2025 UPDATE: 9. With No. 1309 now operable, a rebuild for No. 734 is planned, pending funding. 6. No. 2716 has since moved to the former CSX facility in Ravenna, Ky., and is undergoing extensive work, including a firebox rebuild, various appliance replacements and conversion to oil firing. While you're here, SUBSCRIBE for the most riveting stories in railroading!
15:02 - By the way, I hear a lot of complaints regarding 1309’s heritage being changed from C&O to WMSR, but the same thing happened to 2716 decades before, but I didn't see anyone complaining.
Most of the hate on 1309 comes from C&O fans, and 2716 did get a little bit of complaining from the C&O fans when she was changed to a Southern locomotive. The likely reason is because the C&O was a large railroad with a lot of big fans. When 734 was changed from a LS&I engine to a Western Maryland engine, for example, no one really cared because the LS&I was not a large or significant railroad, so there's not a lot of fans of the line.
@@PennsyPro you have a point but I think 1309 and 2716 looks good in thoses looks 2716 as a southern engine with smokenox headlight and 1309 in western Maryland colors
Robert Kersey if time travel is ever to become possible, I don’t care if it screws up time and space continuum, I’m going to bring back 5269 from the dead and save her to keep her from scrap, buy her after her owner gets rid of her, and move her to the Iowa interstate, lol I’m kiding April fools.
2716 looks good regardless. The only thing I dislike about her Southern masqurade is her whistle. They apparently installed a filter so the smoke wouldn't get onto the sand dome, but the filter made the whistle sound bad.
DISCLAIMER: This video was my first documentary video, worked on from late May to late July 2018. As such, it does not meet the current Pennsy Productions quality standard. This is not the quality you should come to expect from Pennsy Productions, and my future videos will be much higher quality than what you see here.
@@awildjared1396, that's a good observation, but what the FWRHS did this time around was split the inpsection in half, doing one part during the 2015-16 off-season, and the other part during the 2017-18 off-season. The engine is still in great condition, and doing it this way ensures she won't miss a season. She'll be good until the winter of 2031.
I remember having a magazine as an 8 year old called "Fantastic 4-8-4s". 5632's unfortunate demise was in that magazine. I remember crying hysterically after reading those 2 pages. I refused to read that thing for a straight month after reading that section. I don't know where this was going, but seeing this video brought it back into my head. Still tragic regardless of frankly stupid childhood trauma. I was dumb.
If it were up to me, obviously it's not lol, but I would've put 759 as number because it has such a rich history. That's my opinion though. Nice video!
In 1988 Circus World in Baraboo, WI Would Fire Up The Demolition Area at Blue Island, IL 2 Get Rid of That Scrapyard Spot, & Launch The GTW 5629 Trust Campaign Here At Circus World in Baraboo, WI
We’re unlikely to see 587 run for a very long time as it’s still owned by ITM. ITM has arguably managed the restoration of 587 worse than WMSR 1309 and PRR 1361. Our only hope to see an NKP Mikado run again as of current is Ft. Wayne. They’re looking at NKP 624.
@@blackbirdgaming8147 yea but there is hope because after the 2716 is done talks of 587 getting restored next and steaming up again. 587 has always been my personal favorite so it would be cool to see two NKP steam engines and to see it maybe double head with 611 again!
Forgive me if I sound ignorant, but who exactly is this Richard Jensen? I’ve heard his name tossed around in a few videos like this, but I’ve never heard of him, and I can’t seem to find any information about him
@@Jaidyn228 He was also the one who worked on getting the CB&Q excursion locomotives preserved, though one of them was sadly cut up for scrap after it was evicted from a roundhouse and derailed moving into a scrapyard for storage.
2716 was in terrible shape from complete neglect from the KRM. The KRM has many very rare and historical pieces in their yard but all sit rusting away, many nearly beyond preservation. They completely mismanage their equipment but thankfully KSHC has saved 2716 from the fate of rusting into the dirt like the rest of the KRM collection. Now I’m Revenna KY, just 20min from my home, I’ll get to see the giant steam again within a couple years.
Just to clarify the part about 5629, it wasn’t Metra who was at fault for her scrapping. Metra tried to save the locomotive by buying it off of Jenson, but Jenson, like an utter piece of sh*t, denied the offer because he wanted to sue Metra for damages. Also, when several museums tried to get their hands on 5629, a**hole Jenson again denied them. After several attempts to save her, Metra was given the court order to scrap 5629. Metra was forced to scrap her all because Jenson was being an arrogant piece of sh*t who just cared about the money from a lawsuit he wanted to win and when he did, he thankfully was told to shove it up his ass. So for those of you blaming Metra for what happened to 5629, Jenson just proved how much of a piece of sh*t he really was because he wanted her scrapped just to sue Metra. If you don’t believe me, go check out the video by History In The Dark about 5629. He’ll explain it all.
Thanks for the suggestion, but we decided last year not to make any more top 10 countdowns so we can focus on other projects that are more important. We have plenty more exciting things under our belt this year. Thanks for your support, though!
GTW 5629 was meant to be preserved for further excursion but sadly scrapped following a legal battle between Metra and Richard Jenson. They tried to save it but couldn't. Some are currently either being restored or have been scrapped completely.
The Southern RR wanted to buy or lease 5629 so they could turn her into a 'Southern PS-4' like the one in Smithsonian. Jensen wouldn't lease the locomotive for any affordable price, so it never happened. I except it'd be around today if that'd happened
This is my personal opinion, so my fellow railfans don't get upset. 2716 from the videos I've watched of "him" yes I said him because 2716 has a masculine chuff and steam exhaust bark. While let's say 765 has a more quieter femmine park and chuff. I'm a frim believer that locomotives can have masculine attributes and then some can have feminine attributes. This hole every Locomotive is a "she" is just silly to me. But I am happy 2716 is getting the restoration "he" deserve either though 2707 the locomotives sister should have one to. It's really hard seeing just sitting there at the IRM rotting.
2025 UPDATE:
9. With No. 1309 now operable, a rebuild for No. 734 is planned, pending funding.
6. No. 2716 has since moved to the former CSX facility in Ravenna, Ky., and is undergoing extensive work, including a firebox rebuild, various appliance replacements and conversion to oil firing.
While you're here, SUBSCRIBE for the most riveting stories in railroading!
5629 has the greatest sounding whistle I’ve ever heard
screw Metra for being scrapped
10:38 and 765 was reunited with 759 back in 2015 if only temporarily.
@Lucien Thompson-Parmenter because The Pandemic's Now Trash!
15:02 - By the way, I hear a lot of complaints regarding 1309’s heritage being changed from C&O to WMSR, but the same thing happened to 2716 decades before, but I didn't see anyone complaining.
Most of the hate on 1309 comes from C&O fans, and 2716 did get a little bit of complaining from the C&O fans when she was changed to a Southern locomotive. The likely reason is because the C&O was a large railroad with a lot of big fans. When 734 was changed from a LS&I engine to a Western Maryland engine, for example, no one really cared because the LS&I was not a large or significant railroad, so there's not a lot of fans of the line.
@@PennsyPro you have a point but I think 1309 and 2716 looks good in thoses looks 2716 as a southern engine with smokenox headlight and 1309 in western Maryland colors
Robert Kersey if time travel is ever to become possible, I don’t care if it screws up time and space continuum, I’m going to bring back 5269 from the dead and save her to keep her from scrap, buy her after her owner gets rid of her, and move her to the Iowa interstate, lol I’m kiding April fools.
2716 looks good regardless. The only thing I dislike about her Southern masqurade is her whistle. They apparently installed a filter so the smoke wouldn't get onto the sand dome, but the filter made the whistle sound bad.
That whistle at 19:05 it’s Beautiful
One thing about the LS&I 2-8-0s, 33 actually ran on the Hocking Valley Railroad throughout the 80s if you didn't know.
I know. I made this video over a year ago, and when I made it I didn't know.
DISCLAIMER: This video was my first documentary video, worked on from late May to late July 2018. As such, it does not meet the current Pennsy Productions quality standard. This is not the quality you should come to expect from Pennsy Productions, and my future videos will be much higher quality than what you see here.
pensy productions. I feel bad for 5629
pensy productions
If 765 underwent restoration in 2005, that means she will be restored this year too since they need to be rebuilt every 15 years by federal law.
@@awildjared1396, that's a good observation, but what the FWRHS did this time around was split the inpsection in half, doing one part during the 2015-16 off-season, and the other part during the 2017-18 off-season. The engine is still in great condition, and doing it this way ensures she won't miss a season. She'll be good until the winter of 2031.
Pennsy Productions what will happen to her in 2031
I like the southern paint scheme instead of the C&O appearance
Everyone does
My grandpa sawed 2716 in the museum where she was bought.
I remember having a magazine as an 8 year old called "Fantastic 4-8-4s". 5632's unfortunate demise was in that magazine. I remember crying hysterically after reading those 2 pages. I refused to read that thing for a straight month after reading that section.
I don't know where this was going, but seeing this video brought it back into my head. Still tragic regardless of frankly stupid childhood trauma.
I was dumb.
Southern Pacifici 4449 in 1988! Upgrades it!
Incorrect, I wish Pikachu, Riolu and Eevee scraps Southern Pacific 4449.
This is fantastic. I am so in love with old trains. I just came across this and am so glad I did.
If it were up to me, obviously it's not lol, but I would've put 759 as number because it has such a rich history. That's my opinion though. Nice video!
In 1988 Circus World in Baraboo, WI Would Fire Up The Demolition Area at Blue Island, IL 2 Get Rid of That Scrapyard Spot, & Launch The GTW 5629 Trust Campaign Here At Circus World in Baraboo, WI
Unluckily, GTW 5629 Trust Campaign got thawed and cancelled in March 1988.
@@ericcalhoun9160 & Discontinued in 1990!
I like how you putted vintage videos on your presentation
Not only are they restoring 2716 they are restoring NKP 587 too !
I hope 587 will steam again one day I hope sometime this year or early next year
Evan's Megazord reviews that’s an engine he forgot to put on this list
We’re unlikely to see 587 run for a very long time as it’s still owned by ITM. ITM has arguably managed the restoration of 587 worse than WMSR 1309 and PRR 1361.
Our only hope to see an NKP Mikado run again as of current is Ft. Wayne. They’re looking at NKP 624.
@@blackbirdgaming8147 yea but there is hope because after the 2716 is done talks of 587 getting restored next and steaming up again. 587 has always been my personal favorite so it would be cool to see two NKP steam engines and to see it maybe double head with 611 again!
@@ironhorsemedia2881 Such talk means nothing since 587 is still owned by ITM.
Very good production! One little note, “Kanawha” is actually pronounced like “canal”, as this info came from a West Virginian 😁
Richard Jenson passed away in March 16, 1991? This is worse than Grand Trunk Western 5629 being scrapped!
Yeah sure is sad
Forgive me if I sound ignorant, but who exactly is this Richard Jensen? I’ve heard his name tossed around in a few videos like this, but I’ve never heard of him, and I can’t seem to find any information about him
NinjagoGuy416, he’s the driver of 5629
@@Jaidyn228 He was also the one who worked on getting the CB&Q excursion locomotives preserved, though one of them was sadly cut up for scrap after it was evicted from a roundhouse and derailed moving into a scrapyard for storage.
2716 was in terrible shape from complete neglect from the KRM. The KRM has many very rare and historical pieces in their yard but all sit rusting away, many nearly beyond preservation. They completely mismanage their equipment but thankfully KSHC has saved 2716 from the fate of rusting into the dirt like the rest of the KRM collection.
Now I’m Revenna KY, just 20min from my home, I’ll get to see the giant steam again within a couple years.
horrible how some people treat steam engines, some dont have a choice. some do, and they still scrap some. great video
Just to clarify the part about 5629, it wasn’t Metra who was at fault for her scrapping. Metra tried to save the locomotive by buying it off of Jenson, but Jenson, like an utter piece of sh*t, denied the offer because he wanted to sue Metra for damages. Also, when several museums tried to get their hands on 5629, a**hole Jenson again denied them. After several attempts to save her, Metra was given the court order to scrap 5629. Metra was forced to scrap her all because Jenson was being an arrogant piece of sh*t who just cared about the money from a lawsuit he wanted to win and when he did, he thankfully was told to shove it up his ass. So for those of you blaming Metra for what happened to 5629, Jenson just proved how much of a piece of sh*t he really was because he wanted her scrapped just to sue Metra. If you don’t believe me, go check out the video by History In The Dark about 5629. He’ll explain it all.
Fantastic video. Thank you for making it and sharing.
Next video should be top 10 operational steam excursion stars
Thanks for the suggestion, but we decided last year not to make any more top 10 countdowns so we can focus on other projects that are more important. We have plenty more exciting things under our belt this year. Thanks for your support, though!
33 was on the Hocking Valley Scenic Railway and then it was traded to Jerry in about 2001
I found that out not long after I made this. Thanks for your input.
@@PennsyPro its all good i worked for the Hocking Valley from 1986 till late 2011 and was on the board when we made the trade
West Side Lumber Company (Georgetown Loop) 3-Truck Shay #12
West Side Lumber Company (Georgetown Loop) 3-Truck Shay #14
Man, we haven’t seen 5629 running since. Also, the Rock Island railroad should restore the 5629 to good condition.
The 5629 is long gone. She was cut up in the 1980s.
@@PennsyPro In 1990: Rio Grande 5629 Returns!
@@danielwalton9012 Plus The 2nd Tender: GTW 5629 A in 1989!
@@danielwalton9012 Wrong, Pikachu and Eevee saves Grand Trunk Western 5629 instead sold to the Union Pacific.
didnt you hear about 1309 back to service at the beginning of 2021?
were did 734 long tender come from
Her long tender came from a New York Central Mohawk.
GTW 5629 was meant to be preserved for further excursion but sadly scrapped following a legal battle between Metra and Richard Jenson. They tried to save it but couldn't. Some are currently either being restored or have been scrapped completely.
Man Richard Jensen had terrible luck, didn’t he?
The Southern RR wanted to buy or lease 5629 so they could turn her into a 'Southern PS-4' like the one in Smithsonian. Jensen wouldn't lease the locomotive for any affordable price, so it never happened. I except it'd be around today if that'd happened
#33 also ran on the Hocking Valley Scenic Railroad in Ohio before being sold to Jerry Jacobson
In 1988 Southern Pacific 4449 Would Screw up Metra, & Later Rebuild GTW 5629! 4 display in 1990! Rio Grande 5629 + Union Pacific 844!
Plus 5629A in 1989! Making it The Most Famous Steamer Ever Rebuilt!
Bad idea
Fake news
Just to say, I think 734 still operates
I just love it to much 15:54
This is so cool
its weird for me that 1309 is restored and watching about 1309 leaving the B&O museum not running :/
I think that was 759’s whistle on the wrong engine cb&q 5632
L&N 1992.
Richard Jensen Passed Away March 16 1991? But Why He Retired The Grand Truck Western 5629
In 1990 The BNSF Railroad welcomes it! By Union Pacific 844!
@Daniel Walton Wrong-o, BNSF Railroad didn't welcome at all and I hope Union Pacific 844's excursions would be cancelled someday.
5632 reminds me of 261
Funny how GTW 5629 has a survivor numbered 5632 and CB&Q 5632 has a survivor named 5629.
Cen you make video ebavt santa fe 3751
2:32 I need to know the video source
But In 1993 Glenn Jensen Takes over!
Looks like 734 will be coming back as of March 2022
This is my personal opinion, so my fellow railfans don't get upset. 2716 from the videos I've watched of "him" yes I said him because 2716 has a masculine chuff and steam exhaust bark. While let's say 765 has a more quieter femmine park and chuff. I'm a frim believer that locomotives can have masculine attributes and then some can have feminine attributes. This hole every Locomotive is a "she" is just silly to me. But I am happy 2716 is getting the restoration "he" deserve either though 2707 the locomotives sister should have one to. It's really hard seeing just sitting there at the IRM rotting.
why the fuck are we discussing a gender of a train, stop it, get some help
I Missed 5629
750-2,000 Blueprints are it Yes.
750 is it.
4:59 1238 on the western Maryland
759 has 111 sisters.
Hey pennsy mind if a borrow some clips
Depends. If the clips you intend on using are ours, email us, but if they are not, no.
@@PennsyPro alrighty then cause im making my own top 12 retierd steam excursion stars i choose 12 cause i turned 12 last week
& Just Like Southern Pacific 4449!
Bad idea, I hope Pikachu, Riolu and Eevee will thrown 4449 into a scrapyard.
So there is two 5632s i guess
I feel bad for cb&q 5629
Hope you learned, not to have music playing when viewers should be listing to a steam engine
r/woosh
Its unfortunate the fate these locos suffered
sad
L&N 1992.