Do a nice piece on narcissistic personality disorder with sociopathic tendencies! Use the narcissist acronym SPECIAL ME and tie it to MHJ!!!!! 😅😂🤣 Also, sociopathic behaviors include, lack of empathy, deceitfulness, hostility, antisocial behaviors, among a few!! That's why I believe MHJ to be a classic narcissist with sociopathic tendencies! Interesting topic to tackle! 🤔 🧐 🤔
I was initially shocked when she won the injunction, but after reading the judgment, it was pretty clear she'd won nothing more than extra time to dig herself a deeper hole. I still haven't found an answer to one particular question though, and maybe you can give me an informed answer. Before the injunction even went to court, I thought I read that her contract could only be terminated prior to it's expiration by the Adore board of directors, which at that time was only MHJ & her two executive officers. Hybe terminated the other two & replaced them with three of their own people. Since the temporary injunction ruling was only against Hybe & NOT Adore, could those new people, who are now officially Adore board members, vote to oust her at any time? (if what I read initially was correct and it was determined to be in the best interest of Adore by those 3 members, of course) Also, the judgment specifically states that HYBE could not vote to dismiss her in the May 31st board meeting. In the US, the specificity of "ON MAY31..." alone could conceivably be enough to allow Hybe a loophole to reconvene & vote to dismiss her as early as one week later (of course, she would likely file another injunction in the event that happened). I may be reaching as I'm not very familiar with Korean law. In the US, nothing in a legal decision is typically left to chance, and judgments must be very specific in the wording and every possible effort is made to circumvent any future misinterpretation. Your theories are among the most well thought out I've heard. Thank you so much!
@@nataliacoggins6769 Honestly I'm strongly considering it, but I'm also not a psychologist and as I mentioned, you can be sued for defamation even if what you're saying is true, and I don't want a lawsuit XD
@@LoveButterfly999 For now! Remember the injunction is only temporary as I said. It's very likely HYBE will kick her out in the long run, even if they have to wait until her employment contract runs out in Nov 2026 🤧
I remember thinking they'll go for the next plan they'll remove her key people make her a a lame duck CEO. Didn't know they'd put an extra person in though. I looked at the what the judge said and realised he was telling HYBE what to legally to do next go after her in a criminal trial as he said she had betrayed HYBE I notice he said HYBE not ADOR. And what happened that's what HYBE have done and it's now in the hands of the police. Don't mess with HYBE they don't say much or show their hand before they have all their cards they require in their hands.
@@TheHaniverse I kinda think it was even important to lose (an irrelavant case), to make their opponents feel secure and show more of their hand. Smugness never wins.
I was surprised and pissed off at first. Later I thought that this will not be the end and no matter what happens I am done with her and New Jeans. I also want to say that it is not about being pro HYBE but being against MHJ because of the hate she spreads, the damage she does to artists and her greed.
I completely agree with you. While I personally don't hold anything against NJs, there is now this unpleasant association that I think is so sad. I have no ill will against them but I pretty much skip 'How Sweet' every time it comes up on my spotify because it stresses me out thinking about everything :/ MHJ has basically ruined the career of the idol she swore she was trying to save.
I also wanted Hybe to win and have her injunction dismissed! However, when I carefully read the ruling and found she won the TEMPORARY injunction was because of a legal loophole in their contract - it called for breach of trust, etc against Ador only - and didn't cover these types of business transgressions against MHJ's parent company, Hybe!!!!! These transgressions, involving possible criminality was out of their scope and this jurisdiction falls to the police to investigate!!! This clears the way for the Hybe criminal complaint they filed in April/May to proceed. The judges then stated, MHJ had been engaged in shady business to harm Hybe and, as a parent company, Hybe had full rights to fire/hire other Ador executives and board members, as they didn't have Hybe contracts like MHJ!!!! Hybe needed full clarifications made public by judges in a ruling to not look vindictive, but just and correct in actions protecting themselves. Genius move!!!!! This is what they wanted in the judgement, which makes her a lame duck CEO!!!! This ruling also cleared the way for Hybe to end all special considerations for Ador and NJ and impose the standard rates for rent, etc orher Hybe owned companies pay!!!! That's why she called for a truce, to put things behind and tried a "let's make nice" appeal and get along!!!! Hybe knows she's a snake in grass! However, they must also recognize she's a narcissist with sociopathic tendencies and this makes her dangerous, even without power!!! For those who want to know about narcissist behaviour, look to the narcissist acronym SPECIAL ME!!!! It'll all fit with every action she's publicly displayed! 😅😂🤣 In her second news conference, MHJ tried to appeal by stating, I'm only human!!!! To which I state, so was Jeffrey Dahmer!!!!! 😅😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I couldn't agree more with everything you've said, and I'm so glad to see that people are finally getting it. I just hope those who still support her can wake up and see the reality she herself is showing. It's crazy that she is literally the one harming NJs right now and yet they all believe and trust her without a doubt!
Hello all, I forget to state the sociopathic tendencies and/or behaviors!!!! Here goes: -- lack empathy -- antisocial behaviors -- deceitfulness -- hostility, aggression -- manipulative -- lack of restraint, irresponsibility Sounds a lot like MHJ!!!!! 🤔 🤔 🤣 🤣
I was a little surprised but then I thought it through again. I agree with everything you said! With a co-CEO since last week, a new board and 2 new directors MHJ is completely paralyzed. If she complains now it is ADOR she is complaining against. So smart. She has been completely outsmarted every step of the way. It should be interesting but I predict she is done.. Also HYBE now saying they will take legal action against slander opens the door to their attny’s tracking down the original culprit. She has already been implicated in BOT puff posts for NJ it’s not a far stretch to think she could have negative BOTS also. I hate lying and cheating and manipulation. TY!
I totally agree with you, but I wanted to clear up one thing. The current defamation case is for ILLIT - they are basically claiming that MHJ's claims of plagiarism were unfounded and hurt the group/company's business opportunities. If they can prove even one deal that was cancelled after her statements, they can prove damages caused by MHJ. Furthermore, MHJ making those accusations publically serve no purpose beyond slander, they are of no benefit to the public, so even if the judge agrees she is right about the plagiarism, she can still be sued for defamation, because this could have been handled in private.
She won her injunction but that's all, nothing more. She can paint it any way she likes it's a like a game of chess were one side allows a pawn to be taken in order to achieve Check Mate or in a war, where you plan to 'lose' a battle (fawn defeat) in order to draw the enemy into a trap to win the war.
Exactly!!! People are seeing this injunction as the war when it's really just one battle and there's still so much yet to come. The criminal charges against her are going to be huge in the next few weeks, and she can beg for a truce all she once, but just like with how HYBE treats antis, they're going to have a zero-settlement policy with her too.
@@eileencritchley4630 Yay, Eileen, you really got these analogies down pat! I'm convinced they fake fawned and took a strategic defeat, as well. Autumn will be wild, we'll need to wrap this up soon and decicively.
I was disappointed by the decision as I would have liked a clean break as quickly as possible. But it is pyrrhic victory for her. She has close supervision from the new board, she still faces criminal charges, and it gives HYBE time to get a replacement and subsequently prevent disruption for New Jeans. None of this will be comfortable for her. Even if she hangs on until Nov ‘26, she can’t leave with New Jeans without them buying out the contract (which runs until 2029 if the standard 7 year contract)and her ability to raise money as you said will be severely curtailed. Who would trust her? HYBE has never been more motivated to support Le Seraphim and ILLIT, so she can expect even more intense competition. If NJ results decline then she can be seen as having damaged ADOR assets and she can be fired on this basis as well. In a war of attrition the party with the most resources will always win, and that’s HYBE.
It isn't in HYBE interest to let NJ to go down, because NJ isn't MHJ asset or only ADORE's asset HYBE is interested in their success, because has to get the investment money back and also the profit. What MHJ stated that she (ADORE) made big money for HYBE it isn't true. Last year ADORE contributed with 5% on HYBE profit. The shareholders interest that HYBE represents is to take dividends, so HYBE has to support NJ in the future, and make them successful. If NJ girls want to go away from HYBE, and to pay the money for ending contracts, they are free to go.
@@mona.cabocmona303 I agree, they have an interest in NJ’s success but no more so than the other girl groups and one might even argue that their trust in NJ has been irretrievably broken, so they can hedge their bets. One of these groups will rise to the top and again arguably they would rather that be LS or ILLIT.
Beautifully said! And I think she knows it too. She had hoped to kick this all of as a heroic 'whistleblower' but HYBE announcing the audit basically beat her to the punch and now she's doing everything to save face and distract from the allegations because she knows she can't convincingly deny them. Once she's kicked out there will be nowhere for her to go, and hopefully by then HYBE would have undone the conditioning she's done to the NJ members and proven their reliability to their parents. Ultimately I feel the same, I really want this to be over sooner rather than later because it's only going to do more damage to everyone involved (and not involved, eg, BTS)
@@TheHaniverse Hybe really needed and wanted at least one strong GG. Now they have at least two of them. No idea how NJ will turn out. But LS and Illit fans are baptized by fire. Army will protect BTS no matter what. And Hybe has several other strong BGs and solo acts. I think MHJ might just bite her own ass until eternity for how she strengthened Hybe in the end.
0:35 I’m gonna leave my opinion before you start and see if we’re on the same wavelength. I think it’s the best possible outcome that MHJ won. She’s repeatedly said she wants to stay. Excellent! So now HYBE is not the big bad guy and she has her precious job. But in name only for all intents and purposes. She has the top executives of each department, who I’m guessing are not her biggest fans, watching her every move. Monitoring every financial and creative decision she makes. Her first press conference she was really vocal about how much she hates not being able to have the freedom to do whatever she wants, and now she’s trapped in her worst nightmare. And HYBE can wait for the court to convict her of her crimes. She will leave that company as a disgraced criminal, convicted of trying to do HYBE damage and HYBE just has to patiently wait for her to dig her own reputation’s grave. I’m here for it. Go do that job you love so much with those kids that are like your own children, making more money than any other executive there. Have a great time at the office.
HAHAHAHAHA this comment actually killed me, I love it! XD I also couldn't agree more! She swore up and down that she hated HYBE in the beginning but now she's begging to stay, not realising she's made it into the exact slave cell she claimed it was. They are going to keep her on a short leash while she digs her own grave, and I fully agree she is going to leave as a disgraced criminal! I'm so glad we are on the same page!
@@TheHaniverse Oh 100% I loved your video. And I’m glad that you brought up the fact that HYBE lawyers didn’t show out at that hearing. TBH it would have been a waste of their time because she was never accused of hurting ADOR. But at the same time, they got the judge to publicly state that HYBE absolutely has a case against her and that’s a verryyy bad look for her. Everyone that thinks that win was good for her or proved her innocence is very mistaken or is just reading the headlines that she won something. Also, those texts oh her talking smack about her “children” found their audience, I think. HYBE was the clear winner in this situation. I’m not a HYBE stan I don’t believe in being a fan of a company, they’re all bad to varying degrees. But I do loathe that woman, and I know it sounds terrible, but her downfall is like Christmas. 🥰 Also, you rock. Subscribed!
I couldn't agree more! It was so obvious she never cared about NJs, even from her own words, she's only centered on herself and never mentioned her staff or the members contribution 🙄 I will absolutely rest well the day she's dragged out of there kicking and screaming by the police. Also thank you so much for the sub 🥹🙏🏾 if you have any video requests, please lemme know any time!
I am glad I came across this channel. I will however highly recommend that people watch what Seoulitetv has reported on this matter. MHJ is twisted and has long been planning this (since 2021). Note this is before the NJ debut. She is behind the whole mess of defamation against other artists and supposed scandals. The irony is that in crying plagiarism to sway attention from her true crimes, she has been exposed as one of the biggest plagiarists herself so she isn’t that original or a creative genius after all! Her treachery is unbelievable. Now I am of the belief that the parents were strategically involved in this matter but also strongly feel that it is not normal for them not to react negatively against MHJ after seeing those vile kakao messages so either they have been convinced these were manipulated somehow or they in it for some kind of money. The group is also not that naive and have been disappointing. They should have kept quiet and waited for this whole thing to be finalised. I am not sorry to say this but these girls have had such a great opportunity to debut in the biggest kpop company with a big budget for their debut, resources, contacts, platform and that 16th floor. To look upon all of that and think that their success is only fuelled by their CEO is ridiculous. I pick up no genuine humility because their success was relatively guaranteed and easy. Those who did not have that when they debuted know the struggle, the fatigue, the hard work and perseverance as well as dedication it takes to make their dream work and are still humble despite being super successful! BTS and Seventeen come to mind as some of the examples! If they continue supporting that narcissist, it will blow up in their face sooner or later
Hi, thank you for your comment and I'm glad you've enjoyed my videos so far! I watch SeouliteTV myself and I agree with a lot of what he says too, and I've also mentioned a lot of what you've said in previous videos. The only disagreement I have really is the interpretation of NJs, they're young and impressionable and have been working under MHJ for 2~5 years each, giving her plenty of time to manipulate them. I also don't expect them to fully understand every aspect of how their business works, in the same way the average store employee doesn't know how their entire company runs. I think it's a little victim blamey, especially when they are ultimately being harmed by this situation and by MHJ too.
@@TheHaniverse i agree to this but newjeans are directly working and interacting with the CEO of ADOR who is the mastermind and are close to her where as a mere employee of an entire company doesn't directly work with CEO and doesn't work closely with a CEO, so i feel the girls do know what had been happening but they are supporting min hee jin cause she would have manipulated them that if it's not done this way then there's no way for their survival and resenting it as others(hybe) doesn't want the girls to grow, i analyze this from that girls know it's not she who had selected the girls to be the 2021 n team, she is not the one who selected the girls from auditions and she doesn't wanted or thought of taking these girls under her label as she only wanted to have a group for herself and the nteam 2021 happened to be one...... this is known through the dispatch videos this has been know to those girls but those were silent when min heejin keep on saying that she was behind everything when hype boy and attention music and choreography etc everything was done by source music but she took the credit....these things the girls know but thought it's not that much important to let people know it's not min hee jin who was behind these things. It's the same as bang si hyuk asking min hee jin to say Lesserafin is her first girl group she has worked on and she revealed it....lesserafim girls know that they are not min heejins groomed group but they were okay to portray it that way as bang was not confident......everything is fine when it's her but if it's another person who does the same as her then it's a crime in her eyes.
What it means is that Min Hee Jin now can not prosecute her original plan of leaving Hybe with New Jeans without proving herself to be guilty, which she is, I believe. Given that this whole saga started because of this, she has actually not won, just prolonged her legal battle, which ultimately favours Hybe as it now becomes the battle of whose pocket is deeper.
Exactly this! By being too loud and proud, she's actually ended up biting her own tail and backing herself into a corner. HYBE is pretty much the only place she can continue her career now and they are going to do everything in their power to get rid of her!
@TheHaniverse omg, finally somebody who understands that the injunction was not bad or a failure at all! I do not understand how even Armys, with a decade of experience, don't understand how they operate and how smart they are. They'll easily let everybody yap and do the right thing behind closed doors. And when their moves become public, everybody is 🤯. 'We should have trusted them.' Then the next issue arises, and the same thing happens again... Like, can we learn, please? There's blind trust (unreasonable), but there's also a proven track record (reasonable). I can't understand why their own fans are eager to gives them a hard time and demand this or that. Support them! Let them do their jobs! They are professionals.
I think staying in Hybe is the only choice she has in terms of a job. 😂 No one is going to hire her after this dumpster fire of her own making. I really enjoyed your video, glad I came across it!
@@TheHaniverse I went through the timeline you created, I'm glad this exists! I found other information I would not have known otherwise. Thank you for that!
I was surprised that the court thought hurting Hybe didn't hurt Ador. Obviously Hybe losing stock value hurts all of the labels. I agree that Hybe turned it into a win/win, i.e. thay couldn't lose, for them. I think there is a reason that their law firm is number 1.
The court didn't state about how MHJ hurt ADORE or HYBE as their stock price. HYBE asked for the right to fire MHJ regarding to the shareholder contract between HYBE and MHJ. When HYBE sold shares to MHJ, they signed the "slavery" contract that has some contractual clauses, and that is the only way that they could end MHJ contract before 2025.
Yes, I did try to explain this in the video but it got rambly so I cut it out. In essence, I think it comes down to, she didn't actually 'do' anything as far as the court is concerned. She planned things in pain staking detail, but because the event where she met the investors (and many others who weren't investors), they can't say she's taken any affirmative actions. Also, her original plan was to blackmail HYBE into basically giving her ADOR, whilst securing investors to make up for the lost financial supports - in that essence, ADOR wouldn't be harmed if things went how she wanted them. But yes, I agree they aren't the number 1 law firm for no reason, they definitely have a plan and they're essentially caging her in.
The swiftness with which Hybe moved after the ruling was telling. If Hybe had actually won the injunction and fired her, the money they would have had to pay her (per the contract) would have been a ridiculous amount, and not in anyone's best interests except for MHJ...and Hybe would have lost New Jeans. But, as others have stated, making her a lame duck within days of the ruling puts all the power back into Hybe's hands, and Hybe can now proceed with the criminal case against her while keeping her under their thumb. At first I thought that Hybe wasn't doing a good job at making their case for the injunction. But directly afterwards, I was like, "Oh! Brilliant feint, Hybe!" So now Hybe has MHJ, New Jeans, and Ador under their control, and I can't believe that Hybe's lawyers are so incompetent as to have placed all of their cards on the table for MHJ's lawyers to have access to. I personally think that Hybe sacrificed the injunction with higher goals in mind (ie: proving MHJ guilty and having to relinquish New Jeans/Ador to Hybe.) I also don't think that Hybe is super interested in what SK's netizens think about them as a company, so long as they can support and protect their artists.
Yes! I completely agree with you, especially the last part. Ive said it time and time again in private conversations but kpop companies dont need to care what the public or even the fans think of them, we arent here to support the company, we're here to support the idols. I honestly think there needs to be more separation between the idols and companies' images too
Just my opinion, I think the court was pointing out to Hybe that there are big flaws in their system. I think they were basically showing them that the contract they drew out for MHJ does not protect the parent company from any treachery she may commit. They really were too generous with her! They not only set up a whole label for her, they gave her 20% share in it, as well as free reign. They gave her too much power, and did not do anything to protect themselves in case something goes awry. It's like the court was saying "there's a fatal flaw in your system, you gotta fix this mess if you wanna protect yourselves." It looks like tough love, and I can respect that.
My 1st suspension was that Hybe was aware that they would lose, but knew that they could control her later. I believed they just wanted to show the public through leaks strategically what they were actually dealing with. She would have gotten them had not someone inside reported. She had a iron clad contract, but I knew that corporate law would allow them to release the 2 directors due to they were not protected. They handled everything professionally, the public wasn’t aware of their actions. They can also add a Co CEO, which I think they will do in the future. Patience!!!
I was surprised but not after I read the ruling. I understood the logic of the judge. I would be surprise if Hybe has not made a lot of different contingency plans for a variety of different out comes though. Basically it's a lesson learned by Hybe, but like you, I think she is done for. It's just a matter of time. I just hope NJS doesn't suffer because MHJ is definitely going to be a thorn in Hybe's side. Like the current sticker situation happening now. They seemed to have a lost a little bit of support already. I expect Hybe to clean house at Ador now and fire a bunch of people who might have been in league with MHJ and replace them with people more inline with Hybe's way of thinking. All of which will take time. Hopefully by then the criminal cases will be decided one way or another.
I couldn't agree more, I see NJs as victims in this situation as much as any other artist who've been mentioned thus far, so I really hope they're protected from her now that HYBE are keeping an eye on MHJ. Also, I'm not familiar with the sticker situation, could you explain what's happening? :O I might be misunderstanding or maybe I've missed something.
@TheHaniverse Aespa stickers were put all around the HYBE building. At first NJS were being accused of doing it. But now I just MHJ is taking the blame for it, but the damage is done to NJS
Oh my, that's very childish, but if anyone its likely aespa fans. Whatever the case, I think its too small to make a significant impact so dont worry about it too much
The question is did they finally get her laptop and does it even matter? Depending on the laws in S. Korea, often an employer can get into a company owned laptop remotely. I’ve been following the case closely and agree with you. I have heard that there will also be a co-CEO appointed in addition to replacing those two VPs with three Hybe employees. Time will tell. Also, love your necklace! Isn’t it from the BTS Monochrome line?
I don't believe she did ever return the laptop, but you are right about the remote access. All the KakaoTalk messages they got and leaked were from their internal server because she logged in on her work laptop, and considering they're likely going to focus on the criminal cases, I don't think the laptop is useful anymore. Also yes, I've been hearing that too, I'm curious to see who they will appoint and how she will react moving forward; they're really closing in all the walls around her. Also yes, incredible eye! 👀 It's the necklace and silver ring! Thank you for the compliment and for watching! 💜
I honestly really doubt she will quit herself, she has nowhere to go now because her plan got messed up by being revealed earlier than she anticipated. No one in their right mind will work with her in Korea, because that's basically like making yourself a public enemy of HYBE. I also feel like HYBE already gave her the chance to resign and she refused, so now they are going to go after her, no mercy.
Esta reconocido con un coeficiente muy alto igual que RM. Antes de iniciar su propia compañía se dedicaba a componer música. Dicen que todo lo que hacía triunfaba por eso lo apodaron Hitman. Al hacer equipo con BTS lograron magníficos resultados. También es humano y erro con Mhj, pero lo va a arreglar. Se me hace injusto la cantidad de insultos que recibe. Lo bueno es que Bts es fiel a BangPD.
I think he's a great producer but I'm not sure about business man, he's made a few blunders but I believe his heart has always been in the right place, unfortunately he met people who knew how to take advantage of him.
@@margaritamunoz4886 I totally agree with you! He has always been music focused and never planned for BigHit to become this massive corporation, that's why he handed over the CEO position. He's made a few mistakes, but he's a human and not really a business man, so I'm sure this has been a learning experience for him.
I just want to say that I totally agree with you on Min Hee Jin’s character. She is the classic narcissist and did not hold back on involving the young girls of New Jeans. It’s sad that their parents could not see this, but there are always blind followers to narcissists. I am hoping that you are correct that Hybe has a master plan, but I want her exposed for all to see who she really is. She is destructive, but will always see herself as the victim -and because of that, she will continue to do whatever she wants.
For me, that's genuinely the thing I find most frustrating, the fact that at the end of all of this, she will truly believe she is the victim and that she did nothing wrong. It's wild to me that people can fall for their own delusions to that extent but oh well
original reaction: I thought the injunction ruling was just a short break for her since a bigger case is still underway. More is coming out about her "creative process (copying) every day post video update: I agree that, in the end, she really didn't win much. She probably seen as a pariah at the HYBE building so I doubt she leaves the 16th floor. Who would want to be seen talking to her, her days there are numbered. She mentioned she told NJ members they shouldn't renew their contracts when they expire so her "leave ADOR an empty shell" can still be in work. I do feel sorry for NJ members, of course they are showing loyalty to the CEO they know but when I look at them it is with pity that they are so under her spell. I think NJs will succeed without MHJ
NJ are all young and impressionable. They may have been so imprinted onto MHJ that they can’t be retrained or corrected in their way of thinking to actually be able to work for anyone else. They may have to just wait til contracts expire then regroup under what ever label she creates in the future. But they will all be older then and may be out of their charms by then
Thank you for participating in the challenge! And I see where you're coming from with the 'don't renew your contracts' thing, but I think the thing is, it will be a while before it gets to that point and HYEB will have time to undo her mental conditioning, so there's still hope. Also, no one thing I've noticed is how unite the parents of NJs have been throughout this too, if there came a situation where some members wanted to leave HYBE and others stay, I think they'd pick staying together as a group in HYBE than risking breaking up. Not to mention it would be hard for MHJ to start a new company with all her investors pulling out and the massive fines she will likely have to pay for all she's done. I won't say it's impossible, but it would be extremely risky (and unlikely) for NJs to want to follow her at that point.
@@elaineOiwish oooh very valid point about not being able to correct their thinking. I hope it isn't to that degree but it's definitely a possibility :ccc
I personally wanted HYBE to win, because of the bad perception about Bang Pd and HYBE that people had after MHJ press conference. Both press conferences represented the art of manipulation that is representing her true gift and artistry. MHJ first appearance as a homeless woman who didn't have the time to make a shower and the to brush her hair, because of the evil men bosses that she has, created a bad impression about Bang Pd and HYBE. After that HYBE must've regrouped and must've changed the strategies. It is right thst they liked some messages or MHJ comments about people and artists around HYBE, but they definitely not expected MHJ to be so good at manipulation public opinion. After 17th of May, I knew that HYBE will not present any evidence that they want to be exposed in the criminal trail against MHJ&co. It wasn't in their interest that MHJ lawyers to find out about that, and prepare in advance for the trial. Because, if the Dunamu official went to HYBE, to tell about MHJ approach, it would be for sure that, that person gave a writeen statement about the meeting. Even MHJ's lawyers said, that HYBE is inventing about that, and she met with some acquaintances of an acquaintance, because they didn't give any evidence. So, I believe that HYBE didn't fight hard in the injunction trial. HYBE gave to the court enough evidence to make the judge to rule in the way he did, and also to state in HYBE favour when it was about: -MHJ plan against HYBE, -MHJ betraying HYBE, -MHJ trying to get more money for her put option (that means that she can sell back to HYBE a package of her shares at a certain price, share value ×13), MHJ wanted to raise to 30 times, -MHJ wanted to get HYBE approval in her shareholder contract, to be the only one that can terminate NJ girls contracts and to make ADORE a empty shell as she planed with her Vp in 1945 file. HYBE won in the injunction trial a written document from a judgement court, about some of the illegal things that MHJ&co did against HYBE. That's means, HYBE don't have to prove with more evidences if they don't want. Also, I think that HYBE knew from the beginning that MHJ can be cut off from the CEO duties in different ways. They asked MHJ to resign from her position, already knowing that she will not give up ADORE. The replacement of 2 directors with 3, that can cover most of the CEO duties and putting a co-CEO on ADORE, not only will undermine MHJ authority in ADORE, it will keep MHJ away from NJ girls, and in the end, will completely cut her off. For sure that will make MHJ to go mad, and I think she will be in the spotlight as she likes, and she will cry again in front of the cameras, because the evil HYBE doesn't wants to cooperate with, her for the good sake of New Jeans.
before video - I was suprised, bc I thought they give a lot of reasons so she wouldn't get injunction especially with how much they own of company, if she had normal cotract they could literally dismiss her without reasons simply bc... but she really had contract that protected her and she played with lines here, but my after first "really?" thought and reading this stupid explanation that by law made sens but by normal eye was bulls*it, and what I mean that judge literally said that he see what she was planing, etc., it looks bad, but at this moment she didn't really did anything agnist her contract... yes I understand it but it is ehh... So next thoughts was "ok she has to stay for some time, temporary injuction, is a temporary mechanism... also she can stay but not her team. I also remember that Hybe did also started criminal case agnist her, so yeah... they can't really harass her obviously but they for sure put her on leash and also they will look at her hands and moves like 300x times more closely. I knew they had person prepared for Ador so I knew they still will put this person there, they also side before that Ador was only one company under hybe that had differnet system and they want to put this two person system there too, so I knew they will make moves in this way. I personally think that after NJ stops promoting things they have planed already should go on break for whatever reason. but they should have pause. after hearing what she said in conference after and interviews in my mind only was "there is no saving for this women", I knew she wpuld stand bby her actions decisions and opinions but she literally drip in narcism... I was wondering what is her plan bc she really things she will play hybe and "win" in the end. now lets see video.. So after watching video.... sorry but you really didn't say anything I didn't know, and didn't change my thinking in any way... hmm I only say I don't know if this was the plan, but I think they were preparing for this situation.
@@TheHaniverse i simply think nowdays people really give up of knowlage, it may seems harash but we have so many ways to check things out, to search for info, do some deep dives or even simply look up facts not opinions... But people really let go of this, they listen to loudest voice or to this that have biggest tears and sometimes take silence as guilt or confession. And of course there are people that say truth in that way, but more often people make decisions on one opinion or even worst on one headline, don't even read what is writen, not to say some things are wrote in a way that you have to read 3 times to get bc it is made especially hard bc they want to be vouge... But going back to this case, I honestly don't have opinion on Hybe, i know ot is company and company exist to do buissnes and earn money do I don't have some delelu view thatthey are good or bad they are what they are suposted to be machine to help and to get, but I also think they are quiet fair with their subcompanies, that is way I was a little shocked how much she got and taked and talked them into with her contract and freedom... But the moment they saw it goes too far all hit the fan. I agree with you she is good at her job, like her job was branding and branding herself as victime was great performance, now she wants to look like sweet and open minded person that is bigger person wich is stupid but looks good in media in a way, but no normal person would trust her, when she is like bag on the wind...not to say how people can think it lookngood when at first conference she was cursing company, people working there, groups under them, and now she call it "I was little emotional but let it go to the past"? How someone can see this two things and say yeah she is right 🤦🏻♀️ I honestly don't know how it is around the world but I had in collage clasees about manipulation to see it and use it, it sounds worse then it is bc my classes was in context of talking to big groups, to get attention, to be heard, but we also talked about different ways bc as long you know something exist you can see it happend and he ready, and she literally took book and checked all what was needed to be done to be on top... Eh She never answers question that reporters ask but talks about whatever she wants, i'm quiet angry and I only see it from far, If I would be person that have to sit there listen to it, and I did my research and knew all info that come out I would feld so disrespected by her. I remember now that you said at the end of video that parents have now their own legal team, I didn't hear about it?
I completely agree with you, its frustrating people don't see through her act, but it's also understandable that people are confused because she always beats aroud the bush and dodges questions to cause confusion. Regarding the parents, as far as I can tell it's a rumor at this point, that's why I say they may bmhave gotten their own lawyers. Unfortunately I'm not 100% sure myself
the key statement on breach of trust is it should be against Ador. since Hybe mostly presented ill-doings of MNJ to Hybe, it was not the point of the injunction case. So now MHJ will be facing her real battle for the betrayal against Hybe. Perhaps she has done worse things that's why the laptop is not being returned.
At first I was very upset she won. Then I saw that it just keeps her chained-preventing her from continuing her sabotage-like she deserves. I also agree that HYBE emphasized the wrong details. They shouldn’t have said NJ would go on a long hiatus and that they can manage NJ without her. I like your theory that HYBE wanted this to happen! And so true! She was free, with all the money and perks and now she’s lost her freedom and no more new perks for her I’m sure. And I’m loving the karma!
But HYBE did NOT say NJ's would go on along hiatus. They simply said it would take at least a year to find them and Grammy nominated/winner Producer that doesn't mean they'll do nothing with them while they are sourcing this Grammy Producer. They already have a Producer they can continue working with while they wait for the 'Grammy Producer'.
oooh 'karma' is the perfect word for this! It really is just that - I can't imagine having all that given to me and fumbling so badly because I got greedy 💀
I am thinking. Could mhj have planned with the other vp that they would get fired so they can go and collect investors while she is being watched? Because now that they are fired i dont think ot is allowed for hybe to follow them. She oviously talk to them still or else they would have helped hybe or go online to witness against her
WOW! VERY interesting theory! I wouldn't rule it out, but I also think finding investors would be hard. I think people who work in this industry are seeing right through MHJ, especially as they likely have experience with various companies (including HYBE) and may be able to verify much more than the public. Siding with her now would also make you public enemy of HYBE, which just doesn't seem like a good look, that's exactly why one of her potential investors ran to tell HYBE before there was a conflict of interests. Also, I think it's important to remember that as VPs, they won't have as much financial power and social influence as her. MHJ was able to win sympathy as a female CEO with a long history in Kpop, but these guys are just regular dudes to the public - I feel like staying quiet is more for their own protection, especially because I doubt MHJ would do much to protect them...
My reaction when I saw her first interview: This is the most narcissistic, manipulative woman I have ever seen and I see right through the crocodile tears. It was so obvious to me that I thought EVERYONE would agree with me. 😂 Before watching your video: I was appalled! I couldn’t believe or understand how the judge seemed to bend over backwards to find a way to grant the injunction, BUT I just saw it as temporary win. I never thought it was over. To me it was like winning a battle, but maybe (hopefully) not the war.
☕🍩Excellent Synopsis!☕🍩To Note: Hybe doesn't like to lose!☕They didn't want to lose!☕ 🍩☕However, I do agree that it was [conceived 2-3 yrs prior]!☕The Key is the [Shaman]Character! ☕🍩Just take a look at who financed the [Shaman]Character!🍩☕The Scheme was seeded!☕
My opinion before watching the video, is I think the injunction verdict was bad for hybe but hybe still has the upperhand. Mhj is going broke. She said in the second conference she used up all her hybe money on lawyer fees. Hybe can keep trying to fire her and with each injunction mhj will file she'll go into debt. They can make her want to quit too on a more personal level. Like forcing her to work with belift etc
Do you really believe she's used up all her money she had from HYBE I don't. She's lies all the time when it suits her purpose. She's a multi millionaire she had money before entering HYBE from all those years working at SM and she's the highest paid CEO at HYBE.
The idea of HYBE forcing her to work with BELIFT actually made be burst out laughing - that would be too good! They're already forcing her to work with another woman (one of the 3 VPs) which we know she wouldn't be happy about from her KKT messages, so I wouldn't put it past them! Making ILLIT and NJs collab could also be a great way to rub salt in the wound too. Also I didn't know about the going broke comment (as I haven't watched her second conference yet), but I expected as much. There is no way she'd be able to maintain a long relationship with the firm she's using out of her own pocket and they'll definitely cut her off once she stops paying and it becomes a clearly losing battle for them too.
@@TheHaniverse No poor ILLIT and BELIFT that's not fair on them. They shouldn't be saddled with having to 'put up' with Ms Min or NJ's right now, that's just too cruel to ILLIT and BELIFT.
My initial reaction was disappointment but not surprised really. This really just gives Hybe more time to gain more information and receipts for that info. It really opened the true ARMYs eyes to how she appreciates their support for NJ. I say ‘true ARMY’ bc I don’t think the funeral wreaths were from them. ARMY wouldn’t waste that much money for a pointless NEGATIVE stunt IMO. The guys are still shareholders in Hybe so was against them as well in some respects. I want to know who was behind those in the name of ARMY.sounds like an AH stunt. My other question is how does the new ruling by the gov regarding underaged idols and such affect NJ? There is a limit to how many hrs of work and training even a 15 yr old can do. The youngest member just turned 15. I would think that would make it harder to do a world tour and still comply.
The ruling reopened the door for the Hybe criminal complaint, as the ruling stated Hybe cannot investigate any alleged criminality they think she engaged in!!!!!! Time to turn in her laptop and cell phone to the police!!!! 😅😂🤣 She's toast!!!!
They found out that, before the funeral wreaths appeared in front of HYBE building, some twitter accounts were made and asked for money, or get money to "fight" against BSH and HYBE. They get very quickly money, if I remember correctly it was in first day more than 15 thousand dollars, maybe I am wrong but it was a big amount of Korean money in a very short time. It was like MHJ supporters waited for someone to open a twitter account, and then they can open their wallets. What is more interesting it's that the accounts were closed after the protest campaign of NJ fans and "Army" against HYBE.
@@Laralara-b6d Because in many cases, like the media, the police are motivated by public opinion!!!! They move like molasses!!!! They requested it back in May, but when MHJ filed the injunction, the police didn't want to appear like bullies doing Hybe's dirty work.
@@Laralara-b6d I suppose that they will ask when the police will interrogate her. But I think, that MHJ can say that she lost it, or even is destroyed, because of something, but that is tricky because she can be accused of destroying evidences. I personally think that MHJ was told to destroy the laptop, to prevent recovery of files from it.
She doesn't want to harm ADOR however, she is employed by HYBE: the ruling was made to show that it doesn't matter who you are, a person who is smaller than you can win a case against you. However, the court also gave the bigger person a chance, if you want to really fire her, make a payout of $14m, it would be over their d3d body to pay her to leave. Hybe didn't throw the case away, they thought that they would win . If they had made the necessary steps to show that they have someone in place. That has given them a lessson. You have to be detailed and focussed on one thing. The wins here for hybe are that Mhj did another press conference which showed people that actually she is more calculative than they initially thought. Her name has been more tarnished than hybe's. Why I say so is that many people won't want to work with her, she probably will have to make her own business. Yes she will still have connections however, they too will be wary of her. Including her best friends. She showed that she didn't care about the VPs - look at how she answered the text, that I have no clue why these guys were bending over for someone who wasn't giving you much to go with. Now they lost their jobs, who is going to employ them easily. Another win, regardless of the girls still thanking her plus their parents; none of them trust her as they did before. No one speaks ill about your child and you still have those meet ups frequently. Hybe have learnt a huge lesson from this, all contracts in Hybe are going to be switched up, not just for CEOs, for every employee in Hybe. It maybe take longer to look at all of them however, they will do so. Another win, like you said, regardless of whether she wins or not including the defamation case, her working relationships with all the people at hybe have gone cold. She can no longer walk into hybe with confidence. Everyone is going to keep it professional. Btw, I hope she never works with members again( and just like op, I don't like hybe however, I know that mhj crossed the line). I don't understand how these people couldn't read her. Mhj claimed plagiarism for njs but failed to claim plagiarism when anotther artist released a project very similar to what she had worked on for Hybe - so to me all her claims are baseless. It is similar to how she uses her dressing to win public support. - The day of her leaving will come, however, with Kpop you can never know how things pan out. If she was anywhere in the West, her refusal to attend the meeting would have suspended her with immediate effect, and refusal of handing over the laptop, it would have meant dismissal.
I hope hybe chooses #1 bc I think it's the fastest. I don't want mhj cashing in her shares 😡 this year. Hybe should hire a co-ceo for ador n let the public see new jeans is fine without mhj
I totally agree, I would hate to see her walk out of this with any cash in hand, but I do think #3 could potentially be resolved before Nov this year (the earliest she can cash out and quit), and if all goes to plan, we might see her walk out in handcuffs instead (not literally, but yeah! 😂)
@@TheHaniverse Yeah. You're saying that losing the injuction is part of HYBE's grand plan, it's obvious who your master is. The only positive thing is that you are clear that everything is a setup by HYBE to fire MHJ looking for any excuse.
She is a lame duck CEO 😂😂 I told the MHJ supporters don't take a victory lap just yet because she is for the fight of her lifetime. HYBE has gone full petty mode on MHJ and she won't make it until 2026 when her contract expires.
I can literally start sobbing if I think of something sad enough - if I then say I'm crying for something different to what I'm thinking about, are my tears real or not? Crying doesn't automatically make someone honest
@@TheHaniverse Wow.. if that is the case then i think she ought to be an actress instead of ceo for gg. She will win all the accolades n money that she wants. Btw are you based in Seoul and worked for the kpop industry. I came across one juz now. I am trying to get to the truth of the matter and your channel came up in my search list.
@altsen9239 hey dear, yes I live in Seoul, and I worked in the industry until last year Feb (I worked for 2 years in the marketing side for md, contents, fan events, award shows etc and have met a few idols while working), I'm currently on a break from the industry but hope to return by the end of this year :3 If you want a clear breakdown, I recommend my blog post linked in my bio. I clearly indicated what is facts and what is accusations from.each side, so it should be helpful for you to determine your own opinion without bias
Totally fair, but the reality is the facts will never be fully available to us, so to some degree we need to use logic and reasoning to fill the gaps. I did state throughout the video that this is just what I think, but the writing seems pretty on the wall to me.
Based on the facts I predicted what would happened and the only thing I got wrong was the number of people HYBE would install in ADOR. I predicted they'd remove her 2 main people which they did but didn't think they might add a 3rd person. I worked out from the Judge's summing up that HYBE would continue with the Criminal case which is now lodged with the Police. So when working on facts it's far easier to work out what was coming next and I did just that. I used my brain.
@@eileencritchley4630 Good on you. It’s a can of spaghetti sorting through all this fake news as facts and hater’s drivel. The only wild card is Korean Judicial system and labyrinth of corruption. But, well done you.
BSH is the architect of BTS. That kind of project is only done by a genius. I watched BSH speak and propose a new take on the Kpop industry. That was a genius plan but will need an open minded person.I saw this at the start because it doesn't add up. There must be more to this than MHJ. It is much , much more. And it will shock the Korean industry when everything comes to light. It is not for us to say but let us watch!
When did I ever say she didn't win? 😅 maybe you're the one who doesn't understand Korean or English. She got a temporary injunction and is still being sued by Belift. My 'opinions' are about the future, not the current case, and I literally explained why she was able to win this case It's okay not to have an opinion if you can't understand 🙂
What was your initial reaction to Min Hee Jin's win? 🤔
Do a nice piece on narcissistic personality disorder with sociopathic tendencies! Use the narcissist acronym SPECIAL ME and tie it to MHJ!!!!! 😅😂🤣 Also, sociopathic behaviors include, lack of empathy, deceitfulness, hostility, antisocial behaviors, among a few!! That's why I believe MHJ to be a classic narcissist with sociopathic tendencies! Interesting topic to tackle! 🤔 🧐 🤔
I was excited 🥰 NewJeans is safe PHEW lol
I was initially shocked when she won the injunction, but after reading the judgment, it was pretty clear she'd won nothing more than extra time to dig herself a deeper hole. I still haven't found an answer to one particular question though, and maybe you can give me an informed answer. Before the injunction even went to court, I thought I read that her contract could only be terminated prior to it's expiration by the Adore board of directors, which at that time was only MHJ & her two executive officers. Hybe terminated the other two & replaced them with three of their own people. Since the temporary injunction ruling was only against Hybe & NOT Adore, could those new people, who are now officially Adore board members, vote to oust her at any time? (if what I read initially was correct and it was determined to be in the best interest of Adore by those 3 members, of course) Also, the judgment specifically states that HYBE could not vote to dismiss her in the May 31st board meeting. In the US, the specificity of "ON MAY31..." alone could conceivably be enough to allow Hybe a loophole to reconvene & vote to dismiss her as early as one week later (of course, she would likely file another injunction in the event that happened). I may be reaching as I'm not very familiar with Korean law. In the US, nothing in a legal decision is typically left to chance, and judgments must be very specific in the wording and every possible effort is made to circumvent any future misinterpretation. Your theories are among the most well thought out I've heard. Thank you so much!
@@nataliacoggins6769 Honestly I'm strongly considering it, but I'm also not a psychologist and as I mentioned, you can be sued for defamation even if what you're saying is true, and I don't want a lawsuit XD
@@LoveButterfly999 For now! Remember the injunction is only temporary as I said. It's very likely HYBE will kick her out in the long run, even if they have to wait until her employment contract runs out in Nov 2026 🤧
I remember thinking they'll go for the next plan they'll remove her key people make her a a lame duck CEO. Didn't know they'd put an extra person in though. I looked at the what the judge said and realised he was telling HYBE what to legally to do next go after her in a criminal trial as he said she had betrayed HYBE I notice he said HYBE not ADOR. And what happened that's what HYBE have done and it's now in the hands of the police.
Don't mess with HYBE they don't say much or show their hand before they have all their cards they require in their hands.
Couldn't agree more! There is no way they 'messed up' on this case, they simply deemed it not important because they have much bigger cards to play!
@@TheHaniverse I kinda think it was even important to lose (an irrelavant case), to make their opponents feel secure and show more of their hand. Smugness never wins.
I was surprised and pissed off at first. Later I thought that this will not be the end and no matter what happens I am done with her and New Jeans. I also want to say that it is not about being pro HYBE but being against MHJ because of the hate she spreads, the damage she does to artists and her greed.
I completely agree with you. While I personally don't hold anything against NJs, there is now this unpleasant association that I think is so sad. I have no ill will against them but I pretty much skip 'How Sweet' every time it comes up on my spotify because it stresses me out thinking about everything :/ MHJ has basically ruined the career of the idol she swore she was trying to save.
@@TheHaniverse I don't like them as they act like entitled brats. That behaviour would not be tolerated where I come from.
I also wanted Hybe to win and have her injunction dismissed! However, when I carefully read the ruling and found she won the TEMPORARY injunction was because of a legal loophole in their contract - it called for breach of trust, etc against Ador only - and didn't cover these types of business transgressions against MHJ's parent company, Hybe!!!!! These transgressions, involving possible criminality was out of their scope and this jurisdiction falls to the police to investigate!!! This clears the way for the Hybe criminal complaint they filed in April/May to proceed. The judges then stated, MHJ had been engaged in shady business to harm Hybe and, as a parent company, Hybe had full rights to fire/hire other Ador executives and board members, as they didn't have Hybe contracts like MHJ!!!! Hybe needed full clarifications made public by judges in a ruling to not look vindictive, but just and correct in actions protecting themselves. Genius move!!!!! This is what they wanted in the judgement, which makes her a lame duck CEO!!!! This ruling also cleared the way for Hybe to end all special considerations for Ador and NJ and impose the standard rates for rent, etc orher Hybe owned companies pay!!!!
That's why she called for a truce, to put things behind and tried a "let's make nice" appeal and get along!!!! Hybe knows she's a snake in grass! However, they must also recognize she's a narcissist with sociopathic tendencies and this makes her dangerous, even without power!!!
For those who want to know about narcissist behaviour, look to the narcissist acronym SPECIAL ME!!!! It'll all fit with every action she's publicly displayed! 😅😂🤣
In her second news conference, MHJ tried to appeal by stating, I'm only human!!!! To which I state, so was Jeffrey Dahmer!!!!! 😅😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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This is an astute comment
I couldn't agree more with everything you've said, and I'm so glad to see that people are finally getting it. I just hope those who still support her can wake up and see the reality she herself is showing. It's crazy that she is literally the one harming NJs right now and yet they all believe and trust her without a doubt!
I would say so where the' Kray Brothers' 60's London mobsters twin brothers as I don't know who Jeffery Dahmer is.
Hello all, I forget to state the sociopathic tendencies and/or behaviors!!!! Here goes:
-- lack empathy
-- antisocial behaviors
-- deceitfulness
-- hostility, aggression
-- manipulative
-- lack of restraint, irresponsibility
Sounds a lot like MHJ!!!!! 🤔 🤔 🤣 🤣
I was a little surprised but then I thought it through again. I agree with everything you said! With a co-CEO since last week, a new board and 2 new directors MHJ is completely paralyzed. If she complains now it is ADOR she is complaining against. So smart. She has been completely outsmarted every step of the way. It should be interesting but I predict she is done.. Also HYBE now saying they will take legal action against slander opens the door to their attny’s tracking down the original culprit. She has already been implicated in BOT puff posts for NJ it’s not a far stretch to think she could have negative BOTS also. I hate lying and cheating and manipulation. TY!
Hahaha! 🤣
I totally agree with you, but I wanted to clear up one thing. The current defamation case is for ILLIT - they are basically claiming that MHJ's claims of plagiarism were unfounded and hurt the group/company's business opportunities. If they can prove even one deal that was cancelled after her statements, they can prove damages caused by MHJ. Furthermore, MHJ making those accusations publically serve no purpose beyond slander, they are of no benefit to the public, so even if the judge agrees she is right about the plagiarism, she can still be sued for defamation, because this could have been handled in private.
She won her injunction but that's all, nothing more. She can paint it any way she likes it's a like a game of chess were one side allows a pawn to be taken in order to achieve Check Mate or in a war, where you plan to 'lose' a battle (fawn defeat) in order to draw the enemy into a trap to win the war.
Exactly!!! People are seeing this injunction as the war when it's really just one battle and there's still so much yet to come. The criminal charges against her are going to be huge in the next few weeks, and she can beg for a truce all she once, but just like with how HYBE treats antis, they're going to have a zero-settlement policy with her too.
@@TheHaniverseCorrect, 'No out of court settlement, no Leniency Policy'
@@eileencritchley4630 Yay, Eileen, you really got these analogies down pat! I'm convinced they fake fawned and took a strategic defeat, as well. Autumn will be wild, we'll need to wrap this up soon and decicively.
I was disappointed by the decision as I would have liked a clean break as quickly as possible. But it is pyrrhic victory for her. She has close supervision from the new board, she still faces criminal charges, and it gives HYBE time to get a replacement and subsequently prevent disruption for New Jeans. None of this will be comfortable for her. Even if she hangs on until Nov ‘26, she can’t leave with New Jeans without them buying out the contract (which runs until 2029 if the standard 7 year contract)and her ability to raise money as you said will be severely curtailed. Who would trust her? HYBE has never been more motivated to support Le Seraphim and ILLIT, so she can expect even more intense competition. If NJ results decline then she can be seen as having damaged ADOR assets and she can be fired on this basis as well. In a war of attrition the party with the most resources will always win, and that’s HYBE.
It isn't in HYBE interest to let NJ to go down, because NJ isn't MHJ asset or only ADORE's asset HYBE is interested in their success, because has to get the investment money back and also the profit. What MHJ stated that she (ADORE) made big money for HYBE it isn't true. Last year ADORE contributed with 5% on HYBE profit.
The shareholders interest that HYBE represents is to take dividends, so HYBE has to support NJ in the future, and make them successful.
If NJ girls want to go away from HYBE, and to pay the money for ending contracts, they are free to go.
@@mona.cabocmona303 I agree, they have an interest in NJ’s success but no more so than the other girl groups and one might even argue that their trust in NJ has been irretrievably broken, so they can hedge their bets. One of these groups will rise to the top and again arguably they would rather that be LS or ILLIT.
@@anneprendergast7834I think the new pretty talented gg KATSEYE has a very big potential to be one of the biggest in the world
Beautifully said! And I think she knows it too. She had hoped to kick this all of as a heroic 'whistleblower' but HYBE announcing the audit basically beat her to the punch and now she's doing everything to save face and distract from the allegations because she knows she can't convincingly deny them. Once she's kicked out there will be nowhere for her to go, and hopefully by then HYBE would have undone the conditioning she's done to the NJ members and proven their reliability to their parents.
Ultimately I feel the same, I really want this to be over sooner rather than later because it's only going to do more damage to everyone involved (and not involved, eg, BTS)
@@TheHaniverse Hybe really needed and wanted at least one strong GG. Now they have at least two of them. No idea how NJ will turn out.
But LS and Illit fans are baptized by fire. Army will protect BTS no matter what. And Hybe has several other strong BGs and solo acts.
I think MHJ might just bite her own ass until eternity for how she strengthened Hybe in the end.
0:35 I’m gonna leave my opinion before you start and see if we’re on the same wavelength. I think it’s the best possible outcome that MHJ won. She’s repeatedly said she wants to stay. Excellent! So now HYBE is not the big bad guy and she has her precious job. But in name only for all intents and purposes. She has the top executives of each department, who I’m guessing are not her biggest fans, watching her every move. Monitoring every financial and creative decision she makes. Her first press conference she was really vocal about how much she hates not being able to have the freedom to do whatever she wants, and now she’s trapped in her worst nightmare. And HYBE can wait for the court to convict her of her crimes. She will leave that company as a disgraced criminal, convicted of trying to do HYBE damage and HYBE just has to patiently wait for her to dig her own reputation’s grave. I’m here for it. Go do that job you love so much with those kids that are like your own children, making more money than any other executive there. Have a great time at the office.
HAHAHAHAHA this comment actually killed me, I love it! XD I also couldn't agree more! She swore up and down that she hated HYBE in the beginning but now she's begging to stay, not realising she's made it into the exact slave cell she claimed it was. They are going to keep her on a short leash while she digs her own grave, and I fully agree she is going to leave as a disgraced criminal! I'm so glad we are on the same page!
@@TheHaniverse Oh 100% I loved your video. And I’m glad that you brought up the fact that HYBE lawyers didn’t show out at that hearing. TBH it would have been a waste of their time because she was never accused of hurting ADOR. But at the same time, they got the judge to publicly state that HYBE absolutely has a case against her and that’s a verryyy bad look for her. Everyone that thinks that win was good for her or proved her innocence is very mistaken or is just reading the headlines that she won something. Also, those texts oh her talking smack about her “children” found their audience, I think. HYBE was the clear winner in this situation. I’m not a HYBE stan I don’t believe in being a fan of a company, they’re all bad to varying degrees. But I do loathe that woman, and I know it sounds terrible, but her downfall is like Christmas. 🥰 Also, you rock. Subscribed!
I couldn't agree more! It was so obvious she never cared about NJs, even from her own words, she's only centered on herself and never mentioned her staff or the members contribution 🙄 I will absolutely rest well the day she's dragged out of there kicking and screaming by the police.
Also thank you so much for the sub 🥹🙏🏾 if you have any video requests, please lemme know any time!
I am glad I came across this channel. I will however highly recommend that people watch what Seoulitetv has reported on this matter. MHJ is twisted and has long been planning this (since 2021). Note this is before the NJ debut. She is behind the whole mess of defamation against other artists and supposed scandals. The irony is that in crying plagiarism to sway attention from her true crimes, she has been exposed as one of the biggest plagiarists herself so she isn’t that original or a creative genius after all! Her treachery is unbelievable. Now I am of the belief that the parents were strategically involved in this matter but also strongly feel that it is not normal for them not to react negatively against MHJ after seeing those vile kakao messages so either they have been convinced these were manipulated somehow or they in it for some kind of money. The group is also not that naive and have been disappointing. They should have kept quiet and waited for this whole thing to be finalised. I am not sorry to say this but these girls have had such a great opportunity to debut in the biggest kpop company with a big budget for their debut, resources, contacts, platform and that 16th floor. To look upon all of that and think that their success is only fuelled by their CEO is ridiculous. I pick up no genuine humility because their success was relatively guaranteed and easy. Those who did not have that when they debuted know the struggle, the fatigue, the hard work and perseverance as well as dedication it takes to make their dream work and are still humble despite being super successful! BTS and Seventeen come to mind as some of the examples! If they continue supporting that narcissist, it will blow up in their face sooner or later
Hi, thank you for your comment and I'm glad you've enjoyed my videos so far! I watch SeouliteTV myself and I agree with a lot of what he says too, and I've also mentioned a lot of what you've said in previous videos. The only disagreement I have really is the interpretation of NJs, they're young and impressionable and have been working under MHJ for 2~5 years each, giving her plenty of time to manipulate them. I also don't expect them to fully understand every aspect of how their business works, in the same way the average store employee doesn't know how their entire company runs. I think it's a little victim blamey, especially when they are ultimately being harmed by this situation and by MHJ too.
@@TheHaniverse Victims hurting others and creating more victims need to be stopped first, then we can tend to them, too. Is how I see it.
@@TheHaniverse i agree to this but newjeans are directly working and interacting with the CEO of ADOR who is the mastermind and are close to her where as a mere employee of an entire company doesn't directly work with CEO and doesn't work closely with a CEO, so i feel the girls do know what had been happening but they are supporting min hee jin cause she would have manipulated them that if it's not done this way then there's no way for their survival and resenting it as others(hybe) doesn't want the girls to grow, i analyze this from that girls know it's not she who had selected the girls to be the 2021 n team, she is not the one who selected the girls from auditions and she doesn't wanted or thought of taking these girls under her label as she only wanted to have a group for herself and the nteam 2021 happened to be one...... this is known through the dispatch videos this has been know to those girls but those were silent when min heejin keep on saying that she was behind everything when hype boy and attention music and choreography etc everything was done by source music but she took the credit....these things the girls know but thought it's not that much important to let people know it's not min hee jin who was behind these things. It's the same as bang si hyuk asking min hee jin to say Lesserafin is her first girl group she has worked on and she revealed it....lesserafim girls know that they are not min heejins groomed group but they were okay to portray it that way as bang was not confident......everything is fine when it's her but if it's another person who does the same as her then it's a crime in her eyes.
What it means is that Min Hee Jin now can not prosecute her original plan of leaving Hybe with New Jeans without proving herself to be guilty, which she is, I believe. Given that this whole saga started because of this, she has actually not won, just prolonged her legal battle, which ultimately favours Hybe as it now becomes the battle of whose pocket is deeper.
Exactly this! By being too loud and proud, she's actually ended up biting her own tail and backing herself into a corner. HYBE is pretty much the only place she can continue her career now and they are going to do everything in their power to get rid of her!
@TheHaniverse omg, finally somebody who understands that the injunction was not bad or a failure at all! I do not understand how even Armys, with a decade of experience, don't understand how they operate and how smart they are. They'll easily let everybody yap and do the right thing behind closed doors. And when their moves become public, everybody is 🤯. 'We should have trusted them.' Then the next issue arises, and the same thing happens again... Like, can we learn, please? There's blind trust (unreasonable), but there's also a proven track record (reasonable). I can't understand why their own fans are eager to gives them a hard time and demand this or that. Support them! Let them do their jobs! They are professionals.
I think staying in Hybe is the only choice she has in terms of a job. 😂 No one is going to hire her after this dumpster fire of her own making.
I really enjoyed your video, glad I came across it!
Absolutely, and she knows it, she practically made the cage herself 😂😂
Also thank you so much! I'm really glad to hear that ;v;
@@TheHaniverse I went through the timeline you created, I'm glad this exists! I found other information I would not have known otherwise. Thank you for that!
@VerucaS9lt I'm glad you found it useful! 🥹🙏🏾
I was surprised that the court thought hurting Hybe didn't hurt Ador. Obviously Hybe losing stock value hurts all of the labels. I agree that Hybe turned it into a win/win, i.e. thay couldn't lose, for them. I think there is a reason that their law firm is number 1.
The court didn't state about how MHJ hurt ADORE or HYBE as their stock price. HYBE asked for the right to fire MHJ regarding to the shareholder contract between HYBE and MHJ. When HYBE sold shares to MHJ, they signed the "slavery" contract that has some contractual clauses, and that is the only way that they could end MHJ contract before 2025.
@@BTSISMYHAPPYPLACE4VER That is about the criminal trail that MHJ&co will have with HYBE.
Yes, I did try to explain this in the video but it got rambly so I cut it out. In essence, I think it comes down to, she didn't actually 'do' anything as far as the court is concerned. She planned things in pain staking detail, but because the event where she met the investors (and many others who weren't investors), they can't say she's taken any affirmative actions. Also, her original plan was to blackmail HYBE into basically giving her ADOR, whilst securing investors to make up for the lost financial supports - in that essence, ADOR wouldn't be harmed if things went how she wanted them.
But yes, I agree they aren't the number 1 law firm for no reason, they definitely have a plan and they're essentially caging her in.
The swiftness with which Hybe moved after the ruling was telling. If Hybe had actually won the injunction and fired her, the money they would have had to pay her (per the contract) would have been a ridiculous amount, and not in anyone's best interests except for MHJ...and Hybe would have lost New Jeans. But, as others have stated, making her a lame duck within days of the ruling puts all the power back into Hybe's hands, and Hybe can now proceed with the criminal case against her while keeping her under their thumb. At first I thought that Hybe wasn't doing a good job at making their case for the injunction. But directly afterwards, I was like, "Oh! Brilliant feint, Hybe!" So now Hybe has MHJ, New Jeans, and Ador under their control, and I can't believe that Hybe's lawyers are so incompetent as to have placed all of their cards on the table for MHJ's lawyers to have access to. I personally think that Hybe sacrificed the injunction with higher goals in mind (ie: proving MHJ guilty and having to relinquish New Jeans/Ador to Hybe.) I also don't think that Hybe is super interested in what SK's netizens think about them as a company, so long as they can support and protect their artists.
Yes! I completely agree with you, especially the last part. Ive said it time and time again in private conversations but kpop companies dont need to care what the public or even the fans think of them, we arent here to support the company, we're here to support the idols. I honestly think there needs to be more separation between the idols and companies' images too
Just my opinion, I think the court was pointing out to Hybe that there are big flaws in their system. I think they were basically showing them that the contract they drew out for MHJ does not protect the parent company from any treachery she may commit.
They really were too generous with her! They not only set up a whole label for her, they gave her 20% share in it, as well as free reign. They gave her too much power, and did not do anything to protect themselves in case something goes awry. It's like the court was saying "there's a fatal flaw in your system, you gotta fix this mess if you wanna protect yourselves." It looks like tough love, and I can respect that.
My 1st suspension was that Hybe was aware that they would lose, but knew that they could control her later. I believed they just wanted to show the public through leaks strategically what they were actually dealing with. She would have gotten them had not someone inside reported. She had a iron clad contract, but I knew that corporate law would allow them to release the 2 directors due to they were not protected. They handled everything professionally, the public wasn’t aware of their actions. They can also add a Co CEO, which I think they will do in the future. Patience!!!
Yes! HYBE is definitely playing the long game and playing by the rules so no one will be able to criticise them in the end!
I was surprised but not after I read the ruling. I understood the logic of the judge. I would be surprise if Hybe has not made a lot of different contingency plans for a variety of different out comes though. Basically it's a lesson learned by Hybe, but like you, I think she is done for. It's just a matter of time. I just hope NJS doesn't suffer because MHJ is definitely going to be a thorn in Hybe's side. Like the current sticker situation happening now. They seemed to have a lost a little bit of support already. I expect Hybe to clean house at Ador now and fire a bunch of people who might have been in league with MHJ and replace them with people more inline with Hybe's way of thinking. All of which will take time. Hopefully by then the criminal cases will be decided one way or another.
I couldn't agree more, I see NJs as victims in this situation as much as any other artist who've been mentioned thus far, so I really hope they're protected from her now that HYBE are keeping an eye on MHJ.
Also, I'm not familiar with the sticker situation, could you explain what's happening? :O I might be misunderstanding or maybe I've missed something.
@TheHaniverse Aespa stickers were put all around the HYBE building. At first NJS were being accused of doing it. But now I just MHJ is taking the blame for it, but the damage is done to NJS
Oh my, that's very childish, but if anyone its likely aespa fans. Whatever the case, I think its too small to make a significant impact so dont worry about it too much
The question is did they finally get her laptop and does it even matter? Depending on the laws in S. Korea, often an employer can get into a company owned laptop remotely. I’ve been following the case closely and agree with you. I have heard that there will also be a co-CEO appointed in addition to replacing those two VPs with three Hybe employees. Time will tell.
Also, love your necklace! Isn’t it from the BTS Monochrome line?
I don't believe she did ever return the laptop, but you are right about the remote access. All the KakaoTalk messages they got and leaked were from their internal server because she logged in on her work laptop, and considering they're likely going to focus on the criminal cases, I don't think the laptop is useful anymore. Also yes, I've been hearing that too, I'm curious to see who they will appoint and how she will react moving forward; they're really closing in all the walls around her.
Also yes, incredible eye! 👀 It's the necklace and silver ring! Thank you for the compliment and for watching! 💜
Just wait, Hybe most likely will appoint a co-CEO... she will really be a paper CEO going forward.
I thought she would get the injunction but knew that Hibe could get rid of her other directors and eventually get her to resign from lack of power.
I honestly really doubt she will quit herself, she has nowhere to go now because her plan got messed up by being revealed earlier than she anticipated. No one in their right mind will work with her in Korea, because that's basically like making yourself a public enemy of HYBE. I also feel like HYBE already gave her the chance to resign and she refused, so now they are going to go after her, no mercy.
I was totally chocked. But after that i saw it like you that hybe has a bigger plan.
Yes! Honestly my gut dropped at first, but the more I thought about it, the more it made sense!
I think BSH is a smart business man....
Esta reconocido con un coeficiente muy alto igual que RM. Antes de iniciar su propia compañía se dedicaba a componer música. Dicen que todo lo que hacía triunfaba por eso lo apodaron Hitman. Al hacer equipo con BTS lograron magníficos resultados. También es humano y erro con Mhj, pero lo va a arreglar. Se me hace injusto la cantidad de insultos que recibe. Lo bueno es que Bts es fiel a BangPD.
I think he's a great producer but I'm not sure about business man, he's made a few blunders but I believe his heart has always been in the right place, unfortunately he met people who knew how to take advantage of him.
@@margaritamunoz4886 I totally agree with you! He has always been music focused and never planned for BigHit to become this massive corporation, that's why he handed over the CEO position. He's made a few mistakes, but he's a human and not really a business man, so I'm sure this has been a learning experience for him.
@@margaritamunoz4886 Bravo well said.
@@TheHaniverse He's a visionary.
ahhh I've been waiting for another vid of yours on this topic, I rlly enjoyed the last one
Thank you so much 😭💜 I'm really glad to here that!
I just want to say that I totally agree with you on Min Hee Jin’s character. She is the classic narcissist and did not hold back on involving the young girls of New Jeans. It’s sad that their parents could not see this, but there are always blind followers to narcissists. I am hoping that you are correct that Hybe has a master plan, but I want her exposed for all to see who she really is. She is destructive, but will always see herself as the victim -and because of that, she will continue to do whatever she wants.
For me, that's genuinely the thing I find most frustrating, the fact that at the end of all of this, she will truly believe she is the victim and that she did nothing wrong. It's wild to me that people can fall for their own delusions to that extent but oh well
I agree with your thoughts
I'm glad you enjoyed the video, thank you for commenting
original reaction: I thought the injunction ruling was just a short break for her since a bigger case is still underway. More is coming out about her "creative process (copying) every day
post video update: I agree that, in the end, she really didn't win much. She probably seen as a pariah at the HYBE building so I doubt she leaves the 16th floor. Who would want to be seen talking to her, her days there are numbered. She mentioned she told NJ members they shouldn't renew their contracts when they expire so her "leave ADOR an empty shell" can still be in work. I do feel sorry for NJ members, of course they are showing loyalty to the CEO they know but when I look at them it is with pity that they are so under her spell. I think NJs will succeed without MHJ
NJ are all young and impressionable. They may have been so imprinted onto MHJ that they can’t be retrained or corrected in their way of thinking to actually be able to work for anyone else. They may have to just wait til contracts expire then regroup under what ever label she creates in the future. But they will all be older then and may be out of their charms by then
Thank you for participating in the challenge! And I see where you're coming from with the 'don't renew your contracts' thing, but I think the thing is, it will be a while before it gets to that point and HYEB will have time to undo her mental conditioning, so there's still hope. Also, no one thing I've noticed is how unite the parents of NJs have been throughout this too, if there came a situation where some members wanted to leave HYBE and others stay, I think they'd pick staying together as a group in HYBE than risking breaking up. Not to mention it would be hard for MHJ to start a new company with all her investors pulling out and the massive fines she will likely have to pay for all she's done. I won't say it's impossible, but it would be extremely risky (and unlikely) for NJs to want to follow her at that point.
@@elaineOiwish oooh very valid point about not being able to correct their thinking. I hope it isn't to that degree but it's definitely a possibility :ccc
@@TheHaniverse A leopard can not change it's spots.
I personally wanted HYBE to win, because of the bad perception about Bang Pd and HYBE that people had after MHJ press conference.
Both press conferences represented the art of manipulation that is representing her true gift and artistry.
MHJ first appearance as a homeless woman who didn't have the time to make a shower and the to brush her hair, because of the evil men bosses that she has, created a bad impression about Bang Pd and HYBE.
After that HYBE must've regrouped and must've changed the strategies.
It is right thst they liked some messages or MHJ comments about people and artists around HYBE, but they definitely not expected MHJ to be so good at manipulation public opinion.
After 17th of May, I knew that HYBE will not present any evidence that they want to be exposed in the criminal trail against MHJ&co. It wasn't in their interest that MHJ lawyers to find out about that, and prepare in advance for the trial. Because, if the Dunamu official went to HYBE, to tell about MHJ approach, it would be for sure that, that person gave a writeen statement about the meeting. Even MHJ's lawyers said, that HYBE is inventing about that, and she met with some acquaintances of an acquaintance, because they didn't give any evidence.
So, I believe that HYBE didn't fight hard in the injunction trial. HYBE gave to the court enough evidence to make the judge to rule in the way he did, and also to state in HYBE favour when it was about:
-MHJ plan against HYBE,
-MHJ betraying HYBE,
-MHJ trying to get more money for her put option (that means that she can sell back to HYBE a package of her shares at a certain price, share value ×13), MHJ wanted to raise to 30 times,
-MHJ wanted to get HYBE approval in her shareholder contract, to be the only one that can terminate NJ girls contracts and to make ADORE a empty shell as she planed with her Vp in 1945 file.
HYBE won in the injunction trial a written document from a judgement court, about some of the illegal things that MHJ&co did against HYBE. That's means, HYBE don't have to prove with more evidences if they don't want.
Also, I think that HYBE knew from the beginning that MHJ can be cut off from the CEO duties in different ways. They asked MHJ to resign from her position, already knowing that she will not give up ADORE.
The replacement of 2 directors with 3, that can cover most of the CEO duties and putting a co-CEO on ADORE, not only will undermine MHJ authority in ADORE, it will keep MHJ away from NJ girls, and in the end, will completely cut her off. For sure that will make MHJ to go mad, and I think she will be in the spotlight as she likes, and she will cry again in front of the cameras, because the evil HYBE doesn't wants to cooperate with, her for the good sake of New Jeans.
before video - I was suprised, bc I thought they give a lot of reasons so she wouldn't get injunction especially with how much they own of company, if she had normal cotract they could literally dismiss her without reasons simply bc... but she really had contract that protected her and she played with lines here, but my after first "really?" thought and reading this stupid explanation that by law made sens but by normal eye was bulls*it, and what I mean that judge literally said that he see what she was planing, etc., it looks bad, but at this moment she didn't really did anything agnist her contract... yes I understand it but it is ehh... So next thoughts was "ok she has to stay for some time, temporary injuction, is a temporary mechanism... also she can stay but not her team. I also remember that Hybe did also started criminal case agnist her, so yeah... they can't really harass her obviously but they for sure put her on leash and also they will look at her hands and moves like 300x times more closely. I knew they had person prepared for Ador so I knew they still will put this person there, they also side before that Ador was only one company under hybe that had differnet system and they want to put this two person system there too, so I knew they will make moves in this way. I personally think that after NJ stops promoting things they have planed already should go on break for whatever reason. but they should have pause. after hearing what she said in conference after and interviews in my mind only was "there is no saving for this women", I knew she wpuld stand bby her actions decisions and opinions but she literally drip in narcism... I was wondering what is her plan bc she really things she will play hybe and "win" in the end.
now lets see video..
So after watching video.... sorry but you really didn't say anything I didn't know, and didn't change my thinking in any way... hmm I only say I don't know if this was the plan, but I think they were preparing for this situation.
That's totally fair, just means you're well informed and have a critical eye! Thank you for commenting and sharing your thoughts though
@@TheHaniverse i simply think nowdays people really give up of knowlage, it may seems harash but we have so many ways to check things out, to search for info, do some deep dives or even simply look up facts not opinions... But people really let go of this, they listen to loudest voice or to this that have biggest tears and sometimes take silence as guilt or confession. And of course there are people that say truth in that way, but more often people make decisions on one opinion or even worst on one headline, don't even read what is writen, not to say some things are wrote in a way that you have to read 3 times to get bc it is made especially hard bc they want to be vouge...
But going back to this case, I honestly don't have opinion on Hybe, i know ot is company and company exist to do buissnes and earn money do I don't have some delelu view thatthey are good or bad they are what they are suposted to be machine to help and to get, but I also think they are quiet fair with their subcompanies, that is way I was a little shocked how much she got and taked and talked them into with her contract and freedom... But the moment they saw it goes too far all hit the fan.
I agree with you she is good at her job, like her job was branding and branding herself as victime was great performance, now she wants to look like sweet and open minded person that is bigger person wich is stupid but looks good in media in a way, but no normal person would trust her, when she is like bag on the wind...not to say how people can think it lookngood when at first conference she was cursing company, people working there, groups under them, and now she call it "I was little emotional but let it go to the past"? How someone can see this two things and say yeah she is right 🤦🏻♀️
I honestly don't know how it is around the world but I had in collage clasees about manipulation to see it and use it, it sounds worse then it is bc my classes was in context of talking to big groups, to get attention, to be heard, but we also talked about different ways bc as long you know something exist you can see it happend and he ready, and she literally took book and checked all what was needed to be done to be on top... Eh
She never answers question that reporters ask but talks about whatever she wants, i'm quiet angry and I only see it from far, If I would be person that have to sit there listen to it, and I did my research and knew all info that come out I would feld so disrespected by her.
I remember now that you said at the end of video that parents have now their own legal team, I didn't hear about it?
I completely agree with you, its frustrating people don't see through her act, but it's also understandable that people are confused because she always beats aroud the bush and dodges questions to cause confusion.
Regarding the parents, as far as I can tell it's a rumor at this point, that's why I say they may bmhave gotten their own lawyers. Unfortunately I'm not 100% sure myself
the key statement on breach of trust is it should be against Ador. since Hybe mostly presented ill-doings of MNJ to Hybe, it was not the point of the injunction case. So now MHJ will be facing her real battle for the betrayal against Hybe. Perhaps she has done worse things that's why the laptop is not being returned.
At first I was very upset she won. Then I saw that it just keeps her chained-preventing her from continuing her sabotage-like she deserves. I also agree that HYBE emphasized the wrong details. They shouldn’t have said NJ would go on a long hiatus and that they can manage NJ without her. I like your theory that HYBE wanted this to happen! And so true! She was free, with all the money and perks and now she’s lost her freedom and no more new perks for her I’m sure. And I’m loving the karma!
But HYBE did NOT say NJ's would go on along hiatus. They simply said it would take at least a year to find them and Grammy nominated/winner Producer that doesn't mean they'll do nothing with them while they are sourcing this Grammy Producer. They already have a Producer they can continue working with while they wait for the 'Grammy Producer'.
oooh 'karma' is the perfect word for this! It really is just that - I can't imagine having all that given to me and fumbling so badly because I got greedy 💀
I am thinking. Could mhj have planned with the other vp that they would get fired so they can go and collect investors while she is being watched? Because now that they are fired i dont think ot is allowed for hybe to follow them. She oviously talk to them still or else they would have helped hybe or go online to witness against her
WOW! VERY interesting theory! I wouldn't rule it out, but I also think finding investors would be hard. I think people who work in this industry are seeing right through MHJ, especially as they likely have experience with various companies (including HYBE) and may be able to verify much more than the public. Siding with her now would also make you public enemy of HYBE, which just doesn't seem like a good look, that's exactly why one of her potential investors ran to tell HYBE before there was a conflict of interests. Also, I think it's important to remember that as VPs, they won't have as much financial power and social influence as her. MHJ was able to win sympathy as a female CEO with a long history in Kpop, but these guys are just regular dudes to the public - I feel like staying quiet is more for their own protection, especially because I doubt MHJ would do much to protect them...
@@TheHaniverse no she will not and if she has to she'll push them 'under the Bus' (betray them) to try to wiggle out of her problems.
NJ said, that Ador and HYBE are the same, but there is a precedent, that Ador is an independent entity.
My reaction when I saw her first interview:
This is the most narcissistic, manipulative woman I have ever seen and I see right through the crocodile tears. It was so obvious to me that I thought EVERYONE would agree with me. 😂
Before watching your video:
I was appalled! I couldn’t believe or understand how the judge seemed to bend over backwards to find a way to grant the injunction, BUT I just saw it as temporary win. I never thought it was over. To me it was like winning a battle, but maybe (hopefully) not the war.
I was upset that Min Jee Jin managed not to get fired :(
For now! I wouldn't worry too much if I was you~
Technically I think they removed the BoD, likely also the VP's, but those were always different people fyi.
Yes, I mentioned this in the video, they replaced her 2 guys with 3 others!
☕🍩Excellent Synopsis!☕🍩To Note: Hybe doesn't like to lose!☕They didn't want to lose!☕
🍩☕However, I do agree that it was [conceived 2-3 yrs prior]!☕The Key is the [Shaman]Character!
☕🍩Just take a look at who financed the [Shaman]Character!🍩☕The Scheme was seeded!☕
My opinion before watching the video, is I think the injunction verdict was bad for hybe but hybe still has the upperhand. Mhj is going broke. She said in the second conference she used up all her hybe money on lawyer fees. Hybe can keep trying to fire her and with each injunction mhj will file she'll go into debt. They can make her want to quit too on a more personal level. Like forcing her to work with belift etc
Do you really believe she's used up all her money she had from HYBE I don't. She's lies all the time when it suits her purpose. She's a multi millionaire she had money before entering HYBE from all those years working at SM and she's the highest paid CEO at HYBE.
The idea of HYBE forcing her to work with BELIFT actually made be burst out laughing - that would be too good! They're already forcing her to work with another woman (one of the 3 VPs) which we know she wouldn't be happy about from her KKT messages, so I wouldn't put it past them! Making ILLIT and NJs collab could also be a great way to rub salt in the wound too.
Also I didn't know about the going broke comment (as I haven't watched her second conference yet), but I expected as much. There is no way she'd be able to maintain a long relationship with the firm she's using out of her own pocket and they'll definitely cut her off once she stops paying and it becomes a clearly losing battle for them too.
@@TheHaniverse No poor ILLIT and BELIFT that's not fair on them. They shouldn't be saddled with having to 'put up' with Ms Min or NJ's right now, that's just too cruel to ILLIT and BELIFT.
My initial reaction was disappointment but not surprised really. This really just gives Hybe more time to gain more information and receipts for that info. It really opened the true ARMYs eyes to how she appreciates their support for NJ. I say ‘true ARMY’ bc I don’t think the funeral wreaths were from them. ARMY wouldn’t waste that much money for a pointless NEGATIVE stunt IMO. The guys are still shareholders in Hybe so was against them as well in some respects. I want to know who was behind those in the name of ARMY.sounds like an AH stunt.
My other question is how does the new ruling by the gov regarding underaged idols and such affect NJ? There is a limit to how many hrs of work and training even a 15 yr old can do. The youngest member just turned 15. I would think that would make it harder to do a world tour and still comply.
The ruling reopened the door for the Hybe criminal complaint, as the ruling stated Hybe cannot investigate any alleged criminality they think she engaged in!!!!!! Time to turn in her laptop and cell phone to the police!!!! 😅😂🤣 She's toast!!!!
They found out that, before the funeral wreaths appeared in front of HYBE building, some twitter accounts were made and asked for money, or get money to "fight" against BSH and HYBE. They get very quickly money, if I remember correctly it was in first day more than 15 thousand dollars, maybe I am wrong but it was a big amount of Korean money in a very short time. It was like MHJ supporters waited for someone to open a twitter account, and then they can open their wallets. What is more interesting it's that the accounts were closed after the protest campaign of NJ fans and "Army" against HYBE.
Question: why can't the police take her laptop as part of a criminal case????????
@@Laralara-b6d Because in many cases, like the media, the police are motivated by public opinion!!!! They move like molasses!!!! They requested it back in May, but when MHJ filed the injunction, the police didn't want to appear like bullies doing Hybe's dirty work.
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I suppose that they will ask when the police will interrogate her. But I think, that MHJ can say that she lost it, or even is destroyed, because of something, but that is tricky because she can be accused of destroying evidences.
I personally think that MHJ was told to destroy the laptop, to prevent recovery of files from it.
MHJ is now a CEO on paper only she is on tight leash
Yup! HYBE is going to keep a close eye on her and if she trips up, it'll be gameover.
She doesn't want to harm ADOR however, she is employed by HYBE: the ruling was made to show that it doesn't matter who you are, a person who is smaller than you can win a case against you. However, the court also gave the bigger person a chance, if you want to really fire her, make a payout of $14m, it would be over their d3d body to pay her to leave. Hybe didn't throw the case away, they thought that they would win . If they had made the necessary steps to show that they have someone in place. That has given them a lessson. You have to be detailed and focussed on one thing.
The wins here for hybe are that Mhj did another press conference which showed people that actually she is more calculative than they initially thought. Her name has been more tarnished than hybe's. Why I say so is that many people won't want to work with her, she probably will have to make her own business. Yes she will still have connections however, they too will be wary of her. Including her best friends. She showed that she didn't care about the VPs - look at how she answered the text, that I have no clue why these guys were bending over for someone who wasn't giving you much to go with. Now they lost their jobs, who is going to employ them easily.
Another win, regardless of the girls still thanking her plus their parents; none of them trust her as they did before. No one speaks ill about your child and you still have those meet ups frequently.
Hybe have learnt a huge lesson from this, all contracts in Hybe are going to be switched up, not just for CEOs, for every employee in Hybe. It maybe take longer to look at all of them however, they will do so.
Another win, like you said, regardless of whether she wins or not including the defamation case, her working relationships with all the people at hybe have gone cold. She can no longer walk into hybe with confidence. Everyone is going to keep it professional. Btw, I hope she never works with members again( and just like op, I don't like hybe however, I know that mhj crossed the line). I don't understand how these people couldn't read her. Mhj claimed plagiarism for njs but failed to claim plagiarism when anotther artist released a project very similar to what she had worked on for Hybe - so to me all her claims are baseless. It is similar to how she uses her dressing to win public support.
- The day of her leaving will come, however, with Kpop you can never know how things pan out. If she was anywhere in the West, her refusal to attend the meeting would have suspended her with immediate effect, and refusal of handing over the laptop, it would have meant dismissal.
MHJ won the injunction, but presented in to the whole world as if it had won the battle!!!!!!😂😂😂
I hope hybe chooses #1 bc I think it's the fastest. I don't want mhj cashing in her shares 😡 this year. Hybe should hire a co-ceo for ador n let the public see new jeans is fine without mhj
I totally agree, I would hate to see her walk out of this with any cash in hand, but I do think #3 could potentially be resolved before Nov this year (the earliest she can cash out and quit), and if all goes to plan, we might see her walk out in handcuffs instead (not literally, but yeah! 😂)
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How they love to kiss HYBE's ass.
You can't honestly be this dense 😅 not only did I say that I'm not pro-hybe in this video, but you have to release the irony of your comment too..
@@TheHaniverse Yeah. You're saying that losing the injuction is part of HYBE's grand plan, it's obvious who your master is. The only positive thing is that you are clear that everything is a setup by HYBE to fire MHJ looking for any excuse.
Min Heejin nikoli ne bo zmagala.
waiting for your new video
Facts
She is a lame duck CEO 😂😂 I told the MHJ supporters don't take a victory lap just yet because she is for the fight of her lifetime. HYBE has gone full petty mode on MHJ and she won't make it until 2026 when her contract expires.
She's playing pathos, catering to the court of public opinion.
The only reason why she won d injunction is because of her contract.
if u think mhj is an evil genius, are her tears that she shed from her 1st conference real? i think it cud easily fill a cup...
I can literally start sobbing if I think of something sad enough - if I then say I'm crying for something different to what I'm thinking about, are my tears real or not? Crying doesn't automatically make someone honest
@@TheHaniverse Wow.. if that is the case then i think she ought to be an actress instead of ceo for gg. She will win all the accolades n money that she wants. Btw are you based in Seoul and worked for the kpop industry. I came across one juz now. I am trying to get to the truth of the matter and your channel came up in my search list.
@altsen9239 hey dear, yes I live in Seoul, and I worked in the industry until last year Feb (I worked for 2 years in the marketing side for md, contents, fan events, award shows etc and have met a few idols while working), I'm currently on a break from the industry but hope to return by the end of this year :3
If you want a clear breakdown, I recommend my blog post linked in my bio. I clearly indicated what is facts and what is accusations from.each side, so it should be helpful for you to determine your own opinion without bias
She doesn't yet realize her goose is cooked, sorry, not sorry.😂
She need to know u sale your soul to devil he come for her soul ..and her kids as she said
Please get a new microphone!
Oh, is there something wrong with the audio? :O I was recording directly into my camera mic >
EVIL DEEDS WILL NEVER SUCCEED!!! THERE WILL ALWAYS BE A BAD KARMA.
I only deal in facts. Not conjecture. Not opinion.
Totally fair, but the reality is the facts will never be fully available to us, so to some degree we need to use logic and reasoning to fill the gaps. I did state throughout the video that this is just what I think, but the writing seems pretty on the wall to me.
Based on the facts I predicted what would happened and the only thing I got wrong was the number of people HYBE would install in ADOR. I predicted they'd remove her 2 main people which they did but didn't think they might add a 3rd person. I worked out from the Judge's summing up that HYBE would continue with the Criminal case which is now lodged with the Police. So when working on facts it's far easier to work out what was coming next and I did just that. I used my brain.
@@eileencritchley4630 Good on you. It’s a can of spaghetti sorting through all this fake news as facts and hater’s drivel. The only wild card is Korean Judicial system and labyrinth of corruption. But, well done you.
@@TheHaniverse True. It’s a mission alright, especially in South Korea.
@@MoonstoneStarChaser what are your thoughts now?
BSH is the architect of BTS. That kind of project is only done by a genius. I watched BSH speak and propose a new take on the Kpop industry. That was a genius plan but will need an open minded person.I saw this at the start because it doesn't add up. There must be more to this than MHJ. It is much , much more. And it will shock the Korean industry when everything comes to light. It is not for us to say but let us watch!
But her victory was temporary 😂 she now got a leash on her neck .. Minji and NJ .. am laughing that con artist is sociopath
MHJ won😊. You can't even understand korean words. Court don't lie😂😂😂. With all your opinions in court, they lost😂😂. Are you lawyer or judge?
When did I ever say she didn't win? 😅 maybe you're the one who doesn't understand Korean or English. She got a temporary injunction and is still being sued by Belift. My 'opinions' are about the future, not the current case, and I literally explained why she was able to win this case
It's okay not to have an opinion if you can't understand 🙂
Mhj out🤨🤨
yess she won by getting kicked out
@@수근전-q5z ㅋㅋ긁??