I started with carbide cutters then switched to traditional tools. There is NO question you get a better cut with traditional tools. I still use my carbide periodically but love my traditional tools much more. Well said Kent!
Thank you very much for all the help. There are a lot of sources of information on UA-cam about wood turning, but you are among the best for sure! I have learned so much great stuff from you as well as gotten a lot of encouragement. I hope you know how much you are helping the woodworking community of the whole world by creating this body of work. I am planning on taking your online courses, but I wanted to remunerate you for the huge amount I have already learned.
Thank you kindly, Penguinista! Your thoughtful words and gesture just made my day! I’m thrilled to know I’ve helped you on your woodturning journey! Keep up the great work! You’re the best. All the best to you and Happy Turning! Kent
Great advice. I've been turning bowls for a couple years and still have just one 1/2" bowl gouge and a "set" my dad bought in the "70"s. I struggled for a year with a 6" bench grinder and home made jigs......finally got the wolverine and a decent grinder; it completely changed the game! Take time and learn to use what you have before spending a ton of money😊
That is awesome, thanks for sharing. Yes, keep it simple at first until you know what you need. Plus, you really don't need that much to get up and running! Happy Turning!
@@wcfields1972 8" is what I have, slow speed Rikon. Not HP but nice to have the larger radius wheel because you get a larger radius hollow on the tool. The old 6" was a high speed and the heat built up really fast. Also good wheels make a huge difference I have upgraded to the CBN wheels now but the stone wheels work fine. Get the best grinder you can afford it just makes life easier. Good luck turning!
Thank you Kent. I have turned a couple segmented bowls, but have a lot of raw wood that i want to use to turn wood bowls. This gives me help in the tools i will need for those projects. Your UA-cam channel is the best I've found and have recommended you and your training to everyone that wants to get into turning. Keep up the great work.
Great video Kent! When I started, not too long ago (after watching MANY videos), I bought a 1/2" swept back gouge and a 5/8" swept back gouge, along with a sharpening system and 8" grinder. I turned quite a few bowls before purchasing my 4 jaw chuck.
Watching these videos helps me to stop looking for things to buy 😂 i've been enticed with lathes almost all year and after I bought one recently I'm trying to not over buy equipment and only get what I need as I go along. You're super helpful. Can't thank you enough! :) I've been doing as much research as I can in my spare time and I'm decided to go with carbide. So long as you do plenty of sanding they seem advantageous for a beginner like me. I bought an average set of chisels on sale that I will use as well. They will be helpful for practicing with sharpening in the future. Dangerous part of wood turning is there are so many cool things I want to buy 😬
Thank you Kent! I'm going to be starting woodturning. I'm on a tight budget, and I found this video VERY informative. I'd love to say this helped me out. Well, I haven't started yet, but the shipping has started! Thank you for being... my future mentor? I look forward to watching many more of your videos. I am actually looking for a lathe on Facebook marketplace. Thinking of that (around $2-300) before I make a final decision on whether I want to continue. There is a Rockler store 5 miles from me, so I plan on visiting them often. They also have (as you may know) turning classes. I'll be attending this as well. Thanks again!
Thank you for writing and sharing, Jeff! It sounds like you have started the engine and are about to take a new adventure. Woohoo. Enjoy! Please remember; persistent, patient practice will yield the bowls you are imagining right now! All the best to you and Happy Turning!
I got into the hobby early 2020 but there is no clubs or people I know that has a lathe in my area, also my budget was nearly non-existant. So I wanted other youtube videos and built a mini/midi sized lathe at home. This is more of a last resort to anyone thinking about it. I have a starter set of classical style tools and a few carbide tools. Sadly no matter what way you get into it you are looking at about $450 for a starter set, as in true beginners set. That rises fast to about 1500 for an acceptable set and goes up even faster for good equipment and tools and thats before the raw materials is accounted. All I am saying is do your homework before jumping in. I love it and spend hours over the week after the kids go to sleep sometimes turning past midnight. I find it relaxing and stimulating at the same time.
I totally agree. Get start at simple as possible. If the wood bowl bug bites you, you will find ways to get the tools and equipment you need. ;) Happy Turning!
Totally with you on this tools to have tutorial, especially the advice on when to buy a sharpening system. I have been turning for only a short time, but have accumulated as many helpful tools of the trade in that period as budget will allow. I struggled with sharpening to a great extent at the beginning and then saw the Tormek system and splashed out for it, right now that is the best investment I could have made. I almost feel like I am cheating having sharp tools that are quick to sharpen and make my early struggles a past memory. I am yet to try carbide tools. Thanks as always, Kent and I am sure many newbies will benefit greatly from this specific video. Take care, stay safe and keep warm over there.
I have been wanting to turn for a while and let me tell you... jumping into it in the middle of a pandemic that precludes close proximity is turning out to be anxiety inducing. Good thing there are channels such as yours.
Excellent article! I’ve turned hundreds of spindles and am now retired and want to turn bowls. What size of a chuck should I buy? (I have the Laguna 15/24 lathe, the tormek sharpening system, etc.)
Great information Kent! My first lathe was an inexpensive Turncrafter (which I still have) and tools to make pens. Wasn't really sure turning was something I wanted to do alot of. Needless to say I got the fever and it became habit forming for me. I now have the Turncrafter for my buffing station, a Jet 1221VS for smaller things and a PM 4224B for most of the rest of my turning. I tried carbide but found I liked traditional tools better. I still use carbide occasionally but have to blow the dust off first! Your non biased information is appreciated and right on! I always gain something from your videos. Thank you! Take carer, Dave
I always find your videos quite interesting and constructive. This one is a reality check and sound information. I easily tempted to try gadgets that i see other use, but I honesty can say that I really didn't needed and it's costly. I love your channel and the tutorial are significantly well delivered. Thank you so much. After 15 years I'm unfortunately set in my ways but I respond well to your recommendations, and I see a difference in my work. Lets say it's more systematic and cleaner faster. Although my work is more féminin, I wonder why? HA! Again I very greatful for your reshaping my woodturning approach, therefore skills. What a gift!
Thank you so much Sylvie. What a compliment! I'm thrilled to have benefited you in some way. All the best to you and I hope you continue to see improvement. Happy Turning!
Loads of great advice here guys. I started on a spring pole lathe with hand chisel's. I have a 12" HF Lathe with about 22 assorted chisels and a hand full of others I made. I've made more money then I have invested, so I'm already ahead lol. One day I hope to have a sweet 16 robust... But not there just yet. Keep on turning 😁
Great video. Note to budget beginners contemplating the 10x18 Harbor freight... Positive: You will be amazed what you can do on this lathe. I've made a ton of bowls and all my own tool handles for both my traditional and homemade carbide tool blanks. Warning: your minimum speed is 750rpm. You have to prebalance your blanks more rigorously. This is not a variable speed lathe but it is worth a look if your funds are limited. You'll have extra money to buy that chuck and quality tools you'll need to get started. Thankyou Kent.
Just a heads up, really late reply, but there is a kit from PSI to make that lathe variable speed and reversible. It costs as much as the lathe but is less expensive than a whole new one. I think it gives you 50-3600 rpm, using the 5 different speed settings gives different ranges with the new motor. Great option if you don't need a bigger lathe but want more control.
I know this is an older video but, I went to the Amazon links in some of the other videos for the bowl gouge you use and they're completely sold out everywhere. It's for the hurricane gouge with the black handle. What's the next best gouge to buy that's not super expensive? I just paid $1,100 on a shopsmith setup and can't afford to buy the $300-$500 gouges that are out there but I don't want one that could either be dangerous or just flat out garbage. Thank you for your videos. They're very informative and helpful. Definitely a new subscriber!
Thanks Kevin. Yes, some of the items go out of stock occasionally, and more so lately with the virus garbage. Buy what you can afford, but avoid the cheap sets and ultra cheap tools. You will waste money and have a bad experience.
Thank you for a very informative talk. You are an interesting speaker as well as a very good instructor. With having to sharpen a bowl gouge so often, how long will they last? I imagine there is a minimum length that is usable. I’m just getting back into turning after almost 40 years and finding I have to relearn a lot. Your channel and website have help immensely! Cheers
Wow, thank you! Each sharpening depends on the wood, and several conditions. As I teach in my Online Tool Sharpening course - pay attention to how the gouge works after a fresh sharpening. You want to keep that performance as long as possible and be alert enough to recognize when the gouge is dulling. Then it's time to resharpen. Happy Turning!
I appreciate that! Thank you! Yup, I'm here for you. Between these videos and my website www.TurnAWoodBowl.com I should have you pretty much covered. ;) Happy Turning!
Hey Michael, I want him as MY personal mentor! ;-) But seriously, I agree. I am greener than a freshly fallen fir tree. I have been watching turning videos for around 2 years now. I want to start turning myself. I'll be closely watching Kent!
Real good advice. You for got one thing .your should mention never whear long sleeve stirts.i wood like to see a video on lining up head stock to the tail stock..I don't like cabins tools.until next time happy turning
Thanks Kent. I like your videos on UA-cam as they are very informative and educational. A question I have is about the chisel sets. The set I have average 18 inches long from tip to tip. I notice turners have a longer handle than the lower priced sets. I am wondering if it is safe to do a pvc sleeve to fit snugly over the wooden handles to make the tool long enough to fit close to the body like some turners use to turn. The pvc I am considering is schedule 40 with at least 1/8 inch thick wall. The pipe will slide over the original wooden handle. I would like to make the wooden part longer to about 24 inches. It would be a press fit if I sleeve it onto the handle. Maybe I could do it temporarily until I turn new handles. An opine would be helpful.
John, that might work. Just make sure you are not leveraging the PVC portion only. I think if you are handling the original handle area, the PVC will give you body contact and that can be beneficial. Hope that helps. All the best to you and Happy Turning!
@@trevsmith4605 Hello, I'm a turner too , (since one year, after 45 years without, but now working 4 or 6 hours a day) I agree with you that it's difficult to find shops in France specialist in wood turning, but some are well known and very serious, They have their own shop and d their website. If you want I may give you some names, and you 'l find their localisation on their sites. For my part, since I live far from these shops, I bought the on the web sites and I'm happy with them. Sincerely. JLH
Awesome video and once again thanks for sharing & directing me to this video.... now I have to go see the other videos you mentioned in this video!! 💪🏻🙌🏻👌🏻
Hello Kent, my name is Jojo, rn by profession and has just rekindled my passion to wood turning after my father passed away. He has thought me how to make a few spindles back in the day when I was on highschool and that was it. Watching all these beautiful products with wood turning on You tube amazed me so I decided to get my feet wet. I'm a newbie when it comes to wood turning and wood work and has just subscribe to your channel recently after finding it out very helpful and informative. I started using carbide chisel and would like to start using bowl gouge . I wonder if you can recommend where to get quality gauges and the sharpening station as well. Thanks a lot.
Hello and thank you for your kind words. I have a couple resources for you; check out my Recommended Equipment section on my website, I detail all the gear I use and recommend turnawoodbowl.com/recommended-equipment/ And if you want to take the frustration out of learning every aspect of turning wood bowls and have a detailed resource checkout my Wood Bowl Turning Start-to-Finish Online eCourse turnawoodbowl.com/wood-bowl-turning-start-to-finish-online-ecourse/ All the best to you and Happy Turning!
Kent Great Video as always. I purchased your tool sharpening video and was wondering if there is a way to sharpen tools that you can no longer get the 2 inch protusion and can't use the varigrind jig.
Yes, if you have access to a metal milling machine, you can flatten the top of the shank to help it accept the vari-grind jig. But, if you're out of shank then you're probably done.
The honing card can work with scrapers, but the compound curves of bowl gouges are best suited for a full sharpening station, like this one. turnawoodbowl.com/how-to-setup-vari-grind-jig-oneway-wolverine-grinding-system/?swcfpc=1 Happy Turning!
Bought one of those multi tool sets for $80 when I started out on the premise I have to learn how to sharpen these tools and I would rather learn on a cheap set than expensive tools costing $60 to $80 each and more. Turns out it was a spindle turning set, haven't seen any sets for bowl turning and the only tools I use consistently are the roughing gouge and parting tool for spindle work.
I make almost all of my cutting tools from old files. The large ones are heavy and they stay sharp but I want the bowl gouge to experiment with a tube cut tool like I could make with a gun barrel. So I will be visiting a gun smith soon. And a long handle helps, the weight on the back end of the tool helps reduce vibrations that can cause damage to the nerves in the hand.
Great advice on tools. Suggest for folks to not buy those tool sets that come with a wide a variety of different gouges. Buy the basics of what you need for the type of turning to be performed. Expand upon the assortment of tools as more experience is developed. When buying tools, buy the best quality that can be afforded. One can also make carbide tools fairly easy if that ‘s the route you want to go. They are easier to use than conventional turning tools, but they do present different issues. They are really scrapers and not cutting tools. Consequently they do not turn as cleanly. Turning speeds are higher with carbide tools. A sharpening system of some sort will need to be purchased to sharpen tools. This is paramount since dull tools are dangerous to use and do not provide a good finish. Cheaper tools using high carbon steel will need to be sharpened more often. This is a big disadvantage of those tools sold a discount tool outlets; though some will say they tools are fair to good. You get what you pay for these days. Many experienced wood turners have a large assortment of tools. In fact, their investment in tools will often exceed what they paid in buying their lathes. But, if the wood turning bug bites you hard, the investment is far out weighed by the enjoyment you receive making wood shavings fly. And you’ll always be looking for that special tool to make your experience more enjoyable. Watching videos like this will only wet your appetite to buy more and more tools as you grow your experience in wood turning. ENJOY!
All great points. I think you summed up this video well. Yes, you can buy thousands of $$$ worth of tools, but start with just the necessary items and build up from there. Thanks for sharing! All the best to you and Happy Turning!
I learned to turn at a “Fab Lab” at a local community college. I just last week found out there is also a local AAW group. I’ve been turning for 2 years now. The pandemic pushed me to get my own lathe and tools.
I have a backsplash which is too close to allow me to start my bowl gouge when making an inside cut. The end of the handle hits the backsplash, before the tool bevel can aligned to the cut. Short of removing the backsplash (which supports my overhead lighting ), what would you recommend? As I see it, (A) two bowl gouges , one with a shallower bevel and the 2nd with a steeper angle to cut the deeper portion of the bowl (B) Run the lathe counter clockwise, which allows the tool handle to swing in an arc on the near side of the lathe. Your thoughts? Thanks, Your videos are extremely easy to follow and understand. You are an excellent teacher.
To be honest, you need to make your work space as functional and safe for turning as possible. If you have a "backsplash" that is preventing your range of motion then that needs to be remove or the lathe needs to be moved. I say do a little rearranging and set yourself up for success! Happy Turning!
@@TurnAWoodBowl Thanks for your reply. I did try cutting a portion of the inside with the lathe running counter clockwise. I was pleasantly surprised at how natural it was having the tool handle next to me rather than at arms reach. It is my understanding that this practice is common in Europe. As for the tool interference, the bowl gouge has been the only tool which causes an issue. Yes I failed to allow for this when I welded up my work station. I'll have to ponder my ultimate decision but at this point I'm leaning towards using the European method.
If you are referring to the headstock spindle, it is measured by the diameter and then the threads per inch count. My lathe is 1-1/4" x 8TPI, which is common. Also 1" x 8TPI is common. Check your manual or try doing a google search for your headstock spindle size based on your lathe make and model.
Excellent video!. Very good production quality and you do well with the presentation. Your description of the different beginner approaches, and how it effects tool decision is spot on. For carbide, I would add that if someone is handy in their shop, shop made handles and insert holders are fairly easy to do and a lot cheaper. The 1st handle can be made without a lathe. I happen to disagree with a 1/2" shaft bowl gouge being the 1st- it should be a 5/8", unless turning miniatures, which would be a 3/8". CBN wheels are not needed, Al Oxide does just fine getting started. I'm disappointed you focused only on dovetail jaws for chucks. Although you may prefer them, serrated and profiled jaws have their advantages, enough that they are my preference. Again, job well done, but the above are why I teach people not to listen/learn from just one source. Accomplished turners have their opinions/preferences, and skip relevant information the new turner should be aware of.
What are the angles for a tenet tool or your cut off tool.? I haven’t done a bowl yet but I have done some small lidded boxes. P.S I like the cabinets on the wall. I assume you made them.
Thanks. Yes, I made those cabinets. The tenon tool angle needs to match your dovetail on your four jaw chuck, but most of them are around 11°. Happy Turning!
@turn a wood bowl i have used a lathe in my shop for many years and i love it but have not yet done a bowl. i have heard so many horror stories about the dangers of bowl turning. can i request a video that addresses this issue specifically. i would ask that it discusses both tool related and technique related dangers. it would be extremely helpful if i could find this information in one video and might just give me the confidence to start turning bowls.
Well, the real answer is you need to put together a whole series of skills and techniques in order to avoid "issues." Check out my Online eCourse for a complete guide of how to properly turn a wood bowl and avoid many of these issues in the process. www.TurnAWoodBowl.com/turn Happy Turning!
Thanks! Getting back in to turning now and needed this. Very timely for me. ( And,,,,it’s partly your fault! Lol) Have been greatly enjoying your videos!!
Kent, I just stumbled across your channel. I've watched 3 of your videos and picked up several great tips. I like the way you explain and demo. You just got a new subscriber. I'm new to subscriptions on UA-cam, is this the best way to contact you? I didn't see a way on your website. BTW please put me down for the bowl give away in July.
Thanks for watching and welcome aboard! Here or you can leave comments on articles in my site www.TurnAWoodBowl.com Sorry that bowl is spoken for already. Happy Turning!
I have my own lathe a bowl gouge But I dnt have a sharpening system and its not eady so... Guys listen well and buy your own sharpening system first!! And tnx buddy for your tips❤👍🏻
One thought, you said something about buying a sharpening system before the lathe, although a sharpening system is great, you could get away with a $20 set of diamond sharpening plates to start off. Mind you, something like the wolverine sharpening system is a complete game changer, I'm a newbie, about a year in, and until last week I sharpened completely by hand, an early Christmas gift of the Wolverine System has definitely ignited a passion and allowed me to realise that ultimate dream of having ribbons of wood flying across my shop from my bowl gouge!
Yes, that's possible. However, it is very difficult to properly sharpen bowl gouges by hand. The amount of frustration might discourage most people. If you can do it, all the more power to you! Happy Turning!
@@TurnAWoodBowl Very true, and to be honest, I'm not sure mine was ever properly sharpened, of course I didn't really know that until I got the grinder and Wolverine.
You can, it might give you an opportunity to see what you think or turning in general. I've heard of people using and enjoying their lathes. Happy Turning!
Hi Sindee, I purchased a Harbor Freight lathe a few months ago (with a two year replacement warrantee) and it works great. You want to be sure to turn the speed down before turning it off to reduce the start-up load. It is quite possible to bog down if you try to take a big cut. I have turned many bowls that are almost 12" in diameter, and some larger pieces by turning the headstock outboard.
Actually the first tool you need is the lathe itself. Actually I did not spend much on my carbide tools. All I bought was the inserts and made the holders from scrap metal I had around. Made several different combinations of these.
Recently I was researching steel because I make a lot of my own tools and came across a few woodworking forums and apparently unless you have 20-30 tools costing $300-400 each you just can't turn a bowl. Makes me wonder how I've been making bowls all this time!
Suggestion for beginners: There are lots of used lathes available on Craig's list & Facebook marketplace. Ask the seller about tools, grinder, chucks that go with the lathe. Often they are selling "dad's old shop equipment" and don't know what tools go together. If you know you're gonna go "all in" on woodturning it'll be way cheaper to get many items together. Chuck w
I started with a lathe intended for turning veranda pillars, a machine my Grandfather found in the 1920’s, in a shed left over from the gold rush. It was clumsy, underpowered, and frustrating to use, but FUN! Some of the old guys tools were handmade from bits of HSS brazed to steel rods, and homemade handles of course. And I didn’t even have a bowl gouge! I have a modern machine now, and modern tools. But every once in a while I start the old girl up and turn a few four foot spindles, just for the history of it.
Wow that sounds amazing! How cool. Some of those old machines are incredible. I wonder if there are old lathes built for bowl factories and what they must have looked like? All the best to you and Happy Turning!
Woodturning is like crack cocaine. Just a few more tools... Just a couple more chucks.. maybe one more gouge.... I was moderately interested a couple years ago, now I turn whenever I'm not working, sleeping,or eating. It's addictive as hell.
You're right on track. The spindle detail gouge can be used for small areas of detail but not to remove large areas of material. See my bowl gouge vs spindle gouge video. Happy Turning!
Great information. I started out with a very basic old lathe. Then I saw one at Harbor Freight. This is a great lathe for starting out. Has all the features I need. I got mine for $324 with a coupon. Check it out.
The Pandemic must not exist where you live. New Mexico is still shut down. I sent an email to the local turning club, no return, nada. I doubt that watching someone turn is not in my future. I will just have to go out and buy a lathe and learn how to do it myself, like everything else in woodworking I have done in the last year and a half. My other problem is my age. I am 71 years old, and if it is going to take me 10 years to get proficient at this, then this is not something I should do. I would appreciate any feedback you might provide.
I started with carbide cutters then switched to traditional tools. There is NO question you get a better cut with traditional tools. I still use my carbide periodically but love my traditional tools much more. Well said Kent!
Carbides are a fantastic route to go when starting out.
Totally agree! Rock on! Happy Turning!
Yea I use both. I've only been going to a month. But there's not even a comparison
New to turning, been carpenter and woodworker for several decades. Good information here, thank you.
Thank you very much for all the help. There are a lot of sources of information on UA-cam about wood turning, but you are among the best for sure!
I have learned so much great stuff from you as well as gotten a lot of encouragement. I hope you know how much you are helping the woodworking community of the whole world by creating this body of work. I am planning on taking your online courses, but I wanted to remunerate you for the huge amount I have already learned.
Thank you kindly, Penguinista! Your thoughtful words and gesture just made my day! I’m thrilled to know I’ve helped you on your woodturning journey! Keep up the great work! You’re the best. All the best to you and Happy Turning! Kent
Great advice. I've been turning bowls for a couple years and still have just one 1/2" bowl gouge and a "set" my dad bought in the "70"s. I struggled for a year with a 6" bench grinder and home made jigs......finally got the wolverine and a decent grinder; it completely changed the game! Take time and learn to use what you have before spending a ton of money😊
That is awesome, thanks for sharing. Yes, keep it simple at first until you know what you need. Plus, you really don't need that much to get up and running! Happy Turning!
Wannabe turner here: so you wouldn't suggest a 6" grinder? May I ask why not? Is it a matter of hp? Or more size and/ or angle ability?
@@wcfields1972 8" is what I have, slow speed Rikon. Not HP but nice to have the larger radius wheel because you get a larger radius hollow on the tool. The old 6" was a high speed and the heat built up really fast. Also good wheels make a huge difference I have upgraded to the CBN wheels now but the stone wheels work fine. Get the best grinder you can afford it just makes life easier. Good luck turning!
Thank you Kent. I have turned a couple segmented bowls, but have a lot of raw wood that i want to use to turn wood bowls. This gives me help in the tools i will need for those projects.
Your UA-cam channel is the best I've found and have recommended you and your training to everyone that wants to get into turning. Keep up the great work.
Thank you, David! All the best to you and Happy Turning!
Great video Kent! When I started, not too long ago (after watching MANY videos), I bought a 1/2" swept back gouge and a 5/8" swept back gouge, along with a sharpening system and 8" grinder. I turned quite a few bowls before purchasing my 4 jaw chuck.
That is awesome! That's the way to do it. Makes you really appreciate that chuck too! ;) Happy Turning!
I like safety information, very important for the craft and will help many of us, so thanks Kent.
Right on, William! Happy (safe) Turning!
Watching these videos helps me to stop looking for things to buy 😂 i've been enticed with lathes almost all year and after I bought one recently I'm trying to not over buy equipment and only get what I need as I go along. You're super helpful. Can't thank you enough! :)
I've been doing as much research as I can in my spare time and I'm decided to go with carbide. So long as you do plenty of sanding they seem advantageous for a beginner like me. I bought an average set of chisels on sale that I will use as well. They will be helpful for practicing with sharpening in the future. Dangerous part of wood turning is there are so many cool things I want to buy 😬
LOL, dangerous for you wallet, that is. LOL It sounds like you have a solid plan. All the best to you and Happy Turning!
Thank you Kent! I'm going to be starting woodturning. I'm on a tight budget, and I found this video VERY informative. I'd love to say this helped me out. Well, I haven't started yet, but the shipping has started! Thank you for being... my future mentor? I look forward to watching many more of your videos. I am actually looking for a lathe on Facebook marketplace. Thinking of that (around $2-300) before I make a final decision on whether I want to continue. There is a Rockler store 5 miles from me, so I plan on visiting them often. They also have (as you may know) turning classes. I'll be attending this as well.
Thanks again!
Thank you for writing and sharing, Jeff! It sounds like you have started the engine and are about to take a new adventure. Woohoo. Enjoy! Please remember; persistent, patient practice will yield the bowls you are imagining right now! All the best to you and Happy Turning!
I got into the hobby early 2020 but there is no clubs or people I know that has a lathe in my area, also my budget was nearly non-existant. So I wanted other youtube videos and built a mini/midi sized lathe at home. This is more of a last resort to anyone thinking about it. I have a starter set of classical style tools and a few carbide tools. Sadly no matter what way you get into it you are looking at about $450 for a starter set, as in true beginners set. That rises fast to about 1500 for an acceptable set and goes up even faster for good equipment and tools and thats before the raw materials is accounted. All I am saying is do your homework before jumping in. I love it and spend hours over the week after the kids go to sleep sometimes turning past midnight. I find it relaxing and stimulating at the same time.
Same here!
I totally agree. Get start at simple as possible. If the wood bowl bug bites you, you will find ways to get the tools and equipment you need. ;) Happy Turning!
Lots of good advice in this video. I highly recommend it to new turners.
Thank you, Kent!
Totally with you on this tools to have tutorial, especially the advice on when to buy a sharpening system. I have been turning for only a short time, but have accumulated as many helpful tools of the trade in that period as budget will allow. I struggled with sharpening to a great extent at the beginning and then saw the Tormek system and splashed out for it, right now that is the best investment I could have made. I almost feel like I am cheating having sharp tools that are quick to sharpen and make my early struggles a past memory. I am yet to try carbide tools. Thanks as always, Kent and I am sure many newbies will benefit greatly from this specific video. Take care, stay safe and keep warm over there.
David, thanks for writing and sharing your story, much appreciated! Happy Turning!
Thanks, John Locke. Great video!
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I have been wanting to turn for a while and let me tell you... jumping into it in the middle of a pandemic that precludes close proximity is turning out to be anxiety inducing. Good thing there are channels such as yours.
Wonderful! You might want to check this out too. www.TurnAWoodBowl.com/turn Happy Turning!
Excellent article! I’ve turned hundreds of spindles and am now retired and want to turn bowls. What size of a chuck should I buy? (I have the Laguna 15/24 lathe, the tormek sharpening system, etc.)
This is a good starting point amzn.to/47Q7cFd Happy Turning!
I’m just starting and I really appreciate the video. It really helps me to get started.
Glad to help Tom. Happy Turning!
Great information Kent! My first lathe was an inexpensive Turncrafter (which I still have) and tools to make pens. Wasn't really sure turning was something I wanted to do alot of. Needless to say I got the fever and it became habit forming for me. I now have the Turncrafter for my buffing station, a Jet 1221VS for smaller things and a PM 4224B for most of the rest of my turning. I tried carbide but found I liked traditional tools better. I still use carbide occasionally but have to blow the dust off first!
Your non biased information is appreciated and right on! I always gain something from your videos. Thank you!
Take carer, Dave
Dave, thank you and I like the idea of repurposing a smaller lathe as a buffing station. Happy Turning!
superb and informative video Thank you very much.
Thanks Kent!
;) Happy Turning!
I started off with carbide, I was having a heck of a time with tear out. I switched to a 1/2 bowl gouge.
I always find your videos quite interesting and constructive. This one is a reality check and sound information. I easily tempted to try gadgets that i see other use, but I honesty can say that I really didn't needed and it's costly. I love your channel and the tutorial are significantly well delivered. Thank you so much. After 15 years I'm unfortunately set in my ways but I respond well to your recommendations, and I see a difference in my work. Lets say it's more systematic and cleaner faster. Although my work is more féminin, I wonder why? HA! Again I very greatful for your reshaping my woodturning approach, therefore skills. What a gift!
Thank you so much Sylvie. What a compliment! I'm thrilled to have benefited you in some way. All the best to you and I hope you continue to see improvement. Happy Turning!
Yes,,, I agree with the others. Your channel is great
Awesome! So glad you are gaining knowledge from these videos. Thank you! Happy Turning!
Loads of great advice here guys. I started on a spring pole lathe with hand chisel's. I have a 12" HF Lathe with about 22 assorted chisels and a hand full of others I made. I've made more money then I have invested, so I'm already ahead lol. One day I hope to have a sweet 16 robust... But not there just yet. Keep on turning 😁
Keep on turning, you'll get there. All the best to you and Happy Turning!
Great advice, Kent.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great video. Note to budget beginners contemplating the 10x18 Harbor freight... Positive: You will be amazed what you can do on this lathe. I've made a ton of bowls and all my own tool handles for both my traditional and homemade carbide tool blanks. Warning: your minimum speed is 750rpm. You have to prebalance your blanks more rigorously. This is not a variable speed lathe but it is worth a look if your funds are limited. You'll have extra money to buy that chuck and quality tools you'll need to get started. Thankyou Kent.
Excellent, thanks for sharing! Happy Turning!
Just a heads up, really late reply, but there is a kit from PSI to make that lathe variable speed and reversible. It costs as much as the lathe but is less expensive than a whole new one. I think it gives you 50-3600 rpm, using the 5 different speed settings gives different ranges with the new motor. Great option if you don't need a bigger lathe but want more control.
Hey Kent, I just finished watching your E-course on sharpening. Very nice 👍 very helpful. Thanks
Awesome, thank you! Glad you like the eCourse! Thanks and Happy Turning!
Well informed information Kent thanks 😊
Thank you, Pat! Happy Turning!
Nice review. Thanks for sharing.
My pleasure Lou! Happy Turning!
Right on. I have a lot of tools, most of which I never use.
Thanks for sharing.
INCREDIBLE info,,, new shopping list created,,, thank you
Great to hear! Enjoy and Happy Turning!
Id love to see you making a tenon with a parting tool. Ive heard its possible but I've get to see it done on video and im interested in trying it
I'll see what I can do. Happy Turning!
I know this is an older video but, I went to the Amazon links in some of the other videos for the bowl gouge you use and they're completely sold out everywhere. It's for the hurricane gouge with the black handle. What's the next best gouge to buy that's not super expensive? I just paid $1,100 on a shopsmith setup and can't afford to buy the $300-$500 gouges that are out there but I don't want one that could either be dangerous or just flat out garbage. Thank you for your videos. They're very informative and helpful. Definitely a new subscriber!
Thanks Kevin. Yes, some of the items go out of stock occasionally, and more so lately with the virus garbage. Buy what you can afford, but avoid the cheap sets and ultra cheap tools. You will waste money and have a bad experience.
Great info and good outlook/approach. Thanks!
Glad it was helpful! Happy Turning!
Thank you for a very informative talk. You are an interesting speaker as well as a very good instructor. With having to sharpen a bowl gouge so often, how long will they last? I imagine there is a minimum length that is usable. I’m just getting back into turning after almost 40 years and finding I have to relearn a lot. Your channel and website have help immensely! Cheers
Wow, thank you! Each sharpening depends on the wood, and several conditions. As I teach in my Online Tool Sharpening course - pay attention to how the gouge works after a fresh sharpening. You want to keep that performance as long as possible and be alert enough to recognize when the gouge is dulling. Then it's time to resharpen. Happy Turning!
Another great informational video! Honestly wish I could have you as an in-person mentor. Guess YT will have to do.
I appreciate that! Thank you! Yup, I'm here for you. Between these videos and my website www.TurnAWoodBowl.com I should have you pretty much covered. ;) Happy Turning!
Hey Michael, I want him as MY personal mentor! ;-)
But seriously, I agree. I am greener than a freshly fallen fir tree. I have been watching turning videos for around 2 years now. I want to start turning myself. I'll be closely watching Kent!
Real good advice. You for got one thing .your should mention never whear long sleeve stirts.i wood like to see a video on lining up head stock to the tail stock..I don't like cabins tools.until next time happy turning
Very correct, no long sleeves. That's a different video. ;) Happy Turning!
This is a very informative video
Glad it was helpful! Happy Turning!
Folks, one thing for sure about Kent's website and YT vids are they are well organized. And no BS. Thanks Kent🙏 Stay safe. -Mike😷⏳💉
I appreciate that, thank you and Happy Turning!
Can I ask for a video of how to transition the inside of a bowl from wall to bottom I’m leaving a line I can remove Thanks
Yes you can! As a matter of fact, that video is in production now and should be out in a few weeks. Stay tuned! Happy Turning!
Thanks Kent. I like your videos on UA-cam as they are very informative and educational. A question I have is about the chisel sets. The set I have average 18 inches long from tip to tip. I notice turners have a longer handle than the lower priced sets. I am wondering if it is safe to do a pvc sleeve to fit snugly over the wooden handles to make the tool long enough to fit close to the body like some turners use to turn. The pvc I am considering is schedule 40 with at least 1/8 inch thick wall. The pipe will slide over the original wooden handle. I would like to make the wooden part longer to about 24 inches. It would be a press fit if I sleeve it onto the handle. Maybe I could do it temporarily until I turn new handles. An opine would be helpful.
John, that might work. Just make sure you are not leveraging the PVC portion only. I think if you are handling the original handle area, the PVC will give you body contact and that can be beneficial. Hope that helps. All the best to you and Happy Turning!
Hi from France Kent, I always appreciate your videos, plenty of good councils, and besides for me, a pleasant way to improve my English language. 👍
I live in France too just started turning find it hard to find shops here which sell tools etc other than online
@@trevsmith4605 Hello, I'm a turner too , (since one year, after 45 years without, but now working 4 or 6 hours a day) I agree with you that it's difficult to find shops in France specialist in wood turning, but some are well known and very serious, They have their own shop and d their website. If you want I may give you some names, and you 'l find their localisation on their sites. For my part, since I live far from these shops, I bought the on the web sites and I'm happy with them. Sincerely. JLH
@@jean-louishoules5198 thank you I'm not native french speaker either so that doesnt help. Yea im happy for any advice
Excellent. Thank you for sharing. All the best to you and Happy Turning!
Awesome video and once again thanks for sharing & directing me to this video.... now I have to go see the other videos you mentioned in this video!! 💪🏻🙌🏻👌🏻
Awesome! Thank you! All the best to you and Happy Turning!
Hello Kent, my name is Jojo, rn by profession and has just rekindled my passion to wood turning after my father passed away. He has thought me how to make a few spindles back in the day when I was on highschool and that was it. Watching all these beautiful products with wood turning on You tube amazed me so I decided to get my feet wet.
I'm a newbie when it comes to wood turning and wood work and has just subscribe to your channel recently after finding it out very helpful and informative. I started using carbide chisel and would like to start using bowl gouge . I wonder if you can recommend where to get quality gauges and the sharpening station as well. Thanks a lot.
JOJO! I loved your movie!
@@canadiangemstones7636 Thanks 😊
Hello and thank you for your kind words. I have a couple resources for you; check out my Recommended Equipment section on my website, I detail all the gear I use and recommend turnawoodbowl.com/recommended-equipment/ And if you want to take the frustration out of learning every aspect of turning wood bowls and have a detailed resource checkout my Wood Bowl Turning Start-to-Finish Online eCourse turnawoodbowl.com/wood-bowl-turning-start-to-finish-online-ecourse/ All the best to you and Happy Turning!
Thanks again Ken...I can't wait to check it out after work today. Merry Christmas 🎄
Kent Great Video as always. I purchased your tool sharpening video and was wondering if there is a way to sharpen tools that you can no longer get the 2 inch protusion and can't use the varigrind jig.
Yes, if you have access to a metal milling machine, you can flatten the top of the shank to help it accept the vari-grind jig. But, if you're out of shank then you're probably done.
I was given a carbide scraper and it was fun. Traditional tools are a large step above in my opinion. I leave the carbide to acrylics only .
Do what works for you. All the best to you and Happy Turning!
I just bought a Wen lathe, bench top. I would like to get a stand for it. Do you think I can just get the double sided credit card sharpening hone?
The honing card can work with scrapers, but the compound curves of bowl gouges are best suited for a full sharpening station, like this one. turnawoodbowl.com/how-to-setup-vari-grind-jig-oneway-wolverine-grinding-system/?swcfpc=1 Happy Turning!
Bought one of those multi tool sets for $80 when I started out on the premise I have to learn how to sharpen these tools and I would rather learn on a cheap set than expensive tools costing $60 to $80 each and more. Turns out it was a spindle turning set, haven't seen any sets for bowl turning and the only tools I use consistently are the roughing gouge and parting tool for spindle work.
Thanks for sharing. Yes, the cheaper sets are usually "genera;" tools and not specific to wood bowl turning. Happy Turning!
Thank you so much for this video! This helped me so much!
Awesome! You're so welcome! Happy Turning!
SHOP GOALS !!
Goals are great! Happy Turning!
Newbie question, is the gouge measured at the outside dia. or across the flute.
Yes and No. LOL ;) Sorry. In the U.S. we measure the exterior of the shaft. I believe in the UK they measure the flute width. Happy Turning!
I make almost all of my cutting tools from old files. The large ones are heavy and they stay sharp but I want the bowl gouge to experiment with a tube cut tool like I could make with a gun barrel. So I will be visiting a gun smith soon. And a long handle helps, the weight on the back end of the tool helps reduce vibrations that can cause damage to the nerves in the hand.
I just recently watched Robohippy's video on turning a bowl with scrapers, fascinating!
Great advice on tools. Suggest for folks to not buy those tool sets that come with a wide a variety of different gouges. Buy the basics of what you need for the type of turning to be performed. Expand upon the assortment of tools as more experience is developed. When buying tools, buy the best quality that can be afforded. One can also make carbide tools fairly easy if that ‘s the route you want to go. They are easier to use than conventional turning tools, but they do present different issues. They are really scrapers and not cutting tools. Consequently they do not turn as cleanly. Turning speeds are higher with carbide tools.
A sharpening system of some sort will need to be purchased to sharpen tools. This is paramount since dull tools are dangerous to use and do not provide a good finish.
Cheaper tools using high carbon steel will need to be sharpened more often. This is a big disadvantage of those tools sold a discount tool outlets; though some will say they tools are fair to good. You get what you pay for these days.
Many experienced wood turners have a large assortment of tools. In fact, their investment in tools will often exceed what they paid in buying their lathes. But, if the wood turning bug bites you hard, the investment is far out weighed by the enjoyment you receive making wood shavings fly. And you’ll always be looking for that special tool to make your experience more enjoyable. Watching videos like this will only wet your appetite to buy more and more tools as you grow your experience in wood turning. ENJOY!
All great points. I think you summed up this video well. Yes, you can buy thousands of $$$ worth of tools, but start with just the necessary items and build up from there. Thanks for sharing! All the best to you and Happy Turning!
I learned to turn at a “Fab Lab” at a local community college. I just last week found out there is also a local AAW group. I’ve been turning for 2 years now. The pandemic pushed me to get my own lathe and tools.
Awesome. Yes, join that local group. You'll probably have fun. All the best to you and Happy Turning!
I have a backsplash which is too close to allow me to start my bowl gouge when making an inside cut. The end of the handle hits the backsplash, before the tool bevel can aligned to the cut. Short of removing the backsplash (which supports my overhead lighting ), what would you recommend? As I see it, (A) two bowl gouges , one with a shallower bevel and the 2nd with a steeper angle to cut the deeper portion of the bowl (B) Run the lathe counter clockwise, which allows the tool handle to swing in an arc on the near side of the lathe. Your thoughts? Thanks, Your videos are extremely easy to follow and understand. You are an excellent teacher.
To be honest, you need to make your work space as functional and safe for turning as possible. If you have a "backsplash" that is preventing your range of motion then that needs to be remove or the lathe needs to be moved. I say do a little rearranging and set yourself up for success! Happy Turning!
@@TurnAWoodBowl Thanks for your reply. I did try cutting a portion of the inside with the lathe running counter clockwise. I was pleasantly surprised at how natural it was having the tool handle next to me rather than at arms reach. It is my understanding that this practice is common in Europe. As for the tool interference, the bowl gouge has been the only tool which causes an issue. Yes I failed to allow for this when I welded up my work station. I'll have to ponder my ultimate decision but at this point I'm leaning towards using the European method.
How would I find the size of the spindle? Wanna get a chuck but cant find the right size and wondering if I might be measuring it wrong
If you are referring to the headstock spindle, it is measured by the diameter and then the threads per inch count. My lathe is 1-1/4" x 8TPI, which is common. Also 1" x 8TPI is common. Check your manual or try doing a google search for your headstock spindle size based on your lathe make and model.
I'm a tool junkie and I love to get new tools.
I think we all are. ;) Happy Turning!
Excellent video!. Very good production quality and you do well with the presentation. Your description of the different beginner approaches, and how it effects tool decision is spot on. For carbide, I would add that if someone is handy in their shop, shop made handles and insert holders are fairly easy to do and a lot cheaper. The 1st handle can be made without a lathe. I happen to disagree with a 1/2" shaft bowl gouge being the 1st- it should be a 5/8", unless turning miniatures, which would be a 3/8". CBN wheels are not needed, Al Oxide does just fine getting started. I'm disappointed you focused only on dovetail jaws for chucks. Although you may prefer them, serrated and profiled jaws have their advantages, enough that they are my preference. Again, job well done, but the above are why I teach people not to listen/learn from just one source. Accomplished turners have their opinions/preferences, and skip relevant information the new turner should be aware of.
Sounds good, Doug. Yes, there are many approaches that work. I appreciate your thoughts. All the best to you and Happy Turning!
What are the angles for a tenet tool or your cut off tool.? I haven’t done a bowl yet but I have done some small lidded boxes. P.S I like the cabinets on the wall. I assume you made them.
Thanks. Yes, I made those cabinets. The tenon tool angle needs to match your dovetail on your four jaw chuck, but most of them are around 11°. Happy Turning!
Love my 1221vs.
Yes, it's a great lathe. Happy Turning!
@turn a wood bowl
i have used a lathe in my shop for many years and i love it but have not yet done a bowl. i have heard so many horror stories about the dangers of bowl turning. can i request a video that addresses this issue specifically. i would ask that it discusses both tool related and technique related dangers. it would be extremely helpful if i could find this information in one video and might just give me the confidence to start turning bowls.
Well, the real answer is you need to put together a whole series of skills and techniques in order to avoid "issues." Check out my Online eCourse for a complete guide of how to properly turn a wood bowl and avoid many of these issues in the process. www.TurnAWoodBowl.com/turn Happy Turning!
Thanks! Getting back in to turning now and needed this. Very timely for me. ( And,,,,it’s partly your fault! Lol) Have been greatly enjoying your videos!!
Thank you! I'll take all the blame. LOL Happy Turning!
Kent,
I just stumbled across your channel. I've watched 3 of your videos and picked up several great tips. I like the way you explain and demo. You just got a new subscriber. I'm new to subscriptions on UA-cam, is this the best way to contact you? I didn't see a way on your website. BTW please put me down for the bowl give away in July.
Thanks for watching and welcome aboard! Here or you can leave comments on articles in my site www.TurnAWoodBowl.com Sorry that bowl is spoken for already. Happy Turning!
What size detail spindle gouge?
3/8"
I have my own lathe a bowl gouge
But
I dnt have a sharpening system and its not eady so...
Guys listen well and buy your own sharpening system first!!
And tnx buddy for your tips❤👍🏻
Thanks for sharing! Yes, it seems counter intuitive, but the sharpening system is the best first purchase. All the best to you and Happy Turning!
Your sub count does not represent the quality of your videos you make fantastic educational and great quality videos I enjoy them a lot thanks Kent
I appreciate that! Just started rolling these out six months or so ago. It's growing. Help me spread the word! Thanks and Happy Turning!
I’m the second one. That’s why I bought a lathe in the first place. But now that I have one I want to learn how to use it.
Where do get your smock?
Boom. amzn.to/3bk615w There you go. These guys have them back in stock. They were sold out for a long time.
One thought, you said something about buying a sharpening system before the lathe, although a sharpening system is great, you could get away with a $20 set of diamond sharpening plates to start off. Mind you, something like the wolverine sharpening system is a complete game changer, I'm a newbie, about a year in, and until last week I sharpened completely by hand, an early Christmas gift of the Wolverine System has definitely ignited a passion and allowed me to realise that ultimate dream of having ribbons of wood flying across my shop from my bowl gouge!
Yes, that's possible. However, it is very difficult to properly sharpen bowl gouges by hand. The amount of frustration might discourage most people. If you can do it, all the more power to you! Happy Turning!
@@TurnAWoodBowl
Very true, and to be honest, I'm not sure mine was ever properly sharpened, of course I didn't really know that until I got the grinder and Wolverine.
I want to start turning. I don’t have lots of money. Can I start with a harbor freate lathe.
You can, it might give you an opportunity to see what you think or turning in general. I've heard of people using and enjoying their lathes. Happy Turning!
Hi Sindee, I purchased a Harbor Freight lathe a few months ago (with a two year replacement warrantee) and it works great. You want to be sure to turn the speed down before turning it off to reduce the start-up load. It is quite possible to bog down if you try to take a big cut. I have turned many bowls that are almost 12" in diameter, and some larger pieces by turning the headstock outboard.
Actually the first tool you need is the lathe itself. Actually I did not spend much on my carbide tools. All I bought was the inserts and made the holders from scrap metal I had around. Made several different combinations of these.
Nice. Happy Turning!
Recently I was researching steel because I make a lot of my own tools and came across a few woodworking forums and apparently unless you have 20-30 tools costing $300-400 each you just can't turn a bowl. Makes me wonder how I've been making bowls all this time!
Suggestion for beginners: There are lots of used lathes available on Craig's list & Facebook marketplace. Ask the seller about
tools, grinder, chucks that go with the lathe. Often they are selling "dad's old shop equipment" and don't know what tools go together. If you know you're gonna go "all in" on woodturning it'll be way cheaper to get many items together. Chuck w
Great suggestion. Thanks for sharing! Happy Turning!
Thanks Kent, been turning for about a year now and love it, look forward to seeing your videos for new information and ideas. Again thank you
Good to hear Chip. Thank you, and Happy Turning! Kent
Ronda P Sandy Valley Nevada. Tool sharpening.
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I started with a lathe intended for turning veranda pillars, a machine my Grandfather found in the 1920’s, in a shed left over from the gold rush. It was clumsy, underpowered, and frustrating to use, but FUN! Some of the old guys tools were handmade from bits of HSS brazed to steel rods, and homemade handles of course. And I didn’t even have a bowl gouge! I have a modern machine now, and modern tools. But every once in a while I start the old girl up and turn a few four foot spindles, just for the history of it.
Wow that sounds amazing! How cool. Some of those old machines are incredible. I wonder if there are old lathes built for bowl factories and what they must have looked like? All the best to you and Happy Turning!
Sharpening gear will be here tomorrow. Lathe ships next week.
It's getting exciting for you! Enjoy and Happy Turning!
Woodturning is like crack cocaine. Just a few more tools... Just a couple more chucks.. maybe one more gouge.... I was moderately interested a couple years ago, now I turn whenever I'm not working, sleeping,or eating. It's addictive as hell.
Yes indeed, Jacob. LOL All the best to you and Happy Turning!
@@TurnAWoodBowl thanks man! Blessings and love from Upstate New York ✌️❤️💛💚
Ronda P Sandy Valley Nevada. Tool sharpening
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Maybe I'm missing something here. I can use bowl gouges on spindles, but not spindle gouges on bowls. Why would I need spindle gouges at all?
You're right on track. The spindle detail gouge can be used for small areas of detail but not to remove large areas of material. See my bowl gouge vs spindle gouge video. Happy Turning!
David H Chattaroy WA Tool Sharpening
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You scared me there at the beginning!
How so?
Like Edward Scissorhands.
I’ve deleted fb, are you on MeWe yet. I’m following on you tube.
Not yet. Remember to go directly to my website too www.TurnAWoodBowl.com Tons of info there for you. Thanks. Happy Turning!
Great information. I started out with a very basic old lathe. Then I saw one at Harbor Freight. This is a great lathe for starting out. Has all the features I need. I got mine for $324 with a coupon. Check it out.
Sounds like a fantastic deal! Enjoy and Happy Turning!
I did it too. This is what I used Woodglut designs for
The Pandemic must not exist where you live. New Mexico is still shut down. I sent an email to the local turning club, no return, nada. I doubt that watching someone turn is not in my future. I will just have to go out and buy a lathe and learn how to do it myself, like everything else in woodworking I have done in the last year and a half. My other problem is my age. I am 71 years old, and if it is going to take me 10 years to get proficient at this, then this is not something I should do. I would appreciate any feedback you might provide.
I made the mistake of buying cheap at first
Yeah, we all do that to some extent
@@TurnAWoodBowl ive made up for it and probably got way more than i will ever need now
Another cost sandpaper and finishes
Yes, good point! Happy Turning!