I feel bad for Rebecca grey heart and of course for the child’s family. It has to be horrible living with the fact that you took a life. I can’t imagine I could live with myself What an awful tragedy. Gosh it happened to brandy too. So sad
No not at all,they caused the whole thing its there fault. Think b4 you do/say things. I could understand Sinade O' Conner, she was just standing up for wat she believed in. But she doesn't get a pass. At least not for me. You're a celebrity you gotta watch what you say/do..!! Just cuz you're a A-list celebrity or whatever doesn't mean you can always get away with certain stuff & doing certain things. Their are consequences..!!
Politics is very cutthroat, where opponents will look for the slightest miscue on their competition in attempts to bring them down. In the case with Dean, his scream came across as being crass and beneath the decorum of what a presidential candidate is suppose to be. The opponents ganged-up on Dean to push him out of the presidential race, as it removed a competitor for the political party's nomination.
Halle Berry had a hit and run left a woman for dead in the street, (she survived thanks to bystanders) Halle had to pay $13,500 fine and was on probation for 3 years. Didn’t affect her career.
Exactly;! I'm not saying Smith was right, but in perspective, it wasn't that bad. Perhaps there" academy" COULD set forth a return to pre trump standards, of people not using THIS forum for insult comedy. D on Rickles aside, most insults are just that. Insults.
I really never understood why Showgirls wrecked Berkley's career. She was actually not that bad. Her dancing was really good. One bad movie should not ruin an actor's career. I think there was more going on there. I mean it is like not being able to renew your license because of a parking ticket.
Well things were a little different back then. When the movie came out this was her first big role after saved by the bell. If you watch saved by the bell you can see what I mean about things being a bit different. Saved by the bell was a “wholesome” show and when showgirls came out it was basically soft core. We didn’t have the internet back then. So she was immediately blacklisted and looked down upon. I can remember thinking she was dirty after that and I never even saw the movie.
LOL thats a total myth. Its called a "correlation and not causation". She is just a shitty actor and probably difficult to work with or something. Maybe she had a kid just after, could be anything. It def wasnt because of that movie, it didn't hurt any of the other actors careers in that movie. Too me that was always just like an urban legend or whatever we used to say back in the day when it came out.
The thing you must never forget about the Ray Rice incident… NFL players get away with domestic abuse all the time. The only reason his career ended was because it was all captured on video and we saw how truly awful it was. If not for the elevator video, you would’ve seen him back by next season
6% of reported rape cases are charged. 6%. I do not know one woman the hasn't fielded some type of UNWANTED sexual touch. NOT ONE WOMAN. I'm 49 years old. That means your friends, nephews, dad, uncles, business owners.... someone is doing the unwanted touch. Maybe let the 4 billion women on the planet safely tell the truth about the other 3.9 billion men and get some real statistics.
The “backlash” over Howard Dean’s scream is completely absurd. It reminds me of the hilariously dramatic backlash Obama got because a soldier was holding an umbrella over him in the rain. People will pick apart anything they can to try and make that person seem “unfit” and it really just makes me like that person even more.
I had the pleasure of meeting Elizabeth Berkley while on vacation a few weeks ago in Laguna Beach and I've got to say she and her husband are some of the nicest people I have ever met. It's horrible that Hollywood treated her the way they did over a movie that was not that bad yet Will Smith assaults someone on television and gets a standing ovation. Wth...
@@msnewsenior No what is ridiculous is seemingly justifying violence by someone just because they are a "star" with a long track record is what is ridiculous!
The Howard Dean incident is incredibly stupid. People are THAT picky and stupid as to where they felt he should be disqualified because he shouted, "YAAAAAAAAAAAAAH?" Ridiculous!
@@ssunfish You know you're a Trumptard when you pass on a perfect opportunity to reference the most dishonest, deranged, and twice-impeached president and instead choose an old guy whose biggest downfall is an occasional word gaffe. Judy's right, by the way. Dean getting kicked to the curb over a scream only highlights the fickle and unreasonable nature of American political popularity.
Look at the gold-plated trash they offer us as candidates these days. Jeeez - it went from bad to worse to much worse. MTG, Gym Jordan, Gaetz, Gommert, Sinema and Boebert, etc are 100000000x more ridiculous. Truly scraping the bottom of the barrel.
Simon Cowell comments aren't bad, it's his business. But with Natalia Kills and Willy Moon, just awful. Kills: "As an artist who respects artists' integrity and intellectual property I am disgusted at how much you have copied my husband. From the hair, to the suit, do you not have any value or respect for originality? You're a laughing stock. It's cheesy, it's disgusting. I personally found it absolutely artistically atrocious. I am embarrassed to be sitting here in your presence, even having to dignify you with an answer of my opinion." Copied her husband, what a suit, tie, shirt and gelled back hair. A look that has been done before, I'm thinking like with The Rat Pack. Before the X-Factor, was anyone really aware of them?
It was a bit of a joke when Kills and Moon were appointed to the show as judges. No one here in NZ knew who they were apart from a small sample of teenage girls. They slipped into obscurity just as quickly as they emerged from it, although with alot more negativity. It was by far the nastiest behaviour I had ever seen on music reality TV.
I couldn’t believe that they were claiming that as his look like seriously?? That’s been a popular like classic look from before he was even doing it! What other popular and classic fashion trends do they think are “their look”. And even if he did have some original look that he was copying wouldn’t u see that as flattering and shit? Like aw this kid is a fan and looks up to me, but no they compared him to some psycho like what was it wanting to wear his face or something crazy like that. That poor kid was only like 17 or 19 and said that it really effected him mentally I mean he was bullied & humiliated in front of a whole crowd and on tv. I don’t think he knew people were on his side right away until the public backlash, I mean if u watch it u hear people booing but like if I was him I would’ve thought they were agreeing with them and were booing me. Thankfully he did see people disagreed and were angry with them and were on his side but it’s still a lot to handle especially at such a young age.
I can't help but feel they were trying to gain popularity by being a meaner "Simon Cowell" and you're right, Simon can be brutal, but it's honest critique, whereas NK and WM we're just being mean for brutality sake and it backfired. Idiots.
Still unmarked children's grave being found in Catholic run residential schools in Canada. Weak, watery apologies from the Pope but no real accountability. And money supposed to go the indigenenous communities harmed by this cultural genocide gets diverted to build a new cathedral. O'Conner had it right - fuck the Catholic hierarchy and their sanctimonious, money grubbing, authoritative child abusing ways. They stand for abuse of women and children as they stood for Mussolini and Hitler, all the while holding out the collection plate.
Key difference was Demi Moore was already an established star. In fact the highest paid actress at that time. Showgirls was a make or break role for Elizabeth who was just trying to go main stream.
@@andreabonanno4205 I agree, she took a role that was an 180° from her previous role and people hated it and hated her for doing it.her acting wasn't bad.
He was in my cousin's film, "To Dust" 2018 and he has a picture with him and my uncle. He said he was extremely polite, very professional and had a good sense of humor, but. he got old. He said Ron Perlman was quite a character but nice.
Over in Europe I believe. And yet he didn't spend a day in jail and was back in the States as if nothing ever happened. Oh, he gets to sleep with Sarah-Jessica Parker too.
Sinead was absolutely right - but way ahead of her time as far as people being aware of how sick the church actually was/is in sexual abuse of children. Good job Sinead.
@@Jeff-jg7jh No, it'd been somewhat known but constantly covered up and those who abused were simply relocated instead of held accountable while the pope knew. There was also the whole thing with Catholics turning a shoulder to the whole thing, and some blaming the children as well.
How can people not know? They're so stupid. They don't want to know. Nothing wrong with what Sinead did at all. I'm tired of all this politically correct bullshit, while these sociopaths destroy our world and lives. From the queen's pedophile son who doesn't have to face justice to the Klaus Scwhabs
Let's be real - no one had a clue who Natalia kills or Willie moon were, every kiwi was like "who TF are these 2 idiots?" They were, and still are, nobody's.
To be fair, she didn't give any context to her "protest". It would have been different if she had made it clear she was speaking out against child sexual abuse and not just a general hatred of the pope.
Oh please. Let's stop pretending whistleblowers aren't blackballed or killed. If she literally shed light on victims & named more names, she would have been killed, courtesy of the RCC. Real shit. & just like now, none of mfs would have done anything about it.
Justice for Sinead though. She spoke out about something that wasn't even fully looked into for like a decade later. She used her platform to bring something that has been affecting the young and had been covered up for so long to the front lines and was disgraced for it.
I agree, she was treated unfairly. After all this time it has come to light that she was right. The higher-ups at the Catholic Church or corrupt and evil.
So, Ray Rice punched his fiance and dragged her unconscious body like a bag of potatoes and she married him instead of running away? What is wrong with her?
Abused spouse syndrome, apparently. It's so sad, but there is a specific type of person who thinks that abuse is acceptable. I'm guessing she grew up in a violent household and probably thinks that kind of evil behavior is "normal."
Heaven forbid that a presidential candidate who sounds irrational and out of control could ever be elected to the office! A Democrat who favors universal health insurance is declared unfit for the job over a few seconds of sounding un-presidential, while one who sounds that way all the time, but favors huge tax cuts for the rich is forgiven.
@@brianarbenz1329 Ugh......ok. None of that is relevant to my statement. That scream will always be hilarious to me because of the spoofs, could care less about the "politics" behind it
@Matt Stevenson NO, how about the scene where one of the showgirls gets brutally raped, stumbles to her feet,with blood gushing out of from her vagina dripping profusely down her leg ,then she passes out and dies? Or when the star herself kicks a dancer down the stairs?. She trips, falls, dies and most of the other showgirl dancers acted like nothing happened. Maybe sick asses like you like misogyny and violence, I dont. And yet people like you have the nerve to complain about gore sites, when entertaininment like ShowGirls movie is supposed to be "normal". At least gore sites show real life and not some psycho fantasy. The movie was offensive because most people don't think of Showgirls in that manner. They have the idea they have at least a shred of wholesomeness and that their lives are conductedin a sumilar fashion. That movie was just gross and too affronting to sensitivities
Sinead O'Connors career only 'ended' in America. She's still a legend in the Uk and europe and always has been. She's released some great albums and had loads of success covering 3 decades.
no - sinead o'connor was finished in britain by this and other erratic behaviour by her (not wanting the usa anthem to be played - at her usa concerts) - she's basically a 1 hit and 1 album wonder in britain - look at the chart positions of her singles and albums and see.
@@mrgobrien I’m totally with her on not wanting the anthem played. I am also very aware most Americans are overly patriotic and believe there’s a man in the sky watching over them. So can understand why they would reject her and why she would reject them. Unfortunately in that era if you didn’t break America you were classed as a failure. The single and album you mention are litterally up there with her worst worst work ironically. ‘Irony’ something else Americans don’t understand.
@@mrgobrien you’ve only got to look at the top of the charts from any week over the last 30-40 years that Number 1’s don’t mean quality. It means the persons record label ploughed a lot of money into getting it there.
Yeah, I always thought that was really messed up. She just wanted to break out of the "goody two shoes" roles she was always cast in after Saved by the Bell. Same as tons of other child stars. Not really fair
He said it himself in that later interview - he wasn't ready for the national stage. He had trouble connecting with people who had different viewpoints than those common in Vermont. He wasn't the first candidate to fade quickly after early primary success, and it's happened since then. He didn't spoil his career in an instant. The scream was just a sound byte that got played over and over.
@@mikecarr4178 exactly! If he couldn't handle the media teasing him for a funny moment how was he going to handle the kind of public criticism the president is subject to?
About Milly Vanilly, I was told their self-released album was actually good. Because of the reputation they had, no one wanted to give them another chance. Sad really
Brandy is still thriving. She starred in The Game, a movie with Tyler Perry, started in The Star on fox, also stars in ABC Queens. Went on multiple world tours. Released 2 more albums. Disney re-released Cinderella. She sang Disney new theme song, Starting Now. She’s about to start in a new Christmas Movie. Oh she also just sang with Mariah Carey. So yeah, i think she’s doing just fine:
I know absolutely nothing about his politics, but it’s crazy how something as innocent as a scream can end his dreams of taking the WH lol Considering all the corruption & sketchy behavior that seems to be hand in hand with politics, it’s wild that a gaffe like that could derail everything
Mel Grieg, the DJ who impersonated the Queen, tried to make herself out as some sort of victim but she was an adult making adult decisions. The problem with pranks is that they can have bad consequences. It was a disgrace that so many people in the media supported her. That nurse was worried about losing her job.
I’m not British so I can’t fully grasp the gravity of impersonating the Queen, but I don’t think I’d ever trust this Grieg person to host a pie eating contest, let alone another show.
I think that it was a very stupid and thoughtless thing to do, I hate pranks for all the reasons you listed, especially ones meant for content. You just don't know how people will respond. I don't think there's anyway anyone could have predicted somebody would commit suicide over that though. I don't know anything else about how the DJ handled it, so I won't speak on that.
@@deathbloom27 That's theproblem though, one never knows how a prank can backfire, many years ago I heard of one where a man was told his wife left him and he too committed suicide.
Mel Grieg's victim attitude makes me sick to my stomach. Her childish prank resulted in the nurse committing suicide, leaving two children motherless. I've always hated radio pranks.
The same thing happened to Joanne D'Arc, what did you expect? If she was a man, I bet she would have been forgiven. It's sad that ppl marginalised outspoken public figures due to fighting for causes or raising awareness to child ab..., especially in the middle of the Catholic church
No matter what your line of work is, you cannot find yourself irreplaceable, you gotta know that certainly there are people better than you in your line of work, one time you got put aside, they take over your place and nobody else is gonna miss you there.
WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MIND HATES “SHOWGIRLS???!” That movie is goddam gold! The pool sex seizure w/Kyle MacLachlan?? The dance numbers?? It’s beautiful cheese at its best & Liz Berkeley looks 🔥! I love it!
Music artists have a shelf life that averages 4 to 5 years, so I dont think Brandy's career slide had much to do with the accident. Halle Berry and Vince Neil had careers after accidents that killed people, and Director John Landis went on to have several high profile hit movies after blatantly ignoring film safety laws, resulting in the decaptlitation of two kids and actor, Vic Morrow on a movie set. Brandy's gig was just over because music tastes were changing, and the quality of her songs fell, quite frankly.
What Jimmy “The Greek” said about black athletes being superior athletically due to slavery is right too! I’m black and a former pro athletes. And this is what I’ve always said. To break it down: back in the day they literally would put the biggest strongest slaves together to mate, in order to create best selling slaves. It’s literally like breeding the best horses over time and their bloodline eventually produces “prize” horses. HOW is this a difficult concept to grasp?
Proud of u, Mitchell for seeing what it was. What he said about genetic combining was not necessarily racism. It's just what was done at that time... now, slavery, WAS racism. It's really kinda cool that descendants of that era " forced combining" are reeping rewards of outstanding strength and abilities. What the devil meant for evil the Lord brings around for good.
I'll say this about Sinead O'Connor, I freaking love her voice and I've never stopped being a fan. The fight against oppression/abuse/cruelty and bringing it to the forefront has to start somewhere with someone's voice. I don't know many people who would have the cajones to do that. Ok yeah the scream was a little weird and awkward, but he was running for office not trying out for cheerleading. And I'll admit it I like Showgirls in a weird way, don't really know why I do, but I do.
*You ToTALLY left out the ENTIRE reason* Simpson was so harshly criticized..literally like a week before the slip up, Simpson had super harsh words of condemnation for any singers that lip synced, EVER..then low and behold she's busted for attempting to lip sync on SNL.. *Ashley Simpson:* but, but "reasons" 😂
Jimmy the Greek was NOT a sportscaster, and he did NOT start the CBS pregame football show. He was basically on air talent as an odds maker for scores. This is what I don't like about UA-cam, ANYONE can upload ANYTHING without FACTS or merit.
Jimmy the Greek, ...statement of facts got him labeled a racist! He never once disparaged blacks, and had many lifelong black friends. The media of course painted him like he said "I h@te black people". He merely stated facts!
My uncle dated Elizabeth after she did Showgirls. She wanted to do it because she was originally a dancer and acting came afterwards. She saw it as a way to get to open her career to including dance too. Her career wasn't over after Showgirls. She did other movies and TV shows. She has a wealthy background so she wasn't doing it for the money. She is the sweetest and most gentle soul. She was super kind to everyone no matter what their social status was. I greatly enjoyed the time I got to spend with her. She's a nicer person than my uncle, lol
It would be cool if we all could agree on a maximum 'social media sentence' instead of rehashing people's single mistakes over and over again, sometimes decades after. We're all people, we all make mistakes and most of us learn and grow from it. None of us would like it if people kept dragging our names through the mud over and over again because of one incident and being defined by it (to me it's different if it's a pattern or if someone stands by his or her choice years after).
Very well put and very true. Were human we make mistakes...we all have. Now if you dont learn from your mistakes and keep going them, then that's a different story
I agree for the most part,however the milli vanilli thing, they didn't just lip sync a song bc throat problems, they FAKED their whole career! so im glad they were busted an had to give back the grammy they never should of had, a scam
@@brandy_lish It seems you're missing the point: there's a difference between being busted and having to hear about it decades later while you have long moved on (or even dead, in Rob Pilatus' case). Btw: at first they weren't aware they were faking anything and by the time they found out there was no going back, it's interesting to read the actual background story.
@@21centuryg Child predators yes, without a doubt. But the other 2... A lot of people, including myself, would be considered racist when looking at what they said two decades ago, back in the days when for example racist jokes were considered 'normal'. Since then I've learned a lot and now actively advocate diversity and inclusion. So I shouldn't get a second chance? And how about spouse beaters that got years of therapy and anger management and haven't hurt anyone in over a decade, or were beaters when drunk and quit drinking, or now help other abusers to do better? Life isn't black and white.
I don’t know when you got your facts , but like last week Monique and the director literally cried and he said sorry for blackballing her and she is due for multiple movies on Netflix !! So yeah she is finally free from that!! GO MONIQUE GO!!
@@avalonsignoraalmas6150 she went on a tirad about dl hugley at a show where she was his opening act and it went down hill from there. Look it up. She’s apparently trying to cancel herself. I hope she does better because she is hella funny!
Yo the X factor judges were too savage. W.t.f. 🤣😂 That poor guy did NOT deserve or need all that to be said to him, it was like they chose one person to unleash a bunch of mean , negative, hurtful comments on . Slowwww down nah
I really liked Elizabeth Berkley in Show Girls. Didnt think I would like it but I did. She was good in CSI too. Shes a great actress. Not a big fan of Folly Wood. But along with Brook Shields growing up acting in that atmosphere both seem like genuinely nice people.
Jerry Lee Lewis killed one of his wives at his home. He had the maid wash her and redress her and clean up the crime scene. The local police kept the state's crime team away until all was cleaned. However, liminal test showed blood on the walls, the piano and floor. He got away with it.
It’s so sad that one moment of impatience while driving has changed the lives of so many forever. Also sad: you can make a weird noise when you’re happy and lose your career.
Unpopular Comment Warning: I don't think Showgirls single-handedly destroyed Berkeley's career. The show actually enjoys cult status today. She's a bit of an over-actor, no chill in any role she plays.
Actually most of the things Monique claimed that happened was proven to be true. There's a voice recording from Tyler Perry stating that he was wrong and wanted to meet with her. He changed his mind later and demanded a apology from her.
Her husband actually did try to pimp the producers though. He would have Monique stop doing promo to extort them for more money. Yeah, he’s been pimperish, admittedly and I wouldn’t have worked with her ass either. Still wouldn’t.
Monique Is Talent! Girl, lose the "daddy" confirmation code and you will stand up strong once again in your own personality humor likeability cleverness sense and sensibility. We miss Your Presense Monique ❤ !!
What Jimmy “The Greek” said about black athletes being superior athletically due to slavery is right too! I’m black and a former pro athletes. And this is what I’ve always said. To break it down: back in the day they literally would put the biggest strongest slaves together to mate, in order to create best selling slaves. It’s literally like breeding the best horses over time and their bloodline eventually produces “prize” horses. HOW is this a difficult concept to grasp?
@@MitchellBahamas good theory but BS. Africans are better at any sport which requires body strength, it’s something to do with the muscle tone, not all Africans were slaves but they still have better results in Athletics. It’s the same reason why black athletes struggle in sports like swimming. It’s DNA.
@@cloverite is that why Africa wins NO GOLD MEDALS and Black Americans and Caribbean blacks (where slavery started) DOMINATE? what are you talking about? Lol. Have you ever seen the USA basketball team play against ANY African team!?😂😂🤦🏽♂️
Gayhart one I have no sympathy for her. That fact she went around people waiting for children to cross the street, yet she was too entitled to wait and crossed into the opposite lane and hit the child.
EXACTLY!! GOOD ON YOU SINEAD O'CONNOR!! I was just a little kid hearing that big hit on the radio back then but had no idea of that incident that derailed her career so early on. That took a lot of guts to bring that up in those days, especially in such a way. And Ashley Simpson, I was never a fan but still couldn't understand why that silly incident became the defining moment of her career to where she just disappeared. I can't understand it. I always felt kinda bad for her.
I remember Ashley Simpson singing at the Orange Bowl. It was terrible... her voice sounded like crap and it seemed like she didn't really care. I still remember the crowd (live on air) chanting... You Suck, You Suck, You F*king Suck!
@Matt Stevenson Why didn't she just lip-sync to the track they were playing, instead of acting like an idiot? The mussic industry has become such a joke
What's crazier is how much worse it's gotten. In the '50s you had to marry a 13-year-old. Now you just make a joke or say something you normally say after a few drinks and your career is over. Strange as it sounds, the 1950s was more tolerant than the 2020s.
Believe me , Elizabeth Burkley did just fine as a major character on csi Miami after showgirls as Horatio Caine:s ex wife and his baby mama. She had a huge recurring role. Nikki just never saw csi Miami once or she would know this.
Of all things, trying to lip sync on SNL and then blaming your band for it is high up there on the list of dumb things to do. Just a complete lack of effort for such a major opportunity. Totally deserved outcome.
To be honest. Brandi's career was over when she lied about being married to the father of her kid because she didn't want people to know she had a child out of wedlock. The accident was the last draw.
I was thinking the same thing. She got a lot of bad press during that and the car crash. Also I feel like her first two albums I in the 2000s was a lot slower in terms of RnB music. The other had a lot of uptempo stuff during that time.
I think those involved in the automobile accident deaths would sound a lot more shallow IF THEY DID NOT continue to be affected by the knowledge that they (either by negligent mistake or unavoidable circumstance) caused another's death. Yeah--if it were me, I'd never get over it, never forget it, probably never forgive myself, and would need lots of therapy just to go on afterwards. Unfortunately--accidents do happen, people do die, make poor choices. I can't hold a young woman's faulty (and yes deadly) driving decision in quite the same 'unforgivable' light as something like Sandy Hook, though. These women didn't get in their cars intending to do violence.
Showgirls is a great movie. The storyline was entertaining and the actors weren't cheesy so why did the movie get a bad reputation all those years ago? Why didn't help boost her career? It showcased that she could do more then teen acting on a teen drama. Plus her dancing and gymnastics were so good.
Showgirls.was considered bad because it is rated NC-17. overall it is not a bad movie, actually better than Saturday Night Fever. NC-17 and PG-13 ratings are both death sentences. A great recent example is Morbius. It is actually a great Vampire Film. And it offers a modern feel of early 1950's comic books. But it does not fit with the MARVEL label.
Showgirls was too shocking for audiences at the time, very scandalous, and the way it was marketed didn’t help (gratuitous nudity, homosexuality, drugs and alcohol, etc.). It was simply ahead of its time. Luckily times change, and now it’s considered a cult classic.
I'm not a John Mayer fan, but he did form the band "Dead & Company" with the surviving members of the Grateful Dead. They are still active and on tour. He's like the lead singer. ???
I was just thinking that. She really had the audacity to say that it’s something SHE never got over it and SHE has to get therapy and blah blah blah smh
Can you even imagine that a presidential candidate didn’t win because of a scream in a speech? I miss those days. How depraved United States has devolved into.
The funny thing about the Ashlee Simpson incident is that MOST and I mean MOST major musicians use backing tracks when performing live. It eases strain on the vocal chords and they have more freedom to move about the stage. It's absolutely ridiculous. On top of that, a lot of performances on talk shows are lip synced because of the lack of space for the equipment required for a live performance.
The band tried to save her even. They started playing for her to sing along with as soon as SNL cut the wrong backing track they had accidentally played. If she had just gone along with it and sang live, it wouldn't have been nearly as big an incident. By running off stage like she did, she made it seem like all she had been doing was lip synching and she was a complete fraud. That's why people latched onto it so much.
@@9melissal The band tried to save her sorry behind but she threw them under the bus and said they started playing the wrong track. I think that's what really upset people. She first tried to blame innocent people and only came up with her acid reflux story when she realized she had to take responsibility.
Nightmare on Elm Street IV features the Sinead O’Connor song “I Want Your Hands On Me.” I had a couple cassettes by her. She has some good music out there. Her most famous song wasn’t her best song.
The Mtv interview accidentally blew the roof off of the Milli Vanilla scheme before it went public. They went to the studio and the back-up singer's were singing song's live. M.V. knew they made a big mistake and quickly rushed out of the interview.
I will never ever forget Ashley Simpson jigging herself off the SNL stage 😂 and as a musician and singer myself, using the excuse like acid reflux just doesn't fly honey LMAO! Granted it yes it may be uncomfortable if you end up getting an episode during a performance where you have to sing but I never had it screw up my concerts or my recitals or whatever I might have been doing. I used to get acid reflux when I was nervous before a performance so her using this as an excuse as to why she lip synced and couldn't do her performance is a pathetic excuse.
Do you feel any of these stars were treated unfairly over what happened?
The Greek was done wrong. Everything he said was true. Just the truth.
I feel bad for Rebecca grey heart and of course for the child’s family. It has to be horrible living with the fact that you took a life. I can’t imagine I could live with myself What an awful tragedy. Gosh it happened to brandy too. So sad
Noooop
Nope.
No not at all,they caused the whole thing its there fault. Think b4 you do/say things. I could understand Sinade O' Conner, she was just standing up for wat she believed in. But she doesn't get a pass. At least not for me. You're a celebrity you gotta watch what you say/do..!! Just cuz you're a A-list celebrity or whatever doesn't mean you can always get away with certain stuff & doing certain things. Their are consequences..!!
I never could understand the big deal about Howard Dean’s scream.
That wasn't even a big deal! Wow. Americans are silly.
Agree. What did he do? Have a good time? Not behave like a robot?
Must have been more to it than that.
Politics is very cutthroat, where opponents will look for the slightest miscue on their competition in attempts to bring them down. In the case with Dean, his scream came across as being crass and beneath the decorum of what a presidential candidate is suppose to be. The opponents ganged-up on Dean to push him out of the presidential race, as it removed a competitor for the political party's nomination.
You can't have someone in politics acting like a screaming lunatic. From Ms. Harper Stacey.
Halle Berry had a hit and run left a woman for dead in the street, (she survived thanks to bystanders) Halle had to pay $13,500 fine and was on probation for 3 years. Didn’t affect her career.
Unforgivable!
She won an Oscar a year later
She probably slept with Harvey Weinstein
Exactly;! I'm not saying Smith was right, but in perspective, it wasn't that bad. Perhaps there" academy" COULD set forth a return to pre trump standards, of people not using THIS forum for insult comedy. D on Rickles aside, most insults are just that. Insults.
she also filed for child support and lost. the once most beautiful woman in the world is a lonely cat collector just like jada is about to be
You can add Amber Heard to the list.
Ugh! You beat me to the punch by 1 day.
*Amber Turd (💩)* (allegedly) *doesn't like this comment.* (😠)
Amber Heard is a list and category all of her own doing
@@paulleckner9148 it was a hit, not a punch
Well, it took her years, not seconds...
I really never understood why Showgirls wrecked Berkley's career. She was actually not that bad. Her dancing was really good. One bad movie should not ruin an actor's career. I think there was more going on there. I mean it is like not being able to renew your license because of a parking ticket.
Quite simply, everyone placed the blame on her instead of the movie itself!
Well things were a little different back then. When the movie came out this was her first big role after saved by the bell. If you watch saved by the bell you can see what I mean about things being a bit different. Saved by the bell was a “wholesome” show and when showgirls came out it was basically soft core. We didn’t have the internet back then. So she was immediately blacklisted and looked down upon. I can remember thinking she was dirty after that and I never even saw the movie.
well she was not that famous when she got the role. it was suppose to make her a big star and that never happened.
She's just a really bad actor. That's why her career never took off.
LOL thats a total myth. Its called a "correlation and not causation". She is just a shitty actor and probably difficult to work with or something. Maybe she had a kid just after, could be anything. It def wasnt because of that movie, it didn't hurt any of the other actors careers in that movie. Too me that was always just like an urban legend or whatever we used to say back in the day when it came out.
The thing you must never forget about the Ray Rice incident… NFL players get away with domestic abuse all the time. The only reason his career ended was because it was all captured on video and we saw how truly awful it was. If not for the elevator video, you would’ve seen him back by next season
6% of reported rape cases are charged. 6%. I do not know one woman the hasn't fielded some type of UNWANTED sexual touch. NOT ONE WOMAN. I'm 49 years old. That means your friends, nephews, dad, uncles, business owners.... someone is doing the unwanted touch. Maybe let the 4 billion women on the planet safely tell the truth about the other 3.9 billion men and get some real statistics.
I didn't know a NFL player killed someone and was still allowed to play.
@Matt Stevenson Back up what? Rice was originally suspended until the heat was on and they had to do more.
Very true. You’re absolutely right.
@Matt Stevenson um. They do. It’s easy to check DV arrest records year-in, year-out.
Sinead O’Connor at least was totally correct
True!
I just remember them tearing her and Madonna down so bad lol.
The “backlash” over Howard Dean’s scream is completely absurd. It reminds me of the hilariously dramatic backlash Obama got because a soldier was holding an umbrella over him in the rain. People will pick apart anything they can to try and make that person seem “unfit” and it really just makes me like that person even more.
Or how about the tan suit😂😂😂?
I had the pleasure of meeting Elizabeth Berkley while on vacation a few weeks ago in Laguna Beach and I've got to say she and her husband are some of the nicest people I have ever met. It's horrible that Hollywood treated her the way they did over a movie that was not that bad yet Will Smith assaults someone on television and gets a standing ovation. Wth...
He got an standing ovation for winning an award for best actor for his performance in King Richard 🔥💯
The movie is iconic to me , I think it’s fantastic and her performance was lit , so cool to hear she’s a cool gal , I always wanted to hang with her
I worked with her when she did a guest spot on a show I was on and she's an absolute sweetheart. I loved her!
Comparing a star with a 30 year career in Hollywood to someone who was looking to pick a starring role and picked the wrong one is ridiculous
@@msnewsenior No what is ridiculous is seemingly justifying violence by someone just because they are a "star" with a long track record is what is ridiculous!
The Howard Dean incident is incredibly stupid. People are THAT picky and stupid as to where they felt he should be disqualified because he shouted, "YAAAAAAAAAAAAAH?" Ridiculous!
But we get Bi-dum??? C'MON!!!!
It was entirely STAGED, like every bit of EVERY ELECTION!
@@ssunfish You know you're a Trumptard when you pass on a perfect opportunity to reference the most dishonest, deranged, and twice-impeached president and instead choose an old guy whose biggest downfall is an occasional word gaffe.
Judy's right, by the way. Dean getting kicked to the curb over a scream only highlights the fickle and unreasonable nature of American political popularity.
Look at the gold-plated trash they offer us as candidates these days. Jeeez - it went from bad to worse to much worse.
MTG, Gym Jordan, Gaetz, Gommert, Sinema and Boebert, etc are 100000000x more ridiculous. Truly scraping the bottom of the barrel.
@@ssunfish Anyone who supports donald dump after the insurrection on December 6th is not to be taken seriously.
Simon Cowell comments aren't bad, it's his business. But with Natalia Kills and Willy Moon, just awful.
Kills: "As an artist who respects artists' integrity and intellectual property I am disgusted at how much you have copied my husband. From the hair, to the suit, do you not have any value or respect for originality? You're a laughing stock. It's cheesy, it's disgusting. I personally found it absolutely artistically atrocious. I am embarrassed to be sitting here in your presence, even having to dignify you with an answer of my opinion."
Copied her husband, what a suit, tie, shirt and gelled back hair. A look that has been done before, I'm thinking like with The Rat Pack.
Before the X-Factor, was anyone really aware of them?
It was a bit of a joke when Kills and Moon were appointed to the show as judges. No one here in NZ knew who they were apart from a small sample of teenage girls.
They slipped into obscurity just as quickly as they emerged from it, although with alot more negativity.
It was by far the nastiest behaviour I had ever seen on music reality TV.
I couldn’t believe that they were claiming that as his look like seriously?? That’s been a popular like classic look from before he was even doing it! What other popular and classic fashion trends do they think are “their look”. And even if he did have some original look that he was copying wouldn’t u see that as flattering and shit? Like aw this kid is a fan and looks up to me, but no they compared him to some psycho like what was it wanting to wear his face or something crazy like that.
That poor kid was only like 17 or 19 and said that it really effected him mentally I mean he was bullied & humiliated in front of a whole crowd and on tv. I don’t think he knew people were on his side right away until the public backlash, I mean if u watch it u hear people booing but like if I was him I would’ve thought they were agreeing with them and were booing me. Thankfully he did see people disagreed and were angry with them and were on his side but it’s still a lot to handle especially at such a young age.
I can't help but feel they were trying to gain popularity by being a meaner "Simon Cowell" and you're right, Simon can be brutal, but it's honest critique, whereas NK and WM we're just being mean for brutality sake and it backfired. Idiots.
Nope and I still don’t know them.
Meanwhile she got the whole Cleopatra vibe. Idk who these people are anyway. 🤣
Peeps were more outraged over what O'Connor did with a picture, than what the priests did to untold kids. Messed up world right?
Still unmarked children's grave being found in Catholic run residential schools in Canada. Weak, watery apologies from the Pope but no real accountability. And money supposed to go the indigenenous communities harmed by this cultural genocide gets diverted to build a new cathedral. O'Conner had it right - fuck the Catholic hierarchy and their sanctimonious, money grubbing, authoritative child abusing ways. They stand for abuse of women and children as they stood for Mussolini and Hitler, all the while holding out the collection plate.
Yep 😢
Yep! To that one like?
Absolutely insane. Feel so bad for her.
How was Elizabeth Berkeleys movie showgirls any different than Demi Moores Striptease movie?Hollywood is so hypocritical.
Key difference was Demi Moore was already an established star. In fact the highest paid actress at that time. Showgirls was a make or break role for Elizabeth who was just trying to go main stream.
Maybe she’s a Republican? Just throwing it out there🤷♀️
She was also coming off a kids show so people had a stereotype of her as a cute teen Still in school.
@@megansummersides4255 Oh, shut up with the fake victimhood.
@@andreabonanno4205 I agree, she took a role that was an 180° from her previous role and people hated it and hated her for doing it.her acting wasn't bad.
Where’s Jussie Smollett?
who dat?
He says he's still recovering from when Will Smith slapped him.
its says "stars".
@@mikeawesome9212 LOL
Absolutely, he is despicable!
Meg Greig saying she " may have played a part" in that tragedy shows little remorse.
Yes - my jaw dropped when I heard that. Like seriously?
No Remorse from her but the other guy....Yes. I'm Sure he lives with it everyday. You can feel his empathy.😞
She absolutely had a part in the woman’s death!! It was very much her fault! Rather disgusting that she doesn’t really take any responsibility.
The word, "may,' gives lie to any accountability.
I picked up on that also
Mathew broderick killed two people in a car accident in the 80s when he was first a star. Look at his career.
He was in my cousin's film, "To Dust" 2018 and he has a picture with him and my uncle. He said he was extremely polite, very professional and had a good sense of humor, but. he got old. He said Ron Perlman was quite a character but nice.
Wow, didn't know that
Yeah, but it stalled for a long time because of that.
Over in Europe I believe. And yet he didn't spend a day in jail and was back in the States as if nothing ever happened. Oh, he gets to sleep with Sarah-Jessica Parker too.
Jennifer Grey was his girlfriend at the time .She was in the car at the time .It happened shortly after they made Ferris Bueller.
Sinead was absolutely right - but way ahead of her time as far as people being aware of how sick the church actually was/is in sexual abuse of children. Good job Sinead.
Well, duh, Sinead figured that out all by herself?
@@Jeff-jg7jh No, it'd been somewhat known but constantly covered up and those who abused were simply relocated instead of held accountable while the pope knew. There was also the whole thing with Catholics turning a shoulder to the whole thing, and some blaming the children as well.
How can people not know? They're so stupid. They don't want to know. Nothing wrong with what Sinead did at all. I'm tired of all this politically correct bullshit, while these sociopaths destroy our world and lives. From the queen's pedophile son who doesn't have to face justice to the Klaus Scwhabs
Although she appears a little crazy, maybe due to some early childhood abuse. I think she needs some serious help and the World owes her an apology.
@@roylatekajxam Damn i saw her latest video, her son died this year and she lost it.
Let's be real - no one had a clue who Natalia kills or Willie moon were, every kiwi was like "who TF are these 2 idiots?" They were, and still are, nobody's.
I’m English…and I don’t know who they are. I don’t know anyone who does know who they are. Honestly.
The world owes Sinead O’Connor an apology. She was right after all.
To be fair, she didn't give any context to her "protest". It would have been different if she had made it clear she was speaking out against child sexual abuse and not just a general hatred of the pope.
@@9melissal Good point but still.
@@9melissal she literally explained that was what she was protesting about but no one believed her.
She was done so dirty for speaking out against it in a way that literally couldn't be ignored.
Oh please. Let's stop pretending whistleblowers aren't blackballed or killed. If she literally shed light on victims & named more names, she would have been killed, courtesy of the RCC. Real shit. & just like now, none of mfs would have done anything about it.
Justice for Sinead though. She spoke out about something that wasn't even fully looked into for like a decade later. She used her platform to bring something that has been affecting the young and had been covered up for so long to the front lines and was disgraced for it.
Agree!
Def agree that she was dimissed and thrown to the side unfairly!
Absolutely!
I agree, she was treated unfairly. After all this time it has come to light that she was right. The higher-ups at the Catholic Church or corrupt and evil.
I wondered what happened to her bc I hadn’t watched TV for about 10 years when I had kids!
my god those judges were more than mean cruel really and so full of themselves
So, Ray Rice punched his fiance and dragged her unconscious body like a bag of potatoes and she married him instead of running away? What is wrong with her?
Yeah, I'm still tripping off that but it's not uncommon 🤷🏿♂️
Newsflash, she gets wet when he beats her.
Like the old rap song said” what people do for money “… those rhymes will explain everything …
Abused spouse syndrome, apparently. It's so sad, but there is a specific type of person who thinks that abuse is acceptable. I'm guessing she grew up in a violent household and probably thinks that kind of evil behavior is "normal."
money
That Dean scream cracks me up all the time lol
Heaven forbid that a presidential candidate who sounds irrational and out of control could ever be elected to the office! A Democrat who favors universal health insurance is declared unfit for the job over a few seconds of sounding un-presidential, while one who sounds that way all the time, but favors huge tax cuts for the rich is forgiven.
@@brianarbenz1329 Ugh......ok. None of that is relevant to my statement. That scream will always be hilarious to me because of the spoofs, could care less about the "politics" behind it
Ya that’s funny
I think Elizabeth Berkeley got a raw deal. Showgirls wasn’t a bad movie and she is still pretty easy on the eyes.
Met her in person and she is one of the nicest and most gorgeous ladies ever.
well her acting is bad.
The movie was offensive. It didn't really have anything to do with her.
Problem with Berkeley is not showgirls, it's that she is a dreadful actress. Nothing against her personally, but it's the truth.
@Matt Stevenson NO, how about the scene where one of the showgirls gets brutally raped, stumbles to her feet,with blood gushing out of from her vagina dripping profusely down her leg ,then she passes out and dies? Or when the star herself kicks a dancer down the stairs?. She trips, falls, dies and most of the other showgirl dancers acted like nothing happened.
Maybe sick asses like you like misogyny and violence, I dont. And yet people like you have the nerve to complain about gore sites, when entertaininment like ShowGirls movie is supposed to be "normal". At least gore sites show real life and not some psycho fantasy.
The movie was offensive because most people don't think of Showgirls in that manner. They have the idea they have at least a shred of wholesomeness and that their lives are conductedin a sumilar fashion. That movie was just gross and too affronting to sensitivities
Sinead O'Connors career only 'ended' in America. She's still a legend in the Uk and europe and always has been. She's released some great albums and had loads of success covering 3 decades.
The video states that she had success after this incident. Just not the same success as before ...
no - sinead o'connor was finished in britain by this and other erratic behaviour by her (not wanting the usa anthem to be played - at her usa concerts) - she's basically a 1 hit and 1 album wonder in britain - look at the chart positions of her singles and albums and see.
SHithead O'CONNOR IS DONE
@@mrgobrien I’m totally with her on not wanting the anthem played. I am also very aware most Americans are overly patriotic and believe there’s a man in the sky watching over them. So can understand why they would reject her and why she would reject them. Unfortunately in that era if you didn’t break America you were classed as a failure. The single and album you mention are litterally up there with her worst worst work ironically. ‘Irony’ something else Americans don’t understand.
@@mrgobrien you’ve only got to look at the top of the charts from any week over the last 30-40 years that Number 1’s don’t mean quality. It means the persons record label ploughed a lot of money into getting it there.
Amber Heard should be on this list 🤣🤣🤣
She would need a whole episode.
How can you steal 22 years of someone’s careers cause you didn’t like the movie they were in. WHAT D F .
Yeah, I always thought that was really messed up. She just wanted to break out of the "goody two shoes" roles she was always cast in after Saved by the Bell. Same as tons of other child stars. Not really fair
Different time then
I reckon it was more than that. I think she said no to the wrong Producer, Director etc......
@@bogusmogus9551 exactly 😢
Howard Dean losing ANYTHING over that scream has to be one of the stupidest things ever. Well next to our current one.
He said it himself in that later interview - he wasn't ready for the national stage. He had trouble connecting with people who had different viewpoints than those common in Vermont. He wasn't the first candidate to fade quickly after early primary success, and it's happened since then.
He didn't spoil his career in an instant. The scream was just a sound byte that got played over and over.
@@mikecarr4178 exactly! If he couldn't handle the media teasing him for a funny moment how was he going to handle the kind of public criticism the president is subject to?
There were soooo many reasons for Howard Dean to lose. That scream just made people stop and look at him personally, not just the Dem figurehead.
You mean our FORMER current one. The one currently working on his change of address form to federal prison...in ORANGE crayon.
You mean former orange blob!
About Milly Vanilly, I was told their self-released album was actually good. Because of the reputation they had, no one wanted to give them another chance. Sad really
Can you blame them? They got famous being complete frauds.
@@9melissal Can't blame them at all. Just like the Ashley Simpson debacle, once you're exposed, there is no more stardom. Only infamy
They were actually good. They were just used by their producers.
Brandy is still thriving. She starred in The Game, a movie with Tyler Perry, started in The Star on fox, also stars in ABC Queens. Went on multiple world tours. Released 2 more albums. Disney re-released Cinderella. She sang Disney new theme song, Starting Now. She’s about to start in a new Christmas Movie. Oh she also just sang with Mariah Carey. So yeah, i think she’s doing just fine:
They always exaggerate shit.
Her Versuz ratings were also pretty good with Monica . I think she’s doing okay as well
Hey Brandy 😅🤣
Right, Brandy is doing great
Well these days it's not easy to stay on the high music charts a long time. It just isn't. I don't know why.
That 'Dean Scream' is absolutely funny.
It only ended his career because he felt embarrassed about it. Certainly not like others career ending events listed
I know absolutely nothing about his politics, but it’s crazy how something as innocent as a scream can end his dreams of taking the WH lol Considering all the corruption & sketchy behavior that seems to be hand in hand with politics, it’s wild that a gaffe like that could derail everything
@@isitoveryet9525 I wouldn’t be surprised if there more to the story
@@isitoveryet9525 I was thinking the same thing. It was harmless and hilarious at best. It was no reason to end.
@@jamiemelquist8733 Nope. Nothing else to it. Just stupid American politics as per usual No more. No less.
How could they not mention Will Smith 🤣
And Amber Heard
I Guess because will Smith is still Rich .no matter he does more Movies or not.
Amber Heard will be on the updated version of this list 😆
yeah, but Amber did it over time, and would need a mini-series 💩
Absolutely!!!😂😂😂😂
The perjury champion
Showgirls didn't ruin her career, she's awesome
O’Conner deserves an apology. She was right, and then people ruined her.
Exactly.
Spot on
No she wasn’t.
@@katemiller7874 she wasn’t? How?
Isnt this the woman who supports or supported the IRA?
Mel Grieg, the DJ who impersonated the Queen, tried to make herself out as some sort of victim but she was an adult making adult decisions. The problem with pranks is that they can have bad consequences. It was a disgrace that so many people in the media supported her. That nurse was worried about losing her job.
I’m not British so I can’t fully grasp the gravity of impersonating the Queen, but I don’t think I’d ever trust this Grieg person to host a pie eating contest, let alone another show.
I think that it was a very stupid and thoughtless thing to do, I hate pranks for all the reasons you listed, especially ones meant for content. You just don't know how people will respond. I don't think there's anyway anyone could have predicted somebody would commit suicide over that though. I don't know anything else about how the DJ handled it, so I won't speak on that.
@@deathbloom27 That's theproblem though, one never knows how a prank can backfire, many years ago I heard of one where a man was told his wife left him and he too committed suicide.
ALSO THAT NURSES ENDED UP TAKING HER OWN LIFE
Mel Grieg's victim attitude makes me sick to my stomach. Her childish prank resulted in the nurse committing suicide, leaving two children motherless. I've always hated radio pranks.
Sinead O'Connor was ahead of her time and should've been deemed a heroine instead of being ostracized.
Agree
The same thing happened to Joanne D'Arc, what did you expect? If she was a man, I bet she would have been forgiven. It's sad that ppl marginalised outspoken public figures due to fighting for causes or raising awareness to child ab..., especially in the middle of the Catholic church
She is a hero for what she did here in Europe
No matter what your line of work is, you cannot find yourself irreplaceable, you gotta know that certainly there are people better than you in your line of work, one time you got put aside, they take over your place and nobody else is gonna miss you there.
Come on BOB, if the earth were flat, cats would have knocked everything off by now!
😂😂😂
WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MIND HATES “SHOWGIRLS???!” That movie is goddam gold! The pool sex seizure w/Kyle MacLachlan?? The dance numbers?? It’s beautiful cheese at its best & Liz Berkeley looks 🔥! I love it!
except for her flat ass! lol im sorry it bothered me the whole movie
It really is amazing!
Omg 😒
Pool sex seizure is so damm spot on 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I just watched it the other day..absolutely love that movie
Music artists have a shelf life that averages 4 to 5 years, so I dont think Brandy's career slide had much to do with the accident. Halle Berry and Vince Neil had careers after accidents that killed people, and Director John Landis went on to have several high profile hit movies after blatantly ignoring film safety laws, resulting in the decaptlitation of two kids and actor, Vic Morrow on a movie set. Brandy's gig was just over because music tastes were changing, and the quality of her songs fell, quite frankly.
Catwoman killed Berry's career. Karma.
Sinead O’Connor was right about the Catholic Church though.
She is the evidence what Establishment can do to truth. The lawsuits were out there, it was no secret, but Mama Bears didn’t want to believe it.
Amen
Absolutely!!
What Jimmy “The Greek” said about black athletes being superior athletically due to slavery is right too! I’m black and a former pro athletes. And this is what I’ve always said. To break it down: back in the day they literally would put the biggest strongest slaves together to mate, in order to create best selling slaves. It’s literally like breeding the best horses over time and their bloodline eventually produces “prize” horses. HOW is this a difficult concept to grasp?
Proud of u, Mitchell for seeing what it was. What he said about genetic combining was not necessarily racism. It's just what was done at that time... now, slavery, WAS racism. It's really kinda cool that descendants of that era " forced combining" are reeping rewards of outstanding strength and abilities. What the devil meant for evil the Lord brings around for good.
Elizabeth Berkeley,,sinead o conaer and Ashley Simpson did not deserve to have there careers ruined.
"THEIR"!
I never understood the controversy about Howard Dean. I would still have voted for him...especially considering the alternative was W.
I'll say this about Sinead O'Connor, I freaking love her voice and I've never stopped being a fan. The fight against oppression/abuse/cruelty and bringing it to the forefront has to start somewhere with someone's voice. I don't know many people who would have the cajones to do that. Ok yeah the scream was a little weird and awkward, but he was running for office not trying out for cheerleading. And I'll admit it I like Showgirls in a weird way, don't really know why I do, but I do.
*You ToTALLY left out the ENTIRE reason* Simpson was so harshly criticized..literally like a week before the slip up, Simpson had super harsh words of condemnation for any singers that lip synced, EVER..then low and behold she's busted for attempting to lip sync on SNL..
*Ashley Simpson:* but, but "reasons"
😂
Yep I remember that 😮
That' s hilarious 🤣😂
❤️❤️❤️wow, this was interesting! 😁👌🏻Thank you.
Jimmy the Greek was NOT a sportscaster, and he did NOT start the CBS pregame football show. He was basically on air talent as an odds maker for scores. This is what I don't like about UA-cam, ANYONE can upload ANYTHING without FACTS or merit.
Jimmy the Greek, ...statement of facts got him labeled a racist! He never once disparaged blacks, and had many lifelong black friends. The media of course painted him like he said "I h@te black people". He merely stated facts!
Not true. He was originally a taxidermist. You just came on here and made that stuff up.
Married ones 13 year 3d cousin….that would kill one’s career (and should have locked him up)
yeah but thats the way them hillbilly stump jumpers do it don t u know
My uncle dated Elizabeth after she did Showgirls. She wanted to do it because she was originally a dancer and acting came afterwards. She saw it as a way to get to open her career to including dance too. Her career wasn't over after Showgirls. She did other movies and TV shows. She has a wealthy background so she wasn't doing it for the money. She is the sweetest and most gentle soul. She was super kind to everyone no matter what their social status was. I greatly enjoyed the time I got to spend with her. She's a nicer person than my uncle, lol
I can believe that but seriously showgirls is a horrible movie ,just awfully done
to me, Sinead O' Connor still rocks!
Yes, I've remained a fan myself. She was definitely put through the crucible for taking a stand.
Sinead was right all along and I bet the people she was trying to expose ruined her career. They punished her for speaking up against them
Lmfao k.
It would be cool if we all could agree on a maximum 'social media sentence' instead of rehashing people's single mistakes over and over again, sometimes decades after. We're all people, we all make mistakes and most of us learn and grow from it. None of us would like it if people kept dragging our names through the mud over and over again because of one incident and being defined by it (to me it's different if it's a pattern or if someone stands by his or her choice years after).
Very well put and very true. Were human we make mistakes...we all have. Now if you dont learn from your mistakes and keep going them, then that's a different story
I agree for the most part,however the milli vanilli thing, they didn't just lip sync a song bc throat problems, they FAKED their whole career! so im glad they were busted an had to give back the grammy they never should of had, a scam
@@brandy_lish It seems you're missing the point: there's a difference between being busted and having to hear about it decades later while you have long moved on (or even dead, in Rob Pilatus' case). Btw: at first they weren't aware they were faking anything and by the time they found out there was no going back, it's interesting to read the actual background story.
Racists, spouse beaters, and child predators shouldn't have second chances.
@@21centuryg Child predators yes, without a doubt. But the other 2... A lot of people, including myself, would be considered racist when looking at what they said two decades ago, back in the days when for example racist jokes were considered 'normal'. Since then I've learned a lot and now actively advocate diversity and inclusion. So I shouldn't get a second chance? And how about spouse beaters that got years of therapy and anger management and haven't hurt anyone in over a decade, or were beaters when drunk and quit drinking, or now help other abusers to do better? Life isn't black and white.
That was an extremely interesting video..thanks!🔥
How does Ray J (Brandy's brother) deserve a mention when discussing his sister's career? 🤔
I don’t know when you got your facts , but like last week Monique and the director literally cried and he said sorry for blackballing her and she is due for multiple movies on Netflix !! So yeah she is finally free from that!! GO MONIQUE GO!!
I'm SOOO glad that total bullshit is mostly squashed.
Oh good I love her
This didn’t age well….I wonder if she’ll have any movie roll now?
@@recycledknowledge6105 what happened?
@@avalonsignoraalmas6150 she went on a tirad about dl hugley at a show where she was his opening act and it went down hill from there. Look it up. She’s apparently trying to cancel herself. I hope she does better because she is hella funny!
Yo the X factor judges were too savage. W.t.f. 🤣😂 That poor guy did NOT deserve or need all that to be said to him, it was like they chose one person to unleash a bunch of mean , negative, hurtful comments on . Slowwww down nah
Great stuff, thanks!
I really liked Elizabeth Berkley in Show Girls. Didnt think I would like it but I did. She was good in CSI too. Shes a great actress. Not a big fan of Folly Wood. But along with Brook Shields growing up acting in that atmosphere both seem like genuinely nice people.
Come Hollywood . giving Elizabeth another chance is not much to ask. I believe she can l
Play excellent roll player in any movie
Jerry Lee Lewis killed one of his wives at his home. He had the maid wash her and redress her and clean up the crime scene. The local police kept the state's crime team away until all was cleaned. However, liminal test showed blood on the walls, the piano and floor. He got away with it.
probably he was very abusive
He's not called "The Killer" for nothing.
Geez,that guy was wacked!
Wow! I have never heard that. I did hear he wasn't a nice guy in real life
@@megae859 all news to me
It’s so sad that one moment of impatience while driving has changed the lives of so many forever. Also sad: you can make a weird noise when you’re happy and lose your career.
I was 7yrs old I got to see O'Connor do that live!!!! She was ahead of her time in defending children!!!!!!
If you truly saw her, keep that with you. It’s a huge pop culture as well as political statement that shouldn’t be forgotten! 👍
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I don't think Showgirls single-handedly destroyed Berkeley's career. The show actually enjoys cult status today. She's a bit of an over-actor, no chill in any role she plays.
Actually most of the things Monique claimed that happened was proven to be true. There's a voice recording from Tyler Perry stating that he was wrong and wanted to meet with her. He changed his mind later and demanded a apology from her.
Her husband actually did try to pimp the producers though. He would have Monique stop doing promo to extort them for more money. Yeah, he’s been pimperish, admittedly and I wouldn’t have worked with her ass either. Still wouldn’t.
Monique Is Talent! Girl, lose the "daddy" confirmation code and you will stand up strong once again in your own personality humor likeability cleverness sense and sensibility. We miss Your Presense Monique ❤ !!
What Jimmy “The Greek” said about black athletes being superior athletically due to slavery is right too! I’m black and a former pro athletes. And this is what I’ve always said. To break it down: back in the day they literally would put the biggest strongest slaves together to mate, in order to create best selling slaves. It’s literally like breeding the best horses over time and their bloodline eventually produces “prize” horses. HOW is this a difficult concept to grasp?
@@MitchellBahamas good theory but BS. Africans are better at any sport which requires body strength, it’s something to do with the muscle tone, not all Africans were slaves but they still have better results in Athletics. It’s the same reason why black athletes struggle in sports like swimming. It’s DNA.
@@cloverite is that why Africa wins NO GOLD MEDALS and Black Americans and Caribbean blacks (where slavery started) DOMINATE? what are you talking about? Lol. Have you ever seen the USA basketball team play against ANY African team!?😂😂🤦🏽♂️
I loved the "Dean Scream." It was fun and hilarious. Sad that it torpedoed his political career. Much rather see him go down for "real" reasons.
Maybe it’s better that it didn’t. Politics are nasty nowadays. At least he can say he went down for this, rather than something far far worse
Gayhart one I have no sympathy for her. That fact she went around people waiting for children to cross the street, yet she was too entitled to wait and crossed into the opposite lane and hit the child.
I still love Millie Vanillie!!! But their song skipping live during the MTV music awards was hilarious
Ashley Simpson was treated like Mili Vanili when the SNL incident happened.
Sinead O'Connor was not wrong when she did that.
EXACTLY!! GOOD ON YOU SINEAD O'CONNOR!! I was just a little kid hearing that big hit on the radio back then but had no idea of that incident that derailed her career so early on. That took a lot of guts to bring that up in those days, especially in such a way. And Ashley Simpson, I was never a fan but still couldn't understand why that silly incident became the defining moment of her career to where she just disappeared. I can't understand it. I always felt kinda bad for her.
I remember Ashley Simpson singing at the Orange Bowl. It was terrible... her voice sounded like crap and it seemed like she didn't really care. I still remember the crowd (live on air) chanting... You Suck, You Suck, You F*king Suck!
@Matt Stevenson Terrible taste, lol, she just ripped up a stupid picture of a leader of a bunch of child fuckers.
Ashley handled it so unprofessionally. Just sing the track they're playing... Duh...She got booed on stage... You have to be prepared or don't do it
@Matt Stevenson Why didn't she just lip-sync to the track they were playing, instead of acting like an idiot? The mussic industry has become such a joke
sinead o'connor is still a good artist and she had a point
I love watching stuck up better than thou celebrities just totally open their mouth insert foot and ruin their freaking careers keep up the good work
Nothing but love for Sinead O’Connor & heartfelt condolences sent to her over the loss of her son.
It's crazy how your whole life can change in a minute
What's crazier is how much worse it's gotten. In the '50s you had to marry a 13-year-old. Now you just make a joke or say something you normally say after a few drinks and your career is over. Strange as it sounds, the 1950s was more tolerant than the 2020s.
TRUST ME.. I KNOW!!
TRUST ME.. I KNOW!!
Or a slap
@@exapplerrelppaxe7952 Were you there? Jerry Lee Lewis’s career was ended for marrying under age
Why does no one ever talk about the time when Holly Barry committed a hit-and-run. I believe shortly after that she was rewarded with an Oscar.
Because this is a list of ended careers. Hers didn’t take a hit BUT I DO agree. It’s disgusting!
@@somethingaboutbeaute Yes, disgusting. And good point…her career did not suffer.
Believe me , Elizabeth Burkley did just fine as a major character on csi Miami after showgirls as Horatio Caine:s ex wife and his baby mama. She had a huge recurring role. Nikki just never saw csi Miami once or she would know this.
Jerry Lee Lewis was his eras R Kelly
All the naysayers from the early 90s owe Sinead O'Connor a HUGE apology
Of all things, trying to lip sync on SNL and then blaming your band for it is high up there on the list of dumb things to do.
Just a complete lack of effort for such a major opportunity. Totally deserved outcome.
love how actors cry about being blackballed but never accept that it was their behaviour had anything to do with that
Boondocks Saints was a masterpiece of great fun. Almost everyone in it is so so good at their jobs. So good.
To be honest. Brandi's career was over when she lied about being married to the father of her kid because she didn't want people to know she had a child out of wedlock. The accident was the last draw.
She also has a stuck-up attitude. From Ms. Harper Stacey.
Never forget
LOL are you serious so future has nine kids by nine different women and you talking about Brandy was ashamed of having one kid out of wedlock 😂😂😂😂
I was thinking the same thing. She got a lot of bad press during that and the car crash. Also I feel like her first two albums I in the 2000s was a lot slower in terms of RnB music. The other had a lot of uptempo stuff during that time.
Ya I wouldn’t write someone off for that.
Sinead wasn't wrong though
I think those involved in the automobile accident deaths would sound a lot more shallow IF THEY DID NOT continue to be affected by the knowledge that they (either by negligent mistake or unavoidable circumstance) caused another's death. Yeah--if it were me, I'd never get over it, never forget it, probably never forgive myself, and would need lots of therapy just to go on afterwards.
Unfortunately--accidents do happen, people do die, make poor choices. I can't hold a young woman's faulty (and yes deadly) driving decision in quite the same 'unforgivable' light as something like Sandy Hook, though. These women didn't get in their cars intending to do violence.
Showgirls is a great movie. The storyline was entertaining and the actors weren't cheesy so why did the movie get a bad reputation all those years ago?
Why didn't help boost her career? It showcased that she could do more then teen acting on a teen drama. Plus her dancing and gymnastics were so good.
Showgirls.was considered bad because it is rated NC-17. overall it is not a bad movie, actually better than Saturday Night Fever.
NC-17 and PG-13 ratings are both death sentences. A great recent example is Morbius. It is actually a great Vampire Film. And it offers a modern feel of early 1950's comic books. But it does not fit with the MARVEL label.
Showgirls was too shocking for audiences at the time, very scandalous, and the way it was marketed didn’t help (gratuitous nudity, homosexuality, drugs and alcohol, etc.). It was simply ahead of its time. Luckily times change, and now it’s considered a cult classic.
I'm not a John Mayer fan, but he did form the band "Dead & Company" with the surviving members of the Grateful Dead. They are still active and on tour. He's like the lead singer. ???
Yea thats a downgrade from what he once was.
I always liked the Dean Scream. Sounds like Woody from 'Toy Story' after hitting a fat rail.
The movie Show Girls is one of my most favorite movies. I cannot believe that that movie ended the star’s career. Crazy.
They could have added Lisa Bonet to the list. She was destroyed by a similar move when she took the role in Angel Heart.
I just love how the gayheart girl made herself the victim
A lot of them do. Or they talk about their behavior as a situation that just materialized from thin air that they had nothing to do with.
@@khefrenka2348 yes exactly, you're absolutely right!!!
I was just thinking that. She really had the audacity to say that it’s something SHE never got over it and SHE has to get therapy and blah blah blah smh
@@deandrewilliams5336 mmm hm
She'll always be the Noxzema girl to me. Years before Jawbreaker and Urban Legend 😆😆😆
John Mayer now tours with Dead & Company - I think his career is doing just fine
Ashlee Simpson still had success after the SNL incident. Her second album did just as good as the first. It was multi platinum and still went #1.
@joey lucas 🤙😂😂💁correct 💯
Still agree with Sinead always will
Nah it wasn't the scream...I'm quite sure it was some other stuff we'll never know of.
It was Republicans making a big deal out of nothing, that's what it was.
Can you even imagine that a presidential candidate didn’t win because of a scream in a speech? I miss those days. How depraved United States has devolved into.
Sinead O’Connor was right abt everything.
I agree.
The funny thing about the Ashlee Simpson incident is that MOST and I mean MOST major musicians use backing tracks when performing live. It eases strain on the vocal chords and they have more freedom to move about the stage. It's absolutely ridiculous. On top of that, a lot of performances on talk shows are lip synced because of the lack of space for the equipment required for a live performance.
Exactly! What’s so different about todays auto tune music?
The band tried to save her even. They started playing for her to sing along with as soon as SNL cut the wrong backing track they had accidentally played. If she had just gone along with it and sang live, it wouldn't have been nearly as big an incident. By running off stage like she did, she made it seem like all she had been doing was lip synching and she was a complete fraud. That's why people latched onto it so much.
I think if she hadn't started the blame game she would have been ok.
@@9melissal The band tried to save her sorry behind but she threw them under the bus and said they started playing the wrong track. I think that's what really upset people. She first tried to blame innocent people and only came up with her acid reflux story when she realized she had to take responsibility.
@@sarahedwards8415 exactly I recall her putting people down!
Nightmare on Elm Street IV features the Sinead O’Connor song “I Want Your Hands On Me.”
I had a couple cassettes by her. She has some good music out there. Her most famous song wasn’t her best song.
O’Connor is right…🇺🇸❤️🕊
The Mtv interview accidentally blew the roof off of the Milli Vanilla scheme before it went public. They went to the studio and the back-up singer's were singing song's live. M.V. knew they made a big mistake and quickly rushed out of the interview.
I loved it 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I will never ever forget Ashley Simpson jigging herself off the SNL stage 😂 and as a musician and singer myself, using the excuse like acid reflux just doesn't fly honey LMAO! Granted it yes it may be uncomfortable if you end up getting an episode during a performance where you have to sing but I never had it screw up my concerts or my recitals or whatever I might have been doing. I used to get acid reflux when I was nervous before a performance so her using this as an excuse as to why she lip synced and couldn't do her performance is a pathetic excuse.
Snyder was just honest. He’s absolutely right 🤷🏾♂️
Agreed 💯 God damn world has gone straight to shit!!😒
Idk about the slavery bit, but blacks are typically more athletic than whites