The Graduate is also an allegory about how the confining atmosphere of the 1950s led to the blind rebellion of the 1960s. And unlike most romances at the time, as Doug said, it shows the mistakes that both sides made and what it can lead to: an empty, regret-filled future.
Exactly. Well said. Pointless rebellion leads nowhere. The more conservative parents try to continue their traditions, but the baby boomers rebel in every way possible.
"Tom believed that he would never be happy until he found true love. This belief came from an early exposure to sad British pop music, and a total misreading of the ending of The Graduate."
I heard the ending lingers because the director was out that day. The guy that filled in forgot to say "cut" after the two are smiling. When the director saw this, he loved it too much to edit it out.
I saw this movie when I was 16 in a film class. I always felt like it was a story of people indulging in freedoms they didn't have and having to deal with the consequences, almost like a cautionary tale. the ending always felt sad to me, like no one "wins". every one ends up feeling unsure, raw, and still trapped in some way.
People want to be with people they want to be with. And want to do things they want to do. However admirers and crushes. Mind and body, and the actual situation reality. People try to find themselfs and even me as though I'm unsure and I bet even when I get older as I am human be unsure still but think.of people who I wanted to be with or things. My dad used to tell me this often, but i just couldn't give an answer becouse i know what he is saying. And it's kinda frustrating, but it is the point. We do think of people, we do think of things and we do our best. Being unsure, I mean I can be sure of what I want in life only it's their not there or it's just things in the way or how it is. So your mind trys to find something else along the way.
Probably to be the biggest troll ever and fuck with the audience, or maybe to be remembered, because a puzzleing ending is one way to avoid being forgotten
all i know is when i first saw it i immediately went 'well yep those faces are definitely fitting, i mean they're really young and they've done all this stupid stuff..theyre realising doing this might not be the best option' so yh im surprised other ppl weren't that observant of all of that
Just found out the other day that the end to this movie was only filmed like that because the director forgot to yell cut. It was supposed to be a happy ending, but the actors were just kind of left there wondering what they were supposed to be doing.
I didn't do a whole lot of in-depth fact checking, but I read about it in this Cracked article: www.cracked.com/article_24010_6-classic-movie-moments-made-possible-by-dumb-mistakes_p2.html They had some quotes from an interview with the director's wife about it
I think you kept forgetting that the Ben and Elaine's parents in this movie were long-time friends and therefore Ben and Elaine knew each other through their whole lives. This wasn't first time they saw each other even it might have been their first date in the movie. But good point on being rebellious for the sake of just getting back at their parents and not because they wanted to do something rebellious because it's what they really wanted to do. Who knows what happens later on; I for one don't care much, but I think it didn't end good eventually.
I always thought it was a sad ending, the hype of the relationship finished when the drama ended and they were only left with each other but besides the drama they knew nothing about each other
The Mad Magazine version of THE GRADUATE has a great closing line. It starts with Elaine planning their entire married life while they're still on that bus, a very conformist married life, and Benjamin looking worried about that. Benjamin: Oh, mother! Elaine: We're together five minutes and you miss your mother already? Benjamin: No, I miss YOUR mother already. In some way, that take on the ending makes perfect sense to me!
+Liam Timmerman Movies with endings like this make you THINK! When you question why a film ends a certain way in such a subtle manner, you've succeeded. If people come away with different interpretations, it means your ending has layers to it. Seriously, alot of movies can learn to be less straightforward with their endings these days.
but thats the Nostalgia Critic not Doug. he is a scripted character persona. Doug is an actual person on the spot if he did not collect his thoughts and opinions
Vin Sama Yes, but a mind that can analyze movies this way should be able to come up with ideas about 11 minute long stories, even if it is on the spot, which it doesn't have to be. I assume that at least a few minutes go by between them watching the episode and them starting the Vlog. In the Vlogs he comes across like someone who isn't even aware that there might be something to analyze while his buddy Jason (or what his name is) can do it.
TrangleC by your reasoning my friends and i should also be able to analyze without lpss for words but sometimes we cant. We cabt always analyze it perfectly and when its a vlog and have other friends sometimes you lost your train of thought cuz at one point your going somewhere but then you and your friend remembers something or are reminded of something and then you lose your track. Of its NC, a scripted character, then of course i expect well structured analysis. But if its Doug, a person with either no script or has notes with his friends then i cangive more leeway cuz hey he is only human
Vin Sama Dude, all I'm saying is that unless someone else is writing those analysis for the NC, he is capable of doing it and that is why it is weird that in the Vlogs Jason has to basically always do it alone. No need to go into "Fan defend mode".
+TrangleC Actually... these movies he has done very heavy research and from the behind the scenes he watchrd the movie 2 or 3 times and is nore critical and looks for jokes each time. Adventure tome the episode ends, he doesn't sleep on it, he goes straight into review, so hasn't had as much time to process it.
Ayyyyyy! I read that in school, not bad. Especially when you're reading Go Set a Watchman at the same time while also playing Bioshock Infinite. Lovely thematic contrast right there.
When I watched the ending, it immediately struck as though thre was something very wrong, and I asumed that was what I was intended to take from it. But then talking to my parents about it, they didn't really seem to think there was anything about it, and i couldn't believe it. I really like your interpretation!
I always saw it as their confusion over what the world/their parents wanted AND what they perceive as love/romance. Ben doesn't know what he wants. Rebellion is part of it, but I think misguided lust masquerading as love is more the culprit. He puts his emotional energy into Mrs Robinson while he comes home to absolute boredom and his terrible parents. Mrs. is an escape. When he sees Elaine, he transfers that energy to her, because Mrs. Robinson suddenly becomes more like his parents. He wants to be a knight in shining armor, but he's a little too self absorbed. Crashing the wedding is a way of saving her and getting what he wants to. The ending is a perfect picture of youthful disappointment when our plans don't work out, even though we put so much energy into it.
I think the ending is less about plans NOT working out than it is about how disappointing it can be when we get exactly what we THINK we want and it turns out we didn't want it at all. you know, like a Transformers movie.
I think someone forgot to yell cut at the end, and they left the extra footage so morons like you will waste time worrying about the ending of a movie.
+Ryan “Acidhedz” Murphy ...You DO realize that, even back in those days, flims had to be edited throughly? Meaning, the fact that the scene being left in if that was the case, either means someone did a piss poor job, or there's actual, ya know, IMPORTANCE to the scene?!
Silent Insanity Yes, because accidents are always important. There is no way at all they left it in because they knew it would cause people to start looking for "deep" meanings in the entire movie. Because what film buffs really love the most, are vacuous movies that leave lots of room for filling in the blanks and theorizing. Because then they get to think they figured out something and that makes them feel clever. Of course... they aren't, it's just a movie. The only thing you can figure out watching a movie, is what the people behind it were thinking when they made it. To wit, who fucking cares?
Ryan Murphy - Wow. You are just flat-out fucking wrong about that. Not that I'm trying to pick a fight. Agree to disagree and all that. The entire idea of Art (Literature, film, painting, sculpture or whatever) is that Art communicates meaning and encourages us to think about things in a way we don't normally get to do in our everyday lives. If it were all just "pretty stuff to look at" we wouldn't build museums and allow generations of people to make their CAREERS studying the artistic works of both the past and the present. We wouldn't have PRESERVED books or paintings for hundreds of years so that future generations can admire it and learn about it. Culture man, Culture. It's real. And it's everywhere.
*I haven’t even seen the movie, but just when Critic was telling the plot, I just clocked it and got it. I feel exactly the way critic does. Pretty simple tbf.*
the director said that a friend filmed that scene and he forgot to say cut and the actors just sat there waiting. when the director looked at the days footage during edits he just thought the ending was awsome, so it was kind of a accident.
Never thought of it that way, honestly. I just thought that seeing how it was based on a book, the relationship with the daughter might be explored more there.
I've never seen the Graduate but, just like in his editorial of Eyes Wide Shut, Doug proves that he can give a perspective on a movie that many people may not have considered but actually makes perfect sense when you look at the film as a whole.
I remember the first time I saw the movie (and its ending), I noticed on the bus ride that Ben never looked at Elaine, though she looked at him twice (if I remember it correctly). That did bother me, making me think that he wasn't interested in Elaine to begin with (It is possible it just struck him that they boarded a bus without knowing where it's going?). Elaine's looks at Ben did symbolize her interest in him, if running away from her own wedding AFTER she was married was not a good enough indicator.
I have to write an essay comparing these characters to the ones in Catcher in the Rye. This actually seriously helps me. I've been subscribed for a few years now and somehow never found this. But I found it at just the right time. Thank you for the insight.
I always thought the ending was like how you feel after finally arriving. Peace. Silence. When the mind finally takes a break from the constant buzz. Content. Freedom.
Critic, that scene happened by accident, a guy who was directing the scene forgot to yell CUT! and what you see is two actors awkwardly waiting for the scene to be over
Honestly I felt the ending was a "What now?" I mean, our two leads aren't really old enough to know. Young people really only have media as guidelines for romance. So when they DO ride of into the sunset they don't really know what to do. As the adrenaline wears of they realize that it doesn't just end for them. They have to make a life for themselves. Yeah it's a little cheesy but sometimes cheesy is good. I like to think Elaine became the first woman to wear a leather jacket. Cause the first thing they probably did was get her out of her wedding dress.
I’m old enough to say I saw this movie when it first was shown and loved it. My mom and dad saw it and my mom swore she’d never watch Anne Bancroft again! Lol!
The Sound of Silence might be considered what's called a Leitmotif. It's a very important word for a critic to know, so I offer it to you freely. :) The ending of the movie, by the way, was totally an accident. Look it up: It's true--the director of the scene forgot to yell cut. The result is that you had the opportunity to see what happens after "Happily ever after." Personally, I don't think I see a sad ending or a good ending--I think I see a lot more of a mix. Like, rather than seeing them realise that they made a horrible mistake, I think I see instead their doubt and their insecurities about the future. Like, "Okay, now what . . . ?" Their lives still lack direction, and while they may love each other (my interpretation is that they DO love each other) there's still so much uncertainty ahead of them. Maybe they're worried that their love won't be enough etc. Anyway, just some thought for food.
I watched this movie as part of my Intro to Film Studies class in the second half of my senior year of college. It had a similar, if not worse, effect as waiting until my senior year of high school to watch Toy Story 3: it hit WAY too close to home. In this case, I'm completely on board with Doug's interpretation of the ending. Heck, except for a few lines here and there, I...I have a hard time seeing this as a comedy. Those who do, though, and who see the ending as an uplifting one, major props to you, for you are able to see something I want to see but am unable to.
I just saw this film, I'm 23 and I didn't find this movie that "comedic" because I found the protagonist and his struggles VERY relatable and I took it seriously. Who knows, maybe when I'll be older I'll see myself more as Mrs Robinson. Great film, I see why it's considered a classic, and I had the same impression about the ending and the use of Sound of Silence.
I like to imagine that in that moment they are both wondering, 'what now?' And maybe they're suddenly realizing that they're both adults now and are going to have to accept the consequences of their own actions. A very big part of being an adult is doing the things you need to rather than the things you want to. Maybe they were beginning to understand they would have to make some difficult choices and none of them would be ideal.
Mike Nichols often remarked about how Ben and Elaine in the final scene looked frightened and confused after their initial elation over escaping on the bus. Yet during an appearance on Inside the Actors Studio (1994), he said the looks on their faces were due to being nervous and scared after he shouted at them to laugh during the scene. He liked it so much, he decided to keep the cameras rolling and cut it into the final movie.
There was a stand in director for the final scene. He was inexperienced and forgot to yell cut, so the shot lingered on the two for longer than it should have. The expressions that you see are the genuine reactions of the actors who don't know what they are supposed to be doing and why the scene is draggin on.
Hey Doug I'm a high schooler who was recently in a film class this year and one of the movies we watched in particular this year was The Graduate. Once the movie ended my teacher brought the ending of the film to attention to the class and the explanation he had for Elaine and Ben's blank stares on the bus is that, the movie was suppose to end once they got on the bus but the director, Mike Nichols kept filming and their faces were to give off the effect that they were asking themselves, "What now?", they were thinking what does life have to offer them now that they're married and especially after the entire fiasco that happened.
Benjamin is very goal-oriented, but once he achieves his goal, he shuts down. He doesn't really have anything to want. We hear about his marvelous achievements at college (which he graduates from early), but we see none of it as he as already shut down. Likely if Mrs. Robinson hadn't intervened, he would have created the new goal of graduate school. Instead, he created goals based on what came most recently after the completion of his previous goal. After discovering that Elaine has been removed from UCB, he drove from Berkeley, to Pasadena, to Berkeley, to Santa Barbara, (check a map; that is not a quick road trip) all because his goal happened to be to get Elaine. He does a huge amount of things to get to her, but shuts down as always once he reached that goal.
My senior year English teacher showed us this movie one day. At the end he said to us "The reason they stopped smiling in the end is because they realized they made a huge mistake and won't be happy together." I like to think that when the bus ride came to an end they both went their separate ways and either ended up with no one or with someone completely different.
I always interpreted their facial expressions as, "Now what?" They are likely going to be completely estranged from their parents. They are used to living in upper-middle class luxury and now will have to start from the bottom. Tiny historical footnote: I rode in that very bus while in college at Kent State in the early '70s. A number of buses, including the one used in The Graduate, were purchased by Kent State University's transportation department. There was a sign on THAT bus to the effect, "You are riding in a movie star! This bus was used in the filming of The Graduate with Dustin Hoffman and Katharine Ross." It was popular to sit back there and even a few couples were photographed in their wedding attire. My girlfriend and I sat in those exact seats, but that relationship didn't work out so maybe there is something to Nostalgia Critic's take on this scene.
One thing that's different though, is that neither of the characters are stuck with their ending. The two ran away, yes, but they have no obligation to remain with each other if they come to the realization that they aren't happy with one another and can go off on their own to find what actually makes them happy.
Excellent analogy. I think you're very right about the ending. It makes sense. First I was thinking Elaine's look was "omg...I just made a huge mistake..." then again though, she and Benjamin rushed into things before making any decisions. The ending of The Graduate always bothered me just because I wasn't sure whether it was a happy ending or not due to the uncertain face on Elaine.
It's too bad nobody wrote an article about how films are edited, since that seems to be the only information you're capable of retaining. Yes, the shot went over as a result of someone not yelling cut. But, you know, movies aren't done in one shot and just get shipped out. If it was just a mistake, they could have edited out the extra length of the take and had it end on a happier note. Heck, based on the article that you so vehemently point to, it sounds like that's exactly what they did as it sounds like the take went on far longer than what we see. The fact that they edited it the way they did, and chose to go with the ending, even if it was originally a filming mistake, goes to show that they really thought about what they were trying to want to portray. If it was all just a mistake like you keep insisting, they would have just done a second take.
+Paul G. If you think about it, it could of been a mistake that turned into gold. Now I don't know if this is true about the director forgetting to tell cut but If this was true, then they never edited out because they realized that what they accidentally shot was truly amazing and showed that love at first sight was never true. Because of this scene people will not stop talking about this and made so many theories. So point is, is that the director never edited out because he knew this ending would be better that the typical happy love ending. But hey that's just my theory.
"fighting too quickly for your freedom can result in making your prision bars even stronger"
Excelent video nostalgia critic!
Emiliano Laprida
He literally just said it as soon as I read this lol
I would use the word thoughtlessly over quickly.
@@alice-in-wonderland5900 Same, wtfff
In other more harsh words; dont resist or you get kicked harder
Quite true.
This is why children raised in over-protective or controlling households tend to get into more trouble when they are older.
The Graduate is also an allegory about how the confining atmosphere of the 1950s led to the blind rebellion of the 1960s.
And unlike most romances at the time, as Doug said, it shows the mistakes that both sides made and what it can lead to: an empty, regret-filled future.
Exactly. Well said. Pointless rebellion leads nowhere. The more conservative parents try to continue their traditions, but the baby boomers rebel in every way possible.
+Keith Michael Yeah, and it only made everything worse...
It's actually kind of scary how prophetic this film was.
Skeptical Baby Indeed that look on their face at the end of the movie is priceless it seems to say “what are the consequences of what we’ve just done”
"Tom believed that he would never be happy until he found true love. This belief came from an early exposure to sad British pop music, and a total misreading of the ending of The Graduate."
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genius
Gravitynaut 500 days of summer is one the best movies of all time
Oh Tom *sigh*.... you poor bastard
I feel like it's joyous and then melancholy. They're hopeful, but also unsure about where to go from there
I heard the ending lingers because the director was out that day. The guy that filled in forgot to say "cut" after the two are smiling. When the director saw this, he loved it too much to edit it out.
kelly beck "grabs abeer" fuckin people
kelly beck it's actually a better ending
It’s still a better ending
Where did you hear that from?
~:~
That would be very interesting, but I’m skeptical that the director would just be “out”
I saw this movie when I was 16 in a film class. I always felt like it was a story of people indulging in freedoms they didn't have and having to deal with the consequences, almost like a cautionary tale. the ending always felt sad to me, like no one "wins". every one ends up feeling unsure, raw, and still trapped in some way.
People want to be with people they want to be with. And want to do things they want to do. However admirers and crushes. Mind and body, and the actual situation reality. People try to find themselfs and even me as though I'm unsure and I bet even when I get older as I am human be unsure still but think.of people who I wanted to be with or things. My dad used to tell me this often, but i just couldn't give an answer becouse i know what he is saying. And it's kinda frustrating, but it is the point. We do think of people, we do think of things and we do our best. Being unsure, I mean I can be sure of what I want in life only it's their not there or it's just things in the way or how it is. So your mind trys to find something else along the way.
Wait, people actually thought that was a happy ending?
It was meant to be...Lol. I heard that the director forgot to yell CUT!!! So in post, when they could've edited it out, the director left it in. Haha
Probably to be the biggest troll ever and fuck with the audience, or maybe to be remembered, because a puzzleing ending is one way to avoid being forgotten
It was. It was in the script. But the director forgot to yell cut after they filmed the scene.
all i know is when i first saw it i immediately went 'well yep those faces are definitely fitting, i mean they're really young and they've done all this stupid stuff..theyre realising doing this might not be the best option' so yh im surprised other ppl weren't that observant of all of that
Nope, but it was the perfect ending.
Just found out the other day that the end to this movie was only filmed like that because the director forgot to yell cut. It was supposed to be a happy ending, but the actors were just kind of left there wondering what they were supposed to be doing.
Is that true ????
I didn't do a whole lot of in-depth fact checking, but I read about it in this Cracked article: www.cracked.com/article_24010_6-classic-movie-moments-made-possible-by-dumb-mistakes_p2.html
They had some quotes from an interview with the director's wife about it
Holy shit!
I checked... Wasn't the director, it was the guy filling in that day. But the director liked it so much, that he left it in.
No, lol. They could've cut it in post if that was the case.
I think you kept forgetting that the Ben and Elaine's parents in this movie were long-time friends and therefore Ben and Elaine knew each other through their whole lives. This wasn't first time they saw each other even it might have been their first date in the movie. But good point on being rebellious for the sake of just getting back at their parents and not because they wanted to do something rebellious because it's what they really wanted to do. Who knows what happens later on; I for one don't care much, but I think it didn't end good eventually.
Agreed
Actually, the Sound of Silence background music means he is pondering how bad Batman v Superman was.
I understood that reference
+Alonso Arana I understood that reference
+Jkop are we like best friends now?
+Alonso Arana is your mom named Martha?
+Jkop MARTHA!
I always thought it was a sad ending, the hype of the relationship finished when the drama ended and they were only left with each other but besides the drama they knew nothing about each other
The end is one of the few iconic moments in cinema history that gives me goosebumps when I see it.
Huh? Haven’t seen many movies have you
The Mad Magazine version of THE GRADUATE has a great closing line. It starts with Elaine planning their entire married life while they're still on that bus, a very conformist married life, and Benjamin looking worried about that.
Benjamin: Oh, mother!
Elaine: We're together five minutes and you miss your mother already?
Benjamin: No, I miss YOUR mother already.
In some way, that take on the ending makes perfect sense to me!
That’s funny and clever.
Wait movies can be clever without exposition monologues, explosions, forced analogy and products placements?
I think the sounds of silence is emotionally ruined for me because of sad affleck
+Liam Timmerman Movies with endings like this make you THINK! When you question why a film ends a certain way in such a subtle manner, you've succeeded. If people come away with different interpretations, it means your ending has layers to it. Seriously, alot of movies can learn to be less straightforward with their endings these days.
YEAH! HOW DARE THEY MAKE US THINK! SUBTLETY IS FOR LOSERS WHO HAVE NO LIFE!
Are you by chance a big fan of Michael Bay? Sure sounds like it.
Ryan Murphy Jesus Christ calm down
A bit strange how Doug can analyze the shit out of movies, but always seems at a loss for words in the Adventure Time Vlogs.
but thats the Nostalgia Critic not Doug. he is a scripted character persona. Doug is an actual person on the spot if he did not collect his thoughts and opinions
Vin Sama
Yes, but a mind that can analyze movies this way should be able to come up with ideas about 11 minute long stories, even if it is on the spot, which it doesn't have to be. I assume that at least a few minutes go by between them watching the episode and them starting the Vlog.
In the Vlogs he comes across like someone who isn't even aware that there might be something to analyze while his buddy Jason (or what his name is) can do it.
TrangleC by your reasoning my friends and i should also be able to analyze without lpss for words but sometimes we cant. We cabt always analyze it perfectly and when its a vlog and have other friends sometimes you lost your train of thought cuz at one point your going somewhere but then you and your friend remembers something or are reminded of something and then you lose your track. Of its NC, a scripted character, then of course i expect well structured analysis. But if its Doug, a person with either no script or has notes with his friends then i cangive more leeway cuz hey he is only human
Vin Sama
Dude, all I'm saying is that unless someone else is writing those analysis for the NC, he is capable of doing it and that is why it is weird that in the Vlogs Jason has to basically always do it alone.
No need to go into "Fan defend mode".
+TrangleC Actually... these movies he has done very heavy research and from the behind the scenes he watchrd the movie 2 or 3 times and is nore critical and looks for jokes each time. Adventure tome the episode ends, he doesn't sleep on it, he goes straight into review, so hasn't had as much time to process it.
You hit the nail right on the head with this one. You explained everything that I've ever felt about this film, and why it is so brilliant. THANK YOU.
Didn't know Doug likes doing his impression of a southern lawyer. Third time I saw him do so, but I'm cool with it.
+Sneaky Pete Lol Atticus annoys me
Ayyyyyy! I read that in school, not bad. Especially when you're reading Go Set a Watchman at the same time while also playing Bioshock Infinite. Lovely thematic contrast right there.
When I watched the ending, it immediately struck as though thre was something very wrong, and I asumed that was what I was intended to take from it. But then talking to my parents about it, they didn't really seem to think there was anything about it, and i couldn't believe it. I really like your interpretation!
What is the piano music in the background
I always saw it as their confusion over what the world/their parents wanted AND what they perceive as love/romance. Ben doesn't know what he wants. Rebellion is part of it, but I think misguided lust masquerading as love is more the culprit. He puts his emotional energy into Mrs Robinson while he comes home to absolute boredom and his terrible parents. Mrs. is an escape. When he sees Elaine, he transfers that energy to her, because Mrs. Robinson suddenly becomes more like his parents. He wants to be a knight in shining armor, but he's a little too self absorbed. Crashing the wedding is a way of saving her and getting what he wants to. The ending is a perfect picture of youthful disappointment when our plans don't work out, even though we put so much energy into it.
I think the ending is less about plans NOT working out than it is about how disappointing it can be when we get exactly what we THINK we want and it turns out we didn't want it at all.
you know, like a Transformers movie.
I think someone forgot to yell cut at the end, and they left the extra footage so morons like you will waste time worrying about the ending of a movie.
+Ryan “Acidhedz” Murphy ...You DO realize that, even back in those days, flims had to be edited throughly? Meaning, the fact that the scene being left in if that was the case, either means someone did a piss poor job, or there's actual, ya know, IMPORTANCE to the scene?!
Silent Insanity Yes, because accidents are always important.
There is no way at all they left it in because they knew it would cause people to start looking for "deep" meanings in the entire movie.
Because what film buffs really love the most, are vacuous movies that leave lots of room for filling in the blanks and theorizing. Because then they get to think they figured out something and that makes them feel clever.
Of course... they aren't, it's just a movie. The only thing you can figure out watching a movie, is what the people behind it were thinking when they made it. To wit, who fucking cares?
Ryan Murphy - Wow. You are just flat-out fucking wrong about that. Not that I'm trying to pick a fight. Agree to disagree and all that.
The entire idea of Art (Literature, film, painting, sculpture or whatever) is that Art communicates meaning and encourages us to think about things in a way we don't normally get to do in our everyday lives. If it were all just "pretty stuff to look at" we wouldn't build museums and allow generations of people to make their CAREERS studying the artistic works of both the past and the present. We wouldn't have PRESERVED books or paintings for hundreds of years so that future generations can admire it and learn about it.
Culture man, Culture. It's real. And it's everywhere.
Hehe. So THAT'S what the Simpsons were referencing...
Tom Evans Only talking about the Simpsons, bud.
Everything is the Simpsons, guy.
HellRay 4:20 AM! :P
I just realised that too. XD "Hello Grandpa, my old frieeeend..."
And Daria.
*I haven’t even seen the movie, but just when Critic was telling the plot, I just clocked it and got it. I feel exactly the way critic does. Pretty simple tbf.*
I personally LOVED the ending. One of my farvourites of all time
I love ambiguous endings in movies a lot! It makes me watch films over and over again!
"Critics are supposed to offer a point of view that you've never concidered before"
You sure as hell have done a pretty good job as a critic :)
What's the music in the background?
the director said that a friend filmed that scene and he forgot to say cut and the actors just sat there waiting. when the director looked at the days footage during edits he just thought the ending was awsome, so it was kind of a accident.
Never thought of it that way, honestly. I just thought that seeing how it was based on a book, the relationship with the daughter might be explored more there.
What's the background music? It's very nice.
The ending of the film was actually a directors mistake, he forgot to say cut. The actors didn't know what to do so they just stared awkwardly
Yeah, but they could have cut it in post.
Fantastic review, possibly the most coherent and well written analysis you've done. Keep it up Critic!
Funnily enough, I've seen a lot of the NC reviews (although not all of them), and I was thinking something similar.
Just gonna put this out there: as much as I like Dougs reviews, especially his snide nicknames, his editorials are spectacular
background music gives me the chills.
I've never seen the Graduate but, just like in his editorial of Eyes Wide Shut, Doug proves that he can give a perspective on a movie that many people may not have considered but actually makes perfect sense when you look at the film as a whole.
I read something about why the end scene exists. The real reason is the director forgot to yell cut, and the actors refused to break character.
Yeah but they still left it in the movie for a reason. They could have cut it out but they didn't.
Yeah they realized how much their expressions added to the film and loved it so much they kept it in. Funny how a mistake can lead to gold.
+injaRed5000 exactly
I remember the first time I saw the movie (and its ending), I noticed on the bus ride that Ben never looked at Elaine, though she looked at him twice (if I remember it correctly). That did bother me, making me think that he wasn't interested in Elaine to begin with (It is possible it just struck him that they boarded a bus without knowing where it's going?).
Elaine's looks at Ben did symbolize her interest in him, if running away from her own wedding AFTER she was married was not a good enough indicator.
I have to write an essay comparing these characters to the ones in Catcher in the Rye.
This actually seriously helps me. I've been subscribed for a few years now and somehow never found this. But I found it at just the right time. Thank you for the insight.
Name of music? I've been searching for ages!
whats the music playing in the background during this editorial?? anybody know?
I love how he includes a clip from Rain Man (1988) at the end.
I always thought the ending was like how you feel after finally arriving. Peace. Silence. When the mind finally takes a break from the constant buzz. Content. Freedom.
So basically they were both huge Edgelords? "NO MOM YOU DONT GET IT" *does opposite of thing*
I never really had a rebellie face. I've become more of a loner, but I always kind of was. Sure, I argued, not not much more then when I was a kid.
Critic, that scene happened by accident, a guy who was directing the scene forgot to yell CUT! and what you see is two actors awkwardly waiting for the scene to be over
Well, whether or not it was intended, the meaning is still there.
+icemario19 They could have edited it out. The director just liked it a lot and left it in.
Well, he doesn't read the comments
The director still kept it in, though. So he probably thought it'd be good to add this part in to be "extra artsy" or something.
Could someone confirm whether this is a joke or for real? o.O
What is the music that plays through this video?
anyone know where the background song comes from?
im... so... sorry...
DaRuDe SaNdStOrM
+Noman Chaudhry you are just the worst kind of person.
+Noman Chaudhry SHAME! SHAAAAAAME!
Just gonna wait here till someone figures it out
It was from musicloops.com, but i believe it has been taken off the site a while ago.
Wow this was the kind of insight I'd normally expect from Clint at CineFix. I love it when Doug is smart.
Honestly I felt the ending was a "What now?" I mean, our two leads aren't really old enough to know. Young people really only have media as guidelines for romance. So when they DO ride of into the sunset they don't really know what to do. As the adrenaline wears of they realize that it doesn't just end for them. They have to make a life for themselves. Yeah it's a little cheesy but sometimes cheesy is good. I like to think Elaine became the first woman to wear a leather jacket. Cause the first thing they probably did was get her out of her wedding dress.
I’m old enough to say I saw this movie when it first was shown and loved it. My mom and dad saw it and my mom swore she’d never watch Anne Bancroft again! Lol!
The Sound of Silence might be considered what's called a Leitmotif. It's a very important word for a critic to know, so I offer it to you freely. :)
The ending of the movie, by the way, was totally an accident. Look it up: It's true--the director of the scene forgot to yell cut. The result is that you had the opportunity to see what happens after "Happily ever after." Personally, I don't think I see a sad ending or a good ending--I think I see a lot more of a mix. Like, rather than seeing them realise that they made a horrible mistake, I think I see instead their doubt and their insecurities about the future. Like, "Okay, now what . . . ?" Their lives still lack direction, and while they may love each other (my interpretation is that they DO love each other) there's still so much uncertainty ahead of them. Maybe they're worried that their love won't be enough etc.
Anyway, just some thought for food.
When does the review for spy kids 4 come out?
He's doing that? Yay!
It's Spy Kids 3 he's doing, not 4.
+BioniclesaurKing4t2 he should also do the 4th one after this because it's way worse.
+Talha Mansoor
I'd love for him to do the 4th one, that way I wouldn't have to actually watch it to know why I was right to not watch it.
What's the music in the background of this editorial?
BanditCorperated wants you to make a final line for his Revenge of the Sith reboot for his video. Please do it!!
Like so he sees.
+Hunt i was just about to comment about that
(Its BanditIncorperated btw)
Yeaahhhh Bandit!
So.....did someone figured out the name of the background music from this video?
I guess divorce doesn't really exist in this movie's world
Not among self-absorbed people who want to maintain their public image status over their own happiness, I'd imagine not.
+BioniclesaurKing4t2 happiness isn't measured by social status
This movie came out in 1967. Divorce was still too scandalous then to be a real option
+ReppeNThA707 that's what he was implying. People won't divorce for the sake of their social status even if it means they will be happy.
Sadly, yes. It hapend a lot
I watched this movie as part of my Intro to Film Studies class in the second half of my senior year of college. It had a similar, if not worse, effect as waiting until my senior year of high school to watch Toy Story 3: it hit WAY too close to home. In this case, I'm completely on board with Doug's interpretation of the ending. Heck, except for a few lines here and there, I...I have a hard time seeing this as a comedy. Those who do, though, and who see the ending as an uplifting one, major props to you, for you are able to see something I want to see but am unable to.
Nostalgia Critic - Evil Dead
+Bruno Santos Original or Reboot?
Better yet. An Old vs New of Evil Dead
Any of them
***** I agree
Old wins...
just from the blue background, you can tell that this is a original critic.
In 8 minutes, Doug taught me more about this movie than the month we studied it in high school literature.
What is this nice piano music in the background?
song in the background?
Thank you, Critic - you should put out more videos like this. People should be able to think and get more out from films.
I just finished the movie and I gotta say: the Sound of Silence has never been used so perfectly before
I just saw this film, I'm 23 and I didn't find this movie that "comedic" because I found the protagonist and his struggles VERY relatable and I took it seriously. Who knows, maybe when I'll be older I'll see myself more as Mrs Robinson. Great film, I see why it's considered a classic, and I had the same impression about the ending and the use of Sound of Silence.
I like to imagine that in that moment they are both wondering, 'what now?' And maybe they're suddenly realizing that they're both adults now and are going to have to accept the consequences of their own actions. A very big part of being an adult is doing the things you need to rather than the things you want to. Maybe they were beginning to understand they would have to make some difficult choices and none of them would be ideal.
Nostalgia Critic and AVGN are more than UA-camrs, they are both intelligent guy who alway have great supporting point when they discussing a subject
Mike Nichols often remarked about how Ben and Elaine in the final scene looked frightened and confused after their initial elation over escaping on the bus. Yet during an appearance on Inside the Actors Studio (1994), he said the looks on their faces were due to being nervous and scared after he shouted at them to laugh during the scene. He liked it so much, he decided to keep the cameras rolling and cut it into the final movie.
Correct. Not a lot of people know this. What you're seeing on the actors' faces is two things: great acting AND genuine fear.
What is the music in the background?
This film is wonderful. It's also one of the most beautifully photographed films of the 60s, along with Midnight Cowboy, 2001
There was a stand in director for the final scene. He was inexperienced and forgot to yell cut, so the shot lingered on the two for longer than it should have. The expressions that you see are the genuine reactions of the actors who don't know what they are supposed to be doing and why the scene is draggin on.
Hey Doug I'm a high schooler who was recently in a film class this year and one of the movies we watched in particular this year was The Graduate. Once the movie ended my teacher brought the ending of the film to attention to the class and the explanation he had for Elaine and Ben's blank stares on the bus is that, the movie was suppose to end once they got on the bus but the director, Mike Nichols kept filming and their faces were to give off the effect that they were asking themselves, "What now?", they were thinking what does life have to offer them now that they're married and especially after the entire fiasco that happened.
How did you come up with the conclusion that Ben and Elaine were married?
Benjamin is very goal-oriented, but once he achieves his goal, he shuts down. He doesn't really have anything to want. We hear about his marvelous achievements at college (which he graduates from early), but we see none of it as he as already shut down. Likely if Mrs. Robinson hadn't intervened, he would have created the new goal of graduate school. Instead, he created goals based on what came most recently after the completion of his previous goal. After discovering that Elaine has been removed from UCB, he drove from Berkeley, to Pasadena, to Berkeley, to Santa Barbara, (check a map; that is not a quick road trip) all because his goal happened to be to get Elaine. He does a huge amount of things to get to her, but shuts down as always once he reached that goal.
I never watched this movie, but this video was quite a lesson for me. It meant a lot. Thank you, Critic.
What song is playing in your back ground
This video seriously resonates with me.
My senior year English teacher showed us this movie one day. At the end he said to us "The reason they stopped smiling in the end is because they realized they made a huge mistake and won't be happy together." I like to think that when the bus ride came to an end they both went their separate ways and either ended up with no one or with someone completely different.
I always interpreted their facial expressions as, "Now what?"
They are likely going to be completely estranged from their parents. They are used to living in upper-middle class luxury and now will have to start from the bottom.
Tiny historical footnote:
I rode in that very bus while in college at Kent State in the early '70s. A number of buses, including the one used in The Graduate, were purchased by Kent State University's transportation department. There was a sign on THAT bus to the effect, "You are riding in a movie star! This bus was used in the filming of The Graduate with Dustin Hoffman and Katharine Ross."
It was popular to sit back there and even a few couples were photographed in their wedding attire. My girlfriend and I sat in those exact seats, but that relationship didn't work out so maybe there is something to Nostalgia Critic's take on this scene.
the disturbed cove of sound of silence is amazing.
I saw this movie in high school and the ending left me very confused. Great video
One thing that's different though, is that neither of the characters are stuck with their ending. The two ran away, yes, but they have no obligation to remain with each other if they come to the realization that they aren't happy with one another and can go off on their own to find what actually makes them happy.
Very philosophical Doug!
What's The Name of The Music of Background of This Video?
This film is so complex and meaningful, love it
The ending is up to the audience to decide which makes it that much better. A film should be a work of art, which is what this is!
Damn man, watching this makes you sound like a god damn philosopher.
A great thought about the sign! Has anyone ever notice it takes a long time for him to see anyone his age?????
MY GOD ITS ROMEO AND JULIET
Excellent analogy. I think you're very right about the ending. It makes sense. First I was thinking Elaine's look was "omg...I just made a huge mistake..." then again though, she and Benjamin rushed into things before making any decisions. The ending of The Graduate always bothered me just because I wasn't sure whether it was a happy ending or not due to the uncertain face on Elaine.
....is it bad that I've *never heard* of this film till now?
No.
yes
it is worth checking out. it is really funny and holds up 50 years later
It's surprising.
Only if you like movies.
The ending was shot by the film's editor instead of the director and he forgot to yell "cut." There's your answer.
Look up "6 on set mistakes that led to the greatest movie scenes ever" on Cracked.com.
+Qwerty Qwertyson Read the article.
+sanrock08 it's art. There's your answer.
It's too bad nobody wrote an article about how films are edited, since that seems to be the only information you're capable of retaining. Yes, the shot went over as a result of someone not yelling cut. But, you know, movies aren't done in one shot and just get shipped out. If it was just a mistake, they could have edited out the extra length of the take and had it end on a happier note. Heck, based on the article that you so vehemently point to, it sounds like that's exactly what they did as it sounds like the take went on far longer than what we see.
The fact that they edited it the way they did, and chose to go with the ending, even if it was originally a filming mistake, goes to show that they really thought about what they were trying to want to portray. If it was all just a mistake like you keep insisting, they would have just done a second take.
+Paul G. If you think about it, it could of been a mistake that turned into gold. Now I don't know if this is true about the director forgetting to tell cut but If this was true, then they never edited out because they realized that what they accidentally shot was truly amazing and showed that love at first sight was never true. Because of this scene people will not stop talking about this and made so many theories. So point is, is that the director never edited out because he knew this ending would be better that the typical happy love ending. But hey that's just my theory.
I just assumed it was a CIRCL of LIFE thing.. Thanks Doug for explaining it better ...
Wasn't Sound of Silence meant to be a place holder for the actual musical score? I think I remember reading that somewhere.
The ending shows what happens after the fact of this trope, it doesn't just end, you have to figure out what you're going to do next.
Holy shit that was deep
wow that was deep. That was great work Doug.....seriously
I have been asking this ever since I saw it in film class
Notice Ben's expression is the same as it was in the beginning of the film. Just that blank stare.
What is this song playing in the background?