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The Detroit Tigers: The Modern Tragedy
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- Опубліковано 26 чер 2019
- What if you were someone that did everything in their power to make sure a certain outcome would be achieved? Say hoping to get a certain job or making it into a prestigious organization or university. What would happen if no matter what you did, the reality would never come to pass? Nothing you do would ever be good enough, despite endless money and starpower being thrown at it.
This was the Detroit Tigers and Mike Ilitch: A man who would stop at nothing to win a World Series title. Despite his efforts and near-infinite spending, he would never be able to achieve his final goal. As time passed, the lingering ambition would turn into outright madness. Some might say the Tigers are still reeling from these failed ambitions, but what is true is that the great teams they fielded during these years may be forgotten in time.
Why?
They never won a championship, despite the efforts from ownership and management.
This is the story of the Detroit Tigers, what I call the modern tragedy in sports.
It's 5 AM. I haven't sleep in over 20 hours. About to rest when I see a UrinatingTree video on the Detroit Tigers. Thank you God.
sgaxnikolaix661 damn. That ending of the video though...
Another reason to live another day.
@@DeLisi. not today, old friend
Detroit as a whole is kind of a modern tragedy.
Same two years later
Starting Rotation at one point in time:
Scherzer: Cy Young winner
Verlander: Cy Young winner
Price: Cy Young winner
Porcello: Future Cy Young winner
Sanchez: solid. Always.
You look me in the face and tell me you wouldn't shit you pants by hearing that rotation, you'd think it's a fucking all star game.
And, amazingly, that got nothing to show for it. It's literally heart-breaking.
you could describe Anibal as "ERA title, one of the deadliest changeups in the game and would've been an ace on 80% of the other teams".
@@reintaler6355 also, the sole holder of the Tigers single-game strikeout record. His 2013 season was insane. I remember watching the game when he set the record. The Braves looked like little league kids swinging at pitches in the dirt.
They all have each a World Series title.
Porcello is overrated
He had one maybe two good years....other than that his ERA was always over 4.00....just a average pitcher.
Tigers since 2003:
2003: 43-119
2004: 72-90
2005: 71-91
2006: 95-67 (loses the world series in 5 to the cardinals)
2007: 88-74 (misses the playoffs)
2008: 74-88
2009: 86-77 (loses game 163 to the twins)
2010: 81-81
2011: 95-67 (gets massacred by the rangers in the alcs)
2012: 88-74 (gets swept in the world series by the giants)
2013: 93-69 (loses in the alcs to the red sox)
2014: 90-72 (gets swept by the Orioles in the alds)
2015: 74-87 (dave dombrowski gets fired because Illitch wants a world series ring before he dies)
2016: 86-75 (misses out on the wild card)
Feburary 2017: Mike Ilitch dies
2017-present: the team dies with ilitch
2017: start of the long rebuild
2017: justin verlander wins a world series with the astros
2018: ian kinsler, j.d. Martinez, rick Porcello, david price, and dave Dombrowski win a world series with the red sox
2019: max Scherzer, Anibal Sanchez, and Fernando Rodney win a world series with the nationals
Dombrowski didn't try to rebuild. He blew up the team for no reason and made questionable trades like the Fister trade. He also ruined the Tigers' farm system, which was why he got fired. He also destroyed Boston's farm as well and got ousted.
@@alexjones3511 Granted I'm not a baseball fan, and even Urinatingtree himself was confused by the Fister trade as you can see in the video, but still, didn't he sell at the deadline to get more prospects right before the firing as was shown in the video? I'm not saying you're wrong or anything (heck, Urinatingtree even said in another video that Dombrowski with all his success also had his fair share of high profile f*** ups), it was just a thought.
Harry Engel I don’t think the Tigers and Redwings were that small market of teams they aren’t big market teams but they aren’t incredibly small market either.
This timeline hurt me.
2020: Ron Gardenhire, manager behind the Twins that cheated death retires. Team is nearly lost at sea as they may already be failing to develop players.
This was hard to watch. Rest in peace Mr. Ilitch; you did everything you could.
Mike "Pizza For a Buck" Illitch. One of the Kindest, most Coolest Pizza Moguls to come out of Detroit.
The Dude PAID for Rosa Park's Rent in her final years.
And founded "Little Ceasers" of Course.
The fact that he got as close as he did, despite going years of not investing in the team because he was content with the Red Wings' success, made this excruciating towards the end. After battling with how to feel about this, I have come to a realization that some may not like - Damn it. Mr. I deserved better.
@@chrisg7381 OOF!
Did everything he could except find a wig that didn’t look ridiculous.
He did what he could before he died, but prior to this he basically ignored them for two decades, spending all of his capital and expertise on the Red Wings. They finally hit rock-bottom before anything was truly done about their god-awful situation. I love the guy, but he was also part of the Tigers' problem.
As a Tigers fan, this video was needed. Thank you.
I remember that pain...
I know how you feel.
Absolutely agree
Same, been to every home playoff games since 2007, hopefully casey mize is the new verlander we need.
It sucks man. I don't even want to go to a game just cause its embarrassing to be 1 of 250 fans in Comerica
Mr. I was a good man. He paid for Rosa Parks' housing anonymously for years and pumped that pizza money into the community and his teams. But facts are facts and there was nothing wrong about this video except for the red coloring to make him look like the devil. He just wanted to give us a championship and tried the best way he thought he could. And here we are.
Eric Walker Could be more out of anger and frustration...
I think utree tried to make him look less like a bad owner, but more like a desperate one, which tbf he did become. It's sad that he wasn't able to win one despite trying so hard.
@Ethan Petro yeah after 2015 the tigers should have tore it down, but if you look at this through the eyes of Mr. I, he knew that he didn't have the time left to sit through another rebuild like what had happened 15 years before. He needed to win now. It sucks, but that he just ran out of time :(
@@adishrinivasan7398 And now the team is damaged beyond repair and his son allegedly doesn't even care about sports like he did, meaning you'll probably be stuck here for a while.
@@disneyfan8719 well I'm not a tigers fan, but I do see the light at the end of the tunnel. They have 3 really good pitching prospects and just had a good draft. At least now they have a plan to get somewhere in the future.
Nobody will ever realize how much of an amazing owner Mike Illitch was. He wasnt successful with the Tigers....but with the City, the state, the community, the Red Wings....He was a hero.
He was before my time, but as a detrois sports fan I wish we could have him back
Any team or city would be so happy to have an owner as passionate and wealthy.
2019: even more former tigers have won the World Series: Max Scherzer, Anibal Sanchez, and Fernando Rodney LOL
yeah, and RODNEY kept coming in and getting guys OUT!!!
Whose gonna be the next former tigers player(s)? Ima guess Shane Greene
What’s REALLY insane is that the Tigers and the Nationals had the same record 50 games into the season.
and patrick mahomes won the super bowl
As a Dbacks fan I feel ur pain
Part II of The current Tragic Pathetic state of Detroit Sports, presented by Urinating Tree.
God help us all when he gets to the Lions.
You'd think by now since the lions have completed 10 seasons since their winless 2008 season they would have seen some playoff success like having a few playoff victories along with a conference title game appearance but they haven't gotten really far at this this decade. The only difference is Matthew Stafford has prevented the lions from being what the Brown's have been most of their time so far since coming back into the league an annual 10+ loss team.
The Lions? Is that Detroit's Lacrosse team?
@@ibraheemrao8434 the lions are the only franchise that can rival the cardinals in lack of championships
@@salamipitza I find it funny that Arizona thinks they turn their franchise around by hiring
Kliff Kingsbury a guy who was below .500 as a college head coach.
@@salamipitza nah detroit has 2x the championships if the cardnials
In what just world does Mike Ilitch not win a World Series but Jeffrey Loria does? As a Tigers fan, this saddens me.
This is NOT a just world. ISAIAH 9:6&7.
Ilitch owned the team for 14 years before the 06 season. Maybe if he started trying to improve the team before they lost 119 games, they might have won a championship.
As a sports fan in general, this angers me.
Same world where Red Sox fans gets to enjoy few more titles after 2004.
Tim Slomka remember
bonderman?! Lol and the reverse cy young record of 9-20 or something to that effect im goin on memory that 119 loss yr
The Detroit Tigers are basically a live representation of what it would be like if the Titans had to constantly relive Super Bowl 34.
A Detroiter who moved to Nashville. I have nothing.
Let me go a step further, if Houston had to relive Joe Montana making the comeback in the Divisional Round in 1994.
as a Titans fan, go to hell. XD
I think the Texas Rangers are an even better representation than the Tigers. One strike away from a World Series title TWICE in the same game and still lost the series.
Or what it would be like for Michigan to constantly relive Chris Webber's "timeout" in the 1993 NC game.
The death of Mike Ilitch was the death of the Detroit Tigers as a baseball team. Unlike few owners these days, he looked at WINNING as the primary goal of owning a sports franchise. He understood the bargain between his personal enrichment, the happiness of the fans, and the benefits to the city, both tangible and intangible. Now, like a good chunk of sports team owners, his son and Olympia Entertainment are content to look at the Tigers (and the Red Wings) as essentially Trojan Horses to hoover up real estate and subsidies, taking in millions from revenue sharing and promising an Astros-style rebuild while having one of the worst GMs in the league and being hilariously behind the curve in the use of analytics.
Maybe I'm getting older, but I'm growing hopelessly disillusioned with sports. I'll still play them myself because I love sports and competition, but professional leagues should just drop the facade, remove the city and state names from teams, and just start naming themselves after sponsors. They're not the Detroit Tigers anymore, they're the Comerica DTE Tigers. Take the city of Detroit out of your mouth; you're about as valuable to the city as a pothole.
Thank you UT for finally giving my beloved Tigers what they deserve. I would suggest a Detroit Lions, but I dont know how you could condense that trash heap down to 15 minutes.
UT: so um they had a good wr who carried, hes been gone for like 7 years...
The Lions? I don't think TREE follows Lacrosse.
@@chancetempleton3829 I see what you did there
The Mariners one was like 30 minutes
The Lions: The Never Ending Woe In Fifteen Parts
Yeah the fact that an owner as passionate as Mr I didn’t win a World Series but the notably “thrifty” David Glass lucked into a title with the Royals due to no effort of his own is sad indeed.
Grf as a Royals fan, I 100% agree.
The baseball gods show neither mercy nor sense.
Don’t forget the Marlins somehow winning TWO despite fire sale after fire sale as well as the disaster that was Jeffrey Loria
Grf price a choker in the playoffs won it with the Red Sox
Don't forget Loria and the 2003 Marlins. The ultimate underserved winner.
And now to add to the list of Tigers who won elsewhere: Max Scherzer, Anibal Sanchez, and Fernando Rodney...
As a Dbacks fan I feel your pain
Scherzer just won last year with the Nationals
Verlander won in 2017
Edwin Jackson got his ring in 2011.
patrick mahomes
Owners need to (but unfortunately rarely) learn: handing out massive contracts almost never works _unless_ there's already a foundation built through home-grown farm talent. Massive free agent contracts are there to fill holes, not to build teams with.
i mean look at the 2018 red sox most of that team is home grown except for JD, Price and few other pieces
ItsFiercekc you have to rely on both the market AND the farm
@@itsfiercekc1946 Chris Sale ?
At the same time, spending and focusing are one of the biggest qualities of an owner, plus if he doesn't do that he gets bashed to oblivion by the players chatter.
Even Craig Kimbrel, that didn't have his best season there, won it
As a Detroit Tigers fan, This is good therapy for me. Thanks Tree.
@scott carter didn't he do a video on the Lions already?
He will make one.
I mean how do you waste Barry Sanders, Megatron, Matt Stafford...
@Justinn Zamora Is it? I feel like the Lions are invisible to the rest of the country, especially now that they aren't the only team that went 0-16.
This is so sad, Happy Rusev Day.
Yea he already made a video about the lions
Detroit had so much talent. One of the greatest hitters ever an iconic power hitter, a first ballet hall of fame pitcher, an elite closer. And nothing to show for it
With a bad farm team and sure chaos in ownership, this team has the risk of outdoing the 119 losses of 2004 within the next five years. If they drafted the New Ted Williams they would try to make a pitcher out of him.
What do bad teams look like? At least the 2003 team was basically a Double-A team with some quality prospects. The Tigers are going to end up with a lot of players that other teams gave up on or trying to resuscitate careers beyond resuscitation, the fellows who say 'play me or trade me' after they get benched and get traded to Detroit and show why they are benched.
I've seen it before. The Tigers might as well take their lumps while getting some high draft picks -- but as bad as the upper management is, they will likely draft badly. Huge contracts to players no longer championship quality means that they will be able to invest the money in scouting great talent and will end up someone who at best looks good losing.
Anibal Sanchez
I wouldnt say NOTHING to show for it.....they went to the World Series TWICE.
Didnt win but they were there.
Chris Evans that’s the way I always felt! I thought the only way they could win once they made the playoffs were to throw complete games by their starters!
Legit almost cried over this, so much damn pain from this team. Still love them though.
I feel it, you ain't lying its tough .....
Brenden Benoit We know the future is starting to take place bou just like the RedWings everyone is impatient. The front office is full of cocaine addicts but the ownership and GM makes a great organization
I there in 1968. The Tigers winning the series healed the city. I was there in 1984. In my lifetime the Tigers are 2-2 in world series finals. The question is the Lions have not one a championship since 1957. The year I was born.
Damn thats a tough curse
Is William Clay Ford still alive and does he still own the Lions?
Detroit is a curse city because of baseball and football
@@angelomendez6316 Not Baseball. The 1968 Tiger world series championship over the St.Lous Cardinals healed the city from the Detroit city riots. Denny McClain was 31-6 that year. Amazing team. Micky Lolich, Al Kaline, Dick McAuliffe, Norm Cash, Bill Freehan, Willie Horton, Mickey Stanley, Jim Northrop, Don Wert, Earl Wilson. Mayo Smith was the manager. I'll never forget that summer. Can't forget Gates Brown, Ray Oiler.
@@yohannbiimu He died at least five years ago. Maybe longer!
I can't blame Mr. I tbh. A lot of fanbases would love to have an owner who actually cared and spent money to make the team better. I feel like he was painted too negatively here.
Miguel Flores as a tigers fan he did so much for the team and city he helped rebuild the city of Detroit with the sports teams
All Ilitch did was steal money from the taxpayers and fail to deliver. If he cared so much why was the team cheap and pathetic in the 90s and early 2000s? Why did he let Tiger Stadium go to hell?
You didn't watch before 2006, did you. Illitch couldn't have given one shit, let alone two about the team all that time.
@@chriskies5016 yeah, pretty much. I started watching baseball in 2003, so I only really got to watch all the great Tigers team and how much Illitch spent. Didn't see the earlier teams, but I was aware that they sucked for a long time.
@@eyecatcher647 That makes sense. I sat in the stands through the 90s-early 2000s and watched, fully aware of how much money Illitch was pumping into his other team, while the Tigers trotted out the Damion Easleys and Brad Ausmuses of the world. Its hard for me to shed any tears about them not winning a title because of him
That Galaragga throw still pisses me off to this day. I feel so bad whenever I see it...
He did em dirty
what's worse is that Joyce even admitted to having blown it later! It's like he admitted it, cameras all caught it, by the replay it was clear he did everything to pitch a perfect game...
Yes that was horrible... jim joyce fucked it up
@@jackson5116 But that was 4 years pre replay
Blame Joyce all you want, but the MLB is really to blame. Umps human error made that bound to happen, the MLB's stubborn and frankly hypocritical approach is by far the more frustrating thing. Wanna know why it's hypocritical? Are you sure?
Dallas Braden admitted later in his career to illegally putting foreign substances on the ball his entire career. Even during his Perfect Game on May 9, 2010, you can see him using Pine Tar on video.
He still has his perfect game.
Mr. I and Dombrowski made some tremendous moves... that 2013 team was absolutely amazing to watch. The 06 team was pure bliss, I guess it just wasn’t meant to be...
0:32 2003
1:15 43-119
2:27 Jim Leyland
Justin Verlander, Curtis Granderson
3:22 “The Cardinals had other plans”
2007- Failed to make playoffs
4:25 Miguel Cabrera
2009 Collapse
5:42 Max Scherzer
2011- Breaking Through, But Rangers!
2012- Dominance. Swept Away
2013- Incredible Squad. Then Red Sox
2014- New Age Asmus. Swept By Orioles
2015 Extensions, Extensions. The Window Closes.
2016- Bye Dombrowski. Goodbye Playoffs
2017- It Is The End
2019- Adrift
2017-present tigers watch their former mates win a world series
2017: Houston Astros win with Justin Verlander
2018: Boston Red Sox win with Ian Kinsler J.D. Martinez Rick Porcello David price and Dave Dombrowski
2019: Washington nationals win with Max Scherzer Anibal Sanchez and Fernando Rodney
2020: Atlanta Braves win with Shane Greene
They kinda lucked out in 2011 by losing to the Rangers. It would have been "Breaking through... but once again, the Cardinals had other plans."
As a tigers fan this hits home. All I ever wanted was to see my team win it all we came so close yet so far away
My sentiments exactly! 😥
Stupid cardinals, stupid giants
Same here ;-;
If the Tigers didn't have a week off before facing the Giants in the 2012 WS no doubt they would've won
@@Karmy. a wild card team in baseball is the team would not to be beaten, unlike the NFL.
If the Tigers has a real manager instead of Leyland, they would have.
I don't even watch baseball but I like these videos
Angry Sammich ikr
Start watching my dude
Where you from bro ? I wanna talk shit about your team so you get heated and start a competitive fight with me about who's team is better .. I'm from St Louis , hbu ?
Nick Tobin Vancouver 😎. Haha sucker my team hasn’t won anything the 50 years they have been in the league while u guys just won a championship a few weeks ago. HA, PATHETIC
@@bigsmoke8435 ayeee what's up smoke ? How you doin ? How's life ?
God bless Miguel Cabrera. The Tigers may be dead, but he has lived on to remind Tigers fans of the greatness once known.
If only he won the ring he deserved
@@FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza wdym he did get a ring, in Miami
That 12 inning game 163 tiebreak is an unforgettable gem for Twins fans. It was a beautiful sendoff as it was the last regular season game played at the Metrodome before moving to Target Field.
Holy crap Miguel Cabrera still has another 4 years on his contract.
Dude, don't remind me!
Life in the 313 the pitching simply bad can’t win if the front office sells off good players for prospects
I remember hearing about his contract in the beginning and doing the math and thinking.....man no way he'll be that productive THAT old being such a big guy!!!
He needs to lose some weight!!
This was going to be his big comeback year. He had almost 2/3 of last season off, he was going to come back slim, rested, healthy, and ready to play. Instead, he was fat, out of shape, and had (it seemed) little interest in playing. Everyone, except me, was shocked.
Please do not remind me of this horrible stat
Man I forgot how many great players they had over the years
that 2012 team should have swept the Giants!! They were just unbelievably stacked compared to 2006!
Blame senile Leyland for that one.
Jack Son our pitching always seemed to let us down. Dave never getting a decent bullpen is what screwed us
@@jackson5116 and even more stacked in 2013. Can’t believe they blew it against the Sox in the ALCS
As Ilitch died, Miguel Cabrera’s career died with him.
GREAT vid!
You need to make a video EXACTLY like this one about Leon Hess, the owner of the New York Jets, who famously hired Bill Parcells and Bill Belichick so he could “win a super bowl before I die”. As everyone knows his previous hires had included Lou Holtz and Richie Kotite, the coach directly before Parcells who went 1-15 the year before Parcells went 9-7. The next year they got Curtis Martin to come over as well and made the AFC title game. But it ended in tragedy as the jets never made the super bowl, Hess died, and the team exploded as Belichick, after serving as head coach for 6 days in 1997 but never coaching a game, was the head coach for one more fleeting day in 2000 following Hess’ death… until he resigned on a napkin and resigned the jets to the trash bin that it no doubt was thrown in
I remember when the Tigers beat us in back to back years in the playoffs. Verlander was unhittable and Scherzer was the best #2 in the game. It is a crime they didn’t win a World Series
They won two, just separately and for other teams......
The Tigers tried to be the Los Angeles Dodgers of the American League with all this spending for big name talent in the late 2000s-mid 2010s. And like the Dodgers, no World Series title for the Tigers.
Stephen Short 2012 was their best shot.... only to have a Panda kill JV in game 1.
There was already a dodgers in the AL, and they were doing it long before LA. The damned empire in New York has been spending money for decades like it was nothing
@@joekaput747 And yet, the Yankees has had much more success in spending money for talent.
I can't think of any big names the Dodgers payed for besides Kershaw. Turner used to be garbage, Taylor used to be garbage, Bellinger is a star only in only his 3rd year, Muncy was an A's prospect with 2 bad seasons, Seager was from a draft, and Buehler from a draft. I don't think we spent much money on "big name talent".
@@notsauer man, I remember the 08-09 Dodger teams... they were nothing more than the Phillies Bitch in the NLCS
Being from the "D" this video hurts like hell. I was there for 1984 and Detroit is still waiting for a repeat.
As an O’s fan, seeing Camden Yards being packed as it was for that 2014 ALDS brought back old memories of excitement. Damn, having a bad baseball team sucks. Best of luck to the tigers and their rebuild.
Well… how about now?
Tree I’m not from Detroit or even follow baseball too much. This was by far one of your best videos you’ve created on this channel and I genuinely felt for the Tigers. Great work on the video.
You guys do know the Lions are next, right?
... & you also know that video would be _at least_ an hour & a half, right?
I hope so. I've been waiting forever for Tree to go in on the most pathetic franchise in professional sports.
Dont do that...dont give me hope.
A 90 hour UTree video? That sounds heavenly:3
Ultimate23Dragon works for me
90 minutes might cover half of the dumb things Matt Millen did if he really condenses it.
There is still hope for us now. We have a great pitching staff and some really good young players this year. I have hope for us in the next few years.
And it’s gone
Thank you for not dwelling too much on us letting Scherzer slip through our fingers. It’s so painful watching how good he is.
You hit the nails on the head, Tree.
As a Tigers fan I thank you for this video.
As a Cincinnati fan and perennial cellar dweller, I feel your pain. Godspeed Detroit.
I'm in both boats... I'm a Tigers & Reds fan....
Robbie Ray is now the latest pitcher in the 2014 Tigers rotation to win a Cy Young.
As a tigers fan thank you, thank you for telling our story. Gosh we were so close, its one of the few good times as a Detroit sports fan I had.
As a Cleveland Indians fan, I wanna laugh till I cant laugh no more, but I can't. Mr. I did whatever he could to win the title and it was for nothing. I kinda feel bad
Same here. As much as it was a royal pain in the butt to watch the Tigers stomp on the Indians year after year, and as much as I liked seeing the tide turn within the division in favor of the Indians, I must also admit that this is a sad way to see a franchise go downhill in such a tragic fashion. Never did I want to see the Tigers end up in the pit of misery like they have. I genuinely feel bad for any Tigers fan that witnessed their team coming so close to winning a World Series twice, only to watch them in their present form a few years later
Tyler Oriti yeah, i see what you’re going at. i wasn’t around for the 1984 team. i’ve only been around to see this tragedy. i am more depressed that we are literally garbage now. i wish we could’ve won.
im a twins fan and my only reaction is just sadness... like miguel cabrera is stuck in detroit till 2023
this feels like the montreal expo's, so close to glory and yet they will never be how close they ever were.
I concur
They are basically the mets of the AL... start of great but then just collapse
Not as big of a trainwreck though.
Nah at least the Tigers owner actually spent money to be good
Giovany Brice what would probably happen if the pirates owner would spend.
Nah they made the Playoffs fairly consistently
Nah the tigers could win year after year the mets pop out once a decade then go back to being ass. Im a mets fan and we are the MLBs shit show forever except maybe Baltimore
Being a former Tigers fan this was too generous to them. They did many stupid things from overpaying big names to the way they handled the Cabrera domestic assault incident to screwing up their farm system. What was great about the 06 team was it was a team built with young underdog guys like Inge, Monroe, Zumaya, and Bonderman to vets like Purge and Kenny Rogers. Once they got good, they turned into the Yankees and spent like crazy and disregarded team chemistry. The moment I knew they would never win was when they got rid of Granderson. He wasn't a hall of famer but he was a great franchise player.
The Tigers are not even my team but I still watch this video every now and then. Coupled with the Nationals Championship video this is just some genius film making. Probably one of my fav videos on UA-cam right now.
Galoragas (near)perfect game is the perfect encapsulation of the tigers from 2006 to 2013. So close but yet so far away.
Ps. Rip into the lions next.
Tyler Clark a lions video has been too long overdue
God save Detroit sports
Now for the inevitable July 1st Mets/Bobby Bonilla shitpost, don't disappoint me Tree.
Turns out he didn't.
Make Tigers Great Again
He did disappoint
That 2013 Tigers team was truly stacked and primed for a World Series, but the Red Sox that year were just truly magical. That was probably their best shot
As a fan of the Texas Rangers, a team that also had two chances to win the World Series but blew both of them, I feel for you Tigers fans. Here's hoping that both Arlington and Detroit will eventually go back to the glory years of baseball in the near decade.
Edit: 7:09 And we both lost a World Series to the goddamn Giants. You just can't make this shit up!
Wait... Lost to the Cardinals too. Woof.
Great, now my PTSD has kicked in from that dreaded game 6 of the 2011 World Series. Excuse me while I go outside and wither under the Texas sun.
Keith Anderson
The best comment so far. That nailed it.
Here we are four years later and you guys finally got your ring.
The Tigers on the other hand...ouch. At least they have the Red Wings and Lions on track.
I feel your pain Detroit. I'm an Oriole fan whose been living through misery & hell for 20 years with only that bright spot from 2011-16. Sad times guys!
Quit complaining. Ypu swept the Tigers in 2014.
Mona Biehl And the Orioles lost to KC.
@@brandonblanco8379 ...also in sweep fashion.
I actually felt sad for the Tigers when Verlander was traded, because I knew for sure, it was over for them.
2021: Another former Tiger in Drew Smyly won a World Series with The Braves
Scherzer wasn’t the same pitcher when we traded for him. He was just above average. He learned how to pitch in Detroit
You know it's bad here in Detroit when the Detroit Lions are your best chance of winning a championship for the city.
Divine_Wrath hell yeah brother I’m
Just waiting for the wings to finish rebuilding so I can have some hope again
lol no.. Wings have the best shot with Yzerman back
The fact the Lions are the best team in Detroit right now makes me realize how destitute Detroit sports actually is right now.
Red Wings are closer than the Lions
@@user-tg4ig9hc3t the lions havent won a playoff game in 20+ years. They are not the closest. They will never win under Ford ownership.
As a casual fan/someone who doesnt know anything about this, you really do a great job of explaining things in a simple and very entertaining way. Keep it up Tree!
Your recent bits on baseball are some of the best you have offered us. Detroit, Seattle, Montreal/Washington. Great stuff
It's not just the Tigers. The Lions, the Pistons, the Redwings...
...Detroit is a sports black hole of despair and disappointment.
Wings in good shape with Yzerman. Pistons have some hope.
As a Red Wings and Tigers fan, I’ve been waiting for this since “The fall of an empire”. Well done UT
Detroit sports have declined massively. While the decline continued, the Lions continued to stagnate.
The Lions stagnating is a high point in their history
The Great Imposter bruh have you even see what we have done to the city
The Great Imposter It’s remarkable how those two things can coincide sometimes.
@@jackstubbington387 Dog, the wings won the Stanley cup the same year we declared bankruptcy. And the city is actually doing amazing recently. The economy in Detroit is the best its been in 50 years. The fall of Detroit sports has been offset by the resurgence of the city. Being a resident of Detroit, I'd rather have it that way than the other way around. Do some research before you talk shit.
who's interested in Detroit Sports?
Three years later, the night before the 2023 Opening Day, the Tigers are still in their mire. I've been a fan since 1964. It's hard.
Who came back to this vid after the Nationals won the World Series?
And to think they literally had the same record 50 games in...
Respect for using the 'Chernobyl' soundtrack behind this video. It's really fitting for the Tigers and the city of Detroit as a whole
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Agree on the fitting for the Tigers, but Detroit as a city is doing fine.
That is last war from game of thrones
bricksandwindows no it isn’t it’s Vichnaya Pamyat from Episode 5 of Chernobyl
Pachary Zorter no wonder you're an asshole, your name reminds me of a name of Zachary, sorry Zachary with a shitty P. Three words, FUCK YOU NIGGA
@@orlandofields1973 C R I N G E
Ah, yes, Hildur Guonadottirs' music from "Chernobyl" . The music fit this video perfectly, now I have to watch that series again. Thank you, tree.
I haven’t watched any HBO shows since GoT ended in May... gotta watch Chernobyl
As a Detroit sports fan, I'm shocked that you've done a video on two Detroit franchises and NEITHER of them were on the Detroit Lions
The who?
It’s sad man, it’s been so depressing to watch this team work and all of the stars that have left here
To be honest, I believe part of the issue is Dave Dombrowski. Take a look at what he’s done to the Red Sox farm system. Although I suppose it was worth it considering they won a World Series
and our bullpen
We have NEVER had a truly good bullpen
Key2Survive keep telling yourself that
@@Karmy. He never built up the bullpen. Too much stock in the starters.
Y4123 same story different team, same thing he did to us over here in the mitten . Besides you guys actually won . With about 5 former tigers.
Despite what you hear from some Boston fans about now about the bullpen, which is all fair...the fact is that Dave Dombrowski is honestly a borderline Hall of Fame GM. He's had success everywhere he goes. Yes he's not perfect but no one is...for example, Cashman has never been great with starting pitchers.
Oh God the Gallaraga game at the end is just the perfect twist of the knife. Brutal.
one of the worst calls in the history of the sport tbh
I've been a lifelong baseball fan from a suburb of Detroit and this video physically hurt. My family has been season ticket holders nearly my whole life, I've been lucky enough to attend many games throughout the seasons, including one of the playoff games in 2006 and game 4 when they lost to the giants. The 2006 team is what made me fall in love with the team and the sport, Ordonez hitting the walkoff homerun to beat the A's is still the most excited I've ever been from a sporting event. I could probably still name every starter from that team off the top of my head, and they all seemed like great people too. It makes me so sad to see what was once a great team full of young guys with great skill get turned into a huge joke. I haven't even watched a game since at least May, every time I see Cabrera up to bat it just makes me angry, and I can't stand it anymore. He is the only person on the roster I can name off the top of my head right now, and even if I knew more it wouldn't matter because they'd get injured the next day.
I guess my point is, this fuckin sucks. Thanks for reading my therapy session
This video was really genuinely informative and depressing for someone that didn't know much about the tigers. Seems like Mr. I was a good man, just tried to turn the team around too late
Can you kill the Mets again?? This embarrassment of a team needs light on just how truly awful they are.
The annual Bobby Bonilla video is due in a few days
Bobby Bonilla shitpost on July 1
The Phillies were looking absolutely shitty and hopeless, like they were going to fail their way out of a potential playoff berth...and now they're brutalizing the poor defenseless Mets. Ouch.
Is that the Chernobyl theme in the background? You spoil us Urinating Tree my good man
@@Clarence_the_potato No, it's Chernobyl so unless that composer stole a song, you're mistaken.
Chess RedEagle he’s delusional, take him to the infirmary.
Chris Henry I blame the radiation
Clarence And they’re talking about the song used towards the end.
Clarence were talking about the song that played when Illitch died the Song is called Vichnaya pamyat
As a Giants fan, of course I enjoyed the 2012 World Series, but after this vid I actually feel bad for sweeping the Tigers. Mr I did so much and yet it just wasn't enough. It's almost like Doug Wilson has done with the Sharks except Illitch was a classy guy while Doug is just a regular person. God bless his soul
At least the Tigers won a long time ago, the Rangers can't even say that
That comment aged poorly. The rangers won the World Series.
I feel bad for the Detroit Teams, They been cursed in all Motor City Sports!
BULLSHEAD13 ya it sucks
This video was a long time coming. We've been such a meme for so long. Never able to finish the World Series off...and now never ever to make it to the post season.
Tree, your background music/soundtrack selection is, as always, most excellent. The Tigers are the perfect recipient for the imagery of a catastrophic failure in that of Chernobyl.
Given that Max Scherzer and a couple more Tigers have won a World Series with the Nats, this video is somehow even more painful than it already was.
The whole 2014 Tigers starting rotation has now won a ring
Let's give David Eckstein credit though. He was a journeyman, but he batted like .500 in Anaheim's 2002 WS run. He was a clutch playoff player. 🙂
When the Twins inevitably disappoint me by getting swept in the playoffs this year I’d love a Twins video
And when the Dodgers lose their third straight World Series this year, I'd like a Dodgers video. I might as well just be a Boston fan at this point, they have all the luck.
nice prediction
B Kaus go watch Walt he has one
As if my life isn't shitty enough, I'm also a Detroit sports fan...
I just wish that Kalamazoo and Grand Rapids TV stations would recognize that they are closer to Chicago than to Detroit.
Detroit is a great sports town though our last title was 2008 thats not that bad
Conglaturations Tigers! Now you get to see former pitchers Max Scherzer, Anibal Sanchez, and even Fernando Rodney win a World Series with the Washington Nationals. Jesus this must be excruciating to watch for Tigers fans.
And then Drew Smyly won one with the Braves and Verlander won ANOTHER with the Astros
watching this 3 years later and this is stil so hard to watch, remembering the glory days of this team and seeing them now is saddening
"A tragedy worthy of Shakespeare" Great line, UT, and most baseball fans would agree( other than Detroit's bitter rivals), just sad.
I am so glad you finally made one on my home team. Gotta say, I was waiting for a “decent” video.
Today, the Tigers are in last place in the AL Central. This video is so painful, especially considering that they have never won a World Series in my lifetime but lost two in spectacular fashion.
8:05 - that music when you lose a heartbreaking battle to the greeks.
When they went to the world series both times. One problem was their both times. The tigers swept in the ALCS when their nl opponent played 7 games. Having that week off really slowed the team down
keivn craft Also Notice The Opponents that they beat to get to the World Series those two years...
@@UHOH_415 yeah In flip flop order
Anyone Catch the Music From HBOs “Chernobyl” near the end
Mr I, I may have been a fan of a rival, but you threw everything into the ring, you tried to salvage, you brought the tigers back to life, I wish you had got a world series win, he deserved it.
I totally forgot the 2006 Cardinals had only 83 wins.
Plus they eclipsed the 1973 Mets in making the World Series
Just about to go to bed
*See UT post a vid*
Brain: Must Watch
Finally, it looks like the Modern Tragedy is behind us.
After only 47 wins in 2019, the Tigers took full advantage of the COVID-19 pandemic and the shortened 2020 season to gear up for a return to glory.
At first, though, things looked bleak, as if the horrors of 2018 and 2019 would continue into 2021, with a 21 game stretch where they lost EIGHTEEN of those games.
However, things turned around, and quickly. The next 18 games saw the Tigers go 11-7, and there was a glimmer of hope of salvaging 2021.
The Tigers did not disappoint their fans.
On May 8, the Tigers were 9-24 with 129 games left.
They would go 68-61 the rest of the way.
In 2019, they were 47-115.
In 2021, the Tigers surprised EVERYBODY, by turning a staggering THIRTY game improvement, with a 77-85 record.
The future looks VERY bright for the Tigers, with Spencer Torkelson and Riley Greene being looked at as a new version of the combo of Miguel Cabrera and Victor Martinez which anchored the Tigers' successes in the first half of the 2010s.
In fact, Tigers fans are being rather cautious about expectations, seeing a return to true contention beginning in 2023, while saying that fighting for a playoff spot in 2022 would be a successful season.
Erring on the side of caution is never a bad thing: Tigers fans are setting themselves up for a win-win situation by doing so.
Is the Modern Tragedy over? Only time will tell, but looking at the situation on paper, it certainly looks like it is.
Ironically, though, some Tigers fans say that there is a far larger Modern Tragedy, one that started 45 years ago and will not end until the invention of time travel.
That's a story for another time, though.
Unfortunately, it looks like last season was them playing over their heads... still a lot of time but they cannot hit nor have consistent starting pitchers. Add injuries to the mix and the rebuild has hit a pretty big speed bump.
I’m from detroit and I think one of these videos are needed for all Detroit sports teams
I've got to say as someone who grew up watching these Detroit teams from the side (Astros fan), I have fond memories of these rosters. A collection of baseball talent that was so incredibly entertaining to watch. Miggy, Triple crown, that all i need to say. Prince in his prime could stun the world with his ridiculous HRs, and ngl he has a fuckin awesome name. Verlander and Scherzer as the 2 aces on the same roster was crazy.
As an Indians fan, it was getting hard to ignore what our division rivals to the north were getting themselves into. This video was needed. Not that we have much room to talk. The baseball gods show no mercy. Amen.
Pump Up The Jam we’re on the upswing
The World Series window might be closing in Cleveland
MrUHOH415 I thought it was already closed starting this year, honestly. But our young pitching and really young hitting talent gives me hope.
As a Tigers fan, thank you. This video was long overdue.
Do you know what Detrot football fans would like to call the Lions?
The Las Vegas Lions!
You know, after seeing other MLB owners cry poor while being content with just existing or deliberately sandbagging, I have a bigger appreciation for the Tigers from that era.
It’s more noble to go for it and choke on greatness than to nibble on mediocrity like the Marlins or Reds have done for years.
The Tigers still have the 1968 Championship, in one of the greatest WS victories in the history of MLB!!
- And '84 when they owned baseball that year & cruised past the Royals in the ALCS and the Padres in the World Series. #BlessYouBoys
@@ckendall67 1968 was a far better season