Egregoric Caesar | Guest: Mary Harrington | 11/22/23
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- Опубліковано 27 сер 2024
- Faith in democracy is plummeting among young people, which would seem to open the way for authoritarian governance, but the dominant worldview of the younger generation is one that rejects authority of any kind. Author Mary Harrington joins me to discuss this strange political dichotomy.
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"In the past men gave their thinking over to machines in the hopes that this would set them free. This only allowed other men with machines to enslave them."-Herbert
In the detective series Psycho-Pass , the country of Japan has turned over all judicial decisions to a vast artificial intelligence to judge and assign people a number that determines their criminality. It doesn't go well when people start finding ways to circumvent the algorithm.
Good point Miss Harrington -- earlier generations of Christians understood the importance of trying to lead a good life even if one were a slave, or, as she says, a helot or other person of humble station in society.
People already have a disturbing propensity to see AI like a modern day Oracle so it's not too much of a leap.
get Jonathan Pageau on..
And Doug Haugen of Dr Deep State!
Harrington is one of my favorite guests of yours and she pretty much carries UnHeard on her back with her writing.
Mary is great but if possible she needs to phase out that Freddie Sayers . Freddie's treatment of Will Knowland during his Unherd interview showed Freddie's true colours. He's a chauvinist for homosexuality.
@@lordsneed9418 Unheard is a UK Tory party mouthpiece, Harrington is the only one worth listening to over there
Speechless, once again, at what current pieties have brought about. Are there no staircases near where Sayers walks that he might mysteriously fall down?@@lordsneed9418
Most women in political or philosophical thought are not interesting, frankly, but occasionally there are exceptions, and Mary definitely is one.
Exactly 😮
De Jouvenel - moving from hunting your people to farming them is a long term investment ;)
Great chat. Mary is very engaging and her warmth and wit are welcome.
Extremely fascinating conversation.
AI ends being the antichrist.
macrobes
37:26 Spot on for the scifi short story "Twilight" (1932) by John Campbell. Very good.
Harrington is also a favorite thinker of mine.
All hail the AI autocrat (a chatroom connected not to a supercomputer cluster but a Mr Bergsteinbaum pretending to be a supercomputer cluster)
How dare you insult the great powerful Oz
For a while ive been pondering the impact of AI on local authority planning departments.
Maybe a local planning AI czar would work! I hope some city tried it.
There are some many admin tasks that should be given to an AI.
Bring on the communist robocops that force Hasan Piker to dig holes!
The potholes are adding up
Auron MacIntyre content feels like just an excuse for ad reads nowadays. More ads than content.
The Blind sounds awful and I'm never going to watch it.
Nice lady. Interesting stuff
MechaBentham strikes again
An hour of some old woman's half-baked ideas. No thanks.
@@GlennElliottKellershe is more interested in quirky wordplay in the titles of her articles than having well thought out ideas, and that is the truth.
We're evolving towards an anthill/beehive humanity. Where every individual is willing to die for the hill/hive. Aggressive towards every entity, besides us, we attack without thought anything that crosses our path. I'm glad I was born early in human evolution. I rather disagree with something than agree with everything.
There is a danger in too much disagreeability though.. like when you become an "I'm against the current thing" even when it results in inconsistent viewpoints . It should be I question the current thing but unfortunately human tendency is one or the other
Firstly, “evolution” as you imply it doesn’t exist. the second part is just you being d*monic.
Yeah no. People aren't willing to die for anything these days,I have no idea how you come to this conclusions
Wasn't this what pre-industrial humanity was all about? Top down structures are not serving a greater purpose to individuals like they used to. The west's quasi-religious doctrine is opposed to any form of monarchy similar to an anthill/beehive. It celebrates infertility, the dissolution of the family and community for emancipation from control of the family, community, and having a nanny state keep it all in check. How many people are actually going to give up their life for this? The people who do, mutilate their genitals and become genetic dead ends. Humanity is becoming less coherent as the days go on at this rate.
Unless we head towards a total collapse of international commerce and widespread communication of memetics via the Internet; I don't see how else humanity will revert back into these societies.
Due to the sheer number of people, it is probably the only way for a society to endure. Compared to say 1000 years ago, cities are already are like a hives. And this was relatively true of cities 1000 years ago. It seems to me that every advance in technology drives this and takes us further away from the way we evolved to live for hundreds of milennia before.
“This perfect day” by Ira Levin presents a somewhat similar dystopian idea with in AI in control of all of humanity. It’s a blend of 1984/brave new world. Dr. James White has said that this book is a lot closer than other dystopian novel to the reality we’re headed towards.
God love her heart. I’ve battled vaccine induced allergies my whole life. Sniff
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Looks like Tobias Forge in a future incarnation of Papa
49:00 Auron, what was that method of teaching you were trained in nonstop? Closed captioning says, "Kadan teaching" but that's not right. I know it's tangential to topic, but I teach now, and I want to recognize when I'm being taught to suppress thought.
The Kagan model defines over 150 repeatable, step-by-step, content-free ways to structure the interaction of students with each other, the curriculum, and the teacher. The greatest point of divergence in the two models are Kagan Structures.
@@bh_486 thank you very much.
Always appreciate Harrington! Great vid! 🔥
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I know Nietzsche wasn't the focus so the comments at the end were taking license; but in his defense:
Nietzsche wasn't advocating for a war of all against all where the strongest and most willed towards power win. The Will to Power is a reflection of the immoralist, who - in testing his morality - finds that his natural state is nobility (as opposed to the immoralist whose natural state is debasement, such as the later André Gide). The idea is that in a society that has fallen victim to slave morality, a noble people must recognize their true and noble morality (over-coming slave morality) and must have a Will to Power to reclaim their own society. This is because what is "moral" to a noble people who are overcome with slave morality may be to avoid power because they see the immoral people who hold it and do not want to be immoral themselves. E.g., think of how moral people avoid becoming politicians and lawyers because those politicians/lawyers are seen as liars and corrupt, and yet those politicians/lawyers hold large amounts of power in society because moral people do not oppose them in their professions.
A noble people must realize that they should not forsake society's positions of power; possessing noble morality, they must be willing to seek power to make society noble.
You can terraform some of the chuds some of the time but you can't terraform all of the chuds all of the time.
Wise chudweaver
This whole convo reminds me of Michael Crichton's "Prey". Might be time to re-read it.
Darn Auron... "the schemedian sence" really ?
Egregoric (Good dude tho)
Why isn’t she in the kitchen
Cuz she’s a feminist! 😱
There is absolutely nothing a woman has ever said, in the whole history, that humanity couldn't do without. @@GlennElliottKeller
Consent is optional, you're just making my point @@GlennElliottKeller
@@GlennElliottKeller wow objectifying much?