarosa I don't know how to spell it in Thai or Thai romanization 😅. Pretty sure it means "to be", and seems to come from Chinese 是 haha, the romanization's probably spelt the same, "shi" 🤷😅
@@Butterfly_s3000 Does your name mean "Are you Nuguya?", something like that. Hangul, I _can_ read; Korean, I don't know 😉👉👉
@@stephenwaldron2748 😂 naega nuguya?
As a Thai, English is hard at first, but if you learn more you can speak English fluently
As a Thai here's the reasons :
- Some teachers spell wrong accent or pronoun and the education more focus on grammar than conversation.
- If student (in some cases) speak wrong accent , vocabulary or pronoun they will get teased by classmate or maybe get punished by teacher.
- In some Asian countries culture and society don't want to make the people being difference or confidence by seniority system it's one of the reason that can be a hard thing to learn English because its must being confidence to speak and many Asian people seem low self esteem to spend their life to do something.
- Thai education index ranks relatively low because the education system don't give a freedom choice to student to choose their interested subject to learn and they can't avoid some subject that not indispensable likes scout , swimming , dancing art , etc. If they don't attend the class they will not get passed I think these subjects should be optional likes USA , Europe , Japan that these countries had much better education system than Thailand. It's not that good things.
So I have to correct teacher everytime if they're wrong.
@@civilsecuritypain1677 You're lucky when compared to the most Thai students.
I’m Thai, I speak English as daily basis. Yes, I learn international school I learn most from yt but school focuses too much on Grammar that I don’t even understand anymore, our English class teach random stuff like bird and other and not basic conversation
Thai's just don't use English outside of various areas to communicate. Unlike the other countries you mentioned. Which use English almost more than thier native language for everything, except in private conversations and with family. For Thai's English is just that a second or third language. Many can understand Chinese and Filipino and pick up it as an additional language. But dialect is very different in Thai. Northern Thai, southern, central, mix in some Laotian.... and oddly as it seems to use. English is a very difficult language to learn. A lot of slang, a lot of mixed meanings like in your example. Then you add in your Australian, and you also have English people from the UK,, Canadian people, American people, just to name a few... who speak English and it's their native language yet each is completely different bloody hell mate by golly I don't know how y'all can't seem to fully understand and comprehend how to simply order a hamburger.....
are you thai?
nice english dude
I taught myself Thai some time back and your point that languages are taught in an impractical way is quite true. I remember watching videos of Thai's teaching English to Thai's and the students are bombarded with an enormous amount of formal grammar concepts. I can tell you now very few native English speakers understand what those grammar terms mean. I went to Thailand a couple of times (about 8 years ago) and I there were people who spoke excellent English, not just people that work in the hospitality industry either. I was really impressed. By the same token some of the younger people I met, who obviously learnt English at school, only knew a few words. From my own language learning experience I found watching movies and TV programs an excellent way to find common words and phrases. The only problem is you have to spend a lot of time trying to understand what is being said and then translate the meaning.
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