IMHO, game three was one of the best games in recent memory. SO interesting, so much dynamic play by both sides. I think Elazer could have done more to hit areas and harrass during that looonnngggg mid game but overall that was an insanely cool game to watch.
The engagement @ 56:45 with the brood lords belongs in the Terran Manual of How to Handle Terrible Situations. That was incredibly well executed by Byun, I'm pretty sure I'da just died.
5:34 I mean no, they are right. Esports is a part of sports, it is 'physical' more so than chess whcih si also a sport. Sport is a general term, it doesn't just include contact sports or ones including a lot of runnign around
Elazer was just too inefficient with his units. He blew 80+ supply of units going into a bad position with his brood lords. He initially had an advantage when they first popped, but he pulled back inexplicably to divert attention to saving his top right base. Also, his use of swarm hosts had a lot to be desired as he never used them to target buildings or units that could be destroyed, such as turrets and the SCVs and mules repairing the planetaries. With his position so close to Byun's main, I don't quite understand why he never sent locusts up there. Buildings are expensive and against terran, you are bound to catch small groups of reinforcements, which locusts are very strong against. Either way, Elazer is showing a lot of promise and I would not be surprised if next season he makes a run like Scarlett did in season 1 this year.
its just sad the way zergs lose to terrans on late game. i know elazer screwed up in this case but it always kind of looks like this, like they dont know what to do or what theyre supposed it. they got all the resources and upgrades and everything but nada
When you said Terran units are broken or OP/imba whatever, did you ever think how hard micro and use it properly. We, Terran players aren't ByuN, Maru, TY, or even INnovaTioN. We can't micro like that. Just spliting and multipronged-attack (and watchover them to don't let them waste for nothing. you know, they aren't mutalisk. They could died easily) use so many APM and must click precisely. You know nothing if you never play Terran in diamond KR server.
Terran indeed requires an insane amount of effort to compete with other races on equal, if not even slightly advantageous, level towards mid to late game. Not to mention, protoss is a type of race which gains more benefit per click or command, compared to other races. One-click defense; one-click recall; uncountable t-clicks per second, etc. You don't have to fall into misery just because you lost to some protoss guy on ladder the other day. If you know you are better, you ARE better.
OMG, FINALLY, A SMART COMMENT! the other races have powerfull a-move units like carriers, broodlord, colossus.... while terran's strong units, like ghosts, require so much micro and skills that you litteraly go crazy... if you get distracted one second, you die, if you don't siege libs tanks and mines in time, you die, if you don't split against storm or banelings, you die, if you don't put all the efford in the match, you die.
I have been telling others who said Terran is OP/IMBA, told them to pick Terran and climb up to GM. No one has ever responded to my suggestion. They just whining but they know by heart how hard to master Terran.
How so true, switching from Terran to other races really made me wonder why I was stuck in that difficult a race for so long.....it's a very unforgiving race.....
Not sure why protosses still whine. You got cheap-ass prism with op abilities, stationary observer for ez f2 amove control, melee attack on ht for easier amove-ability, buffed gateway units, op chronoboost, low risk high rewarding recall, refund of gateway cooldown upon canceling warping process on a prism, op battery shield, adepts being multiple places at the same time with one simple click, dt blink, etc. If you still have trouble in pvt, with all of the above advantages, I have a bad news for you.
I agree that Elazer should put Locus into the main, maybe use more of Zerglings to attack another locations. Try to split Terran. In short do not hit the same wall 100 times without result, but... Terran Ghost and Raven are very much broken in my opinion against Zerg and even against Protos. The way that Terran can turtle and enemy cannot even do damage before it loses high tier units in a second is not much of fun. This game in the end was boring to watch. Zerg spend his whole resources compared to Terran without even getting a planetary. Locus are I guess designed to actually attack undefended bases or small armies, but with head on against an army Locus die before they even have chance to shoot once. Late game Zerg not much fun to watch even though Dark and Rogue win them sometimes.
And that, child, is real balance... 30mn games where players fight for each m2 of terrain (and tbh Elazer could have won it if he attacked at different locations) Happy to see Byun reach Ro16
Raven was pretty nerfed so the anti armors missils can hardly kill zerg units by themselvs. Still swarmhost and broodlords can't attack air units and have low hp so that is how they managed to be of some useful agains the sieges.
Ghost and liberator are single target units and you have to micro them well to get some use of them agains ultras but for another side their use is pretty bad agains big armies so Is weird to here you complain about ghost and liberators when you just need simple army of zerglings, banelings and hydras along with a overseer to totally crush those.
1:17:32 That's a joke right Artosis? So tired of watching players abuse the shit out of broken ass ghosts against zergs. And they aren't even multitasking while doing it. Drops during late game phase would end it fast. Shit is so dumb. Why not give snipe to Raven's while your at it so they don't even need to build ghosts.
Funny how people are so quick to complain bout balance now, but these same people were completely silent for years while T/P had to deal with infestor/BL every game.
Ghost/raven too strong. They made a good point about ghosts how they hard counter the unit meant to counter them - ghosts can just emp infestors, what are zergs supposed to do.
There just isn't any reason to let the game go late in TvZ. Ghosts and Ravens are too broken in those late game stalemates because of how OP their spells are. Snipe definitely needs to be nerfed again.
god and people act like terran cries. Only a few people in the world can handle it, don't always win, and it's only been a few times. I guess you're the type of zerg that feels like if you get to start hive you should auto-win
David Carper I would love to see you try that said Terran strat yourself to climb up to GM. Hope you will have a good time with your own "Insightful comment about how IMBA Terran's units are", do it to feel it. Would you dare? Dont get me wrong, I main Zerg and I tried Terran many times. Whenever I played Terran, I got smoked!!!
Are you serious? Zerg have more usefull late game units agains armies compares to terran. They can make free of charge armies and you complain about a single target spell? Come on. Pretty much the only way for terran to win late game agains zerg is by trying to resist until zerg mine out as ByuN did. Its a attrition battle not a direct battle. Is a lot harder for the terran to keep the necesary micro and macro on and not breaking agains the pressure than it for the zerg to keep the pressure. Actually even if Zerg messed up once late game they could easily recover as long as there were still minerals and gas while terran only had to break once late game to lose the game.
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I started playing with Terran after to watch byun and his micro, mi goodness he is a god, I wish I could to play like him but it needs lots of effort
BYUN vs ELAZER...BYUN Game 3 was SICKKKKK!!!!!
IMHO, game three was one of the best games in recent memory. SO interesting, so much dynamic play by both sides. I think Elazer could have done more to hit areas and harrass during that looonnngggg mid game but overall that was an insanely cool game to watch.
The engagement @ 56:45 with the brood lords belongs in the Terran Manual of How to Handle Terrible Situations. That was incredibly well executed by Byun, I'm pretty sure I'da just died.
Games were Sick!
Tastosis is just hilarious
Blizzard has failed to put terrans down again! ByuN went to Ro16! What a game from Byun!
Season 2 was the best season last year imo. Despite the awful final, the whole tournament was insane
5:34 I mean no, they are right. Esports is a part of sports, it is 'physical' more so than chess whcih si also a sport.
Sport is a general term, it doesn't just include contact sports or ones including a lot of runnign around
exciting battle! my favourite togheter with Serral vs Reynor.
Very well played by both players! Fantastic finish and well casted too! GGWP boys
SO AWESOME! Feel so good. Thanks to AfreecaTV
Elazer was just too inefficient with his units. He blew 80+ supply of units going into a bad position with his brood lords. He initially had an advantage when they first popped, but he pulled back inexplicably to divert attention to saving his top right base.
Also, his use of swarm hosts had a lot to be desired as he never used them to target buildings or units that could be destroyed, such as turrets and the SCVs and mules repairing the planetaries. With his position so close to Byun's main, I don't quite understand why he never sent locusts up there. Buildings are expensive and against terran, you are bound to catch small groups of reinforcements, which locusts are very strong against.
Either way, Elazer is showing a lot of promise and I would not be surprised if next season he makes a run like Scarlett did in season 1 this year.
Lol Byun "trying to be a Harlem Globetrotter with his micro." Great commentary!
when you see the game slowly slipping away but there're nothing you can do about it
i dont knowe if I have right but late mutas on main terran base could make a difirence
Byun played a great series and show those announcers who is the boss.
di. mythios he is fucking shit
Game 1 2:23
its just sad the way zergs lose to terrans on late game. i know elazer screwed up in this case but it always kind of looks like this, like they dont know what to do or what theyre supposed it. they got all the resources and upgrades and everything but nada
Byun has gray hair now??
When you said Terran units are broken or OP/imba whatever, did you ever think how hard micro and use it properly. We, Terran players aren't ByuN, Maru, TY, or even INnovaTioN. We can't micro like that. Just spliting and multipronged-attack (and watchover them to don't let them waste for nothing. you know, they aren't mutalisk. They could died easily) use so many APM and must click precisely.
You know nothing if you never play Terran in diamond KR server.
Terran indeed requires an insane amount of effort to compete with other races on equal, if not even slightly advantageous, level towards mid to late game. Not to mention, protoss is a type of race which gains more benefit per click or command, compared to other races. One-click defense; one-click recall; uncountable t-clicks per second, etc. You don't have to fall into misery just because you lost to some protoss guy on ladder the other day. If you know you are better, you ARE better.
Justin McFall Exactly. You should have gone for F10+N way before the mass recall.
OMG, FINALLY, A SMART COMMENT! the other races have powerfull a-move units like carriers, broodlord, colossus.... while terran's strong units, like ghosts, require so much micro and skills that you litteraly go crazy... if you get distracted one second, you die, if you don't siege libs tanks and mines in time, you die, if you don't split against storm or banelings, you die, if you don't put all the efford in the match, you die.
I have been telling others who said Terran is OP/IMBA, told them to pick Terran and climb up to GM. No one has ever responded to my suggestion. They just whining but they know by heart how hard to master Terran.
How so true, switching from Terran to other races really made me wonder why I was stuck in that difficult a race for so long.....it's a very unforgiving race.....
awesome games !
Not sure why protosses still whine. You got cheap-ass prism with op abilities, stationary observer for ez f2 amove control, melee attack on ht for easier amove-ability, buffed gateway units, op chronoboost, low risk high rewarding recall, refund of gateway cooldown upon canceling warping process on a prism, op battery shield, adepts being multiple places at the same time with one simple click, dt blink, etc. If you still have trouble in pvt, with all of the above advantages, I have a bad news for you.
I didn't think sc2 could be this close!
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이제 이신형 조성주에 변현우까지 추가네
어떻게 외국애들이 더 빨리올리냐.....
i was rooting for elazer...better luck next time bud
32:37 Enjoy the nuke!
Eating dinner at Costco!! LoL
Elazer jesteś najlepszy ! 😊
I agree that Elazer should put Locus into the main, maybe use more of Zerglings to attack another locations. Try to split Terran. In short do not hit the same wall 100 times without result, but... Terran Ghost and Raven are very much broken in my opinion against Zerg and even against Protos. The way that Terran can turtle and enemy cannot even do damage before it loses high tier units in a second is not much of fun. This game in the end was boring to watch. Zerg spend his whole resources compared to Terran without even getting a planetary. Locus are I guess designed to actually attack undefended bases or small armies, but with head on against an army Locus die before they even have chance to shoot once. Late game Zerg not much fun to watch even though Dark and Rogue win them sometimes.
Congrats byun! Wp'ed
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진짜 둘다 개쩐다 ㅋㅋ
Ghosts! So hot right now.
I fkn love tastosis
And that, child, is real balance... 30mn games where players fight for each m2 of terrain (and tbh Elazer could have won it if he attacked at different locations)
Happy to see Byun reach Ro16
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다음너프 유령아님 밤까 예상합니다...
ghost OP
how broken is the raven again... the last map is almost impossible against this mec + late game style. wp both
Raven was pretty nerfed so the anti armors missils can hardly kill zerg units by themselvs. Still swarmhost and broodlords can't attack air units and have low hp so that is how they managed to be of some useful agains the sieges.
So sad to see how ghost liberator is so broken, as a zerg you will lose an ultra or an blord in literally one second
Ravens are perfect balanced too lmao
Ghost and liberator are single target units and you have to micro them well to get some use of them agains ultras but for another side their use is pretty bad agains big armies so Is weird to here you complain about ghost and liberators when you just need simple army of zerglings, banelings and hydras along with a overseer to totally crush those.
LIGHTDX yes,they are reaaaaaally hard to use, 700 apm for sure
1:17:32 That's a joke right Artosis? So tired of watching players abuse the shit out of broken ass ghosts against zergs. And they aren't even multitasking while doing it. Drops during late game phase would end it fast. Shit is so dumb. Why not give snipe to Raven's while your at it so they don't even need to build ghosts.
Kinda tired of watching zerg lose lategame vs terran
it's funny, I was tired of zerg winning before mid game
Yeah but years Terrans never won late game, I mean remember Hots?
Funny how people are so quick to complain bout balance now, but these same people were completely silent for years while T/P had to deal with infestor/BL every game.
Ghost/raven too strong. They made a good point about ghosts how they hard counter the unit meant to counter them - ghosts can just emp infestors, what are zergs supposed to do.
KuroSuki99 agreed, in this case elazer didn't play well, made dumb moves. I was thinking more of some recent dark/Maru games
There just isn't any reason to let the game go late in TvZ. Ghosts and Ravens are too broken in those late game stalemates because of how OP their spells are. Snipe definitely needs to be nerfed again.
god and people act like terran cries. Only a few people in the world can handle it, don't always win, and it's only been a few times. I guess you're the type of zerg that feels like if you get to start hive you should auto-win
David Carper I would love to see you try that said Terran strat yourself to climb up to GM. Hope you will have a good time with your own "Insightful comment about how IMBA Terran's units are", do it to feel it. Would you dare?
Dont get me wrong, I main Zerg and I tried Terran many times. Whenever I played Terran, I got smoked!!!
Are you serious? Zerg have more usefull late game units agains armies compares to terran. They can make free of charge armies and you complain about a single target spell? Come on. Pretty much the only way for terran to win late game agains zerg is by trying to resist until zerg mine out as ByuN did. Its a attrition battle not a direct battle. Is a lot harder for the terran to keep the necesary micro and macro on and not breaking agains the pressure than it for the zerg to keep the pressure. Actually even if Zerg messed up once late game they could easily recover as long as there were still minerals and gas while terran only had to break once late game to lose the game.
Trivial ass conversations....
TranscendentalMental i think is kind of understandable, 10 years casting the same game with the same person, but still, i think this two are awesome
hey go fuck yourself
Have you finished highschool yet?
Terran Hero!