The Filmmaking Pyramid: How To Start Your Career
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- Опубліковано 27 чер 2024
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Is it better for filmmakers to be a specialist or a generalist?
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0:00 Introduction
0:35 The Filmmaking Pyramid
4:54 Squarespace
5:55 Specialist Vs Generalist Skills
7:53 Different Kinds Of Filmmakers
10:15 Conclusion
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There is a misconception regarding creative work In which people often think that by working a certain amount of specific jobs through a period of time they will grow to become creative and that is wrong, he o she who creates cant stop doing it, they cant help it even if they dont have any specialists, in other words, getting to a creative decision job is not something you achieve rather than something you are born with and develop regardless of any job hierarchy.
From my experience and I've got about 20 years in production, there is a lot of opportunity to move around and develop skill sets early in your career. I started as a set P.A and learned a ton just by observing what goes on. A P.A gets to interact often with several departments so it really is a good way to start. I chose to go the Directors Guild route, followed by the camera department as a very close second choice. By then I had the contacts to make that choice. Now I'm producing and building a company, but there is no way I could have done that without working as a P.A sweeping up cigarette butts and taking out the garbage first.
Genuine question - I don't mean this to be aggressive - how long did it take as a P.A for you to get paid for the work?
I worked as a P.A, in the UK bareinmind, not the US. I literally never got paid, when discussing money I was shut down.
More recently I've moved into Tech, working as a PM.
I went straight to the Guild and got on as a Permittee. So I was on a list and when the union or guild had hired any members who wanted to work, I got the call. So I was paid from day one. I studied media and film in Uni so that may have helped, but mostly I hustled and built up a contact base. @@oliverkelly2908
This! I'm still on my journey, but I started as an intern for production companies and worked up from there. I'm in the corporate world though. It's amazing how many people get hyped up from watching UA-cam Filmmaker Bro channels and they think they're going to Instagram/UA-cam post their way into the industry.
You can definitely work as a below-the-line to learn things and save money, but anyone wanting to direct or write or be a DoP needs to just start doing those things.
I think it's crucial to work at the bottom of the pyramid before taking on a HOD roll. I've worked as a spark for the last 4 years while slowly transitioning into DPing and there's been so many transferable skills I've taken with me. I know what's capable with the amount of time and tools I have at my disposal which is so important to stay on schedule.
This is one of the channels that gave me the courage to start my UA-cam channel 9 months ago about self development. Now I have 1,726 subs and > 1k hours of watch time. I know it’s not comparable with others but I’m still proud I started because I’ve been learning so many lessons that I could haven’t learned without getting started in the 1st place.
I love how you used Cinema Paradiso
Step 1: have financial stability
definitely
So true.
This was the most clear and valuably informative video I have seen in a long time
Step 1: Come from a rich family
False. I didn’t come a middle-class, much less a rich family and I do pretty well for myself. Step 1: Obsession. First thing in the morning to the time you go to sleep - You have to want to continuously learn and develop your skills.
Totally wrong, i worked 5 years to earn for red komodo x and rest of gear. I come from poor family
@@JoeYatesAlaskanFilms step 2: Get born in a rich country
@@TheGoodContent37 Come to a rural village in Alaska. It'll open your eyes that not all places in the U.S. are not treated equally. Not all places here have running water, roads, or grocery stores.
Not exactly true 😂 you just have to be obsessive and shameless and a quick learner to grow in the field, people disagreeing from these facts are straight up liars😂😂
Step 1: have enough money that you can do whatever you want
Step 2: be connected with industry professionals
Step 3: make movies
Eventually people will return to low budget filmmaking. Every year people who aren't well connected, and also not rich make movies but people pretend it's only the rich. Most of Hollywood's directors are middle class people from the Midwest. Guys like Spike Lee, Scorsese, Tarantino came from working class backgrounds. Real artists find a way.
I come from a family with as little resources as possible (like 1 hot meal a day consistently) and as much as you think that’s the only way, I can assure a thick rebuttal of that idea is what’s true out there.
@@TehMr that’s not as little recourses as possible. That’s horrible, but there’s always someone who’s doing better than you, and someone who’s much worse off. Some people live off of rain water and rats they find in alleyways. There are MUCH worse conditions of having truly NO RECOURSES and even those who live in such poverty aren’t living in ABJECT poverty which is even worse. Where you have absolutely nothing, no clothes, no possessions to speak of, just your flesh and bones.
Also, my comment wasn’t literal, more so satirical. Of course having money and being connected will make things much easier, hell having either or is better than having neither. But yes it’s not the end all be all of making movies.
@@AG-ek3qd sure thing mate I wasn’t looking to argue either,look I’m not a fan of the argument that you only need to be rich to make films but what’s true is that you need financial support to be able to focus on a filmmaking career. My stint as a working 2ndAC and 1st could’ve been better for my mental health with that support and networking,though I was lucky in being able to network myself into good positions even if for short bursts of time to upgrade my living situation
@@TehMr yeah sorry I didn’t mean to come off aggressive just firm and realistic.
This inspired the hell out of me thank you
It's a little different in the US. Generally 1st Assistant Camera is a more important position than Operator, because they're responsible for all the gear and logistics of the department, Operators act more as talent than leadership. That and there's almost never a trainee; often Loaders or Digital Intermediate Technicians are a separate role from 2nd AC, all depends on budget. Also important to note how closely the 2nd AC should work with the 1st AD, Script Supervisor, Sound Department, and Electrical Department.
As a working 2nd AC in the southern hemisphere,what’s the working relationship between the 2nd AC and 1st AD beyond marking scene changes on the board?
@@TehMr knowing where you can stage your gear nearby out of shot without having to move it frequently.
@@spooky_leftist ah okay i appreciate the response I assumed I was missing something I’m not aware of but this is very important
I was a 1st AC recently for a student film. It wasn’t for a class and technically a separate independent production, but just supervised remotely by the director’s professor. There was a bunch of issues/conflicts in pre-production. In the end, we had last minute changes to the crew. On the first day, i acted as script supe and 1st AC (i mainly did focus pulling with the Nucleus and the 2nd AC did more work, considering too that he technically was more experienced than me cause he’s done outside work) then when the Script Supe arrived, we still didnt have a DIT on set so i kinda took on the role of supervising that because the Scripty was both being that and DIT and it was her first time doing so. I just helped out organizing because we had to change cards so many times (the most I’ve experienced and ive been in a lot of student film sets and it had never that much card changes but oh well lol) but it was the worst on the final day. We did have someone who could do DIT but he was also BTS photographer so that was pretty tricky. Especially because on the third day, it was an important and lots of opportunities for BTS photos because we were doing the really “cool” scenes in a bar. As 1st AC, I was the Camera B operator which thankfully we were able to figure out because we all were new to having two cameras filming, which didnt help with the already confusing changing of cards. There was an issue with the hard drives too. And when they had questions about it, they’d ask me. Which is kinda on me too for stepping up and tryinh to organize it even though it was not my job at all. I even did the final DIT work on it too lol. I’m sorry I didn’t expect and intend for this to have gotten as lengthy as it did, but Ig i just wanted to share cause i both felt valued and undervalued as 1st AC, because i was already feeling insecure cause at that time it had been a minute since ive been AC (i had been doing mostly Sound or Art stuff) and then I would just get mad/annoyed at the director for different reasons. But yeah it definitely was a learning experience lol. Anyways, if you happen to read this, thanks I appreciate it!
@@bgeese1918 I want to post a more thoughtful response later but yeah that kind of chaos and being undervalued within that is valid
This is the old studio system way. You do not need to do it this way anymore, cameras are cheaper and gear is lighter. You can PA for 10 years and never get anywhere while being paid nothing and being treated like crap or you can find a crew family and make your films and grow together through trial and error. You can shoot a feature on a sony fx3. Hone your skills by doing it, not getting coffee.
All very good but who makes the tea? arguably the most important and technical job of all
When you’re lucky on set you get to take credit on behalf of the craftys work lol
informative video
Step One: Rich family to fund your artistic endeavors.
Step Two: Be very well connected with industry professionals.
Step Three: Have fun making movies with A-List talent and always get into top tier film festivals.
You can skip step one if you're working your ass off, filming weddings, corporate Events, bar mitzvah´s etc.
You can skip step two if you're traveling through the country going to film festivals and start connecting with other filmmakers
You don´t have to work with A-list actors and producers to be a part of the industry. Not everyone can become a Michael Jordon but can still enjoy the game and earn money with it. :)
@@david_garibaldi I'm starting off with corporate events, gotta pay the bills first.
Thanks for the video. But I guess it's hard for someone starting all by themselves (like me). How to learn the technical skills for crew functions alone?
Talking speed is just fine as a rooky
Do you need to graduate from film school to get into the industry or will film courses do? What are the ways of connecting with industry professionals?
Film school isn't a necessity. Even though I am in a film school right now, I've worked in the industry for a while before going to university. Best thing to do in that situation is to just go on social media and join groups or follow a film page that has a small community. You can get on tons of projects, learn and expand your network at the same time.
@@valeriuznav7872 thanks!
Yeah no need to to film school. Although Im about to go back and finish my degree in film, I honestly wished i hadnt rushed into it after HS. Cause you genuinely dont need a diploma to start out in film. It’s definitely a preference thing. My advice: research and reach out to local production companies or film groups. I’m sure there’s bound to be one locally or nearby.
@@valeriuznav7872 @bgeese1918 would most productions take someone on with little experience? most of my experience has come from inclass/small projects so were not working with much. I'm pretty knowledgable about lighting and power distribution so how should i approach reaching out to people?
@@bgeese1918 would most productions take someone on with little experience? most of my experience has come from inclass/small projects so were not working with much. I'm pretty knowledgable about lighting and power distribution so how should i approach reaching out to people?
Any know what film that is at 7:37? Thanks in advance!
I think it might be Nanny, not sure though
@@dylanpower5915 I'll have a look and see. You're a star for that, thank you!
Step 1: have a mum or dad already in the industry
nice video but the talking Is way too slow
I think it's perfect. You have enough videos on this platform rushing through their text and topics. Beside that. UA-cam has a function to raise or lower the playback speed to fit better to your patience/attention span.
I recommend using the Playback speed Option. 1 watched at x1,25
Please go back to how you used to sound
1.-Get born in a rich country
2.-Get born with no disabilities
3.-Get born with white skin
4.-Get born in a family that can provide good education and growing opportunities
5.-Grow up with no traumas that would hinder your possibilities of progress
6.-Develop charisma by getting born like that or not having trauma so you van network flawlessly, of course don't get born anti social or shy
Or
Wait for AI to stick it to the rich. AI will lift of us from poverty in third world countries. No longer we will be jailed to ideas and concepts that the rich thing are worth it. We will all have the chance. Soon...
Bro you clearly never heard of Steven Caple Jr who is A. Black
B. Born on one of the poorest cities in America
C. Didn’t have a dime when he shot his first movie
I’m not gonna lie your not gonna get anywhere in life with that failure mindset….. Not an insult just advice
even AI can't fix your loser mentality