Fast Caramelized Onions Using Water from America's Test Kitchen

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  • @amarug
    @amarug Рік тому +330

    I am no chef, just a home cook but I tend to think mostly in terms of physics and chemistry (due to degeneration from my profession). For many years I have added salt and water at the start when I needed to brown onions or mushrooms. My thinking was: the salty water creates an osmotic potential to draw out the water from the onions (or mushrooms) together with the sugars and the steaming softens them so that the contact area increases (as you said yourself) boosting the browning. I never thought much of it, but it is fun to see how now this seems to have become something that people talk about in channels that I have always loved, such as yours.

    • @jmlinden7
      @jmlinden7 Рік тому +6

      The water conducts heat faster so it gets the interior of the onions up to temp faster.

    • @knickly
      @knickly Рік тому +3

      Makes me wonder about dry salting the onions cold, then letting them macerate - much like when making kraut. Thus, no water is added, and the initial step doesn't require watching a hot pan. Another option that occurs to me is blanching, letting them drain/dry, then proceeding.

    • @californicated_
      @californicated_ Рік тому +1

      ​@@knickly you lose onion juice (flavor) then tho?

    • @knickly
      @knickly Рік тому +2

      @@californicated_ perhaps - it is a risk. But it might be worth it nonetheless.

    • @mushy470
      @mushy470 Рік тому +4

      @@knickly I do this. I once did it accidentally bc i just put the onions and salt in a pan and got distracted (adhd). When i came back some liquid had released and it turned out really well. This actually led me to just adding water myself though as it is just easier imo thank leaving raw onions hanging about, especially because of the smell and tears.

  • @derimmerlugt3032
    @derimmerlugt3032 Рік тому +67

    I was taught to do it this way nearly 20 years ago by my mom, and she learned it working in a hotel kitchen years before that, so this trick has definitely been around for a while.

    • @intraum
      @intraum Рік тому +5

      who was implying this is a brand new invention? onions have been around for thousands of years

    • @derimmerlugt3032
      @derimmerlugt3032 Рік тому +18

      @@intraum Someone in your head, presumably.

    • @rachelle1
      @rachelle1 Рік тому +17

      ​@@derimmerlugt3032 some people just troll around looking to be offended. I appreciated your comment. Thanks for sharing 😊

  • @multicoloredwiz
    @multicoloredwiz Рік тому +79

    Every video you produce is so wonderful, informative, and yet succinct! Far and away, among the finest producers on the tube. I REALLY appreciate them and all your hard work!!! And furthermore, your propensity to look into those tales spun by those old wives has proven helpful in opening my mind! GOD BLESS!!!

  • @max_meliani
    @max_meliani Рік тому +47

    Lan Lam is a genius. She's able to explain the most counterintuitive techniques in a way that makes them sound obvious!

  • @rumbleinthekitchen_Amy
    @rumbleinthekitchen_Amy Рік тому +82

    I've tried this and it's pretty cool. I hated how oily the onions got with adding extra oil along the way, so I switched to deglazing with a little water instead & pleasantly surprised. When I saw Lan's video it validated everything I'd been doing so I told my husband I was a genius and didn't even know it. 😂

  • @doctaflo
    @doctaflo Рік тому +6

    YES! another addition to the Helen Rennie caramelized onion playlist!

  • @briwindau4861
    @briwindau4861 Рік тому +15

    I do this with onions in a cast iron skillet. I do have the issue with some browning sticking to the pan but since I often do one pan meals I'm able to recover a lot of that browning and flavor with the addition of the next ingredient. Love the note of knowing your pan and stove to be careful with the heat. You have incredibly thorough content and I appreciate how much time you spent in exploring this concept to share with us!

  • @HyperactiveNeuron
    @HyperactiveNeuron Рік тому +12

    Excellent point about heat settings. Most people in the US have an electric stovetop. Anytime a recipe says high heat I start on medium high. If it says medium high I go to medium. High heat on most electric cook tops for more than a couple minutes is hot enough to warp your pan, burn your food and maybe vaporize Teflon which is poisonous.

    • @Rowgue51
      @Rowgue51 10 місяців тому +1

      The only people I know that have electric stove are people that live in apartments. I've never seen anybody living in an actual house have an electric stove.

    • @mathsinger
      @mathsinger 5 місяців тому

      I have lived in two houses with electric stoves - no gas hookups. For over 10 years now, I've used induction and love it.

    • @r.g.sanson133
      @r.g.sanson133 3 місяці тому

      ​Ive only had electric stoves my entire life. There is indeed alot of them out there being used. ​@@Rowgue51

  • @nolansykinsley3734
    @nolansykinsley3734 Рік тому +70

    I recently came across a different take on this method, it used a stainless pan and used 3 additions of water. A larger first addition while covered to steam and once they start caramelizing and a good fond develops like you said deglaze with water and all of the stuff will be picked up by the onions, keep going and when a second fond forms again deglaze again, when the last addition of water is all gone the onions should be nice and caramelized and covered with all the stuff from the pan.

    • @lesdmark
      @lesdmark Рік тому +20

      In addition, you also get to skip your daily dose of PTFE as your not using non-stick cookware.

    • @cstz
      @cstz Рік тому +5

      Yes, this is how I've been doing it for ages, and as someone else said, it eliminates the need for teflon. As for vegetables other than onions, I'm curious to try Brian Lagerstrom's method for quick weeknight meals, wich is pretty much the reverse: quick hard sear, and them a splash of water to help them finishing cooking.

    • @sarahwatts7152
      @sarahwatts7152 Рік тому +3

      I was wondering about all that lovely fond in the pan being left behind. I assume you could deglaze and use it for sauces too, but with the onions you want the flavor IN the onions

    • @andersonomo597
      @andersonomo597 Рік тому

      Great tip!! THANKS!! I gave up nonstick pans ages ago as I got sick of them failing - even the really expensive ones. I regularly polish my pans with fine metal polish - and nothing sticks - and they're so much healthier than nonstick.

    • @timaal5897
      @timaal5897 Рік тому

      this is the way I've been doing it too!

  • @susanneanna2421
    @susanneanna2421 Рік тому +135

    I have done it like this for ages. We have a national dish where you need huge amounts of caramelized onions and this is the fastest way to do it. Results do not depend on the pot or pan.

    • @rachelle1
      @rachelle1 Рік тому +20

      I don't use Teflon so I'm glad to see your comment. I'll give it a try in my stainless steel pan. 😊

    • @serawasnever2902
      @serawasnever2902 Рік тому +15

      Mmmm, what is that yummy sounding national dish of yours? Would dearly like to try it! 🖖

    • @ekinkeskinler
      @ekinkeskinler Рік тому +8

      Could you please share that dish? And where are you from?

    • @Artix902
      @Artix902 Рік тому +6

      @@serawasnever2902 French onion soup

    • @ejunsub
      @ejunsub Рік тому +1

      you should have filed for a patent

  • @stevenwilson5556
    @stevenwilson5556 11 місяців тому +2

    Utterly brilliant video! Bravo and thank you for rigorously testing this and commenting and giving us such great insight with actual physical testing across multiple vegetables and liquids and reporting the results!

  • @domsusefulstuff
    @domsusefulstuff Рік тому +2

    You're the first person I thought of when I saw the Test Kitchen video! I knew you'd take it to the next level and you did not disappoint. Thank you for all the hard work, testing and good advice!

  • @Javaman92
    @Javaman92 Рік тому +4

    I've always loved your scientific mind, it's on full display here. Well done as usual.

  • @aname4me
    @aname4me Рік тому +4

    I'm a retired Engineer.... you are speaking my language... THANKS

  • @dirtyketchup
    @dirtyketchup Рік тому +2

    I love that you're talking about this, Helen! I have been trying to share thoughts on this for a while. Although I am very surprised to hear you say that the stainless steel method doesn't work for this, and you got bad sticking. I exclusively use stainless steel for the "STB" caramelized onions, and I get wonderfully dark and rich jammy onions. The secret is to use the moisture in the onions to deglaze the fond between browning sessions. Just by taking it off the heat for 60 seconds, the fond in the stainless softens and can be mixed back into the onions. Here, I'll paste what I posted on that Lan Lam video you mentioned, since it already explains what I mean:
    "Been doing the caramelized onions and sautéed mushrooms in a similar way for years, and people always tell me I'm crazy. But a couple of things here aren't entirely the best technique. There is no need to start in a cold pan. I know ATK has this obsession with suggesting things be started in a cold pan, but here, it honestly makes zero sense, especially for the mushrooms. Also, for the onions, if you start in a preheated pan, there really isn't much need to cover them with a lid. As the hot steam passes through the onions, they will begin to wilt just fine. Sure, covering them may speed up this process marginally, but not enough to justify cleaning another dish. Here are my methods:
    (CARAMELIZED ONIONS)
    Preheat the pan on medium heat (I prefer stainless steel). Slice enough onions to almost overflow the pan (a lid definitely shouldn't be able to close) and put them in a bowl. Add 3/4 cup water to the bowl as well. Just before adding the onions, crank up the heat to high and pour all of the onions/water into the pan, and a generous pinch of salt. It should steam violently and the onions should start to collapse within a minute. Add more water if it starts to get dry, but be careful, as the onions will also release their own moisture as they continue to wilt down. Once all the onions have released their moisture, lightly drizzle in your oil of choice (I like olive). The boiling water should sort of emulsify with the oil and spread it around. Careful not to add too much so the onions aren't overwhelmed with the oil once they've reduced down. Once the excess water is mostly gone, turn down the heat and proceed with the slower caramelization step. I like the routine of letting things caramelize and form a fond, then taking off the heat for a minute to let the internal moisture deglaze the pan, then stir and repeat, until the onions are really broken down and jammy. This is why I prefer stainless, because it promotes more overall browning not just on the onions, but also in the pan. If you use non-stick, you might end up with a bit of a sweeter result, but still yummy. I also like to perfume the dish with some whole thyme sprigs, and finish it with some balsamic and pomegranate molasses."
    Anyway Helen, I just wanted to share because I was surprised to hear you say that STB doesn't work with stainless. I love using STB for certain things, and I almost exclusively cook with stainless. Thoughts?

  • @Shinryuken15
    @Shinryuken15 Рік тому +1

    Just discovered this channel.. I'm so impressed with how articulate you are and how smoothly you speak. Its like you're reading from a professional article or book! But even better in my opinion.

  • @spinningbackspin
    @spinningbackspin Рік тому +5

    This is a great tutorial. I can't wait to try it. And, to think, I used to eat TV dinners years ago. Helen is such a good teacher. I like basalmic vinegar too.

  • @vorbach1
    @vorbach1 Рік тому +13

    MTB is a technique I developed years ago to lower the calories in my onion soup. Like STB, MTB (Microwave To Brown) requires less oil to cook the onions. MTB requires less attention than STB because you can’t burn anything in the microwave. Using a work bowl with a lid in the microwave is easier, and you can reserve the vegetable juice as an ingredient or to deglaze the pan later on.
    I generally use the microwave anytime one would sweat vegetables in traditional cooking. While some attenuation and stirring are needed for even cooking, it’s faster, easier, and more fool proof than a traditional sweat.

    • @georgebernard2002
      @georgebernard2002 Рік тому +2

      Great idea, whats the timing you generally use before finishing in the pan? Probably undercook in the microwave to finish on high heat with light oil in a pan?

    • @unconventionalideas5683
      @unconventionalideas5683 5 місяців тому +2

      That is really smart.

  • @reddogdude
    @reddogdude Рік тому +4

    I’m so happy that I discovered your channel! I love your vids and if I find myself in Boston with the time, I WILL do a class/lesson. Keep up the good work!

  • @fjordojustice
    @fjordojustice 11 місяців тому +2

    I loved this video, super informative! Not just about the onions, either. I've tried this method a few times for mushrooms, and I found it great, but inconsistent. I think that was because of the different types of mushrooms I was using, so I'm really glad you talked about that.

  • @Stan_sprinkle
    @Stan_sprinkle Рік тому +14

    I’ve been doing this more or less for 20 years. I never had started by steaming, but I’ve always added water to deglaze in the initial phases, which cooks the onions quicker at the same time and then makes the whole thing quicker

    • @Antaios632
      @Antaios632 Рік тому +4

      I've always done it this way, too. I periodically add a bit of water to deglaze and steam rather than doing it all at once. When I do several pounds of onions at once for French onion soup, the water that comes out of the onions steams them, so by the time they dry out and start to brown, there's no need to add more water - but for smaller quantities, it really helps to get them to brown evenly.

    • @Stan_sprinkle
      @Stan_sprinkle Рік тому

      @@Antaios632 agree. It browns much more evenly.

  • @Xubono
    @Xubono Рік тому +30

    This might not be popular, but I usually precook / soften my sliced onions with a small amount of water, in a glass saucepan, with the lid on, IN THE MICROWAVE. Just a few minutes is enough to make the onions softer and translucent. I then transfer to a non-stick pan (*lightly* greased with clarified butter). I used white onions, which have a sharper flavour, and end up sweeter when caramelised. If I don’t want the caramel flavour in some recipes, I cook in the microwave as above, but include 1/2 finely chopped granny smith apple to subtilely sweeten the onions.

    • @Sampster0
      @Sampster0 Рік тому +1

      Fascinating. Do you use the microwave to speed other steps in the cooking process?

    • @Xubono
      @Xubono Рік тому

      @@Sampster0I do most of my cooking in the microwave. I purchased my first microwave oven in 1984, which I continued to use until it stopped working last year (after 38 years). I still brown meat, onions etc, and cook bacon & eggs in a frypan, nearly everything else goes in the microwave. I rarely use any oil.

    • @prashantmaheshwari7933
      @prashantmaheshwari7933 Рік тому

      @@Xubono Please post some more of your recipes , Most UA-cam recipes call for so much oil and methods which take so much time. How much time in microwave for this?

    • @JK-pp2xl
      @JK-pp2xl 4 місяці тому

      What a coincidence. I did this with some small potatoes today, because I forgot to cook them. Turned out perfectly cooked. Could not tell any difference if I had boiled them.

    • @susanwildermuth9222
      @susanwildermuth9222 2 місяці тому

      @@Xubonohow do you brown meat?

  • @jonlul
    @jonlul Рік тому +2

    I am not a professional. But kinda figured this method out on my own awhile ago. I’m actually happy to see it’s a method professionals embrace. 😁 I love your videos & ATK.

  • @reveme
    @reveme Рік тому +4

    Hi, I’m doing this in cast iron skillet and I can confirm that it’s a very good idea! It just speed up the first step, then when the water is gone you have to stay there and stir every two minutes or so… but it works!
    It’s perfect also in enameled cast iron casserole (I have a Staub)

  • @julieblair7472
    @julieblair7472 Рік тому +7

    I discovered this cooking cabbage from one of your videos!! not trying to carmelize it, and started doing it to onions! I use a small amount of oil in a stainless skillet and do a few rounds of deglazing with a splash of water as they brown. It dissolves and coats the veg again. I usually finish with them pretty moist and jammy because I stir the cabbage or onions (sometimes celery!!!!) into a pot of rice as soon as it finishes. It stains the rice a nice bronze color and it is absolutely delicious. The timing is perfect too, done as soon as the rice is every time.

  • @davideggleton5566
    @davideggleton5566 Рік тому

    Great video and exploration of STB. Also excellent information about what works, what doesn't -- and the why of it all. Thanks!

  • @Michael-lp8wd
    @Michael-lp8wd Рік тому +5

    Try it on eggplants.
    Few weeks ago I tried a similar method on eggplants (no lid).
    You need to add quite a lot of water, until they stop sucking it in. Then add the oil an brown them. Perfect caramelisation!

  • @alexnoman1498
    @alexnoman1498 Рік тому

    I keep coming back to your previous Onion vid, thank you for the update!

  • @DasHemdchen
    @DasHemdchen Рік тому +1

    Very intelligent and thoughtfully balanced cooking tips!

  • @Miata822
    @Miata822 Рік тому +2

    I have done this for years and I'm surprised that it is "news" to so many chefs. Water, yes, but very often I will add a splash of vermouth, wine, a bit of lemon juice... This is a fantastic way to start mushrooms on their journey but also works well with the humble hash browns, or flash-cooking shrimp before moving directly to a quick sear.
    Don't start w/ too much liquid (you can always add more), tight fitting lid, uncover & fully reduce the liquid before adding oil. There is a _lot_ of room to play here.
    Honestly, I'm shocked that more people didn't know this technique. I thought I didn't see it in videos because it looks like a shortcut, cheating. I guess I should have made a video.

  • @seriouslyreally5413
    @seriouslyreally5413 Рік тому +1

    One of the most informative cooking lessons I've come across in a long time! I saw Lan Lam's video but this was far more useful. There are sentinal lessons that you come across that take your everyday up to a new level of skill and this is definitely one of them! Because your lesson explored the whys and hows and how this technique can be broaden to other foods it is a far more valuable lesson than the original topic about onions.👍thank you fo your curiosity in experimenting with other foods, skillets and kitchen applications! I put this on the level of parbaking pie crust to get the perfectly browned, light and flaky, no-soggy bottom pumpkin pie crust to the use of baking soda in all kinds of other cooking applications not involving baking😅

  • @davidalan912
    @davidalan912 Рік тому +2

    WonderfulI video! I was looking forward to seeing this, as you know I’ve tried this method and have had great success, looking forward to using it on the other veggies as well! Always inspired by you!

    • @helenrennie
      @helenrennie  Рік тому +1

      Thank you so much for bringing this idea to my attention. I am inspired by you too!

  • @grantritchey7509
    @grantritchey7509 2 місяці тому

    For about 3-4 years I've used the TSB method in a stainlss steel pan and not had the sticking problem you described. 1. I cover and let steem for roughly 2-3 minutes ( water and salt only at this point). 2. Uncover when water has been boiling for a bit and onions are well wilted. Now add the oil when pan is almost dry. Quickly stir to coat. I think that's the only deviation I noticed. Note: I don't think it is worth while to do this unless you do a BIG batch! Helen Thank you, you are a delight!

  • @sweetpeas8206
    @sweetpeas8206 Рік тому +5

    I have done this for years. We caramelize them to go on top of cheeseburgers fresh off the grill. Delicious!

  • @melaneymattson3733
    @melaneymattson3733 Рік тому

    Great tips!! Going to use this method for sure. Will let you know how my pans hold up, Melaney from SoCal.

  • @uniotter2662
    @uniotter2662 Рік тому

    I had seen Lan's method and wondered at the time what you would make of it. And here you took it to the next level by explaining it to the nth degree and applying it in many other situations, thank you! I use non-stick pans a lot and would hate for it to be true that it shortens their lifespan, so I might use the tip that many of your readers mentioned in the comments of employing my microwave for the steam/sweat stage. I've used wine when cooking cabbage, but hadn't noticed the difference in texture when using water (meaning it probably happened, but I didn't put the two together), so thank you for that tip! Your scientifically oriented nature combined with generous sharing of cooking techniques always makes for an extremely valuable video for anyone interested in improving their cooking skills! 🥰

  • @stantheman5163
    @stantheman5163 Рік тому

    What a huge service to the cooking community. Thank you!

  • @catherinamurphy7007
    @catherinamurphy7007 Рік тому

    Thank you for doing all the experiments for us.

  • @Imelldarisky
    @Imelldarisky 11 місяців тому

    I loved when you present another example of that method ♥️♥️♥️

  • @magazineman3910
    @magazineman3910 Рік тому

    YOU ARE THE BEST HELEN. YES, I AGREE WITH YOUR STB THEORY. MY GRANDMOTHER TAUGHT IT TO ME MANY YEARS AGO.
    😊

  • @loren360
    @loren360 Рік тому +2

    I use a version of STB on my frozen cruciferous veggies. I do the steam step in the microwave, then drain and toss them into a nice hot pan for browning. Thanks for the ideas on how to expand this technique!!

  • @dovahkindragonborn9827
    @dovahkindragonborn9827 Рік тому +2

    lots of great advice in this video

  • @tectorgorch8698
    @tectorgorch8698 Рік тому +1

    Thanks so much for all of this great information.

  • @paulgdlmx
    @paulgdlmx 8 місяців тому

    Fantastic -- I used a flat bottom pot and not a lid and it was miraculous. Best ever.

  • @kelleyforeman
    @kelleyforeman Рік тому +4

    I have tried it and I love this method! It’s made French onion soup so much faster!

  • @trillianmcmillian2660
    @trillianmcmillian2660 Рік тому

    so informative as usual! thank you i love firm cabbage and now i know why it is hit and miss when i do it!

  • @namphuongnguyen8569
    @namphuongnguyen8569 Рік тому

    The timing of this video couldn’t have been more perfect. Three days ago I found out that onions caramelizes much faster in the presence of water or steam while I was frying off some onions in the rice cooker. The next day this video showed up in my algorithm!

  • @Constructon_Cambo
    @Constructon_Cambo Рік тому

    I like your cooking style so much, thank for your share.

  • @aaronkochar35
    @aaronkochar35 Рік тому +2

    Having seen Lam's technique and being a devotee to ATK, my first thought was that this was going to be a rip off of that with nothing added in some effort to garner clicks and ad money. WOW, was I totally off the mark! Your insights and practice added sooooo much more (not to dig on ATK, you chose to use more time which allowed a much deeper look). I loved the video and am glad I was cooking while listening, otherwise, I may have switched to something else based in my initial assumption. I'm a subscriber now, thanx!

  • @HighKingTurgon
    @HighKingTurgon Рік тому +2

    I've started using STB for broccoli, with some of the best results of my life. But I definitely don't have a lot of confidence in my Teflon coatings-I've always found nonstick pans to be an alliance of necessity rather than affection. They seem to give about three really good cookings before they go to pot.
    Thanks for the heads-up on wine-steamed cabbage; can't wait to try it!

    • @andersonomo597
      @andersonomo597 Рік тому

      Yep, nonstick pans are a waste of money! I use stainless steel and regularly give them a polish with metal polish, and always heat the pan before adding oil and nothing sticks!!

  • @koalasez1200
    @koalasez1200 5 місяців тому

    Great technique and ATK has awesome processes; I use a lot of their recipes. I dumped my teflon a few years ago and I don’t mind the extra time needed w/stainless steel. Thank you for the comparisons! 😊

  • @zadekeys2194
    @zadekeys2194 Рік тому

    17 minutes is a LONG time to simple see how to do this. A pinned summary of how to cook this would be great. Thank you for your content!

  • @davidyoung745
    @davidyoung745 Рік тому

    I love the side by side comparison. Thanks!

  • @richhenry8004
    @richhenry8004 Рік тому +5

    In both cases you need to cook the onions until they start to break down, it just speeds up the first part of the process because the water/steam cooks the entire surface area of the onion rather than depending on the bottom of the pan to do all the work. Seems like a pretty simple idea.

  • @jonathantr4932
    @jonathantr4932 Рік тому +4

    STB is how I also make new potatoes, cut in half with flat side down for browning. ATK taught me this one. Potatoes, butter, water, salt in and lovely potatoes out!

    • @thighmaster5791
      @thighmaster5791 Рік тому

      Reginn, Thórr, and Elimine currently.
      Seiðr and Heiðr I am slowly warming up to though.

    • @Un1234l
      @Un1234l Місяць тому

      ​@@thighmaster5791
      Is this some Fire Emblem Heroes talk or something?
      Or some other Norse mythology related talk?

    • @thighmaster5791
      @thighmaster5791 Місяць тому

      @@Un1234l Yeah. My comment was related to Fire Emblem Heroes but it seems at that time I was also watching a cooking related video and a FEH summoning video at the same time and commented on the wrong video. Apologies. 😅

  • @Bkellyusa
    @Bkellyusa Рік тому +1

    I am not positive about this but I am pretty sure Kenji came up with this idea. I even cook bacon and pork chops using this method. Doing so creates a better surface contact and bacon actually stayes flatter and cooks more evenly.
    Love your channel. I am just seeing it after years of following at least 6 channels and always looking for more. Much continued success.

    • @alehut
      @alehut Рік тому

      In the food lab, p 225, Kenji recommends adding small amounts of water while caramelizing at higher temps to deglaze the pan regularly. I haven’t seen the outright steaming approach before, personally

  • @ChrisFelt
    @ChrisFelt Рік тому

    Helen Rennie is the best. Always presenting great advice in an accessible format,; with good advice and professionally produced videos. Thanks!

  • @kimberlycary2722
    @kimberlycary2722 10 місяців тому

    ❤ Thank you for this tutorial!! So informative. Love it and I am very happy I found this!! ❤

  • @leah3084
    @leah3084 Рік тому

    I used my cast iron skillet and stirred the onions with a flat metal spatula. That way I kept on scraping the bottom of the pan from any piece that might have gotten stuck.
    When the onions started to brown, I added chunks of chicken and cooked till done.
    Was delicious on a bed of mushed potatoes. We loved it, thank you.

  • @ig4a
    @ig4a Рік тому

    👏 great video, thank you again for all the hard work! 😊

  • @kaylaphillingane4354
    @kaylaphillingane4354 6 місяців тому

    Thanks so much Helen for the comparison

  • @Ottawajames
    @Ottawajames Рік тому +2

    I just saw a tip for this STB method in a stainless steel: deglaze with a splash of water or white wine, scrape up the brown and keep everything constantly moving until the liquid evaporates. All the fond gets back into the onions this way.
    I haven't tried it yet myself, but it seems to work in the video I saw.

  • @peted3637
    @peted3637 Рік тому +1

    Ja, I've done it this way for years. It started out as just a quicker way to 'sweat down' the onions in the steam, then remove the lid, and I noticed that the caramelising happened sooner.

  • @_mokosh_
    @_mokosh_ 4 місяці тому +1

    I totally agree about the non stick pan wearing off much faster! It happened to my stainless steel tefal pan with non stick coating. It became rough and lost its properties. So i need a new pan. Im experimenting now with replacing the first steaming step in microwave and it works great with cabbage, all types, Brussel sprouts are the best from microwave

    • @snowyminnesota6028
      @snowyminnesota6028 20 годин тому

      Do you have any sense that maybe it's the higher level of heat that's degrading your teflon coatings? When I see something like this being done on teflon I cringe because I think that surely a lot of heat builds up in all that oil after the water has evaporated.

  • @revoakes8984
    @revoakes8984 Рік тому +3

    STB works great with bacon too! Almost all the caveats you demonstrate apply to bacon as well.. type of skillet, etc. The biggest method difference is that the water should start by covering the bacon. Second difference is that much less stirring is needed, just helping the strips stay separated is about all, until dry, then quickly brown on each side (a flattening weight works well for that too), drain … et voila! Lovely, tender-crisp, almost totally non-fat bacon with excellent aroma and flavor, with a bonus of lovely bacon grease left in the pan. Medium heat works best.

  • @simonedallachiesa9804
    @simonedallachiesa9804 Рік тому

    This video is fantastic! I only use white wine, specially for onions, never water.

  • @ceecee4729
    @ceecee4729 Рік тому

    Loving the precision and methodology you bring to cooking
    Will be more likely to enter the kitchen now 😅

  • @henrikgustav2294
    @henrikgustav2294 Рік тому

    your videos are relaxing. love your presentation and accent

  • @TheArcSet
    @TheArcSet Рік тому +2

    Interesting, I've actually done something like this for a long time, cooking onions with a lid on at the start, especially if I add some before I've finished all my chopping. I didn't know about the exposed sugars and proteins, but I figured that the rupturing was letting the water out more quickly.
    Thanks for this.

  • @ChrisM541
    @ChrisM541 6 місяців тому

    Thanks Helen, this is excellent.

  • @rebeccawillis9650
    @rebeccawillis9650 Рік тому +1

    Superb explanation! Thanks!

  • @lucaless6434
    @lucaless6434 Рік тому

    YES I love when one of my fave youtubers react to another one of my faves 💖

  • @bexxISM
    @bexxISM 11 місяців тому

    Love your videos. I've been doing this for decades. My sister's used to be aghast but my results spoke for themselves. I do it with a lot of veggies. THOUGH I do use my CAST IRION. I have one pan that I only wipe clean vs my virtually non stick one. I start at HIGH HEAT until water is gone then add additional Olive Oil ( or avacado) then turn to low. I'm done in 15-17 min for onions.

  • @BatPotatoes
    @BatPotatoes Рік тому +2

    I was waiting for this video. At the time I tried applying Lan's technique to your caramelized cabbage recipe but it ended up just extending the cook time by a fair bit since the extra liquid needed time to cook off. Then I realized your original recipe still used the stb principle since it starts covered with a lid

  • @scpatl4now
    @scpatl4now Рік тому +2

    I use this method with french cut green beans. I love them browned in olive oil and butter after the water has cooked off...done just before they are burnt

  • @karlbrooks7591
    @karlbrooks7591 11 місяців тому +1

    Dude I thought of this the other day and it worked so well so many times that I figured there’s no way I’m the first one who came up with it, hence my presence

  • @Epicdps
    @Epicdps Рік тому

    Very interesting tip for the cabbage steaming liquid!

  • @350FPS
    @350FPS Рік тому

    Great! I will give this technique a try. Thank you for sharing!😄😄

  • @jeschinstad
    @jeschinstad Місяць тому

    I guess the reason why steaming first is so much faster is that water transfers heat something like 25-30 times faster than air at the same temperature. I've never heard of or thought of steaming leek or cabbage. I'm very much looking forward to trying that! Thanks :)

  • @toddellner5283
    @toddellner5283 Рік тому +1

    Thank you for this very informative video.
    This has been my preferred method of caramelizing onions since I first heard about it from ATK.
    The other ingredient is baking soda which I first learned from food scientist Herve This as the anionic character of the soda helps the onions brown faster, lose their water more readily, and if memory serves softens cell wall earlier.

  • @panagea2007
    @panagea2007 24 дні тому

    I've always steamed my onions until soft and the water was gone, then added butter and sautéed for a minute or so longer. I don't caramelize them and they don't really brown, but now they are perfect to add to chili or soups. They are completely cooked but still have a texture. They are good in stuffing, too.

  • @galejohnson8086
    @galejohnson8086 Рік тому +3

    I have heard of a restaurant trick of browning bacon by first putting about 1/2 inch of water in the frying pan. After the water is cooked off, then the bacon browns

  • @pavelow235
    @pavelow235 Рік тому +1

    Glad you tackled this.

  • @tauceti8341
    @tauceti8341 Рік тому

    OMG helen that tomato gruyere onion tart looks amazing, my mom loves gruyere

  • @marksando3082
    @marksando3082 5 місяців тому

    I remember before I saw Lan Lam's video, I saw Lucas Sin's video about cooking mushrooms in water before browning them. It's a great technique! You also need less oil to brown the mushrooms since they're already pretty plump with water and don't absorb so much oil.

  • @WhirledPeas
    @WhirledPeas Рік тому +1

    There is another method to caramelize onions. Triple reduction. I learned this at a French restaurant when the chef came to our table to chat. I was very impressed with her caramelized onion and duck, so I asked her how did she cook the onions? And to my surprise she told me this: Sliced onions in a hot pan with a bit of oil, toss to coat. Salt. Watch the bottom of the pan, waiting for the juices to just exactly begin to caramelize. Immediately add just enough water to deglaze. Do this three times. 10 minutes. Done.

  • @PattiWinker
    @PattiWinker Місяць тому

    Button mushrooms! STB works like a charm. Never thought to use white wine. I will do that from now on. 👍👍 Thank you!

  • @fitlivejournaly4364
    @fitlivejournaly4364 Рік тому +1

    How great that I came across your video! THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS RECIPE. I love making caramelized onions for burgers and pizza but dreaded how long it took to make them. What kind of app are you using while you're cooking?

  • @bellstewart5687
    @bellstewart5687 Рік тому

    Replacing my handy pan. I have learned the value of the saying, "penny saved-pound foolish " here. Thank you 😊. Lady Bell

  • @HyperactiveNeuron
    @HyperactiveNeuron Рік тому

    I did see this and completely forgot about it. Thanks for reminding me! 😊
    This is like cooking bacon in a thin layer of water. It steams and provides it's own fat to fry in.

  • @perrywilliams5407
    @perrywilliams5407 Рік тому

    My wife and I like or green veggies crunchy, so STB would not do for us, except cabbage. I never thought about caramelizing cabbage, but your white wine tip is genius and will make caramelized cabbage the star of our veggie dumplings or eggrolls. Thanks so much for the info!

  • @bradcrosier1332
    @bradcrosier1332 Рік тому +3

    But why do I have to use water from America’s Test Kitchen? That’s a long drive for me - can I just use RO water from home? 😜
    Sorry, had to poke a little fun at the title - thans Helen for yet another great, informative video!

  • @sahej6939
    @sahej6939 Рік тому +2

    Yes, I love doing water sautee! I rarely oil sautee any veggies anymore… it’s been a thing in weight loss communities for awhile! I use oil for mushrooms b/c I like them dark

    • @lypanov
      @lypanov Рік тому

      Agreed. Doing this now for dietary reasons. No oil required as long as you've got a high quality non stick pan.

  • @mrkattm
    @mrkattm Рік тому +1

    I saw that American test kitchen video and I must say that I was surprised that this technique was not known, where I grew up in Michaigan that was the standard way you caramelized onions for French onion soup.

  • @jkbrown5496
    @jkbrown5496 Рік тому

    After seeing the ATK video and learning of steamed burgers in CT, I've been experimenting with steam, but very little water. I've found great use in defrosting and cooking a burger thick 10-16 oz patty of ground beef I keep in the freezer as well as an off the shelf frozen (19 oz) pack of brats. Just put in the pan with 1/2 oz (1Tbs) of water, salt and season the ground beef, then on high with cover on, go till you hear good steam production, then turn off the eye (resistance element glass top) and let it steam and cool. Water from the meat keep it from running dry. After 6 min the ground beef is about 60F, I often flip, then get the steam back up and turn off the heat again. After about 16 min total the meat is 160 F internal. I now, remove the meat, boil off the water and dip the grease, to let the dripping caramelize. I use to brown the meat in the hot pan but now I put the meat back in and brown the surface with a butane torch. Deglaze and off I go.
    The torch can be useful to speed browning of meat. The brat I sometimes cut up and put back in the pan with butter to brown up. I use the butane torch over the top to dry the pieces so they are ready to brown when flipped. Key to browning is getting the surface moisture off otherwise the temp on the food surface can't go above 212 F.
    This method is low attention and is a great way to defrost frozen foods. Also, in a crisis, it is low fuel.
    I should add, a little free (not in/on the food) water that will go to steam early is a good way to get the outside of all the food to 212 F fast. Then the steam will stop condensing on the food and dissipate when you remove the lid and you go right to higher heat browning/cooking.

  • @vMixMasterJayv
    @vMixMasterJayv Рік тому +8

    I have a follow up video idea for this that might be worth testing. I often pre cook my onions in the microwave before caramilising in the pan which results in very quick caramilised onions for my my Aussie Snags. To one large onion I use a 50/50 ratio of butter and olive oil at around 3-4 tablespoons of fat. My goal when doing this is to coat the onions in a thin film of fat and when the butter is room temp it works nicely. So I first add the butter and coat every slice of onion with a thin film of butter but just tossing them with my fingers then i repeat with oil. I use a combination of Salted butter and oil as I find this creates a nicely seasoned buttery flavour without being to strong compared to if you were to use only butter. I then putting the coated onions into the microwave to cook down for roughly 5 minutes or until semi soft but still retain their crunch. Then i brown them in a pan for 5-10 minutes at the most and endup with some very silky, buttery sweet onions that art great on a snag or burgers etc.
    The Reason i use the microwave for cooking onions and other vegtables is becuase microwave frequency targets the water molecule almost directly and bipassing the indirect energy transfer between the other plants cell structures that take more time to heat up. It very quickly breaks down the plant cells as the water inside them heats up from the inside causing them toy burst and letting out the water as steam that can then also acts to help steam the rest of the veggies. Ive tried this using onions, Broccali, and cabbage and the more solid mushrooms with great results. I have also tried it on Carrots and Celery with inconclusive results and dont do this with delecate mushrooms. Carrots seemed to take the same time or longer then steaming and boiling so i think the water content really matters for this method to work well. The more water in the plant i guess the better and faster this method works.
    I have only semi tested these methods while i've cooked my meals for meal prepping but never done proper measured side by side testing to know for sure if this is faster so i'd be very curious to see a video testing this method. Thanks for all of the amazing videos ive learns so many great tips watching your videos that keeps me in the kitchen longer then it probably should XD

    • @kettlebelle290
      @kettlebelle290 Рік тому

      My first thought was try microwaving them first! Glad to hear you have success with this method.

  • @PredictableEnigma
    @PredictableEnigma Рік тому

    This is an amazing video. Thank you so much for your hard work

  • @thapelo351
    @thapelo351 Рік тому +1

    For most veggies I use a stainless-steel saucepot with a stainless-steel steamer pot then brown with my rounded sauté pan. Great texture every time. I'm going to stick with the old method with onions since I usually caramelize them while cooking rice in an instant pot. Love your short hair

  • @vaazig
    @vaazig Рік тому +1

    Great method that can be done even faster by cranking up the heat initially.

  • @dougblalock5175
    @dougblalock5175 Рік тому

    Great idea, best way to cook dumplings also.