Great work here. This man knows his stuff. I’ve watched all the videos on UA-cam about these two sanders and this review is by far the best one I’ve seen. Honest and smart commentary and showing the sander on job actually. being used. Love the way you do it. Thanks again for making all the videos you do.
I just bought a mirka leros and a vacuum this morning. After one day of use I absolutely love it. We don’t do a whole lot of drywall work but the custom home we’re painting right now has a ton of nail pops that we had to redo after the Drywallers tried to fix them. They spent almost a week going around and patching up nail pops without setting the screw in and the walls looked like they had goosebumps all over them. We spent two days sanding by hand and after the second day I said screw this I’m buying a Mirka.
I have used the festool with their vac for years. I bought the Mirka after watching your video. Now I only bring out the Festool to knock down heavy texture.
My ceilings have a pretty heavy texture and I'm thinking of sanding it down in my house but didn't want to make a huge mess. How clean is that process using a vac and sander like this?
Thank you for the review. I've been debating which one to get and you clarified a few things really good .I know what you mean by seeing things too well it's like natural light on a wall that you thought was good and realize how incredibly imperfect drywall can be. 😂
Damn. You don't ramble bro - you teach like you were born to do it! I wish you were here in vancouver wa. I've done a bit of drywall work but not enough to get where I need to be. I do construction/remodeling and I'm tired of not being confident in my drywall skills. I'm dedicated enough to this career to cause me to go to one of the local drywall companies and work for a year or more until I am competent. Anyway nice work sir !
Great review! Personally I own the mirka and the mirka vacuum and it work perfectly I buy it 2 years ago and I'm totally satisfied. I use 150 grid for finish and 120 grid for sanding 45 or 20 min hot mud. The fact that the head moove 180° make huge difference in my opinion like you demonstrated in your video. The dust control is exceptional, even when you pass on coner bead with half the head on the wall. This electric sanders is a beast and I will never return to the festool in fact at the beginning like 7 years from now u was using the Porter-Cable 😅
The mirka is an amazing machine. Where festool is the clear winner is in vacuums my ct 36 sucks a lot harder than mirka. I run my mirka on my festool vac
Thanks brother have an updated review after using it for a couple years on my recent vids. ua-cam.com/video/drpCLihytY0/v-deo.html Thanks for watching.
Awesome! So basically both have their place and it’s just a matter of choice then. I just ordered the Festool unit. It’s my very first ever drywall sander. I’m excited and can’t wait to receive it.
Congratulations remember there's a slight learning curve so practice on walls that are still getting coated to avoid having to touch up the finish. A soft pad is highly recommended.
I love your clear comparison of the two. My stress was if I can attach Mirka sander to festool vac so seeing this video, it means i can use any vac. Verdict: i will buy festool sander and vac and as time goes on, add the Mirka leros sander to the collection. Thanks alot
Thank you for the video. One of the best videos out there comparing the two. I’ll be pulling a trigger on the Mirka and just put an LED strip around the head which should make it comparable to the Festool. Thank you.
No problem brother proir to this video festool hadn't come out with the soft pad replacement. Now with it it ties with the Mirka. The biggest difference is the head movement for level 5 Mirka is preferred but everything else the festool is a bit faster and cleaner. The are more recent comparisons on the channel hope it helps.
The light is no joke. One of the jobs I used the 2 on was a float job where somebody else had started, and I knew it had issues but when I put the 2 to it to take out some of the problems before I floated it I was like damn this stuff is jacked up. I'm getting along well with the 2 and it reinforces how crappy the OG was. Also in my area a extension that also has room for 1 more to fit in the box is 238. USD but you have that island tax. If you want to get similar lighting on the Mirka there are some vids where people added led strips around the head to their old Planex. Doable for the Mirka.
The festool vacuum is night and day difference compared to the one your using. Its what makes the product. The suction holds the vac on the ceilings you exert virtually no physical pressure on it while doing ceilings. I urge you to find a festool vac you could test out to see the difference
This is correct, it also keeps the interface pad level. Another thing, is you have to stick the old planex interface pad over the top of the new interface pad, this will give you a level 5 finish.
I have both and the last model planex. The newest planex has come a long way from previous models but in no way is better or easier to use than the mirka. The mirka is an amazing machine for finish sanding. It’s terrible for removing painted old texture. It tends to over heat. The planex is better for that kind of work but when it comes to finish work mirka is the clear winner😊
To diminish some stress on your shoulders, since you use also the Hilti (red version of the Mirka) sander, talk to your Hilti rep. I know that they make an exoskeletal whatchamacalit that helps working over head. I would be interested in seeing you test it. Thanks for the videos.
Aloha Memo just a quick idea share. There are LED rope/strip cell lights sold per foot which can be easily mounted around Mirka’s head to get same if not even better light. As always “you get what you payed for” so maybe this time we should look for a best quality LED lights and even then they do not cost a fortune. With little bit of your ingenuity, which you definitely do have, they will be up in no time shining through the eternity of dust clouds. Thought to share, it might help. 🤙 👽
I have old festool planex wich broke down today and we need a new one and on a table we have planex 2 and mirca leros. Since im not that young anymore im considering to have the mirca because of 180 so you dont have to do so much acrobatics as you would do with the festool. Old planex is 8kg also wich is damn heavy. Great review.
Thanks brother I would reach out to hilti and see if they could set up a sample to the new sander it's identical to the Mirka but backed by a better warranty.
@@csdrywallhawaii Been using Leros now for couple days, id say this is a solid tool. Its not heavy at all, and i love the 180 degree angle. You do have to be very careful when starting or you will burn in some marks and got to do some repairs, but in general i love it. Dust collection is very solid and the surface with 150 net, is very nice indeed.
I have the Dewalt sander with the hepa vac and I love it. Paid for itself easily, minimal hand sanding and clean up saves many hours. I still wear my respirator, but it makes for a cleaner and more comfortable day. I use the new 4ah batteries to cut down the weight
Thanks for the video, I wish I could justify getting a Mirka! What do you recommend for a DIYer who needs to put all new drywall in multiple rooms? I have a vacuum hand sander and I love how there's no dust, but it takes a good amount of time and effort for even small jobs. Thinking of getting a WEN pole sander.
Yup switching the level really makes a difference especially for walls. You don't want the suction to be full blast cuz then... Thanks for watching brother 🤙🏽
In my opinion festool planex is the best sender for closets And ceiling l use stilts when I do ceilings I love festool the perfect professional sender plus have light 👏👏
Question for you, I run an engraving machine that creates a lot of fine dust and would like to have your opinion on what dust collection system is best for handling drywall dust?
Ya, the mirka bag sucks, the zipper is screwed on mine, that's why I built a case for it, but it's a bit heavy. My partner has the festool extractor, I wouldn't worry about buying one if your happy with your dewalt, this thing doesn't hold up a sander to the ceiling either. I'm sticking with mirka, it's the best. Thanks for the review, take care. Oh, you didn't mention how the random orbital works, one guy says it leaves swirls..........
It leaves swirls like crazy on the lowest setting with 180 granet, or with Mirka 180 abranet, the leros doesn't leave any marks even with 120 abranet, but the festool granet has better suction than abranet
I kind of thought that if your ceiling taping was done right, you wouldn’t have to sand? Also, don’t you worry if you sand to much, you be down to the tape paper? I assume you have to be very careful.
I just finished two lvl 5 finish jobs and my quality went downhill when I used the new Festool. It leaves marks that I also noticed in the video, even at the super low settings it leaves it. the vid you made is 100% I agree now can you make a video of who has a better finish, because they still not as good as a 360 pole sander when it comes to finish. The sanding area on the tool is not completely flat if u look at it sideways, it's also way too hard and got no padding.
Ya, mirka with 240 grit o level 5, sooooooo smooth finish, your almost happy to see a imperfections, because you think your going snow blind not seeing any marks......😂
That hose looks like a smaller diameter than the festool planex hose. That's probably why it doesn't have the same suction. The ct36ac only has 137cfm. So there must be some kind of restriction.
Renovation contractor, so do drywall as needed - new to electric sander and debating on which one to purchase. In your opinion, which would you purchase if needed a one for all application?
I think the festool would fit better under that category just remember to use paded sand paper for the finner finishes or hopefully they release a soft pad. I won't recommend the Mirka for Heavy-Duty sanding ( popcorn removal).
I have easy planex and the 2 as well, and I tried mirka too, may be cuz I am used to, but i like festool 2 better, the only thing I don't like about mirka and festool is the rpm, porter cable is way better and do fast that I use for top and skim coat and the festool 2 with ultra soft pad for nice smooth finish
What's happening Brother I got my Planex 2 on 5/18/21. At the place I bought it they had a demo and I tried it out. It works great but you have to have the Festool CT-36 HEPA vacuum because it makes the Planex feel very light and it's Sands great. You will understand once you buy that vacuum. Peace brother
@@csdrywallhawaii Some Festool Dealerships do have a demo program. That may be a way for you to see if that Festool CT 36AC or CT 48AC will work for your business uses.
Aloha, C&S hope all is well. I finally picked up my sander I ended up with the Hilti. It was tough choice since Im a big Festool sander fan. The 180 sanding action is what pushed me over to the mirka/hilti. The one thing I am underwhelmed with is the dust collection so far. Im going to pick up some mesh discs and see if that helps but the one thing I notice is the dust port on the sander seems pretty small and is a bit of a choking point. Its not a huge issue in new builds but when working in finished spaces the dust collection becomes a lot more important. Couple questions 1. the hilti comes with a pad saver, Im assuming thats only needed when using the mesh discs? 2. Has anyone found the best disc/pad combo for maximum dust collection? 3. Does anyone make paper discs that match the hole pattern of the mirka/hilti? Im not sure if I would be better off with mesh disc and pad saver or paper disc with no pad saver. 4. Do you prefer the finish results with or without the pad saver?
I wonder if anything changed since then. Because I think they didn't have interference pads at first. Not sure if you had an opportunity to play it with it or not. Thank you
The new bosch is more comparable to the festool easy sander the new feestool and Hilti/Mirka are both random orbital spinning heads (helps reduce swirling). That and the Bosch not having a light would be the biggest difference. Suction looks good from the videos I have seen overall I would compare it to my dewalt sander.
The light isn’t really a big deal for me, because when I put on my top layer of mud, I bring a light around with me at that stage, so there’s no surprises later on when i sand. Mirka looks like it’s still #1.
My first festool drywall vacum broke down THREE times in year 3-4. You said you were running strong for 6 years with that dewalt?? Im looking into that Dewalt tomorrow
do u think festool will make a soft interface pad for it? and do they offer a finer grid then 200.. I just bought it, and notice scratches on plus 3 mud.. cheers 🍻
Yes the adapters are included might need a different adapter at the base of vaccum depending on what vaccum you using but the adapter fr9m hose to sander is included.
Going off of previous C&S videos I'm gonna say neither of these are really fit for popcorn removal. The rotating sanders handle that better then the random orbitals. Though if you're (like me) not in the market for multiple 1000 dollar tools I reckon either of these with a courser grit will manage. If you are then Festool also does a rotating Planex for about half the price of this one.
@@bobseguin2195 I plan on getting the Mirka and keeping my Porter cable sander for rougher texture. I would never use either for removing popcorn, wetting it down and scraping it is so much faster.
@@michaelcarson4887 I've used it for finish sanding as well, works, but not a smooth to operate as the mirka, but would get it again before the festool........
I think its time to upgrade that Dewalt dust extractor anyways. That Dewalt is pretty much hated by all and it looks like you got your monies worth out of it.. Might as well get the CT36AC now and see if that helps the Festool overhead. Thing with Festool is they do a pretty good job engineering their stuff to work together so That CT36AC could change the game for the Festool and if not they have a good 30 day trial. I thought I had my mind made up to get the Festool Planex 2 but now Im second guessing that. Thanks and thumbs up as always.
The Festool 2 paired with the AC 36 is great. I was going to buy the Mirka but figured with Festool 30 day return policy I'd give the 2 a shot. I like the 2 a lot but nothing is ever perfect so we all make compromises on these things.
@@csdrywallhawaii I did send Festool an Email a few days ago asking them to check out your channel and letting them know you had one of if not the best drywall channels and suggested they offer you some support (ct 36 ac) doubt it will work but you never know. good luck.
I know it may seem this is a safety nag, but - hearing protection, come on. With both the vac and the sander for extended periods, so bad. The damage to your ears is slow and accumulative and before you know it you have not only hearing loss but constant ringing in your eats that there is no cure for.
You and Vancouver Carpenter are the best when it comes to content.
Thanks brother 🤙🏽
Great work here. This man knows his stuff.
I’ve watched all the videos on UA-cam about these two sanders and this review is by far the best one I’ve seen. Honest and smart commentary and showing the sander on job actually. being used.
Love the way you do it. Thanks again for making all the videos you do.
Thanks for all the kind words brother hope your doing great.
I just bought a mirka leros and a vacuum this morning. After one day of use I absolutely love it. We don’t do a whole lot of drywall work but the custom home we’re painting right now has a ton of nail pops that we had to redo after the Drywallers tried to fix them. They spent almost a week going around and patching up nail pops without setting the screw in and the walls looked like they had goosebumps all over them. We spent two days sanding by hand and after the second day I said screw this I’m buying a Mirka.
Really great practical review with lots of details. Thank you for this! Awesome job!
Thanks brother 🤙🏽
Excellent real world review, very useful and much appreciated. Thanks!
Awesome glad it helped
I have used the festool with their vac for years. I bought the Mirka after watching your video. Now I only bring out the Festool to knock down heavy texture.
Ya that's one thing the Mirka can't handle.
My ceilings have a pretty heavy texture and I'm thinking of sanding it down in my house but didn't want to make a huge mess. How clean is that process using a vac and sander like this?
appreciate your review, im just starting on my own & i have never used these wasn’t sure what to look for
Glad I could help
Great comparison. Thank you for your time. 👍👍
Awesome thanks Stuart
Thank you for the review. I've been debating which one to get and you clarified a few things really good .I know what you mean by seeing things too well it's like natural light on a wall that you thought was good and realize how incredibly imperfect drywall can be. 😂
No problem 🤙🏽
Man that was a really good comparison. Thanks for the info.
Iam doing an updated review after using both for some time now stay tune.
Damn. You don't ramble bro - you teach like you were born to do it! I wish you were here in vancouver wa. I've done a bit of drywall work but not enough to get where I need to be. I do construction/remodeling and I'm tired of not being confident in my drywall skills. I'm dedicated enough to this career to cause me to go to one of the local drywall companies and work for a year or more until I am competent. Anyway nice work sir !
Thanks brother means alot best way to learn is just keep at it do it enough and you'll learn for your mistakes.
Great review! Personally I own the mirka and the mirka vacuum and it work perfectly I buy it 2 years ago and I'm totally satisfied. I use 150 grid for finish and 120 grid for sanding 45 or 20 min hot mud. The fact that the head moove 180° make huge difference in my opinion like you demonstrated in your video. The dust control is exceptional, even when you pass on coner bead with half the head on the wall. This electric sanders is a beast and I will never return to the festool in fact at the beginning like 7 years from now u was using the Porter-Cable 😅
The mirka is an amazing machine. Where festool is the clear winner is in vacuums my ct 36 sucks a lot harder than mirka. I run my mirka on my festool vac
Great rewiew. I have worked with both and can only say the same. Still waiting for Mirka with light feature.
Thank you for information on these Sanders, your a pro.
Thanks brother have an updated review after using it for a couple years on my recent vids. ua-cam.com/video/drpCLihytY0/v-deo.html
Thanks for watching.
Awesome! So basically both have their place and it’s just a matter of choice then. I just ordered the Festool unit. It’s my very first ever drywall sander. I’m excited and can’t wait to receive it.
Congratulations remember there's a slight learning curve so practice on walls that are still getting coated to avoid having to touch up the finish. A soft pad is highly recommended.
@@csdrywallhawaii Thank you and thanks for the advice.
Throw an extra interface pad on (the old planex pad) to prevent the screws from digging into your drywall.
I love your clear comparison of the two. My stress was if I can attach Mirka sander to festool vac so seeing this video, it means i can use any vac. Verdict: i will buy festool sander and vac and as time goes on, add the Mirka leros sander to the collection. Thanks alot
ua-cam.com/video/drpCLihytY0/v-deo.html make shure to buy the pad saver makes a huge difference for dine finishes🤙🏽
Hi there
New to your channel, very informative review, thanks for the time and effort from here in the uk.
Awesome thanks for watching
Thank you for the video. One of the best videos out there comparing the two. I’ll be pulling a trigger on the Mirka and just put an LED strip around the head which should make it comparable to the Festool. Thank you.
No problem brother proir to this video festool hadn't come out with the soft pad replacement. Now with it it ties with the Mirka. The biggest difference is the head movement for level 5 Mirka is preferred but everything else the festool is a bit faster and cleaner. The are more recent comparisons on the channel hope it helps.
I’ll check them out. Thank you again. Very good info.
Cool light idea.
The light is no joke. One of the jobs I used the 2 on was a float job where somebody else had started, and I knew it had issues but when I put the 2 to it to take out some of the problems before I floated it I was like damn this stuff is jacked up. I'm getting along well with the 2 and it reinforces how crappy the OG was.
Also in my area a extension that also has room for 1 more to fit in the box is 238. USD but you have that island tax.
If you want to get similar lighting on the Mirka there are some vids where people added led strips around the head to their old Planex. Doable for the Mirka.
Awesome thanks for the insight ya I seen a couple never got around to playing with the led strip.
The L.E.D. strip is the only way to go
The festool vacuum is night and day difference compared to the one your using. Its what makes the product. The suction holds the vac on the ceilings you exert virtually no physical pressure on it while doing ceilings. I urge you to find a festool vac you could test out to see the difference
This is correct, it also keeps the interface pad level.
Another thing, is you have to stick the old planex interface pad over the top of the new interface pad, this will give you a level 5 finish.
I do post construction cleaning would that festool vacuum be very good for the dust or does it only work with the grinder ?
@@Torontogtacleanersit works great for job site clean up. The ct36 vac is fantastic
Nice channel and good review
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I have both and the last model planex. The newest planex has come a long way from previous models but in no way is better or easier to use than the mirka. The mirka is an amazing machine for finish sanding. It’s terrible for removing painted old texture. It tends to over heat. The planex is better for that kind of work but when it comes to finish work mirka is the clear winner😊
💯 agree🤙🏽
I agree, the light is almost to good.. 😆.. because u notice the scratches as well that the tool makes...
To diminish some stress on your shoulders, since you use also the Hilti (red version of the Mirka) sander, talk to your Hilti rep. I know that they make an exoskeletal whatchamacalit that helps working over head. I would be interested in seeing you test it. Thanks for the videos.
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Thanks Pratrick here's a link to that video we were able to sample it on site.
Aloha Memo just a quick idea share. There are LED rope/strip cell lights sold per foot which can be easily mounted around Mirka’s head to get same if not even better light. As always “you get what you payed for” so maybe this time we should look for a best quality LED lights and even then they do not cost a fortune. With little bit of your ingenuity, which you definitely do have, they will be up in no time shining through the eternity of dust clouds. Thought to share, it might help. 🤙 👽
Awesome I would totally reshare a how to if you make one let me know. Thanks for the idea 💡.
Is there a soft pad for the festool easy because mine leaves swirl marks really bad especially on corner bead and burns to the tap really bad
I use Festool original for the power to remove popcorn and rough surfaces and Mirka for fine finish.
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Sounds like a great set up 🤙🏽
Thanks for the vid
I have old festool planex wich broke down today and we need a new one and on a table we have planex 2 and mirca leros. Since im not that young anymore im considering to have the mirca because of 180 so you dont have to do so much acrobatics as you would do with the festool. Old planex is 8kg also wich is damn heavy. Great review.
Thanks brother I would reach out to hilti and see if they could set up a sample to the new sander it's identical to the Mirka but backed by a better warranty.
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@@csdrywallhawaii Been using Leros now for couple days, id say this is a solid tool. Its not heavy at all, and i love the 180 degree angle. You do have to be very careful when starting or you will burn in some marks and got to do some repairs, but in general i love it. Dust collection is very solid and the surface with 150 net, is very nice indeed.
Awesome brother 🤙🏽
Enjoyed watching the comparison Memo! Interested to know how the Dewalt compared as well.....for those of us who cant justify the big boy toys.
Not only DeWalt but Makita also came up with wall sander. I'm also interested to see how they compare to Festool and Mirka.
I have the Dewalt sander with the hepa vac and I love it. Paid for itself easily, minimal hand sanding and clean up saves many hours. I still wear my respirator, but it makes for a cleaner and more comfortable day. I use the new 4ah batteries to cut down the weight
@@AndrewShafer will do thanks Ed
Thanks for the video, I wish I could justify getting a Mirka! What do you recommend for a DIYer who needs to put all new drywall in multiple rooms?
I have a vacuum hand sander and I love how there's no dust, but it takes a good amount of time and effort for even small jobs. Thinking of getting a WEN pole sander.
Look in to the dewalt sander if you want a solid entry level sander.
Thanks for the review. Are you switching the green lever on the head over from wall to ceiling? Changes the vacuum assist for suction.
Yup switching the level really makes a difference especially for walls. You don't want the suction to be full blast cuz then... Thanks for watching brother 🤙🏽
In my opinion festool planex is the best sender for closets And ceiling l use stilts when I do ceilings I love festool the perfect professional sender plus have light 👏👏
I use it the same way. Shortest configuration and just get on stilts.
Question for you, I run an engraving machine that creates a lot of fine dust and would like to have your opinion on what dust collection system is best for handling drywall dust?
So far the hilti has been the best that I have used.
And also when i sand cellings i got very powerful flex vac and i tell u it stays on celling all the time im just guiding it
Ya, the mirka bag sucks, the zipper is screwed on mine, that's why I built a case for it, but it's a bit heavy. My partner has the festool extractor, I wouldn't worry about buying one if your happy with your dewalt, this thing doesn't hold up a sander to the ceiling either. I'm sticking with mirka, it's the best. Thanks for the review, take care.
Oh, you didn't mention how the random orbital works, one guy says it leaves swirls..........
It leaves swirls like crazy on the lowest setting with 180 granet, or with Mirka 180 abranet, the leros doesn't leave any marks even with 120 abranet, but the festool granet has better suction than abranet
I kind of thought that if your ceiling taping was done right, you wouldn’t have to sand? Also, don’t you worry if you sand to much, you be down to the tape paper? I assume you have to be very careful.
Dunno about the mirka but the quality i do with festool is out of this world they have a new soft pads for the head and its just uncomparable...
Good vid man👍
I just finished two lvl 5 finish jobs and my quality went downhill when I used the new Festool. It leaves marks that I also noticed in the video, even at the super low settings it leaves it. the vid you made is 100% I agree now can you make a video of who has a better finish, because they still not as good as a 360 pole sander when it comes to finish. The sanding area on the tool is not completely flat if u look at it sideways, it's also way too hard and got no padding.
I know what you mean I feel the Mirka is alot more forgiving is that sense. You can dail it in better to get a nice finish.
Ya, mirka with 240 grit o level 5, sooooooo smooth finish, your almost happy to see a imperfections, because you think your going snow blind not seeing any marks......😂
That hose looks like a smaller diameter than the festool planex hose. That's probably why it doesn't have the same suction. The ct36ac only has 137cfm. So there must be some kind of restriction.
Renovation contractor, so do drywall as needed - new to electric sander and debating on which one to purchase. In your opinion, which would you purchase if needed a one for all application?
I think the festool would fit better under that category just remember to use paded sand paper for the finner finishes or hopefully they release a soft pad. I won't recommend the Mirka for Heavy-Duty sanding ( popcorn removal).
What about the festool vacuum they are best for dust free
I ve tested a mirka once. I think it is heavy at the top. and it is to loud. vibrate a bit strong aswell.
It does the job.
I have easy planex and the 2 as well, and I tried mirka too, may be cuz I am used to, but i like festool 2 better, the only thing I don't like about mirka and festool is the rpm, porter cable is way better and do fast that I use for top and skim coat and the festool 2 with ultra soft pad for nice smooth finish
By the way i stick to dewalt vacum too
What's happening Brother I got my Planex 2 on 5/18/21. At the place I bought it they had a demo and I tried it out. It works great but you have to have the Festool CT-36 HEPA vacuum because it makes the Planex feel very light and it's Sands great. You will understand once you buy that vacuum. Peace brother
Thanks for the insight probably ask for a sample and see how it goes.
@@csdrywallhawaii Some Festool Dealerships do have a demo program. That may be a way for you to see if that Festool CT 36AC or CT 48AC will work for your business uses.
@csdrywallhawaii so if I get the Mirka, i can get adapter to hook up to my fein vacuum? Great info by the way
Yes you can!
Never knew this kind of tool existed, now I'm wondering if you could use it to sand hard wood floor
Can the feestool would work alot better for that since it's more aggressive.
Mirka: 240grit #4 setting. Sands like a dream. I think I want to try the led rope light idea, from the comments.
Let me know how it goes thanks for watching
I thought I was a solid finisher before I bought that festool I now realize I suck 😅 that dam light is to good.
I'm removing popcorn ceiling and making it flat. What will be the best to have if I want to buy only one sender: cordless Dewalt or Mirka?
The feestool planex 2 would be best for that the Mirka is more geared towards fine finish.
Aloha, C&S hope all is well. I finally picked up my sander I ended up with the Hilti. It was tough choice since Im a big Festool sander fan. The 180 sanding action is what pushed me over to the mirka/hilti. The one thing I am underwhelmed with is the dust collection so far. Im going to pick up some mesh discs and see if that helps but the one thing I notice is the dust port on the sander seems pretty small and is a bit of a choking point. Its not a huge issue in new builds but when working in finished spaces the dust collection becomes a lot more important. Couple questions 1. the hilti comes with a pad saver, Im assuming thats only needed when using the mesh discs? 2. Has anyone found the best disc/pad combo for maximum dust collection? 3. Does anyone make paper discs that match the hole pattern of the mirka/hilti? Im not sure if I would be better off with mesh disc and pad saver or paper disc with no pad saver. 4. Do you prefer the finish results with or without the pad saver?
Ya the festool suction is better but I can't sand fine finish with it without the pad saver which makes it the same as hilti but heavier.
Cant beat mesh pads but I use 220 grit.
I use a cheap sander with halo light.
1/10th the price of festool...same result
Try the abranet stuff
Which one gets closer to wall when sanding angles? That way when you pole sand the angle you won't sand as much.
Use flushers or angle heads with properly mixed mud and technique and wouldn’t need to sand as much
Both are about the same can kill the edge but still got the pole sand to eliminate the lap marks closer to the inside corner.
I wonder if anything changed since then. Because I think they didn't have interference pads at first. Not sure if you had an opportunity to play it with it or not. Thank you
The festool works great with the new soft pads but I still feel the hilti is way easier to sand ceilings with because if the head movement
When you're trying to show the gouge, you should use the Festool light!
Would these be good for sanding off old yellowing varnish, say for thee interior walls of a log home ?
IDK but I think the Feestool would work best.
Could you do a comparison review with the planex and the new Bosch GTR? the price difference is almost double and I’d like to know why
The new bosch is more comparable to the festool easy sander the new feestool and Hilti/Mirka are both random orbital spinning heads (helps reduce swirling). That and the Bosch not having a light would be the biggest difference. Suction looks good from the videos I have seen overall I would compare it to my dewalt sander.
The light isn’t really a big deal for me, because when I put on my top layer of mud, I bring a light around with me at that stage, so there’s no surprises later on when i sand. Mirka looks like it’s still #1.
The light is a game changer, you don’t realise until you try it.
My first festool drywall vacum broke down THREE times in year 3-4. You said you were running strong for 6 years with that dewalt?? Im looking into that Dewalt tomorrow
The dewalt still going till this day.
do u think festool will make a soft interface pad for it? and do they offer a finer grid then 200.. I just bought it, and notice scratches on plus 3 mud.. cheers 🍻
I know what you mean brother I sampled it with the joest yellow pad 150 and it sands way nicer than with the festool paper but gets less suction.
Festool , Granat sand paper goes up to 320 grit for the Planex There is also 3rd party sand paper for companies such as all-wall.com
I got the new interface pads and they are so good there is no swirl marks and do perfect quality
How straight is the side of the Mirka's head?
Because I'm seeing a ten dollar led strip upgrade happening when I buy mine..
It has a bit of an angle, let me know if a led strip works for you.......
Yup let us know
Have you tried mounting your Milwaukee grover 12 volt light to the Mirka?
Also what kinda of glue did you use to attach the plate on the Mirka?
Yes, awesome light but to heavy for this application I used gorilla glue construction adhesive.
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So will this hose fit into Hilti drywall sander and Mirka drywall sander? I have it in my amazon cart and just wanted to know before buying
Yes the adapters are included might need a different adapter at the base of vaccum depending on what vaccum you using but the adapter fr9m hose to sander is included.
Thank you for this amazing review, how were you able to fit the Mirka on just any vacuum? My rep told me that you must have the mirca vac.
Just got to shop around online for the adapter. Here's a link to the hose used on the video.
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Hi just wondering is the festool random orbit like the mirka
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hello guy made a very good video tell me where you bought such a lantern on mirka
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After a year which one you use the most?
The hilti gets the most use.
Hi ,the Mirka Leros S come with light
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No light but you can add one.
Is the festool random orbital ?
Yes
Any sideways light will show up everything
Does anyone have problems with mirca soft pads they don't last long 😔
Yup got to have extras on hand they can only be readjusted a handful of times before they 👎
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Do you prefer your DeWalt now?
We use the dewalt cordless the most for brush down.
Just noticed your truck's steering wheel is on the wrong side. Either that or your camera is flipping the image.
Ya its the camera flipping stuff around
@10:00 i swear he's holding the festool directly overhead and again @11:30 or am i crazy.
Is the festol the only one that can handle popcorn?
Going off of previous C&S videos I'm gonna say neither of these are really fit for popcorn removal.
The rotating sanders handle that better then the random orbitals.
Though if you're (like me) not in the market for multiple 1000 dollar tools I reckon either of these with a courser grit will manage.
If you are then Festool also does a rotating Planex for about half the price of this one.
If all you want to do is remove old texture, look at the Wen sander, Chinese made, a fraction of the price..........
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I plan on getting the Mirka and keeping my Porter cable sander for rougher texture. I would never use either for removing popcorn, wetting it down and scraping it is so much faster.
@@bobseguin2195 I would like something I could do both with. But will look into that.
Thanks!
@@michaelcarson4887 I've used it for finish sanding as well, works, but not a smooth to operate as the mirka, but would get it again before the festool........
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Man..what da heck ya hidin in dat wall brah? Aloha !
Haha I passed on that job😱🤙🏽
I’m confused 9:28 can’t do it but 11:38 now is possible 😅
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I think its time to upgrade that Dewalt dust extractor anyways. That Dewalt is pretty much hated by all and it looks like you got your monies worth out of it.. Might as well get the CT36AC now and see if that helps the Festool overhead. Thing with Festool is they do a pretty good job engineering their stuff to work together so That CT36AC could change the game for the Festool and if not they have a good 30 day trial. I thought I had my mind made up to get the Festool Planex 2 but now Im second guessing that. Thanks and thumbs up as always.
Actually, Would someone at Festool please send this guy a CT36AC....
The Festool 2 paired with the AC 36 is great. I was going to buy the Mirka but figured with Festool 30 day return policy I'd give the 2 a shot. I like the 2 a lot but nothing is ever perfect so we all make compromises on these things.
Hahaha thanks for the support brother
Yup going to see if I can sample one.
@@csdrywallhawaii I did send Festool an Email a few days ago asking them to check out your channel and letting them know you had one of if not the best drywall channels and suggested they offer you some support (ct 36 ac) doubt it will work but you never know. good luck.
Festool starts lagging behind. New companies are getting more innovative.
The more it sucks itself in. The more it drags, the more it drags, the more it vibrates, the more it vibrates the more it chatters.
Apoco hay Mexicanos en Hawaii?? No mames andamos por todo lados 😂
Too many ads man..
The longer the video the more ads part of the UA-cam experience 😂🤙🏽
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I know it may seem this is a safety nag, but - hearing protection, come on. With both the vac and the sander for extended periods, so bad. The damage to your ears is slow and accumulative and before you know it you have not only hearing loss but constant ringing in your eats that there is no cure for.
Thanks brother words of wisdom. I really should start wearing ear protection.
Funny how all the cheap $100 drywall sanders have LED lights and these really expensive ones are only just coming out with LED lights.
can i have email sir ?? i want buy