So my uncle is Jim Drummond, and this was his Maserati. He owned it for a few years before selling it to move overseas. Very cool you have his car now.
Damn that's crazy. My grandfather was named Jim Drummond and bought this exact car back then after retiring as a cardiothoracic surgeon. I can't believe doug has it now. Rest in piece pops
@@mp4715 i did notice it in the past, but it's still no big deal. He'd have to head back out and re record the part that was messed up. When you have a car for a review it's not always possible. I'll deal with a little noise.
@@saintpariah Yeah, it was usually done because you could lock the glovebox, and prevent valet drivers and such from entering the trunk or the fuel door.
To be fair, he said he TRIES to review well-kept, factory cars with very little mods. The rarer it is, the bigger the exceptions. And you have to admit that finding a 23-year old Maserati in this condition is almost impossible lol.
@@bigmacdaddy1234 maybe the other 3o commenters should get the ear buds out too!Maybe you should learn to read Instead, then have a go at counting bright boy!
A classic Doug review would talk about the facts that the F1 transmission needs a clutch replacement every 15K miles but since it's being sold on Cars and Bids I guess that detail was left out...
Mate, not true. I have owned the Maserati shamal ,this car . Along with 355 and 328 Ferrari. The clutch that lasted the longest was and still is in this car.
He did a video on one of these a few years back and made sure to stress that. I remember prices on the manual cars skyrocketed after that video got really big.
Historically, in Italy, a spider is convertible that was designed to be a convertible and not an existing coupe without a roof. So in a sense, with the shorter wheelbase, the spider is a real spider.
The 3200 GT featured the very last 100% Maserati engine. In fact, the 3200 GT was the last pure Maserati... It was a 3.2 liter with a twin turbo layout, exactly like modern Ferraris, twenty years before. To me, this was the most désirable of all these bodies, especially with its manual gearbox and the boomerang tailights ❤❤
I have a 3200 GT. Lots of torque mid range, more than the 4200 GT and gives a real kick in the back overtaking. Concerning maintenance and reliability, good if regularly maintained at an independent specialist. Some parts can be tricky to get, but lots of enthusiast club support in Europe. Also can save on Bosch and other parts shared with other models and not with Maserati label mark up. Engine is great close to 400 - 410 bhp and not the 370 BHP claimed as Ferrari wanted to not let the 3200 have a figure more than the 355 Ferrari. The 3200 GT was released when Maserati was put under Ferrari management.
@@royturner2957 thank you very much for the precisions. I own a "genetically" quite near the 3200 GT despite its small 2800cc 18v V6 : the 430 ("biturbo quattroporte"). The engine torque was a phenomenon, but the chassis was overloaded with it. I guess the 3200 GT is far superior in every aspects. And hopefully reliability!
The difference between Doug's review of this car (with a manual gearbox) from April 2020 and this one is quite drastic. He really stressed in the old review how the Cambiocorsa was terrible, clunky, unreliable and was to be avoided, was slightly more critical of the interior quality, was a bit more jovial with his commentary on some weird quirks, was more critical of the rear seat space and features (maybe because he used to climb into them back then), and he mentioned how the exhaust not wasn't quite as loud as some later Maseratis. Also in that review he acted less surprised at how much it had depreciated since new, but still maintained that it was an excellent deal in manual form. Now I get that his opinions may have genuinely changed over 4 years, but the fact that he avoided talking about the transmission until 12:46 in this video might say something, even before we get to his claims about it feeling "more mechanical" (I'm won't argue whether he's right or wrong, just that this is a huge change in his opinion). Also he made no mention in this video as to how unreliable the Cambiocorsa is. It's probably obvious why this is, and this is far from the first example. But really is this even a review if he needs to sugarcoat or paper over some of the flaws in these C&B auction cars?
Doug's reviews have become so saturated and artificial, and also noticeably lazier. The reason we watched him was for his open honesty and transparency on all the quirks and features. And now he overlooks things and only seems to care about promoting cars for C & B auctions. This channel has really changed for the worst...I'll sometimes pop in to watch a video but it used to be so much better.
Agree 1000% . His videos for the past year or 1y and a half have been so difficult to watch, but in the last 6 months or so it’s just impossible. The moment i hear “BIG NEWS ! This car is being auctioned on C&B” and i scroll through and see he’s again in that bunker-type garage AND sitting on that chair (strongly doubt he’s using the chair for health problems) i just dislike the video and leave. It’s so incredibly obvious in his commentary that he desperately wants to sell the car and make its value go up. He’s sugarcoating everything. No more honest reviews, LOTS of mistakes in pretty much every video i’ve managed to watch.He’s nothing compared to years ago, but i guess that’s what money (and selling out) does to people. I hope he’s taking a look at his views, dislikes,comments and does something about it or people are gonna leave for good. i keep coming back hoping something’s changed
Doug, I owned a 3200GT and had a love & hate relationship with it. Looved it while it was working which only was about 10% of the time. 90% of the time it was at the Maserati/ Ferrari dealer getting serviced. And oh boy, that was expensive... DO NOT GET AN OLD MASERATI.
I have owned a 2002 Spyder (convertible ) cambiocorsa Red since 2011. I think by now I have put in about the same amount of money from the original cost. However I redid the interior, the canvas top , added a Larini Xpipe. I feel like Johny Sack from the sopranos every time I try to start up the car that it may blow up lol. I do have to say that when I take her out with the top down I feel like Maverick flying a F14
If you go in with your eyes open, and can do most of the work yourself they can be a bargain. If you need to go to the dealer every time it breaks, yes you will go broke. But there is nothing that unusual about working on them, you just do need to research what make/models/years/options are likely to break and be expensive to replace.
Glad to see he’s reviewing another one, was just going through his playlist yesterday reminiscing over the bashful Maserati reviews, I’m sure this will be another one at least to an extent 😋
This is the chassis that the Ferrari California is based on. The only one to have is the manual version. I like the "boomerang" tail lights of the earlier version. This car deserves to be way more popular than it is. Thanks.
Ironic that the height of Johnny's career was to get this car (as he said a fine italian sports car was his big dream). Then Chirstopher buys this for cheap, just like he could today.
@@sandorbence2067that episode was definitely sponsored by maserati. at the very least it was that car because they didn’t get a ferrari for whatever reason
My dad has a manual 2002 3200GT Assetto Corsa in red, with the boomerang tail lights, and it's such a stunning looking car. I've got fond childhood memories sitting in the small rear seats while the car roared along the road, but it's been a decade since it was last on the road, needs a lot of work done... much like my own italian car, an Alfa 159, needs a lot of work done... 🙊🙈😆 You put up with the headaches because when you walk up to it with an admiring gaze, or when you put your foot down on a fun bit of road and hear the engine growl, the recovery trucks and repair bills are all worth it 🥹
One of my Neighbours always has this Car but in a bright blue but with those "Euro-only Tear-Drop Rear Lights" parked outside his Garage through all Seasons, including the harsh Winter here in the Alps and he's driving it almost daily since at least 10 Years. Always made me wonder how a Maserati can handle all of that and apparently stays reliable. It also sounds fantastic and has a different Presence in Person compared to on Pictures or in Videos. Prost & Cheers from Berchtesgaden in the Bavarian Alps
Love these cars! My dad had an 05’ Maserati GranSport, the more “hardcore” version of this same car. Was as reliable as an eggshell holding a brick, but was so beautiful and sounded amazing!
I never realized just how gorgeous the interiors of these truly are. Absolutely timeless design in and out. Also, I'll damned if that isn't the most theft-proof ignition system I've ever seen.
Actually, he is incorrect about the start up procedure. The car can be started either in neutral, or in gear with the brake pedal depressed. He tried to start it without his foot on the brake and found only 1 of the 2 start conditions.
Mic was unbearable for this one, watched anyways because I love these things, so unreliable, so terrible, so cool hahaha Of course it’s in “I’m over 70” gold, love it. If I won the lottery I’d drive this around my gated community for hours, maybe try to fit my golf clubs in it.
Buttons in the glove box are for safety to be locked in Spider version of the car as you can lock the glove box and leave the car "topless" and it just shares those parts with the Coupe.
more Italian brands did the same in the day: for instance, have a look at the Lancia Kappa: it also has the buttons in the glove box, and also the same mirror adjustment unit in the centre console.
Ghibli is a FANTASTIC car. Amazing, powerful and reliable. Thanks to people like you the Ghibli has depreciated so we can buy them cheap now. There is nothing cheap about new Maserati’s. I love mine!!
Spare tires are often considered a structural part. They help absorb heavy rear end impacts. So while the donuts aren't quite as good as full size spares, I wouldn't consider it "crappy" or be glad it's gone.
Exactly. Doug is weirdly fixated on quirky trunk release images than things that help drivers in the real world like the spare tire and kit he bemoans as "crappy". Most cars today don't even have spare tires whatsoever.
Trunk and gas door release buttons were in glove compartments from many manufacturers for decades, same with turn signal stalk cruise control. You know that but you always mention it like you are surprised.
Yep. Trunk and gas door buttons are in the glove box so when the glove box is locked you can’t access the trunk or fuel tank. You give the valet the “valet key” which will unlock and start the car but won’t unlock the glove box or the trunk.
When Doug said the owner had a diagram of the buttons at 15:06 I was expecting a laminated printout from the Maserati owners manual, not a clumsy hand-written jumble of notes on a loose-leaf sheet of notebook paper!
Every gm product in the 80's, 90's and 00's had the multi stock turn signal/cruise control/wipers. That's millions of cars. How can you say that cruise on a turn signal stalk is a quirk? Not at all! Same with the trunk release.... That used to be the standard for decades!
The trunk popper is in the glovebox probably for security. Instead of being able to lock the trunk and glovebox separately, you can do it with a single lock.
The trunk button and fuel door button in the glove box is a holdover from a previous era. That's valet stuff. Lock the glovebox so a valet also can't steal your gas or whatever is in your trunk
@@HoolaaBaaloo In this car's era and earlier, you could often get a valet key that would open the doors and start the car but not unlock the glovebox because it wasn't fully cut. I had a Chrysler like that. Before this, cars usually had one key for the ignition and one for the doors/trunk/glove box. I guess it was presumed that the valet wouldn't lock your car.
@@HoolaaBaalooYou’ve never heard of a “valet key”? 🤦🏻♂️ It’s a key with no buttons and will only unlock and start the car. It won’t unlock the glove box or trunk.
@@NovaResource of course I’ve heard but doubt it that a italian car from that era has this feature, at that time you likely see that stuff on german cars
I know some will disagree with me here, but I'd rather have a Jag XKR (X150, the 2006-14 one) over this. It's more beautiful, has a much roomier and more usable trunk, the interior is very nice too (especially in its traditional Jag colors and trims), the car feels just as special and above all it's more reliable...the initial 4.2L is bulletproof and in its R version it pumps out close to 420 hp...quite a quick car! Overall the XKR just makes more sense.
The quirks of Italian cars never cease to amaze me. I had a FIAT 500 Abarth when they first hit the states and the only way to unlock the trunk if the car was running was to get inside and close door and open and close the door open handle there was no trunk open button very fustrating.😂
My dad traded his 7 series for his friends Cambio Corsa F1 for a single day on my 16th birthday and let me drive. It was a Capristo exhaust and sounded incredible. I would definitely buy my own now with a manual or manual conversion.
The cambiocorsa is fine, especially with a formula dynamics DBW. Test drive it before insisting on a manual. I test drove a maserati 4200 GT manual before getting my Maserati 4200 Gransport (cambiocorsa). I love manuals, but found the manual linkage in this car relatively unengaging and the manual didn't feel like it suited the pace of the vehicle (kept above 5000 rpm this thing moves through the gears FAST) More importantly, the gransport version was a nicer version with a lot of styling and other improvements, and well worth it over the base 4200/Coupe. I would have loved a gransport manual, but alas, none were ever made. Test drive a coupe/4200 GT and a Gransport before you decide and I'll wager you likely will end up in a cambiocorsa gransport
The trunk popper in the glove box and cruise control on a stock are normal features for 90's cars. I think Doug knows this. (Maybe it's a quirk for an early 2000's car).
Doug: "if you have even the slightest level of sophistication about cars" Also Doug: Calls the intake manifold the "top", calls the valve covers "the sides in red"
Yes, the mic is bad in this video but ever since Doug moved into this dungeon this distracting echo has appeared in each video taking place there. Come on, Doug, get a sound guy. (Also IMHO you should ditch the office chair as it looks a bit strange).
I love to see that you’ve come around on these a bit! I’m at 60k miles on mine. Other than a couple sensors, it’s been a great ownership experience. They really do have a special feel to them and there’s plenty of room for a kid or two in the backseat. You can knock 300 miles out in one of these and it’s actually comfortable!!
I was about 15 back when these came out and up in Connecticut I remember 3 or 4 I'd see driving around in green and silver. Very refined for the Italians and honestly still holds modern looks today.
Wait, this car has the transmission that Doug said is absolutely horrible and extremely unreliable?!?! He said this in a video from 3 years ago. Let me quote him. “ the most important thing is his car is the transmission. “ Cambio course automatic jerky, unreliable transmission.” “ I keep saying that the automatic was a terrible transmission and let me explain, it was a terrible transmission. Indescribably clunky and awful. Every time it shifted it would lurch like a beginning driver that didn’t know how to drive a stick shift. just a terrible, horrible, driving experience. in addition, the transmission has become extremely unreliable and nobody wants to drive it and nobody wants to maintain it. The worst of the worst, in terms of transmissions.” Those are Doug’s words! And he just breezes over this in this video, doesn’t mention anything about this, probably because he’s trying to sell this car on cars and bids.
A few Italian cars of this era liked to be able to lock the trunk independently from the rest of the car. Therefore the trunk unlock button is inside the glovebox that it is also lockable… you could then use a valet key that only opened the driver’s door and the ignition! My dad had a Lancia Delta with the exact same feature and for even folding down the back seats you needed a key! I think it was specifically thought for the Italian mafia, you could stick a body in the trunk and still take for dinner, the mechanic or cleaning the car without worrying about it😂
i found a way to connect hdmi to the television port of the sat nav on my 98 mercedes CLK. i use it with samsung dex with a mini keyboard with touchpad. i've got google maps and everything. Works brilliantly. So the screens in 2000s cars aren't entirely useless
I think Doug has a desk job now, reviewing inside while sitting in an office chair 😊 that's the sign of a great channel. Keep up the awesome vids Doug I enjoy every single one.
You can tell Doug is on the younger side. GM had placed the trunk releases in the glovebox, and the CC controls on the turn signal stalk for years. (a'la my 1999 Lumina)
Doug views are declining. He tracks them religiously, as he’s mentioned in previous TST podcasts, and usually has a good understanding of why he is popular. If he reads comments still, I’ll tell him why I’ve stopped watching. His first video that hooked me was his new Ghibli review where he tore it to shreds. I still remember the tube of toothpaste. He was objective. He said on podcasts that he doesn’t take manufacturer trips because then he believes it would not keep him objective. He was right, it kept him objective. Now though he has cars and bids, which has reversed that mentality. He can’t be as objective or tear a car to pieces like the Ghibli, because he wants it to sell on his site. It shows in all of his new reviews. He doesn’t want to say much negative or realistic because then it’s a mark against someone’s car he is trying to sell. Even in this review he BARELY mentions maintainability of an early 2000s Maserati. Or the diagram of the infotainment switches? Old Doug would have ripped that to pieces. I hope he gets back on track but I guess he doesn’t really need or want to.
That dainty reverse selector is also very delicate, easy to break, and impossible to get replacement parts for. I had to 3D print a replacement part for my friend's Coupe. Thankfully that part seems to be holding for now.
He knows so much about the cars he reviews, he really prepares. I wonder how much time he spends prepping / studying. So much better than when thre reviewer knows almost nothing about the car and is figuring it out as they review. This guy is really the best at this.
Man in all due respect for Doug experience, I don't know if a 22 years old Maserati is a bargain... its very expensive to service and super behind in safety & tech... I would recommend that person with 20k to get maybe something else with such a low budget he's clearly not rich enough to afford Maserati ownership
I own an 05 coupe manual. The later cars are better and if you find a manual, expect to pay 8-10k more , which is the cost of 2 clutch jobs let’s call it…and worth it. What’s a 6 speed Ferrari 360 worth? Its crazy these are so cheap. The car has been pretty reliable, more reliable than my friends corvette C6 which has been a nightmare of a car. I’m not sure the late model Coupe deserves its bad rap. Drive it 5k a year, keep up with small items and it’s a wonderful, beautiful machine (and the interior of a C6 vs these? My coupe is solid, the C6 sounds like creaking plastic). Get one in manual while you can for cheap money…
Doug owns a lamborghini and a 20$ microphone. Do the world a favor and pick up that dji wireless mic. For God's sake I thought something was wrong with my speakers.
The Maserati coupe my Dad had said Pininfarina on the side. Inside it said leather by Armani. He also optioned the skyhook suspension package (Active Damping). The exhaust was upgaded to a full Tubi system. Later he purchased the Gran Sport model. Different clutch engagement program. Slower off the line. Red light race lost to a supercharged Nissan Frontier. That was the end of that in favor of a SL55 AMG which replaced it. Weird quirk about the trident on the front grill was purposely not centered.
I have a friend who has one and he's rather afraid to drive it because he's afraid something will break and cost him a ton. And he owns a foreign car repair shop. But I've ridden in it, it's gorgeous and fast, and it tempts me.
Having owned one of these, I can confirm that they are amazing to drive. The engine, transmission and suspension are impressive. The interior is gorgeous. The driving experience is fantastic. Cons and why they are so cheap? A/c stopped working, turned out to be the switch on the dash which was 1k from the dealer. I instead took it apart and discovered it was a cheap plastic shaft behind the knob, which I fixed with jb weld. That was all that was wrong. As you work on it, you find cheap, thin plastic all over the car. The glove box will fall off in your hand, again because the hinge is thin plastic. Speaker covers are thin plastic and so forth. The transmission went out. Turns out again, the trans was fine but a module on the trans went out and that one part was 10 grand. I sold the car. It's wonderful to drive and painful to own.
While I don’t disapprove of Doug reviewing cars in cars and bids, I don’t think he should be talking about pricing on a car he is trying to sell and make money on. I don’t know if cars that he reviews do better in auction but it seems like it would.
Who the hell gave Doug a chair. He has really lost sight of what made his channel great. Next thing we know he will be doing a review while wearing long pants.
A lot of cars have the trunk release inside the glove box or center console. And I don't know what Doug is talking about about with the cruise on the turn signal... US automakers did it for decades.
When Maserati wasn't just a status symbol for people without taste or class.I love how folks still complain about the cambio-corsa.Literally don't like to do any work at all to go fast,only want to hold a steering wheel and press buttons
Doug I’m European born and trust me many Renault, Peugeot and Citroen has the cruise control on a specific “satellite” behind the steering wheels. Believe or not some recent Renault still have a similar one. If I may this system is not that complicated, there is certainly a learning curve but afterwards it’s pretty practical 😅you can grip the steering wheel very securely and make the changes 😊
To be fair, all GM vehicles from the 70s thru the 90's, utilized the turn signal stalk for cruise control. And some Ford models in the 80s used the turn signal stalk as the horn (I'm looking at you Crown Victoria)!!
Hi Tower81@@Tower81year we had the same kind of horn location in many (almost all) 70's 80's and some 90's European cars. When I had the chance to drive one always looking for the horn ahah
Clicked this vid and got hit with a $8400 repair bill
Sounds about right. These are disasters to own.
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@@Chthonian121they’re pretty at least lol thankfully for my wallet I’m a function over form guy
*Laughs in used porsche cayenne s*
So my uncle is Jim Drummond, and this was his Maserati. He owned it for a few years before selling it to move overseas. Very cool you have his car now.
Damn that's crazy. My grandfather was named Jim Drummond and bought this exact car back then after retiring as a cardiothoracic surgeon. I can't believe doug has it now. Rest in piece pops
@@subzero8344 Peace*
No way! My uncle (used to be my aunt before the surgery) and name changed to James Drummond and he (she) used to own this car!
@@IceTTom 💀
Fun fact: My mother's also called Jim Drummond, and she owned that car as well!
Doug’s microphone scratching are louder then the cars he reviews
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so annoying
@@E30ESTit's only a couple times, I barely noticed it
@@volvo09 also has been repeated in some previous videos of doug and i bet you can noticed it!
@@mp4715 i did notice it in the past, but it's still no big deal.
He'd have to head back out and re record the part that was messed up. When you have a car for a review it's not always possible.
I'll deal with a little noise.
Johnny Sack's Maserati! Ginny hasn't rode with him yet. With her knee, she has trouble getting in and out of the seat.
That’s right that is Johnny Sacks car😅
Jersey’s a small state, she could tip it ova
I like a woman you can’a grab on to’a something
her mole rides on the back seat
@@Userxxx840 heeeey some guy wife's, come on
Doug’s mic has been bad recently
I came here just to say that.
Not sure folks brought it up!!
He films with an iPhone. Maybe some lint got into the mic.
Doug is a cheapskate
THIS! Is why u need a sound guy😅
Sounds fine to me
Doug is the type of guy to totally forget General Motors had cruise control on the turn signal stalk across their brands for decades
Toyota did it too. Around the same time as this Maserati
also BMW 5 series
And VW group cars for a long time.
And many models had trunk release buttons in the glove box.
@@saintpariah Yeah, it was usually done because you could lock the glovebox, and prevent valet drivers and such from entering the trunk or the fuel door.
Quirks and features of this microphone... no wind screen
He's indoors, there's no wind. There's an issue with the mic
broken mic wire
It's the friction with his shirt, that's why it sounds like only when he moves
2019 Doug: "I will only review perfectly stock cars as they left the factory!"
2024 Doug: "The shift pattern is on a Post-It note in the glove box"
To be fair, he said he TRIES to review well-kept, factory cars with very little mods. The rarer it is, the bigger the exceptions. And you have to admit that finding a 23-year old Maserati in this condition is almost impossible lol.
Doug we love you, please hire a sound guy
Or at least buy so gaffer tape for that lav cord
He can afford to with nearly 5 million subscribers!!!
He sounds fine. Clean the wax out of your ears.
@@bigmacdaddy1234 maybe the other 3o commenters should get the ear buds out too!Maybe you should learn to read Instead, then have a go at counting bright boy!
@@bigmacdaddy1234 I'm sorry you have hearing loss. The rest of us care about quality.
A classic Doug review would talk about the facts that the F1 transmission needs a clutch replacement every 15K miles but since it's being sold on Cars and Bids I guess that detail was left out...
Mate, not true. I have owned the Maserati shamal ,this car . Along with 355 and 328 Ferrari. The clutch that lasted the longest was and still is in this car.
Hmm a 328 with F1 trans? Nah. Lies.
Only if you drive in automatic mode. Driving in manual mode properly can get you 30-50k miles per clutch
30000miles equals new clutch
He did a video on one of these a few years back and made sure to stress that. I remember prices on the manual cars skyrocketed after that video got really big.
We need the “Doug with the dirty knee cap from kneeling in parking lots” era back
LOL
My knees always hurt watching him!!
#dirtykneedoug lmao
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Agreed! Here it's just too classy, a chair? Come on
Historically, in Italy, a spider is convertible that was designed to be a convertible and not an existing coupe without a roof. So in a sense, with the shorter wheelbase, the spider is a real spider.
Fix your mic, Doug.
It's his clothes/skin rubbing on the wire that's making the noise, he needs to tape it down. I do this for a living so I'm extra annoyed
@@thecianinatoror just get a rode wireless mic like so many others use, myself included.
he's already made money off you using adsense he dunnit care
Fix your attitude, entitled man.
I remember back in the day, bad sound was a hallmark of Doug's videos - and now it's back!
The 3200 GT featured the very last 100% Maserati engine. In fact, the 3200 GT was the last pure Maserati...
It was a 3.2 liter with a twin turbo layout, exactly like modern Ferraris, twenty years before.
To me, this was the most désirable of all these bodies, especially with its manual gearbox and the boomerang tailights ❤❤
I have a 3200 GT. Lots of torque mid range, more than the 4200 GT and gives a real kick in the back overtaking. Concerning maintenance and reliability, good if regularly maintained at an independent specialist. Some parts can be tricky to get, but lots of enthusiast club support in Europe. Also can save on Bosch and other parts shared with other models and not with Maserati label mark up. Engine is great close to 400 - 410 bhp and not the 370 BHP claimed as Ferrari wanted to not let the 3200 have a figure more than the 355 Ferrari. The 3200 GT was released when Maserati was put under Ferrari management.
@@royturner2957 thank you very much for the precisions.
I own a "genetically" quite near the 3200 GT despite its small 2800cc 18v V6 : the 430 ("biturbo quattroporte").
The engine torque was a phenomenon, but the chassis was overloaded with it.
I guess the 3200 GT is far superior in every aspects. And hopefully reliability!
The difference between Doug's review of this car (with a manual gearbox) from April 2020 and this one is quite drastic. He really stressed in the old review how the Cambiocorsa was terrible, clunky, unreliable and was to be avoided, was slightly more critical of the interior quality, was a bit more jovial with his commentary on some weird quirks, was more critical of the rear seat space and features (maybe because he used to climb into them back then), and he mentioned how the exhaust not wasn't quite as loud as some later Maseratis. Also in that review he acted less surprised at how much it had depreciated since new, but still maintained that it was an excellent deal in manual form.
Now I get that his opinions may have genuinely changed over 4 years, but the fact that he avoided talking about the transmission until 12:46 in this video might say something, even before we get to his claims about it feeling "more mechanical" (I'm won't argue whether he's right or wrong, just that this is a huge change in his opinion). Also he made no mention in this video as to how unreliable the Cambiocorsa is.
It's probably obvious why this is, and this is far from the first example. But really is this even a review if he needs to sugarcoat or paper over some of the flaws in these C&B auction cars?
Agree 100%. I don't trust any of Doug's reviews of cars being auctioned on C&B. I used to really like this channel. Not any more.
Doug's reviews have become so saturated and artificial, and also noticeably lazier. The reason we watched him was for his open honesty and transparency on all the quirks and features. And now he overlooks things and only seems to care about promoting cars for C & B auctions. This channel has really changed for the worst...I'll sometimes pop in to watch a video but it used to be so much better.
Agree 1000% . His videos for the past year or 1y and a half have been so difficult to watch, but in the last 6 months or so it’s just impossible. The moment i hear “BIG NEWS ! This car is being auctioned on C&B” and i scroll through and see he’s again in that bunker-type garage AND sitting on that chair (strongly doubt he’s using the chair for health problems) i just dislike the video and leave. It’s so incredibly obvious in his commentary that he desperately wants to sell the car and make its value go up. He’s sugarcoating everything. No more honest reviews, LOTS of mistakes in pretty much every video i’ve managed to watch.He’s nothing compared to years ago, but i guess that’s what money (and selling out) does to people. I hope he’s taking a look at his views, dislikes,comments and does something about it or people are gonna leave for good. i keep coming back hoping something’s changed
breaks my heart man
People's taste changes over time. I know the opinions I had years ago are different from today.
Doug, I owned a 3200GT and had a love & hate relationship with it. Looved it while it was working which only was about 10% of the time. 90% of the time it was at the Maserati/ Ferrari dealer getting serviced. And oh boy, that was expensive... DO NOT GET AN OLD MASERATI.
Lmao I knew it. I literally just made a comment about this and it only took like 4 seconds for confirmation on it 😂
I have owned a 2002 Spyder (convertible ) cambiocorsa Red since 2011. I think by now I have put in about the same amount of money from the original cost. However I redid the interior, the canvas top , added a Larini Xpipe. I feel like Johny Sack from the sopranos every time I try to start up the car that it may blow up lol. I do have to say that when I take her out with the top down I feel like Maverick flying a F14
If you go in with your eyes open, and can do most of the work yourself they can be a bargain. If you need to go to the dealer every time it breaks, yes you will go broke. But there is nothing that unusual about working on them, you just do need to research what make/models/years/options are likely to break and be expensive to replace.
how come you are not working on the car on your own.... isnt it common sense before spending so much for a italian old car
@@YorumiTechwell not everyone knows how to repair a car though
I little known quirk: The dials on the instrument cluster are made by Jaeger LeCoultre, a very expensive Swiss watch maker.
Correct. Also found in many Italian expensive cars through the years. The "lesser" ones got Veglia-Borletti.
I like the classic Doug Maserati review when he stuck a tube of toothpaste in the panel gap of the interior trim 😂
Ah the ghibli review, yeah I remember that one fondly lmao
Glad to see he’s reviewing another one, was just going through his playlist yesterday reminiscing over the bashful Maserati reviews, I’m sure this will be another one at least to an extent 😋
Gentlemen, a short view back to the past
I came specifically for this comment
This is the chassis that the Ferrari California is based on. The only one to have is the manual version. I like the "boomerang" tail lights of the earlier version. This car deserves to be way more popular than it is. Thanks.
I thought about buying the Cambrio Corsa but it really is a step down from the manual
Closing the trunk was personal
That also hit hard for me too... I definitely felt it.
I definitely winced a bit.
12:40 GM put the cruise control on the turn switch for more than 20 years.
sopranos fans know this as johnny sack’s (later on, christopher’s) car. once christopher bought it, the car was repossessed by the feds 🤣
Ironic that the height of Johnny's career was to get this car (as he said a fine italian sports car was his big dream). Then Chirstopher buys this for cheap, just like he could today.
Yup, first thing I thought when seeing it.
Ginny couldn't fit in it
@@sandorbence2067that episode was definitely sponsored by maserati. at the very least it was that car because they didn’t get a ferrari for whatever reason
@@eddieruTony would have had trouble sitting in that in his scenes. The Maserati suited Johnny Sack much better though.
My dad has a manual 2002 3200GT Assetto Corsa in red, with the boomerang tail lights, and it's such a stunning looking car. I've got fond childhood memories sitting in the small rear seats while the car roared along the road, but it's been a decade since it was last on the road, needs a lot of work done... much like my own italian car, an Alfa 159, needs a lot of work done... 🙊🙈😆 You put up with the headaches because when you walk up to it with an admiring gaze, or when you put your foot down on a fun bit of road and hear the engine growl, the recovery trucks and repair bills are all worth it 🥹
One of my Neighbours always has this Car but in a bright blue but with those "Euro-only Tear-Drop Rear Lights" parked outside his Garage through all Seasons, including the harsh Winter here in the Alps and he's driving it almost daily since at least 10 Years. Always made me wonder how a Maserati can handle all of that and apparently stays reliable.
It also sounds fantastic and has a different Presence in Person compared to on Pictures or in Videos.
Prost & Cheers from Berchtesgaden in the Bavarian Alps
Love these cars! My dad had an 05’ Maserati GranSport, the more “hardcore” version of this same car. Was as reliable as an eggshell holding a brick, but was so beautiful and sounded amazing!
Mines been super reliable. Great car to drive either way
I never realized just how gorgeous the interiors of these truly are. Absolutely timeless design in and out. Also, I'll damned if that isn't the most theft-proof ignition system I've ever seen.
Yep no toothpaste tube here!
Maybe the older ones relative to other cars of the era. The newer ones are dodge caravans, literally.
Actually, he is incorrect about the start up procedure.
The car can be started either in neutral, or in gear with the brake pedal depressed.
He tried to start it without his foot on the brake and found only 1 of the 2 start conditions.
Mic was unbearable for this one, watched anyways because I love these things, so unreliable, so terrible, so cool hahaha
Of course it’s in “I’m over 70” gold, love it. If I won the lottery I’d drive this around my gated community for hours, maybe try to fit my golf clubs in it.
Remarkable how well this car has held it's value. They were like $20,000 back in 2012. Basically hit their bottom and held it for 10+ yr
everything just doubled in price starting around 2020 lol
Buttons in the glove box are for safety to be locked in Spider version of the car as you can lock the glove box and leave the car "topless" and it just shares those parts with the Coupe.
more Italian brands did the same in the day: for instance, have a look at the Lancia Kappa: it also has the buttons in the glove box, and also the same mirror adjustment unit in the centre console.
Johnny Sac's new car with Tony Soprano riding shotgun.
Ghibli is a FANTASTIC car. Amazing, powerful and reliable. Thanks to people like you the Ghibli has depreciated so we can buy them cheap now. There is nothing cheap about new Maserati’s. I love mine!!
We love old car reviews. Keep em coming Doug👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
Spare tires are often considered a structural part. They help absorb heavy rear end impacts. So while the donuts aren't quite as good as full size spares, I wouldn't consider it "crappy" or be glad it's gone.
Exactly. Doug is weirdly fixated on quirky trunk release images than things that help drivers in the real world like the spare tire and kit he bemoans as "crappy". Most cars today don't even have spare tires whatsoever.
Trunk and gas door release buttons were in glove compartments from many manufacturers for decades, same with turn signal stalk cruise control. You know that but you always mention it like you are surprised.
Yep. Trunk and gas door buttons are in the glove box so when the glove box is locked you can’t access the trunk or fuel tank. You give the valet the “valet key” which will unlock and start the car but won’t unlock the glove box or the trunk.
Almost all GM products still use turn signal stalk cruise control. Can't be that surprising..
@@kewllexus yes VW and SAAB did that as well
When Doug said the owner had a diagram of the buttons at 15:06 I was expecting a laminated printout from the Maserati owners manual, not a clumsy hand-written jumble of notes on a loose-leaf sheet of notebook paper!
Every gm product in the 80's, 90's and 00's had the multi stock turn signal/cruise control/wipers. That's millions of cars. How can you say that cruise on a turn signal stalk is a quirk? Not at all! Same with the trunk release.... That used to be the standard for decades!
The trunk popper is in the glovebox probably for security. Instead of being able to lock the trunk and glovebox separately, you can do it with a single lock.
Every Volkswagen, Seat, Skoda etc have cruise control on the stalk. Nothing unusual and very easy to use...
Fun fact, Giugiaro later recycled the front end design for the 2005 Fiat Grande Punto. I think it still looks good today
The trunk button and fuel door button in the glove box is a holdover from a previous era. That's valet stuff. Lock the glovebox so a valet also can't steal your gas or whatever is in your trunk
Problem is that you have to leave the key with the valet guy and with the key he can open the trunk just pushing a button
@@HoolaaBaaloo In this car's era and earlier, you could often get a valet key that would open the doors and start the car but not unlock the glovebox because it wasn't fully cut. I had a Chrysler like that. Before this, cars usually had one key for the ignition and one for the doors/trunk/glove box. I guess it was presumed that the valet wouldn't lock your car.
@@HoolaaBaalooYou’ve never heard of a “valet key”? 🤦🏻♂️ It’s a key with no buttons and will only unlock and start the car. It won’t unlock the glove box or trunk.
@@NovaResource of course I’ve heard but doubt it that a italian car from that era has this feature, at that time you likely see that stuff on german cars
@@HoolaaBaaloo Most cars of this era had a valet key that you would give to the valet, not the main key
Dous is a type of guy that has millions in cars collection and a video production value of $50
Cool to see Doug reviewing outside of his dungeon even if it means his mic peaks more than my credit card
I know some will disagree with me here, but I'd rather have a Jag XKR (X150, the 2006-14 one) over this. It's more beautiful, has a much roomier and more usable trunk, the interior is very nice too (especially in its traditional Jag colors and trims), the car feels just as special and above all it's more reliable...the initial 4.2L is bulletproof and in its R version it pumps out close to 420 hp...quite a quick car!
Overall the XKR just makes more sense.
21:54 - 6 years later and the Ghibli is still not safe from Doug's wrath 😂
I’ll give you $600. Take it or leave it.
The quirks of Italian cars never cease to amaze me. I had a FIAT 500 Abarth when they first hit the states and the only way to unlock the trunk if the car was running was to get inside and close door and open and close the door open handle there was no trunk open button very fustrating.😂
Trunk release is outside... on the trunk.
@@jimbo5728 Yes but if you’re inside the car with it started there’s no way to open it from the inside there’s no button.
My dad traded his 7 series for his friends Cambio Corsa F1 for a single day on my 16th birthday and let me drive. It was a Capristo exhaust and sounded incredible.
I would definitely buy my own now with a manual or manual conversion.
The cambiocorsa is fine, especially with a formula dynamics DBW. Test drive it before insisting on a manual.
I test drove a maserati 4200 GT manual before getting my Maserati 4200 Gransport (cambiocorsa). I love manuals, but found the manual linkage in this car relatively unengaging and the manual didn't feel like it suited the pace of the vehicle (kept above 5000 rpm this thing moves through the gears FAST)
More importantly, the gransport version was a nicer version with a lot of styling and other improvements, and well worth it over the base 4200/Coupe.
I would have loved a gransport manual, but alas, none were ever made.
Test drive a coupe/4200 GT and a Gransport before you decide and I'll wager you likely will end up in a cambiocorsa gransport
Cruise control on the turn stalk was pretty standard in the 90s and early 2000s. Maybe not on exotic cars, but my 2002 S10 was the same.
Most all 80’s and 90’s GM cars are that way.
Has Doug realized all his recent videos have weird audio issues or is it just me noticing that ?
The trunk popper in the glove box and cruise control on a stock are normal features for 90's cars. I think Doug knows this. (Maybe it's a quirk for an early 2000's car).
The GranSport is the best-looking Maserati of all time IMO
No one doubts the style, power, cache of Maserati.... They scoff at the repair bills and the WELL known problems the car has.
What big problems? I have a gs and there are a few common issues but none have happened
at 50k miles yet…
Doug climb in the back seats!! You gotta bring back that tradition!! 😩
Doug: "if you have even the slightest level of sophistication about cars"
Also Doug: Calls the intake manifold the "top", calls the valve covers "the sides in red"
Yes, the mic is bad in this video but ever since Doug moved into this dungeon this distracting echo has appeared in each video taking place there. Come on, Doug, get a sound guy. (Also IMHO you should ditch the office chair as it looks a bit strange).
My favourite part of this video is Doug’s microphone protesting against his very existence
I love to see that you’ve come around on these a bit! I’m at 60k miles on mine. Other than a couple sensors, it’s been a great ownership experience. They really do have a special feel to them and there’s plenty of room for a kid or two in the backseat. You can knock 300 miles out in one of these and it’s actually comfortable!!
80s gm cars had trunk release button in glove box. Our 03 Tahoe also has also the cruise control controls on the turn signal stalk. So not unusual.
I was about 15 back when these came out and up in Connecticut I remember 3 or 4 I'd see driving around in green and silver. Very refined for the Italians and honestly still holds modern looks today.
Wait, this car has the transmission that Doug said is absolutely horrible and extremely unreliable?!?! He said this in a video from 3 years ago. Let me quote him. “ the most important thing is his car is the transmission. “ Cambio course automatic jerky, unreliable transmission.”
“ I keep saying that the automatic was a terrible transmission and let me explain, it was a terrible transmission. Indescribably clunky and awful. Every time it shifted it would lurch like a beginning driver that didn’t know how to drive a stick shift. just a terrible, horrible, driving experience. in addition, the transmission has become extremely unreliable and nobody wants to drive it and nobody wants to maintain it. The worst of the worst, in terms of transmissions.”
Those are Doug’s words! And he just breezes over this in this video, doesn’t mention anything about this, probably because he’s trying to sell this car on cars and bids.
Yes, I remember that!
Oh yeah!
I own a 2002 manual with 28k in miles, it’s my dream car glad to see you’ve come around to the 4200’s Doug!
The microphone scratching is going to make me stop watching. It’s unbelievable!
A few Italian cars of this era liked to be able to lock the trunk independently from the rest of the car. Therefore the trunk unlock button is inside the glovebox that it is also lockable… you could then use a valet key that only opened the driver’s door and the ignition!
My dad had a Lancia Delta with the exact same feature and for even folding down the back seats you needed a key! I think it was specifically thought for the Italian mafia, you could stick a body in the trunk and still take for dinner, the mechanic or cleaning the car without worrying about it😂
Johnny Sacks car 👀
Howd ginny like the car
Ginny finds it hard to get in because of her bad knee
Doug doesn't need a sound guy because Doug will still make mad money and people will still watch. We love you Doug, and your unrefined videos!!
My uncle had one and even shifting yourself, shift like crap unless you had it in sport mode the it would shift smoothly
Oh my God I saw one of these today on the freeway. Flew past me doing about 200 km/h. I wondered what it is, then Doug posted this video. Thanks doug.
i found a way to connect hdmi to the television port of the sat nav on my 98 mercedes CLK. i use it with samsung dex with a mini keyboard with touchpad. i've got google maps and everything. Works brilliantly. So the screens in 2000s cars aren't entirely useless
Would be a nice video for Doug to tag
Im gonna give Doug,s mike a Doug score,a very quirky featureless 1!!!
I think Doug has a desk job now, reviewing inside while sitting in an office chair 😊 that's the sign of a great channel. Keep up the awesome vids Doug I enjoy every single one.
You can tell Doug is on the younger side. GM had placed the trunk releases in the glovebox, and the CC controls on the turn signal stalk for years. (a'la my 1999 Lumina)
Doug views are declining. He tracks them religiously, as he’s mentioned in previous TST podcasts, and usually has a good understanding of why he is popular. If he reads comments still, I’ll tell him why I’ve stopped watching.
His first video that hooked me was his new Ghibli review where he tore it to shreds. I still remember the tube of toothpaste. He was objective. He said on podcasts that he doesn’t take manufacturer trips because then he believes it would not keep him objective. He was right, it kept him objective.
Now though he has cars and bids, which has reversed that mentality. He can’t be as objective or tear a car to pieces like the Ghibli, because he wants it to sell on his site. It shows in all of his new reviews. He doesn’t want to say much negative or realistic because then it’s a mark against someone’s car he is trying to sell. Even in this review he BARELY mentions maintainability of an early 2000s Maserati. Or the diagram of the infotainment switches? Old Doug would have ripped that to pieces.
I hope he gets back on track but I guess he doesn’t really need or want to.
That dainty reverse selector is also very delicate, easy to break, and impossible to get replacement parts for. I had to 3D print a replacement part for my friend's Coupe. Thankfully that part seems to be holding for now.
He knows so much about the cars he reviews, he really prepares. I wonder how much time he spends prepping / studying. So much better than when thre reviewer knows almost nothing about the car and is figuring it out as they review. This guy is really the best at this.
Man in all due respect for Doug experience, I don't know if a 22 years old Maserati is a bargain... its very expensive to service and super behind in safety & tech... I would recommend that person with 20k to get maybe something else with such a low budget he's clearly not rich enough to afford Maserati ownership
One of the nicest tan/beige interiors in a 2000s car. The contrast piping, two tone, and stitching does wonders
i love the extra crispy sound this vid, ty doug for the excellent sonic experience
Honestly such a tempting car.. Christopher Moltasanti special.
I own an 05 coupe manual. The later cars are better and if you find a manual, expect to pay 8-10k more , which is the cost of 2 clutch jobs let’s call it…and worth it. What’s a 6 speed Ferrari 360 worth? Its crazy these are so cheap.
The car has been pretty reliable, more reliable than my friends corvette C6 which has been a nightmare of a car. I’m not sure the late model Coupe deserves its bad rap. Drive it 5k a year, keep up with small items and it’s a wonderful, beautiful machine (and the interior of a C6 vs these? My coupe is solid, the C6 sounds like creaking plastic). Get one in manual while you can for cheap money…
Johnny Sac drove one on the Sopranos. I’ve liked them ever since.
Doug owns a lamborghini and a 20$ microphone. Do the world a favor and pick up that dji wireless mic. For God's sake I thought something was wrong with my speakers.
The Maserati coupe my Dad had said Pininfarina on the side. Inside it said leather by Armani. He also optioned the skyhook suspension package (Active Damping). The exhaust was upgaded to a full Tubi system. Later he purchased the Gran Sport model. Different clutch engagement program. Slower off the line. Red light race lost to a supercharged Nissan Frontier. That was the end of that in favor of a SL55 AMG which replaced it. Weird quirk about the trident on the front grill was purposely not centered.
Never seen or heard of this. any chance you have pics of it and/or further details?
@@ariston19762481 Probably have pictures somewhere but I doubt I could share it here in the comment section.
Doug you need to fix the mic issue it’s unwatchable with headphones
Plenty of cars at the time had trunk releases in the glove box. Also, cruise control was on stalks as well at the time.
My wife's 05 Buick has both.
Basically all GM cars from the 80’s and 90’s.
I have a friend who has one and he's rather afraid to drive it because he's afraid something will break and cost him a ton. And he owns a foreign car repair shop. But I've ridden in it, it's gorgeous and fast, and it tempts me.
Wow..Jaeger's cockpit..so amazing.. so aesthetic
The trunk button can be locked up in the glovebox. The mirror controls would ruin the beautiful door panels ❤
Having owned one of these, I can confirm that they are amazing to drive. The engine, transmission and suspension are impressive. The interior is gorgeous. The driving experience is fantastic. Cons and why they are so cheap? A/c stopped working, turned out to be the switch on the dash which was 1k from the dealer. I instead took it apart and discovered it was a cheap plastic shaft behind the knob, which I fixed with jb weld. That was all that was wrong. As you work on it, you find cheap, thin plastic all over the car. The glove box will fall off in your hand, again because the hinge is thin plastic. Speaker covers are thin plastic and so forth. The transmission went out. Turns out again, the trans was fine but a module on the trans went out and that one part was 10 grand. I sold the car. It's wonderful to drive and painful to own.
Doug you've been doing this for how long and you still haven't learned how to tape down a lav wire?
While I don’t disapprove of Doug reviewing cars in cars and bids, I don’t think he should be talking about pricing on a car he is trying to sell and make money on. I don’t know if cars that he reviews do better in auction but it seems like it would.
Who the hell gave Doug a chair. He has really lost sight of what made his channel great. Next thing we know he will be doing a review while wearing long pants.
A lot of cars have the trunk release inside the glove box or center console. And I don't know what Doug is talking about about with the cruise on the turn signal... US automakers did it for decades.
Now THIS is a classic Doug review
When Maserati wasn't just a status symbol for people without taste or class.I love how folks still complain about the cambio-corsa.Literally don't like to do any work at all to go fast,only want to hold a steering wheel and press buttons
I disagree that it's a bargain. It's not exactly a bargain if you're paying $20,000 for a car that needs $20,000 in repairs every year.
What went wrong with yours that needed $20,000 repairs every year?
Not sure what’s up with your mic lately. And also my 2013 mustang has the same looking parking sensors lol
Doug I’m European born and trust me many Renault, Peugeot and Citroen has the cruise control on a specific “satellite” behind the steering wheels.
Believe or not some recent Renault still have a similar one.
If I may this system is not that complicated, there is certainly a learning curve but afterwards it’s pretty practical 😅you can grip the steering wheel very securely and make the changes 😊
To be fair, all GM vehicles from the 70s thru the 90's, utilized the turn signal stalk for cruise control. And some Ford models in the 80s used the turn signal stalk as the horn (I'm looking at you Crown Victoria)!!
Hi Tower81@@Tower81year we had the same kind of horn location in many (almost all) 70's 80's and some 90's European cars. When I had the chance to drive one always looking for the horn ahah
Doug make video on the new Macan Turbo
Doug the type of guy that uses a scratchy microphone