thats the thing on putting the correct title to get the most views after you got a big following, cause alot of channels struggle with that, but lud has played the youtube algo through..... its just so crazy to me how simple but also difficult it is to get the right "name" for your video.....
yeah when he brought it up, i was surprised to see he didn't mention more how it just SHOULDN'T be as normalized as it is and that this was morally the correct decision from the other try guys in general.
@@nbkarkat cheating isn't a trend you can spread lmao. It's an internal problem that could affect every human on an individual basis. If you truly believe cheating can become a popular trend that people will follow blindly, then maybe it's time to accept that you might be terminally online.
@@returnalnocturnal7729 my point flew over your head, methinks. the point was people have been surrounded by new cheating allegations 24/7 due to the internet and it's lost the true meaning and severity for some due to how frequently the news seems to repeat. not that cheating is like fucking, contagious?
@@nbkarkat it's also a coping mechanism, so many players in CSGO accuse the enemy team of cheating. I rarely agree to their suspicion, maybe 1 in every 20 matches in total. I think it's mostly used to explain their own performance and avoid having to be self-critical. Dynamically adjusting their actions based on the enemy is tough, thinking that they cheat is easy.
I'm very happy with how the Try Guys handled the situation. I hate when big youtubers get into scandals and they try to talk to you like we're friends. Because at some point, youre not a person, youre a cooperation, a buisness. And you should handle these situation professionaly, like a cooperation. They just set a new standard. P.S, dye your hair another color.
another bit about Ned’s cheating: they recently had a TV show premiere on Food Network, and after everything came out, their time slot was changed was changed from Wednesdays at 10pm to Fridays at 10am, effectively burying it. he probably cost them that deal.
@@Shirley36 first season was only like 6 episodes since thats how it goes to test the water. Sending a show to friday morning is basically a death sentence tho
@@Shirley36 yes, still airing, different time. This definitely killed their chance at getting more episodes, which is extra bad bc breaking off of youtube onto traditional media is huge for a family friendly brand like them, and now that momentum is effectively squandered before they got any roots. This scandal has probably undone years of effort
"The audacity to cheat while streaming, beyond me." -- Mogul Mail, not to be confused with Ludwig, the one who admitted to cheating in Among Us while streaming
@@pitythegreat bro don’t click those links they’ll get into your account. U should probably change ur password and shit now lmao Edit: Damn alright boys I get it. I'm wrong lmao, my b.
If you dislike Lud's luscious golden lockes, you have to understand, Lud needed to rebrand himself from "The Golden Boy of Twitch" to "The Golden Boy of UA-cam."
The main reason Ned was fired (other than cheating on his wife who also worked for the Try Guys company) was because he had an affair with a lower level employee which can lead to a lot of legal troubles to the company, especially since there are claims that he was the head of the Human Resources department. If not handled correctly, very nasty lawsuits could come out of the situation.
probably also why the guys never said her name in the video and said to be nice definitely covering their asses to see how much people want her gone and if she'll leave
@Yeehaw if she actually does that'd make things triple fucked cause then ned either forced her or she's gonna throw him under the bus after ruining her like 11 year long relationship by fucking him
As a person who followed the Try Guys since their Buzzfeed days, I really appreciate how Lud presented the scandal in this video. It made me upset when I saw so many people making gossip videos on the Try Guys just to get views. So seeing Lud talk about Ned alongside other "cheating" stories came off as respectful as a commentator can get.
The worst was the Buzzfeed article that kept popping in my feeds that slightly hated on the Celtics coach and Adam Lavine who also recently cheated and got caught publicly, then WENT IN on Ned and the Try Guys just trying to bring them down completely. It felt like it was written by a kid who's desperate to impress and knows Buzzfeed management would love to shit on these guys that left and became more successful than Buzzfeed on youtube lol.
As someone who watched Try Guys back when they were still a Buzzfeed segment, it's still a hard pill to swallow that this is all happening. It's like Ned took the worse possible route to completely fuck up his career, his image, his marriage and family, his friendships, and moreover, find a way to screw everyone else over too. Like jfc man... what were you thinking?
Horny, thought he could get away with it and how it's not a big deal because the sex was consensual... a lot of people just take something even worse to justify it so yeah cool it wasn't r@pe okay cool no big deal then. It really sucks for all the people involved.
@@ayoCC Nope, they were fully aware the whole time. Stop trying to play this off lmao. "Mind controlled by hormones" is a disgusting way of taking responsibility away from them, and making it seem like it wasn't their fault. It was their full, conscious decision. They are an asshole.
According to Will Neff he was a shitty person back then aswell. Forcing interns to drink their own piss for "content" and forcing Will to film the same day he was in a car accident.
I've watched a lot of Try Guys, never really cared about their personal life. But hearing what happened wa a major shock considering what Neds brand was in the group. It all came off real and as pissed/upset as the other guys were, you can tell they were caught off guard by it. It has apparently been happening for awhile as well. Which leads me to speculate what has been going on in his home life with his family or has he been living a lie his entire life and it was all fake it until you make it.
Lowkey props to this Mogul Mail guy for great online journalism, with his charisma he could even rival people like Ludwig on the platform as time goes on
@@StarryxNight5 "Schlatt" and big guy are not on the same level. Big guy is 1000x better than "Schlatt". I don't even know why you mentioned "Schlatt" here.
Literally burst out loud laughing at this one. Great joke, Kelley; seems unfair that the only replies so far have been bot scum so figured I'd chime in with a genuine reaction.
I was honestly very impressed at how professionally done the try guys video was. It was really straight to the point, and how they handled it was really admirable.
Professional, maybe, but still way overdone & overly dramatic. This whole situation is one adult cheating on his partner with another adult who works at the same company...that's it. Yes it makes them both crappy people and they have certainly done a lot of damage to their respective families/partners, and yes it does mean those 2 shouldnt be part of the channel any more, but come on...going back and editing his face out of every past video like he's a murderer or paedophile? I mean did I miss something, did the guy actually beat up this other woman or sexually abuse her? Because if so, I understand why the Try Guys are making a sombre apology video, weeping & acting like someone has died & doing a Total Recall-style erasing of his past work. But as far as I know it's a dude having an affair with a consenting woman, which happens every day. Fire them & get on with your day, dont build it up into something else.
I still don't think he cheated over the board unless there is new evidence, a great chess title would be, "Cheater beats the best player, without cheating??."
the blonde looks great. if you get yourself some toner, it will make it a lot less yellow. purple shampoo helps to maintain the colour after you use toner.
Fully agree I think he needs to tone it to a more cool toned shade such as an ash-silver blonde. However, it could just be the lighting though, I know warm lighting always makes my bleached hair look so much more yellow than normal
I think from what I understand with Hans. Even apart from the statistical analysis, Hans’s inability to explain his thinking behind his chess moves in any coherent way is the most telling give away to me. If he really is the best chess player in the world, he should be able discuss his moves and the reasoning behind them just like any Super GM.
Maby hes so ingenious that we cant comprehend the moves he makes because their so complex no human could umdeerstand it, so he cant explain it in human terms
He’s not the best chess player in the world. He never said that and nobody else ever said that. He beat the best player in the world in one game. That’s what they’re saying. Whether he cheated or not idk but the best player in the world (Magnus) doesn’t win 100% of his games
@@KKSportsKKS The chart shows that his strength score has had the biggest improvement within his age range by a fair amount even compared to the likes of Fischer and Carlsen... Can he be both the most prodigious prodigy as well as an avid cheater? yes, is it likely? you tell me.
Hans really reminds me of how speedrunners are caught. First there's suspicion caused by a rapid rise and some inconsistency here and there. Then, there's an analysis which proves that it's very very suspicious. Lastly, there's an investigation which works out exactly how it was done and how to prove someone is doing it in the future if someone else tries it. Also, the goal of a cheater is to get away with it with the least reputation damage. Cheaters will never admit more than is proven and they will lie as much as they need to. IMO he's a liar and deserves to get a ban for life, also maybe over the board games should be recorded ahead of time and not played live so that people have a harder time cheating.
Damnit Lud I've stayed away from gossip all my life - especially celebrity gossip - and now I find myself excited to click on your gossip videos. All because you're fun to listen to no matter what you talk about. Also there ain't no way you're still reading comments and using them for discourse anymore, like in the beginning. Now we need a 4th channel where you feel like you can talk to us more casually and read our comments.
Hi Mogul Mail, looks like we’re not done talking about cheating just yet! Saw a headline about a cheating scandal during a recent poker event and was hoping you’d be covering it!!
I think a major aspect of the hans niemann drama is that chess relies on you to trust your opponent, if you're playing someone you cant trust not to cheat youll never know if theyre making a bad move because it was a mistake or a weird strategy by a chess engine, suspecting another player is cheating at the top level of chess can absolutely make you play worse against which is personally my theory of why hans was able to beat magnus
I think even if Ned didn't cheat with an employee and his wife didn't work with their brand, they should have fired him still. I think since their online presence is generally based on their personalities, having a known cheater be one of the faces of the brand would be a bad move either way.
@@turquoisemoon8453 yeah I'm not well versed in laws and I have no idea how it works for a small business and online businesses and shit I'm just talking from a public opinion perspective I guess
If Ned's branding is part of their contract, maybe they can fire him but if not, then I don't think they can. But thankfully, ironically, that isn't the case and the grounds for firing him is valid. The employee though, Alex, is a tough one, so I've read.
If he didnt cheat and his wife didn't eork with their brand.. why would he be fired then? I haven't watched the videos so thats maybe why im confysed by your comment. Was he always a cheater?
@@turquoisemoon8453 I feel like you don’t understand what’s a protected class and what isn’t. You can’t get fired in retaliation for certain protected activities (cheating on your wife is not protected), or if you’re part of a protected class and prove that you were fired for being a member of this class. The united states still has at-will employment, and they could simply state that he’s no longer fulfilling his duties or able to fulfill his duties (for example, even if he wasn’t cheating with an employee, he undoubtably would have taken some time away from social media to “focus on family” and therefore wouldn’t be producing content and interacting with fans per his duties)
The fact that some people think that Hans has a super secret second set of morals hidden in the back of his brain that he activates for OTB like a superpower, is insane.
@@free3793 Even if he was just given a sign for a single turn or two that is a significant edge, its not hard to imagine someone in the crowd give him outside information like this
I’ve been watching the Try guys since their first video at buzzfeed, I feel so bad for Ariel, Eugene, Zac & Keith, I can’t imagine what they’re all going through
I have SO much respect for how the guys handled this. Very professional and thorough video going trough everything on a pretty personal, and also on a business side. Hope everyone pulls through in the end
Just a small correction as they’ve clarified on Twitter recently; they aren’t editing him out of old content. He will be edited out of content they have prefilmed and is going to be released soon! Sorry to be *that* person!
I opened this video, thought "Man his bleached hair looks good" and then he immediately says that people don't think it's a hit and he's self conscious about it
I think the main thing ppl were saying (at least from what I saw in chat and the comments) is that it's a little yellow, which it is, admittedly. But he said earlier on stream today that he was gonna do another round of toner and purple shampoo, so I think it's gonna look great after that! :) But yeah, hopefully ppl will stop being so mean about it!
After watching the video they’ve posted yesterday, this really hits hard and makes me wanna cry endlessly. The three of them looked so disappointed, heartbroken and infuriated in every way. I couldn’t help but feel really terrible for them. I’m just glad that more and more people are aware of this scandal now and that we continue to support the three of them and the rest of Try Guys employees.
The hair honestly isn't bad. I think it'll look even better when a little bit of roots grow in to give it depth and you could always use toner to take some of the brassy yellow color out and make it more platinum. But change is nice, it's a new era of lud hair
Lud has found an excellent unfilled niche with this channel: mild, normal person takes for people who just want to know what's going on. Ps big fan of blondewig
i found out about the ned thing late, and i havent seen a lot of the try guys content, but i sympathize with those who were/are daily viewers. i wanted to say, "that doesnt make sense, he loves his wife," but i dont know the personal lives of those i have seen on a screen. so, in reality, this is as much of a wake up call to viewers as it is to ned himself (assuming he will leave the affairs behind.) its okay to trust the people you watch and to find comfort in them, but i wouldnt be too heart broken if/when content creators make poor decisions. i respect the effort the try guys have put in to keep things as smooth as possible. losing footing on your branding is one thing, but theyve had their trust broken by someone they built that brand with. i hope everyone involved can take time to heal while spreading awareness.
At this point I don't know if we'll ever get a constant flow of good news. (Edit): I think some people are misunderstanding what I was saying. I was just implying that I wished for good news. You guys don't need to be rude d***heads. Completely unwarranted.
thats life, I would recommend giving news a break, good news is hardly popularized anyway but good stuff happens all the time, bad stuff too, it is what it is
i literally thought my phone glitched when i clicked into a video with the try guys as the thumbnail, posted by a channel i dont know, opening to see ludwig's face, dream mentioned in the first few seconds and gothamchess as the top comment. what is this universe
This Mogul Mail character has some really mature, sophisticated takes. These are the kinds of opinions that I just don't see from people (especially in the internet/streamer space). You deserve my like
Unreal how good lud is as a journalist i love the style of hey these are some facts, our editorial opinion, some things to have in mind, moving on. Its so refreshing. Ill be sure to bring a mogul mail up in one of my poli sci classes
I can tell this vid not edited! You're insanely good at speeches and reports! What about doing one of Mogul Mail videos WHILE you streaming just for fun?
There needs to be an independent investigation into Hans cheating, it’s the only real way to get some definitive answers without any conflicts of interest.
There’s no evidence on him cheating in the game against Magnus, that’s the thing. Nothing found when they checked him, nothing strange about the moves. But what they think is suspicious is that he’s cheated before, which is what they’re looking into. In concrete terms though that means nothing regarding if he cheated against Magnus.
@@Decrupt I thought I read that the moves matched up with what a computer would do. And that Hans mentioned that he studied Magnus' previous matches, but it was found that Magnus had only done the same setup once in his career. I could be wrong.
The worst thing Hans did was admit to cheating even just twice as he says. Now that it has come from his mouth its very hard to doubt he wasn't cheating when he's called out by the World #1
It's also REALLY hard to believe the data shows him being THAT MUCH better than literally the #1 Sure it's not impossible, but it's so improbable especially when he has already been caught cheating.
Maybe Magnus man just lost cuz he had a bad game and is salty af about it. If ur gonna take him at his word without evidence youre actually braindamaged. Lets see in what way he cheated (if he did) in his last face to face game against Magnus that set this whole shit of and than decide.
He didn't admit to just two times in the interview, I don't know why that keeps getting repeated. He said he cheated when he was 16 to improve his rating, do you really think that meant a single game?
Hey Lud, a student was murdered at my College (Purdue) and I feel like it would be an interesting Mogul Mail video. The police didn’t inform any students in the dorm and all of campus found out from the local news. I’d be curious to hear your thoughts on safety and maybe the logistics of allowing students to have random roommates. Keep up the good content, def my favorite person to watch right now!
Bro imagine being in the timeline where the beads "theory" is legit and the end result is colonoscopies before every OTB game in a professional setting
The normalization of cheating is legitimately insane, especially those who think Ned should’ve kept his position on the Try Guys. Like bruh, do you think before you say ever? Why would a group for their branding keep someone who cheated on their wife and two children with an employee be kept there, and not the wife?
Nah, people are unreasonable about it. Of course he should be fired for it. Though, I remember this lily and albert cheating incident. Basically kids having a relationship and there's cheating. Everyone was just insanely up in arms about it , when it didn't even concern them, and it really wasn't a huge deal (They were not married, did not have kids, and their relationship had only lasted 2 years). It'd be dumb to him in that offline tv group, obviously, but the amount of hate and bullshit was way over done.
Now I feel like Magnus's Resignation to Hans in the online tournament was more calculated than it appeared. Maybe it was basically Magnus saying "You can either have Hans or Magnus, and if you don't ban Hans, then I don't intend to play in your tournament".
This, now that he is known for being a proven cheater and liar at the time something Magnus did that seemed odd or even a bit childish makes it make a lot more sense. I think people backed the wrong horse trusting Nieman at his word.
Out of curiosity would you be willing to cover recent issues involving the phasmo devs? Not sure if you take topic suggestions or not but it's something more people need to be aware of tbh
This is exactly like magic the gathering. I can 100% pinpoint what decision made me either win the game after 20 years of playing. So That makes sense to see which move shifts the balance
They kicked him out because he lied in his statements. Their agreement to let him back based on him admitting to his crime. Also Danny isn’t the CEO, he’s the CCO (chief chess officer)
Yeah and honestly I think they are covering their backs. His past being made public, it’s bull that he was ever allowed to be back in their tournaments to begin with… the only reason he was is because he was a public face… I think they revoked it because it probably shouldn’t have happened in the first place… they knew how much he cheated before but made an exception they probably shouldn’t have
@@aidenroy2569 They were lenient because he was a child and they obviously treated it differently to if a grown adult GM who is mature enough and can separate right from wrong did the same thing. Everyone's done something extremely stupid when they were young. They showed goodwill to Hans hoping he would reform but he took advantage of that. Nobody deserves to be chastised for their entire lives for a mistake they made in the past as a kid. Now if they don't learn a lesson from that and go on to repeat the misdemeanor like Hans did, only then should they be dealt with in a severe manner and be handed a more lasting punishment. My point is basically that everyone should have a second chance to right their wrongs. However if they do the opposite and repeat their misdeed the hammer will come down on them harder.
@@areebsiddiqui758 sure except he was 17 cheating repeatedly including games with cash prizes… I understand the leniency for a kid especially when he was 12-16 but once he showed repeated games in tournaments with cash prizes he should have been permanently removed from tournaments… not saying from the site all together or anything, or from otb but a repeat offender cheater online shouldn’t be in tournaments where it’s incredibly easy to cheat
@@areebsiddiqui758 I’m not saying he shouldn’t have the chance to write his wrongs, but that chance doesn’t have to be in cash game prizes that hundreds of people are playing for many studying daily for him to piss on that and cheat repeatedly in the past
Character vs. Reputation is what a lot of people don’t seem to see a difference in. Reputation is how people see you compared to what your Character is; what you actually do that plays into how people choose to see you.
ngl, this is like that episode on himym where ted dyes his hair and everyone hates it at first but it slowly starts to grow on everyone. i kinda feel like that with ludwig's hair.
Just because of how they handled what Ned did, I might have to start watching their channel now, wiping his slate from their channel, good shit dudes, handled it amazingly
I like the storyline of this young hotshot taking down someone who is widely considered the best to ever do it. But considering that Hans has cheated over a hundred times online and the fact that there are quite a few statistically anomalies that could potentially show he is cheating, as an outsider with little to no bias on the situation, I personally think that there is a good chance Hans cheated, but I also agree that action should only be taken if there is concrete proof of him cheating
I'd be curious how they detect "likely cheating". Perfect or near-perfect moves? If so then I'd imagine most of Magnus' games would get flagged for potential cheating. If it were you or me making these moves 100% it'd be cheating but these are some of the best of the best. Not saying he 100% did or didn't do it, but I look at these things skeptically until they make sense to me.
@@Haruka_May I agree. More evidence is needed to determine either or. It's very difficult to cheat during an in-person match, especially one that is recorded and heavily scrutinized in real time. Chess officials even use metal detectors to check for prohibited devices before games. I don't see them missing any devices that would be on either players. So, I'm leaning more towards that Hans didn't cheat. But again, like you said, we can't be 100% sure without more evidence.
@@Haruka_May From statistics, even Magnus only had like 2 games with 100% accuracy since 2020. While Hans had like 10 of such games in the same time period. And cmiiw, I think they detected it with things like statistical anomalies, engine accuracy, time spent on a move, behavior on critical move, and also analysis by chess experts.
@@phoebea Yeah, it's just circumstansial evidence so far. Unless you caught them in the acts cheating, we can't really prove it for certain. But his behavior and also admission is giving people reasonable suspicions.
@@Haruka_May The measure of score being used is stockfish or similar, chess engines with ~4000+ elo, when the highest ever achieved by a human (magnus) is 3000; playing a perfectly matching game to one is insane if it lasted a significant amount of moves. So no, Magnus' games aren't "near perfect", and truthfully solving Chess is literally physically impossible so even the bots scoring isn't "perfect" its just way better then anything else.
It's a great thing you bleached your hair. This means you can go with any color you like. I think pink would be a great fit it's on brand and goes with the merch. Stay safe and keep pumping out great videos lud!
I'm glad Homelander is reporting to us through Mogul Mail, really adds some sort of realism to the show
Homelander is spot on lmaooo
Lmao
yummers
finally some real news
Homelander omfg
Crazy how this title can literally mean like 5 different things with all the scandals ongoing
Factual
We all know the chess drama is the good drama
💀 love your channel by the way, one of the inly that can make me audibly laugh 😂
yo i got ur e4 course its basically another form of cheating
thats the thing on putting the correct title to get the most views after you got a big following, cause alot of channels struggle with that, but lud has played the youtube algo through..... its just so crazy to me how simple but also difficult it is to get the right "name" for your video.....
Cheating being normalized is super disgusting to think about. Thanks man.
yeah when he brought it up, i was surprised to see he didn't mention more how it just SHOULDN'T be as normalized as it is and that this was morally the correct decision from the other try guys in general.
@@nbkarkat cheating isn't a trend you can spread lmao. It's an internal problem that could affect every human on an individual basis. If you truly believe cheating can become a popular trend that people will follow blindly, then maybe it's time to accept that you might be terminally online.
@@returnalnocturnal7729 my point flew over your head, methinks. the point was people have been surrounded by new cheating allegations 24/7 due to the internet and it's lost the true meaning and severity for some due to how frequently the news seems to repeat. not that cheating is like fucking, contagious?
@@nbkarkat it's also a coping mechanism, so many players in CSGO accuse the enemy team of cheating. I rarely agree to their suspicion, maybe 1 in every 20 matches in total. I think it's mostly used to explain their own performance and avoid having to be self-critical. Dynamically adjusting their actions based on the enemy is tough, thinking that they cheat is easy.
@@Rotwold oh i was talking about cheating on other people haha, but yeah i agree with you.
I'm very happy with how the Try Guys handled the situation. I hate when big youtubers get into scandals and they try to talk to you like we're friends. Because at some point, youre not a person, youre a cooperation, a buisness. And you should handle these situation professionaly, like a cooperation. They just set a new standard. P.S, dye your hair another color.
Hey when u said coop did u mean corp? I just never heard the term be used in that manner before.
another bit about Ned’s cheating: they recently had a TV show premiere on Food Network, and after everything came out, their time slot was changed was changed from Wednesdays at 10pm to Fridays at 10am, effectively burying it. he probably cost them that deal.
Wait so does that mean they're still going to air the show? Just at the new timezone?
@@Shirley36 first season was only like 6 episodes since thats how it goes to test the water. Sending a show to friday morning is basically a death sentence tho
@@Shirley36 yes, still airing, different time. This definitely killed their chance at getting more episodes, which is extra bad bc breaking off of youtube onto traditional media is huge for a family friendly brand like them, and now that momentum is effectively squandered before they got any roots. This scandal has probably undone years of effort
jesus christ they quite literally slid them under the rug
@@SuperEpicme123 I see, that's unfortunate for the rest of the guys then
"The audacity to cheat while streaming, beyond me." -- Mogul Mail, not to be confused with Ludwig, the one who admitted to cheating in Among Us while streaming
tbf the point of youtubers playing among us was creating content, the chess stuff was cheating over a money prize.
@complete video here F U man you got me 😂
@@pitythegreat bro don’t click those links they’ll get into your account. U should probably change ur password and shit now lmao
Edit: Damn alright boys I get it. I'm wrong lmao, my b.
@@dankmemelord414 they don’t, it’s just to farm view, for some reason copied video links have the weird period
@@jenathica8769 it’s just a url shortener, they’re pretty common for social media sites.
I cant imagine throwing away everything you’ve ever worked for, even your marriage, to cheat with someone who looks up to you.
people really get blinded by power, unfortunately.
If you dislike Lud's luscious golden lockes, you have to understand, Lud needed to rebrand himself from "The Golden Boy of Twitch" to "The Golden Boy of UA-cam."
The main reason Ned was fired (other than cheating on his wife who also worked for the Try Guys company) was because he had an affair with a lower level employee which can lead to a lot of legal troubles to the company, especially since there are claims that he was the head of the Human Resources department. If not handled correctly, very nasty lawsuits could come out of the situation.
probably also why the guys never said her name in the video and said to be nice definitely covering their asses to see how much people want her gone and if she'll leave
the fact that the bots are gettning self aware is really worrying
@leaked footage "making fun of bots" says the bot
You can NOT get fired for having an cheating on your spouse.
But you can for having relations with an employee, which he did
@Yeehaw if she actually does that'd make things triple fucked cause then ned either forced her or she's gonna throw him under the bus after ruining her like 11 year long relationship by fucking him
It wasn’t the try guys branding it was Ned’s branding himself as a husband who loved his wife. It was his only personality trait
I legit thought they were all gay but i only saw one buzzfeed video
@@lootmaster1337 i do get that regarding at least half of them tbh
@@lootmaster1337 one is actually gay, guess who is it?
@@sureindubitably3771 who cares?
@@Fwooperr I do?
Eugene is literally rage personified. He gave me chills lol
This got recommended to me again a year later and the thumbnail made me thought the try guy situation got worse even after a year.
As a person who followed the Try Guys since their Buzzfeed days, I really appreciate how Lud presented the scandal in this video. It made me upset when I saw so many people making gossip videos on the Try Guys just to get views.
So seeing Lud talk about Ned alongside other "cheating" stories came off as respectful as a commentator can get.
@don't be surprised holy fucking shit, how is UA-cam so bad at detecting bots.
The worst was the Buzzfeed article that kept popping in my feeds that slightly hated on the Celtics coach and Adam Lavine who also recently cheated and got caught publicly, then WENT IN on Ned and the Try Guys just trying to bring them down completely.
It felt like it was written by a kid who's desperate to impress and knows Buzzfeed management would love to shit on these guys that left and became more successful than Buzzfeed on youtube lol.
@Thank me later holy fuck I wanna die
@The TacoCat this is so dumb
Lmao when he said next cheater after Dream
As someone who watched Try Guys back when they were still a Buzzfeed segment, it's still a hard pill to swallow that this is all happening. It's like Ned took the worse possible route to completely fuck up his career, his image, his marriage and family, his friendships, and moreover, find a way to screw everyone else over too. Like jfc man... what were you thinking?
He got mind controlled by hormones
Horny, thought he could get away with it and how it's not a big deal because the sex was consensual... a lot of people just take something even worse to justify it so yeah cool it wasn't r@pe okay cool no big deal then. It really sucks for all the people involved.
Drunk on power
@@ayoCC Nope, they were fully aware the whole time. Stop trying to play this off lmao. "Mind controlled by hormones" is a disgusting way of taking responsibility away from them, and making it seem like it wasn't their fault. It was their full, conscious decision. They are an asshole.
According to Will Neff he was a shitty person back then aswell. Forcing interns to drink their own piss for "content" and forcing Will to film the same day he was in a car accident.
So proud of mogul mail for supporting Ludwig's decision to bleach his hair
I've watched a lot of Try Guys, never really cared about their personal life. But hearing what happened wa a major shock considering what Neds brand was in the group. It all came off real and as pissed/upset as the other guys were, you can tell they were caught off guard by it. It has apparently been happening for awhile as well. Which leads me to speculate what has been going on in his home life with his family or has he been living a lie his entire life and it was all fake it until you make it.
It just never ends, does it?
And we still don't even know if Mogul Mail and Ludwig are the same person
Oh hey it’s the funni bee vtuber
I don’t think they are. This guys hair is a totally different colour than that of Ludwig’s
@@cdogdeluxe6037 actually ludwig dyed his hair not long before mogul mail did, im pretty sure hes just copying lud for views lmao
nahhh mogul mail did it first, lud is tryna copy him smh
oh hai ivy
Lowkey props to this Mogul Mail guy for great online journalism, with his charisma he could even rival people like Ludwig on the platform as time goes on
He might even surpass Big Guy too! Actually, yeah no. That's never happening. Schlatt at best, but not Big Guy
@@StarryxNight5 "Schlatt" and big guy are not on the same level. Big guy is 1000x better than "Schlatt". I don't even know why you mentioned "Schlatt" here.
Is this really journalism or just news aggregation?
Lud let me tell you, I am loving the content lately, you are doing a great job, thank you
Crazy that he had to go super saiyan to report this news to us. A true journalist.
I'm glad that Fred got this vid out before going to solve more mysteries with the gang
Stupid bots. Fred already solved the mystery.
Literally burst out loud laughing at this one. Great joke, Kelley; seems unfair that the only replies so far have been bot scum so figured I'd chime in with a genuine reaction.
@@ShaunCheah Hey I am not a bot and you clearly see my comment.
Lmao! Poor Mogul Mail keeps getting beaten up over his hair
Thought I was the only one lmao I was about to make a comment about this
The most shocking thing about the chess scandal is how Niemann's accent changed faster than Kyler's in Kobra Kai.
@i better call ....Thats what a bot would say
Probably even faster than Tom Hanks changing accent in the Live Action Pinocchio
At first it was some attempt at russian or german accent, then it just went to american.
Dude get some dark sunglasses and a black T-Shirt and you would have a perfect Johnny Bravo Halloween costume.
thank you mogul mail for always showing up on my feed just as i open up my lunch, makes it tastier everytime:)
I was honestly very impressed at how professionally done the try guys video was. It was really straight to the point, and how they handled it was really admirable.
Agreed. It was professionally done, but not so much so that it was robotic or off putting because they still showed their emotions
@im sacred fr fr?
Each of them gave off the vibe of a different stage of grief, Eugene was pure anger, Zach was depression and Keith was acceptance
@@liyre4189 when I was watching it I was like “yo holy shit Eugene’s mad”
I’d never seen him like that so it was like “damn bro this is real”
Professional, maybe, but still way overdone & overly dramatic. This whole situation is one adult cheating on his partner with another adult who works at the same company...that's it. Yes it makes them both crappy people and they have certainly done a lot of damage to their respective families/partners, and yes it does mean those 2 shouldnt be part of the channel any more, but come on...going back and editing his face out of every past video like he's a murderer or paedophile?
I mean did I miss something, did the guy actually beat up this other woman or sexually abuse her? Because if so, I understand why the Try Guys are making a sombre apology video, weeping & acting like someone has died & doing a Total Recall-style erasing of his past work. But as far as I know it's a dude having an affair with a consenting woman, which happens every day. Fire them & get on with your day, dont build it up into something else.
I really just can't get over the fact that his hair looks like a sideways stack of pringles
Lmaooooo I cant unsee now stooop
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No stop why did you say this I can't unsee it now lmao
Coldest comment on here HAHAHAHAHA
I CANT UNSEE IT NOW NOOO
Thanks Homelander for keeping us updated on all the drama
here to announce as a ludwigler that the hair is actually so bomb that we are scared to compliment him in fear of his head getting big
Hans Nieman actually cheated on purpose to start the butterfly effect of other cheaters getting caught. May he rest in piece.
oh god the bots
@@kal-tsit they get worse each day
This is the clip u all looking for.:
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Do we know that for certain or are you reading into it?
I still don't think he cheated over the board unless there is new evidence, a great chess title would be, "Cheater beats the best player, without cheating??."
I think dream would’ve been made fun of no matter what he looked like tbh
Yes
hype doomed him
tbh I'm not a fan of dream/minecraft but I would genuinely have a crush on him lol
@@chief_mourner and so did his fandom tbh, people hate dreamsmp fans and by extension, dream himself
@@madzie111 true
lud hair and sweater yellow and purple combo looks so good… and the sweater looks comfy
The timing on this being in my recommended is impeccable
the blonde looks great. if you get yourself some toner, it will make it a lot less yellow. purple shampoo helps to maintain the colour after you use toner.
Fully agree I think he needs to tone it to a more cool toned shade such as an ash-silver blonde. However, it could just be the lighting though, I know warm lighting always makes my bleached hair look so much more yellow than normal
Someone get Brad Mondo stat
He’s said on stream that he does use purple shampoo, but I think the saturation filter lud uses makes it seem brighter
A blue shampoo would probably be a little better, even just in the copper pieces
I also think he should have left the sides brown. With the dark eyebrows it kind of just looks like hes wearing a wig.
I think from what I understand with Hans. Even apart from the statistical analysis, Hans’s inability to explain his thinking behind his chess moves in any coherent way is the most telling give away to me. If he really is the best chess player in the world, he should be able discuss his moves and the reasoning behind them just like any Super GM.
Maby hes so ingenious that we cant comprehend the moves he makes because their so complex no human could umdeerstand it, so he cant explain it in human terms
He’s not the best chess player in the world. He never said that and nobody else ever said that. He beat the best player in the world in one game. That’s what they’re saying. Whether he cheated or not idk but the best player in the world (Magnus) doesn’t win 100% of his games
@@KKSportsKKS The chart shows that his strength score has had the biggest improvement within his age range by a fair amount even compared to the likes of Fischer and Carlsen... Can he be both the most prodigious prodigy as well as an avid cheater? yes, is it likely? you tell me.
@@JS-oh2dp fair enough
@@theshabbycommenter even tho he cheated he is clearly one of the best chess players in the world.
Hans really reminds me of how speedrunners are caught. First there's suspicion caused by a rapid rise and some inconsistency here and there. Then, there's an analysis which proves that it's very very suspicious. Lastly, there's an investigation which works out exactly how it was done and how to prove someone is doing it in the future if someone else tries it.
Also, the goal of a cheater is to get away with it with the least reputation damage. Cheaters will never admit more than is proven and they will lie as much as they need to. IMO he's a liar and deserves to get a ban for life, also maybe over the board games should be recorded ahead of time and not played live so that people have a harder time cheating.
I really like your content here! Congrats on everything your doing and the good to come
I'm so glad that Johnny Bravo is reporting on this situation, wish he still had his sunglasses and black t shirt though
Fuck, now I can’t unsee it
@@serax126 Hahaha >:))
There is no world where the dream face reveal went well.
There is a universe out there where twitter doesn't exist. Sadly not ours.
How does ranboo not get yelled at on twitter?
mans could have been ryan reynolds and still "he's ugly" would trend
We’re lucky he was a very normal looking white guy, because otherwise the news would probably be talking about all the slurs he’s being called.
@@GrayCatbird1 more than the amount he probably already is?
Damnit Lud I've stayed away from gossip all my life - especially celebrity gossip - and now I find myself excited to click on your gossip videos. All because you're fun to listen to no matter what you talk about.
Also there ain't no way you're still reading comments and using them for discourse anymore, like in the beginning. Now we need a 4th channel where you feel like you can talk to us more casually and read our comments.
hey that aint lud, don't confuse him with Mogul Mail
Uhh... That's not lud mate I know they look the same but that's mogul mail
GOLUM; ua-cam.com/video/3kPphcrYHig/v-deo.html
Hi Mogul Mail, looks like we’re not done talking about cheating just yet! Saw a headline about a cheating scandal during a recent poker event and was hoping you’d be covering it!!
I think a major aspect of the hans niemann drama is that chess relies on you to trust your opponent, if you're playing someone you cant trust not to cheat youll never know if theyre making a bad move because it was a mistake or a weird strategy by a chess engine, suspecting another player is cheating at the top level of chess can absolutely make you play worse against which is personally my theory of why hans was able to beat magnus
Cant believe one of his side channels that he makes content on par with his normal channels content amazes me
So much drama and scandals this past month and it's still ongoing...I love it!!!
I think even if Ned didn't cheat with an employee and his wife didn't work with their brand, they should have fired him still. I think since their online presence is generally based on their personalities, having a known cheater be one of the faces of the brand would be a bad move either way.
Yeah I get it, but it's possible to get wrongful termination lawsuits if not done properly
@@turquoisemoon8453 yeah I'm not well versed in laws and I have no idea how it works for a small business and online businesses and shit I'm just talking from a public opinion perspective I guess
If Ned's branding is part of their contract, maybe they can fire him but if not, then I don't think they can. But thankfully, ironically, that isn't the case and the grounds for firing him is valid. The employee though, Alex, is a tough one, so I've read.
If he didnt cheat and his wife didn't eork with their brand.. why would he be fired then? I haven't watched the videos so thats maybe why im confysed by your comment. Was he always a cheater?
@@turquoisemoon8453 I feel like you don’t understand what’s a protected class and what isn’t. You can’t get fired in retaliation for certain protected activities (cheating on your wife is not protected), or if you’re part of a protected class and prove that you were fired for being a member of this class. The united states still has at-will employment, and they could simply state that he’s no longer fulfilling his duties or able to fulfill his duties (for example, even if he wasn’t cheating with an employee, he undoubtably would have taken some time away from social media to “focus on family” and therefore wouldn’t be producing content and interacting with fans per his duties)
The fact that some people think that Hans has a super secret second set of morals hidden in the back of his brain that he activates for OTB like a superpower, is insane.
Well its more of the idea of like Ive never cheated in the classroom but ive cheated on online tests because I dont think id get caught.
@@free3793 so you’re saying he would cheat if he could? Man you convinced me lmao.
@@sleepisthecousinofdeath7395 Yea probably tho I dont even understand how people can cheat over the board in gm tourneys like that
@@free3793 anal fish
@@free3793 Even if he was just given a sign for a single turn or two that is a significant edge, its not hard to imagine someone in the crowd give him outside information like this
Ludwig missed the opportunity to say stalemate, instead of stand still
thank your for keeping us informed Slim Shady
The Try Guys changing their name to the Tri Guys would be the ultimate pivot
I love how Dream somehow managed to keep a 3/4 perspective for his entire video lol
Man knew his angle lol
Dream looked in the camera and said "This angle is the one," and stuck with it throughout the whole video.
I’ve been watching the Try guys since their first video at buzzfeed, I feel so bad for Ariel, Eugene, Zac & Keith, I can’t imagine what they’re all going through
you are killin the hair dude
I have SO much respect for how the guys handled this. Very professional and thorough video going trough everything on a pretty personal, and also on a business side.
Hope everyone pulls through in the end
Just a small correction as they’ve clarified on Twitter recently; they aren’t editing him out of old content. He will be edited out of content they have prefilmed and is going to be released soon! Sorry to be *that* person!
this channel is doing so good rn
I love how the search for the tryguys thing just say: "WHAT HAPPENDF"
I opened this video, thought "Man his bleached hair looks good" and then he immediately says that people don't think it's a hit and he's self conscious about it
I think it needs a little purple shampoo but that’s it
I think the main thing ppl were saying (at least from what I saw in chat and the comments) is that it's a little yellow, which it is, admittedly. But he said earlier on stream today that he was gonna do another round of toner and purple shampoo, so I think it's gonna look great after that! :) But yeah, hopefully ppl will stop being so mean about it!
After watching the video they’ve posted yesterday, this really hits hard and makes me wanna cry endlessly. The three of them looked so disappointed, heartbroken and infuriated in every way. I couldn’t help but feel really terrible for them. I’m just glad that more and more people are aware of this scandal now and that we continue to support the three of them and the rest of Try Guys employees.
LMAO
Zach was sad. Keith was disappointed. I could feel Eugene's rage through the screen. It feel so horrible to watch them deal with it in real time.
my friend i think you've gotten too parasocial toward them if you wanna cry endlessly over something like this
Idk if this is satirical.
Language feels satirical and not like what a real fan will writr
@@EspeonMistress00 I Hope it’s satirical lol and someone random they don’t know actually having the feels that way
Well said lud! Couldn't put it into better words
The hair honestly isn't bad. I think it'll look even better when a little bit of roots grow in to give it depth and you could always use toner to take some of the brassy yellow color out and make it more platinum. But change is nice, it's a new era of lud hair
Lud has found an excellent unfilled niche with this channel: mild, normal person takes for people who just want to know what's going on.
Ps big fan of blondewig
Why are u talking about this lud guy in a mogul mail video?
@@dalog9194 Don't you know mogul mail's real name is also ludwig? More evidence they could be the same person
@@pwilll really? Damn that's a crazy coincidence...
Welcome back Mr. Mogul Mail, glad to see your second channel Ludwig is doing fine.
Wtf are you talking about, there is no link between mogul mail and that copy cat
You have no proof that Ludwig and Mogul Mail are the same person
You should upload the audio of these as a podcast of its own
i found out about the ned thing late, and i havent seen a lot of the try guys content, but i sympathize with those who were/are daily viewers. i wanted to say, "that doesnt make sense, he loves his wife," but i dont know the personal lives of those i have seen on a screen. so, in reality, this is as much of a wake up call to viewers as it is to ned himself (assuming he will leave the affairs behind.) its okay to trust the people you watch and to find comfort in them, but i wouldnt be too heart broken if/when content creators make poor decisions.
i respect the effort the try guys have put in to keep things as smooth as possible. losing footing on your branding is one thing, but theyve had their trust broken by someone they built that brand with. i hope everyone involved can take time to heal while spreading awareness.
At this point I don't know if we'll ever get a constant flow of good news.
(Edit): I think some people are misunderstanding what I was saying. I was just implying that I wished for good news. You guys don't need to be rude d***heads. Completely unwarranted.
Bro have been alive? Your lucky to get good news anymore
thats life, I would recommend giving news a break, good news is hardly popularized anyway but good stuff happens all the time, bad stuff too, it is what it is
Bad news brings in views, people like drama that doesn't involve them. Good news is out there you have to find it
welcome to the news business pal
I got a PS5 for my birthday today. I hope that's good enought :)
The fact that I had to question which scandal, been a crazy 2 weeks 🤣
i literally thought my phone glitched when i clicked into a video with the try guys as the thumbnail, posted by a channel i dont know, opening to see ludwig's face, dream mentioned in the first few seconds and gothamchess as the top comment. what is this universe
Oh boy my favourite news anchor telling me about the crazy things in these times
This Mogul Mail character has some really mature, sophisticated takes. These are the kinds of opinions that I just don't see from people (especially in the internet/streamer space). You deserve my like
Unreal how good lud is as a journalist i love the style of hey these are some facts, our editorial opinion, some things to have in mind, moving on. Its so refreshing. Ill be sure to bring a mogul mail up in one of my poli sci classes
I mean he has a major in journalism lol
The opposite of Hasan lol
Who is lud
Why are you talking about lud? Lud was not mentioned at all in this video
@@angelaaubreyvillanue he meant the guy in the video, Johnny bravo
the 4:29 "stop" was so swedish dude, genes popping through
I can tell this vid not edited! You're insanely good at speeches and reports! What about doing one of Mogul Mail videos WHILE you streaming just for fun?
There needs to be an independent investigation into Hans cheating, it’s the only real way to get some definitive answers without any conflicts of interest.
Fide is also investigating, I think?
There’s no evidence on him cheating in the game against Magnus, that’s the thing. Nothing found when they checked him, nothing strange about the moves. But what they think is suspicious is that he’s cheated before, which is what they’re looking into. In concrete terms though that means nothing regarding if he cheated against Magnus.
@@Decrupt I thought I read that the moves matched up with what a computer would do. And that Hans mentioned that he studied Magnus' previous matches, but it was found that Magnus had only done the same setup once in his career. I could be wrong.
The worst thing Hans did was admit to cheating even just twice as he says. Now that it has come from his mouth its very hard to doubt he wasn't cheating when he's called out by the World #1
It's also REALLY hard to believe the data shows him being THAT MUCH better than literally the #1
Sure it's not impossible, but it's so improbable especially when he has already been caught cheating.
He's already been caught cheating. Admitting it to the public is the better decision before it would've been dug up, thus making him look more guilty.
Maybe Magnus man just lost cuz he had a bad game and is salty af about it. If ur gonna take him at his word without evidence youre actually braindamaged. Lets see in what way he cheated (if he did) in his last face to face game against Magnus that set this whole shit of and than decide.
He didn't admit to just two times in the interview, I don't know why that keeps getting repeated. He said he cheated when he was 16 to improve his rating, do you really think that meant a single game?
@@Rakkoonn he also said he's never cheated on stream, which is a lie
Ned's getting the Nameless King treatment from Dark Souls 3 holy shit
Hey Lud, a student was murdered at my College (Purdue) and I feel like it would be an interesting Mogul Mail video. The police didn’t inform any students in the dorm and all of campus found out from the local news. I’d be curious to hear your thoughts on safety and maybe the logistics of allowing students to have random roommates. Keep up the good content, def my favorite person to watch right now!
Bro imagine being in the timeline where the beads "theory" is legit and the end result is colonoscopies before every OTB game in a professional setting
a digital rectal exam would be fine for this case, whereas you’d need to be sedated for a colonoscopy (idk how a bead in your bowels would even work)
@@whatitdobaby5155 vibrations
@@Elijah-eg1xt the large amount of nerve endings of the rectum is why anal beads even exist in the first place, it's much more sensitive
The normalization of cheating is legitimately insane, especially those who think Ned should’ve kept his position on the Try Guys. Like bruh, do you think before you say ever? Why would a group for their branding keep someone who cheated on their wife and two children with an employee be kept there, and not the wife?
Nah, people are unreasonable about it. Of course he should be fired for it.
Though, I remember this lily and albert cheating incident. Basically kids having a relationship and there's cheating. Everyone was just insanely up in arms about it , when it didn't even concern them, and it really wasn't a huge deal (They were not married, did not have kids, and their relationship had only lasted 2 years). It'd be dumb to him in that offline tv group, obviously, but the amount of hate and bullshit was way over done.
Every Mogul Mail videos be like:
"100 bajillion tabs are open"
Lud went Super Saiyan
Now I feel like Magnus's Resignation to Hans in the online tournament was more calculated than it appeared. Maybe it was basically Magnus saying "You can either have Hans or Magnus, and if you don't ban Hans, then I don't intend to play in your tournament".
This, now that he is known for being a proven cheater and liar at the time something Magnus did that seemed odd or even a bit childish makes it make a lot more sense. I think people backed the wrong horse trusting Nieman at his word.
@@PedroAce Man, people calling Magnus childish really gotta apologize to him now that it's proven
Interesting. Magnus is a pretty level headed dude so that could make sense.
the intro of this vid leading into the first story made me laugh way too hard, good on you dude
Thanks for keeping us informed Johnny Bravo!
Tbh love the hair Lud. It's honestly fire.
When Ludwig says next cheater after Dream, I had to think; "Wait... next cheater? Dream didn't cheat... OH WAIT A MINUTE"
Me too. I fully forgot
I cant get over how this channel is leaving ludwig in the dust
Out of curiosity would you be willing to cover recent issues involving the phasmo devs? Not sure if you take topic suggestions or not but it's something more people need to be aware of tbh
This is exactly like magic the gathering. I can 100% pinpoint what decision made me either win the game after 20 years of playing. So That makes sense to see which move shifts the balance
They kicked him out because he lied in his statements. Their agreement to let him back based on him admitting to his crime. Also Danny isn’t the CEO, he’s the CCO (chief chess officer)
No, they banned him before that interview - that's why Niemann brought it up.
Yeah and honestly I think they are covering their backs. His past being made public, it’s bull that he was ever allowed to be back in their tournaments to begin with… the only reason he was is because he was a public face… I think they revoked it because it probably shouldn’t have happened in the first place… they knew how much he cheated before but made an exception they probably shouldn’t have
@@aidenroy2569 They were lenient because he was a child and they obviously treated it differently to if a grown adult GM who is mature enough and can separate right from wrong did the same thing. Everyone's done something extremely stupid when they were young.
They showed goodwill to Hans hoping he would reform but he took advantage of that. Nobody deserves to be chastised for their entire lives for a mistake they made in the past as a kid. Now if they don't learn a lesson from that and go on to repeat the misdemeanor like Hans did, only then should they be dealt with in a severe manner and be handed a more lasting punishment.
My point is basically that everyone should have a second chance to right their wrongs. However if they do the opposite and repeat their misdeed the hammer will come down on them harder.
@@areebsiddiqui758 sure except he was 17 cheating repeatedly including games with cash prizes… I understand the leniency for a kid especially when he was 12-16 but once he showed repeated games in tournaments with cash prizes he should have been permanently removed from tournaments… not saying from the site all together or anything, or from otb but a repeat offender cheater online shouldn’t be in tournaments where it’s incredibly easy to cheat
@@areebsiddiqui758 I’m not saying he shouldn’t have the chance to write his wrongs, but that chance doesn’t have to be in cash game prizes that hundreds of people are playing for many studying daily for him to piss on that and cheat repeatedly in the past
Character vs. Reputation is what a lot of people don’t seem to see a difference in. Reputation is how people see you compared to what your Character is; what you actually do that plays into how people choose to see you.
Man the room is a mess
Just discovered you, you look good with this hair dude! Subscribed
this format of useless news is so good. i love it so please keep making this videos
the dream leak a few years ago was true was my biggest takeaway. it looks like he lost a lot of weight. good for him
Oh yeahhhh I forgot about that ! True good for him
ngl, this is like that episode on himym where ted dyes his hair and everyone hates it at first but it slowly starts to grow on everyone. i kinda feel like that with ludwig's hair.
Just because of how they handled what Ned did, I might have to start watching their channel now, wiping his slate from their channel, good shit dudes, handled it amazingly
If Hans cheated online that much, he should just be banned from all chess tournaments
Seeing how the Tri Guys move forward will be interesting
Love that monty gator mini figure keychain accessory
I like the storyline of this young hotshot taking down someone who is widely considered the best to ever do it. But considering that Hans has cheated over a hundred times online and the fact that there are quite a few statistically anomalies that could potentially show he is cheating, as an outsider with little to no bias on the situation, I personally think that there is a good chance Hans cheated, but I also agree that action should only be taken if there is concrete proof of him cheating
I'd be curious how they detect "likely cheating". Perfect or near-perfect moves? If so then I'd imagine most of Magnus' games would get flagged for potential cheating. If it were you or me making these moves 100% it'd be cheating but these are some of the best of the best. Not saying he 100% did or didn't do it, but I look at these things skeptically until they make sense to me.
@@Haruka_May I agree. More evidence is needed to determine either or. It's very difficult to cheat during an in-person match, especially one that is recorded and heavily scrutinized in real time. Chess officials even use metal detectors to check for prohibited devices before games. I don't see them missing any devices that would be on either players. So, I'm leaning more towards that Hans didn't cheat. But again, like you said, we can't be 100% sure without more evidence.
@@Haruka_May From statistics, even Magnus only had like 2 games with 100% accuracy since 2020. While Hans had like 10 of such games in the same time period. And cmiiw, I think they detected it with things like statistical anomalies, engine accuracy, time spent on a move, behavior on critical move, and also analysis by chess experts.
@@phoebea Yeah, it's just circumstansial evidence so far. Unless you caught them in the acts cheating, we can't really prove it for certain. But his behavior and also admission is giving people reasonable suspicions.
@@Haruka_May The measure of score being used is stockfish or similar, chess engines with ~4000+ elo, when the highest ever achieved by a human (magnus) is 3000; playing a perfectly matching game to one is insane if it lasted a significant amount of moves. So no, Magnus' games aren't "near perfect", and truthfully solving Chess is literally physically impossible so even the bots scoring isn't "perfect" its just way better then anything else.
It's a great thing you bleached your hair. This means you can go with any color you like. I think pink would be a great fit it's on brand and goes with the merch. Stay safe and keep pumping out great videos lud!