What a debut night project! We're not going to forget this one. And hey, if you're over here from Night Mind giving this a shot--thank you! More scripted NM main videos being worked on right now. ::3 Btw, I've joined up with Gamer Supps! You can save 10% with code 'NM', I've even got my own link, and both the code and link support me: gamersupps.gg/NM And let's not forget debut merch: merch.kawaentertainment.com/collections/nick-nocturne NM Twitch: www.twitch.tv/nick_nocturne
Good lord, how did you edit all this??? I enjoyed this format a lot. It was fun seeing your reactions in real time with the usual format intertwined. I'd love to see more!
You’re an absolute inspiration, your mediums evolution and your process. I can’t wait for the day this channel eclipses your main, I can hear the authentic smile beyond the mic.
I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt: I'm an artist, usually draw with charcoal, and one of the hardest things to learn is to stand back, look at the big picture and say when it's time to stop. Because your work can never be 1:1 with the image you have of it in your head, but there is a point where you have to know you've done all you can do. I hope the creator of HiMH learns that lesson from his work, or else it'll only get worse.
Honestly, if it ended at the first reveal, with Anthony saying that there will be no more uploads and handing over the channel to the police, I think this ARG would have been sooooo much better, and so much more interesting as a case study to what it seems it was trying to say.
I feel like I witnessed the entire birth and creation of the statue of david, fully glossed and pristine and beautiful… Then immediately followed up with seeing a random group of Logan Paul vlogers having a pi55ing contest on the statue, then BLOWING the statue up for a gender reveal party
@@NickNocturneAL I can’t believe im seeing this now but yeahh I was uhh.. a little upset , one may even say displeased, passionately peeved perhaps, pastry dough :3
@@Xaintrix Aw thank u lol i genuinely appreciate that ^^! Ngl this stream’s kinda been in the back of my mind cuz I thought maybe I was being too mean lmao ( TwT)
This series was like a roller-coaster. Awesome in the beginning, exciting, getting ready to have a great time. Then you go downhill after the first peak, but this is a roller-coaster for young kids at a state fair so it peters out quickly and you're stuck going around and around going over tiny hills with no end in sight
Spoilers warning for anyone looking at the comments before the end of the VOD At around 1:16:20 when Anthony was analysing the video descriptions, I had a thought that maybe the idea was going to be that the project was about an unfiction character becoming self-aware. But that's the thing though, I started to think it was about a _character_ going off the rails while being trapped in a deliberately-poorly-written story, as things progressed, I thought the reveal would be that Dr. Tanner and the other guy would be the creators, trying to get their characters back on track. But the ultimate ending, with Anthony and Hollis droning on about "sending the audience a message" was convoluted and seemed desperate to prove itself as cleverer than it actually was or even needed to be. The idea of "The twist is that it's a messy and unsatisfying unfiction project" had so much potential, but they took too long to get there. And I get it - knowing how to pace a mystery and how to insert foreshadowing in a way that provides substantial clues without giving the game away are arguably the biggest challenges of writing a story. I get the impression the real creators of the project got so invested in it that they lost the forest for the trees; they could have benefitted from some peer review to help them keep things in perspective and simplify things down a bit - and there's no shame in that - a good, honest peer review is often essential to making artistic projects of many different types work.
"Dudebro finding out that mental illness isn't like what he sees on TV" is not what I expected out of this video. But here we are. For a kid living with his parents he sure does say "MY property" a lot. Putting aside that this is supposed to be a teenager I think? The thing that was jarring to me was how the therapist didn't seem to know the names of his patient's parents. And just accepted the fake names without question. That seems kind of poorly written to me.
Four-eyed demon cat: This isn't the norm. Me: Is anyone tuning in expecting norms to be reinforced? Seriously though, as someone who's watched everything on the NightMind channel, I really enjoyed this format as well. I'm not a big fan of livestreams, but this is great. I appreciate the work put into editing and not having loud noises for subs and stuff making it a worse vod experience and taking away from the content you're analyzing. If this is what we can expect for this series I'm in!Love what you do, Nick, and congrats on the evolution to buff and a bit batty.
Thank you! I realized while everyone isn't about livestreams (or able to make it to them), they can still absolutely enjoy the experience recorded as long as it's properly designed for it. So, if I can still bring more Night Mind this way with a bit of preparation and proper editing, I'll do so! ::3 I really appreciate this message, thanks again!
I’m gonna be perfectly honest, your model combined with your silky smooth voice definitely distracted me multiple times and I had to rewind to actually process the video itself
It's been... a week? A few weeks?? (what even is time) since the debut and I haven't STOPPED thinking about Hiding In My Home. I can't stop thinking about how I really loved the artful take the original videos had. I can't stop thinking about how good of a twist the first discovery actually was. I can't stop thinking about what this story COULD have been. And worst of all, I can't stop thinking about how frustrated and disappointed in me as the audience member the creators seemed to be telling us they were at the very end, when they were chiding us either for playing along with something dangerous or for falling for an obvious fake storyline like... the TONE the creators took in the last leg of the series comes off as bitter and resentful and I have genuinely no idea if the creators realize that's how they sound at the end. I think that's why you should never try to get presumptive about what your viewership is actually thinking - if you find a thought process or something in the comments specifically and get frustrated with it, then project that onto everyone else, then other viewers just kind of end up catching strays even years after the video was posted and done.
I'm only 20 minutes in, but a lot of the stuff about "isolation" and "loneliness" makes more sense when I realized this project was made just a few months into the pandemic.
Oh, gods, I hadn't considered the mother's reaction until you mentioned that... She was absolutely upset because they were making this... I don't know what else to call it but a mockery of her youngest child's passing. I'll be honest, given that he clearly waited until she left before retrieving the urn, I'm not even sure she knew that they were going to do what they did with it...
it seems like the story here should have ended after the discovery of the flash drive. after that, the protag has evidence of hollis committing a murder, and almost all narrative potential was expended at that point. maybe let it run a bit further to when the protag realizes the meaning of the bag symbol, then cut and end the series. the 'regional protectorates' thing feels like an attempt to invent a new plot wholesale, just to keep things running. another big issue is, with them advising him, the audience loses their role as the story goes on, even though hollis is clearly the killer, i also think the audience increasingly associates with him over the other guy, simply because hollis increasingly becomes the only intelligent character
it wasn't the intended effect, but this series was entertaining just from a "learn not what to do" stand point. i still appreciate their effort though!! not to mention the really strong start that they had, its a shame it couldn't carry through the entire thing
I was one of the many people in chat watching the stream and I was just as shocked as everyone else while watching. This project is amazing! Things like this and Night Mind inspire me to work on stories I write that have been slow cooking in the back of my brain for a while. Keep being you Nick!💜
Gosh, I'm glad I learned about unfiction before encountering it. God knows that while I was still ignorant of the genre, if I'd run into a sufficiently realistic unfiction project "in the wild," so to speak, and illegal shenanigans seemed to be afoot I would have unintentionally rained all over *everyone's* parades.
Yeesh being there for the first half I had no clue it got this nutty. Watching the VOD I think I realized why this didn’t work for me: it started as a death note kind of story but it suddenly tried to make itself into blue velvet with the underlying suburban mafia thing. Problem is, aside from not being able to portray the seedier stuff among other things like blue velvet, this story didn’t have the base for it and didn’t set up for that kind of story anyway. It’s like starting with a sour dough base and then suddenly trying to make pasta out of it. People are gonna find it off putting instead of a cool twist. I do hope the folks that made it have another shot at a new story cuz they do have chops but just need to refine it a bit. PS. Also missed opportunity to have Hollis and his roommate be a thing so we could make “be gay do crime” jokes but alas we can’t have everything lmao
Just discovered your channel recently. Honestly, this video itself was such an incredible journey. You got so many smiles and laughs out of me. As a writer, this also got me thinking about how I would approach a project like this. I’m excited to see more, and if I have time, I’m excited to watch with you live!~ (P.S. I’ve gotta hand it to ya…the voice and new model combo is *handsome* and I’m all for it)
okay im not deep into this, but so far? this feels so much like being an agoraphobic artist (which is a mood so, i am projecting) but such an amazing vein of horror. I love this EDIT: NOT WHAT THIS AGORAPHOBIC ARTIST DOES WHAT THE !!!
Ahhhhhh!!! Nick's holding a coffee cup!!! This is too much change for me! Ahhhhhhhhhhh!!! *rapidly breaths into a paper bag* Joking aside, I might not ever be able to catch a livestream, but I'm coming over from Night Mind and I'll definitely be sticking around
Well I love watching NM explain things or critique creators….. the point I took out of it was like an old adage my Granny taught me…”Never believe anything you hear and only half of what you see….” Could be totally out in left field but it’s where my brain went …..
Fun stream. And I like your takes NM. As well as professionalism. I wouldn't have been able to find and appreciate this content without you. Also, good job on the project to the Hiding In My Home crew. While I had my own issues with it. Congratulations on the work!
I remember watching and following Hiding in my House when InsideAMind did a video on it AGES ago. I didn't even know it was still going XD The only reason I remember this is because of the garage and the door. The door we become very familiar with.
the writing in the third act is such a tragedy in terms of losing sight of the plot threads and the character motivations falling apart - BUT, that said, I think there's something still very compelling about watching Anthony's descent into madness, that in hunting down Hollis so doggedly, to the exclusion of reason and logic, to the exclusion of safety, Anthony falls into the same pit that Hollis crawled out from. There's something dark and delightful about seeing an ordinary guy just trying to find out what happened to his brother become the same kind of lunatic as the man he believes _killed_ his brother. With a bit more thoughtful execution, with maybe another pass at the script to clean it up, with the cutting of excess fat. Maybe with Anthony's style of video editing slowly devolving over the course of the series from that initial, very clean, informative video where we meet him into a tangled, paranoid mess of editing to match Hollis' arthouse madness. Ough, with just a bit of refinement, the third act of this series could have been absolutely delicious. We lose our first protagonist to the realisation that his eclectic style might be true madness, and then we lose our second protagonist while we watch that madness creep up his spine and throttle him. Even with the way it fell apart, what incredible potential to have dug up from the first two acts, goddamn.
This is a good example of why monologuing, especially about meta shit, should be kept to a minimum. Sounds like they should have stayed towards abstract horror. Still fascinated by the series.
I'm back from having watched the whole series first. My impression is that it's giving "That's a damn good margarita" vibes, and I'm curious to see if Nick loses his mind and gets as frustrated as I did watching this. My takeaway is that for the next episode of this series I'll watch it with Nick and follow his impressions to save myself from being disappointed and annoyed.
yeah the whole "hes trying to set me up for murder" line is really fuckin weird. I DID think that anthony might have been the actual bad guy because "ooo what a twist" and whatever; but the only thing that said it was anthony actively saying it post video: .... this was gross, and these characters dont understand how people consume media
I remember getting halfway through this and thinking that it felt like watching four fleshgaits try to learn human communication by talking to each other lol. Its a shame it took such a wild turn. Great stream btw! ♥
This was a great project. I was listening while working but look forward to more. (Always) Smol started school again today so I've got time on my hands.
I wasn't crazy about the Anthony reveal. As soon as he appeared on screen and started explaining that this wasn't Hollis' house I kind of saw the direction it was going and I just didn't see Anthony as a likable protagonist. I wish it had stayed even the original concept of "Everyone's gone and these spirit things are harrassing me." The videos were visually and conceptually amazing and had me sucked in. Maybe the contrast of going from one to the other with 0 warning is what put the sour taste in my mouth.
same actually! personally, the concept of the reveal was really cool and the story direction still had a lot of potential,,, but anthony just WASNT selling anything. like, he was immediately lowkey really unlikable, its probably something in the acting/direction of his character it is also such a shame how the gorgeous visuals/design of the first 10 or so videos were entirely disintegrated with the whole anthony plottwist :((
Thank you for finally covering this. I discovered the series thanks to Inside A Mind and been hoping you checked it out for four years now. Thank you for making it come true!!!
Just adding to the chorus of folks who don't really watch live streams, but came here from the main NightMind channel and really liked it! Definitely subscribed for more VODs like this!
This series died after episode 14. Once Anthony came in it REALLY derailed to a terrible degree. IF Jordan was an actual child who died and knew about this series before his death and wanted to be apart of it, this was an awful disservice to him. Otherwise, I don't know what the last video is about other than it is them lamenting that this project failed and "Jordan" is really the project name somehow. Either way, spending 9 hours on this series feels terrible and it is a real shame. I'm glad it didn't turn out to be a Sophie or Hiimmarymary situation, however it could have stuck with the supernatural cat and mouse game a lot more and it would have been much better. I felt every single emotion Nick did while watching this, as someone who greatly appreciates not only unfiction but writing as a whole. This series infuriated me beyond belief and it has the same issues I see with modern cinema for horror. Fantastic premise, strong beginnings, terrible follow through, and an ending that never fits the plot. This is something more story writers, be they movie writers or book writers, NEED to do. THINK OUT YOUR PLOT. Please. You need to have a goal to get to. How do you end this? THEN create or expand on the beginning. The middle bits can be figured out as you work BUT the starting conflict HAS TO HAVE A RESOLUTION. Your audience WILL know if you half-assed your ending because you didn't think about it. They are not dumb. In fact that is one point that I also despise. Constant reminders or filling in the blanks with unneeded exposition. IF YOU HAVE TO EXPLAIN IT YOU DIDN'T DO A GOOD JOB WRITING IT.
I'm so grateful for the hard work Nick put in giving us the rundown for this one, it really did start so strongly and was so exciting and fun to see his and everyone's reactions to it first hand. It's a shame it fell apart, but as he says, still gives a lot to learn from for everyone and finishing something is still something to be appreciated. 💜 Reminded me of the film I See You, which I had a good time with.
okay but what i wouldnt give to have nick review/edit my story before publishing it. like- i know editors are thing and im working to save up the money for it, but the crit is never unwarranted and with it!! a story can get so much better!!
Chiming in to say that I really like this format! While I don't think I'd be able to catch them live because I struggle to watch streams (making my primary fandom hilarious), having them edited down to remove any extra fluff like start/end/pauses + add context where needed is PERFECT for me! I love having long videos to watch while I play Minecraft, and your silky smooth voice (and the buff catbat eye candy from the corner of my eye, lmao) makes for great company. I actually spent most of this video working on the plans for project for the server I play on. I'm probably gonna go hop over and watch Home Terror Tutorial next, or do so within the next day or two while I keep at this big ol' thing. :) PS-- you don't have to say anything about it right now, but I wanted to let you know that I'm VERY interested in your breakdown of Catastrophe Crow 64. I hope it comes eventually, because watching your vod made me feel...something. Not sure what to label it, but it's certainly A Feeling or ten.
1:57:52 Even more than Anthony’s age, what hits me as implausible is how he casually drops the names of Hollis’ parents. Up until that point Anthony had been talking about how little he’d been able to find out about Hollis, so did he just make the names up and hope the doctor wouldn’t notice, or did he have their names this whole time and just do nothing with the information?
"After this, I just went back home." I kind of felt like this as we kept going past the big reveal. "Oh my god! This guy was living in his garage?!" That was awesome. I should have just gone back home then.
Initially, it felt like TheSunHasVanished. Yeah. Telling the therapist he was dead wasn't necessary. Like, why not use the story that you're already aware of, that he's missing/has run away from home, and want information that may hint to where he might have gone.
Hi night mind I've been watching you for awhile now I started from welcome home which made me want to Start taking my own notes and drawing the characters thank you so much for all your hard work I wish I could give you a big hug you look so fluffy hehe ☺️
I came here because U saw this in my recommended and was a huge fan of your videos on Just Aquatences where you sort of "played ot live" as you called it
Way after the fact - but the believe ability went way down when Anthony mentioned his brother was kidnapped. The police would always be involved, and monitoring the family since they are normally the first suspects. Plus when it is a child of a certain age where are the search parties? I haven’t finished the story yet but if the little brother didn’t exist at all I wouldn’t be surprised. The story would be stronger, imo, if there was just a stranger in the house leaving cryptic messages
Gonna have to decide if I'm watching this stream or waiting to see if it gets covered on Night Mind main. I decided to take Nick's usual advice and check this out beforehand. I'm about halfway through. Curious to see where the story is going but the acting could be better (forgivable tbh), but I imagine Nick has some things to say about some of the character choices. This stream migh also illuminate what ARG elements I missed by watching it after the fact.
what in the actual hell did this series turn into also: this is great! i can never catch livestreams bc i'm way too busy, so this vod format is super. i like this very much.
Ahh! Original and rather active member of the server (during the active years of gameplay) here to say, watching y’all’s comments as I was watching the replay of the stream ✨seriously✨ warmed my heart! Took me back to the old days of the HIMH family 🫶🏼🥹 Bummed I missed the original stream, BUUUT, Thanks ✨a bunch✨ for covering this series! I’m so happy to see others enjoy it in a way and with excitement similar to how we all did! 🥹💖
I was there for the first few hours of this stream i remember just waiting for it to get better. I ended up falling asleep during it and rewatching the vod while it was still on twitch praying that the end qould come back around to the good of the beginning and it never did. I was so upset cause this series had so much potential and it felt wasted.
Well, congrats on the new model, looks great, honestly goes better with your voice imho. As for the the actual content, I'm an hour through the VOD and as much as I love the big plot twist for this story... I'm on the second video for the new guy whose brother is missing, and this guy's frequent dropping of F-Bombs feels forced. Like... This guy feels like a teenager who wanted to do an edgy horror story and thinks "This motherfucker killed my fucking brother and I don't give a fuck what he thinks" is mature. I'm having flashbacks to Creepcast reading "The Thing In The Basement" and Hunter just saying fuck every other word as a joke because of what the sister was saying. We'll see if this goes downhill... Though glancing at the comments I think it does.
201:59 Lol not even a steak knife, looks more like a paring knife to me… That being said, a knife is a knife, I guess. You can do a lot of damage if you know what you’re doing. …But I doubt Anthony knows his way around a knife. 😂
I’m only about an hour and a half in but this makes me wish for one of these unification stories where there is the plot twist of a third party suspecting the artist alluding to a murder, only for them to get in contact and realize the original artist has no clue about the missing person and just assumed someone had gotten into their account to add what they think should happen with the story again… and go from there
As someone who plans in doing their own unfiction one day, I am using your channel as a how-to, or in this case, how not to do. I liked it better with the ghost and goblins at the beginning, but I have learned something... Pla. Plan. Plan. Just tell the story, don't stray, and don't lose the plot. Thank you, Professor Nick. Edit.... Just got to the end. This was so bad it gave me cancer
I was following the Twitter and the Discord for this project the whole time it was happening. Even watched the long livestream followup with the creators. I've got thoughts, but I'll see what people think here...
👀👀 hello, fellow server member. Hahahaha the catch up with the creators was kinda sweet, imo. Personally, I had such a good time with this series during the lively days! 😂
This has the fingerprints of episodic writing. Only one or two videos at a time. Marble Hornets wrote whole seasons at a time. The weird shifting plot, the strange and useless filler and dumb twists, I've seen it all
Aside from the occasional strong moments that came after, I feel like the series really dropped off with the reveal of Anthony as the protagonist. The acting wasn't working for me and introducing more characters just amplified the problem. I do agree that there's something to be said for ending a project, but this one really felt like a non-ending. To me it comes across as the creators writing themselves into a corner and decided to pitch the script and make the story "meta". Granted, this is a truncated version and I can be really dense, but if the creators have to tell me to my face that there's a message and I can't discern one, I think there might be an issue.
It would be so cool if some of the astraline videos like this gets put on the main channel as well. Not many subscribers know about this channel sadly. 😢
How disappointing. I hate to say that, too. They fucked it up, big time. Hopefully they can learn from that project and improve. They really have talent and immense potential, and I'd love to see them develop more. Don't give up, fellas. Try again! You've got this. You have people who have faith in you.
I would appreciate a full VOD being available on UA-cam, as while I'm sure edited VoDs are great, i enjoy the full flow and experience of a complete stream with full context, but rarely have the opportunity to enjoy a stream start to finish live. Twitch ads are unbearable, and have horrific audio balancing. The worst jump scares are an ad popping up.
In software/game development there's this concept called 'creeping featurism': a problem that projects have when you begin expanding and adding things to the project to the point of excess. I feel like that's what happened here: the creators had one solid idea (the initial twist), but then they kept adding and adding and adding to it until it became this bloated, unfocused mess that is impossible to give any sort of satisfying ending to.
1:51:51 yeah that office is facing a malpractice suit for violating HIPAA but to be fair his shrink knew he was a threat to himself or others I didn't report him
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What a debut night project! We're not going to forget this one.
And hey, if you're over here from Night Mind giving this a shot--thank you! More scripted NM main videos being worked on right now. ::3
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Good lord, how did you edit all this???
I enjoyed this format a lot. It was fun seeing your reactions in real time with the usual format intertwined. I'd love to see more!
You’re an absolute inspiration, your mediums evolution and your process. I can’t wait for the day this channel eclipses your main, I can hear the authentic smile beyond the mic.
@@SEG. You think I could? I'm not sure entirely about that, but thank you so much!
@@blobofdespair I appreciate it, Blob, thanks!
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This was a lesson for writers everywhere: _know when to end it._
I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt:
I'm an artist, usually draw with charcoal, and one of the hardest things to learn is to stand back, look at the big picture and say when it's time to stop. Because your work can never be 1:1 with the image you have of it in your head, but there is a point where you have to know you've done all you can do.
I hope the creator of HiMH learns that lesson from his work, or else it'll only get worse.
Honestly, if it ended at the first reveal, with Anthony saying that there will be no more uploads and handing over the channel to the police, I think this ARG would have been sooooo much better, and so much more interesting as a case study to what it seems it was trying to say.
I feel like I witnessed the entire birth and creation of the statue of david, fully glossed and pristine and beautiful…
Then immediately followed up with seeing a random group of Logan Paul vlogers having a pi55ing contest on the statue, then BLOWING the statue up for a gender reveal party
DAMN that's a hell of a way to put it!
You are a poet and a gentleperson
@@NickNocturneAL I can’t believe im seeing this now but yeahh I was uhh.. a little upset ,
one may even say displeased,
passionately peeved perhaps,
pastry dough :3
@@Xaintrix Aw thank u lol i genuinely appreciate that ^^! Ngl this stream’s kinda been in the back of my mind cuz I thought maybe I was being too mean lmao ( TwT)
This series was like a roller-coaster. Awesome in the beginning, exciting, getting ready to have a great time. Then you go downhill after the first peak, but this is a roller-coaster for young kids at a state fair so it peters out quickly and you're stuck going around and around going over tiny hills with no end in sight
Honestly a pretty apt description.
Spoilers warning for anyone looking at the comments before the end of the VOD
At around 1:16:20 when Anthony was analysing the video descriptions, I had a thought that maybe the idea was going to be that the project was about an unfiction character becoming self-aware. But that's the thing though, I started to think it was about a _character_ going off the rails while being trapped in a deliberately-poorly-written story, as things progressed, I thought the reveal would be that Dr. Tanner and the other guy would be the creators, trying to get their characters back on track.
But the ultimate ending, with Anthony and Hollis droning on about "sending the audience a message" was convoluted and seemed desperate to prove itself as cleverer than it actually was or even needed to be. The idea of "The twist is that it's a messy and unsatisfying unfiction project" had so much potential, but they took too long to get there. And I get it - knowing how to pace a mystery and how to insert foreshadowing in a way that provides substantial clues without giving the game away are arguably the biggest challenges of writing a story.
I get the impression the real creators of the project got so invested in it that they lost the forest for the trees; they could have benefitted from some peer review to help them keep things in perspective and simplify things down a bit - and there's no shame in that - a good, honest peer review is often essential to making artistic projects of many different types work.
"Dudebro finding out that mental illness isn't like what he sees on TV" is not what I expected out of this video. But here we are.
For a kid living with his parents he sure does say "MY property" a lot.
Putting aside that this is supposed to be a teenager I think? The thing that was jarring to me was how the therapist didn't seem to know the names of his patient's parents. And just accepted the fake names without question. That seems kind of poorly written to me.
Four-eyed demon cat: This isn't the norm.
Me: Is anyone tuning in expecting norms to be reinforced?
Seriously though, as someone who's watched everything on the NightMind channel, I really enjoyed this format as well. I'm not a big fan of livestreams, but this is great. I appreciate the work put into editing and not having loud noises for subs and stuff making it a worse vod experience and taking away from the content you're analyzing. If this is what we can expect for this series I'm in!Love what you do, Nick, and congrats on the evolution to buff and a bit batty.
Thank you! I realized while everyone isn't about livestreams (or able to make it to them), they can still absolutely enjoy the experience recorded as long as it's properly designed for it. So, if I can still bring more Night Mind this way with a bit of preparation and proper editing, I'll do so! ::3
I really appreciate this message, thanks again!
I feel the same.
I’m gonna be perfectly honest, your model combined with your silky smooth voice definitely distracted me multiple times and I had to rewind to actually process the video itself
Half of the stream chat was ignoring this horrid thing and being sus over his model
@@TheParadoxGamer1I know you ain’t referring to Night Mind as a horrid thing when you’re literally using the word “sus” lmao.
@@britney3493 i totally glossed over a word i forgot to add, damn adhd
It's been... a week? A few weeks?? (what even is time) since the debut and I haven't STOPPED thinking about Hiding In My Home. I can't stop thinking about how I really loved the artful take the original videos had. I can't stop thinking about how good of a twist the first discovery actually was. I can't stop thinking about what this story COULD have been. And worst of all, I can't stop thinking about how frustrated and disappointed in me as the audience member the creators seemed to be telling us they were at the very end, when they were chiding us either for playing along with something dangerous or for falling for an obvious fake storyline like... the TONE the creators took in the last leg of the series comes off as bitter and resentful and I have genuinely no idea if the creators realize that's how they sound at the end. I think that's why you should never try to get presumptive about what your viewership is actually thinking - if you find a thought process or something in the comments specifically and get frustrated with it, then project that onto everyone else, then other viewers just kind of end up catching strays even years after the video was posted and done.
I'm only 20 minutes in, but a lot of the stuff about "isolation" and "loneliness" makes more sense when I realized this project was made just a few months into the pandemic.
Oh, gods, I hadn't considered the mother's reaction until you mentioned that... She was absolutely upset because they were making this... I don't know what else to call it but a mockery of her youngest child's passing. I'll be honest, given that he clearly waited until she left before retrieving the urn, I'm not even sure she knew that they were going to do what they did with it...
So the brother genuinely died and they spread his actual ashes at the end?! How fucking disrespectful if true..
it seems like the story here should have ended after the discovery of the flash drive. after that, the protag has evidence of hollis committing a murder, and almost all narrative potential was expended at that point. maybe let it run a bit further to when the protag realizes the meaning of the bag symbol, then cut and end the series. the 'regional protectorates' thing feels like an attempt to invent a new plot wholesale, just to keep things running. another big issue is, with them advising him, the audience loses their role
as the story goes on, even though hollis is clearly the killer, i also think the audience increasingly associates with him over the other guy, simply because hollis increasingly becomes the only intelligent character
it wasn't the intended effect, but this series was entertaining just from a "learn not what to do" stand point. i still appreciate their effort though!! not to mention the really strong start that they had, its a shame it couldn't carry through the entire thing
I was one of the many people in chat watching the stream and I was just as shocked as everyone else while watching. This project is amazing! Things like this and Night Mind inspire me to work on stories I write that have been slow cooking in the back of my brain for a while. Keep being you Nick!💜
Thank you, Cloudgod! Do keep working on your writing and enjoying it even on the tired days!
Gosh, I'm glad I learned about unfiction before encountering it. God knows that while I was still ignorant of the genre, if I'd run into a sufficiently realistic unfiction project "in the wild," so to speak, and illegal shenanigans seemed to be afoot I would have unintentionally rained all over *everyone's* parades.
Yeesh being there for the first half I had no clue it got this nutty. Watching the VOD I think I realized why this didn’t work for me: it started as a death note kind of story but it suddenly tried to make itself into blue velvet with the underlying suburban mafia thing. Problem is, aside from not being able to portray the seedier stuff among other things like blue velvet, this story didn’t have the base for it and didn’t set up for that kind of story anyway. It’s like starting with a sour dough base and then suddenly trying to make pasta out of it. People are gonna find it off putting instead of a cool twist. I do hope the folks that made it have another shot at a new story cuz they do have chops but just need to refine it a bit.
PS. Also missed opportunity to have Hollis and his roommate be a thing so we could make “be gay do crime” jokes but alas we can’t have everything lmao
can we just take a second to see how damned good Nick looks?!?!?!?!? holy mother of pearl
It is really cool to see your thought process and train of analysis in real time.
Also love seeing obscure series getting a bump.
Just discovered your channel recently. Honestly, this video itself was such an incredible journey. You got so many smiles and laughs out of me. As a writer, this also got me thinking about how I would approach a project like this.
I’m excited to see more, and if I have time, I’m excited to watch with you live!~
(P.S. I’ve gotta hand it to ya…the voice and new model combo is *handsome* and I’m all for it)
This series started out so good, they really didn't need the Dr. Tanner story!
okay im not deep into this, but so far? this feels so much like being an agoraphobic artist (which is a mood so, i am projecting) but such an amazing vein of horror. I love this EDIT: NOT WHAT THIS AGORAPHOBIC ARTIST DOES WHAT THE !!!
Ahhhhhh!!! Nick's holding a coffee cup!!! This is too much change for me! Ahhhhhhhhhhh!!! *rapidly breaths into a paper bag*
Joking aside, I might not ever be able to catch a livestream, but I'm coming over from Night Mind and I'll definitely be sticking around
Thank you! And thanks especially for sticking around despite my big mug. ☕️
Well I love watching NM explain things or critique creators….. the point I took out of it was like an old adage my Granny taught me…”Never believe anything you hear and only half of what you see….” Could be totally out in left field but it’s where my brain went …..
Fun stream. And I like your takes NM. As well as professionalism. I wouldn't have been able to find and appreciate this content without you.
Also, good job on the project to the Hiding In My Home crew. While I had my own issues with it. Congratulations on the work!
I appreciate this a lot, thank you!
Buff. I love this :-) I'm glad you're spreading out your coverage and wish you the best
Thank you! I'm grateful you took a moment to tell me that, and to take a look!
I remember watching and following Hiding in my House when InsideAMind did a video on it AGES ago. I didn't even know it was still going XD The only reason I remember this is because of the garage and the door. The door we become very familiar with.
I am loving the live stream uploads!!! Ive been watching through them all from most recent to older. Thanks for the long-form content 😁
Great to have you here! Thank you. ::3
the writing in the third act is such a tragedy in terms of losing sight of the plot threads and the character motivations falling apart - BUT, that said, I think there's something still very compelling about watching Anthony's descent into madness, that in hunting down Hollis so doggedly, to the exclusion of reason and logic, to the exclusion of safety, Anthony falls into the same pit that Hollis crawled out from. There's something dark and delightful about seeing an ordinary guy just trying to find out what happened to his brother become the same kind of lunatic as the man he believes _killed_ his brother. With a bit more thoughtful execution, with maybe another pass at the script to clean it up, with the cutting of excess fat. Maybe with Anthony's style of video editing slowly devolving over the course of the series from that initial, very clean, informative video where we meet him into a tangled, paranoid mess of editing to match Hollis' arthouse madness.
Ough, with just a bit of refinement, the third act of this series could have been absolutely delicious. We lose our first protagonist to the realisation that his eclectic style might be true madness, and then we lose our second protagonist while we watch that madness creep up his spine and throttle him. Even with the way it fell apart, what incredible potential to have dug up from the first two acts, goddamn.
This is a good example of why monologuing, especially about meta shit, should be kept to a minimum. Sounds like they should have stayed towards abstract horror. Still fascinated by the series.
I'm back from having watched the whole series first. My impression is that it's giving "That's a damn good margarita" vibes, and I'm curious to see if Nick loses his mind and gets as frustrated as I did watching this. My takeaway is that for the next episode of this series I'll watch it with Nick and follow his impressions to save myself from being disappointed and annoyed.
yeah the whole "hes trying to set me up for murder" line is really fuckin weird. I DID think that anthony might have been the actual bad guy because "ooo what a twist" and whatever; but the only thing that said it was anthony actively saying it
post video: .... this was gross, and these characters dont understand how people consume media
I remember getting halfway through this and thinking that it felt like watching four fleshgaits try to learn human communication by talking to each other lol. Its a shame it took such a wild turn.
Great stream btw! ♥
Thank you, Crimson!
This was a great project. I was listening while working but look forward to more. (Always) Smol started school again today so I've got time on my hands.
I wasn't crazy about the Anthony reveal. As soon as he appeared on screen and started explaining that this wasn't Hollis' house I kind of saw the direction it was going and I just didn't see Anthony as a likable protagonist. I wish it had stayed even the original concept of "Everyone's gone and these spirit things are harrassing me." The videos were visually and conceptually amazing and had me sucked in. Maybe the contrast of going from one to the other with 0 warning is what put the sour taste in my mouth.
same actually! personally, the concept of the reveal was really cool and the story direction still had a lot of potential,,, but anthony just WASNT selling anything. like, he was immediately lowkey really unlikable, its probably something in the acting/direction of his character
it is also such a shame how the gorgeous visuals/design of the first 10 or so videos were entirely disintegrated with the whole anthony plottwist :((
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Bro I've never seen Nick so angry and I've been watching his channel since elementary school 😭
I’m here from Night Mind and I thoroughly enjoyed this live
I’ve always wondered how you figured all this stuff out
Thank you! Glad to see you here. 8w8
Their back and forth is like a really intense argument on Twitter.
Thank you for finally covering this. I discovered the series thanks to Inside A Mind and been hoping you checked it out for four years now. Thank you for making it come true!!!
Just adding to the chorus of folks who don't really watch live streams, but came here from the main NightMind channel and really liked it! Definitely subscribed for more VODs like this!
Super appreciated, thank you, and glad you enjoy the form!
This series died after episode 14. Once Anthony came in it REALLY derailed to a terrible degree. IF Jordan was an actual child who died and knew about this series before his death and wanted to be apart of it, this was an awful disservice to him. Otherwise, I don't know what the last video is about other than it is them lamenting that this project failed and "Jordan" is really the project name somehow. Either way, spending 9 hours on this series feels terrible and it is a real shame. I'm glad it didn't turn out to be a Sophie or Hiimmarymary situation, however it could have stuck with the supernatural cat and mouse game a lot more and it would have been much better. I felt every single emotion Nick did while watching this, as someone who greatly appreciates not only unfiction but writing as a whole. This series infuriated me beyond belief and it has the same issues I see with modern cinema for horror. Fantastic premise, strong beginnings, terrible follow through, and an ending that never fits the plot. This is something more story writers, be they movie writers or book writers, NEED to do. THINK OUT YOUR PLOT. Please. You need to have a goal to get to. How do you end this? THEN create or expand on the beginning. The middle bits can be figured out as you work BUT the starting conflict HAS TO HAVE A RESOLUTION. Your audience WILL know if you half-assed your ending because you didn't think about it. They are not dumb. In fact that is one point that I also despise. Constant reminders or filling in the blanks with unneeded exposition. IF YOU HAVE TO EXPLAIN IT YOU DIDN'T DO A GOOD JOB WRITING IT.
I'm so grateful for the hard work Nick put in giving us the rundown for this one, it really did start so strongly and was so exciting and fun to see his and everyone's reactions to it first hand. It's a shame it fell apart, but as he says, still gives a lot to learn from for everyone and finishing something is still something to be appreciated. 💜 Reminded me of the film I See You, which I had a good time with.
"What would you all do?"
Call the police and/or keep the thing as evidence.
okay but what i wouldnt give to have nick review/edit my story before publishing it. like- i know editors are thing and im working to save up the money for it, but the crit is never unwarranted and with it!! a story can get so much better!!
Chiming in to say that I really like this format! While I don't think I'd be able to catch them live because I struggle to watch streams (making my primary fandom hilarious), having them edited down to remove any extra fluff like start/end/pauses + add context where needed is PERFECT for me! I love having long videos to watch while I play Minecraft, and your silky smooth voice (and the buff catbat eye candy from the corner of my eye, lmao) makes for great company.
I actually spent most of this video working on the plans for project for the server I play on. I'm probably gonna go hop over and watch Home Terror Tutorial next, or do so within the next day or two while I keep at this big ol' thing. :)
PS-- you don't have to say anything about it right now, but I wanted to let you know that I'm VERY interested in your breakdown of Catastrophe Crow 64. I hope it comes eventually, because watching your vod made me feel...something. Not sure what to label it, but it's certainly A Feeling or ten.
Thank you so much! I'm delighted to hear all of this and glad it's working for you. Definitely more on the way regularly. ::3
So excited to have found you have a streaming/VOD channel! Also amazing vtube model, super cool design.
I usually prefer the more supernatural fantastic projects but this is one of the mundane ones that honestly I kind of like.
Ok first nm open office for a series I haven’t seen im not tee heeing but im excited
JUST KIDDING I CANT WATCH RIGHT NOW BECAUSE INHAVE TO GO HERD CHICKENS
1:57:52 Even more than Anthony’s age, what hits me as implausible is how he casually drops the names of Hollis’ parents. Up until that point Anthony had been talking about how little he’d been able to find out about Hollis, so did he just make the names up and hope the doctor wouldn’t notice, or did he have their names this whole time and just do nothing with the information?
"After this, I just went back home." I kind of felt like this as we kept going past the big reveal. "Oh my god! This guy was living in his garage?!" That was awesome.
I should have just gone back home then.
Initially, it felt like TheSunHasVanished.
Yeah. Telling the therapist he was dead wasn't necessary. Like, why not use the story that you're already aware of, that he's missing/has run away from home, and want information that may hint to where he might have gone.
so was the ending basically “this was a social experiment”, or am i off? ngl, i did not understand a word of the explanation in the last video
More or less.
The plot wasn't just lost, it ended up having a full on existential crisis 😂
this went from Post Content to Seventybroad to My Dad's Tapes to... I don't even know what. What a ride.
Hi night mind I've been watching you for awhile now I started from welcome home which made me want to Start taking my own notes and drawing the characters thank you so much for all your hard work I wish I could give you a big hug you look so fluffy hehe ☺️
I came here because U saw this in my recommended and was a huge fan of your videos on Just Aquatences where you sort of "played ot live" as you called it
Thanks for coming to give this a chance!
I love the live idea
Thank you!
I would love to see you some more of these. That was a lot of fun. 💙
WE FING CALLED THE PLOT TWIST
I’m not a huge fan of watching live streams, but I will absolutely will give it a chance if it involves Night Mind ❤
And I appreciate it a lot! Thank you!
@@NickNocturneAL absolutely!! Tried to make the stream earlier but missed!! I’ll be there next time!
Way after the fact - but the believe ability went way down when Anthony mentioned his brother was kidnapped. The police would always be involved, and monitoring the family since they are normally the first suspects. Plus when it is a child of a certain age where are the search parties? I haven’t finished the story yet but if the little brother didn’t exist at all I wouldn’t be surprised.
The story would be stronger, imo, if there was just a stranger in the house leaving cryptic messages
Ha!! Called it! 3:00:58
I freaking love this channel!!!
I'm never so happy when I'm behind on something as I am when it's Nick's videos.
Gonna have to decide if I'm watching this stream or waiting to see if it gets covered on Night Mind main. I decided to take Nick's usual advice and check this out beforehand. I'm about halfway through. Curious to see where the story is going but the acting could be better (forgivable tbh), but I imagine Nick has some things to say about some of the character choices. This stream migh also illuminate what ARG elements I missed by watching it after the fact.
what in the actual hell did this series turn into
also: this is great! i can never catch livestreams bc i'm way too busy, so this vod format is super. i like this very much.
Right? Like duh, you have solid evidence, you go to the police... Lol
i love buff demon cat nick - thank you for embracing this model
The acting of the news caster at 2:34:30 was fire tho
Ahh! Original and rather active member of the server (during the active years of gameplay) here to say, watching y’all’s comments as I was watching the replay of the stream ✨seriously✨ warmed my heart! Took me back to the old days of the HIMH family 🫶🏼🥹
Bummed I missed the original stream, BUUUT,
Thanks ✨a bunch✨ for covering this series! I’m so happy to see others enjoy it in a way and with excitement similar to how we all did! 🥹💖
I was there for the first few hours of this stream i remember just waiting for it to get better. I ended up falling asleep during it and rewatching the vod while it was still on twitch praying that the end qould come back around to the good of the beginning and it never did. I was so upset cause this series had so much potential and it felt wasted.
Loved getting to experience an index night live as it happened.
Well, congrats on the new model, looks great, honestly goes better with your voice imho.
As for the the actual content, I'm an hour through the VOD and as much as I love the big plot twist for this story...
I'm on the second video for the new guy whose brother is missing, and this guy's frequent dropping of F-Bombs feels forced. Like... This guy feels like a teenager who wanted to do an edgy horror story and thinks "This motherfucker killed my fucking brother and I don't give a fuck what he thinks" is mature. I'm having flashbacks to Creepcast reading "The Thing In The Basement" and Hunter just saying fuck every other word as a joke because of what the sister was saying.
We'll see if this goes downhill... Though glancing at the comments I think it does.
Thanks, Elias! I certainly feel better this way. ::3
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Lol not even a steak knife, looks more like a paring knife to me…
That being said, a knife is a knife, I guess. You can do a lot of damage if you know what you’re doing.
…But I doubt Anthony knows his way around a knife. 😂
I was there on debut night! (Live Nick/NM is a TREAT!)
💜💚💜💚💜💚💜💚💜💚💜
Thank you, Karebear! Wonderful to have you here (and there!)
The double meaning behind "hiding in my home" tho
This was a journey.
I legit figured the plot involved Anthony's parents being sketchy. I didnt expect...that.
Goodness i remember this one from so long ago
I’m only about an hour and a half in but this makes me wish for one of these unification stories where there is the plot twist of a third party suspecting the artist alluding to a murder, only for them to get in contact and realize the original artist has no clue about the missing person and just assumed someone had gotten into their account to add what they think should happen with the story again… and go from there
Lets go baby! Chaos enegy ago for work
I'm here from OG Night Mind trying this New Night Mind-ish out.
Thank you! I hope you enjoy!
I wake up at 1:30 am and couldn't sleep so i watched all this lol
This became GOT: The Unfiction
As someone who plans in doing their own unfiction one day, I am using your channel as a how-to, or in this case, how not to do.
I liked it better with the ghost and goblins at the beginning, but I have learned something...
Pla. Plan. Plan. Just tell the story, don't stray, and don't lose the plot.
Thank you, Professor Nick.
Edit....
Just got to the end.
This was so bad it gave me cancer
I feel violated.
3:12:28 what was your purpose? What needs to change? What the hell was all of this for?
I was following the Twitter and the Discord for this project the whole time it was happening.
Even watched the long livestream followup with the creators.
I've got thoughts, but I'll see what people think here...
👀👀 hello, fellow server member. Hahahaha the catch up with the creators was kinda sweet, imo. Personally, I had such a good time with this series during the lively days! 😂
This has the fingerprints of episodic writing. Only one or two videos at a time. Marble Hornets wrote whole seasons at a time. The weird shifting plot, the strange and useless filler and dumb twists, I've seen it all
Well done!!
Thank you! 8w8
Aside from the occasional strong moments that came after, I feel like the series really dropped off with the reveal of Anthony as the protagonist. The acting wasn't working for me and introducing more characters just amplified the problem. I do agree that there's something to be said for ending a project, but this one really felt like a non-ending. To me it comes across as the creators writing themselves into a corner and decided to pitch the script and make the story "meta". Granted, this is a truncated version and I can be really dense, but if the creators have to tell me to my face that there's a message and I can't discern one, I think there might be an issue.
10:27 bro got possessed by the ASMR demon XD
Nick, you need to cover Interloper. Especially since it's a creative ARG that is STILL ongoing.
It would be so cool if some of the astraline videos like this gets put on the main channel as well. Not many subscribers know about this channel sadly. 😢
How disappointing. I hate to say that, too. They fucked it up, big time. Hopefully they can learn from that project and improve. They really have talent and immense potential, and I'd love to see them develop more.
Don't give up, fellas. Try again! You've got this. You have people who have faith in you.
1:05:00 got me laughing in the middle of the night trying not to wake the house 😂😂😂😂. My dude.
They made the cat mad.
thicc cat man. I'm intimidated.
I would appreciate a full VOD being available on UA-cam, as while I'm sure edited VoDs are great, i enjoy the full flow and experience of a complete stream with full context, but rarely have the opportunity to enjoy a stream start to finish live. Twitch ads are unbearable, and have horrific audio balancing. The worst jump scares are an ad popping up.
That'll actually take a little bit of working, but I can see it in the future! Thank you.
In software/game development there's this concept called 'creeping featurism': a problem that projects have when you begin expanding and adding things to the project to the point of excess. I feel like that's what happened here: the creators had one solid idea (the initial twist), but then they kept adding and adding and adding to it until it became this bloated, unfocused mess that is impossible to give any sort of satisfying ending to.
I love the avatar
Thank you!
1:51:51 yeah that office is facing a malpractice suit for violating HIPAA but to be fair his shrink knew he was a threat to himself or others I didn't report him