MLB Has An EJECTION Problem
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- Major League Baseball Umpires have been bad for a while now, and one of the biggest reasons why they have been considered bad, is because of them falsely ejecting players. From Bryce Harper to Aaron Judge, these umpires have been throwing out all of the best players in MLB for silly things that should not be considered a problem however, have been with the recent umpiring going on. Lets talk about these umpires and some of the worst ejections in baseball
#mlbb #mlb #yankees #umpire
When the A.I. Ump throws out Alex Cora for saying poopy
How’s 6th place in fantasy baseball buddy
You change one letter in the title and suddenly it’s weird
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LMFAO
MLS?
I believe that issue might be the underlying reason why the one the video is discussing exists in the first place lol
@@RainerWarrior666 Yeah your right!
I remember one clip where a hit batter argued with the umpire when the pitcher was ejected. It was quite funny.
Umpires are the main reason we, the fans, pay all that money just to see the star players get thrown out of the game.
I'm an umpire and i have coaches get mad at me all the time, i dont eject them because I'm not very sensitive unlike mlb umpires, still waiting for that first ejection😅 BTW great video, i agree with everything you said
Theres no professional sports league in the world that allows referees to just eject anybody for any reason.
if you fine the umps for their bullshit like they fine the players it would stop almost immediately
Agreed
Exactly, if they set up a review process after the game handled by an outside party where umps could be fined or sidelined for so many games after making a frivolous ejection they'd at least think twice before they tossed someone and it'd cut out a lot of these heat of the moment ego trips.
There are very specific standards for removal/ejection and the umpires write very detailed reports for their ejections. Some of the standards for removal are dumb, but that’s an MLB issue not an umpire issue.
Like gockey fights, many fans look forward to ejections and the antics that happen. It's not a problem at all
First off, this is one of the biggest reasons I don't like baseball! Second, if you want to change it, just sending it to a vote among the other refs will not change anything, due to biases within refs. If a lead and seasoned ref decides to throw out someone, then the rest of the refs will likely vote with them just to keep their job (in most accounts). If you want to change this policy, first be clear in the rule book what would qualify an ejection. Then, set up an unbias committee to look into the circumstances surrounding the ejection, and punish the ref who made the call. And if enough bad calls are made, then a firing of the ump! If a player can get cut for bad play, then the refs should also, and this should be all sports not just baseball!
It’s become a no tolerance for who I work for. That’s how bad baseball parents are 😂
Players and coaches know what they're doing when they get tossed 99 percent of the time... Pete Rose was ejected on a day the stadium was handing out posters of him. He was ejected bc he told the umpire he needed to go back to umpire school. After the game, he sent an autographed poster to the umpire with the message, keep up the good work. It was the umpire's first season and Rose was testing him... These are professionals who have spent their lives around the game... They know you can't argue balls and strikes. They know if they walk away while they say something inappropriate it will make the umpire look bad to the crowd when they get tossed. They know you can't showboat (like dragging an on deck circle after being instructed to stand on it) ... these men know what they're doing and when you start bashing the umpires for doing their job, congratulations, you have been successfully manipulated by those players... ...all that being said, mistakes are made and we've seen a couple this year with judge getting tossed for the Fan's words and the catcher getting tossed for moving his glove... But those were legit mistakes that were understandable from the umpire's perspective... I wouldn't be opposed to some kind of mechanic by which to undo an ejection for cases like those, but they are truly outliers... They know what they are doing when they get themselves tossed...
Umps: *_MUH FEELINGS! YER OUTTA HERE!!!_*
Not even gonna waste my time. I went as far into the video as when it said that there aren’t any rules regarding ejection. That’s flat out untrue.
To be fair, all these “for not doing anything ejections” you’re right there is no hot mic’s so you don’t know if he didn’t say something to get ejected. You can’t argue balls and strikes simple as that. There are some ejections that aren’t warranted sure but a lot of the time it’s warranted.
Bryce Harper getting tossed is Bryce Harper's problem not the umpires. He's a well-known whiner who complains to the point where he becomes a disruption to the games and umpires should not tolerate him or the others who almost all have a history of chronic whining. I hope at some point these whiners get it through their heads that we don't want to watch them go through their histrionics. We just want to watch baseball.
Bryce Harper is one of the most popular players in the sport….
You should be allowed to challenge ejections
I think these are all legitimate ejections. I think we should eject every player in every game so we can all just watch what we really want to, re-runs of Jersey Shore
Now I will say there are repercussions that one umpire in spring training was fired!
That is true
Ejections makes baseball exciting to me
Just like the NBA for some stupid fouls that not even a fell
Well managers dont harass umpires
Didn’t Dave Martinez get ejected in game 6 of the World Series?
Yes the stat for was players, I should’ve probably clarified!
They have a pitch cl9ck problem
The pitch clock literally doesn’t matter bro
@@peskytalk yes, it does. But I respect your opinion
They're just mad that their lord and savior angel hernandez isn't around anymore.
True
i was there on that hot sweaty sunday to see 3000
That’s a very cool moment, congrats for seeing it
If I was an umpire I’d just eject an entire roster because it would be hilarious
True
Me too haha
Umpires do have the authority to clear an entire bench of all reserve players if the umpire cannot identify a heckler from the dugout.
Nah the ump dropped his donuts in the car that’s why they mad 😭
They’re basically cops
@@peskytalk Fr tho
You mean an umpire problem
AYO BRUH
So wrong on your entire take in this video smh clicked do not recommend channel
What is wrong about this viceo
Umpire get their feelings hurt waaaaaaaay to easy, it’s like they are teenage girls.
I officiate football and basketball, have done so for the last 20 years. In that time span, In basketball - I have tossed 2 coaches and 3 players. In football, none for conduct but a few for illegal hits to the head.
Yes, it’s two different sports compared to baseball but as an official - setting the tone by making the correct call sets the tone.
I actually had a conversation with a former umpire asking me why I didn’t toss a player because he started using colorful metaphors at me, I simply told him I don’t take it personal, he is just upset and warning him before I “T” him up usually helps the situation or telling him I will watch for it next time or admit you missed the call.
MLB needs to tell their umpires to stop getting their hurt.
what's worse is that the league office is threatening suspensions if players and managers don't cool it
And the umpires just get a stern talking to if they were wrong!
the sad part is that a player can't even talk about the officials either without mlb issuing retaliatory fines against coaches and players
@@daywalkingvampire1521 why do they need to say anything ? Did Hank, Willy’, Roberto, Bob, or Sandy bitch about every call to reporters? No. These clowns now complain if the wind is blowing. Kudos to the umpires!! And the league!
@@nelsonporter8387 EXACTLY RIGHT.
@@nelsonporter8387when did you play or umpire? Just using your own logic.
I'm 43 seconds in and you've already made a key incorrect assertion - there are rules governing ejections, and after watching every single ejection this season on close call sports, all but maybe 2 were the result of one of these rules being violated, with the other two being ejections that were because the umpire thought the player or manager violated a rule and didn't bother checking to see if it was in fact that player or manager.
Did I say anywhere that most ejections aren’t justified? If I did I didn’t mean to, most of them definitely are, like at least 90% of them, BUT the “rules” stopping ejections can be broken literally whenever the umpire feels like it. There’s no one really governing them. Even if they do after the game A LITTLE BIT, it could still ruin a game because of how they reacted in the moment.
@@peskytalk Right the ump can eject and after the game say my bad. The dude who commented just wants to argue. Good video
relax, the umps aren't going to have sex with you. and your never going to make it the the MLB as an Ump.
It’s not an ejection problem-it’s a respect problem of the players!
@@nelsonporter8387 the umps are pretty disrespectful to the players as well. its an Ump's have to big of an ego and to thin of skin.
Here’s a fix. If an umpire ejects someone they are now contractually obliged to do media time after the game and explain themselves.
A couple of weeks ago, Jomboy featured an ejection where the umpire threw someone out. “Who? Who did you throw out?” He had simply pointed at the dugout and tossed someone out. “I don’t know. Someone has to go.”
“Who?”
He had no idea.
These ejections come with fines and sometimes suspensions. Umpires must have a damned good reason or they need to pay the fine. “Looking at me with a smile on his face after I made a questionable call” (aka showing me up) is not a good reason.
that jt ejection in SPRING TRAINING was the worst one i’ve ever seen in my life so absurdly bad. Umpires have just become toxic and want to control the game these days it’s just so annoying because of the point you made people come to watch in person or on tv to watch their favorite players when they get thrown out then the umpires completely take the fun out the game and people start to lose interest. Need to take some notes on hockey refs 🗿
Ik. That one still makes me just wonder what was Happening in that man’s brain
@@peskytalk JT's only ejection ever. That's crazy.
The umpires in ST are just like most of the players who play there. Minor leaguers.
This umpire didn’t survive this ejection. ‘Nuff said.
Add in that previously at that at bat when JT asked for a ball the ump threw to Birdman. So the next time when he doesn't feel it coming JT assumes "oh umps throwing it" it's some BS
We're fast approaching the extinction of umpires because they've managed to go from "humanly-flawed" to "complete crap but we're untouchable gods."
the umpire that ejected the player for moving the on deck circle needs to grow a since of hummer
Allow the 2 managers to get together and eject an umpire! That will make the umps think twice about ejecting players and making bad (Hernandez-like) calls as well.
Goofy
Never will happen.
The umpires are so soft people are getting ejected for saying nothing we want to see are favorite players play
They are extremely soft
@@peskytalktoo soft, but they cant replace them
it takes 7 years minimum to become an mlb ump, and thats very rare
mlb would 100% replace them but they unfortunately can’t
Absolutely false. Other than Anthony Rendon getting tossed by Marty Foster, players get tossed for something they said. How do you not toss a guy who is supposedly "walking away" but turns quickly and obviously says something vulgar or inappropriate. You get tossed. Simple.
@@HealeyBrianT but like in Harper’s case he calmly said something about there umps zone and got tossed. Also in prior years they didn’t eject them so quickly
@@USAbaseball99 do you think that is the case as you don't think that they add a certain word to the things that their saying to get tossed?
99% of ejections are fully deserved.
Mostly because Players and managers are utterly ignorant of the rules. In reality MLB have a out of control players/Mangers problem. As an example Torey Lovullo got ejected yesterday arguing a pitch that was literally Middle Middle. The ammount of players that lose their minds over a pitch either correct or within a half inch of being correct is insane.
That said I agree that the 1% of bad Ejections should have reprecussions.
I also agree that at least 95% of ejections are perfectly fair. But those 1-5% that aren’t are VERY VERY bad
@@peskytalk I don't mind a bad ejection, so long as it has consequences.
Everyone makes a mistake, but you shouldn't compound you mistake with a further mistake and not get called to task for it.
That number is way too high. Umps pull the ejection handle far too often. The thing is there is zero menaningful oversight.
My solution? Make umps stay after the game to hand-write a report justifying ejections to the Commissioner. If its not worth the ump's time to write it up afterward, its not worth the ejection. The reports can even be secret. Just make the umps think "Is this worth 15 minutes and writer's cramp?"
@@MGower4465 players get fined when they are ejected, umps should get fines when their egos get bruised and they toss someone for nothing.
@@MGower4465 I totally disagree I watch Close Calls Sports, so i've seen every ejection for the last 3 years at least
it's extremely rare for an umpire to pull the trigger unless a player or manager steps over the very well drawn lines of behaviour.
Don't make it personal - You can say that was a ball, you can't say YOU suck at your job and you definately can't sware at them.
You know normal behaviours that are expected in ANY workplace.
The world baseball federation need set ejection rules. Ejection shouldn’t be up ump because a unp o umpires could be got up the wrong side of bed or got something against the pl
Try “MLB has an AUTHORITY problem”
It’s both. But I like the word ejection more
No...they have an entitled player and manager problem. And an "I'm an idiot with a failed UA-cam channel about baseball even though I know nothing about the sport
Excellent video. You should do a video on umpires who touch players and managers. If a player or manager cannot make contact with an umpire, wtf gives the umpires the right to touch players? Laz Diaz is the biggest culprit. If a manager argues with an umpire, there is no reason for another umpire to intervene. Let them argue like men. It seems as if the umpire needs his bf or bff to bail him out. The manager has the right to argue, so the umpire should hear him out instead of walking away while the other umpire blocks or holds the manager. Umpires have become soft wussies.
Im just waiting for a team to just pack up their gear and leave mid game.
I don’t think sponsors would like that at all
Wouldn't bother the umpires one bit. They get paid regardless
@@fiveoh51Yeah but the MLB would pay thousands in refunds and havw to deal with the aftermath
I wouldn't just say an ejection problem. More like a umpires union problem. Umpires are getting worse & worse with their performance & attitudes but because of the umpires union MLB cant do much about it. The umpires need to be disciplined & held accountable for their bad actions!
Brice Harper deserves to be ejected, simply because he's Brice Harper.
3:37 Thats what Jomboy Media is for, figuring out what is being said when incidents happen.
I can’t even watch baseball anymore. The MLB has ruined the game. Especially the umpires.
It needs to be majority of umpires saying you should be ejected to be ejected. Three of the four need to eject someone. Umps have proven they can no longer be trusted. Too many narcissists.
Also, Lackey was clearly throwing at the hitter. Good ejection.
The stupidest ejection that I have heard about is thatan umpire makes an ejection motion but doesn't know who he ejected. After they realized no one should be ejected they stated that someone "needs" to be ejected from the game and told the manager just to choose someone in the dugout to be ejected.
Ik like why is the motion like the end all be all of power, just because he called “safe” doesn’t mean that can’t be fixed, so why does an ejection motion HAVE to throw someone out
Can you now post a video covering all (dozens) the Emails and Training videos the MLB/NCAA/NFHS sends to Umpires Telling them that coach and player behavior has gotten out of hand and telling Umpires to be less tolerant.
I don’t have access to those emails. So not really
Umps are anoying
What the video fails to take into account is the fact that sometimes the umpires’ asses are in the jackpot.
When the intro is more than 25% off the total video. Just old clip we all seen before with a boring voice over.
Yeah he kinda sucks
Angel Hernandez biting the curb 8k
This is not right at all. There are absolutely guidelines that are followed by umps for ejections.
They don’t follow them, therefore they aren’t real
What I would love to see is if an unjust ejection happened, every player on that team said something to umpire to get ejected. Leaving no one to play.
Man the amount of inaccuracies in this video is amazing. Please do more research. For 1 Beltre wasn’t moving away from the foul ball he moved the circle closer and was basically in view of the pitcher. The clip you showed even shows him moving closer.
He pulled it away from the umpire i meant, he was trying to not get hit by a foul ball, the angle where he was standing made it very difficult to get hit, where the circle was made it much easier. He was not doing it to get in the eyes of the pitcher it was 100% bc he was in a safer spot, the game was 18-6, he was not trying to steal signs for his teammate 💀
I mean just banned ejections like it’s annoying
Angel hernandez and Ian kinsler
Maybe mic up the umpire like in Rugby
2 days ago Cleveland Guardians vs Seattle Mariners well 2 people from Mariners got ejected from the game and let the Guardians win 8-0
I have to disagree. If they wanted the problem to stop, owners would tell managers “Stfu or you’re fired” & managers would say the same to players.
3:09 I was at that game!
This is what makes baseball a joke. No proper rules, just opinions or hurt feelings of umps deciding games.
It’s largely a rule problem, and mostly stems from bad calls at the plate. The idea that you can’t calmly say, “C’mon, that one was a little low, Bob” without being tossed is insane. Especially in an era of computers giving us instant feedback on each call behind the plate.
They should put up on the Jumbotron every pitch immediately after the call, including the box drawn onscreen, so the umpires get immediate feedback and tighten up their calls themselves. That alone would stop a lot of this. The players see their errors writ large on the Jumbotron, so why not the umps’?
To all the people saying that this or that ejection was justified because the player "broke the rules", I think that maybe it's time to review the rules. I really fail to see how "showing up the umpire" should be an ejectable offense. Umps aren't gods. Maybe (since MLB seems to be so concerned about how long games take), time a player's rant. If he rants and screams for more than, say, 15 seconds, then toss him. The ump could stand there with a stopwatch and say, "OK, you've got 15 seconds." Player or manager blows off steam, game resumes, and no harm, no foul. Right now, to run a professional baseball player, who the team may be depending on, at the whim of a thin-skinned ump, is absurd. Also, each and every ejection should be reviewable by a team of players, management, and umps. The umps should be fined (like the players) for unjust ejections.
From an umpire’s perspective: I agree that ejections should be able to be reviewed by the crew before becoming official. HARD disagree on both Beltre and the fans.
Beltre was showing up the umpire when moving the on deck circle, and definitely deserved to be tossed, regardless of game situation.
Fans can be brutal. If you don’t believe me, go umpire a middle school or little league game. We HAVE to be able to police the worst of the worst, because often the stadium crew or the game officials present don’t have any real idea what is being said or done by the fans in question.
I agree yes the umpires are way to quick to eject it’s kind of ridiculous but at the same time the players are childish little pansies and should also know when it’s the right time to talk back to an umpire and not do it with every single strike call. Baseball needs to grow up a bit in general
Two of the most problematic umpires, Joe West and Angel Hernandez have gone, but unfortunately, many unfit for the job remain. I wouldn't consider paying to go to a MLB game at present-too many fragile egos and power tripping fools amongst the umpiring crews. The blame has to go to MLB administration for lacking the balls to go toe to toe with the umpires union that protects these incompetents. MLB must have more tools and ways of dealing with the clown umpires who take away from the game. I apologize to all professional clowns out there for the comparison.
Good video but you’re overlooking one thing. There are no solutions. Only because the umpires will NEVER give up the almighty all seeing all knowing and always right position. Never. They are God on that field and would never give an inch of that back. If an ejection was ever overturned they’d just toss the next guy for the first little thing he did or immediately pick on an entire team. And almost any conversation can be misrepresented as “arguing a call that they’re not allowed to argue “.
You are wrong with almost everything you say here. The umpires were right in throwing out most of these players. The umpire is in charge. You listen to him. It's all about respecting authority. The ump is the authority, not the player. Beltre disrespected the ump and got what he deserved as did most of these players and managers. The Realmuto ejection was wrong but they aren't perfect. Stop trying to turn people against authority just because you don't have respect for it. Do better!
Any ejection while the player or manager is walking away is a bad one. And umpires chasing after players is worse. You don’t have to HEAR some things; just let it go. Look at Bellino and MadBum: Bellino should have been suspended at least for the rest of the season.
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For the John Lackey one, the umpires shouldn't have thrown him out because it was on purpose, but because he lacked ball control. I remember that happened during a Rays-Yankees game, the pitcher hit three Rays in an inning and the umpires tossed him because his ball control sucked.
#troll #rulesclueless
I disagree, The biggest problem I have with this (and why I believe we need MORE Ejections in MLB and other sports) is because ,In the social media Era, many players have become spoiled and entitled. Do we really want that behavior to be shown to kids that see many of these athletes as role models
Simple. The offended ump can request an ejection, but another ump has to actually order it... So the offended one has to stop, think and EXPLAIN why he's so butthurt and get another ump to sign off on it.
WHEN THE UMPS HAVE MONEY ON THE GAME
Probably not
it’s probably illegal
@@peskytalkoh you mean like the ump that was just suspended for just that?
The umpires have a massive ego problem and MLB needs to step in and fire umpires one by one and clean house until they get the message. I am wondering if minor league umpires have this massive ego? They are off to a good start getting rid of Angel Hernandez. Now CB Buckner and others must go. A manager or player can not even speak to them anymore. As you say in the video, If I pay money to see a game, I would not want to have a star I pay to see be ejected in the first inning.
Bryce Harper, the biggest whiner in baseball, is a bad example. And there are protocols that should be followed, by rule. If the umpires fail to follow protocols they are disciplined accordingly.
Umps need yellow and red cards and a red can only be given after one yellow 😂that would at least curb ejections (don't need a pedantic response of "that's soccer/football not baseball" :)
People are already trying to get the umpires replaced by computers. You'd think they would smarten up if they dont wanna lose their spot altogether! People are at the stadium to watch baseball, not power tripping umps!
When robot Umpires come in and nobody gets ejected human umpires are gonna be like it’s ridiculous that we don’t have jobs anymore we were perfect and idk how anyone could see that🤣🤣🤣
The Beltre one was because he wasn’t in the circle, he was standing closer to the batter than the circle
Well I agree with the Tuner ejection. If an Umpire tells a player to stop, the next word he says, he’s gone. Doesn’t matter.
Let me say this, it’s the Umpires discretion to eject a pitcher on whether or not they deemed it intentional. If you think it’s intentional than ejecting the pitcher is warned as well as the Manager.
Judge getting ejected was a real head scratcher. The most that man ever says is "really?" and just gets back in the box. He rarely even says a word on bad calls low in the zone by his ankles and that happens all the time. Umps got big heads i.e. Angel Hernandez, may he enjoy retirement far from a baseball field
On that ejection he was talking a lot to be fair. But he was walking away, a player should never be ejected while walking away imo
He calls the umpire and the call itself "horseshit". Ejectable offense 100% of the time.
Bro is commenting all of riding the umps like your life depends on it. Umps are soft its fine to say that and they make mistakes and should be called out. Stop meatriding@@HealeyBrianT
Boone needs to get ejected because it distracts everyone from his terrible managerial skills
I play baseball and an in the dirt pitch that i didnt swing at was a strike every time he ums it is a bad call night and a guy was stealing and he throwv the fourth ball and then it was goanaa be bases loaded but there wasa 2 outs and he called ball game??
So context on the jt one for people who dont know the pitcher that day was messing with the umpire so when the umpire threw the pitcher a new ball jt didnt realize so when he wanted another one he like oh he going to throw it to the pitcher again
Agree with all but Lackey. He was intentionally trying to hit Kinsler. But a warning should have been given after, not an ejection. It was not due to "lack of control"
Man hasn't pitched in live action in a month and a half and you are sure it's intentional. Unless you have psychic powers, how could you know. What bad blood did he have against Kinsler.
Ump called it a foul ball and still called it a foul ball when it was fair and was a home rum.
Hit ball that hit any part of foul pole is a fair ball and a home run
UMPIRES ARE MAKING BASEBALL WORSE WHEN IT COMES TO CLUB,TRAVEL,LITTLE LEAGUE, AND MAJORS
6:26 There was history behind the Lackey ejection. Lots of juicy baseball history.
Wasn't an organist ejected for playing 3 blind mice?
And even a costumed mascot
Machado did it on purpose and should've lost his right to play trying to slide spikes-up.