I would be interested to see a brand develop a two putter system. A light, efficient one designed for for doing short strokes more consistently, and then a more forgiving one for longer ones. Idk if it would actually help, but if it did it’s absolutely worth a slot in the bag. The number of shots per round carrying a 3 wood and a 5 wood or whatever long club actually improves is so small compared to what improved putting could do
These are great points. There is no rule that says you cannot have two putters in your bag, as long as you are under the 14 club limit. Phil Mickelson used two different drivers one year at the Masters! Also, to your point, I have seen people with a hybrid and a lofted fairway metal that fly the same distance or two wedges that are only a couple of degrees difference and have the same bounce and grind (why not just open the face of one a little?). I more traditional putter for longer putts (if you need it) and then this one to make the ones that count! :)
how many extremely long putts are you having per round? lol You could always just buy a longer heavier putter and carry two in your bag. Im just not sure what you mean by developing a two putter system, they already make putters that are easier to hit hard, what would you be looking for?
@@mike-mz6yz I think most putters try to be good for everything, I just wonder what a company might develop if they set with the goal of making two that compliment each other. Not certain it would yield much better results, but it could be interesting. Yes you could go pick out two existing ones that somewhat fit that, but I think new product designed from the ground to could be innovative if they were trying to be more specialized
Everyone is missing the most obvious thing about this putter! There's no way of picking up your ball with it, so you have to bend down to pick up gimmies😮
Try a 22 hybrid for those long puts, especially off green. It demands the same concentration and really gets the ball up there. Choke up a bit. Would be interesting to see a video of Rick testing this.
People have done tests with ramps that send balls on a perfect line / speed at the hole and some putts STILL miss because they hit a bump or an imperfection in the green. Perfect putters don't exist.
@@dball70 Exactly. It didn't matter what putter he used - and for me personally I wouldn't want one that butt ugly! Just find one you feel comfortable with and like and then practice 2 putting from various distances.
Not really. What good does it do to practice with something totally different than your gamer putter? Different shapes, total weights, swingweight, grip, etc. It would probably make things worse.
Um…Ivan’s last name is Ballesteros and he designed it. He is Seve’s nephew and they were very close. I think he has the right to use his own name. He’s also quite a good player and teacher.
I have read almost all of the comments on this video so far. There is a common theme that the IB putter is “ugly” and/or it looks like an expensive training aid. As an avid player and someone who plays a lot of great clubs and courses in America, I have seen people spend $600 on a driver that only gives them marginal improvement (if any) and they can only hit it a max of 14 times in a round. BTW, I think some of these new putters are hideous looking but I know people use them for the results and if it works for them and keeps them playing, that is great for the game. These are fundamentally different approaches as the LAB is more about forgiveness while the IB Putter is more about focus. As for being an expensive training aid, I also have seen people spend a lot of money on aids (Trackman, etc.) or lessons with teachers that aren’t that knowledgeable. Even if it is used as just a training aid, if it helps you focus even when you go back to your normal putter, that’s a good thing! That said, I have actually used this putter in regular rounds for a few months now (after just practicing with it for a week or two) and it have found that I am making more putts per round, especially short to mid-range ones under pressure. There is no rule that says you can’t have two putters in your bag (remember Phil Mickelson carried two drivers during one Masters)…and use this one for the “money putts”. Heck, take that 60 degree wedge out and just open the face a bit more on the regular sand wedge or get rid of that extra fairway metal that goes the same distance as your hybrid, and you are good to go with two putters! :)
@@back2back379I am just an advocate for the putter and have gotten to know Ivan. He is a very nice guy who truly believes this will improve people’s game. I have no ownership in the company but don’t like seeing people trash him or the concept without really knowing him or trying it for themselves. We are all here to play better golf! ⛳️🏌️♂️😊
Did you spend more than $300 on a driver that only gives marginal improvement over ones made several years ago? The putter is the one that makes the money! :)
But isn’t that the point? Shouldn’t be more difficult to hit longer putts with it (at first at least)? Wouldn’t help you hit directly on your line? Over time I would imagine it would make your takeaway and follow through almost impeccable. I’m posting this before I’ve even seen Rick hit one ball, so maybe he touches on this point
The issue with putting is even if you pick the perfect line and you’re a great putter, there’s always some anomaly on the green that will potentially throw your putt off whether it’s a dip/dent or slight imperfection. Unless you’re playing some of the best courses in the world, most local municipal greens aren’t perfect. My local courses greens are atrocious. I’m just happy to get it within a guaranteed tap in. 😂
There's a professional, giving tournament pros persimmon headed clubs, to practise with. Then, when they go back to their massive headed woods, they feel uber confident. This gives me the same vibe!
I don't think this review is really fair. I mean i play a decent amount of golf and i probably hit a 60 plus foot putt twice a year lol If the putter can make you sink 1% more of your putts inside 15 feet then it more than makes up for any suffering on insanely long putts. Still i think they could have made it just a tiny bit bigger so that it has at least some margin for error.
@ricksh. I think the point is to improve shorter puts. IE under 10 ft. If I sunk even 30-50% more of my “short puts” my score would improve drastically. For most people I feel this would apply as well as the fact that most normal golfers puts over 15-20 ft it really doesn’t matter if I use a cobblers mallet or a pool que if I sink them I look at it as having a great day. (I would say I sink on average 3 out of 10 of my puts of 15ft or longer and 5 -7 out of 10 at 14 ft or shorter so to improve my short puts by 30 to 50% would probably better my scorecard by at least 3-5 strokes per 9 holes which would be a huge improvement overall. And I think that is what they where focusing on here
Great perspective. I have shaved putting strokes off my scores since switching to this putter, even in competitions with a lot of pressure. In fact, I make more with this in those situations. That’s the point, isn’t it?
A lot of negative comments below but I note that Rick got a bunch of putts in the ladder drill - with a putter NEW to him - and yet no one is amazed? I think we all agree putting is important - very - so perhaps this putter has a place for short putts and carry another putter? After all putting is 1/3 of golf so 2/14 clubs is ok?
I went back and watched the video again and paid more attention to his putts. His first two were not bad considering he just started with it. In the ladder drill, he hits the first 5 in a row (granted the first one was very short), then had the 6th one in the heart but left it just short and the 7th (longest in the drill and hit after he stopped to talk to camera) lipped out but was pretty much right on line. His next mid range putts were also pretty darn good and then he goes to the super long putts. The one he said he mishit looked like it hit another hole first which is why it was so short. He then got into his own head but despite that, rolled two just about the perfect weight. Contrary to what he says, he actually demonstrated that this worked well for him with very little time invested.
@@dball70 Yep _ The "unbox and test" video format is very common on UA-cam, but is fundamentally a bit flawed as it compares the new (therefore unfamiliar) to the familiar .... Most new things are dismissed for a time - some deservedly so - but some not so deservedly! ... for example I am old enough to remember the derision that the following suffered initially: non-metal spikes, metal woods, graphite shafts, putters that look like spaceships, the claw grip, belly putters, and solid golf balls ... The belly putter was eventually even banned because it was winning majors (3/4 consecutive).
@@QGolfClub Great observations. A product like this is new and intimidating looking, so people have jumped to conclusions and some say it is “trash”. To your point, if the ball goes in the hole more because it makes you focus, especially on the “must make” putts, then what serious player wouldn’t consider it? And your comment about it being 1/3 of shots so being 2/14 clubs is SO logical. After all, people carry multiple wedges and even woods/hybrids that are not providing that much different a shot. One of those could easily go IF they feel they need a different putter for long putts, but I actually think with some practice, this could be the only one needed in the bag anyway!
If you are not in the centre of any putter then there is a strong chance you will miss the hole. It's a matter of getting used to any new putter because it's all baout feel and confidence that comes from that. The two negatives, visuals and cost.
I agree, his short putts looked really good. He just needed more time on the longer ones. It takes more than 11 minutes to adjust to any putter. Not a really fair review, IMO
Ok, if you've watched Rick's putting like I have, then you'd know that IB PUTTER gave him great results on that ladder drill! Put that in your bag Rick! Even the 2/7 misses were great
Right? I was thinking the same thing. He hit 5 great putts out of the gate, then left the 6th one just short and lipped out the 7th. I’ll bet he wouldn’t have made those first 5 with LAB or another putter!
I tried one at American Golf. It seemed pretty forgiving due to its mass. It felt really good. I didn't try long putts, but the price put me off. I quite fancy making one. Sound feasible to you?
These are the specs of this one: High quality STAINLESS STEEL 303, ensuring durability and precision in every stroke. The two wings, crafted from ALUMINIUM 6061, add to the overall balance and performance of the putter and contributes for better alignment. With a head weight of 373 grams, a loft of 3.5°, and a lie angle of 70
Being 100% honest, Rick, from the distance you were hitting those last putts, most of us weekend golfers have a better chance at 3-putting than making it or even 2-putting. Put any putter in the hands of a 15 hc player, and the results from that distance will be similar.
This design keep coming back. I remember one back when I was a kid in the late 70s. And if it is good for short putts but not longer putts, why not carry 2 putters. People carry multiple wedges, irons and woods, don't they?? Why only one putter? Golf club makers have talked people into thinking they need 2 drivers, tons of wedges, etc., why not talk you into that you need at least 3 putters?! At $300 to $1000 each, that seems like a good business idea to me.
I think the thing about it is you can go 90* since its mostly circular and not have to worry about the toe hitting the ground. Try it like a true 90* pendulum
I will have to disagree with not putting it in bag.I have seen some putters like this before.I think one was called the cube.Head was like a square Lil bigger than the golf ball.To me with basically using something with only the size of the sweetspot means with contact on face it should be a straight roll......aslong as you don't mishit it.Long putts I'd say wouldn't be good but I feel different speed greens can require different weighted putters.
You are totally correct. Although, I don’t have a problem lagging long putts with it either. I have also found it to be helpful from just off a green when up against the collar because it doesn’t have a wide face that catches in the grass. :)
You said NO to a putter that litterally just performed as well as your LAB Golf gamer, because 'you didn't think it would perform as well'??. I love you Rick, but it seems as though you had your mind made up well before you sank all those putts with it.
Understand he is talking about it from the average golfer's perspective as well though. I am not centering my putts nearly as often as he will. His review was spot on honestly. In the final test his first putt got great distance but then after one mishit he lost confidence in the size of it and each put traveled significantly less far. He did not have the confidence to give it the wallop it needed to reach the hole. Plus the club looks like trash for the price honestly. Good short putter but really awkward for long putting.. and if you do a bit of long putting each round.. I would not recommend.
Maybe useful as a training aid for the rich and famous. But I can create a training aid that focuses your attention on hitting the center, with your own putter and two lumps of Blu Tack, for about 5 cents.
There’s thousands of good second hand putters out there that will do a good job for anyone who can putt. But second hand for £50 or less and then £50 on lessons would bring a better result 👍
When you are on the course, playing a round, you take the time to line up the puts with the line on the ball. With this putter, I didn't see that. I would think with this putter I would think that would need to be paramount.
That is the idea and it really does make you do that, which means more inertia. This really helps on the short to mid-range putts where players have a tendency to hit it on the toe, especially under pressure.
@Rickshiels, @rickshielsgolfshow how about an episode on ‘if you were to spend £250 or £500 on lessons (instead of a new club), how could that look?’…. E.g… 3 lessons on swing in general, 1 driving, 1 short game, 3 on golf fitness? Let’s balance the equipment with some personal improvement- no pain, no gain 😊
That 'round creates roll' type of putter has come and gone, from a variety of manufacturers. The first one I tried was in 1993. It was called the "Hallo-Way", and was being played, endorsed, and marketed by Nike Tour Professional, Tad Halloway. The ONLY thing that it did well was impart overspin, which is something most amateurs struggle to do with their putters.
I had the opportunity to play with Ivan in Spain at the course Seve grew up on last year and he had a prototype of this putter. It did not even have the wings on it with extra scoring lines but he made everything with it so I was intrigued. I got one of these which conforms to the rules by the R&A earlier this year and spent a few days practicing with it, hitting short and long putts. I found my putts got better and better the more I used it and my consistency improved. I started taking it out to play casual rounds of golf with it and then competitive events including the Florida State Interclub Finals, Pro-Scratch events (I am an amateur) and a recent event, where we played courses that have recently hosted a U.S. Open and a Ryder Cup. I can tell you that this has made me a better putter and I have had rounds where I have just lit it up on the greens with this and I have had other players, including a lot of pros ask me about it because they have seen me drain a bunch of them from all ranges. The really long putts are a little less comfortable due to a longer back swing but I lag them just as well as I do my Scotty Cameron or Versa 7 mallet style putter. The putts inside 15 feet go in more and the ones inside 4 feet are almost automatic! It appears they were going in here as well even on the first tries so I am not sure why it gets a “no go” rating. Who doesn’t want to make these “money putts”? In my honest opinion, this video is a bit unfair because it takes more time to adjust to such a new design but I promise, after a couple of days of practice a traditional putter will start to feel like the odd one.
I agree. Any thing you want to evaluate, should be evaluated for more than 10 minutes. Especially a putter that people want to reduce their score or for money. I realize he didn't have a month to spend with the putter.
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Check Tony Finau's Ping Mini putter, it's kinda same
@dball70 as high quality as it feels in the hand. And it does feel amazing in hand me personally I couldn't use it in course due to its size. Same would apply to a small driver or iron. Im Just not skilled enough or confident enough to use it on course unfortunately
Oh no completely agree it will definitely work for some people. I'm not slating the product as it feels amazing when hitting and you can feel the quality in your hands and the weight is amazing in it too
I don’t have this putter, but I have an old acuity putter. 100% face balanced and heavy. The way I use it is bringing it back to “%” that I think it needs, and just letting the head weight do the swing for me. Honestly much better consistency than my odyssey redball putter.
I use a Bloodline stand-up putter, whose use will be banned in January. (You can use it as a traditional putter, but you can't stand it up.) After several years I guess I'm back in the market. Ugh.
I have made more money due to making those key putts under pressure with these in my matches. It has paid for itself several times over in just the past few months for me! :)
I tried this putter out in American Golf… It is a gimmick! If you have the slightest off-centre hit with it, it misses the target by a country mile. I once bought two wedges from MD Golf because of them having Seve Ballesteros's signature on them, they two turned out to be expensive gimmicks. Once bitten twice shy… Believe me, if it ain't got the quality branding name on it, it ain't worth the purchase… I’d be reluctant to part with 349 washers for that putter 😂
Who? Out of his mind charging $300+ for a little machined piece of metal. Also one of the ugliest clubs I've ever seen. I wouldn't even pay $20 for that.
Everyone that makes a CNC milled putter does. Once you program the machine it’s the same difference. I think they are all overpriced, but a raw hunk of stainless steel is fairly expensive these days.
i think you giving up too easy on it. practice a hour a day for a week with it then use it in 10 rounds of golf. then you can give a better judgement of it. its almost like a first time golfer tries the game once.. then never again because its hard. well thats golf. to me it seems like a way to challenge yourself and i think if you got good with it. then you go back to your other putter. you will be better. i dont play golf have a few times.. but i do know a lot of people suck at putting.. this could be a thing that helps them a lot. like you said it makes you focus. the price seems crazy.. for one club. but i guess golf clubs are expensive nowadays. so idk if thats average price for one club or not. im good at short game and putting. i suck at driving and long shots.
I think the fundamental issue with this putter is the weight is too light. It suffers on longer putts because it forces so much arm power instead of weight and gravity doing it.
This one is 373 grams (that’s what it actually says on the side of the putter, which he did not point out in the video) and it is made with a high grade aluminum (hence the cost). There is talk of one at 410 grams which I would like to try next, but this one feels great as is.
@@dball70 That would be a great option for people who like to texas wedge it up often. I roll heavy weights in my mizuno blade for that reason, super low and consistent swing paths.
Wait what? What a weird review?!?! I am new to this guy’s channel but he is pretty contradictory! I mean I am guessing he has some deal with Lab for sure. For starters, it’s called a "Sweet Spot" putter so testing it straight away and giving instant thoughts is nuts, it is of course going to be different. I would give my right arm for a putter that makes me focus and putt 5/7 of those ladder drill putts!!!! Also isn’t that the point...a putter that means your putting improves ten fold, instead of looking for a putter that will allow you to be sloppy and loose? I get that it’s different than a Lab or a traditional putter but I am sure Ivan Ballesteros knew what he was designing. I am sure Seve would have made room in his bag for a putter that will deliver those money putts. After all, he used to tie a club head to a branch with twine and practice hitting balls on the beach. Actually, kind of disrespectful to Seve and Ivan as well if I am honest. I mean considering this guy’s long putts (inconsistent and erratic) and his self appointed golf expertise. How about instead of knee jerk reaction but be professional. I am not sure this review should be really considered. Not only does the reviewer waffle, contradict himself but he actually proved the sweet spot putter’s value. He even says this may be the best putter I ever used after five putts. Then ignores the result and says it’s a no as a putter. I guarantee if that guy played six months with the IB he would be a better player by a mile. I found this video and better explains the putter ua-cam.com/video/xnCH_h90wgM/v-deo.htmlfeature=shared
You're new to the channel that has the most subscribers on UA-cam for golf club reviews? And then u slate the man that has the most subscribers on UA-cam for giving is honest review on the product like he does all the other clubs he reviews, ricks better then an average golfer, if he struggles with it so will 90% of his nearly 3mil followers on UA-cam.
As someone who has had to make little sliders under pressure with this putter, I was thinking the same thing when I watched the final hole of U.S. Open. When they showed a close up of Rory’s putt on 18 (which was a more difficult putt than many people realize), you could see he hit it a bit on the toe and that’s probably why it lost speed and missed low. Because this putter makes you focus so much, you are more likely to hit it solid and keep the inertia that while hold the line.
The most important thing about any golf club is getting the nut on the end correctly adjusted.
Sadly, I’m the nut on the end of the club, and I’ve never managed to get properly adjusted
@@johnkitchen4699 if its any consolation, you are not alone.
Yep, I don’t need a fancy club I need a giant spanner! 😁
@@Lamster66 😆🔧
Has the feel of a miniature croquet mallet.
The really unfortunate thing is... regardless if it is amazing or not, it looks crap for the money.
Honestly I agree with you. However, I would happily play with the ugliest putter in the world if I was draining putts from anywhere on the green.
Kinda prefer it to be ugly, people will doubt you straight away.
This putter doesn’t improve your feel, pace, or aim, so you won’t just magically start draining putts over 15 feet.
Nailed it..
“Is it expensive trash” 😂
Could be a bit on the cheap side. To really take advantage of the club golfer's gullibility, they'd be best doubling it.
😂😂
I would be interested to see a brand develop a two putter system. A light, efficient one designed for for doing short strokes more consistently, and then a more forgiving one for longer ones. Idk if it would actually help, but if it did it’s absolutely worth a slot in the bag. The number of shots per round carrying a 3 wood and a 5 wood or whatever long club actually improves is so small compared to what improved putting could do
These are great points. There is no rule that says you cannot have two putters in your bag, as long as you are under the 14 club limit. Phil Mickelson used two different drivers one year at the Masters! Also, to your point, I have seen people with a hybrid and a lofted fairway metal that fly the same distance or two wedges that are only a couple of degrees difference and have the same bounce and grind (why not just open the face of one a little?). I more traditional putter for longer putts (if you need it) and then this one to make the ones that count! :)
how many extremely long putts are you having per round? lol You could always just buy a longer heavier putter and carry two in your bag. Im just not sure what you mean by developing a two putter system, they already make putters that are easier to hit hard, what would you be looking for?
@@mike-mz6yz I think most putters try to be good for everything, I just wonder what a company might develop if they set with the goal of making two that compliment each other. Not certain it would yield much better results, but it could be interesting. Yes you could go pick out two existing ones that somewhat fit that, but I think new product designed from the ground to could be innovative if they were trying to be more specialized
Except I already do that. I use my Wilson 8802 for long putts, and my LAB B2 for anything within 6'
It looks like a good “training aid” more so than a club in the bag.
ill be honest, this is an odd request but i would love to see you and other professionals try to drive with this putter....its gonna be amazing
Bryson, tee to green par 3s for sure! He could probably drive it 220or more, if it doesn't break.
Everyone is missing the most obvious thing about this putter! There's no way of picking up your ball with it, so you have to bend down to pick up gimmies😮
nobody is gonna gimmie anything if you roll up with that putter xD
That is funny! But, if you have to actually putt those gimmies…this will make more of them go in. I promise!
So it will only impact yanks. Everyone else doesn’t do gimmies
Ever heard of a mallet?
gotta add a ball picker on the handle
Try a 22 hybrid for those long puts, especially off green. It demands the same concentration and really gets the ball up there. Choke up a bit. Would be interesting to see a video of Rick testing this.
Love the Streamsong hat! It was pleasure to meet you when you visited a few months back. Hope to see you again!
People have done tests with ramps that send balls on a perfect line / speed at the hole and some putts STILL miss because they hit a bump or an imperfection in the green. Perfect putters don't exist.
@@dball70 Exactly. It didn't matter what putter he used - and for me personally I wouldn't want one that butt ugly!
Just find one you feel comfortable with and like and then practice 2 putting from various distances.
God bless Seve, but he has shaking his head in disappointment looking down at that "golf" club
It's not advertised as such but I could definitely see it as a useful training aid.
Not really. What good does it do to practice with something totally different than your gamer putter? Different shapes, total weights, swingweight, grip, etc. It would probably make things worse.
I can’t believe they have let this man put the Ballesteros name on this stretched out rubber mallet
I mean.... it is his name, not Seve's, right?
Um…Ivan’s last name is Ballesteros and he designed it. He is Seve’s nephew and they were very close. I think he has the right to use his own name. He’s also quite a good player and teacher.
I have read almost all of the comments on this video so far. There is a common theme that the IB putter is “ugly” and/or it looks like an expensive training aid. As an avid player and someone who plays a lot of great clubs and courses in America, I have seen people spend $600 on a driver that only gives them marginal improvement (if any) and they can only hit it a max of 14 times in a round. BTW, I think some of these new putters are hideous looking but I know people use them for the results and if it works for them and keeps them playing, that is great for the game. These are fundamentally different approaches as the LAB is more about forgiveness while the IB Putter is more about focus. As for being an expensive training aid, I also have seen people spend a lot of money on aids (Trackman, etc.) or lessons with teachers that aren’t that knowledgeable. Even if it is used as just a training aid, if it helps you focus even when you go back to your normal putter, that’s a good thing! That said, I have actually used this putter in regular rounds for a few months now (after just practicing with it for a week or two) and it have found that I am making more putts per round, especially short to mid-range ones under pressure. There is no rule that says you can’t have two putters in your bag (remember Phil Mickelson carried two drivers during one Masters)…and use this one for the “money putts”. Heck, take that 60 degree wedge out and just open the face a bit more on the regular sand wedge or get rid of that extra fairway metal that goes the same distance as your hybrid, and you are good to go with two putters! :)
@@back2back379I am just an advocate for the putter and have gotten to know Ivan. He is a very nice guy who truly believes this will improve people’s game. I have no ownership in the company but don’t like seeing people trash him or the concept without really knowing him or trying it for themselves. We are all here to play better golf! ⛳️🏌️♂️😊
Had a go in American golf. Really liked it. Saw the price n put it down.
Did you spend more than $300 on a driver that only gives marginal improvement over ones made several years ago? The putter is the one that makes the money! :)
@dball70 nope. All my clubs are second hand.
@@keithgrainger8797you gotta find a friend that gets free golf.
I can't wait to see the LAB on the course in your bag
As soon as you his that long putt left that was it for me. 😅
You should check out the Graves Golf Lock n Roll arm/wrist lock putter. I got one and it has really improved my putting.
Seve' was the whole reason I picked up a club. Such a strong competitor.
American Golf buyer who decided to stock this putter has just been pulled into an office somewhere! 😬
Maybe the concentration on the putt is the point... Maybe you should try using the same concentration with your putter and see what the results are...
But isn’t that the point? Shouldn’t be more difficult to hit longer putts with it (at first at least)? Wouldn’t help you hit directly on your line? Over time I would imagine it would make your takeaway and follow through almost impeccable. I’m posting this before I’ve even seen Rick hit one ball, so maybe he touches on this point
The issue with putting is even if you pick the perfect line and you’re a great putter, there’s always some anomaly on the green that will potentially throw your putt off whether it’s a dip/dent or slight imperfection.
Unless you’re playing some of the best courses in the world, most local municipal greens aren’t perfect.
My local courses greens are atrocious. I’m just happy to get it within a guaranteed tap in. 😂
Was laughing way too hard at the SpongeBob cutaway. I am a child 🤣
Reckon you should have tried the same 7 putts in a line and then 70 foot putts with the LAB putter…..the we might have known for sure!
we can go to any local hardware and plumbing stores and get parts to make a putter a lot more cheaper.
There's a professional, giving tournament pros persimmon headed clubs, to practise with. Then, when they go back to their massive headed woods, they feel uber confident. This gives me the same vibe!
I don't think this review is really fair. I mean i play a decent amount of golf and i probably hit a 60 plus foot putt twice a year lol If the putter can make you sink 1% more of your putts inside 15 feet then it more than makes up for any suffering on insanely long putts. Still i think they could have made it just a tiny bit bigger so that it has at least some margin for error.
@ricksh. I think the point is to improve shorter puts. IE under 10 ft. If I sunk even 30-50% more of my “short puts” my score would improve drastically. For most people I feel this would apply as well as the fact that most normal golfers puts over 15-20 ft it really doesn’t matter if I use a cobblers mallet or a pool que if I sink them I look at it as having a great day. (I would say I sink on average 3 out of 10 of my puts of 15ft or longer and 5 -7 out of 10 at 14 ft or shorter so to improve my short puts by 30 to 50% would probably better my scorecard by at least 3-5 strokes per 9 holes which would be a huge improvement overall. And I think that is what they where focusing on here
Great perspective. I have shaved putting strokes off my scores since switching to this putter, even in competitions with a lot of pressure. In fact, I make more with this in those situations. That’s the point, isn’t it?
A lot of negative comments below but I note that Rick got a bunch of putts in the ladder drill - with a putter NEW to him - and yet no one is amazed?
I think we all agree putting is important - very - so perhaps this putter has a place for short putts and carry another putter?
After all putting is 1/3 of golf so 2/14 clubs is ok?
I went back and watched the video again and paid more attention to his putts. His first two were not bad considering he just started with it. In the ladder drill, he hits the first 5 in a row (granted the first one was very short), then had the 6th one in the heart but left it just short and the 7th (longest in the drill and hit after he stopped to talk to camera) lipped out but was pretty much right on line. His next mid range putts were also pretty darn good and then he goes to the super long putts. The one he said he mishit looked like it hit another hole first which is why it was so short. He then got into his own head but despite that, rolled two just about the perfect weight. Contrary to what he says, he actually demonstrated that this worked well for him with very little time invested.
@@dball70 Yep _ The "unbox and test" video format is very common on UA-cam, but is fundamentally a bit flawed as it compares the new (therefore unfamiliar) to the familiar ....
Most new things are dismissed for a time - some deservedly so - but some not so deservedly! ... for example I am old enough to remember the derision that the following suffered initially: non-metal spikes, metal woods, graphite shafts, putters that look like spaceships, the claw grip, belly putters, and solid golf balls ... The belly putter was eventually even banned because it was winning majors (3/4 consecutive).
@@QGolfClub Great observations. A product like this is new and intimidating looking, so people have jumped to conclusions and some say it is “trash”. To your point, if the ball goes in the hole more because it makes you focus, especially on the “must make” putts, then what serious player wouldn’t consider it? And your comment about it being 1/3 of shots so being 2/14 clubs is SO logical. After all, people carry multiple wedges and even woods/hybrids that are not providing that much different a shot. One of those could easily go IF they feel they need a different putter for long putts, but I actually think with some practice, this could be the only one needed in the bag anyway!
If you are not in the centre of any putter then there is a strong chance you will miss the hole. It's a matter of getting used to any new putter because it's all baout feel and confidence that comes from that. The two negatives, visuals and cost.
Buy a rubber mallet for $5 cut the bottom half flat.
Then drill a hole on top and stick an old putter shaft in.
You're welcome I saved you a bundle. 🤣
The fact that I would never be able to afford to test any of these gimmick clubs make me enjoys these videos a lot. Thanks!
Try Dave Pelz potter clips. They are very good and will let u know how well u find the sweet spot. And u use your own putter.
these were genuinely good putts, rolled good too. the size of the head must be the only big let-down.
I agree, his short putts looked really good. He just needed more time on the longer ones. It takes more than 11 minutes to adjust to any putter. Not a really fair review, IMO
@@dball70 totally agree, he went in wanting not to like it.
Ok, if you've watched Rick's putting like I have, then you'd know that IB PUTTER gave him great results on that ladder drill! Put that in your bag Rick! Even the 2/7 misses were great
Right? I was thinking the same thing. He hit 5 great putts out of the gate, then left the 6th one just short and lipped out the 7th. I’ll bet he wouldn’t have made those first 5 with LAB or another putter!
I’ve yet to see anyone using that lab putter where I think it’s helped them. In a year or two they will be distant memory.
I tried one at American Golf. It seemed pretty forgiving due to its mass. It felt really good. I didn't try long putts, but the price put me off. I quite fancy making one.
Sound feasible to you?
These are the specs of this one: High quality STAINLESS STEEL 303, ensuring durability and precision in every stroke. The two wings, crafted from ALUMINIUM 6061, add to the overall balance and performance of the putter and contributes for better alignment. With a head weight of 373 grams, a loft of 3.5°, and a lie angle of 70
Being 100% honest, Rick, from the distance you were hitting those last putts, most of us weekend golfers have a better chance at 3-putting than making it or even 2-putting. Put any putter in the hands of a 15 hc player, and the results from that distance will be similar.
This design keep coming back. I remember one back when I was a kid in the late 70s.
And if it is good for short putts but not longer putts, why not carry 2 putters. People carry multiple wedges, irons and woods, don't they?? Why only one putter?
Golf club makers have talked people into thinking they need 2 drivers, tons of wedges, etc., why not talk you into that you need at least 3 putters?! At $300 to $1000 each, that seems like a good business idea to me.
Very valid points. I know some tour pros that could use something that would make more putts inside 6 feet, especially on Sundays! ;)
I think the thing about it is you can go 90* since its mostly circular and not have to worry about the toe hitting the ground. Try it like a true 90* pendulum
I will have to disagree with not putting it in bag.I have seen some putters like this before.I think one was called the cube.Head was like a square Lil bigger than the golf ball.To me with basically using something with only the size of the sweetspot means with contact on face it should be a straight roll......aslong as you don't mishit it.Long putts I'd say wouldn't be good but I feel different speed greens can require different weighted putters.
You are totally correct. Although, I don’t have a problem lagging long putts with it either. I have also found it to be helpful from just off a green when up against the collar because it doesn’t have a wide face that catches in the grass. :)
You said NO to a putter that litterally just performed as well as your LAB Golf gamer, because 'you didn't think it would perform as well'??. I love you Rick, but it seems as though you had your mind made up well before you sank all those putts with it.
Understand he is talking about it from the average golfer's perspective as well though. I am not centering my putts nearly as often as he will. His review was spot on honestly. In the final test his first putt got great distance but then after one mishit he lost confidence in the size of it and each put traveled significantly less far. He did not have the confidence to give it the wallop it needed to reach the hole. Plus the club looks like trash for the price honestly. Good short putter but really awkward for long putting.. and if you do a bit of long putting each round.. I would not recommend.
@@violabeaumont3758 I respectfully disagree. I’d never game that putter myself, but Ricks assessment of it appeared to be largely premeditated.
@@scottydogmyers Yet you just admitted you would never use the club yourself. I mean that says it all right there.
@@violabeaumont3758 You should re-read my prior comment. You missed the point entirely.
You’re wrong
Maybe useful as a training aid for the rich and famous. But I can create a training aid that focuses your attention on hitting the center, with your own putter and two lumps of Blu Tack, for about 5 cents.
There’s thousands of good second hand putters out there that will do a good job for anyone who can putt. But second hand for £50 or less and then £50 on lessons would bring a better result 👍
Thank you for this🙏🙏🙏
When you are on the course, playing a round, you take the time to line up the puts with the line on the ball. With this putter, I didn't see that. I would think with this putter I would think that would need to be paramount.
You’ve just killed it - and rightly so
Forces you to hit the put absolutely correct.
That is the idea and it really does make you do that, which means more inertia. This really helps on the short to mid-range putts where players have a tendency to hit it on the toe, especially under pressure.
@Rickshiels, @rickshielsgolfshow how about an episode on ‘if you were to spend £250 or £500 on lessons (instead of a new club), how could that look?’…. E.g… 3 lessons on swing in general, 1 driving, 1 short game, 3 on golf fitness? Let’s balance the equipment with some personal improvement- no pain, no gain 😊
That 'round creates roll' type of putter has come and gone, from a variety of manufacturers.
The first one I tried was in 1993.
It was called the
"Hallo-Way", and was being played, endorsed, and marketed by Nike Tour Professional, Tad Halloway.
The ONLY thing that it did well was impart overspin, which is something most amateurs struggle to do with their putters.
With Seve's short game, I guess he didn't leave many long putts
I had the opportunity to play with Ivan in Spain at the course Seve grew up on last year and he had a prototype of this putter. It did not even have the wings on it with extra scoring lines but he made everything with it so I was intrigued. I got one of these which conforms to the rules by the R&A earlier this year and spent a few days practicing with it, hitting short and long putts. I found my putts got better and better the more I used it and my consistency improved. I started taking it out to play casual rounds of golf with it and then competitive events including the Florida State Interclub Finals, Pro-Scratch events (I am an amateur) and a recent event, where we played courses that have recently hosted a U.S. Open and a Ryder Cup. I can tell you that this has made me a better putter and I have had rounds where I have just lit it up on the greens with this and I have had other players, including a lot of pros ask me about it because they have seen me drain a bunch of them from all ranges. The really long putts are a little less comfortable due to a longer back swing but I lag them just as well as I do my Scotty Cameron or Versa 7 mallet style putter. The putts inside 15 feet go in more and the ones inside 4 feet are almost automatic! It appears they were going in here as well even on the first tries so I am not sure why it gets a “no go” rating. Who doesn’t want to make these “money putts”? In my honest opinion, this video is a bit unfair because it takes more time to adjust to such a new design but I promise, after a couple of days of practice a traditional putter will start to feel like the odd one.
Sorry Mr Ballesteros,you are an unreliable witness.
@@matthewgreen161 LOL. I live in the U.S.
I agree. Any thing you want to evaluate, should be evaluated for more than 10 minutes. Especially a putter that people want to reduce their score or for money. I realize he didn't have a month to spend with the putter.
Check Tony Finau's Ping Mini putter, it's kinda same
I've tried this a couple times in American golf. One thing for sure though it feels amazing while putting. But completely agree to expensive
It is high quality. The newest drivers cost $500+ and people pay it to gain 5-10 more yards. Drive for show…putt for dough! :)
@dball70 as high quality as it feels in the hand. And it does feel amazing in hand me personally I couldn't use it in course due to its size. Same would apply to a small driver or iron. Im Just not skilled enough or confident enough to use it on course unfortunately
@@nellynelson9387That is fair. It is definitely a very different approach, but it’s good to have options in the industry, right? :)
Oh no completely agree it will definitely work for some people. I'm not slating the product as it feels amazing when hitting and you can feel the quality in your hands and the weight is amazing in it too
It's not the putter. It's the Putter.
I'm convinced that you've tried every unique putter😅
Could the key to unlocking the full potential of this club be using a side saddle putting style?
A spongebob meme inside of a Rick Shiels video.....my god. It's beautiful.
that was invented 35 years ago as a practice aid, i had one , old news
I don’t have this putter, but I have an old acuity putter. 100% face balanced and heavy.
The way I use it is bringing it back to “%” that I think it needs, and just letting the head weight do the swing for me. Honestly much better consistency than my odyssey redball putter.
iw asjust bringing this up with my brother 10 hours ago today having a putter the size of a golf ball what a coincidence
Well, considering the shaft and head form a 90 degree angle...
"Yeah, give me that putter with zero MOI, that's the ticket!"
😂😂
We need ur review on this new top golf driver 😂
Straight Shotz Roll would smoke that thing
would prefer the finau/ping version the putting aid
To use a small putter like that you would need to commit to it for a period of time to get comfortable with it...
The thing about all putters are if you line it up wrong, you’ll miss with a $20 or $2000 putter. So just get the one you like
If you aren't lining up the putt, you're only setting up to get pace of green.
I use a Bloodline stand-up putter, whose use will be banned in January. (You can use it as a traditional putter, but you can't stand it up.) After several years I guess I'm back in the market. Ugh.
Great innovation
Cracks me up - actually surprises me that you »reviewed » this contraption
“None of them are great and none of them are terrible, they’re just ok”….we know Rick, we know. Might be the golfer…
This thing makes the Hammer look professional 😂
Hang on. At 7:00 I’m sure I heard a V10 downshifting.
Putter face on putter hole action is the content I never knew i needed.
At least we know what they did to recycle the LAB cut out
Seve used a putter like this I seem to remember?
Hi Rick I’m a new subscriber
This is the putter for people who say, “playing blades makes you a better ball striker because you have to concentrate more”
Seve Ballesteros... pronounced Sebe Bayesteeross. Just my old, sorry 😂
How many of us can put from well 70 ft? That’s a complete gamble for most - me included, irrespective of the putter!
So carry two putters - one for short one for long
The last thing you want when putting is not feeling confident. Makes for a great training aid though.
This putter gives players the ability to top, shank and chunk putts to be consistent with the rest of their game.
I would say it makes you focus more on the line.to expensive tho
I have made more money due to making those key putts under pressure with these in my matches. It has paid for itself several times over in just the past few months for me! :)
9:58 think it was the beard mate
I tried this putter out in American Golf… It is a gimmick! If you have the slightest off-centre hit with it, it misses the target by a country mile. I once bought two wedges from MD Golf because of them having Seve Ballesteros's signature on them, they two turned out to be expensive gimmicks. Once bitten twice shy… Believe me, if it ain't got the quality branding name on it, it ain't worth the purchase… I’d be reluctant to part with 349 washers for that putter 😂
Who? Out of his mind charging $300+ for a little machined piece of metal. Also one of the ugliest clubs I've ever seen. I wouldn't even pay $20 for that.
Everyone that makes a CNC milled putter does. Once you program the machine it’s the same difference. I think they are all overpriced, but a raw hunk of stainless steel is fairly expensive these days.
The audacity to charge 350 pounds for this piece of shit. Mosf clubs that price are over priced
i think you giving up too easy on it. practice a hour a day for a week with it then use it in 10 rounds of golf. then you can give a better judgement of it. its almost like a first time golfer tries the game once.. then never again because its hard. well thats golf. to me it seems like a way to challenge yourself and i think if you got good with it. then you go back to your other putter. you will be better. i dont play golf have a few times.. but i do know a lot of people suck at putting.. this could be a thing that helps them a lot. like you said it makes you focus. the price seems crazy.. for one club. but i guess golf clubs are expensive nowadays. so idk if thats average price for one club or not. im good at short game and putting. i suck at driving and long shots.
Does it come with a head cover?
I think the fundamental issue with this putter is the weight is too light. It suffers on longer putts because it forces so much arm power instead of weight and gravity doing it.
This one is 373 grams (that’s what it actually says on the side of the putter, which he did not point out in the video) and it is made with a high grade aluminum (hence the cost). There is talk of one at 410 grams which I would like to try next, but this one feels great as is.
@@dball70 That would be a great option for people who like to texas wedge it up often. I roll heavy weights in my mizuno blade for that reason, super low and consistent swing paths.
Wait what? What a weird review?!?! I am new to this guy’s channel but he is pretty contradictory! I mean I am guessing he has some deal with Lab for sure. For starters, it’s called a "Sweet Spot" putter so testing it straight away and giving instant thoughts is nuts, it is of course going to be different. I would give my right arm for a putter that makes me focus and putt 5/7 of those ladder drill putts!!!!
Also isn’t that the point...a putter that means your putting improves ten fold, instead of looking for a putter that will allow you to be sloppy and loose?
I get that it’s different than a Lab or a traditional putter but I am sure Ivan Ballesteros knew what he was designing. I am sure Seve would have made room in his bag for a putter that will deliver those money putts. After all, he used to tie a club head to a branch with twine and practice hitting balls on the beach.
Actually, kind of disrespectful to Seve and Ivan as well if I am honest. I mean considering this guy’s long putts (inconsistent and erratic) and his self appointed golf expertise. How about instead of knee jerk reaction but be professional.
I am not sure this review should be really considered. Not only does the reviewer waffle, contradict himself but he actually proved the sweet spot putter’s value. He even says this may be the best putter I ever used after five putts. Then ignores the result and says it’s a no as a putter.
I guarantee if that guy played six months with the IB he would be a better player by a mile.
I found this video and better explains the putter
ua-cam.com/video/xnCH_h90wgM/v-deo.htmlfeature=shared
You're new to the channel that has the most subscribers on UA-cam for golf club reviews? And then u slate the man that has the most subscribers on UA-cam for giving is honest review on the product like he does all the other clubs he reviews, ricks better then an average golfer, if he struggles with it so will 90% of his nearly 3mil followers on UA-cam.
So it's just a different version of the hammer putter.
Might have helped Rory about 6 weeks ago!
As someone who has had to make little sliders under pressure with this putter, I was thinking the same thing when I watched the final hole of U.S. Open. When they showed a close up of Rory’s putt on 18 (which was a more difficult putt than many people realize), you could see he hit it a bit on the toe and that’s probably why it lost speed and missed low. Because this putter makes you focus so much, you are more likely to hit it solid and keep the inertia that while hold the line.
If you like that putter, I've got some leftover plumbing you can buy...