Euro 2024 Preview - Are the Netherlands Underrated?

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  • @intothefray12
    @intothefray12  5 місяців тому +7

    The Netherlands are here! Let me know your thoughts below 👇🏼
    (As an aside, I have misspoke in this video and have Netherlands in 1st and France in 2nd, this will be corrected on Monday, aka Frances video, apologies!)

    • @zMarsIsCool
      @zMarsIsCool 5 місяців тому

      Same predictions as you, i see them finishing second on GD but going out right away.
      France - 9
      Netherlands - 4
      Austria - 4
      Poland - 0

    • @intothefray12
      @intothefray12  5 місяців тому +1

      @@zMarsIsCool I've actually misspoke in this one and I have Netherlands 1st. This was meant to be said when I talked about potential overconfidence from a good group showing. Although I still agree they are going to be knocked out in the last 16!

    • @zMarsIsCool
      @zMarsIsCool 5 місяців тому

      @@intothefray12 Ohhh, okay.

    • @leonfeargus
      @leonfeargus 5 місяців тому +1

      I'm a bit confused. You say the Netherlands are a weak team in a weak group but the Netherlands are in the FIFA top 10 and I do believe that France are as well. Wouldn't that make them a strong team in a strong group?
      So if they finish first, which is unlikely but possible, they will likely face off against Turkey, Czechia or Georgia and if they finish second, they will likely face off against Slovakia, Romania or Ukraine. Isn't a win against any of those teams at least as likely as a loss?

    • @intothefray12
      @intothefray12  5 місяців тому +3

      @@leonfeargus Yep, all I can do is apologise really, as I've messed up how I've explained it.
      Let me clarify. I think the Netherlands are pretty weak. They are lacking an in form goalscorer. Depay, Gakpo and Weghorst aren't in fine form. De Jong missing makes the midfield weaker. I fear a little for van Dijk's fitness given a very full on season for Liverpool too. If you disagree, fair enough, I can see the arguments to the contrary such as them being top 10 in the FIFA WR like you say. This is just my opinion.
      In spite of this though, I think they beat both Austria and Poland, as I don't rate either of those nations highly. I think France do the same. In the game between them, I see a draw despite me thinking France are better, just because they tend to take a group match off, especially under Deschamps.
      In regards to last 16 match, I'm fancying Czechia to be the surprise of the tournament and I think they will knock Netherlands out.
      Sorry for the confusion, it is my bad. I hope you understand my thoughts now even if you disagree!

  • @esc1074
    @esc1074 5 місяців тому +13

    04:22 weak team in a weak group? France , Austria and Poland, doesnt seem like a weak group to me. What a disrespect

  • @arno9233
    @arno9233 5 місяців тому +11

    Thanks for making this video! The quality of this years Oranje is in the width it seems to me. For example the midfield can be replaced by the engine room of PSV, should we start with guys like de jong, Reijnders, koopmeiners. Malen can be a super sub should he not start. Koeman is doing a great job in preparing two ways of playing in terms of formations. It’s much time we start beating top countries though. Last time we beat one, it was Belgium under van gaal back in the 2022 summer (2 times, nations league). Suffered losses against Argentina France Croatia Italy and Germany since..

    • @intothefray12
      @intothefray12  5 місяців тому +1

      Thank you! Best of luck at the Euros, the world always smiles watching Oranje

  • @bjehulk
    @bjehulk 5 місяців тому +17

    I have high hopes for the Netherlands, I think they are a sleeper team. That being said, I think they will struggle against elite opposition because they don’t have an elite striker, and Wout Weghost, is the only out and out number 9. On the other hand though, they have arguably the best defense on paper, a great midfield, a good mix of youth and experience as well as a ton of players in form.

    • @randelux6185
      @randelux6185 5 місяців тому +8

      then you problably never heard of brobbey

    • @jelleversteeg3244
      @jelleversteeg3244 5 місяців тому +2

      Brobbey>Depay

    • @boxybob6976
      @boxybob6976 5 місяців тому +1

      There ain't a number 9 alive that's more "out and out" than Brian Brobbey

    • @mkooij
      @mkooij 5 місяців тому +1

      People actually think brobbey is an elite striker? 😂😂

    • @gman6862
      @gman6862 5 місяців тому +3

      After the past 2 games I also think they might become the best team of the tournament. They have been looking as the best team, especially with star midfielder de jong (also Europa leaugue winner Koopmeiners) dropping out, because of injury. It is looking a bunch of “good” players (not worldclass) becoming a worldclass “team”.

  • @yadukrishnam8139
    @yadukrishnam8139 5 місяців тому +3

    Netherlands has a great chance to win this time. Most of players are in form. Great defense if you ask. Defense wins you titles. This time they got van de van too.
    Experience and youth mix.
    Feels Xavi Simons will be a emerging young player

  • @KimarKurosaski
    @KimarKurosaski 5 місяців тому +14

    I think the Netherlands are always dark horses for these tournaments. Talent wise I honestly think only England France and Germany are ahead of them. I can see them making the semis.

    • @intothefray12
      @intothefray12  5 місяців тому +3

      There's some really good players in there. If Depay is in the mood they could be really entertaining

    • @manuelfelicio7856
      @manuelfelicio7856 5 місяців тому

      E Portugal?

    • @KimarKurosaski
      @KimarKurosaski 5 місяців тому

      @@manuelfelicio7856 Portugal and Spain I think talent wise are comparable to the Netherlands I really think only the original teams I mentioned are definitively more talented.

    • @JuniorJuni070
      @JuniorJuni070 5 місяців тому +1

      germany is very bad..
      wat are you talking about ?
      england lost against iceland
      england is the worst team in europe.. wtf are you talking about

    • @KimarKurosaski
      @KimarKurosaski 5 місяців тому

      @@JuniorJuni070 what exactly is your point Germany has beaten France in the last year. Since you seem so knowledgeable about shit who in terms of raw talent is outdoing France, Germany and England??

  • @arno9233
    @arno9233 5 місяців тому +3

    Yes they were underrated before the 4-0 against Canada. Now people see it’s one of the teams to make it far

    • @Hyde_Hill
      @Hyde_Hill 5 місяців тому

      Even better against Iceland. Although the loss of De Jong and Koopmeiners are a shame.

  • @RenevandenAssem
    @RenevandenAssem 5 місяців тому +2

    Great video Into the Fray however Probably changing manager before the tournament ? Where did you get that from. The Netherlands have never done that and will not do so now two weeks before the Euro's start.
    The reason Van Dijk almost never played for the youth teams was because he was originally a striker. Only after switching to CB did he get noticed.
    Frenkie is injured so I am not sure if his fitness perse is an issue.
    And Koeman has never stated that he will play 1-4-3-3 instead he has a couple of formation options on the pitch and practiced The 1-3-5-2 being one just as 1-4-3-3 and even 1-4-2-3-1 given the players available.
    Thanks for your series great seeing them.

    • @intothefray12
      @intothefray12  5 місяців тому +2

      Maybe it was lost in translation, the changing the manager bit was a joke on how often Netherlands hire former coaches.
      Thanks for watching!

  • @amarecudjoe9501
    @amarecudjoe9501 5 місяців тому +4

    They aren't underrated they are basically dutch psg they have the potential to go all they each year but always slip up

  • @palo3658
    @palo3658 5 місяців тому +2

    I think Netherlands are in the hardest group together with the group of Spain.

  • @sherlockhomeless7138
    @sherlockhomeless7138 5 місяців тому +1

    We have some great talents like Tijani Reijnders, Joey Veerman, Micky van de Ven and Xavi Simons. But I'm not impressed by our coach. He did well in 2018 in the Nations League. We beat Germany and France then. Koeman was national coach then too. But our playing style isn't very distinguishable. Koeman isn't a tactical genius. Our goalkeepers are somewhat talented, but none of them really stands out. But hopefully Bart Verbruggen can up his game this european championship. Some people say we have to play defensively because we lack top quality forwards, but I don't think that makes any sense. In 2014 we lacked top quality defenders and for that reason we played 5-3-2 most of the time. Now we have defenders that are world class and who are fast enough to correct any mistakes (Van de Ven and Van Dijk are some of the fastest defenders in the world). I'd love to see Gakpo, Memphis and Simons as our forwards. Unfortunately Ian Maatsen hasn't been selected for the euros. My team: Verbruggen - Van de Ven, Van Dijk, De Ligt, Geertruida - Frenkie de Jong, Schouten, Reijnders - Gakpo, Memphis, Simons.

    • @intothefray12
      @intothefray12  5 місяців тому +2

      You do have great talents, I'm excited to see how they get on in their first real taste of tournament football. I think the reason I'm so down on the Netherlands is largely due to Koeman. I've had some backlash in the comments from other Dutch fans who seem to think I'm being too harsh on you guys, but he is the major reason. Theres a good chance I'll be wrong! Best of luck for the tournament!

    • @Jordan9ine
      @Jordan9ine 5 місяців тому

      How can u add schouten and exclude koopmeiners😂

    • @user-rk9kb2sd9b
      @user-rk9kb2sd9b 5 місяців тому

      *_"We have some great talents like Tijani Reijnders, Joey Veerman, Micky van de Ven and Xavi Simons"_*
      For your information, Veerman is the only one that truly stands out from those 4, the other *_true_* talents are Maatsen (22), Frimpong (23), Geertruida (23), Verbruggen (21), Zirkzee (23) and Koopmeiners 26).

    • @user-rk9kb2sd9b
      @user-rk9kb2sd9b 5 місяців тому

      @@intothefray12
      *_"I think the reason I'm so down on the Netherlands is largely due to Koeman. I've had some backlash in the comments from other Dutch fans who seem to think I'm being too harsh on you guys, but he is the major reason."_*
      You have no clue what you're talking about noob. Koeman was in charge before, and lead them to the final of the Nations League ( he couldn't coach the final, because he could resist the offer of Barcelona to become head coach), while they were in a group with France and Germany. The lost in France with 2-1, beat them at home with 2-0. They beat Germany at home with 3-0, had a 0-0 draw in Germany.
      And look at it now:
      England lost against Iceland with 1-0, the Netherlands beat that same Iceland with 4-0
      France drew 0-0 against Canada this month, the Netherlands beat Canada also with 4-0.
      Dutch players knows Dutch football inside-out, maybe his approach might not have worked always the best abroad, but with Dutch teams it has always been a great combination.
      And the amount of young (23 years or younger) Dutch players with a transfer fee of over 40 million that are now on the target list of major clubs is astonishing. Even Zirkee, only allowed to join the group after people had to leave after injuries, is heavily targeted by Man United, Arsenal, Chelsea, AC Milan, Juventus, etc, yet he would have to cost 55 million (40 million for the club, 15 million for the agent), and they left him home initially... that should tell you something.
      Even their #1 goalie is only 21 years old. If you're the #1 goalie of the Netherlands at the age of only 21, then I can ensure you it's based on pure talent.
      Dude, you have have no clue what you're talking about with your dumb video, try to educate yourself next time, and check the transfer fees of these players, heck even Madrid is trageting 2 Dutch players.

    • @sherlockhomeless7138
      @sherlockhomeless7138 5 місяців тому

      @@user-rk9kb2sd9b Well, we disagree. But of course I agree about Maatsen and Zirkzee. They just weren't in the squad yet when I sent the message.

  • @mmartijn78
    @mmartijn78 5 місяців тому +1

    Best defense, top 2 midfield, attack bad!

    • @user-rk9kb2sd9b
      @user-rk9kb2sd9b 5 місяців тому

      Attack is not bad at all clown. Just because they don't have an attacker that stands out like Kane or Lewandowski, doesn't mean their attack is weak, quite the opposite, it's quite good, just not excellent. You seem to forget that Depay is almost top scorer of the Dutch nation team, he only needs 5 more goals to equalize with Van Persie, he also scored in the last 2 matches, and gave assists.

  • @Joejoesan
    @Joejoesan 5 місяців тому

    As a Dutchman I must agree. This is a weak team, especially if Frenkie de Jong is injured and Memphis has just come back from an injury. Maybe Xavi Simons can finally shine (because so far he hasn't). But then, anything is possible. Midfielders Reijnders, Koopmeiners and Veldman have had a great season so far and at the World Cup in 2014 we didn't expect much from our national team, but we beat Spain in our first match (5-1) and became third, beating Brazil in our last match.

    • @intothefray12
      @intothefray12  5 місяців тому +1

      Respect the honesty. It'll be really interesting to see how you get on. Best of luck in the tournament!

  • @Hyde_Hill
    @Hyde_Hill 5 місяців тому +1

    Sub Wijnaldum for De Jong and then have him switch places with Koopmeiners. Then move Van Dijk left and De Ligt right and you are probably the commentator who actually got closest to what our first 11 was going to be before the injuries. So really commend you for that as saw a lot of badly informed takes online. Lots starting with Weghorst for the memes for instance. (Even if he was key in Utd getting third and Rashford scoring so many goals). Now with the injuries Koopmeiners becomes Schouten and Wijnaldum becomes Veerman in your set up. I recommend watching the Iceland game as Koeman did some interesting things tactically. More passes behind the back line and formation wise a 3 4 3 diamond or box in attack and 4 4 2 in defense. If we make the knock outs as second we get Ukraine or Romania most likely. Those we will beat. Portugal in the quarters is the big hump as they are our bogey nation since for ever.

    • @intothefray12
      @intothefray12  5 місяців тому +1

      Thanks mate, it was tricky to get the lineup right with so much conflicting information as you say. And appreciate you being respectful as I've had death threats on this video for getting it wrong with Wijnaldum lol. Koeman certainly has both the nous and personnel to pivot on tactics so it's interesting to see how he does. Fingers crossed you're more successful here than last tournament!!

    • @Hyde_Hill
      @Hyde_Hill 5 місяців тому

      @@intothefray12 Frank De Boer and him caving to public/ pundit opinion cost us the last Euro's. Dropping Weghorst for Maalen (,as most pundits and fans don't get how valuable Weghorst is/was as he lacks technique,) otherwise we would have been semi finals most likely. Unacceptable about the death threats btw and yeah at the time reasonable enough guess seeing as he is a favorite of Koeman's.

  • @aorta538
    @aorta538 4 місяці тому

    Can't w8 to play 5PA1N during the finals...!
    -Love Zandvoort 🙌

  • @BoontjeB_nl
    @BoontjeB_nl 5 місяців тому +3

    The 'neverlands'? Intentional or not? 😅

    • @Slic3r010
      @Slic3r010 5 місяців тому

      I heard that too

  • @Flowerkool
    @Flowerkool 5 місяців тому +1

    Well, I don’t know how they are rated but recon round of 16 to round of 8 max.

  • @bilbilo123
    @bilbilo123 5 місяців тому

    Why is Zirkzee not selected to the squad? He seems very hyped in europe these days.

  • @martijn_yt
    @martijn_yt 5 місяців тому +1

    'The Dutch team has a lot of great players'
    ...
    'The Dutch team is weak and will crash out in the first knock-out round'
    Instead of this creative use of logic, an objective analysis using the current strength of the teams and their recent mutual matches would have lead you to the conclusion that a 2nd place finish behind France is the most likely outcome for the Netherlands in group D. The now of group E is scheduled to play the no 2 of group E in the round of 16. Although it won't be easy, (and I might be slightly biased), i still believe that the current no 7 of the world has a decent chance to survive the round of 16 against the no 22 (Ukraine), the no 42 (Slovakia).
    If the Netherlands can indeed pull off this upset in the round of 16 and advance to the quarterfinals, who will they meet ? Most likely this will be the expected winner of group F, Portugal. Matches between Portugal and the Netherlands have always been very close, with a slight edge for Portugal. I do believe however that Portugal has made a mistake by selecting Ronaldo. Ronaldo is a legendary player, but also an aging player that is not competing at the highest level anymore. He is also a player that defines how a team plays. Just as in the last world cup, I don't expect to be able to play the entire tournament at a high level.
    In contrast, the Dutch team has currently a large group of young talents that will grow in the tournament. I believe this difference will be the deciding factor in this otherwise very close quarterfinaI.
    Following this 'logic in absence major surprises' , either Germany or Spain will be the opponent of the Netherlands in the semi final. Recent results indicate that Germany is able to play great matches, but is still less consistent than Spain, which will be the deciding factor for this nonetheless incredible quarterfinal.
    If you follow the same 'logic without surprises' for the other half of the schedule, the semi finals will be:
    second semi final will most likely be ;
    Spain - The Netherlands
    England - France
    (But they might as well be : Germany - Portugal and Italy - Belgium ;))
    😜

  • @mike04574
    @mike04574 5 місяців тому +3

    Predicting a quarters loss on penalties to portugal

    • @wilhelmdietz4023
      @wilhelmdietz4023 5 місяців тому

      Nah, they will demolish Portugal and send Ronaldo back to Portugal crying. Which honestly is not hard to do.

  • @gamesinperfection
    @gamesinperfection 5 місяців тому

    you forgot to say we lost to France first game when missing 12 players , because of a groap illness and alot injury's, second game agianst France we where stil missing around 6 players. The bigest shock whas agianst Croatia when we where pretty chanceless with almost the best 11 players we have on the field.

  • @defranken
    @defranken 5 місяців тому +1

    Weak team in a weak group? What the fuck have you been smoking.

  • @istaranlaura4342
    @istaranlaura4342 5 місяців тому +8

    The last time tha Niederländes wonn a nok out game is back in 2004

    • @intothefray12
      @intothefray12  5 місяців тому +4

      That is crazy! 🤯

    • @istaranlaura4342
      @istaranlaura4342 5 місяців тому +1

      Yes dies is really crazy dies national team is so on locke​@@intothefray12

    • @BrianStorm742
      @BrianStorm742 5 місяців тому

      And we didn't even really win that one, as it was a penalty shootout.

    • @hipbubble7685
      @hipbubble7685 5 місяців тому +2

      In the european cup that is? Definetely doesnt apply to world cups

    • @istaranlaura4342
      @istaranlaura4342 5 місяців тому +1

      @@intothefray12 Franch1
      Austria2 Niederlander3 Poland4

  • @BapeStarr14
    @BapeStarr14 5 місяців тому +2

    He didnt select Maatsen

    • @intothefray12
      @intothefray12  5 місяців тому

      I couldn't see the future! I had to guess who would be cut

  • @dennisgodman9732
    @dennisgodman9732 5 місяців тому

    Don’t think they’re underrated I just cant say with confidence that they’re getting past the likes of France and Portugal

  • @arno9233
    @arno9233 5 місяців тому

    Hilarious Dutch my coach rotation wheel😂. Hope that out of ten hag, slot or bosz, bosz will be first after some European glory with psv to try NT coach

  • @BoundInChains
    @BoundInChains 5 місяців тому +2

    Maybe if they avoid brawling they might just be rewarded with

  • @Bontheimer
    @Bontheimer 5 місяців тому

    Yes

  • @encorefootball
    @encorefootball 5 місяців тому

    Quarter-finals maximum

  • @BrianStorm742
    @BrianStorm742 5 місяців тому +3

    As a Dutchman, I think we have an underrated side and we may at least have a somewhat memorable tournament.
    That being said, both Van Dijk and Koeman showed an honestly shocking lack of winning mentality when interviewed last week. It was this almost casually pessimistic attitude, to the point where it was actually kind of offensive to the fans imho. And if THEY don't even believe in our chances, then why the hell should we bother?

  • @rickyleyland-my4is
    @rickyleyland-my4is 5 місяців тому

    NO 👍👍👍, they are very similar to England. Have so much talent, but can't put it together as a national team. They should have won throphys 👍

  • @friemelfredie
    @friemelfredie 5 місяців тому +2

    I don’t like your prediction 🫣😀

  • @martijn_yt
    @martijn_yt 5 місяців тому

    Koeman is undisputed in holland, both at his first period, where he build a great new dutch team, and now as well :)

  • @manohoebink
    @manohoebink 5 місяців тому

    Netherlands is not going to survive like always haha.

    • @ysinvangulik1004
      @ysinvangulik1004 5 місяців тому +1

      Why are you laughing ?
      They need to play their first game yet !?
      You have no clue.

    • @manohoebink
      @manohoebink 5 місяців тому

      @@ysinvangulik1004 Did you see the qualifications? Strop dreaming, wake up!

  • @jermainesabajo7225
    @jermainesabajo7225 5 місяців тому

    every tournament the same shite, even if they have the best team they wont win shite bruv, its the Netherlands !!