The TOUGHEST Snowblower Ever Built 💪
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- Опубліковано 17 гру 2022
- In "The Snowblower That Wouldn't Die", Taryl goes over these old Toro S-200's and S-620's from the 1980s. Are they worth fixing? Because they surely keep popping up one after another and people want them fixed. So let's go over whether or not it's in your best interest and why to either scrap or fix these old snowblowers. So sit back and enjoy another funny, yet informative how-to video from your friends at Grass Rats Garage.
And as Taryl always says... There's Your Dinner!!
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My problem when it comes to the older stuff is I want to save them all, usually for little or no profit.
I just rescued a 1984 John Deere 111. I’ll end up having to pay someone to take it. 😂
Yep I feel the same
The franken mower needs love, where do you live?
Roommates ran it out of oil, it sat 5 years with water pouring on it, and the mower deck was from some other kind.
I cleaned it and used it for years but I think the noise and the rhythmic pop fart means it needs a teardown, and Terri Gar to elevate it.
West Texas near Colorado River and i20
I know how you feel, I'm in that boat 😂⛵
I guess this is a great example of the saying: they don't make em like they used to! Well done again Taryl and friends!
Years ago I bought an old fixer upper house that was an old Sears n roebuck house. I had a pro carpenter help me install windows n other things but one day I made the comment, "they don't make them like they used to"! He said thankfully not!!! Lol. Nothing in that house was square.... Lol
@@paulcondie2520 same my aunt bought a house from the 1960s and i kinda wish she didnt because ive had to fix a ton of problems on it
Around 1975 ish. I was using a Toro Snow Pup to shovel roofs. I got the job from an old guy here in Minneapolis to do his roof. Turned out to be the engineer that worked for toro that invented the sno-pup. He said the boss told him to invent a SELF EMPTYING SHOVEL. He showed me all the engineering drawings for that first machine. Said he eventually was the head engineer for toro corp in Bloomington mn. I was only 14 or 15 years old. Pretty cool machine
you are one of the best small engine service
The engines out of those make good scooter power. (stand up minibike style) As you stated, they are nearly unkillable unless you don't feed them the Dinosaur cocktail.
Thanks for the laughs. The first snow is on the way so I went out to my shed to fire up my S620. Still had old gas in it from last year and no stabilizer. A few pumps of the primer bulb and a shot of starting fluid and it fired right up. Someone gave it to me over 20 years ago because it had been sitting for years and wouldn't start. DIY carb (carbatraitor?) and fuel tank replacement and has been running since. Yeah, I have to replace the scrapper and the paddle blades every few years, but no big deal. People still give these away, usually not running condition, but if you find one, pick it up. My DIY tip is to cut an opening in the plastic cover behind the carb intake so you can easily blast in the start juice.
I have a S200 that I used for many years. Every year I had to repair the plastic cover and metal frame. I got tired of fixing it and bought a used 2008 in 2016 and fixed that one with new paddles and a scraper. I love your teaching.
You saved me yesterday, my Briggs and Scrapem v twin just wouldn't pop, no fuel. I tried like hell with the carb spray, and compressed air to no avail. I remember from one of your restoration episodes you said, if that little holey hole on the side of the pickup tube gets crusty, nothing will happen. Yanked it off and there it was, one poke with a sheet rock screw, ran like brand new! I even did your woo hoo dance. Thanks for giving your viewers good detailed information about equipment. Because of you I was able to get to work, without that machine, it would have been a nightmare.
They also made these for International Harvester, they had white plastics. My dad had one and cleared the blizzard of 78’ with it, good little machine.
I was 12 when that hit. Still remember the snow being over my head when we opened the garage door. My dad didn't have a snow blower he had me and my brother with snow shovels instead. The last of the snow didn't melt until May that year. Fond memories.
LOL the blizzard of '78 is putting it mildy! Those were some days, funny thing is people weren't as rotten to each other back then as today. Could you imagine that happening now?
I fished an ih and Toro out of a dumpster 4 or 5 yrs ago, the ih is a wall hanger and the Toro is my light snow go to
Ahhh, the Blizzard of '78. The perfect thing when you were only 11, not a care in the world and quite a few days out of school. Little did we know it had a crippling effect on the entire state and region. 🤷♂️
Both of these Toro's are definitely Snow Blowers!
With a Snow Thrower adapter fitted to both of them.
Had one these 620’s when I was a kid. But I worked in a small engine shop in the mid 90’s, I worked on a ton of these S-200 & 620’s.
love how taryl gets right down to the minutia in explaining how to fix these things - all things he works on ! great stuff !!
Toro f-series My favorite snowblower of all time, along with the craftsman clone. I put float bowl carb on with a homemade intake, took governor off. Pull the ex pipe and clean up the ex port and do the same with the intake port. Lots of power! Be careful on the 3hp version though, the connecting rod is not too strong and will grenade your 3hp if you rev it too much.
Love our s200. Picked it up for $20. Needed a few little things. Been using it for 15+ years now. Great for patios and decks. Nice and light little thing. Works surprisingly well for what it is.
Taryl, that reminds me of a very old joke,
Why was the snowman smiling? He seen the snowblower coming!🙄
I had an old Toro Snow Pup I got from a neighbor maybe in the early 1970s. You could not kill it. It got me through the New England Blizzard of '78 and was also used very hard to clear off a roof of a car dealership my dad worked at.
Just a FYI Taryl, the S620 does NOT have a 6HP Tecumseh 2 stroke. It has a Tecumseh AH600 2 stroke engine which is 3HP. They went from a AH520 (2HP) in the older models like a snowmaster 20 and a S200 to a AH600 (3HP) in the CR20 & S620
Love the Lancelot Link reference. I loved that show as a kid. I actually have an LP record called Lancelot Link and The Evolution Revolution.
I had one. S200 Toro Electric Start. It was just as you said. It wouldn't die. I lived in Cleveland, Ohio for 20 years and had one for six years. I replaced the paddles and scraper 4 times. Yes, I went to a #12 screw. After the second set of paddles, the holes stripped out. I had to replace one of the wheels too. I sold it for the same price I bought it. I wonder where it is now??? That was 12 years ago. It looked just like Skippy's. Now I have a 1992 Craftsman. It's an ez-start and an electric start. I'm getting to old to run it much. But, mine is the only one on our block. I run it out of gas every time I use it. Runs like a champ. I'm the second owner and it sat in a shed for 10 years before I got it. Great video! Thanks for the memories!
I've had several of those S200s. Threw snow great. I didn't think they were that hard to get running from season to season. Paddles and scraper bars still available online and easy to replace.
Had one of those for years. You can't kill them!!! Biggest complaint was bending over to aim the direction of the snow. Slotted an old (fat) oak broom handle and fitted it over the oval handle that you turn the fins with. 2 Bolts and nuts... thats not going anywhere. At the top I put a piece of 1/2 in flat metal in the vice and formed a semi circle with flanges and mounted it to the handle to hold the stick in place. Put a piece of wood cross ways on the top to make a "T" and it turned easily. No more bending over. Replaced the skid plate and rubber paddles. Still runs great. Wheels keep getting jammed with snow. Took them off and put 2 bigger wheels from an old lawn mower. Works great. Yeah. Think Red Green.
My dad bought our first snowblower/thrower in 1980, the S200 👍
Nice episode Taryl, thanks! Those old snowblowers are interesting.
I can understand why Taryl likes working on this old stuff it's a walk down memory lane for him back to the time when he was just a fresh faced rookie boy working for his older brother !
We bought our Dad a 620, when his conventional snow blower got too heavy for him to use-I would service it every year, and he loved it-thanks for these videos, guys-Merry Christmas!
That 6 horse would be a awesome mini bike engine
I couldn't get the primer for one so I got a different one and did your trick works great
Nice work Taryl! It's quite obvious that you know your way around these little units. Thanks for sharing!
Taryl, you were definitely right about tipping it backwards. I did it a minute ago. Instant blue smoke from the old fuel laying inside the bottom. It almost died then I put it back to upright. Then back down. I had to play with it a little, but now it runs fine. Even if I tip it straight back real fast and leave it there. They should have said something about that in the manual. I don't know why they didn't.. But thanks man. It's not putzing out on me anymore. Or flooding out.
Taryl, the ending sounded just like mine growing up, working on these things when I was 14 all the way up to now that I am 38!! The only thing is, I have one that I just got done fixing up for myself. If you have one of these, another "parts" unit is definitely needed!! Another thing....you are right.......these things just don't die!! I can't believe they are still around.
I found a white outdoor single stage with the 2 stroke Tecumseh from 1995 thrown to the curb, it does not have the vanes, it has the Shute that you crank over from side to side, cleaned the carburetor and replaced the belt and it runs and moves snow beautifully, simple and reliable 👍
I picked up a S-620 for $25 when visiting home (OH) last winter. Brought it back to north central NC and got it running with just a carb rebuild kit, tune and fresh gas. Perfect for this area which rarely gets any snow to speak of. This summer I picked up another S-620 here in NC for $20. Will get it going soon too and flip it the next time it snows. Was really impressed by how well the S-620 did after running a 2-stage Crapsman before we moved South. Good to know they are one of the old tried and true units that "can't be killed!"
Merry Christmas all.
I have a 1978 S200, and have spent many frustrating hours trying to keep it running. When it does run it does a great job. The plastic covers are cracked ,but I was able to reinforce them. We are just about ready to pitch it, but now that I've seen this I might just give it one last try to get it running again.I'll have to check out your carbetrater video thats where the problem ALWAYS is with this thing. Thanks Taryl.
Put a inline fuel filter between tank and carb. Should keep it clean after u clear it this last time.
I have one of these given to me last year. Worked well, saves the back! I just up graded to an Ariens 724.
As a youngster, I pushed around a small 2-stroke Lawn-Boy snow thrower. We had fun with it but it wasn’t very useful. These days I use a Stihl BR600 as a snowblower and a trusty old JD 626 as a snow thrower. Now there’s your lexical dinner ! Happy Holidays to all your crew !
Some of the best little snowthrowers ever made for sure. I have the Power-Lite CCR-E which is the smallest one, it has a 3 horse Tecumseh 3-stroke in it and shoots snow just as far as any of the others. It's so small you can pick it up with one hand, but man are these dangerous.
I can't tell you the amount of times I've almost leaned over to try and unclog it, or turned around for a second and the machine "walked away".
My personal favourite was the 2-stroke Power-Shovel, it was pretty much the same deal but in a "shovel" configuration. They only made those for a few years and they are pretty rare now. Funny thing is there was a really rare model that came with a loop shaped handle and wheel kit essentially turning it in to a regular snow-thrower. It was pretty heavy and not practical as a "shovel" at all, but man are they cool!
Hahaha...I KNEW Taryl was Gonna ruin that nylon gear on that starter...because I did the same thing....!!!
OMG, when you said Lancelot Link Secret Chimp. I was transported in time 😁
Merry Christmas 🎄 and thanks for all the great videos
That was one of the first snowblowers I ever worked on. Grandpa and my uncle both had one. Unless had a straw going into carb throat for starting fluid lol. Ran great! I was gifted both and sold both. Newer craftsman is much nicer. But I do miss those old toros!
I forgot to reattach the lower plastic cover on mine and I did melt the plastic. After it shredded the starter gear I tossed it in the dumpster because we never had enough snow to use it and it was always in my way. (southern Indiana) In the word of the famous interview, , , "ain't nobody got time for that"!! Thanks Taryl for the Toro info.
Love that happy dance of success
To you and yours, have a wonderful holiday season!!!
I had an old all metal clone of those from Montgomery ward's. That old two stroke single stage was the best snowblower I ever had. Always started and nothing to go wrong. I used to get to my big snowblower. So, I could screw around for half an hour in the cold getting the big one running. Or not.
I like these old Toros. Seems to be higher quality then a new cheap one. For a small driveway etc these are nice machines
I use a modern Toro single stage and love it. I also have a big Ariens with heated grips and all. It hasn't left my garage in years.
You guys are the greatest
Yall are killing it
Merry Christmas Taryl! Great video.
Thanks Taryl! I have an s-200 I got from Craigslist for abour$20 a few years ago. I got it running after I changed the fuel/oil mix.
Thank you sir for there important video and information.
Another great job Taryl!! Can't beat the old stuff! LOL!!
I have one along with a donor parts unit in the shed attic-love it! It’s my go to machine here in NE Ohio. The running unit hangs on the wall in the shed just like Tarayl suggests
That was a really great video. You are a GREAT teacher. Thanks
Bought a S-200 in 1985. It was NOS then and I'm still using it. That's 37 years of service. The red plastic is long gone, I had to pull it one time too many. The drum will eventually throw the paddles, the screws come loose when the holes strip. So, use larger screws. I am now using very large screws. The smokey exhaust gets on the belt and the belt slips. Use brake cleaner on the belt. As per the video, the handles break. I have one replacement in steel. I wish I had the other in steel.
I can't remember what they called it but my father-in-law, back then, had a less wide version of this machine with the same engine and was chain drive. That little machine was a tiger not afraid of deep plowed snow.
Hey Derrel, just wanted to say that you are a very unique individual, you have the gift to bring everyone together no matter what, never change.
Taryl* (sorry)
I have 2 of these also. Don't know exactly what versions they are. One got caught in a flood, but the other looks like it has low hours. I'm hoping I can make one good one from the two. This video will be very helpful when the time comes. Thanks Taryl! 👍
Yup! The muffler will melt the bottom cover if it's not tightened. Glad you mentioned that.
Cool video .....i worked on a few of them my self...
Great show; good learning session. Taryl you should of been a "used snowthrower/blower"salesmen.Thanks for the look and your time.
Probably the most purchased snow blower toro made. They still run over 40 yrs later. Usually with new paddles, scraper nad belt that will usually last another 5 yrs.
Merry Christmas taryl..I enjoy and look forward to more vids…🇨🇦
merry christmas to you and yours/tks for what you do
Great video !!
Jr! You made Skippy cry!😥
Great informative video, Taryl! I bought one of these second-hand about 5 years ago. I replaced the paddles on it, and put a diaphragm in it, and it's damn near bullet proof. IT has a BAD fuel leak that I cannot find, so it stays outside instead of in the basement but runs fine every winter. The nice thing about the fuel leak, I don't have to remember to drain it in the spring, just park it and leave it till next year.
Probably the needle valve in the carburetor, not sealing it off when the carburetor bowl is full, but it runs👍
@@lonewolf2156 it is a diaphragm carb. If he is being honest about the repairs that is.
Sunday morning, relaxing watching the head Grass Rat (Snow Rat?) fix two snow-blowers, neither of which I own. Good times! Some people watch GoT, I watch outdoor power equipment videos, mixed up priorities I guess...
Wow I love the intro with skippy and Taryl's son. Now that's real Acting at its best. Hmm next, you're going to tell me i am too old. tear jerker .
I remember these!!!!!
I still have two that are 1981 s200 models that run. I bought two sets of points & condensers and a new coil plus a Total rebuild kit and Belt. one of these days i may rebuild one just for fun.
Great video Tayrl, I still run a Honda HS35 from the 80’s that seems very similar to this Toro. Still runs great buts it’s a 4 stroke instead of a 2. Also won’t die! Just keep replacing the paddles when they wear out. I’d be curious performance wise if one is better then the other. These single stage snow machines are great… no clogs or BS … obviously not commercial units for big jobs … but great for homeowners.
I have 3 of these wonderful machines, got em all for free from the curb!
You covered the plastic screw trick in your JIffy Ice Auger Video.
Merry Christmas.
I think i have one of the 6Hp unit at a summer home, yea! makes no sense, it was freebie, pretty much did the same as you did, plastic was reinforced with sheet metal and pop rivets for the cracked and broken tabs, cheap easy fix for the plastic , red Toro spray paint hid the fix quite well, it still works well just the summer offers not much snow.
I got 1 of those as a kid from the curbside. Ripped the motor out of it, fitted a centrifugal clutch, made motor mounts, and put it in my Minibike. That thing hauled ass!!
Another great video Taryl!
Thanks!
Nice video Taryl, Junior and Slippers, I've never had the opportunity to work on a snow blower, maybe one day.
I enjoyed the Live Stream yesterday, thank yall for being a part of it. 🙂👍🎄🎅
Fond memories of clearing the driveway for my parents in 80’s in the Midwest. Blizzard of ‘78 was the driving force for them to get one in ‘79. Dad would complain about the way I would throw the snow, but not enough to show me how it was done. I tried to use it in the ‘90s. He didn’t do the maintenance on it. The nylon rub bar and paddle were worn out. Completely unusable. Sold it in a yard sale.
Just fixed a 200. Needed a new starter gear and a carb cleaning. Also drilled a port through the housing to spray starting fluid directly into the carb just in case.
I have two just like it; bought them brand new, still have them. Mine say Jacobson on them but same as yours but orange color, no electric start. Have pull choke with a power burst knob.
Hi guys your funny clips are brilliant and make me laugh every time , also your videos cover a wide selection of problem solving I don't find elsewhere which is why your on UA-cam and am pleased you test various brands to find it or not it works . Scott in the UK crap whether as usual..
Thanks for checking in. I thought there might be a problem when you weren’t on the channel. Glad to see it is a 1st world problem that you can handle. Lots of time spent away from the fun projects. Stay safe and healthy. Best wishes to you and yours.
I literally received this machine yesterday to work on and got it running today with shockingly little work 🥳
Great machines
lol the ending was pretty funny.
I have an old SNOW PUP by TORO that works great. Had it since the 70s. It is lightweight and works well on roof tops. On sidewalks, deep snow need a sweeping motion. You really need a 13 horsepower machine. Mine 13 hp is a Poular Snow Thrower that I got at the local Army-AirForce Exchange Service... when there was a store at the local air base here in Duluth MN.
I keep them in good shape.
What you really need here is a good skid steer for snow removal.
Oh, a HEAVY DUTY #14 Grain Scoop plastic farm shovel works great too.
And a #2 steel D handle 5' Steel Flat Nose spade shovel.... a 5' ice scrape... and a 5' spring loaded ice scraper.
Add some electric Heat Trax mats and you are good to go.
Scruffy is my favorite character.
Snow blowers are something we don’t need down here in the Southeast but I still watch and like yer videos about them anyway. You fellas have a Merry Christmas!
I work in an area with plenty of northern transplants.
They bring snowbloweres in their moving vans. We buy them at their spring garage sale for 20 dollars to rob the engines and scrap the rest.
i repaired lots of these in the late 90s early 2000s i always bumped up the rpm and people loved them after that, my mom bought my Grandfather one new in 1977 know as the Toro snow master for his retirement gift ran great for years til 1998 when my brother used straight gas in it
Great video
I had one of those! It was a "Jacobsen Snow Thrower" it had the choke pull knob too! I got it free and though it was a little hard to start, it sure blew snow!....It was still running when I sold that house. It might still be running...I worked in a hardware store when I was 16, I think they sold for around a hundred bucks. 😎
I have 2 hanging on the wall right now both run great. One has a cable choke and the other a nob. Best machines around.
I love the S-620! I use it every year!
I also have the s-620. I rebuilt the carb for $15.00 and now it starts on the first or second pull. It has no problem with light powder up to 5". I like it over my larger Ariens 1130DLE because it's faster for doing my sidewalks. However, forget heavy snow and slush. I run all the gas out in spring then start fresh in autumn. I also wanted to note that a person should only use spray carb cleaner and NOT chem dip to clean. There is a check ball inside the carb that will melt with the chem dip. A mechanic told me this.
I used the hell out of one of them back in the late seventies and into the eighties!! I even dug our house out from the blizzard of 79 in northern IL with it!!
Awesome video
Allsome work guys from cruzermans inventions 😁👍🎉🌟